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Bill Rancic
welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast
Juliana Dubrow
hey guys, welcome to Bill and Juliana the Podcast. Today we're going to talk about something that we deal with quite a bit at home. So we've been married almost 20 years, and kids out there, young people out there who are married. Maybe you're one or two. You're thinking to yourselves, oh, we're going to sleep in the same bed forever. These couples who sleep in separate beds are so weird. Or separate bedrooms are so weird. That's the sign of divorce. Oh, we're going to always share the same sink. It's so cute when he brushes his teeth. Okay, let me tell you something. Be married long enough, all of that will change. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but it's gonna change. No matter how cute you think he is today, him flossing his teeth after 20 years is gonna gross you out even more.
Bill Rancic
At least I floss.
Juliana Dubrow
I do floss. Well, I don't always floss, but I
Bill Rancic
think we have different. We have different hygiene.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay.
Bill Rancic
Priorities.
Heather Dubrow
Why don't.
Juliana Dubrow
Well, we have a doctor on with this beautiful one.
Bill Rancic
Yes, Very famous.
Juliana Dubrow
You guys know them as more than a doctor.
Bill Rancic
Very beautiful wife.
Juliana Dubrow
Heather and Terry Dubrow are joining us. Hi, you two.
Heather Dubrow
Hi. Wait, can we just start with the elephant in the room?
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
I like how you just introduced us as Heather and Terry Dubrow. Why is it Bill and Juliana?
Producer/Announcer
Oh, great question.
Heather Dubrow
Always been Juliana and Bill.
Bill Rancic
When we had the show on E, it was Julianne and Bill.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah. It's the brand.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I'll let you both prefer Dr. And Mrs. Terry Debrow.
Bill Rancic
Yes. Yes. As you will. You earned that.
Juliana Dubrow
Excuse me.
Heather Dubrow
Whatever.
Juliana Dubrow
So
Bill Rancic
he makes MD Terry, MD.
Heather Dubrow
He makes me call him that, too.
Juliana Dubrow
That's Doctor. But here, you know, podcast, it's very different. You know, it's very different. You're. You're a doctor. We know. But now you're. Today, you're a man.
Bill Rancic
I think he's a man every day, Bill.
Heather Dubrow
Just today.
Juliana Dubrow
So.
Ryan Reynolds
All right.
Juliana Dubrow
They're here to talk to. Because they're. They've been married a very long time. They've been almost 30 years.
Heather Dubrow
December, we will be together 30 years.
Juliana Dubrow
Wow.
Bill Rancic
Congratulations.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I call it forever. Yes, basically.
Bill Rancic
Well, in the Hollywood years, that's like. Yes, 100.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes. It just keeps going on and on. It's.
Heather Dubrow
So you don't share a bathroom? Is that what you're saying?
Juliana Dubrow
We. We do share a bathroom. We have two separate sinks. Thankfully, we do have separate things. We. We do share a bathroom. But do you guys have separate bathrooms?
Heather Dubrow
Well.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, completely and totally.
Heather Dubrow
That's what I heard a lot. We have historically, always Shared a bathroom, except with different.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You share.
Heather Dubrow
This is the. This is as a joke, when people say, like, what's the secret to your long marriage? I always say separate bathroom. That's my joke. But it is true. But you need separate toilet rooms.
Bill Rancic
That's where my next house. We had it at our old house.
Juliana Dubrow
We don't have that right now.
Bill Rancic
Our next house is going to have separate toilets.
Heather Dubrow
Not sharing a toilet. Even when we stay in a hotel, we have to have at least a bathroom and a powder room.
Juliana Dubrow
Are you serious?
Bill Rancic
Yes.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We will not get a room.
Heather Dubrow
We do not share a toilet.
Juliana Dubrow
You won't sit on the toilet he sits on or. What is it?
Heather Dubrow
Not that. I just don't want to hear it. I don't want to smell it.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I don't really smell it.
Heather Dubrow
Just saying.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Have you ever smelled it?
Juliana Dubrow
Yes. I can say she has.
Heather Dubrow
Everyone's 30 years.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Well, no, no.
Bill Rancic
My don't stink, by the way.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Neither does mine. And I will tell you, I've learned the concept even at home of the courtesy flush, which is, of course, boom, flush, Boom, flush.
Bill Rancic
She is not.
Heather Dubrow
I don't know.
Juliana Dubrow
I don't believe in the courtesy flush.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You don't?
Juliana Dubrow
Not at all.
Heather Dubrow
You just let the bowl fill.
Juliana Dubrow
Oh, what are you talking about?
Bill Rancic
No, she doesn't know how to double flush.
Juliana Dubrow
Why would I double flush?
Bill Rancic
To get it.
Heather Dubrow
Flush as you're going.
Juliana Dubrow
What?
Heather Dubrow
Yes.
Juliana Dubrow
I don't understand what you're saying.
Heather Dubrow
So if you are doing your business, you flush as you go. You don't, like, create.
Bill Rancic
I like to see. What? I like to take a good look. I like to see. Whatever.
Heather Dubrow
That's a guy thing.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Do you look at the tissue when you blow your nose?
Bill Rancic
No, you don't.
Juliana Dubrow
100 with the toilet.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I'm always like, you're going, okay, thank you very much.
Heather Dubrow
Did you want to see if you had corn yesterday?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Like, see you in two days.
