NEW: O'Round the World - February 1, 2026

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Podcast: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis
Episode: NEW: O'Round the World - February 1, 2026
Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Bill O'Reilly
Guests/Contributors: Sid Rosenberg, John Catsimatidis (“John Katz”), Stephen A. Smith, Chris Cuomo, Katie
Episode Theme:
A deep-dive, multi-guest discussion of recent immigration-related unrest in Minneapolis, the political and legal fallout, law enforcement responses, media coverage, alleged foreign interference, and the broader implications for American governance and unity.

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Episode Overview

This wide-ranging episode centers on the violent unrest in Minneapolis, which resulted in two American deaths, and dives into the roles of state/local officials, law enforcement, the federal government—and the media—in the ongoing conflict over immigration enforcement and so-called “sanctuary” policies. Key threads include O’Reilly’s argument that Minnesota is in a state of rebellion against federal law, the debate over what truly constitutes “insurrection” (contrasting Minnesota with January 6), revelations of foreign funding for protest movements, and heated debates with media figures Christopher Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith. The discussion further critiques U.S.-EU relations, late night media culture, and the future for right-leaning broadcast voices.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Minneapolis Unrest and Policing (00:00–07:45)

• Bill O’Reilly’s Introduction and Concerns (00:00–04:03)
  • O’Reilly expresses distress over the deaths of two Americans in Minneapolis linked to immigrant protests.
  • Criticizes both partisan ideologues and failures in local law enforcement leadership.
  • Claims the Minneapolis Police Department is hamstrung by “separation ordinances” that bar cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
    • Quote: “In Minneapolis, the police have been ordered by an ordinance... not to cooperate with the federal government on anything but what O'Hara does in that interview... is, ‘Oh, it's not the cops.’” – Bill O’Reilly (02:13)
  • Critiques local police chief Brian O’Hara for misleading the public, alleging his position depends on compliance with “radical left” city leadership.
• Media & Accountability (04:03–07:45)
  • Accuses national media, especially Margaret Brennan and CBS, of ideologically skewed reporting, failing to challenge official narratives.
  • O’Reilly pledges to invite Chief O’Hara for a direct interview.

2. Insurrection or Individual Action? Minnesota vs. January 6 (07:46–19:00)

• O’Reilly’s Definition of Rebellion (07:46–13:25)
  • Argues that Minnesota officials—Governor Tim Walz, Mayor Jacob Frey, AG Keith Ellison—are openly refusing to enforce federal law, asserting this as a “rebellion” or “insurrection.”
  • Contrasts this with January 6, which he frames as a “breakdown of individual emotion,” not organized, state-led insurrection.
    • Quote: “It was individual emotions, not elected people. They weren't rebelling against the election... There wasn't somebody in elected office saying... ‘We're going to storm the Capitol.’” – Bill O’Reilly (12:19)
• Legal and Historical Analogies (13:25–15:45)
  • Draws parallels with pre–Civil War Southern states’ defiance of federal authority.
  • Argues state/local authorities are legally obligated to obey federal law, regardless of sanctuary ordinances or political beliefs.
    • Quote: “If you’re a state or local, you have to obey the federal law. ...It’s the Constitution.” – Bill O’Reilly (13:46)
• Potential Legal Ramifications (15:45–19:00)
  • Suggests Mayor Frey could be charged with conspiracy; mentions upcoming federal subpoenas.

3. Political and Media Reaction (19:01–26:55)

• Dialogue with Sid Rosenberg & John Katz (19:01–26:55)
  • Broad agreement that the media misrepresents the story, stokes division.
  • John Katz claims that foreign and domestic money is fueling unrest, with European and Chinese financial interests seeking to “polarize the US Dollar.”
    • Quote: “I don’t care if you’re a Democrat, Republican, or Independent—America comes first... Do we want immigration? Yes, but we don’t want invasion.” – John Katz (21:53)
  • O’Reilly notes pro-immigrant agitation in Minneapolis is supported by funds traced back to China.
    • Quote: “We trace money paid to agitators... to Shanghai, China. ...this is a very, very important story because it’s not what it appears to be.” – Bill O’Reilly (17:38)
  • The group laments the decline of US-EU relations and criticizes European leaders for alleged weakness or ungratefulness toward American aid and defense.

4. Satire, Media Critique, and Late Night TV (32:43–36:04)

• Comic relief as late night TV and prominent hosts are ridiculed for being overtly partisan and humorless.
  • Quote: “Late night TV is over in the United States. All of them done.” – Stephen A. Smith (34:08)

5. Foreign Interference & Neville Roy Singham Story (37:01–48:53)

• Unpacking the Neville Roy Singham Case (37:01–48:53)
  • O’Reilly, Stephen A. Smith, and others discuss Neville Roy Singham: a US-born, Shanghai-based billionaire tech entrepreneur linked to Communist funding of radical movements in America.
    • Quote: “He is funneling millions... to these radical organizations who are then agitating professional people, Communists mostly... to go in and foster rebellion.” – Bill O’Reilly (46:29)
    • Asserts a clear line from Singham’s funds (with alleged knowledge/support of the Chinese regime) to unrest in Minneapolis through various activist groups.
    • Strongly criticizes corporate media for ignoring the foreign influence angle.
    • Quote: “This is a lot worse than George Soros... because the Beijing Communist government is in bed with this guy.” – Stephen A. Smith (39:23)

6. Insurrection Act Debate & Federal Response (48:54–66:00)

• Trump, Insurrection, and Presidential Response
  • O’Reilly argues for immediate federal intervention, particularly FBI investigations, and accuses state leaders (Walz, Frey) of violating federal criminal statutes.
  • Pushes back on the view that Trump is “backing down.” Sees current administration as trying to “defuse” and avoid further escalation, while still enforcing the law.
    • Quote: “He’s not backing down. He’s trying to defuse. ...There is a man in Shanghai, China... funneling millions of dollars into the U.S. to try to destroy the government.” – Bill O’Reilly (46:29)
• Heated Exchanges with Chris Cuomo (56:15–66:31)
  • Cuomo challenges O’Reilly’s use of the term “insurrection,” arguing that local officials aren’t organizing violent resistance to overthrow the federal government, and that the Minneapolis unrest is largely organic.
  • O’Reilly insists that refusal to enforce federal law—or to protect federal agents—is rebellion by the letter of the law.
    • Quote: “Their obligation is to obey federal law. They took an oath, both of them, to uphold the laws of the land. And federal law supersedes state and local law.” – Bill O’Reilly (72:51)
  • Discussion of political “lawfare” and concerns about selective prosecution.

7. Broader Context: Right-Wing Media, U.S.-Europe, and Public Perception (66:32–78:30)

• O’Reilly Reflects on the Media Environment
  • Praised as a rare “straight talker.” Laments the decline of “common sense” and media skew.
  • Stresses the need for factual, transparent communication about government action—especially during crises.
  • Concerns that the liberal tilt of major networks leaves conservative/independent platforms marginalized.
• Debate on Threats to Democracy (69:46–76:00)
  • Stephen A. Smith argues neither Minneapolis unrest nor January 6th is a true threat to democracy in itself, but both represent collective behavioral breakdowns.
  • O’Reilly: enforcing federal law isn’t optional for states/cities—failure equals subversion.

