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Bill O'Reilly
Foreign here. Welcome to the no Spin News for Wednesday, October 8, 2025. Stand up for your country. So I'm at Yankee Stadium last night, the Yanks and the Blue Jays playoff game. And before the game, they play the Canadian national anthem because the Blue Jays are from Toronto and some morons in the stands boo more than a few. Wasn't overwhelming, but it was audible. I'm sitting there going, what is wrong with you people? Why would you boo the national anthem of Canada? What good does that do? Canada doesn't have anything to do with us. I mean, yeah, Trump wants to annex it as the 51st state, we know that's not happening. They'll come to some kind of trade deal. The Prime Minister Carney was here yesterday, and, you know, they weren't brawling. So why. Why are you booing the Canadian national anthem? It's disrespectful. And all the people in Canada watching it, you know, come on. It's the same thing when they boo the national anthem, right? So I just sat there and I think foolishness is on the rise in America. It's not as bad as evil, which is why I wrote confronting evil, because that's definitely on the rise, but foolishness is annoying. And then the Yankees won. The game was a very interesting game, by the way. By the way. I'm sorry. Gonna find myself. By the way, his head is now said on news agencies about 30,000 times a day. So I'm sorry to say it anyway. I just want to get that off my chest. Talking points memo is about the brawl in the Senate yesterday. So before former FBI Director James Comey was indicted. We'll tell you about that in a couple of minutes. The Senate Judiciary Committee, that's the big oversight committee, invited Attorney General Bondi to testify about Epstein. And now there's accusations against Tom Holman that he may have taken a bribe. You know, stuff that the attorney general deals with. Now, Ms. Bondi is a smart woman. I had a long conversation with her in September, and she knows the game, that the Democrats on the Judiciary Committee are going to try to use her to embarrass Trump. They don't care about information. They know that any accusation against anybody can't be discussed by the attorney general because we have due process here. You're innocent until proven guilty. Hohmann charged with anything? Is there an investigation? Maybe. Maybe the FBI is looking into it. I don't know. But they're not going to tell you. In case Homan is innocent, why would you besmirch him? So the Democratic senators know that and Pam Bondi knows it. So there's no answer to any question. The Epstein thing is ridiculous. It's just absurd. There are rumors and innuendo and the Attorney General's not going to answer those things. Get mired in that swamp. Who would do that? All right, so Ms. Bondi went into the hearing with written put downs. That's the best word of the senators she knew were going to use these tactics. Roll the tape.
Pam Bondi
Senator, I would be more concerned if I were you when you talk about corruption and money, that you, that when you pushed for legislation that would subsidize your wife's company. You know, Senator Whitehouse, you sit here and make salacious remarks, once again trying to slander President Trump left and right, when you're the one who was taking money from one of Epstein's closest confidence. I believe I could be wrong. Correct me, Reid Hoffman, who was with Jeffrey Epstein on multiple occasions, and the senator sitting right next to you tried to block the flight logs from being released. I wish you love Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently the. The National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will. First, Senator Padilla, you have gone on for over five minutes, and I wish that you loved your state of California as much as you hate President Trump. We'd be in really good shape then, because violent crime in California is currently 35% higher than the national average.
Bill O'Reilly
All right, so it was amusing to watch the put downs and then the replies and all, but did it do anybody any good? Did you learn anything? No. Right? No. It was just like an insult derby. And that's what politics has descended into. Now, the last time that the Justice Department was actually given a referral, a criminal referral from the Senate, was six years ago. So these hearings are just a total waste of time. And they play to the cameras knowing that the Internet and the cables will pick up the stuff, be as outrageous as possible. It's just really. It's wrong. It's just wrong. They're not representing they being on both sides, but mostly the Democrats because they hate Trump so much. And, you know, look, I want some problem solving here. Stop with this nonsense. Let's face it, the US Economy is under stress, national debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free with billions in precious metals delivered. Thousands of 5 star reviews and an A plus from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998-899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text BILL to 9988.