Bill Rancic
Girth. And, like, I feel lighter today because I had a really good productive morning.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And so do you evaluate whether it's connected or it's in pieces? And the quality?
Heather Dubrow
No, just volume Vol.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, but I. I mean, I prefer the. The intact solid.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Like dense, really.
Heather Dubrow
But we're women, so we really don't go very often. Are you a. You're a regular.
Juliana Dubrow
I am so regular. It's weird.
Heather Dubrow
Really.
Juliana Dubrow
I'm gonna tell you, we might need to change the name of this podcast to Bill and Juliana Talk about poop all day. That's all we do. So we had our. Our gastroenterologist on don't make fun of me. How did I say right? Gastroenterologist. Thank you so much. Med school, no big deal.
Bill Rancic
Did not go to med school online in the Bahamas.
Heather Dubrow
No.
Juliana Dubrow
But died. So we had our gastroenterologist on Dr. Ruckum from Northwestern. He's like, amazing. So we did a whole episode on colonoscopies.
Heather Dubrow
We. We do them together. Like a date.
Commercial Voice
Wow.
Juliana Dubrow
Wait, do you go in surgery together or like in the. Do you do the procedure together?
Heather Dubrow
No, no, they. We go one at a time. But, like, we go to pre optic. We do together. We do the pre op together.
Bill Rancic
I have to try that next, by the way.
Heather Dubrow
We film it and we put it on Instagram.
Bill Rancic
I'm older. I'm a little bit older.
Juliana Dubrow
You're two years, three years older than me.
Bill Rancic
Well, I did it at 50.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay.
Bill Rancic
And then you have to go back at 50. I had a perfect.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We don't follow those criteria. We do it sooner.
Heather Dubrow
First of all, I had colon cancer in my family. Oh, my God. I started younger. I started it 40.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah.
Bill Rancic
Okay.
Heather Dubrow
And yeah, we go every three.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We believe. What did the GI talk about?
Heather Dubrow
Being thin? Bill, that prep. You are like a super.
Bill Rancic
I wish I could do it monthly.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah. What he did. You're not gonna believe this. Do you know that he did not go under?
Bill Rancic
I've never been under in my life.
Juliana Dubrow
He's never been under. So he stayed awake.
Heather Dubrow
Can you believe you've never had general anesthesia?
Ryan Reynolds
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Bill Rancic
And I had a rotator cuff surgery.
Heather Dubrow
Did it on local.
Bill Rancic
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
How was the tube. How was the tube back there?
Commercial Voice
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Bill Rancic
Never do it again. Yeah, it was.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Propofol is the greatest drug ever.
Bill Rancic
I got scared.
Heather Dubrow
Why?
Bill Rancic
I was afraid I was going to wake up and I. I was re. I was. I jumped into the Google train. And people who don't wake up and this and all the.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, it's so safe.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, I know.
Heather Dubrow
Let me getting back to the bathroom for a sec. Can I ask you guys a question?
Juliana Dubrow
Ye.
Heather Dubrow
So I like to share a bathroom with him. I mean, this is a totally unrelatable comment. Sorry. But, like, our bathrooms are large, right? So there's places to sit, we hang out. I. I feel like in the same way, when you drive your kid to school and pick them up, like, you hear all that stuff.
Producer/Announcer
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
And there's, like, conversations that happen. I feel like at the beginning and the end of the day, we're in there putting my makeup on, you know, washing my face, whatever. It's like we talk. I like that.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah, I agree. We do we talk in the bathroom too.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, we do.
Juliana Dubrow
But I think that like we. I think.
Heather Dubrow
I don't mind.
Juliana Dubrow
I think you don't like to be in the same in the bathroom with me. You think I junk everywhere.
Bill Rancic
You do. She has junk. I run a high and tight operation. Everything's got a home. I like my stuff organized. It is a hurricane. I don't know her counters got.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Are you like that makeup?
Heather Dubrow
We could live together. I mean, they could live.
Bill Rancic
That's a new show.
Heather Dubrow
There you go. My swap.
Juliana Dubrow
I think that show actually happened.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Let me ask you a question. How long. Let's say you guys have reservations at 7 at a restaurant.
Bill Rancic
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Okay. When do you start getting ready to go?
Bill Rancic
I'm quick.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes.
Bill Rancic
But I don't like to be late. So. I grew up. If you weren't five minutes early, you were late. Like that was my dad, you know.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Take you 10 minutes to do it all. Soup to nuts.
Bill Rancic
Soup to nuts.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
10 minutes.
Bill Rancic
10.
Heather Dubrow
Aren't men lucky?
Juliana Dubrow
Well, yeah. So I. This is very bad. It's a huge character flaw. I cannot do anything unless like I have a fire under me. So. 6:40, that's the adult 7:00 clock reservation.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So if you have 7:00 o' clock reservations, we typically leave at 7:05.
Bill Rancic
Oh, that's. That's early for her.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
If you're lucky.
Heather Dubrow
I have really tried. I'm so much better than I used to be. I am really making a concerted effort. But you know, I don't know what's weird. And I know you're the same exact way I am never late for work, ever.
Juliana Dubrow
Yes, you're right. At work I'm better.
Bill Rancic
That's true.
Heather Dubrow
Totally. Always ready. I think sometimes we aren't totally cognizant of how long it takes us. We go, I'm just going to slap a little mascara on. It's going to take time. Then you're right. And then 40 minutes later.
