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Iran’s Impact on the Economy, Dr. Melanie Hart on the U.S.'s Relationship with China, the Future of Iran & Alejandro Mayorkas Criticizes Biden’s Immigration Approach
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Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to another edition of the no spin news. Wednesday, May 13, 2026. Stand up for your country. We are reporting tonight from Manhattan where in a few moments I'm going to interview former Governor Andrew Cuomo for our Do It Live long form. That should be interesting, right? For me it will be. And of course, we're tracking the Trump Xi meeting in Beijing, but it's really hard to get anything solid out of that. You know, they're having tea and dancing. All right. But you know what's really going on behind the scenes? I'm working it like crazy, but I don't have anything yet. Really solid. Okay. I know the parameters of what President Trump would like to get and she as well. But we reported that all this week. But I don't know the specifics. On the Western front, all is quiet. That was the name of a very famous book with Iran. But that's going to have to change because as we'll show you in a moment, the American public has turned with a ferocity against the Trump administration on the Iranian issue. And the president knows it. I mean, he may not acknowledge it publicly, but he knows. And so something's going to have to give there. And we're all waiting. That is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. New CNN poll. Not a honest poll because it's US adults 1499, not people who vote, not people who pay attention. And as we showed you the other day, when you have just adults, you can have a poll that has 14% of Trump supporters. How would you know? Nobody would know. So Donald Trump got 77 million votes. But and he easily defeated Kamala Harris with that number. But CNN doesn't have to replicate that number. Use any number it wants. So be skeptical. But I got to give you the data. First question, how do you think Donald Trump's policies have affected the cost of living in your community? Increased 77%. Decreased 8%. No effect. 16%. 77 is a big number. Okay, second question, do you think Donald Trump's policies have improved economic conditions? 22%. Worsen them 65%. No effect. 12, another big, big number that is going to matter if things stay the Same. Now, if there is a breakthrough and we get the Iranians to sign a treaty, they will not enrich uranium and the Straits of Hormuz will be open, things will turn around in my opinion, but I think that's foregone. So Iran has a huge advantage and we've been over this, Xi. And China knows all the Iranians got to do is sit it out. They don't do anything because the American economy, inflation is being harmed and the world economy, including China, is being harmed too. But I'm not sure China, you know, they want to hurt the usa. They're not our friends. They can have all the tea they want. Okay? Now, tomorrow wraps it up in Beijing and then Friday the President will be back. I'd hold a press conference, an extensive one, and answer the questions if I were Mr. Trump. I hope he does. You don't have to give away national security, but you know, 77%, that's overwhelming number if the Republicans want to hold the House and the Senate in November. Now it says short term gain, short term pain for a long term gain. I understand all that, but believe me when I tell you people get worried about their finances. There's usually a regime change no matter what country you're in. Now yesterday the media started to pile on because they despise Donald Trump and the New York Times is the league leader in that. So they ran a story the Times did that says the Trump administration has overstated the military success in Iran. This is what the New York Times says. Problem with the story is it's all anonymous sources, okay? There's nobody identified and everybody knows at times doesn't like Trump. So they can write a story like this. Find somebody who doesn't like Trump in the administration or out and just quote that person, sources close to the story. You know, the game and the game is being played every single day in order to hurt Donald Trump. Okay? So the piece basically says that Iran now has access to 30 missile sites that it did not have access to just a few weeks ago. Who knows? I mean, where does that come from? Is somebody from the New York Times over counting them? You know, I'm very skeptical at any of this stuff. And in my Sunday column, which is still posted on billorilly.com, i show you, I show you the proof of how this kind of stuff is bogus in many. But you go back to the polling. So Atlas, which is a good polling center, they have a poll out and they say, question if the midterm elections for the House were held Today, who would you most likely vote for? Democrat, 55, Republican 40. So that's big. Okay, second one, provided that these candidates were who you would vote for in Democratic primaries, who are the 28 presidential election leaders? Alexandria Ocasio, Cortez, number one. On the Democratic side, it's crazy. Pete Buttigieg and Gavin Newsom. That's a weak bench. Okay. On the Republican side, we reported this yesterday. Marco Rubio, no. 1 J.D. vance 2 Ron DeSantis, 3. So the Democrats are gaining in a hypothetical midterm vote if it were held tomorrow. Now, one more thing, and this is very important. So all of the high oil prices, which Iran is responsible for, and some people blame the usa, but come on, I mean, it's all about nukes. They if Iran can moderate or Israel and the USA can destroy the structure there, which could happen militarily, those oil prices will go down fast because there's plenty of oil. Just can't get it out of there. Okay, so that is almost unique in the sense that it's not a hopeless situation. It can turn. And obviously, people who don't like Trump don't really want it to turn into people who do like Trump. Obviously, they're on his side. Tomorrow, the president expected part China about 6pm local time. Remember, China's 12 hours ahead of us, and then he'll be back on Friday. Okay, anything else here? I think that is my update for you. And joining us now From Washington is Dr. Melanie Hart, senior director of the Atlanta Council's Global China Hub, which is an outfit that develops strategies to address challenges posed by China's rising global influence. Would you say, Doctor, that you guys are hostile to China? Do you see them as an enemy of the United States?
