(BONUS) What is the Xerf Facelift?

Summary

Podcast Summary: (BONUS) What is the Xerf Facelift?

Podcast: Bill & Giuliana: The Podcast
Host: iHeartPodcasts
Date: June 12, 2026
Guests: Nurse Jamie (Aesthetics Nurse Specialist of the Stars)

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Episode Overview

In this lively bonus episode, Bill and Giuliana welcome back celebrity favorite Nurse Jamie to dive into one of the hottest beauty trends sparking curiosity across the internet: the “Zerf Facelift.” Inspired by the buzz generated from Kim Kardashian’s social post, they break down exactly what the Zerf is, why everyone’s talking about it, how it works, and who it’s for. The trio keeps things candid and packed with expertise—taking listeners from the world of over-filled “pillow face” looks to the future of natural, collagen-boosted skin.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing Nurse Jamie and the Zerf Facelift

• [03:03] Juliana: Sets the stage for the episode and introduces Nurse Jamie as an aesthetic expert well-versed in celebrity skincare.
• [03:45] Bill: “And a friend, of course. And she is a guru when it comes to beauty. Okay. Lasers, Botox, all of it.”
• The group frames the episode around the hype from Kim Kardashian’s post about Zerf, noting its exclusivity and origins in South Korea and the K-beauty space.

2. What Even Is the “Zerf Facelift”?

• [04:28] Juliana: “So it’s about creating your own collagen.”
• Nurse Jamie explains:
  • The Zerf uses radio frequency to stimulate the body’s own collagen production (as opposed to injecting fillers).
  • It's designed to avoid the “pillow face” (over-injected, puffy look) and focus on more natural rejuvenation.
  • [05:18] Nurse Jamie: “...it goes to the level of SMAS, so it goes deeper, but it's radio frequency... it makes your collagen fibers thicken the overlying skin. And here's firmer... It's your collagen, instead of injecting it, like filler.”
• The system is high-end and rare—only about 15 machines in the U.S.

3. Benefits: No Downtime, No Pain, No “Pillow Face”

• Zerf is promoted as:
  • Minimal to no pain during the procedure, thanks to an innovative cooling mechanism.
  • No burning of facial fat, unlike some other treatments.
  • No downtime, and results are said to appear immediately, with full effects over two months.
• [06:15] Nurse Jamie: “Yeah, with no downtime. Yes, exactly.”
• [06:18] Juliana: “And no pain. This is like a dream for people.”

4. Procedure Experience — For Women AND Men

• Bill jokes about trying the Zerf live, hoping for help with his “gobbler” (loose skin under his chin), prompting laughs.
• [06:52] Bill: “I wanna get rid of my gobbler.”
  • Nurse Jamie teases him: “You don't have a gobbler.”
  • The conversation highlights that non-surgical skin tightening is increasingly popular with both women and men.
• Bill is known for sending his male friends to Nurse Jamie for similar treatments.

5. Results Timeline, Frequency, and Cost

• Immediate results are typical, but best seen at the two-month mark.
• Frequency:
  • Regular Caucasian skin: about three times per year.
  • May vary by skin type; Nurse Jamie notes Italian skin may require less frequent sessions than her own (Irish/English).
• Costs:
  • Face: ~$2,500 per session.
  • Face & neck: ~$3,000 per session.
• [08:22] Bill (humor): “So, just to break even, she’s gotta do 150 of these...”

6. Is Zerf a Facelift Alternative? Filler Anxiety & Sensitive Faces

• Juliana asks if Zerf is a real alternative to facelift surgery.
  • Nurse Jamie recommends trying Zerf and similar middle-ground options before “jumping” into surgery, especially for people who haven’t been using other anti-aging treatments over the years.
• They share stories about reactions to fillers and acknowledge that not everyone tolerates filler or wants the look.
• [10:03] Juliana: “So this is a good alternative to filler, right?”

