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Elon Musk Steps Back From DOGE, Minnesota Sues the Trump Administration, 60 Minutes in Trouble & Clayton Cranford on Cyber Crimes and Online Safety
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No Spin News - April 23, 2025
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Here. Welcome to the no Spin News for Wednesday, April 23, 2025. Stand up for your country. So I'm getting some mail about People, Premium members about the new Tip of the Day program we have for you. And since I'm a Luddite, since I don't know anything about how to do anything on social media, I asked my crack staff to give me a cheat sheet so I can tell you if you are a premium or concierge member. You get all kinds of perks. You get access to almost everything we do. If you're concierge, you get a direct email to me and it's a life insurance policy. If you get into trouble, my crew will help you. I read all the emails, every one of them and we'll come up with some kind of program to help you out. If you want more information, we'll guide you. If you want travel advice, nutrition, whatever it is. So concierge get direct to me. But we have something new and it's called the Tip of the Day. Today's Tip of the Day is about snacks. So I get, I get snack hungry about three in the afternoon. That's when my snack window is. And you know sugar snacks are gonna hurt you. It's like taking a hammer and hitting your hand with it, just eating your sugar. So I lay out what my snack strategy is. And if you use it, you'll not only be healthier, you'll lose weight. So that's the tip of the day. Well, how do you get to the tip of the day? Okay, so if you're premium, you log into your account. If you're on your phone, it's under O'Reilly's recommendations. Okay? And then it's on the right side, the highlights on your computer. And if you don't. Can't get that. It's billoriley.com tipofthedeck so there's three ways you can get it. All right, Everybody got that? And it's worth it. I'm going to do five tips a week. And money, food, politics, not so much sports, but once in a while, that kind of thing. So we hope you become a premium or concierge member to billowrightly.com it will enhance your life. And I wouldn't say that if it wouldn't, but it does. We have a 90% renewal on that 90%. I think the 10% that don't renew have passed away. So anyway, let's get to the talking points memo. Elon Musk, interesting story. So I met him for the first time on St. Patrick's Day and we had an interesting conversation in the Oval Office. And I'm not name dropping, I've already reported this. And he asked me some questions about presentation for the Department of Government Efficiency. And I gave him my opinion and we had a very good, nice conversation. Now he's going to recede from government for a while. Okay, so I knew that was going to happen. Not because of the conversation I had with him. He didn't tell me that. But here's what I said on April 2 on News Nation. Go. What do you think the reality is about why Musk may be getting pushed or whether he's walking away? Well, as I said very early on, Musk is a short timer. It's just too hot. You just can't have a guy that hot. And he did a good job exposing the government ways, bringing it back onto page one. But now the technicians should take over. You don't need Elon to go out and sell it. It's sold. Okay, so yesterday, Mr. Musk put out this statement, quote, starting probably in the next month, my time allocation at Doge will drop significantly. I'll have to continue doing it for anywhere, probably the remainder of the President's term, just to make sure that the waste and fraud that we start does not come back, which it will, if it has a chance. So I think I'll continue to spend a day or two per week on government matters for as long as the President would like me to do so, and as long as it's useful. But starting next month, I'll be allocating far more of my time to Tesla, and he has to do that because Tesla is in Trouble. It lost 19 billion in revenue since Elon Musk joined the Trump administration. 19 billion is a big number, all right. Profits dropped 71% in the first quarter of 2025 and is a 13% decline in global deliveries. And that's before the tariffs even kick in. So Musk, who is the wealthiest man in the world, he doesn't want to see his company dissolve. And then you had the political stuff. So he's paid a huge price, as everybody knows, as the far left has attacked him. I can't quite figure out why they hate him so much, but they do. All right, so on the Doge front, at least $160 billion in waste has been exposed, and that's a fact. Okay? That's not debatable. And government has canceled leases, grants, fraudulent payments, and they made a lot of changes. This comes out to about $1,000 for every American taxpayer that Musk and Doge has saved. That's Pretty good, right? 