Juliana Dubrow
It's true. But I solved it because.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Seven o'. Clock. What time's dinner? Seven. And it's really at 7:30. Boom. We'll get there about 7:40.
Bill Rancic
I just think it's rude. Like the people who you're having dinner with, it's almost saying to them, I'm more important than you.
Heather Dubrow
No, we're not late to meet other people.
Bill Rancic
Oh, you're not?
Narrator/Advertiser
No.
Bill Rancic
Oh.
Heather Dubrow
Oh, no, no, no.
Bill Rancic
We are. Okay. No, yeah. Not we.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, you are.
Bill Rancic
We.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We never are.
Heather Dubrow
Well, I'm gonna tell you the honest truth. Okay. First of all, we would never be late.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You Are important. More important than other people?
Bill Rancic
No. Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
We wouldn't be late to meet other people because I feel like it's disrespectful and so I wouldn't want to do that. But also we are the most particular people about where we sit.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We're crazy.
Heather Dubrow
No way. Oh, we're insane. You all are. Oh, yeah.
Juliana Dubrow
Do you have to face the door or what?
Heather Dubrow
It just depends on the name.
Juliana Dubrow
The restaurant.
Heather Dubrow
I'll tell you. It's the table, it's the seat, it's the area in the restaurant.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
The lighting.
Heather Dubrow
I don't like weird lighting and I don't like if it's bright in my eye and I don't like down lighting. Yeah, we're so weird about it that we like to get there to make sure everything's okay.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah. If it's a restaurant that we don't always go to. Cause the ones we are six that we always go to, we have tables there.
Heather Dubrow
But even still, we want to be on the right side of the table.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes.
Bill Rancic
What are the six restaurants you always go to?
Heather Dubrow
Craig's. Okay.
Juliana Dubrow
You love Craig's.
Heather Dubrow
Mr. Chow's. Cipriani.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes. Avra.
Heather Dubrow
Avra, Olive Garden, Bird Street, Ponderosa.
Juliana Dubrow
Why aren't you guys opening up an RP Macaroni Grill?
Bill Rancic
It's hard to operate in the state of California.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
California? Yeah.
Bill Rancic
So we're in Nevada. Chicago. We have two restaurants. In D.C. we have Orlando. I know, but it's not a business friendly state.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
No, we like Alba.
Heather Dubrow
That's out of New York. Yeah, it's great.
Juliana Dubrow
No, I don't.
Heather Dubrow
It's Italian. It's. It's amazing.
Juliana Dubrow
Abba.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah.
Bill Rancic
Abba's different. Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes.
Juliana Dubrow
Wait, do you guys ever sleep in separate bedrooms, rooms and separate beds?
Heather Dubrow
I'm gonna let you answer that.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
The answer is no. Oh, ever.
Heather Dubrow
He would have a sleep divorce in a second.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes.
Heather Dubrow
Look, I won't even let him answer it.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I would if I could.
Juliana Dubrow
So you would want to sleep in a separate bed?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes, because I want to sleep.
Juliana Dubrow
Correct.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Meaning, you know, I don't sleep very well anyway.
Bill Rancic
I don't either.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And.
Commercial Voice
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
All night.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah, I'm up all night every night. But I think, you know, apart from, you know, the intimacy thing, you should just be able to. I sleep a lot better. She's not around, to be honest with you, because I always feel guilty. And if I touch her, she goes.
Heather Dubrow
I'm a very light sleeper.
Juliana Dubrow
You are? Yes. Really?
Heather Dubrow
Yes.
Juliana Dubrow
Do you ever do like the Oura ring or anything where you track your sleep to see how much REM you're getting.
Heather Dubrow
No, I tried doing all those things and I really, honestly, it was just too much for me.
Bill Rancic
It made me worse.
Juliana Dubrow
I don't care that much, really, because
Bill Rancic
I would get a bad sleep score and then it would ruin my whole day. So it's like I'm saying that and
Heather Dubrow
a bad bowel movement. What would you do?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
By the way? You don't need the nocebo effect.
Bill Rancic
That's exactly yes.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
No Sibo. You've heard of placebo?
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Nocebo is when somebody tells you about a side effect for something and you get that side effect even though you probably wouldn't have unless they didn't tell you. Right. That's called no. See, it's a real thing. Yeah. So if you know that you didn't sleep well, you're going to feel crummy all day. Yeah.
Producer/Announcer
No.
Heather Dubrow
So I like having him in the bed.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
She like yes.
Heather Dubrow
Even though he snores.
Juliana Dubrow
But I just poke yes.
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Juliana Dubrow
Who falls asleep first?
Heather Dubrow
Me.
Narrator/Advertiser
I don't.
Bill Rancic
Do you watch TV in bed?
Heather Dubrow
No.
Bill Rancic
No, I have to watch tv.
Juliana Dubrow
So he watches tv. That's why I have to sleep in a separate bed sometimes because he watches TV and it keeps me up. Like I can't. I have to like put a pillow on my head because I don't like the lights in the tv and then I fall asleep like thinking about whatever we were watching.
Heather Dubrow
I used to be like that too. I can't if he was watching TV at night. By the way, one surefire way to get rid of me is to start watching tv.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Well, we are, we are terrible sleep planners. We do everything you're not supposed to do.
Juliana Dubrow
What do you mean?
Bill Rancic
Screens in bed?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Screens in bed. We go to sleep too late. Irregularly drink alcohol. Drink and eat right before going to bed.