7. How to Access Zerf & Nurse Jamie’s Approach

• Demand is high—her clinic is extremely busy, and the Zerf is currently her most-booked treatment.
• Nurse Jamie’s “Beauty Ranch” in Brentwood, California, has the largest range of lasers in LA.
• [11:03] Nurse Jamie: “It is like a cheesecake factory of lasers... there's so many, it's kind of overwhelming.”
• She takes a consultative approach, matching each client with the right device or treatment: “She's like an artist...”
• For more info or appointments: nursejamie.com

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Juliana [04:51]: “The reason we’re doing a little specific bonus episode on just the Zerf is because Kim Kardashian did a post, and it blew up. Thank you, Kim! Very pricey, amazing machine.”
• Bill [06:52]: “I wanna get rid of my gobbler.”
• Nurse Jamie [05:18]: “It's your collagen, instead of injecting it, like filler.”
• Juliana [10:03]: “All jokes aside, there are a lot of people can’t do filler... their face is reactive, and, like, they get, like—you know, it’s not for them. So this is a good alternative...”
• Nurse Jamie [11:03]: “It is like a cheesecake factory of lasers... there’s so many, it’s kind of overwhelming.”

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:03 | Introduction of Nurse Jamie and setup of episode | | 04:28 | What the Zerf Facelift is and how it works | | 05:36 | Why celebrities & social media are obsessed with Zerf | | 06:15 | Benefits (no pain, no downtime, natural results) | | 06:52 | Bill jokes about his “gobbler” and live treatment idea | | 07:32 | How soon results show, how often needed, price per session | | 09:11 | Is Zerf a real facelift alternative? Filler fears and sensitivities | | 10:26 | How to get an appointment; Nurse Jamie’s expertise & approach | | 11:03 | Variety at Nurse Jamie’s Beauty Ranch, consultative process | | 11:22 | Plans to show the process on social media |

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Closing Thoughts

Bill and Giuliana’s bonus episode on the Zerf Facelift unpacks everything curious listeners want to know about this buzzy, exclusive treatment. Nurse Jamie demystifies the process and benefits, contrasts Zerf with fillers and surgical options, and delivers actionable advice for anyone considering a less invasive facial rejuvenation. The chemistry and humor between the hosts and guest make information accessible, honest, and entertaining, while pointing to Nurse Jamie as one of the very few U.S. experts in this next-gen space.

Follow their socials to see Bill’s Zerf experience in action!

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For consultations or more information:
nursejamie.com
Nurse Jamie’s Beauty Ranch, Brentwood, CA

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[Bill]

Welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast.

[Juliana]

Hey, guys. Welcome to the podcast. Nurse Jamie is back with us.

[Bill]

You're very anchory. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the podcast.

[Juliana]

Was it too much? Was it too much?

[Nurse Jamie]

I loved it.

[Juliana]

Let me start over. Okay, ready? Let me start up.

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[Juliana]

What's up, guys? Welcome to the podcast. Oh, my God. Okay.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah.

[Juliana]

So welcome to the podcast, Bill. I can't change me. I am me. Love me or you do. You love me or leave me. All right, Jamie, Nurse Jamie's back with us. You guys know Nurse Jamie. She is like the esthetician to the stars.

[Bill]

And she was more than that, though, I feel like.

[Juliana]

What's your. What's your actual title?

[Nurse Jamie]

I'm an aesthetics nurse specialist, but.

[Juliana]

Okay, great.

[Nurse Jamie]

Well, you just call me whatever you

[Juliana]

want to call me. She's an aesthetics nurse specialist of the stars.

[Bill]

And a friend.

[Juliana]

And a friend, of course. And she is a guru when it comes to beauty. Okay. Lasers, Botox, all of it. So Nurse Jamie, we were talking about just kind of like skincare and wellness and beauty in general. And then we wanted to hone in on the ZURF facelift. It's called the Zerf facelift, but it's not like a surgery facelift. It's a machine.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yes, tell us. That's what I was telling you. The trend, the collagen banking, like making your own collagen. I think everyone is just kind of going away from the pillow phase. Like less injectables. That's why guys, like, it's.

[Juliana]

Would you say pillow face?

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, pillow face. Like over injected? Yeah. Too puffy.

[Juliana]

So. So it's about creating your own collagen.

[Nurse Jamie]

Your own collagen.

[Juliana]

And is that what the Zerf does? Because everyone is buzzing about the zurf.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, it is super popular. Thank goodness for this machine right now.