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We see China as a competitor, sometimes an adversary, but also there's space for cooperation where it makes sense. And just to give you a concrete example, China's been developing some novel cancer therapies. If Chinese scientists come up with a new cancer therapy that can cure Americans, we'd love to have access to that. We keep our mind open where we can do great things cooperatively. That doesn't injure American interests, let's do that. But where we need to compete to defend American interests, let's do that, too.
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All right. But you know as well as I do that for every concession China makes to the usa, it wants something back. They're just not going to give. They're not going to give stuff away. They're going to go, all right, well, let's you take a look at the cancer or medicine. But you got to do this for us.
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China always tries to have a tit for tat dynamic with the United States. So that's what President Trump will be dealing with in Beijing over tea, as you put it with Xi Jinping.
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Do you have anything to bring to the table new about that situation vis a vis China?
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That may be the overwhelming problem for the Trump administration. That is not the overwhelming problem for Xi Jinping and the Chinese. Beijing does not intend to help the United States out of the Iran situation or the Strait of Hormuz. A Chinese tanker, Trump, well, for example, a Chinese tanker made it through the strait just today. They're doing fine on the energy front. And if you look at Chinese government sources and what they're saying about the US Effort in Iran, they expect the US to fail. So what you see China doing, if you assess their behavior and is they are calibrating their actions to avoid making this a fight between Beijing and Washington. Right. So they're being careful not to provide missiles to Iran or to help them militarily, but they're still buying Iranian oil. And just the other day, Beijing ordered the Chinese teapot refineries that refine the Iranian oil to violate U.S. sanctions. The new sanctions from the Trump administration trying to clamp down on the shipments of oil from Iran to China. Basically, Beijing said, don't abide by that.
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Okay, so that's nothing unusual because Xi wanted to put himself in a position of asking for something from the United States, whether it be open up talks on Taiwan or better trade agreements, which she needs. He needs that from the usa. So he's going to push it to the wall before the chats even start. Right.
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We see no evidence to indicate that China is interested to make a deal with the United States on Iran. They have plenty of leverage over us with critical minerals. They'll use critical minerals and our dependence on China for rare earths to push the Trump administration for whatever it is that China wants. And they have a long list. They'll also use the fact that President Trump wants China to buy large amounts of American soybeans, beef, Boeing aircraft. The Trump team wants a high purchase number, buying goods from American farmers and American companies. That also gives Xi Jinping some leverage. There's just no, from Beijing's perspective, there's no reason for them to help the US out on Iran. They may. For they may. They will be careful to not cross the reddest of red lines, and that is being caught providing weapons to Iran. And I think we saw President Trump allude to that. They had caught evidence of that and that China had promised to back off. That's exactly what they did with Russia and Ukraine. We've seen that movie before.
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Okay. And it doesn't really matter anyway because the United States and Israel could destroy those weapons fairly quickly. The Chinese know that. All right. I mean, that's certainly a pessimistic view of it, but probably realistic view. So then you come back to UDC. The president does, and he's facing 77% of the American public blaming him for higher prices on not just gas, but food and everything else. So he has to do something militarily, I would imagine, against Iran. He has to move against Iran.
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You know, it's a good point with gas prices, you know, for China's gas prices have risen a lot less than ours here in the US our retail gasoline is up 51% since the war. China's is up only 39%. So they're not feeling the same pain at the pump as we are. We rely on oil and gas. That's about 70% of our energy mix. China relies on coal. So oil and gas is only about 30% of their energy mix. Where things. I think the, the, the interesting question that you're really asking is where is everybody's pain point? President Trump has a clear pain point that you're talking about with American voters. And at what point do we begin to decide that the costs are too high? Just. China does have a pain point, too. It's just a little further down the line. China's okay right now from an energy perspective, but China's problem is going to be if the rest of the global economy is tanking from this energy shortage, they can't buy Chinese goods anymore. So China does have a pain point. It's just a longer fuse than ours. And then the other question is, what's Iran's pain point? You know, where are our relative leverage to each other? And I think we're going to find out in real time, which is a bit of a scary thing.