Narrator/Advertiser
No, we do.
Heather Dubrow
If it's wrong, we do it.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We will talk occasionally about anxiety producing things right before we go to sleep.
Heather Dubrow
And I love you.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Right. And now I've gotten so bad that I actually sleep with the phone right here.
Producer/Announcer
Wow.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And literally I will. I'm. I'm always awake every single hour.
Heather Dubrow
Wow.
Juliana Dubrow
What are you waiting for? Like what's going to pop up on the phone that you have to see?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I want to know what's happening with.
Juliana Dubrow
So it's like Instagram, like you want to know.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I mean straight to Hormuz, you know.
Bill Rancic
So you're, you're. You're fully committed to.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah, I'm sort of always been like that. I wonder if it comes from when your early days of being in residency and they you just never slept.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Residency was like 7 years of not sleeping. And I. And I got used to. And I actually like slight sleep deprivation. Weirdly, if I get too much sleep, I don't feel that good. But that's not a good message, you guys.
Juliana Dubrow
Coming from a doctor Bill doesn't want to sleep with me anymore because I also. We have four. Well, we have five dogs, and four of them sleep in the bed with us.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
See, I would love that.
Narrator/Advertiser
I love that.
Bill Rancic
Listen, I'm £210. These things are big ones. I roll over and I'm gonna kill one of these things. Like, that's why I'm.
Juliana Dubrow
That's not why you said. It's because, like, they wake you up.
Bill Rancic
They wake me up. They want me to pet them in the middle of the night.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I'm like, see, I would love that.
Juliana Dubrow
It's a blessing.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
This one sleeps in the bed.
Heather Dubrow
I couldn't do that either.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So cute. And it's not.
Heather Dubrow
So they walk in.
Bill Rancic
Hygiene part of it, too.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And they get in the bed, there's no hygiene. They're all clean. I love them all. Kiss me on the lips. I just love all these animals.
Bill Rancic
What medical school did you go to?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Ucla.
Bill Rancic
I gotta call the dean.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Just down the street. He's dead, by the way.
Juliana Dubrow
Separate bathrooms.
Bill Rancic
God rest his soul.
Juliana Dubrow
Separate bathrooms. Not separate bedrooms. You guys are still good. You still sleep together.
Heather Dubrow
Well, right now, in our current living situation, we don't share a bathroom at all.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We have separate bathrooms completely right now.
Bill Rancic
Got it.
Juliana Dubrow
But you could if you had to.
Heather Dubrow
So we're living in a high rise now. Did I tell you this?
Bill Rancic
I didn't know this. No.
Heather Dubrow
So we've had sort of things over the last couple years with selling homes and whatnot, and. And we had bought this penthouse.
Bill Rancic
You guys have had incredible real estate career, by the way.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Very lucky.
Bill Rancic
I mean, I followed your.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes. Super, super lucky.
Heather Dubrow
So we had bought this apartment to be like a little pied a terre for the two of us for someday. And we ended up selling that house that we were in at the time. And so all these things happened. Now we're in this building and I bought the apartment underneath us. So now we have two apartments. One of them I'm gutting.
Bill Rancic
Okay.
Heather Dubrow
And that's where all the kids are going to go. And it's gonna be like. If you think of a house, like upstairs and downstairs. Yeah.
Bill Rancic
She'll have stairs going.
Heather Dubrow
No, it's actually just an. There's an elevator between the two floors, which is great. And so we're gonna be upstairs. So I will eventually redo our upstairs apartment. And I think that's why it's interesting we're talking about this. Cause I was thinking we should go back to the shared bathroom with the separate toilet rooms. But I think you don't want that.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I'd like you to be in 38 and me to be in 37.
Bill Rancic
So is this gonna be the.
Juliana Dubrow
So we should have separate apartments now.
Bill Rancic
Okay. But is this the permanent home?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
This is it.
Bill Rancic
So this is it.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
This is it. This is where we're never want to
Heather Dubrow
see a blade of grass again.
Juliana Dubrow
Really? Really?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah, we love it.
Bill Rancic
It's easy living.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
The doorman.
Heather Dubrow
First of all, it is so secure, this place. They don't even let a delivery person up. No one.
Bill Rancic
Right.
Heather Dubrow
They bring it up. It is like there's 10 guys downstairs. It's very.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Here's the thing. Every single Real Housewife of Beverly Hills, everyone, without fail, has been robbed.
Producer/Announcer
Wow.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
In the last year and a half. And a couple of them were home when they were.
Juliana Dubrow
I remember that.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So to buy a home.
Heather Dubrow
Terrifying.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
If you're on Housewives and you buy a home in Los Angeles, you're gonna get robbed. And you may be there. You don't want to do that also.
Heather Dubrow
I just know you're right. I like this phase of our life. So we have two kids graduating college, and then we have one who's in college and one who's in high school. So, like, the end is nigh. I just like the idea. We love to travel. Our lives are morphing in kind of an interesting way. And I like being able to just
Bill Rancic
say, yes, close the door.
Heather Dubrow
Bye.
Juliana Dubrow
That's it.
Bill Rancic
Right.
Heather Dubrow
Great.
Juliana Dubrow
So, Terry, how often are you, like, are you with patients and doing surgery and stuff like that?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So I used to do it seven days a week, including Sundays, obviously. And then I did six, and then I did five. Now I do, what, four? Three and a half.
