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Episode: Franklin Graham on the Christian Left vs. President Trump and Immigration, Drug Boat Strikes Update, & Bill Visits the White House
Date: December 5, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Special Guest: Reverend Franklin Graham

Episode Overview

In this episode, Bill O’Reilly broadcasts from Washington, D.C., recapping his recent visit to a Trump White House Christmas party and sharing insights from a 40-minute discussion with President Trump. The episode then pivots to current events such as alleged corruption in Ukraine, drug cartel actions in Central America, and controversy over public Christmas celebrations. The centerpiece is a wide-ranging interview with Reverend Franklin Graham examining the Christian left, immigration, the role of the church, and the global persecution of Christians. The show closes with updates on military action against drug dealers and commentary on politics and media.

White House Christmas Party and Discussion with President Trump

[00:14 – 07:10]

• Bill describes attending the first Trump White House Christmas party. He admires the grandeur of the White House and believes Trump intentionally uses the venue to impress foreign dignitaries.
• O’Reilly on the White House’s current state:

  “I’ve never seen a White House in better shape…what Donald Trump has done…he’s made it into a symbol of grandeur. And there’s a psychological reason why he wants heads of state, powerful people…to be very impressed with the United States.” (00:34)

• Shares personal reflections on his journey from humble beginnings to meeting presidents and stresses the distinctiveness of the American story.
• Trump is described as gracious and open during their 40-minute conversation, focusing primarily on Ukraine:
  • The President is hopeful for a Ukraine ceasefire, despite corruption weakening Zelensky.

    “Putin now is reveling in the Ukraine corruption story…Putin’s just watching this. And the President is still hopeful he’s going to get some kind of ceasefire before Christmas.” (01:41)

• Discussion of US-Honduras relations and drug cartel policy:
  • O’Reilly notes that US support for the Honduran president is strategic, aiming for regional alliances, even if it means tolerating corrupt leaders when politically necessary.

    “It’s politics. Now. Do I object to that? Not really. I understand the big picture here.” (04:42)

• O’Reilly insists his role is to inform, not ally with politicians, and highlights Trump’s work ethic and focus on national interest over party.

The War on Christmas & Portland Tree Lighting Controversy

[10:58 – 14:59]

• Critiques Portland’s Christmas tree lighting, now rebranded without the word “Christmas,” and the inclusion of a “pro-Palestinian zealot” speaker.

  “There wouldn’t be any tree if it wasn’t Christmas. You get that? Morons.” (11:32)

• Reads an X (Twitter) post by local David Medina defending the use of “Christmas” in public celebrations.
• O’Reilly claims a renewed “war on Christmas” exists, driven this decade by progressive Christians criticizing conservative immigration stances.

Interview: Reverend Franklin Graham on Christianity, Immigration, and the Trump Presidency

[14:59 – 25:26]

On Immigration and the Christian Left

• Rev. Graham firmly supports President Trump’s immigration policies.
  • “I believe what the president is doing is right. We have a right to get people out of this country that are coming here to do us harm.” (15:01)
  • Graham supports legal immigration but opposes illegal entry and open borders, arguing that the law must be followed.
  • Criticizes liberal churches for aligning with causes like abortion, same-sex marriage, and open immigration:

    “They can do that. But that’s not where I stand…most of the American churches…believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. That’s what the Bible teaches and that’s what I believe.” (15:51)

• Distinguishes the church’s mission (salvation/spiritual focus) from governmental roles (policy/law enforcement).
  • “The churches ought to be about telling people how they can be saved…all these other policies, that’s the responsibility of the United States government.” (16:38)
• Graham and O’Reilly both express support for helping needy migrants in crisis, but oppose an open border.
• Franklin Graham sums up:

  “I want to stand on what’s right and that’s the law.” (18:19)

• O’Reilly suggests there are multiple Christian perspectives on immigration, including those favoring a more humane approach.

On Global Christian Persecution and Samaritan’s Purse

• Discussion of President Trump’s criticism of Nigerian authorities for failing to protect Christians and threat of US intervention.

  “My hat go off to President Trump. Thank you for standing up for Christians. No other president has ever done that, Bill. No one.” (21:10)

• Graham details Samaritan’s Purse’s work in Nigeria and other difficult regions:
  • Explains working with both Muslim and Christian communities, advocating for universal aid but transparent about Christian identity.