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And it's going to be very fast. China doesn't want disorder. That's the big thing for the Xi government, as you pinpointed. They have to sell their stuff abroad and they don't want disorder in the worldwide marketplace. So that gives Trump a slight advantage. And I don't know whether Xi on the sly, never do it in public. Okay, we'll say, look, we'll help you out here. But I, I don't know how he could help Trump out because these mullahs are so fanatical, they're willing to die. They don't care about their own people. It's not like a regular country. It's a terrorist state. And they've never respected their own people. They shoot them down in the street if they dissent. So I don't know how you put pressure on a government like that. The only way you're going to have to do it is just to destroy their communication centers, it seems to me. I don't see option B.
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There's a good parallel between Iran and North Korea, you know, where they have that strict authoritarian.
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Let me stop you there, though. But China controls North Korea because it doesn't want disorder. And North Korea is so small and so weak that China in a day can go in there and do whatever it wants.
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Actually doesn't control North Korea to the extent that a lot of folks in Washington assume. Kim Jong Un is a tough character. He has nuclear weapons. He sometimes does things that anger Beijing. One thing that's common between the two, China doesn't fully control North Korea or the Iranians or the Russians. But China does want all three to stay in place because they keep the US on the back foot. And so China's in this weird situation between, on the one hand, they're happy to have us back footed, but to your point, they don't want things to spiral out of control to the extent
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they don't want disorder. But if you're going to tell me that North Korea doesn't do what they're told by Beijing, I'm going to dissent from that.
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We'll have to disagree on that one then.
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Okay. All right. But China made it quite clear to Yang. Yang, you get out of line, you know, launch a missile at somebody or something like that, you're going to get punished militarily by us. And the substructure in North Korea can. They're starving now. Those people are starving now. So they got no card to play. But let's get back to our final question on Iran. So you're a presidential advisor. Okay. And Donald Trump comes back from Beijing and he has no assurance that Xi or anybody else over there is going to help him with Iran. It was all nice. And they're going to announce trade agreements and they're all friends and they're going to have another conference coming up in another month. All of that will happen. But he doesn't have anything concrete to show the American people or the world markets. What do you do? Do you hit them militarily? Do you wait it out? What do you do? If you are advising President Trump, what do you tell him to do?
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That's a great question. So there's really two different American objectives left on the table. One is to eliminate Iran's nuclear program. The other is to open the Strait of Hormuz. The regime in Tehran has made very clear that they have no intention of giving up their nukes. And if the United States goes in and attacks Iran and tries to destroy the nukes militarily, we run the risk that they just get dispersed across the Middle east and come over to the United States and elsewhere through terrorist networks that are a lot harder to track than they are when they're in Tehran. In the meantime, it seems like getting to agreement on opening the Strait of Hormuz is a more near term objective that's actually achievable. The entire global community, everybody but Iran, agrees that the Strait of Hormuz should be open. China has even stated publicly that they agree with that. So if I were advising the President, I would say let's do that first and buy some time to figure out what is a broader array of options on the nuclear program. And given that the regime in Iran is hunkered down and not giving any
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All right, but remember, President Trump has, you know, quite clearly said the reason for all of this is to stop Iran from getting enriched uranium to make a nuclear weapon. And if he backs away from that, he looks weak. Last word.
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I'll just say that from my perspective as an American, I would want the US President to make decisions based on the information he or she has at the time. If that information changes, the decision should change. And just explain that to the American people. I think people would respect a fact based decision if the facts shift over time and there's openness about that.
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Okay. Doctor, very good interview. Thank you for helping us out and hope we can talk again. On the social front, I'm going to use the word social, but it's more of an emotional thing. There are people, as we all know, that are rooting for the United States to lose. And I discussed that with Chris Cuomo last night on News Nation. Go. So if you're an American rooting for your country, you want it to all go our way over there, correct?
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Yes, but I think that it is
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unfair to accuse people of a lack of patriotism.