8. The Need for Clarity, Accountability, and De-escalation (78:31–end)

• Emphasis on Communication & De-escalation
  • O’Reilly and guests agree: The Trump administration must not only enforce laws but communicate clearly and calmly, appointing visible, trustworthy spokespeople.
  • Reiterates need for evidence-based investigations (including ICE and protester conduct).
  • Warns that if officials like Frey are charged, “all hell will break loose,” but also says not prosecuting illegality may be equally damaging.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “In Minneapolis, the police have been ordered by an ordinance... not to cooperate with the federal government on anything but what O'Hara does in that interview... is, ‘Oh, it's not the cops.’” – Bill O’Reilly (02:13)
• “It was individual emotions... not elected people. They weren't rebelling against the election... January 6th was not organized by elected officials.” – Bill O’Reilly (12:19)
• “If you’re a state or local, you have to obey the federal law. ...It’s the Constitution.” – Bill O’Reilly (13:46)
• “It’s a rebellion against the federal government—and... not denied... they are disobeying federal law and that is a crime.” – Bill O’Reilly (10:45)
• “This is a lot worse than George Soros... because the Beijing Communist government is in bed with this guy.” – Stephen A. Smith (39:23)
• “Their obligation is to obey federal law. They took an oath, both of them, to uphold the laws of the land. And federal law supersedes state and local law.” – Bill O’Reilly (72:51)
• “Late night TV is over in the United States. All of them done.” – Stephen A. Smith (34:08)
• “The only way we do that is because of the folks. They, they made it possible... people who are authentic.” – Bill O’Reilly (29:28)

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Timeline of Noteworthy Segments

• 00:00–07:45: Minneapolis, law enforcement, and media failure
• 07:46–19:00: “Insurrection” definitions: Minneapolis vs. January 6
• 19:01–26:55: Media reaction, foreign money, U.S.-EU and Canada relations
• 32:43–36:04: Satire, media critique, late night TV
• 37:01–48:53: Neville Roy Singham’s Chinese connection, foreign-funded protest
• 48:54–66:00: Federal response, Insurrection Act debate, fiery Cuomo debate
• 66:32–78:30: Right-wing media landscape, threats to democracy, broader concerns
• 78:31–end: Calm communication, need for de-escalation, calls for accountability

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Tone and Style

The episode is direct, combative, and impassioned—marked by O’Reilly’s unapologetic, opinionated tone. Interactions with Chris Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith are intense and adversarial, but occasionally respectful and collaborative. Frequent references to historical precedent reflect O’Reilly’s self-styled role as a historian-commentator. Throughout, the show is highly critical of left-leaning politicians, mainstream media, and foreign influence—while urging law-based, transparent governance and better public communication.

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Summary for New Listeners

In this episode, Bill O’Reilly frames the Minneapolis unrest as a test case for American federal authority, accusing state officials of insurrection, hammering the sanctuary city/federal cooperation divide, and calling for national media and government accountability. The show spotlights the overlooked role of foreign (notably Chinese) funding in American activism, debates what qualifies as rebellion, and stresses the need for honest, temperamentally moderate leadership and reporting. The result is a sweeping, often contentious but never dull, look at the intersection of law, politics, media, and national identity.

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

Foreign Bill O'Reilly here. Let's get started. Unfortunately, we're speaking about Minnesota, Minneapolis, two dead Americans and very distressing. I think most fair minded people don't want any of this, the ideologues divided into political stuff. But it's really, we want to get immigration under control. We want the bad guys to be rounded up. We don't want dead protesters. And we go through that and we go through it in a very fair way. But what disturbs me is the law enforcement in Minneapolis. Now, my grandfather was an NYPD. Okay. He was a war hero in World War I. He came back, signed up. 20 years on the force here in New York. And I respect law enforcement. Everybody knows that. I got plaques all over the place. I'm a big law enforcement booster because I understand what they do and what they're up against. Not a blind booster. I'm a big booster. Now, you got a guy in Minneapolis running the PD there. His name is Chief Brian o'. Hara. He's a Jersey guy and he looks to be a very honest guy. He worked his way up in the Newark Police Department and now he works for radical leftists. So if he doesn't toe the radical left line, then he's not going to be police Chief. So unfortunately, Mr. O' Hara is doing that. He's not telling the American people what is actually happening in his city, Minneapolis. He's not telling them. He is misleading. Roll the tape.

[Katie]

The vice president and Secretary Noem said Minneapolis is uniquely chaotic, but they also pointed to some sanctuary city policies and said that if those policies weren't in place, these are policies that prohibit you from assisting federal immigration operations, that none of this would really be happening. How do you respond to that claim that because of these sanctuary city policies you are being forced into this position?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, there's policies and laws that have been the case here for decades and it's not on the Minneapolis police department or local law enforcement, you know, to hand folks over that are in jails. The city police do not operate a jail that's at the county level and the prisons are at the state level. So we are complying with the law as we have been for many years. And I don't know what else could possibly be asked of this very, very, you know, understaffed and overstretched police department. No, they're not. Okay. If ICE issues a detainer, then your force is obligated under law to detain whatever the federal government wants, detained whomever. And then when I show up, you hand it to them that's federal law. But in Minneapolis, they don't recognize that law. They recognize something called separation ordinance. Okay? This is a local law that basically says no cops can cooperate with federal on any immigration issue whatsoever. Nothing. Zero. Now, Harris should have said that, because that's exactly the truth. In Minneapolis, the police have been ordered by an ordinance, local ordinance, not to cooperate with the federal government on anything but what o' Hara does in that interview. All right, On Face the Nation with the very liberal Margaret Brennan, who doesn't know enough to challenge the chief and couldn't care less. Okay? What he says is, oh, it's not the cops. We can't tell the jails and the prisons what to do.

[Katie]