[Juliana]

So here's the deal. The reason we're doing a little specific Bonus episode on Just the Zerf is because Kim Kardashian did a post, and it blew up. Thank you, Kim. Like, very pricey, amazing machine. It's the hottest thing in skincare.

[Bill]

The price of a Ferrari.

[Juliana]

Let's just say that it is. It really dudes out there, out of South Korea. It is all about, like, the Korean K beauty.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yes.

[Juliana]

And this is, like, this crazy machine that everyone's buzzing about right now and celebrities are doing. And so nurse Jamie has the machine.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yes.

[Juliana]

Because not a lot of people have this machine in the United states.

[Nurse Jamie]

There's about 15.

[Juliana]

Wow.

[Bill]

Wow.

[Juliana]

So we're going to talk about this machine. So first of all, you said kind of what it is. So it creates collagen. And so what is it for?

[Nurse Jamie]

So the interesting thing about this, and it goes to the level of SMAs, so it goes deeper, but it's radio frequency, so it's kind of like makes your collagen fibers thicken the overlying skin. And here's firmer.

[Juliana]

Okay.

[Nurse Jamie]

So you are banking that collagen. It's your collagen, instead of adding it, injecting it, like filler. Yeah. So the nice thing is because it has this cool cooling mechanism, it's not painful.

[Bill]

Wow.

[Nurse Jamie]

I didn't think it was painful. Right. Yeah. I mean, every once in a while, you might feel a little, like, zing. But you don't have to worry about burning the fat because of that burst of. You hear. If you could hear that little. So that's the cryogen, which is good.

[Juliana]

We don't want to burn fat. We are hearing some like.

[Bill]

Yeah, except in my belly.

[Juliana]

Okay, exactly. So we're hearing a little bit of, like, things that people used to do. Oh, is it taking too much fat out of your face? People don't want to do them anymore. So this doesn't do that. And it helps to tighten. Right. So the idea is it's like a facelift, but in a machine.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah. With no downtime. Yes, exactly.

[Juliana]

And no pain.

[Bill]

Right.

[Juliana]

This is like a dream for people.

[American Medical Association Representative]

Okay.

[Juliana]

So basically, this is what people are doing now to get snap. Like, get their faces snatched, their jaws snatched.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, that's what I said you should try. They've, you know, they. They've definitely come up with some things. I haven't seen you forever, so. Yeah, I think you'd like it because I know you never, you know, you didn't like filler. It never really works. So I think this is a great alternative.

[Juliana]

Okay. So, Bill, are you gonna.

[Bill]

I'm gonna do this Right. It's okay for men to do. I'm gonna do it right now.

[Juliana]

Yeah. So Bill's gonna do it live.

[Bill]

I wanna get rid of my gobbler.

[Nurse Jamie]

Kenny, don't have a gobbler.

[Bill]

I have a little gobbler under my chin.

[Juliana]

He always says.

[Nurse Jamie]

He doesn't, though. He doesn't.

[Juliana]

He always talks about this gobbler. Zerf, help with gobblers.

[Nurse Jamie]

It's so funny because Bill does some laser stuff with me from time to time and he sends his guy friends in and they always come in and say, make whatever you're doing to Bill do to me. So isn't that nice?

[Bill]

Yeah. About.

[Juliana]

You're like the male Kim Kardashian influencer. Like, everything she does, we all want to do.

[Bill]

I have a following of five, so really impressive.

[Juliana]

Right. And how long will I see results for? How often do I have to do it?

[Nurse Jamie]

You see results right away. You see the full result in, like two months afterwards.

[Juliana]

Okay.

[Nurse Jamie]

But yeah, again, the protocol is recommended. It's like a Korean machine. And my personal philosophy is instead of doing it twice a year, I feel like it's like certain skin types and even Italian, your fibroblasts are thicker than, say, mine. Mine like Irish, English, but I feel like regular Caucasian skin is more like three times a year.

[Juliana]

So 15 people have this machine in the United States. Around 15. How much does it cost and how do you sell it? Like, how do people sell it? Is it per session?

[Nurse Jamie]

It is per session.

[Juliana]

2500 for your face, 2,500 for your face.