Dwayne Keys
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Bill O'Reilly
The attack on Epstein, Epstein is in. Whenever you hear that name, you know that it's only being used to try to smear and demean Donald Trump. That being said, another cliche. The Justice Department should define what the Epstein thing is. They should tell the American people, this is what we have. This is a conclusion that we've reached. Now, this could change, but that is so simple to do. Take away that club from the radical left. I don't know why the Justice Department doesn't do that. On the other stuff, you know, again, I don't know what Homan did or didn't do, but you don't besmirch him and try to ruin him or on innuendo. And Bondi was right to avoid those questions. And that's the memo. Okay? So the National Guard is on the way to Chicago. The fascinating story. First of facts, Governor Pritzker is the villain here. And I can back that up. So he's been in office for six years. During that time, 4,000 mostly African Americans, 80% have been murdered. And Pritzker has done nothing. What could he do? He could call out the National Guard. Now, President Trump has federalized the Illinois National Guard, so they're going to be called out. But Pritzker could have done that three, four years ago, but he didn't do it. Why not? No one knows, okay? No one knows. 4,000 murdered. Pritzker sits there for six years, does nothing. Now Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, is taking credit for the decline in crime in the Windy City. And that that's a legitimate point that Johnson has. Okay? Johnson is racist in my Opinion. He's blaming everything. Black people is all right, but violent crime has come down a bit since Johnson's been in office. I don't know why. Don't know. Okay, but it has. So acknowledge that fact. But you still the national average of violent crime, Chicago's way above it. Way above it. You can't just say we're not doing anything because crime is coming down a bit. No, you got dead bodies in the street last week, 29 people who shot 29. One weekend wasn't even a holiday weekend. Now we got Columbus Day or Indigenous Day, whatever day coming up. Three day weekend. I mean you probably have 40 or 50 shot. Pritzker. No, Johnson. Oh, it's coming down. All right, fine. So the National Guard, it looks to me like about 500 of them, some from Texas, some from Illinois. And they're going to be protecting ICE agents on immigration raids. That is the reason they're there. And you know, as we reported yesterday, that the Chicago Police Department isn't protecting the ICE agents. We'll play the tape in a moment. You know that and that somebody's got to protect them. If the Chicago cops are. The state troopers aren't going to do it. Who's going to do it? National Guard has to do it. And the Guard is there, to be honest, to tamp down a crime in a poor south side areas where these people, drug gangs are shooting down people at will. Now they're not going to say that because you're not supposed to use the US military to enforce local and state law. They'll say we're protecting ICE agents. So we played this yesterday, but it's worth repeating. Ten cars full of protesters approached three ICE agents on Saturday. A shootout occurred. One of the protesters was shot. Of course the Chicago police knew about it almost immediately and units were on their way to the scene. And then the dispatcher said this. Roll it.
Pam Bondi
And again, per the chief of patrol, we have all the units that. Per 999. Chief of Patrol sud. All units clear out from there. We're not sending anybody over to that location.
Bill O'Reilly
62, we're going to clear out as soon as we can. Spot. We're like locked in over here. So we're going to do the best.
Pam Bondi
We can to get out of here as soon as we can.
Bill O'Reilly
Chief of patrol is a guy named John Hein. H E I N I charge him with obstruction of a federal investigation. Hindering a federal investigation. You can't do that now. He may get off. Okay, due process. He'll have a defense, but I charge him. Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. I'd like to tell you about an important new book, Leland vitters, Born Lucky, A dedicated father, a grateful son. In my journey with autism, Born Lucky gives hope to millions of American parents who have a child with autism, adhd or any developmental disorder. Read Born Lucky today. Good job. Leland Vitter. Let's see another point of view. Joining us from Washington, Dwayne Keys, former U.S. attorney, Western District of Arkansas. He is now practicing with the National Security law firm in D.C. he's a lieutenant colonel in the Arkansas National Guard. So would you charge him, this chief of patrol?