Bull.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Bull. The police have jurisdiction. They can walk in and take a prisoner who has a warrant by the federal government. Every police department in the country can do that. But o' Hara says we. Oh, we can't. It's the jails that are responsible. The jails aren't responsible. You see? And there's Margaret Brennan like this. Why. Why is she on that program? Why? She doesn't know. I. I will submit that she doesn't know what the separation ordinance is in Minneapolis. She doesn't know. And her producers don't, like. My producers do. Don't give her the information so she cannot digest it. Because in Margaret's mind, what she wants is to do a sympathetic interview with Chief o' Hara to make the federal government look bad. That's what Margaret wants. Because Margaret is an avowed liberal woman, which is fine. She has a total right to be an avowed liberal woman. But she is not practicing her profession the way she should. She's a journalist. That overrides the liberal woman part of it, or should, but it doesn't in America. Now let's get back to o'. Hara. Now, if o' Hara would face me, and I'm going to put in a call to him for next week, I would be gentle on a chief. I wouldn't attack Chief. And we're going to try to get him on, okay? On billoriley.com no spin news. You know, my new YouTube channel is enormous, but we have other, you know, linear stuff that we do all over the world. So the chief is there and I'm here, and we're interviewing, and I go, chief, why didn't you explain what the separation ordinance is? Why. Why did you ignore that and try to blame the Minneapolis jailers and the state of Minnesota prisoners for the problem when you know that's not true? You know, if you sent your cops into a jail in Minneapolis and handed over a criminal migrant to the feds. You get fired by the mayor, Jacob Fry, you know that, correct? I'd like to hear what the chief had to say about that, wouldn't you? But you're not going to get that. O' Hara go to every left wing outlay, can go where he knows he won't be challenged, and he can say the most ridiculous stuff on earth. It's a jail's fault, not our fault, the jail fault. Come on. This happens over and over. And not just o'. Hara. I'm picking on o' Hara because he's in the news cycle right now. This is everywhere. And they're the journalists. The journalists are the last line of defense. They're the ones that are supposed to be saying, well, wait a minute here. That's not really what the situation is about. All right? The cliche is gaslighting that you create a false scenario and you sell it to the public, which happens so much in journalism today, it's shocking because it's all about ideology, in my opinion. I could be wrong because I don't know the man. Brian o' Hara is making a nice living as the police chief of Minneapolis. He's not going to go up against what he's ordered to do because he wants the paycheck, okay? He's not going to say, hey, I'm sorry, Mayor, I'm not going to go out there and mislead anybody. He's not going to do it. I wish he would. I do it if I were him, but he's not. And this is now the norm. So I got a provocative letter. It said, Look, O'Reilly, you're saying that an insurrection in Minneapolis against federal government was January 6th, an insurrection. And I said, well, that's a good question, really is, and here is the answer. The reason that Minneapolis is a rebellion against the federal government and it's not denied people Walz, the governor of Minnesota, Frye, the mayor of Minneapolis. They're not denying that they are disobeying federal law and that is a crime. They're also not denying that they will not protect federal agents carrying out legitimate law, immigration law. They won't protect them that has led to violence and chaos and to deaths. If the Minneapolis police and the Minnesota State Police would insert themselves between the protesters and ICE agents carrying out raids that the protesters couldn't get there, couldn't get that close. And that's the reason so many feds have been surged in, because the state and the local cops will not help to the extent that the radicals, who are paid and organized, attacked a hotel owned by Hilton where the ICE agents were staying and wrecked it. And the Minneapolis police didn't even show up, made no arrests. Come on. All right, so this is an insurrection. It's basically in Minnesota, very small state, five and a half million people. The governor and the mayor of the largest city are saying to the people, you don't have to obey this law. You don't have to obey federal law. If you want to throw stuff at, I said, you go ahead, because we're not going to stop you. We're not going to protect them. That's organized. Okay? The attorney general, Keith Ellison, same thing. Do what you want. These are elected officials, much like South Carolina before the Civil War and Mississippi and Alabama. So President James Buchanan, a weak coward, he sat there while Southern states looted federal armories, stole their weapons, beat up, assaulted federal postmasters, and it grew in ferocity. So much so that South Carolina then finally attacked a federal bureau, Fort Sumter. And the Civil War broke out, and Lincoln was handed that by the coward Buchanan. That was a rebellion, an insurrection. Four years of that under Buchanan. Now, Buchanan could have crushed it early and ignored it. Now, are we all clear on what insurrection rebellion is? It's a federal law. If you're a state or local, you have to obey the federal law. Even if your law is. Is counter to it, sanctuary city, you have to. You're compelled to obey federal law. It's the Constitution. All right, Understanding that my analysis that Minnesota is in insurrection and rebellion is true. Now, let's go over to January 6th. Okay? Here we had an election where the Republican Party lost and the President Trump didn't believe the vote count was honest. And he made that quite clear. Okay? He's entitled to his opinion. Mr. Trump was absolutely, under our Constitution, entitled to his opinion that that election was not legitimate. I, in the middle of it, because I know President Trump pretty well said, whoa, I got to see evidence of the fraud. I'm willing to look at it no matter where it comes from, but I have to see it before I can say anything about a potential fraud. Never happened, never came. And the Supreme Court was looking at it, too. The late. They didn't dismiss this as the press did, you know, well, if there were absolute, not proof, but facts, that's a better word, facts that there were voting irregularities, a sane American would say, yeah, let's see it. That did not happen. What did happen was emotions went crazy. Rudy Giuliani Ran out there. A bunch of other people ran out there. Fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud. Okay? And a lot of people bought it. Lot of people bought it. You know what the Fox News thing was and all of that. They had to pay all that money to that voting machine company that they accused of being, you know, fixing the vote, which never happened. You know, all of it. But it was individual emotions, not elected people. They weren't rebelling against the election. It was the folks, 2,000 of them. They come to Washington for a rally, okay? And they're screaming and yelling, that was a fraudulent election. January 6, 2020. And President Trump addresses them and says quite clearly, let's demonstrate. Because Trump to this day, to this second, believes that there was fraud in that election. But do it peacefully. Famous sound bite. Peacefully. Show your displeasure. Show how you feel peacefully. 2000 go to the Capitol. And it ransacked the Capitol. They weren't peaceful. They didn't follow their leader's advice. So many of them were arrested, okay? A ton of them were arrested. Nobody charged with insurrection. 1583 arrests were made and obstruction of official proceeding, assault, conspiracy, but no insurrection charges, because it wasn't an organized insurrection. There wasn't somebody in a elected office saying, we're going to meet here at this time. We're going to storm the Capitol and disrupt the proceedings there, and we're going to do it under the authority of whatever state you want. That would have been an insurrection that never happened. It's individual behavior, as opposed to the state of Minnesota, which is basically telling the world we're not obeying federal law. We don't care. We're going to violate the Constitution with impunity and too bad, okay? Insurrection. Now, I believe, and I'm one of the few who does, and I could be very wrong, that Fry, the mayor of Minneapolis, can be charged with conspiracy to do something. Walls might float above it, but subpoenas have been issued. Both Walls and Fry have to appear in federal court. Fry on Monday in front of a grand jury.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Bill or Wiley, how do you feel?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I feel all right. I'm a little depressed listening to you for seven hours straight. I need to get some fresh air on that. And actually, in the seven hours, I heard a human being in Boca Raton, Florida, a woman, say when she grows up, she wants to be Sid Rosenberg. Now, after hearing that, I immediately called the Broward County Sheriff's office. All right? And to track down this woman who may be a danger to herself, I mean, just think about. You want to be Sid Rosenberg, when you grow up. No, no. Okay. You can listen to him, you can be his friend on the radio.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But you don't want to be him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You know, Bill, she just repeated what President Trump said earlier. I'm just, Maybe you missed that. No, you're right. You don't want to be me. It's, it's, you know the old phrase, it's not all the glamour it looks like. Well, that pertains to this, but that was very sweet. Suzanne Miller, who does our real estate podcast here at wabc, who got, quote, stuck in Miami. I'm drudging through ice and snow in New York City and they go, we're stuck in Miami. You can't make it up. All right, so you're feeling pretty good. That's good. And you know, you're back on yet? Are you doing all of your jobs?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Where are we? We kicked a lot of serious butt last night on the no Spin News, my broadcast. And then News Nation at 9 o' clock with this Minneapolis craziness, because our story is not being reported accurately. What a shock, right? And it's an insurrection there. And President Trump is correct in trying to bring down the temperatures. But the FBI has got to go in there and laws have to be enforced. Enough, enough. Okay. And then we trace money paid to agitators to go to Minneapolis from Shanghai, China. And we named the man who's doing it. And the FBI has been investigating this guy. Got a note from the FBI this morning that they're on it and they've issued subpoenas and all this. But this is a very, very important story because it's not what it appears to be. And I want the FBI and Cash Patel to go out there and to talk directly to the American people about what they are investigating. And that is everything. All right? I'm not some person that says if a law enforcement agent kills a person that the law enforcement agent is fine no matter what. I don't do that. But I want a fact based investigation because that's how big this story is.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, that's fair. And look, when President Trump comes on like he did a few hours ago, and you were very kind to text me and said it was great, a lot of good information in there. And he said it was. Thank you. And I knew he spoke to Tim Walsh, but I had no idea he spoke to Fry, too. That was, that was new news. And he, and you know, he does the same thing with Mamdani. He says, nice thing, other nice guys, great conversation, blah, blah, blah. But I think you just nailed it. I talked about this all morning long. Lower the temperature. I don't think that President Trump thinks that those agitators were doing the right thing, and I don't think he thinks his ICE agents were doing the wrong thing. But at this point, it becomes a battle that he just can't win. Right, Bill?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I don't know if it's about winning. What it's about is controlling anarchy. And as soon as Donald Trump does something like, well, listen, I want to have a discussion so we don't have any more dead people, which I should, everybody should say, thank you, Mr. President. We don't want any more dead people. So we're happy that you're discussing this situation with the mayor of Minneapolis and the governor of Minnesota. No, not what CNN does or Disney or any of these people. No. Trump's surrendering. Trump's weak. Trump lost, you know, to exacerbate a situation. So we got more dead bodies. Yeah, it's good for the left to have dead bodies, right? More dead bodies, the better ratings for cnn. Oh, it's a dead body. Hey, yeah, Trump's fault. And then when Trump says, geez, I try to, let's get this under control so we don't have any more violence, he's surrendering. Come on. You know, enough with these people. Enough with them. They're disgraceful. And every American, I don't care whether you're liberal or conservative or libertarian, whatever you want to be, if you're countening, if you support this kind of conduct, you're a bad person, period.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It really is that simple. John, what are your thoughts? Jon Katz, Matitis. Phil, of course, comes your way, 5pm Katz and Cosby, 8am Every Sunday morning. Katz Roundtable joined us earlier. His radio station. What are your thoughts on what's going on in Minneapolis and do you think that the president is doing the right thing?