85 contracts related to DEI have been canceled. Now, that's why the far left hates it, because they love dei. And I'm going to do that tomorrow. Big DEI thing. So write that down. And in addition to the DEI stuff, the far, far left doesn't want any government cuts. Listen to Senator Warren go. When unelected billionaires start ransacking our government offices, this is not business as usual. Nope. Nothing is normal. We are living a nightmare created by Donald Trump and Elon Musk, and we need to wake up. By waking up, she's sending a signal to attack Musk, which people have done by destroying Teslas and other things like that. I hold Warren and Bernie Sanders and AOC accountable for this hatred. I do. They incite it. There's no doubt about it. And here's an interesting question. So we have a $37 trillion debt right in these far left loons. They don't want to cut any of it. I shouldn't say that. They cut the Defense Department. Okay, they do that, but they don't want to do any of the wasteful spending. They want to send money to Myanmar and all of that stuff. But what was President Biden's plan to bring down the $37 trillion debt? What? There was no plan. There wasn't even an effort to come up with a plan. Biden was the biggest spending president in American history. He just wants to spend and spend and spend. They don't care because they buy votes. And then everything that Doge wants to cut. Oh, oh, you're firing this person? This third grader won't get dessert. Or this old woman won't get this. Or won't get. You know, it's easy. It's easy. All right. When you cut, some people are going to be inconvenienced. All right, so sum it up. Doge is a success. You know, look, Elon Musk, you like him, you don't like him. Doesn't matter to me. I think that what he has accomplished is definitely worthy. And that's a memo tariff latest. Now this story got buried. Nobody reported this a bit. You don't know this. Switzerland has announced that is going to invest $50 billion into the USA. Okay. Roche Company, it's a pharmaceutical giant based in Basle. Switzerland is immediately going to start putting plants and things into the usa. This is huge because we need to be self sufficient in pharmaceuticals. We need to have them made in the United States, not in China. Okay? Did you hear this story? No, it got nothing because it helps Trump. But that it's happening and it's pretty damn impressive. Okay? Now Mexico is the first trading partner, largest for the usa. Switzerland is second. We take a lot of stuff from Switzerland, but now it's coming here because of the Roche company. New poll on economics. Reuters. So, so poll. Okay. 4,306 U.S. adults. First question. What share of Americans approve of the President's handling of the economy? Approve. 37%. Disapprove. 51. Second question. What share of Americans approve of the President's job performance? Approve. 42. Disapprove. 53. I rely on physical precious metals like gold and silver to protect my savings. And the only company I trust is American Hartford Gold. A tax advantaged gold IRA can protect your savings from inflation, recessions and more. 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No, you worked hard for that money. I worked hard for the money. I look at, I go now I'm not afraid, but I'm not happy. Okay, tomorrow. Interesting show. White House announces that President Trump will travel to the Middle east in May. It's going to Saudi Arabia, Qatar and United Arab Emirates from May 13 to May 16. Do not be surprised if some Chinese government officials show up there. Don't know for sure, but don't be surprised. He's not going over there just to kind of hobnob with the shakes. Okay. He will be going to Rome, short visit for the pope's funeral on Saturday. All right, here's another story that goes right into your house. And we try to do that here on the no Spin news. Try to make our reportage very relevant to your life. And that's what separates me. I've always done that from all the others who couldn't care less about you. We do care about you. So talker research, pretty Good. Spoke to 2,000Americans about saving money. 67% of Americans say they're not saving enough money. 47%, nearly half, they've given up hope of saving enough money to set themselves up. On average, Americans try to save 500 bucks a month. 77% say they wish they had done things differently in the past, so they had more money now. And I've said this before, I'm going to just briefly say it. When I was a kid, one of the few things that I listened to my father about. Sorry, dad, was you save 10% of all your take home pay. And I always have more if I could. Shoveling snow, cutting lawns, working at Carvel, you name it. No matter how paltry my take home was, I put 10% in the bank. It mounted. It mounted. If you teach your kids that rule, they buy into that. We very, very ahead of the game. But most Americans are having a lot of trouble paying the bills. You know that. But there's always stuff that you can cut out, wasteful spending, unnecessary spending, impulse spending, all of that crazy. Minnesota, man. So I have a pretty good history in Minnesota. Rainy lake up in