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That's the implication. So if you don't, if you have
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any implication, I ask if you have concerns about the setup and the factors and bringing over big business guys when you're supposed to be helping the American worker, that means that you want America to lose. I reject that premise. That's all I'm saying. Look, I didn't get into any of that. But it's by implication to a very simple question, right? Simple question is this is the structure. This is what's happening. Do you want your country to win? And you answered appropriately, I believe yes. We'll see. Okay. Now, I don't think Cuomo wants America to lose. I, I don't like the Will C. Business. That's a fallback now for every television moderator. Oh, we'll see. What good does that do? Yeah. All right, fine. It's like at the end of the day, how many of those you're going to have to absorb? Okay. We're not going to see anything. Things will unfold, but we don't know how. But if you're not rooting for America to have a positive outcome from this Beijing meeting, then you're not patriotic. Remember Kenny Rogers, okay? There'll be time enough for counting when the dealing is done, not while it's in the process. Okay, so here I am. I don't know if my arm is long enough to pat myself on the back the way I want to, but this whole thing began on February 28th of this year, this Iranian thing on March 3rd. All right, just a couple of days later, here's what I said. Go. And after the State of the Union, I said, President Trump's speech is going to swing independence over to the Republican side. Now, that might not last. Certainly if Iran goes south, the president's going to have some problems. This is a big gamble on his part. Big. Now, if it turns out like Venezuela, he's going to be a hero, but, boy, he's rolling the dice. Absolutely true. And I told the president that myself. But he is a gambler. He is, you know, willing to take risks. But it's not over. And there's no fat lady singing. Okay. That's why this story is intriguing but frustrating. Okay, these are the food items that you're getting impounded on. Here they are, according to Bureau of Labor stats. Fruits and vegetables, up 6%. Tomatoes just last month, up 15%. Tomatoes, beef, we know the problem, up 15% over the last year. Eggs are up again. Poultry, fish, not a lot. 1.3%. That's not a lot, but it's up. Dairy, not a lot. 0.8%. Coffee, 2%. And then coffee has spiked 18.5% in the last year. Now, if you have money problems, you can get around all that by buying in bulk and going to Costco and all these other places that we have and most other countries don't have. But I wanted to give you that alert. Okay. We are on Iran watch this entire weekend. I don't expect military action that fast, but I think it's coming. Other news, Mayorkas haven't heard that name in a while. Right. So this story is. Alejandro Mayorkas was the Homeland Security chief under Joe Biden. He presided over the open border. Mayorkas did on in 10 to 15 million. Foreign nationalists said, okay, thanks. We're coming in. Mayorgas doesn't do press, but somehow he shows up on a Politico thing. Roll it. There are areas of disagreement within immigration policy and in other areas. But I voiced my, my views. I was very pleased that In June of 2024, we, we took executive action that I thought made reforms that were sensible. If those and that had, and that proved proved successful.
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If those executive actions had been taken
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one or two years earlier, do you think Donald Trump would be the president today? I am not in a position to speculate, but I will tell you that I would be far more better rested and less punched. But what the political guy doesn't ask. Shocking. And it's not really shocking when you know the state of social media is, why did you do it in the first place? What kind of administration crushes the border? Why? For what? Not asked. I mean, that's fifth grade. Okay. Florida plans to close alligator Alcatraz. That's in the Glades. Never a good look. I mean, you don't want to punish. That's what got Pope Leo all bent out of shape, that we were abusing or are abusing migrants, throwing them in the alligator Alcatraz and beating them up and killing them. So that's all changing now. And Florida Governor Ron DeSantis says, oh, the feds aren't doing it. We're just doing it. Okay, fine. No more Alcatraz with the alligators. Alligators. Probably real sad because he was throwing food out in canals to all of these critters. Okay. The migrant thing is a big victory for Donald Trump. But in the aftermath, the more humane you can be, the better at this point in history. But I absolutely would continue the roundups, particularly on the criminal aliens. But be careful. You don't want to throw granny and the alligators. Okay. Back with their supersonic long form this week. I'll tell you all about it in a moment. All right, final thought. Governor Andrew Cuomo joins. We'll do it live tomorrow at C6pm on YouTube. All right. And 12 noon on Billo Reilly.com for premium and concierge members. Another perk. So you get it six hours ahead, and then everybody in the world gets it 6pm so we're very happy to have the governor. I'm surprised we got him, but Chris Cuomo helped out on that. And we got a lot to talk about, a lot to talk about. You don't want to miss this. And that is it for us today. Now I have to go over to Penn Station. Let's see what time it is. I got time. Which a couple of blocks from where we are and then get on the Amtrak, go up the Connecticut coastline, through Rhode island into Back Bay, get off the train, go to the hotel. It's okay. I got lots of work to do. But if the gas prices were what they were two months ago, I'd hop in my car. I'd be there about an hour shorter than taking Amtrak. But Amtrak does a decent job for me. I don't have any complaints from Food is a little. But I smuggle sandwiches on. Which you have to do anyway. Thank you for watching and listening to the no Spin News. I'm Bill O'Reilly News Sunday column. By that time, I hope we have information on Iran. And we are watching throughout the weekend. Remember, ILY is our handle for all of our tweets. I know they don't call them tweets anymore. I don't know what they call them. But stay with us over the weekend because things could happen. And read the column on Sunday. We'll see you again on Monday.