[John Katz]

Well, Bill O'Reilly was on our five o' clock show yesterday, and he was terrific. He was great. And some of these people that famous names, and I'm not going to mention them necessarily, the Chinese name and the other Jewish name in New York, they're, I don't think they're spending their own money. I think they're conduits for foreign money coming in because, look, they're smart people on their own. And the American people have to realize that America is under attack. We found out that America is under attack through our borders. And I don't understand why the Democratic Party is objecting to us sinking the boats full of heroin and cocaine coming to America. As Trump said that one of those boats could kill 10,000Americans and 20,000Americans. Why is the Democratic Party objecting? Are the contributions that high? I mean, we got to realize, I don't care if you're a Democrat, I don't care if you're a Republican, I don't care if you're an independent. But America comes first. American citizens come first. And the American people have to realize it. And do we want immigration? Yes, we want immigration and we don't want invasion. And that's what went wrong in Europe. Europe is in deep doo doo right now. They are trying to have war against America in different ways. Just a breaking news. A few minutes ago, the European Union met with India to talk together about polarizing the US Dollar. In other words, you know why? You know why? Breaking news. You know why gold is 5,000 and you know why silver is $109? Because India, China and some Europeans are selling US bonds and buying gold. So we are under attack in so many ways. And guys, the American people have to stop tiptoeing through the tulips and realize that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, I think you're right.

[John Katz]

And thank you, Bill O'Reilly, for everything you do. Because our mission is to make sure our kids and grandkids have a country to be proud of.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And Bill is, I think, at the forefront of that. John, I agree with you. I don't think there's anybody who explains what's going on better, who's fair and balanced. You know, I know Fox News calls themselves fair and balanced. That's Bill Arati. But you know, Billy mentioned Europe. And you know, they've really become a thorn here. You know, last week, for example, at the Board of Peace, there was not one, not one European ally that signed up with President Trump. They're angry with him, you know, that all of them maybe even more angry than Canada. What do you think the future is relationship in the near future, at least between the United States and Europe?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, under the Trump administration, it's never going to be good because the president doesn't really respect the EU and objects to the fact that we, the American taxpayer, have funneled over about $30 trillion to help Europe since World War II ended. And what did we get back for our money? What? Nothing. You bet. And so now, and this is the way the president sees it, we need to have some military bases up in Greenland to monitor Chinese and Russian activity, including nuclear submarines coming out of the Arctic ports. And we get all kinds of Heat for that. Now, I would have presented it a little bit differently than President Trump did. Right. Okay. You know what I told him on the phone was, Mr. President, with all due respect, if you invade Greenland, I'm going to have to fight on the side of Denmark. I don't want to really eat herring every day and wear the dopey hat. Okay. With the little horns, you know, the Viking hat. I don't want to have to do that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I'm with you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you'll get your deal. You don't have to threaten to invade them. And of course he got the deal. Of course he did. Okay. But the Europeans don't want any of that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

All right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

As somebody told me, very close to President Trump, who's the hardest working human being. I mean, you work hard. Rosenberg and I work hard and Cassima titties. I don't know how he does it, but we all.

[John Katz]

I'm older than you, besides.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right, that's right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And, yeah. And I got an image here. I have to, you know. But anyway, Trump, the guy who's close to Trump goes. He gets furious when a guy like Macron shows up looking like one of the Bee Gees with the tinted glasses. I thought he was going to break out into Night Fever. I thought, rose. Well, it must be the night fever. We know how to do it. I mean, this is a guy. There's Putin massacring women and children and he's negotiating with one of the Bee Gees.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Come on, what is it?

[Bill O'Reilly]

You gotta be kind of tough here. A little bit tough.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Not Europe.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It looks silly. There's no doubt about it. I saw one meme where he took the glasses off Macron, put it on himself and gave the finger to the. The French leader. But look, it is. I think you're right. I think as long as Trump is in power, that's never going to be a good relationship. And why? Because he has held Europe accountable.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's not paying their bills anymore. Everybody else is. Okay, paying their bills. We don't want to pay your bills anymore.

[John Katz]

And he's holding Canada responsible.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, Canada, too.

[John Katz]

Canada is not appreciative that we're going to have the global. Whatever rocket controls.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Chris Cuomo]

And we're protecting them, of course, but.

[John Katz]

They'Re not appreciative of that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Europe either. I mean, you know this bill. A lot of the reason why Europe. And you're right about Canada, John. Europe is doing all this is because they're kowtowing to China. China.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, they understand both Canada and Europe. That The United States not going to let China intrude on the world. And a very big thing is coming up in April when Trump will meet with Xi. Okay. And I'm, you know, in the middle of that. You guys know I went to Beijing, talked to the politburo over there in May at their invitation, not for the president. And see, they, they know the United States, when it comes right down to it, isn't going to let them go under. So they're arrogant. They're like little spoiled kids, you know, your little spoiled kid again. I want that. Yeah, you want to whack them. But if you do that, you'll be arrested. Now, my father would be doing life imprisonment at Rosenberg. I don't know about yours, but if he were a parent today, he'd be in for life.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It's just terrible.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's crazy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I know. Well, Bill, before I let you go and again, you know, you and I talk about Levine. I, you and I text each other all the time, too. We become very close. And you're close to my wife Danielle, too. My son Gabriel loves you. My daughter Ava loves you. You become a family member and there's been nobody more successful than you in the history. I know Hannity was on. He's had great success. Mark Levin, but you're the king. Let's be honest. Bill O'Reilly, you're the king. How do you feel about all of this moving forward? I mean, thank God for wabc, for John, for Margo, for us really outside of us and some of the talent, not all of it anymore on Fox News, some of these other right wing places that nobody really pays attention to. There's not a lot of us out there out there anymore, Bill. And there's not a lot of common sense people like you. So what does the future look like to you?