Boundary Waters. Great place. Okay. Been in Minneapolis, St. Paul a number of times, covered the conventions there. You know, I know the state pretty well. It's now a lunatic asylum. It rivals Colorado, California, Oregon. And I don't really know why the Scandinavian tradition in Minnesota has gone that way. I can't really. If you live there, maybe you can tell me. Latest is that the attorney general, Keith Ellison, fanatical Democrat, is suing the Trump administration over transgender executive orders. So Trump is basically saying there are two genders, male and female. That's it. Okay. We're not letting you put some X on your passport. We're not going to do, you know, give your preference in school. You're not going to get. If you're a guy in a women's locker room. No, that's a Trump administration's posture. Well, they don't like that in Minnesota. So there's suing. Okay. And it's based on the Constitution. It says that this is discrimination on sex based gender, something deluse. But it'll just go on and on and on. In addition to that There is a guy who was arrested in Minneapolis, okay, for desecrating, vandalizing Teslas. His name is Dylan Adams. He works for Minnesota Department of Human Services, okay? He caused more than $20,000 worth of damage, which is a felony. The DA, Mary Moriarty. Let's see, Mary. There's the guy committing a crime. Okay? We got him on tape. All right, so the DA says she's not going to charge him. Not going to charge him. Mary Moriarty, Hennepin County. Who's Mary Moriarty? George Soros. One of George Soros people. Not going to try to put them in a diversion program. No, because damage to other people's automobiles, expensive automobiles, they have to pay. Who's going to pay for that damage, Mary? You know, God Almighty and the sheriff. Even the sheriff is outraged by this. Brian O'Hara, Minneapolis police chief. Not the sheriff. He's a police chief. He goes, the guy committed a felony on tape and you're not charging him? This is lunacy. Minnesota is deep into that lunacy. Media madness. Here's a good story. When I was a young journalist, I watched 60 Minutes every week, okay? Because it was the best. Good investigative reporting, hard hitting, not a lot of ideology. Then when I advanced my career, I became friends with Mike Wallace. Some of you know that he was the guy that influenced me the most about. He's tough, good interviewer. I knew Don Hewitt, who was the founding producer of 60 Minutes. Both Hewitt and Wallace admired. Maybe that word's a little overstated, but they respected, that's a better word, the O'Reilly Factor. Because I was tough and, I don't know, both were liberal men, but they didn't allow the ideology to drive their reportage. I think that's a fair statement. Okay? But then 60 Minutes took a turn. I'll get to that. I was on there twice, featured twice, okay? Both times they treated me very, very fairly. So keep that in mind. I'll play a clip in a minute. The current executive producer of 60 Minutes, Bill Owens, yesterday quit. He said, quote, over the past few months, it has become clear that I would not be allowed to run the show as I always have run it, to make independent decisions based on what was right for 60 minutes, right for the audience, unquote. So always quits. So why? Because cbs, Paramount, wants to sell to a company called Skydance, which is run by the son of Ellison, the billionaire, okay? And that deal has to be approved by the federal government, the FCC. Enter President Trump, who's suing 60 Minutes for $100 billion. Okay? Might be a little much, but that's what he's doing. Trump says that 60 Minutes helped Kamala Harris in violation of election laws in 2024 by editing some of her stuff. And that is a pending lawsuit. Now, keep in mind that in order for Paramount, CBS to sell to Skydance, all right, they got to get FCC approval. And if Trump says to Brendan Carr, the head of the fcc, hey, you're not approving it. He's not approving a deal. Dugging billions and billions of dollars here. So the people who own CBS paramount are watching 60 Minutes saying, you're not going to hammer Trump because 60 Minutes has hammered him. Now, on the Hannity radio program today, I gave Sean a little history. This all began when Leslie Stahl interviewed Donald Trump and refused to acknowledge that the Clinton campaign was behind the phony Russia collusion story. Remember that? The Trump one. Nuts. And Stahl kept going. There's no evidence. There's no evidence. Yeah, there was plenty of evidence. And then the anti Trump stuff on 60 Minutes got worse and worse and worse and worse. So Owens is out now. I thought you would be amused by this. So I was on twice, Mike Wallace with me the first time, and it went very well. The executive producer was Jeff Fager, who was a very fair man, I think. Okay, he was very fair to me. Second one was nine years later. Wow. First one was 2004 with Wallace. And then Nora O'Donnell. September 2013, she began quoting me about my grammar school experience. Roll the tape.