[Nurse Jamie]

And then I think face and neck is like close to 3,000.

[Juliana]

Yeah, face and neck is three.

[Bill]

So you've got it. I mean, just to break even, she's got a do 150 of these. Just to even break even on this.

[Juliana]

That was fast math. How did you do that?

[Nurse Jamie]

That was really good.

[Bill]

And I would think since there's only 15 in the country, you could almost set your own price. No, I mean, if this is like the hottest thing in the world right now.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Bill]

But you're fair. You want to have people. You're playing the long game.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, we do. Yeah, we. It's been very busy. That's why I was glad we could even bring it. Because even when I have one guy that I do house calls for and my office manager just doesn't understand when he says, you know, jump, I have to say, you know, how high? So. But it is very popular. So to even get it, I'd say it's our most Book treatment right now.

[Bill]

Wow. The surf.

[Juliana]

So I've been talking a lot about getting, like, a facelift. So is this a good alternative if I don't want to go under the knot?

[Nurse Jamie]

You can't go from not doing anything for 10 years and then straight into a surgery. I think I would try, like, the middle ground first would be my. Would maybe be my suggest, because Jamie

[Juliana]

and I always talk about how I don't do any. Like, I need to do more. I don't do anything.

[Bill]

I don't think you do.

[Juliana]

One time I tried one little, like, drop of filler a hundred years ago, and I felt like I didn't like it, and so we removed it. Well, I thought I was gonna, like, react my stuff. Well, you had. Yeah, I remember what you remember this.

[Bill]

I do remember this. We were together, and it looked like you had a. Something.

[Juliana]

We growing.

[Bill]

Well, we called it a funny name on your.

[Juliana]

Anyway, we. But my point is, my I. My face is very reactive. And so that's actually another thing to know. All jokes aside, there are a lot of people can't do filler.

[Nurse Jamie]

Right.

[Juliana]

Right. Because their face is reactive, and, like, they get, like, you know, they just. It's not for them. So this is a good alternative to filler, right? Yeah.

[Nurse Jamie]

Like, again, like. Because it's kind of like the. I guess if you're putting a. Like a chicken into the microwave, it becomes more succinct. So you're causing those collagen fibers to thicken, but it's not breaking down the fat. So.

[Bill]

Okay, so if you want to learn more about the zerf, go to nursejamie.com, you can make your appointment there. Yes, you can consult with Nurse Jamie if you can get in. She's very, very busy. But it's true.

[Juliana]

Please, good luck.

[Bill]

It's true.

[Juliana]

I'm kidding.

[Bill]

Winning the lottery to get in. No, I'm kidding.

[Juliana]

And she has an office in Brentwood in California.

[Nurse Jamie]

And I have more lasers under one roof than any other facility in Los Angeles. So we have a crap ton of machines.

[Bill]

I've seen.

[Juliana]

And I was gonna say the nice thing about Beauty Ranch, Nurse Jamie's place, is that you can go there and you don't even have to know, like, you're gonna do the zerf. You could go in and you, like, you'll kind of tell someone what they need.

[Nurse Jamie]

Yeah, it is. I will say it is like a cheesecake factory of lasers because it is so many. It's like, kind of like overwhelming on what to get. There's so many.

[Juliana]

But that's what you're good for.

[Nurse Jamie]

That's what you're good at.

[Juliana]

You could identify what someone needs.

[Nurse Jamie]

Exactly.

[Bill]

She's like an artist and she needs. She can see the canvas and decide how she's going to paint that canvas.

[Juliana]

Okay, so here's what we're going to do. Bill, we're going to see you do it, but we're going to have it on our social, so we're going to post that on our social. So everyone make sure you're following Bill and Juliana podcast and we're going to post it there. Jamie, thank you so much.

[Nurse Jamie]

Thank you guys.

[Juliana]

Love having you on. Please come back more often. Yes, we love it. And everyone, what do you even say?

[Bill]

It's going to be. It's going to be an insult to me, so just get it out of the system.

[Juliana]

Gobble, gobble. I love your goblin. He looks good right now.

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I got it.

[Nurse Jamie]

No, I got it.

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[Nurse Jamie]

I insisted first. Don't be silly.

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