Dwayne Keys
I would probably need a few more facts before I charge him. I definitely see where I see your thoughts, and I agree that there's something needs to be looked into. My number one concern, Bill, is that police were en route. This was not something where, you know, maybe they didn't have the resources or they were responding to a message across that they were going, they were going en route. I would also like to know, I would also like to know, you know, the ICE agents on the ground, did they know police were coming? I mean, were they told, you know, hey, help is on the way? Because if they would have told that, they would have probably acted differently, you know, knowing that that reinforcements are coming and then to pull them out in route, it's extremely disturbing for many reasons. I would like to know exactly this, Mr. Hines, Officer Hines. I'd like to know comments that he made beforehand and afterwards, because obstruction really goes that there's a mental state there that you've got to intentionally be trying to obstruct. His actions seem to indicate that. There's a few more details that I would like. But I will say this, Bill, and even regardless of a criminal, you know, a criminal referral, I think there might be some civil issues here. I mean, you know, there is 4318 USC 1983, which means that, you know, if someone acting under color of state law, you know, violate your rights, you know, they can be sued. I think there might be a lawsuit here. You know, these people had the right to be protected by the police. They had the right not to be fired upon. And here it is. The police had the ability to intervene and chose not to.
Bill O'Reilly
There might be they would have to do that as private citizens. But remember, there was a woman shot. One of the protesters was shot. She's in FBI custody right now. So it's the Chicago Police Department's jurisdiction. And they wouldn't answer a shootout. Well, we got a Bullet, come on.
Dwayne Keys
And I tell you, I want to add to that bill because this is not a question of a state or a municipality saying that we're not going to enforce federal law or we're not going to aid federal law enforcement officers. What you heard in that clip right there is these are, these are state officers, police officers who are refusing to intervene in state.
Bill O'Reilly
But they were ordered, though. They were ordered by their superior. Don't go there. And you know, that guy didn't do it on his own. Okay? That chief of patrol, he's got people above him. The mayor, the police chief, and the police chief tried to say before we got the tape yesterday, counselor, this is just for your information, before we got the tape and we got it almost first. The police chief was, went out and said, oh, no, no, we were answering the call. No, you weren't. No, we weren't. Right. So I think that you're right. There has to be an investigation. FBI should be in there.
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Dwayne Keys
I tell you one other thing, Bill, that bothers me. And as you know, police officers are one of the few individuals, they actually have a duty to intervene when they see a crime happening. You know, you and I as regular citizens, we could walk down the street if somebody is in need of help or whatnot, medical attention, or we can walk right by and we haven't committed a crime, but a police officer, you know, cloaked in that authority has a duty to act, has a duty to respond. And so to have sent them, had the manpower, had the resources, they were in route and then to call them off, I mean, you're now violating state law. So it's just a. Yeah, but.
Bill O'Reilly
The state will never absolutely has to be a federal situation. One final question for you. The Trump administration obviously is moving the Guard into Chicago, Louisiana, Portland, Oregon. But there's a political component to this as well. And the political component is that the President of the United States doesn't want to tolerate anarchy and lawlessness. Will that work for or against the federal government if any cases do go into court?
Dwayne Keys
I think it's going to work for the federal government. I think that the President has the absolute right under the Constitution to federalize National Guard, to send them in to protect federal property. And that's just one aspect of it. Just to protect federal property. Absolutely. But then if the crime gets to the point and if the, the anarchy gets to the point that the President sees the need that he's got to go in there and restore, restore law, he's got, that, he's got that authority to do. There's some, there's some checks he has to go through, but ultimately this has been tested, it's gone through the courts. And the president does have the power, so long as he follows the law and goes through the correct procedure. Yes. He can send the National Guard in to restore, to restore justice, to restore peace and law.
Bill O'Reilly
Right. And Pritzker, the governor and I could have done that years ago, but didn't do it. Nobody knows why. Correct.
Dwayne Keys
Absolutely. And in fact, even, even when the President federalizes the National Guard and sends them in, they can do it in a cooperation agreement. There is, there is a way for, for a cooperation agreement so that Pritzker will still have command and control of the, of the National Guard from his state, but will act in. Act in relationship in cooperation with the federal government.