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Nora O'Donnell
Starting in grade school, I disobey the rules, mock those in authority, and brazenly challenge the accepted wisdom. My behavior back then was not much different from what it is today.
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Bill O'Reilly
And ain't America great? I was a little thug, and now I'm getting paid millions of dollars for being a big thug.
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Nora O'Donnell
But you have children. You don't want your children to act like thugs.
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Bill O'Reilly
Sure I do. I want them to challenge the conventional wisdom. I want them to debate. I want them to be honest people, and I want them to develop a. A conscience and to speak out about what they feel is right and wrong. Of course I do.
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Nora O'Donnell
But you weren't challenging conventional wisdom as a kid. You were just misbehaving.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, you can call it misbehaving, and I call it a lively quest for intelligent debate. In the third grade with sister Lorana. Unfortunately, she rejected my request and categorized me as a miscreant. Now, I have to say, I have always respected 60 Minutes. I lament the political nature of the program. And here's something interesting. It began to get political under Barack Obama when Steve Kroft, an excellent reporter, became Obama's best friend.
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Nora O'Donnell
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Bill O'Reilly
Now, in order to be a president's go to guy, you got to be a little light on him, okay? And when Croft would interview Obama, he would give him the benefit of the doubt. It wasn't like me interviewing Obama. I wasn't, I was very respectful to President Obama, but, you know, I was challenged. So that's when 60 Minutes kind of veered into liberal Democrat territory and it has stayed there ever since. And, but I'm not, I don't take any joy on this. I think Trump has really dismantled a lot of the left wing media and he probably happy about this. All right, smart life. I get, I got a letter from a concierge member who lost $200,000 in a scheme on the Internet and is coming to me for help. $200,000. And I read the case, he sent me the case and there was not much I could do. The FBI is this guy's only hope. And whether the FBI is going to help him or not, I'm going to try to encourage that. But I can't force them to do it. The FBI, they got big things going on and this is, 200,000 is a big thing for this guy, but it's not terrorism. Anyway, I don't know. I'm a Luddite. As I told you at the top of the program, I don't deal with the Internet. Nobody gets my private information. I go into Walgreens and they want a phone number. After I give them my credit card and I go, I'm not giving you my phone number. You're not getting anything from me, okay? I don't want this stuff out. And they take my money, of course, but nobody gets any of my private information ever, because there is so much crime on the Internet. Now. Listen to these stats. 2023, the FBI received about 900,000 thousand complaints about crimes on the Internet, losses exceeding $12.5 billion. Okay? California is the worst state. 80,000 complaints, 2 billion in losses. This is all cybercrime, all right? The big thing is phishing schemes. Phishing schemes. Ph. I had no idea what that is. What it is is a type of Internet scam where criminals send you fraudulent emails to try to trick you into revealing sensitive information like your credit card numbers and things like that. Phishing. All right, now my question is always simple. How do you stop this? It was a good article yesterday in the Wall Street Journal by Nicole Nguyen, and we want to get her on tonight. And she was totally disrespectful to us, so she'll never appear on this broadcast. I have to say, the Wall Street Journal in general is disrespectful to our operation. I don't know why, but they are. But we got a better guest. His name is Clayton Cranford, joins us from California. He runs cybersafety cop.com cybersafetycop.com which is solutions to this horrendous problem. Okay, I'm 10 years old now, so you know that, Clayton. I don't know anything. Why? How. This is a better question. How do cyber criminals get to people in the first place? How do they do that?