Heather Dubrow
Three and a half.
Bill Rancic
In the or.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
In the or. Or in the office. You know, I mix them a lot.
Bill Rancic
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
But still do a lot of surgery. But just I do so many different other things now, like testifying. I love being an expert witness. I do a lot of that in court. And that's the reason our oldest daughter is going to law school. Because I'm so excited about the law. I want her to be a da. She can do whatever she wants. But that's what I would do if I could go back. If I didn't have to work for money, I'd be a district Attorney.
Bill Rancic
Wow. Really?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I think he loves the law. I love the law.
Heather Dubrow
I think it's, you know, we've got products, we've got podcasts. You know, we have all these other things. It's fun. And we love working. Like, we're like, you guys will say, you know, what's. What do you. What do you guys do? And I'm like, some people play golf. Some people, you know, have hobbies together. We like to work. We write books together. We come up with things just very
Bill Rancic
similar to almost a parallel path. Yes.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, I'm sure.
Heather Dubrow
Isn't that fun? We love being creative together.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
And so I think our careers are, like, you know, just shifting.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
But do you sell on Tick Tock?
Juliana Dubrow
No. Are you doing that?
Heather Dubrow
Oh, he's a tick tock.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Right now we have a product. I'm a tick tock. Ho.
Juliana Dubrow
You're a tick tock.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I totally.
Heather Dubrow
He is.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So we used to sell. We have a pretty significant skincare line that we used to sell at a shopping channel. Yeah, I remember the shopping channel went under.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So either go to another shopping channel or you do like we list or
Heather Dubrow
you're a tick taco.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Gary Vee said, the future of the marketplace is on Tick Tock.
Juliana Dubrow
Yes.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And I said, really? And then so, boom, I sell on tip, put my phone on my desk, and I go, hello.
Bill Rancic
You know what? Hang on.
Juliana Dubrow
We gotta do that. Oh, my God. That's my pasta line. I am dead. I am dead.
Heather Dubrow
Oh, this is Mama dipandi. Don't break it. By the way, that's my favorite kind of pasta.
Juliana Dubrow
Bucatini.
Heather Dubrow
Well, I love bucatini too, but the
Juliana Dubrow
little squiggly, the radiatoris, aren't they so good?
Heather Dubrow
Those are my two favorite. I like the bucatini with the hoy.
Juliana Dubrow
It's so good.
Narrator/Advertiser
Should we.
Heather Dubrow
Let's do it.
Juliana Dubrow
Should we sell food? Can you sell food?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I love it.
Heather Dubrow
Can you?
Juliana Dubrow
We should go sell food on TikTok.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, we'll sell. You got to teach me.
Heather Dubrow
By the way, can you sell food on TikTok?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Of course.
Heather Dubrow
Thank you for selling.
Juliana Dubrow
No, can you sell food?
Heather Dubrow
I'm just kidding.
Bill Rancic
No, no.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We want to hire you, by the way. It's an incredibly interesting skill set that takes about 15 times to master because you interact with the audience. They said, but you got to talk and start selling.
Heather Dubrow
It's like doing an Instagram live. Like, do you remember when you first started doing I can't remember. Hsn?
Producer/Announcer
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
So do you remember when you first started? Obviously, you're a TV person, you know, but it is a. It's a slow burnt. It's. It's. It's slow and you're talking to no one and you're getting feedback.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah, there's a learning curve.
Heather Dubrow
There's definitely a learning curve too. So we started on the shopping channel. You know, this one didn't really get it the worst. He was so bad.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, wait, the red light's there.
Heather Dubrow
But now he totally gets it. You'd be great on Tick Tock. And you do it with your mom.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, it's a great idea. It is the future. You should do it.
Heather Dubrow
And they only take 6%.
Bill Rancic
Oh, wow.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
That's the thing. Six.
Heather Dubrow
Wow.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Like a shopping train. You take 50.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, right.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah.
Ryan Reynolds
Six.
Juliana Dubrow
That's crazy.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah. So you have your fulfillment.
Juliana Dubrow
Where's all this stuff?
Bill Rancic
So do you keep the mailing list then?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We. We only have our big.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah. Because of subscription and whatnot.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, great.
Bill Rancic
So it's a. Every month they get a package sent to their home.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Exactly.
Heather Dubrow
Well, for the people that sign up for that. Yeah.
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Juliana Dubrow
Wait, I want to know about your skincare line. What's your best selling product? What should I get?
Heather Dubrow
What do we have?
Juliana Dubrow
I have these lines here and I don't do anything about it. I do nothing. I do. No, I'm ready. I'm going from zero to facelift one day. I'm not even doing anything in between. Do not put a filler in my face.
Bill Rancic
You don't need it.
Juliana Dubrow
Yes, I do.
Heather Dubrow
No, you don't. You look fantastic.
Juliana Dubrow
Guys, we can be honest. We're gonna do a whole episode on it. I actually think so. We have our studio, our main studio is in Chicago in the 900 building. And there's a very famous surgery center there called 900 Surgery Center.
Bill Rancic
I don't think it's that big.
Heather Dubrow
I don't know what the hell it's called.
Bill Rancic
I don't know.
Juliana Dubrow
But anyway, you see people coming in and out of there with their facelift bandages. So I was like, oh my God. On the cause I was like, I should get a facelift before the podcast so I look good, you know, when everyone sees me for the first time in a while. And then I was like, oh yeah, no, no. And then I was like, no, wait, better idea, let me go on the podcast and I'm going to do it live on the podcast. And so what I think I'm going to do is film an episode where it's like live. And then I'm going to walk from the podcast into this.