Bill O'Reilly
President Trump actually asked Pritzker to do that. He requested in writing that Pritzker cooperate with the feds and to get this murder rate under control and to guard ICE agents and federal property. And then Pritzker said no, again, no reason, you know, he. Militarization and all that. All right, Councillor, thanks very much. Appreciate you. Yes, sir. All right, thank you for having me. It's a big story. This is, this is a big story. And now it's in Pam Bondi's hands. Don't be very fascinating to see what the Attorney General is going to do. Comey. All right, so he enters a plea. He didn't show up. His lawyer entered a not guilty plea. He's charged with basically lying to Congress, which was investigating leaks to the New York Times about the phony Russian collusion story. All right, so Comey said he didn't have anything to do with the leaks. His deputy McCabe at first said Comey did know about him, but we can't it. So this is a tough case to prove. If guilty, Comey get five years in prison. That'll never happen. Okay, but he could get convicted. Here's what the Attorney General needs to convict Comey in Virginia. She needs. The prosecutors need at least two FBI agents in the Washington D.C. headquarters to testify against Comey and say, yes, he knew, okay, these leaks were going on and wanted them to happen or did it himself or whatever. That's tough. If they get that, Comey gets convicted. If they don't, and it's hearsay, harder. But in my opinion, and I have nothing to base this on, I don't think President Trump cares. He just wants to put Comey through the ringer. But I could be wrong about that. Now, there is growing anti Trump hysteria. We all know it across the country and talked about it with Sean Hannity on his radio program today. Hannity and I disagree. Hannity thinks that the hysteria is going to grow and grow and get worse and worse and worse. I, I think that we're at a point now, particularly in a Chicago situation, where Americans who are not ideological, who are just regular folks, they vote, but they're not involved emotionally with ideology. They've had enough of this progressive left. They've had enough of the anarchy, enough of the violence, enough, and they're going to turn against the progressive left. That's my opinion, that the progressive left has peaked. And now Pritzker, I think he's through. I think he's done. How that manifests itself, I don't know. But his reputation, my God. Anyway, the hysteria is growing and the progressive left, the leftists, they don't see that they're overdoing it. So I'm gonna run three soundbites, and the first one is Oregon Attorney General Dan Rayfield. Go. He's weaponizing the Department of Justice. He's normalizing the military. He's talking about rigging our elections to maintain power in November. He's talking about cutting down on the free press. This is not America. These are the things you expect in a different country. These are things we cannot tolerate. And again, I say this a lot, but we as Americans cannot allow ourselves to become the FR boiling water. We need to give voice to these issues and push back as often as we can. Well, the frog disagrees. Rigging the election. What do you mean? And the Ms. Now anchor just sits there, doesn't say, well, what do you mean about rigging the election? What does that mean? That's they can say anything they want. Second one. And I'm sorry to inflict this upon you, but it's amusing. Is the View. Go, hey there, it's your buddy Craig Carton. And if you're like me, you could use a timeout from the chaotic news cycle, a pause from the politics, a break from the bedlam. I'm inviting you to join me every day on the Craig Carton show podcast where we tackle the biggest sporting events of the day and give honest, hot takes on and off the field. Sports talk should be fresh, informative and fun. And that's what we deliver every single day. So give your ears a much needed vacation. It's time to tune out the noise and take a break from the non stop news cycle. Subscribe now to the Craig Carton show podcast, available on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music or. Or wherever you get your podcasts. I usually ask potential criminals to have a seat, but now I'm asking you to join me, Chris Hansen, for my new series, have a Seat with Chris Hansen. Guests each week are fascinating personalities who are grabbing headlines, making waves, or changing our lives for the better. Have a Seat with Chris Hansen, available wherever you get your podcasts.
Pam Bondi
There is crime in American cities, but.