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Clayton Cranford
Well, if you are in the digital world, if you have an email address, if you have social media, if you have a text, a number that people can text you, you are available, right? You. Your information's out there. And for them, it's a numbers game. They'll just blast these, you know, phishing emails or phishing texts to thousands and thousands of people. And they just need a small percentage of those people to. To take the bait. And that's really what.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, give me an example. Give me an example of debate.
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Clayton Cranford
An example debate. Well, they send you something that is urgent, right?
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Bill O'Reilly
Right.
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Clayton Cranford
They. They want you to panic a little bit, and it could be that, you know, your. Your bank account has been frozen because of fraudulent activity. You must log in here to restore it or something like that. So they. They want you to panic, and they want you to click on that link and it. And it may take you to a website that looks a lot like your bank account, but maybe it's a website that is, you know, spoofing that site, and then you enter your information. Now they have it so that they're really kind of betting on people just emotionally responding to things. And that's maybe the first thing we should say is when you get these things, we need to just stop, take a breath, and carefully read it, because there are some telltale signs that these are. These are phishing emails or text messages.
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay, here's what I do. I never respond to anything that I don't know. Okay? So my bank does not email me or does not text me ever. My insurance doesn't, my lawyer doesn't. And when I get something like that, I just deleted immediately. There's no downside to doing what I'm doing, is there?
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Clayton Cranford
No, that's the right thing to do, because you're right. These institutions do not ask for your personal information. I mean, that is standard. And if you're not sure, you give. Give them a call, go to their.
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Bill O'Reilly
Reliable bank or whatever, has to speak to the bank manager and whatever. But the fact that you're clicking on the fraudulent website, the criminal website, doesn't that give them some access to you?
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Clayton Cranford
Well, it can if it's a link that's executing a application on your. On your computer. I mean, they could install, you know, some spyware on your computer. That's possible, but, you know, it's. It's not difficult for them to do this. This is happening, like you said, at, know, epidemic rates. And. And it's a lot of more elderly people who maybe aren't as Internet savvy, that are often the. The victims of this.
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Bill O'Reilly
But you had. For the guy who lost 200,000, he had to send money. I don't know whether send it PayPal or what, but he had to send these people money, right?
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Clayton Cranford
Yeah. You got to wire them money. You got to send them money. And oftentimes, yeah. Well, they ask you to do it in ways that are a little weird, like, hey, buy some gift cards and send me the numbers for the gift card. So sometimes even when you're doing it, I've talked to victims. They're like, it just seemed weird to me. You need to listen to that voice. When you. When you feel like something's not quite right, you need to hit the brakes and look at it a little bit closely.
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Bill O'Reilly
When you say listen to a voice, isn't most of this done in print?
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Clayton Cranford
Well, yeah, but what, I mean, Is like just when I talk to victims, a lot of times they just have a gut feeling that there's something not quite right. And you should listen to that feeling.
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Bill O'Reilly
Off. I don't understand why people don't, why they engage anyway. It's like when someone calls you on the phone, my line is, I don't do business on the phone. Have a good day. Click. That's it. I'm not doing business on the telephone with somebody I don't know.
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Clayton Cranford
That's an amazing policy. Yeah, absolutely. And like on social media, I have a very locked down private social media account that the only people who get are people I know in real life, like friends and family. And when I get a request from someone I do not know, it's an instant block. And so people do that. They've removed a lot of the lot.
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Bill O'Reilly
All right, so you can do an instant block. And that's what your outfit cybersafetycop.com does. Right. Shows you how to protect yourself.
