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Episode: Minnesota Fraud: How Far-Left Leadership Enabled a Somali Scandal — Richard W. Painter Weighs In, Marjorie Taylor Greene Bashes Trump on 60 Minutes, & Coast Guard Scores Record Drug Bust
Date: December 9, 2025
Host: Bill O'Reilly
Featured Guest: Richard W. Painter, law professor, University of Minnesota
Episode Overview
In this episode, Bill O’Reilly takes a deep dive into the massive taxpayer fraud scandal in Minnesota, discussing how state leadership and lack of oversight contributed to a billion-dollar scheme largely involving members of the Somali community. O’Reilly is joined by Richard W. Painter to dissect accountability at the state and federal level. The episode also covers recent media events—Marjorie Taylor Greene’s criticism of Trump on “60 Minutes,” commentary on media hypocrisy, and a record-setting drug bust by the U.S. Coast Guard, with further reflection on America’s role on the global stage and attitudes towards the U.S. in Europe.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Talking Points Memo: Minnesota Fraud Scandal
[01:52–12:14]
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Outline of the Scandal:
- O’Reilly introduces the “disturbing story” of a billion-dollar taxpayer fraud in Minnesota, primarily implicating members of the Somali community.
- Under the Biden administration, “trillions of dollars flowed into communities all over the United States during the COVID years. They were unregulated. The money was not watched by feds or State. That’s on Biden’s watch.” [03:06]
- Three main fraudulent schemes, notably under the “Feeding Our Future” program, allowed criminals to divert government aid into private pockets.
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Accountability and Demographics:
- “A billion dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A billion dollars.” [04:38]
- 87 people are charged, 61 convicted (federal charges); “79 of the 87 Somalis, according to The Hill newspaper…” [05:36]
- Minnesota is described as “very liberal,” with “Democrats control the Senate... attourney general is a Democrat… House is Republican. But nobody knew about this for years and years…” [05:41]
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Political Reactions and Media Coverage:
- O’Reilly reads a Wall Street Journal quote attributing Democrats’ lack of acknowledgment to reliance on welfare for their “political business model.” [06:18]
- Minnesota spends “$46,000 per welfare recipient” [07:14], second only to Massachusetts in means-tested entitlement spending.
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Defending the Somali Community:
- Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan passionately defends the Somali community against Trump’s criticism: “You're disgusting… I just watched the video of Donald Trump attacking the beautiful Somali community that calls Minnesota home. They are part of the fabric of our state.” [08:38]
- O’Reilly: “But you don’t care about a billion dollar grift. Apparently you don’t care at all, do you? What have you done about it? Nothing.” [09:05]
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Media’s Role in Uncovering the Fraud:
- “This would still be going on if not for two reporters… They broke the story. Not Minnesota law enforcement, not federal law enforcement.” [09:23]
2. Interview: Richard W. Painter’s Analysis
[12:14–18:44]
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Painter’s Key Take:
- “We have an incompetent governor, Tim Walz, and an incompetent Lieutenant Governor, Peggy Flanagan. They’re responsible. They were overseeing these agencies. They’re just handing out money, no questions asked to criminals.” [12:19]
- Painter notes only a small percentage of the Somali community was involved but underscores lack of governmental oversight.
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Comparison to Massachusetts:
- “Massachusetts… hands out a lot of money, but we haven’t heard about anywhere near as much fraud… the government has been a lot more responsible.” [13:13]
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Motivations and Political Partisanship:
- Painter: “He wants power and he doesn’t care.” [14:20]
- O’Reilly pushes further on why voters keep re-electing such leadership; Painter points to uncompetitive Republican Party candidates.
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Community Responsibility Discussion:
- O’Reilly presses on Somali community silence: “I haven’t heard anybody in the Somali community speak out against this, have you? … Not one person at 100,000 say I’m ashamed. And we Somalis aren’t like that.” [17:17]
- Painter: “We can either fight the mafia or we can blame it on all the Italians. The real answer is to fight the Mafia.” [18:24]
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On Ilhan Omar:
- Painter criticizes Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar: “She is an incompetent Congress[woman]. But she’s also anti Semitic. And we’ve all known that… She should never have been nominated for that seat.” [17:43]
- Both agree local activism against corruption from within the Somali community appears minimal.
Memorable Quote:
Richard Painter: “This was something that I don’t think should be blamed on the Somali community. At least be blamed on the criminals in the Somali community who took advantage of the Somali community and on the governor of Minnesota, Tim Walsh, the lieutenant governor, Peggy Flanagan, both of them in cop.” [16:59]
3. Media Madness & Marjorie Taylor Greene on 60 Minutes
[20:17–25:00]
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Media Critique:
- O’Reilly draws distinction between commentators and reporters: “He wasn’t suggesting that he was lying in his commentary. Has anybody with an IQ over 50 would know. But this is what it is.” [22:02]
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Selective Media Coverage:
- O’Reilly claims networks routinely exclude pro-Trump voices unless they become critical of him.