Bill O'Reilly
The way to deal with it is get the funding that you need for police, get the training that you need, and work with local officials. This is a pretext to stop the next election. That's what I think it is. I would say it might also be a distraction from the hearing that's going on right now about the Epstein trial. There is no hearing on the Epstein trial. Okay, no hearing. And Behar. Just behar. I would. This is a pretext to stop the next election. And how might that happen, madam? Now they have reached the point of Mad magazine. Remember Mad magazine? Alfred E. Newman Whitney worry. It was a satirical magazine. If you don't know it, Google it. That's what the View is. It's Mad magazine. Now they say just anything. There's hearings on Epstein. No, no hearings because Epstein is Dead and his cohort is in prison. No hearings. There's rumors, innuendo, smears, defamation, all that. Okay, I got a final thought about a fun event coming up tomorrow. Back in a moment. Final thought. Tomorrow, Thursday, October 9th. Right. If you are a premium or concierge member to billorilly.com we will be on the air live at 9 Eastern Time. Josh Hammer and me taking your questions about confronting evil. Gonna be a lot of fun. Now, I'm gonna give you a sample just so you know what we're getting into here. So Robert from Londonderry, New Hampshire, writes to me. There's so much detailed information. Sometimes like you are in the room observing the situation. How did you guys get such personal details about each person and those around them? Well, Hammer is the researcher, so I'm going to kick that over to him. But I can tell you, because I know we don't use secondary sources. That means that most writers, particularly in history, they read other people's books and then they take notes from those books and then they put them in their books. No, no, do that. We do primary source, which means we go right to the site. Now, the biggest break we ever got was the Internet because there are letters and eyewitness reports, criminal reports, all of that now posted on the Internet. You just have to know how to find it. And Hammer will tell you. All right, so for example, when we wrote Killing Jesus, there's very, very little written on the history of the Nazarene. It wasn't like their reporters following them around, spies followed them around. Okay? Roman spies, Pilate, Jewish spies, the temple authorities in Jerusalem. Now, they weren't coordinated because the Romans and the Jews hate each other. But they followed Jesus around because these crowds were so big. When he went to speak, thousands of people. And the spies reported back to Pilate or the Sanhedrin authorities. So when Martin Dugard, who's now out on his own writing his own books, he went to Israel and I convinced the Israelis to let us go into the archives and see the original material. That's why Killing Jesus is such a phenomenal book, not a religious book. That give you a little bit of insight. It's like detective work when you write history from a primary source point of view. You're a detective. You're ferreting out stuff from people who were there, who wrote it down. Letters, okay? Eyewitness testimony in courts, stuff like that. Anyway, that was a very good question from Richard in New Hampshire. We got tons of them. Thursday, tomorrow, October 9, 9 Eastern Time, you got to be a concierge or premium member to join us. Another incentive for you to sign up to the best program in the country, save a ton of money and all of that. You get a free book if you sign up as well. All right. Hope you enjoyed the no Spin news tonight. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.
Host: Bill O'Reilly
Guests: Pam Bondi (via hearing clips), Duane “Dak” Kees (Former US Attorney & National Guard Lt. Col.)
Bill O’Reilly tackles a raucous Senate hearing featuring Attorney General Pam Bondi, the federal deployment of the National Guard to Chicago amid crime and chaos, James Comey’s not guilty plea following his indictment, and what O’Reilly describes as “anti-Trump hysteria” in both media and politics. Legal expert Duane “Dak” Kees joins to break down the National Guard controversy, and O’Reilly scrutinizes the current climate in American politics.
Bondi’s clip highlights her direct finger-pointing at several senators, turning accusations back on them:
O’Reilly complains the hearing, with neither side seeking real answers, fails the public’s interest.
This episode spotlights the deep dysfunction in American political discourse, as illustrated by both theatrical Senate hearings with Pam Bondi and the city of Chicago’s public safety crisis. O’Reilly argues that Democratic politicians weaponize issues to wound President Trump rather than seek solutions, while Bondi’s combative testimony is framed as justified self-defense. The chaotic National Guard deployment is picked apart legally by Duane Kees, who stresses the gravity of police refusing to intervene in violence.
Further, O’Reilly dissects James Comey’s legal troubles, setting modest expectations for outcomes and implying that spectacle, not justice, is the administration's goal. Closing the show, O’Reilly excoriates what he sees as irrational “anti-Trump hysteria” in the media, forecasting a turning tide among average voters rejecting progressive excesses.
Listening to this episode provides a blunt, O’Reilly-style look at political drama, law enforcement controversy, and the temperature of American society, offering memorable barbs, pointed questions, and a stern call for more substance and less spectacle in public life.