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Clayton Cranford
Yeah, and we do a lot of education for families with children because a lot of children are being victimized, you know, in other ways online as well.
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Bill O'Reilly
Oh, sure. I mean, there's no doubt about that. Evil is all over the place. Final question for you. When you lose 200,000, even if the guy goes to the FBI and reports the crime, because it's cyberspace, it's almost impossible to catch these criminals. Correct.
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Nora O'Donnell
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Clayton Cranford
That money's being wired overseas and once the money leaves the bank, it's kind of impossible. Often to get it back. If, if you can. If the, if the local law enforcement, their cyber crimes, if they can alert the bank before that money clears, then they, then they can get it back. But once it's gone, Once it's gone, it's gone.
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Bill O'Reilly
And the FBI is I would assume overwhelmed when you have 900,000 of these reported crimes a year. I mean, that's just incredible. Last word.
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Clayton Cranford
Yeah, it's heartbreaking for a lot of people. That's a life savings for someone. And there may not be any chance of getting it back.
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Bill O'Reilly
All right, thank you very much, Gladney. Well, website again is cybersafetycop. One word dot com. All right, say in history. April 23, 1789, George and Martha Washington go to New York City. It's a great story. So Washington wins the election, okay? He's the first president and the capital is in New York City. A lot of people don't even know that Washington D.C. wasn't built yet. And they moved it out of Philly to New York. Okay, so George and Martha come up from their estate, Mount Vernon in Virginia and they move in to a wasn't really lavish little place on 3 Cherry street in Lower Manhattan. The house isn't there, but the address is still there. Okay. And Martha right away hates New York, Hates New York. It's dirty, it's crime ridden, rats, 50,000 people, but it's not like New York. Now all of the people lived in lower Manhattan, all right, what they call the Battery. They didn't live midtown or uptown. That was still woods. So Martha's hawking George. In addition, George has to take over the presidency. Here's some fun facts. So George Washington didn't have any money because he was a general and Congress paid him a little bit. But he had to run this big plantation. He lost money. He didn't have any. He had to borrow money to get a carriage, a horse and carriage to come from Virginia to New York City. So you can imagine that a horse drawn carriage. Once they got to Staten island, they had to go by boat, cross not quite the Hudson river, but the New York Harbor. George got seasick just in the harbor. And then everybody stopped. George and Martha would stop. It took him eight days, I think to get here. Yeah, eight days. So seven nights. There was just mobs of people trying to see them. John Adams did it, the exact opposite. He came from Braintree, Mass. He's a vp. He came down, but same thing when he stopped. And it wasn't quite as long a journey. And Washington was Very nervous on the job because he didn't know what to expect. There wasn't any country. He had to formulate the country. Final thing, Martha said to George, we gotta get out of here. This is New York. So they moved to Philadelphia. They moved the capital of Philadelphia again because, and I know it was Martha going, you better get, you better get me out of here. And then they started. Bill. Washington D.C. john Adams, the VP, was second president, and he spent only a very short time in the new White House. At the end of his first term, he was not reelected. So that's this day in history. George and Martha, they were human beings. Back in a moment. Okay, let us go to the final thought of the day. I was going to go to the Pope's funeral, but I can't because I'm doing two things for News Nation about Donald Trump's first 100 days. So a week from tonight, there'll be a town hall, okay? I will co anchor that town hall. We'll have a big announcement tonight on Cuomo At 8:00, News Nation about the town hall. You're going to want to hear this announcement. Then two days later with Leland Vitterd on NewsNation, it'll be him interviewing me about the strengths and the weakness of Donald Trump's first 100 days. So all of that is in motion and I got to work on it over the weekend, so I can't go. But Rome in the spring, put it on your list. And, you know, obviously the Pope and the respect that you show him comes number one. But just to be in that city in the springtime, you know, once May rolls around, gets a little, little warm. But in April, food is unbelievable. But I lament that I cannot go. I appreciate you very much watching and listening on the radio to the no spin news. We'll see you again tomorrow.