Heather Dubrow
Oh my gosh, you're so.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
That'll be huge.
Juliana Dubrow
Propofol, all of it. And be like, by the way, anyways, I need this figured out.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
May I recommend you put that on a TikTok?
Bill Rancic
Make some money.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
No, it will up. And by the way, on Tick Tock, I love you. They can buy you stuff. They buy you things that.
Heather Dubrow
They put a hat on you, like.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah, that's a dollar.
Juliana Dubrow
You're joking. No.
Heather Dubrow
They make you like western. They give you a mustache.
Bill Rancic
Wow.
Juliana Dubrow
I'm dead.
Heather Dubrow
They buy you little gifts.
Bill Rancic
Where does that money go?
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You and your.
Bill Rancic
To you.
Heather Dubrow
To you.
Bill Rancic
Oh, wow.
Juliana Dubrow
That is amazing. Okay, wait. So going back, that's incredible.
Heather Dubrow
What product do you do? So we have a. I mean, we've been doing this for a long time. So we have like many different ranges in our line.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay.
Heather Dubrow
Is that how you say that? Yes, but our most popular. And it's all I use. Like, we don't test on animals. I'm the guinea pig because I'm allergic to everything.
Juliana Dubrow
You don't test on animals.
Heather Dubrow
No.
Juliana Dubrow
Thank you. Everyone buy your line, please.
Heather Dubrow
I'm like into that. But one of our biggest lines is our champagne lift line. Obviously, I'm known for champagne. That's that kind of thing. So it's a champagne lift line. But in the products, there's champagne and black truffle and caviar. It's like. Sounds like.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes, yes.
Heather Dubrow
The champagne lift line, it's all for lifting, toning and tightening based ingredients.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
They're designed to increase your life, send
Heather Dubrow
you a whole thing.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
We have two components. We have Console Beauty, which is the skincare, and Console Health. We have an ingestible line.
Heather Dubrow
So it's like internal. Internal approach.
Bill Rancic
I need to go on creatine.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
There's a lot creatine.
Juliana Dubrow
You're not on creatine.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
It's the best.
Heather Dubrow
You need to be on creatine.
Bill Rancic
I don't take anything.
Juliana Dubrow
Nothing. You don't do peptides, vitamins for hair.
Bill Rancic
I want to start testosterone too. Yes, but we'll talk about that.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, you must do that. So it's a lot. The adjustable line is a lot like this. You have two choices. You can die, or for $29.95, you can buy this. Up to you.
Bill Rancic
I'm going to use that.
Heather Dubrow
You could only sell out.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So you have 20.
Bill Rancic
We only have 9,000 units left.
Juliana Dubrow
Wait, I'm sorry. My little brain is confused. Are you literally saying that about olive oil?
Narrator/Advertiser
I'm asking.
Juliana Dubrow
Or is it a product?
Bill Rancic
No, that's his product.
Juliana Dubrow
Olive oil.
Heather Dubrow
He says it.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Bottle of fill in the blank.
Heather Dubrow
He goes, you can buy this
Bill Rancic
up
Juliana Dubrow
to you, I'm dead.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
And if you buy two, it's 20%
Bill Rancic
off, throwing the shipping.
Heather Dubrow
And Addie, it's heart healthy olive oil.
Bill Rancic
Yes.
Juliana Dubrow
High in polyphenols. Yes, mama.
Heather Dubrow
So you can eat this or you can die.
Bill Rancic
You can just die. I'm going to. I'm going on Tik tok ingestibles like
Juliana Dubrow
vitamins that I'm going to swallow and eat and they're healthy for me.
Heather Dubrow
No, we're doing your olive oil.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
It's either mama depend or mama to depend.
Juliana Dubrow
He's very.
Bill Rancic
Wow.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Wow.
Bill Rancic
I'm gonna learn.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I thought I knew it all. That's how you met.
Heather Dubrow
There you go.
Juliana Dubrow
He's unbelievable.
Bill Rancic
That's why the Guy's got an 80 million dollar home and singing by accident.
Juliana Dubrow
What is your TikTok handle asking for a friend.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
What is it, Dr. Dubro?
Heather Dubrow
Oh, I'm all but that's consult beauty. Console Beauty.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
It should be live or die. Up to you.
Juliana Dubrow
Why am I watching all this videos of you with the skincare on Tik Tok?
Heather Dubrow
I know, but is it on consult beauty.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Oh, Consult beauty. Consult, consult, consult. C, O, N, S, U, L, T. Beauty.
Heather Dubrow
B E, A U, T E. We didn't spell it.
Juliana Dubrow
Oh, with an e at the end.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes. It's kind of fancy.
Heather Dubrow
Spelled fancy.
Juliana Dubrow
Non traditional. Wrong way.
Heather Dubrow
I'm just.
Bill Rancic
But 30 years together.
Juliana Dubrow
Yes.
Bill Rancic
Three tips. For people who've only been together 20 years or so, who just been married. Just got married.
Heather Dubrow
I think your trajectory is good.
Narrator/Advertiser
Okay.
Juliana Dubrow
For newcomers, I'd love to know three tips.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah, we did the separate bathroom.