[Bill O'Reilly]

The future is for the United States hinges on the individual American citizen and stories like yours, Rosenberg, Brooklyn, mine, O'Reilly, Levittown, honest tough guys. Right? Let's break it down. Honest tough guys. And we both have risen to the top of our professions. That gives me hope because the only way we do that is because of the folks. They, they made it possible. Now, we were born with talent and you were born with a skin pigment that no one can quite define. Okay? But it's the folks, and there are enough Americans now that admire straight talk, people who are authentic. That's what Breen said earlier in your broadcast, who are not trying to grift them or not sold out for the money. So tell me what to Say, and I'll say it, Americans can separate now. That's why you are number one. And not only in New York City, but in a country, because WABC is the most dominant AM talker in the world, and Rosenberg is number one in morning drive, which is the most important part of the radio day. If you step back and you look and what I've done, I've done, okay, but what you've done is extraordinary and people should recognize.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, my God, Bill, coming from you, that's. That's a lot of high praise. You know, I say this to you all the time and not to patronize you. You are the best ever. And getting to know you personally, you know, if you're tough Irish, all that stuff, you're one of the nicest and most generous and just a wonderful, wonderful person. I know, John. I know how much you love Bill o' Roddy, too, right?

[John Katz]

I mean, we got a tough Irish guy, we got a tough Jew and a tough Greek.

[Sid Rosenberg]

How about that? That's pretty good right now.

[John Katz]

That's not bad.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's a formidable lineup. And Rosemary, I just want you to do me one favor here. Sure. Stop ruining my reputation by telling people what a nice guy I am. You know how hard I've worked, All right, to be this menace, to be this. All right, I mean, come on.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It's true.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But now he's really a nice guy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Like when Trump calls Mom Donnie a nice guy, you know, he doesn't really mean it. But when I call Bill O'Reilly a nice guy, I mean it. This guy's a heck of a guy.

[John Katz]

You know what we said Trump created the art of the deal, right? And Mondani created the art of the con.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It's true. You're right. Bill O'Reilly, you are amazing as always today. We love you so much. You are the best ever. And I had a lot of big time people on this show today, but Bill O'Reilly, you're the best ever. Thank you so much.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Congratulations, Sid. You deserve every bit of it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Thank you, Bill. That's my guy. Bill O'Reilly. I really do love that guy. What a terrific, terrific guy. The great Bill O'Reilly.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

We got Bill O'Reilly. Hey, I'm watching Last night, the late night host Jimmy Kimmel starts crying on the air during the monologue. Colbert.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, wait a minute. I cry during Kimmel's monologue every night.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

But what happened to late night entertainment? I mean, this doom, you know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

It'S almost inexplicable so people don't know that we, Simone and I and all others in competitive media, we live or die on how many people watch or listen to us. That's the scorecard. That's what the companies use to pay you. That's why you don't have a job or you don't have a job. So a guy like Kimmel, who I know is a funny guy and I've been on his program and it all went well, but he allowed his hatred for Donald Trump to totally consume him. And it's not funny at all in any way. And I've suggested to Jim through close friends, mutual friends, that maybe he wants to take a step back, but he doesn't. His decision. But late night TV is over in the United States. All of them done.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Hey, you used to work at cbs. Now this Barry Weiss is trying to make changes and Everybody's fighting. Their 60 Minutes went into reruns. They don't even want to do a new show with her. How is this all going to work out in the end?

[Stephen A. Smith]

It's a tough slog. When I worked at cbs, Dan Rather was the guy. And Rather was a leftist, still is today. He's in his 90s, and that was very well known. Everybody who worked for CBS National News knew that Dan Rather was a very liberal man. And if you didn't subscribe to his view, you were not going to prosper in that company. So CBS News back then in the 80s when I was there, was almost 100% liberal. That's who they hired. And people who were not liberals could not survive in the environment that lasted 30, 35 years. And now Weiss is trying to change that culture. Very, very difficult because you've got to wipe out a lot of people who are ideologues. She's got to change formats. The audience that watches cbs, as paltry as it is, is expecting a liberal presentation. Then all of a sudden, it's not liberal. So a lot of those people are going to leave. They're not going to watch it anymore. Now the question becomes, can she recruit people who just want the facts? Because I assume that's where she's going. And does she have the personnel to carry it off? I have not seen the personnel of CBS with abilities to do that.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Wow.

[Stephen A. Smith]

They're gonna have to bring in some very new people.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Yeah. Hey, Bill O'Reilly, let's get to Minnesota. The president trying to do damage control. Will he be successful at that?

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think he will. It's a lose for everybody now. Nobody's winning in Minnesota now with two dead Americans and the media is obviously stacked up on the side of the sanctuary policies in that state. They want to use it as a wrecking ball against Trump. Trump knows that the federal government has not really handled it as well as it should have. So you don't run out there and call a guy a terrorist who's lying, bleeding in the snow. Now, if he is a terrorist and there's evidence to back it, then you do that. So right now everybody's losing everybody in Minnesota. And therefore I expect these people, including President Trump, to realign and de. Intensify. I think we're going to see that happen.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Yeah. Hey, tell me about this guy, Neville Roy Singham.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Unbelievable story that is being totally ignored by the American corporate media. This is the guy who's pumping money into Minnesota, who's hiring a hardcore zealots to go to that town to commit violence. All right. He was born in Connecticut, 71 years old, made billions in tech lives in Shanghai, China, very close to the Chinese Communist government. He sends the money into the United States through legal means, 501s and then the money is distributed into radical organizations like Black Lives Matter, Democratic Socialists of America. And they hire people to go to various places to confront the federal government with the object of creating as much chaos and violence as they can. These are all people who want to overthrow the American capitalistic system. So this guy does all this from Shanghai and we can trace it. I'm going to another follow up on the guy tonight on the no Spin news. It is an outrageous situation. Neville Roy Singham is his name. And all you got to do is go to my website, billowrilly.com we got it all there for you. Now the FBI has been investigating this guy, but has not defined what they found out. And that drives me nuts. So I'm going to do another follow up segment tonight with the information that we are gathering and we're gathering it fast. The FBI got in touch with me this morning and they, you know, they know this is serious, it'll break out, but the fact that it's being suppressed by the corporate media ignored. This is an enormous story.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

So I understand why the Communist Chinese party wants to screw up America, but what's in it for Neville Roy Singham? Why is he doing it?

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, he's a communist and he's married to a woman who started Code Pink. They live luxuriously in Shanghai. He's a billionaire and he wants to destroy the United States. That's what he wants to do. And he works in partnership with Beijing. Wow.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

So this is a lot worse than George Soros or Alex Soros.