- On Marjorie Taylor Greene’s “60 Minutes” appearance: “Once she got away from that and started criticized Trump. Oh, yeah, Marjorie, come on in.” [23:33]
Notable Exchange:
60 Minutes: “Is there in that [Trump] support fear?... Does the support come about because they’re afraid they’ll get death threats?” [23:41]
Marjorie Taylor Greene: “I think they’re terrified to step out of line and get a nasty Truth Social post on them. Yes. And they’re watching what happened to you? Yes. Behind the scenes, do they talk differently? Yes. How? Oh, it’s. It would shock people.” [23:49–24:16]
- O’Reilly’s Reaction:
- Downplays Greene’s importance as a “fringe player” and sees her new anti-Trump stance as opportunistic: “She gets on 60 minutes or does whatever she wants to do.” [24:27]
4. Drug Bust by US Coast Guard
[25:00–28:06]
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Significance:
- Recent interdiction of 20,000 pounds of cocaine is “largest at sea interdiction since 2007.” [26:57]
- O’Reilly explains difference between Coast Guard and DEA operations regarding drug smuggling.
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Consumer Blame:
- O’Reilly blames the domestic drug demand: “If you buy illegal narcotics, you are hurting your country and rewarding evil. Evil people.” [27:16]
- Argues for a public awareness campaign to match the scale of the problem: “We consume... more narcotics than any other nation on earth by far, because we got the money, and we don’t have the ethical willpower to stop it, do we?” [27:56]
5. America’s Global Perception & European Attitudes
[28:06–31:19]
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Trump Administration’s Foreign Policy View:
- O’Reilly summarizes the administration’s critical take on Europe as “a declining power that has ceded authority to the EU.” [28:50]
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European Poll Data:
- Shares results of a Euro bazooka poll, noting low percentages of Europeans considering America a “friend.” (e.g., Belgium: 7% friend, 62% enemy. Poland is the outlier.) [29:11]
- Attributes European anti-American sentiment to predominance of state-controlled, left-leaning media.
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Personal Reflection:
- O’Reilly: “Is this a big deal about Europeans not thinking we’re friends? No. It’s not. You know, without us, Europe is at the mercy of Putin.” [31:19]
Notable Quotes & Timestamps
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Bill O’Reilly:
- “America, I think it’s fair to say, remains a bit unsettled.” [01:12]
- “A billion dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A billion dollars.” [04:38]
- “If you criticize the Somali community, who is obviously behind most of them this fraud, you get branded a racist.” [08:05]
- “This would still be going on if not for two reporters… They broke the story. Not Minnesota law enforcement, not federal law enforcement.” [09:23]
- “I haven't heard anybody in the Somali community speak out against this, have you?” [17:17]
- “She [Marjorie Taylor Greene] gets on 60 minutes or does whatever she wants to do.” [24:27]
- “If you buy illegal narcotics, you are hurting your country and rewarding evil. Evil people.” [27:16]
- “Is this a big deal about Europeans not thinking we’re friends? No.” [31:19]
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Richard W. Painter (Guest):
- “We have an incompetent governor, Tim Walz, and an incompetent Lieutenant Governor, Peggy Flanagan. They’re responsible. They were overseeing these agencies. They’re just handing out money, no questions asked.” [12:19]
- “He [Walz] wants power and he doesn’t care.” [14:20]
- “We can either fight the mafia or we can blame it on all the Italians. The real answer is to fight the Mafia.” [18:24]
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Peggy Flanagan (Minnesota Lt. Governor, quoted):
- “You’re disgusting. And the people of this country deserve so much better. I just watched the video of Donald Trump attacking the beautiful Somali community that calls Minnesota home. They are part of the fabric of our state.” [08:40]
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Marjorie Taylor Greene (on "60 Minutes"):
- “I think they’re terrified to step out of line and get a nasty Truth Social post on them. Yes. And they’re watching what happened to you? Yes. Behind the scenes, do they talk differently? Yes. How? Oh, it’s. It would shock people.” [23:49–24:16]
Additional Segments
- Media as Gatekeeper: O’Reilly criticizes mainstream media’s selective coverage of dissenting voices and underscores hypocrisy regarding those who break with Trump.
- Personal Note & Sign-off: O’Reilly encourages organization for the holiday season, touting personal discipline as key to a successful Christmas. [31:19–32:50]
Summary in Brief
This episode confronts the explosive story of Minnesota’s billion-dollar welfare fraud, with O’Reilly and Painter criticizing state leaders for lax oversight and exploring the intersection of ethnicity, immigration, and political partisanship. Media patterns and the narrative surrounding Trump loyalty are dissected via Marjorie Taylor Greene’s mainstream media appearance. O’Reilly highlights America’s consumption-fueled narcotics problem following a major Coast Guard bust, and closes with discussion of European-American relations, ultimately framing U.S. global leadership as essential despite waning popularity abroad.
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