    “When we work in a country, we don’t differentiate…we help everybody…we want everyone that we help to know that God loves them.” (22:34)

• Outlines dialogue efforts with Muslim leaders, and pressures for more secular, inclusive education in places like Iraq to stem Christian emigration.
• Graham’s core message:

  “The world is a mess. No question…But the only one who could put this back together is God himself.” (24:00) “Christmas is about God giving the first gift. His son, Jesus Christ…He came for the purpose of taking our sins.” (24:23)

How Listeners Can Support Samaritan’s Purse

• Visit samaritanspurse.org
• Graham notes the organization’s large fleet, including planes used for aid logistics.

Drug Cartel Boat Strikes Update

[25:30 – 30:54]

• O’Reilly recaps congressional questioning of Admiral Frank Bradley about recent US strikes on drug-running boats in the Caribbean.
  • There was no targeted “kill order”—just efforts to disable vessels used by “heavily armed drug smugglers.”
• Bipartisan War Powers Resolution proposed by lawmakers to restrict military action against cartels is considered unworkable by O’Reilly:

  “If you have to move against terror organizations, you gotta move when you can. You can’t be going to the Hill and say, can I do this?”

• Criticizes television pundits for allegedly excusing cartels, sarcastically citing claims that smugglers could merely be “fishermen.”

  “Just be fishermen. Jim…You think they’re regular fishermen?” (28:37) “How in God’s name would you know that? This is all classified information U.S. intel gets about the cartel smuggling routes. How would Rachel Maddow know?” (30:11)

Political and Media Commentary

[31:27 – 32:52]

• Discusses D.C. mayoral politics and surge of support for Democratic Socialists, noting the irony of socialist rhetoric in wealthy neighborhoods.
• Pew Research data: only 36% of Americans now follow the news closely, down from 51% in 2016.

  “Because the news industry is corrupt. You can’t trust it. Thank God we’re independence, right?” (32:52)

Final Thoughts: Christmas Preparation

[32:52 – End]

• O’Reilly offers practical holiday planning advice:
  • Start gift shopping early
  • Send cards and greetings—advocates for physical cards over texts/emails
  • Plan social schedule for visits and gatherings
  • “If you want your Christmas to be calm and bright…gotta move it.” (34:06)

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “I’ve never seen a White House in better shape…what Donald Trump has done…he’s made it into a symbol of grandeur.” – Bill O’Reilly [00:34]
• “Putin now is reveling in the Ukraine corruption story…Putin’s just watching this. And the President is still hopeful…for a ceasefire before Christmas.” – Bill O’Reilly [01:41]
• “There wouldn’t be any tree if it wasn’t Christmas. You get that? Morons.” – Bill O’Reilly [11:32]
• “I believe what the president is doing is right. We have a right to get people out of this country that are coming here to do us harm.” – Franklin Graham [15:01]
• “They can do that. But that’s not where I stand…most of the American churches…believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. That’s what the Bible teaches and that’s what I believe.” – Franklin Graham [15:51]
• “My hat go off to President Trump. Thank you for standing up for Christians. No other president has ever done that, Bill. No one.” – Franklin Graham [21:10]
• “Christmas is about God giving the first gift. His son, Jesus Christ…He came for the purpose of taking our sins.” – Franklin Graham [24:23]
• “How in God’s name would you know that? … How would Rachel Maddow know?...It wasn’t verified. My God, it’s so stupid. It’s stunning.” – Bill O’Reilly [30:11]
• “Because the news industry is corrupt. You can’t trust it. Thank God we’re independence, right?” – Bill O’Reilly [32:52]
• “If you want your Christmas to be calm and bright…gotta move it.” – Bill O’Reilly [34:06]

Key Takeaways

• O’Reilly maintains a critical but supportive stance on Trump, highlighting foreign policy concerns and domestic political strategy.
• Reverend Franklin Graham draws a sharp line between conservative and liberal Christian values, firmly backing Trump’s policies while emphasizing the humanitarian mission of the church.
• The episode critiques progressive positions on immigration and Christmas, accuses mainstream media of ignorance or malice, and decries public disengagement from quality news.
• O’Reilly provides actionable advice for readers/listeners to prepare for the holidays, framing Christmas as not just a religious occasion, but a culturally embattled one.

For a deeper dive into Franklin Graham’s work, visit samaritanspurse.org. For further commentary and analysis, see Bill O’Reilly’s column at BillOReilly.com.