[Stephen A. Smith]

This is a lot worse. And the reason is because the Beijing Communist government is in bed with this guy. This is an operation. Soros is a loon and he sends money to crazy people to do crazy things, but he's not working on behalf of a foreign government hostile to the United States.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

So the guy's name is Neville Roy singham. Go to billoraley.com you'll get more information on him. Now, he's in Shanghai. He's not in the United States. So there's no way the government can touch this.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think if he came to the United States, they'd arrest him.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Yeah. So, but in Shanghai, there's no way they can touch the guy.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So not yet touch him. He's, that's why he lives there and he's protected. And he's a billionaire because, you know, communists, if you're at the upper level and you're helping the government, you could be a billionaire. I mean, lives lavishly there. As you know. I was in China last May.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And Shanghai is really the place where the money is in China. But it's like Putin. Putin's the richest man in the world.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Wow.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wealthiest man in the world.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Bill O'Reilly, we're glad you're back and thanks for being with us.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

With US Now, Bill O'Reilly, host of the no Spin News billoriley.com Bill, it is good to see you. Trump has clearly changed his worldview over the weekend. How would you characterize it? Backing down, strategic pause pivot. What's happening?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, he wants to stop the madness. Donald Trump knows this is no good for anybody, and he will. He's going to make a deal with walls. I don't know what the deal will be. But the most important part of this for NewsNation viewers isn't about the individual politicians. It's about the misreporting of this story in the totality. There are two different stories here. The first story is the violence against the two people who are dead. There should be an FBI task force in Minneapolis right now, right this moment. I don't know if there is one because Kash Patel has not held a press conference. Where is the FBI director? Where? You can't have Homeland Security investigate Homeland Security. You can't. Why do we have the FBI? You have so many potential crimes in the city of Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota. The only bureau who could do it would be the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Where are they? Where is Cash Patel? All right. You can debate videotape all day long. You can say whatever you want to say, but there has to be an overriding authority in this state, and there isn't. Did you see Leland, and because you've been studying it like I have, one Minneapolis police officer protecting ICE against the demonstrators. Did you see one?

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

No, but that's not the FBI job to investigate them.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The answer is no. The answer is no. You didn't see one because there wasn't one there. And this is a public safety issue with dead people. No local or state cops. None. By order of the governor and the mayor. That is insane.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

That may be insane, Bill, but you want Kash Patel to investigate the governor because he didn't order the police to protect them.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You bet I do.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

That's the solution.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You bet. Not protecting ice. If the FBI comes in and finds that the agents, the federal agents, one ice, one Border Patrol, all right. Were derelict in their duties or use malice, I want those people indicted. Clear? Are we clear? But on the same token, you have got two elected officials that could be charged with rebellion and insurrection under the US Code 2383. This is a rebellion. That is why the people are dead. Nobody brings a gun, a loaded gun, nobody CNN to a confrontation with federal agents or who are under siege. No one does that. That man did because in my opinion, he was so crazed by the situation, so agitated as I am right now, that he had lost all judgment. Now, listen to me. The authorities, governor, mayor, feds have to control that. The controlling bureau is the FBI, not Homeland Security. They're doing what they're ordered to do. Find and detain people who should not be here.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

Who is the modern John C. Calhoun about Walls? A despicable South Carolina senator who actually wanted the Civil War to happen. Do you think Walls wants the Civil War to happen and therefore should be arrested as though he was a Southern governor or something in the early or late 1918 50s?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think there is evidence that should be examined and you might be able to charge Walsh with insurrection under the. Want me to read it to you? I got it right here. It fits.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

Well, would that be good for America?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't care. Look, anarchy is the worst thing that could happen. The worst. Right now, in this present moment, de escalation is the best thing that can happen. So Holman meeting with Fry has my 100% endorsement. Walls calling Trump, vice versa, 100%. But that doesn't excuse what has happened and is happening, which is a rebellion against the United States law passed by Congress, by a state under the governance of walls and a city where fry runs. Look, if you continue, and I say you in a general sense, to allow states and cities to not enforce federal law, you don't have a country, it goes, okay. Everybody should understand.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

So then why is Trump backing down?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Here's the second part of the story. He's not backing down. He's trying to defuse. Why would you say he was backing down? He want a CNN contract. He's not backing down. He's defusing the way he should. Now, here's the most important part of this whole thing. Unreported. Okay? There is a man in Shanghai, China, an American citizen. His name is Neville Roy Singham. He works with the Beijing government. He is funneling millions of dollars into the United States of America through 501s, like party for Socialism and Liberation, Democratic Socialists of America. Minnesota Immigration Rights Action Committee. There he is. Okay? Connecticut born, 71 years old, billionaire tech guy. He is funneling money here to these radical organizations who are then agitating professional people. Communists, mostly. Because Singham's a communist. All right? To go in and foster rebellion. You heard that story reported. That is absolutely true. The man has been investigated by the FBI in the past. This Singham character, okay, this isn't some organic thing. This is a foreign power. Beijing using this American citizen who lives openly in Shanghai in luxury, knowing that this man is funneling tens of millions, probably more, into this country to try to destroy the government. What the deuce is that? Where are you? New York Times. All right, that's the second part of the story. There's a local federal story, and there's the international story.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I've had it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You don't like what I'm saying? Blank you. Because I'm telling you the truth. And this has got to stop and be exposed across the board. No more sanctuary states and cities. No more of this insurrection. It stops. And federal agents keep the guns in the holster. Unless you can't not. I might. Got it. Everybody okay?

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

We actually had somebody on. We've been following the Neville Roy Singham story. January 6th. This is the Free Press reporter who's been working on it. Take a listen.

[Katie]

Neville Roy Singham.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's a tech millionaire.

[Katie]

He's also a Marxist, and he has very close ties to part of the propaganda machine of the Chinese Communist party. And from 2017 to 2022, we were.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Able to trace at least $20 million.

[Katie]

That was funneled into the People's Forum.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So. And that's why you don't think the FBI Right.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

Why don't you think the FBI has indicted him or any of the people who are being paid, who are actually in the United States in these protests or in this resistance movement?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know. I don't know where Keshe Patel is. He should have a press conference tomorrow. I don't know. All I know is I'm a journalist and I'm telling you the truth. I am sick and tired of false reporting based on ideology of pie in the sky garbage of people like Whoopi Goldberg accusing agents of murder. How dare you? How dare you? What about due process, Ms. Goldberg? And Disney knows that's going to happen, knows it and puts it on. I'm fed up with it.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

Okay, where does this go from here? Betting odds right now, who will be the first to leave Trump's Cabinet? Kristi Noem, 40% Pam Bondi, 19%. Cash. Patel isn't in the Cabinet. So he's not there. Where does this story go, Bill?

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's up to President Trump to reorganize this whole immigration crackdown, that the executive branch has to reorganize it. And the president knows that. Okay? And I know he'll reorganize it. But at this point, it would be cheap shot for me. Who isn't in the meetings, doesn't know the dynamic. Okay. To say, well, Noem should go or this one should go. Americans can hold an opinion on it, but I'm a fact based guy. I don't have enough information there and I don't have enough information to convict Walls of Fry either. But there's certainly grounds for them to be investigated on the Insurrection act, both of them. And there are grounds to investigate the ICE and Border Patrol agents who pull the trigger. Those investigations should be transparent. Patel should be holding weekly press conferences and they should begin this week.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

Okay, well, we'll see if there's a press conference with Cash Patel. You make a great point. He has been so far in the background, to say the least. Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much.

[Chris Cuomo]

Bill O'Reilly, it was good to have you back, Bill. You look good.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I appreciate that.