Heather Dubrow
Separate bathrooms would have been my knee jerk.
Bill Rancic
Got it.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I think a big part of my message is, well, okay, this will be simple. Let's go to sleep mad.
Heather Dubrow
Oh yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Go to sleep mad. Do not try to work it out. Right before you go to sleep.
Juliana Dubrow
We do that.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Say, I know, but then you're now gonna sleep poorly. It's gonna make it worse. You might have alcohol in your system.
Bill Rancic
You're at an elevated state.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You're an elevated state. Yeah. Go to sleep. Work it out tomorrow. And you know how a lot of sort of big problems sort of devolve or degenerate or go away as a few nights of sleep are pat you. You'll feel better about it tomorrow.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
So I think go to sleep mad. Do not try to work it out.
Juliana Dubrow
Don't try to work it out.
Bill Rancic
That's two.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay.
Heather Dubrow
He's right though.
Juliana Dubrow
By the next morning we're always.
Bill Rancic
Yeah, usually kind of.
Heather Dubrow
I think it is Real. And you and I have talked about this before, but I think it's really important to pay attention and prioritize your marriage. And what I. And I really mean all of the things you think I mean. You have to have date nights. You have to have sex. You have to stay together even when you're tired. You don't have to have sex all the time. Not every night. But I'm saying, like, you know what it's like. We're all busy. You travel, we have children, whatever. There's stressful things. You're tired. You know, it's very easy to get off track. And you have to make sure. It's like, you know, work begets work. It's like sex begets sex. You know what I'm saying? Like, you go, oh, wait, that's so good. Why don't we do that more often?
Bill Rancic
Let's watch out tonight, honey.
Juliana Dubrow
I'm tired.
Heather Dubrow
Put your pups on.
Juliana Dubrow
I'm gonna be tired.
Heather Dubrow
I think that's very important, having dates together. And this may be unpopular, and we have four incredible children that we love and adore, that I do everything, like, with and for and all of that. We have great relationship. We prioritize our marriage. They will be gone. Not that my job as a mother will ever stop. It won't. But at the end of the day, it's us.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Heather Dubrow
And you cannot lose sight of that.
Producer/Announcer
I love that.
Bill Rancic
Yeah. You don't want to be tough to. At this stage of the game, you know, to kind of be single again. I don't know if I could do it. I don't want to go date again. No, I don't wanna.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah.
Producer/Announcer
I don't know.
Heather Dubrow
Do you ever do this? This is probably bad, but do you ever do the thing. If I die, what happens?
Juliana Dubrow
Yes, you do. And what, with each other, you mean? Or.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah, with each other.
Juliana Dubrow
No.
Bill Rancic
No.
Heather Dubrow
Do you have that conversation ever?
Bill Rancic
Like, I would never get remarried again.
Heather Dubrow
You wouldn't?
Bill Rancic
No.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Neither would I.
Juliana Dubrow
Neither would I.
Bill Rancic
What's the point? No, I don't want more kids.
Juliana Dubrow
You would get remarried.
Heather Dubrow
I would never get remarried. No, I don't think I would.
Juliana Dubrow
I'll never find someone who's as great as Bill. Like, he's so honest and loyal and I love everybody.
Heather Dubrow
Oh, I'd find someone great. Oh, yeah. I'm going. Someone's got maybe a plane, right?
Ryan Reynolds
Wow.
Heather Dubrow
I'm kidding.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
No, you're not.
Heather Dubrow
No, I am. No, but he will say no. But all joking aside, Terry will say to me, if something happens, happens, Listen, Yeah. Mourn, do your thing. But then you gotta get there.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I'm like, you have six months.
Heather Dubrow
I will be like, yeah, yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
A lot.
Heather Dubrow
I will be done.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I.
Heather Dubrow
We. We did this.
Juliana Dubrow
I don't know. I can't start over with.
Narrator/Advertiser
I can't.
Juliana Dubrow
And explaining everything again.
Heather Dubrow
And like, I can't starting.
Juliana Dubrow
Explain it all again. The whole life.
Bill Rancic
Would I.
Heather Dubrow
And like, we're older now.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Of course you would.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah.
Bill Rancic
I'd go out and, you know.
Juliana Dubrow
Huh. And do what?
Bill Rancic
Go to a movie.
Heather Dubrow
Oh, wait, wait. Juliana, here's the real question, because Terri's already answered this. What would your age range be? Bill.
Juliana Dubrow
Great question. He's never answered that.
Ryan Reynolds
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Juliana Dubrow
And can I just start before you answer, because as a friend. As a friend, don't you want someone that, like, is your generation?
Heather Dubrow
No.
Juliana Dubrow
So that you can bond on like, we both love Billy Joel. No.
Bill Rancic
I'm young at heart.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yeah.
Bill Rancic
I'm very young at heart.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Well, let me.
Bill Rancic
I'm a free.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You know, before you tell us, because you don't live here, the legal age In California is 18.
Heather Dubrow
What did you say you were? What was. What was Terry's age range? 35.
Juliana Dubrow
Terry.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Shockingly young.
Bill Rancic
I wouldn't dip into the 20s.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
You're turning down 28 years olds, by the way.
Bill Rancic
Instead of turning them down. I wouldn't actively pursue. Pursue them. But if a 20. A smoking hot 28 year old wants. You're all in me to take her out for dinner.
Juliana Dubrow
She won't.
Bill Rancic
I would. I know.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Probably not.