[Chris Cuomo]

Cuomo, the president has been using different language last couple of days, you know, mixed on, pretty said, you know, some things that piss people off, some things that don't. But he said, look, we gotta keep doing what ICE does. We gotta do it in a way that de escalates. He says, what do you think he understands now that he didn't, let's say, two weeks ago?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I don't think there's anything that he didn't understand two weeks ago, it was. It's a top down administration number one. I don't want to get too technical about it, but it's just like what FDR did when he was in the White House for, I think it was 13 years before he died. So all the decisions come out of the White House and the decision was we're going to round up as many criminal aliens as we can. And in the process, if we detain people who don't have credentials to be in the country, we're going to take them in as well. We're going to use the Fourth Amendment to do it, which is exactly what happened. And warrants were issued and people were detained. Okay, so Minneapolis and Minnesota, they don't like that and they're not going to obey the law. And they flat out said it. We're not going to obey the law. Whether you like it or not, President Trump or the Congress or anybody else f you, okay? So Trump has to react to that because it's an insurrection, just like it was before the Civil War. The state is saying, not going to execute what the law of the land is signed in 1952. That's a huge story. Now, in the meantime, for whatever reason, and I don't know exactly why, some of the Border Patrol and ICE agents overreact and have an attitude that they're going to beat the hell out of you if you impede their work. And that I said a month ago, that's going to lead to disaster because you get a bunch of emotionally fragile people. Both of these dead Americans fit into that category, in my opinion. And we've traced them back. We know who they are. They were activists. Mr. Preddy was a guy who was almost violent and you saw him kicking a truck. You saw that his rib was broken 11 days ago in a confrontation. He brings a loaded gun into a hot, dangerous confrontation with law enforcement. Who does that? Who does that? No one. All right? But he did. And the poor woman, Ms. Good, is sitting there in a truck trying to block operations, laughing, and then bolts the truck up. And you're going, if there's going to be a tough guy approach, then people are going to get hurt because these people aren't rational. Neither good nor pretty were rational. What they did was crazy. And instead of the news media, you and me and everybody else saying, don't do that. Protest legitimately, but don't put yourself in harm's way. That's not what the media does. The media tries to make martyrs out of the two of them. And that's all right. Okay. And then tries to blame Trump for their deaths. It's crazy. And then today, after Trump went out of his way to take a phone call from Frye, and you know that you reported on that, Fry basically says, f you again, all Trump is asking is that the Minnesota authorities protect the ICE agents from violence, from intrusion, that the local authorities get Mr. Preddy before he breaks something on an ice truck. All right? They stop that. And Fry says, no, we're not going to do that. In fact, we're going to stand by and stand down while protesters go into a hotel and rip it up because ICE agents are staying there. Now, Cuomo, I'm going to ask you a flat out question. Is that responsible? Is that responsible?

[Chris Cuomo]

I see it differently. I don't believe the mayor is saying we're not going to do what you want us to do. Just flat out like that. F you, as you say.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Here'S what I think is going on, said Cuomo. Wait, wait. I don't want big picture.

[Chris Cuomo]

I thought you asked me a question.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You can do big picture the rest of your show. I want you to answer a question. I am not. I am not going to provide local police protection for the federal agents. Is that a responsible statement, Cuomo?

[Chris Cuomo]

It's not what he said. He said, I am not going to enforce immigration. I am not going to enforce immigration.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Not allowing.

[Chris Cuomo]

I am not.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Hold on.

[Chris Cuomo]

You want me to tell you what he said? I'll tell you what he said. He is not going to enforce immigration law. And I am not going to put my resources behind your unconstitutional actions. You call it an insurrection. Even Trump disagrees with you. Even Trump doesn't believe the insurrection. He just said on television to News Nation the Insurrection act is not needed. Okay? So you take that the way you want.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The big difference that he doesn't believe it.

[Chris Cuomo]

But I'll tell you, the News Nation, that's the answer to your question. Hold on a second, Bill. Here's the big difference. Pretty is this good? Is that. Here's the mistake and here's why there's so much outrage, okay? That is real and rational. That's who does crazy things. People who are built up to be so outraged by what's happening, they become desperate and they do things they shouldn't. The problem is you're pretending that the ICE agents are the same as the protesters and they're likely to act the same way. No one is supposed to be trained, which is why we let you have weapons. And you're supposed to de escalate and you've been doing the opposite. Okay. These are not supposed to be the death penalty. You kick a truck, you're not supposed to die. You block traffic, you're not supposed to die. That's what people are reacting to. Go ahead.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. And they're absolutely right to react to it. And there is an investigation going on into the procedures the ICE agents used. And they may be charged. I don't think they will be, but they may be. And there should be an investigation with Freddie.

[Chris Cuomo]

I don't think that's happening with good yet.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, it's happening with both. And I confirmed it today on my program. The notes been news with the head, the spokesman for the ICE unit who was on McLaughlin.

[Chris Cuomo]

You okay with the DHS investigating this instead of the DOJ?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Go ahead. The Department of Homeland Security is investigating, but the FBI is there as well. That's. That's what's happening now. When you have a situation where there's passion and chaos and violence, people are going to get hurt. And I have said, I just mentioned got to bring it down. And it's the responsibility of the federal government to bring it down. But if you're going to sit there and tell News Nation viewers that Fry is providing local protection for federal agents.

[Chris Cuomo]

I never said that.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you're misleading your audience.

[Chris Cuomo]

I never said that.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They are not.

[Chris Cuomo]

I explained why he said you are.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, Frye didn't say that.

[Chris Cuomo]

No, I'm not.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You just told me. Oh, Fry didn't say that. I just had his quote on the screen.

[Chris Cuomo]

I just had the quote up on the screen.

[Katie]

Game, Bill.

[Chris Cuomo]

It says exactly what I said.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Resources. Hold it. Resources is a code. They're not providing protection for the federal agents. Fry knows it. He's a punk. Okay. Trump went out of his way to talk to him, and according to Trump, Fry came to detente. And then the next day, Fry goes out and says, blank, you again. He's a punk.

[Chris Cuomo]

You cannot.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I am going to predict right now that down the road he's going to be charged. Fry is going to be charged with what?

[Chris Cuomo]

Not liking Trump. What's he going to be charged with?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Insurrection Act.

[Chris Cuomo]

The Insurrection Act. The insurrection. Look, they may charge it with them, but it's because they have absolutely no respect for the Constitution or the administration of justice. But the idea that this is an insurrection. Just read the act, Bill. It's not even a close call. You would fail.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Of course it is of law school.

[Chris Cuomo]

It's not even close. Where is the proof of an organized resistance to overthrow the government.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The proof is that there is federal law that has to be enforced over local law. And Fry refuses to do that. Okay? He is raising the level of.

[Chris Cuomo]

He's not in charge. He's not in charge of that. What he's supposed to do. Sanctuary cities have been found in federal law. He cannot obstruct execution of federal law. That's the law, Bill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You can live in a world of theory all day long, Cuomo. You can live in your own world of theory all day long. Both men have been subpoenaed. Both men have been subpoenaed by whom? Okay. And they've been subpoenaed for a reason. Yeah.

[Chris Cuomo]

Because maga's pissed.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, yeah. And they go after their subpoenaed. How ridiculous is that statement? Maga, who subpoenaed them? Where does MAGA live?

[Chris Cuomo]

Who subpoenaed them?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Are they in Austin, Texas?

[Chris Cuomo]

Who subpoenaed them?

[Bill O'Reilly]

They both are in control of the Congress. They're gonna have to come in and believe me, they may be charged with federal crimes at the same time. A story you've totally ignored. You have. Because you're the most powerful guy on this network.

[Chris Cuomo]

You're gonna mention who I did this morning on the radio show, and I did last night, and I did last week, and I've done six different times. What were you gonna say, Bill?

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's where I did it with. I leaded ditto with Leland on Monday night. That is almost more important story than this is that you have an American living in Shanghai, China, funneling tens of millions of dollars for radical groups to go in and try to overthrow whatever government they want. This story is unbelievable. And the corporate media, with the exception of News Nation, because I gave the News Nation just a heads up that I was going to go into it with Leland.

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, I mean, we've.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I had the congressman and we had a month ago on my program. They're going to go after this.