Bill Rancic
I'm kidding. Yeah, probably.
Juliana Dubrow
No. You're so cute.
Bill Rancic
But it's a tough. That's a tough question to answer. It's going to be based on the person.
Juliana Dubrow
Late 40s.
Bill Rancic
There won't be a four in front of her age.
Juliana Dubrow
Would you.
Bill Rancic
There will not be a four.
Juliana Dubrow
I can't.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Yes. I'm old. Old.
Bill Rancic
I don't know how.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Well, I'm 67. Wow.
Heather Dubrow
Yeah.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I would not date someone.
Bill Rancic
You don't look 67.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I appreciate it.
Heather Dubrow
I am 57.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Heather is way too old for me right now, apparently.
Bill Rancic
Well, can I just say this? And I don't mean this and it just. I don't mean this in a disrespectful way. She can replace you a lot quicker than you're gonna replace her.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
That's true.
Heather Dubrow
I don't know.
Bill Rancic
I mean, you got a hot wife.
Heather Dubrow
He's got a lot of money.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I don't know.
Bill Rancic
I think I have a lot of money right now, but she's got half.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
That's true.
Bill Rancic
You're 30 years in, dude.
Heather Dubrow
So let's be honest, Bill. If he died, I'd even have more. We have a lot of life insurance.
Bill Rancic
I'm kidding. You're incredible. I mean, you look amazing. That was a joke.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
I have a very huge life insurance policy. How much do you think I have on Heather?
Bill Rancic
Oh, zero.
Heather Dubrow
Because he told me that if something happens to me, his life is going to be a lot less expensive.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
That's true. I immediately make 5 million a year.
Juliana Dubrow
What is ours, do you know?
Bill Rancic
We're sorry, self insured. I don't need a life insurance policy.
Juliana Dubrow
Oh, what? Should I get one?
Bill Rancic
Yes.
Heather Dubrow
No, she does.
Bill Rancic
She doesn't.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
She's good.
Heather Dubrow
Do it while he's young and healthy. Do it now. We'll talk after.
Juliana Dubrow
Juliana, That's a whole other episode.
Bill Rancic
Yeah.
Juliana Dubrow
Do I get life insurance?
Bill Rancic
You don't need it.
Juliana Dubrow
Okay, okay, fine, fine, fine. You guys, we love you so much. This was so much fun.
Dr. Terry Dubrow
Thank you. We had a great time.
Heather Dubrow
Thank you.
Bill Rancic
Oh, my God. This is great. Thank you.
Heather Dubrow
Let's do dinner next time. Cocktails?
Producer/Announcer
Yes, please.
Juliana Dubrow
Yeah, let's do it at one of your six favorite restaurants. Restaurants or Olive Garden. I went recently in Wisconsin. It was pretty good.
Heather Dubrow
Unlimited breadsticks.
Juliana Dubrow
It was. I love the breadsticks. I got so full on them. Thank you, guys.
Bill Rancic
So, thanks, guys. Good to see you again.
Juliana Dubrow
Thanks, everyone for listening.
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Release Date: June 23, 2026
Guests: Heather and Dr. Terry Dubrow
In this lively and candid episode, Bill and Giuliana Rancic welcome long-married couple Heather and Dr. Terry Dubrow to tackle one of the most-searched, most-taboo relationship questions: Should couples sleep in separate bedrooms? The conversation meanders through the everyday realities of long-term marriage—covering everything from bathroom boundaries and nighttime habits to practical tips for marital longevity—delivered with warmth, humor, and real-life anecdotes. The couples reflect on how relationships evolve over decades, the art and science of personal space, why separate bathrooms might be a marital secret weapon, and how to maintain intimacy (and sanity) as life gets busier and messier.
(02:36 – 05:14)
"Be married long enough, all of that will change. I’m sorry to burst your bubble, but it’s gonna change…" (02:44)
"When people say, like, what’s the secret to your long marriage? I always say separate bathrooms. That’s my joke. But it is true." (05:00)
(05:14 – 08:00)
"I like to take a good look… I feel lighter today because I had a really good productive morning." (06:16)
(09:44 – 12:14)
"I am never late for work, ever. But for social things, it’s different." (10:40)
(13:03 – 14:20, 16:51 – 21:24)
"The answer is no. Oh, ever." (13:04)
"I would if I could… I want to sleep. I sleep a lot better, she’s not around, to be honest with you." (13:10)
"I like having him in the bed… Even though he snores, I just poke him." (14:20)
(18:27 – 19:19)
(19:24 – 21:46)
(21:55 – 25:21)
"Gary Vee said, the future of the marketplace is on TikTok. And I said, really? … Boom, I sell on TikTok." (23:27)
(28:02 – 31:32)
"You have two choices. You can die, or for $29.95, you can buy this. Up to you." (30:44)
(32:36 – 34:55)
"Go to sleep mad. Do not try to work it out right before you go to sleep." (33:00)
"Pay attention and prioritize your marriage… Date nights, sex, stay together even when you’re tired." (34:09)
(35:07 – 38:39)
"Oh, I’d find someone great. I’m going—someone’s got maybe a plane, right?" (35:29)
Episode in a sentence:
A refreshingly real, intimate, and funny look at what it takes to stay happy and sane in a long marriage—where bathroom logistics, sleep compromises, and never-ending adaptation meet the occasional TikTok side hustle and a healthy dose of mutual respect.