[Chris Cuomo]

Anna Paulina Luna has been chasing this. Annapolina Luna has been all over it for months. I've talked to her about it multiple times here in Honest xml.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's at the level now. It's at the level now where you have a foreign government through an American citizen who's living in China. Okay? Funneling money to violent protesters in Minnesota. That's what you have. And you don't think that's a big story. And Fry. And there's no way they know.

[Chris Cuomo]

Let me say it, Bill. Let me say it again. I Know that you would like to paint me a certain way. It would make it a little easier for you to make your arguments. I have told you several times, I jumped your own question with the guy's name because I knew where you were gonna go. Because it's so absurd. We have been all over it. The idea that I'm hiding from that story.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, your causation is absurd.

[Chris Cuomo]

If you think that the protests in Minnesota are forced by some crazy guy named Singham who's forcing it with money. You haven't been watching what's happening. It's organic, okay? They're bad actors. There are bad actors involved on the financing. You don't think what's happening in Mega Mission by what they see. So if Democrats subpoenaed the Trump administration and Trump, you would say, oh, this is a real subpoena. This is good that this is how it works. No, you blame the Democrats the whole time. How is this any different? This is political payback, plain and simple.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You have foreign money coming into Minnesota to foster unrest against the federal government.

[Chris Cuomo]

Yeah, it's no good. It's no good when they get it on college campuses. No, I'm talking about MAGA with the day with the subpoenas. Bill, you gotta keep things straight. Bert, you said they're being subpoenaed. They're being subpoenas because MAGA's going after its political opponents. The money coming in is a problem. Maga, that's not about the subpoenas.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The federal government going after the federal government is issuing the subpoenas, not maga. What's the matter with you? Which you are so lost in your theoretical world.

[Chris Cuomo]

So when the Democrats were going after. So when the Democrats were going after Trump, you said, well, this is the federal government. This is how it works. No, you said it was lawfare. You said it was political playback and that it was basically ruining the democracy. You said all of it. You said it right here. And you weren't wrong. And you weren't wrong. But now you want to pretend that this is legit, but when Democrats go after Trump, it's illegit. Come on, Trump. Come on, Bill.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's what it is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's ridiculous. All you're doing is pettifogging the actual story, and the actual story.

[Chris Cuomo]

No, I'm not.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Is an insurrection. It's an insurrection.

[Chris Cuomo]

It's not an insurrection by China.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The default is a problem. That's what it is.

[Chris Cuomo]

Look, I don't disagree, but that doesn't make it an insurrection any more than January 6th was an insurrection. Because it wasn't. It's not an organized movement to take over the government. You know, I mean, what I'm saying, Bill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

James Buchanan is. Now it's James Buchanan Cuomo. So he made the same argument. Oh, South Carolina is not. Not anticipated. They're not. Oh, no. Not an insurrection. Even though they're stockpiling arms, beating the hell out of our Union people, threatening everybody, and finally opening up.

[Chris Cuomo]

What are you talking about?

[Bill O'Reilly]

On a fork.

[Chris Cuomo]

You're talking about ice.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Talking about. I'm talking about James Buchanan before the Civil War. It was an insurrection in the South. It's an insurrection in Minnesota. This is not an insurrection to admit.

[Chris Cuomo]

It, but I have no problem admitting it. I have no problem admitting it if it were true. These are people who are pissed off by what they seeing happen in their communities. Doesn't mean they want to overthrow the government. And you can't look at the subpoenas. Hey, if Democrats were behind issuing the subpoenas, I wouldn't say it. But they're not, because it's just lawfare. But. And yet. I'll tell you how crazy I am. Maybe James Buchanan was also. I'm happy you're back. I'm happy you're back. I still am happy you're back.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Hold on, hold it. Robust debate is what this country needs, and that's what we just provided. Thanks for having me.

[Chris Cuomo]

I'm happy to be part of it. James Buchanan. Cuomo. That's me, brother. I want a t shirt. Bill O'Reilly. I'll talk to you soon.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You just heard Stephen A. Smith, and I kind of joked around that he's Bill, but there's no question in my mind that you've rubbed off on him now. Cuomo. No, Cuomo's an knucklehead, okay? I know you like him. He's a knucklehead, and you can't rub off on him. But clearly you've rubbed up on Stephen A. Because every time he comes on, he sounds smarter, and I'm not. You know, I'm not a Democrat, obviously, and I spend my days and nights just killing him. It's partly why I do so well, because there are still millions were smaller in number, but still millions of Republicans in New York, and I've got them all. But it doesn't matter. Stephen A. Comes on, I can't help but like him.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, here's the breakdown. As far as I'm concerned. I put together the Three Americans concept because I wanted exactly three unique points of view in the Sense that they are different views of life. Different. That's the key. And the reason that I selected Stephen A. Is because he's 100% honest. So that's. That's my litmus test. I don't care what you say, what you believe, as long as it's sincere. I respect it. Unless you're a communist, you're trying to overthrow the government, something like that, man, then I'm going to come after you. But Stephen A. And I've got to know him pretty well, is an honest man. Okay, so right there, boom. And then Cuomo is a standard traditional Democrat with perhaps the best pedigree because of his father, Mario Cuomo. A brilliant man. Yes, brilliant man. Okay.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yep.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And I am not in that world. Never have been in that world. Okay, So I wanted to hear that standard traditional democratic Franklin Delano Roosevelt point of view.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

All right, so and then me, I am an independent like Stephen A. But Eileen, traditional. And that's because I'm a historian and I understand how the United States rose up to be the greatest country that has ever been on the planet. And it's not even close because of the level of opportunity that is offered here to everybody.

[Unidentified Male Host 1]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And that's why we have this migrant situation, because everybody in the world wants to come here.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Everybody. Everybody. You know, it does beg the question. This was asked maybe in my house. I forget where I heard this. What do you think, being the historian you are, what you think is was a bigger threat to democracy, but the Democrats still talk about today, January 6th, what we're seeing in Minneapolis right now.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Well, neither rise to threat to democracy, in my opinion. Both are terrible examples of behavior. Both of them awful personal behavior in a collective display. So last night when I was on Cuomo, we had a debate. Now, Cuomo does not believe, all right, that walls and fry in Minnesota are in rebellion against the United States.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Come on. He doesn't believe that.

[Unidentified Male Host 2]

He.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And he doesn't believe it because he doesn't want to believe.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Stephen A. Smith]

All right. Now there's nothing you can do because 90% of Americans are in that same category. They believe what they want to believe. They come in pretty conceived notions, and then they look for information to back it up, which is why you have Fox and Ms. And cnn. That's what they do. So you believe one thing, they're going to feed you a line. They're not going to look for the truth. They're not going to look for perspective. Now, there is no question, and I mocked him last night, Cuomo and I said, look, there are subpoenas out already. Delivers a fry and to walls by the Justice Department. They could very well be charged with serious crimes for what they are doing. They are interfering with a legitimate, lawful federal investigation. That is a crime. Both of these men are doing that. Now, I'm not convicting them because maybe they'll come in and say, wow, I was insane those days. I did it. They'll get thrown out on insanity, right?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know.

[Stephen A. Smith]

But Cuomo is saying, oh, no, no. They have a right to do it. No, they don't. This is subversion. It's rebellion. And you. When you have a person who's saying it isn't, and you look at them and you say, and I asked Cuomo this last night. I asked it last night. I said, I'm going to give you one question. The mayor of Minneapolis refuses to provide police protection for federal agents, thereby endangering their lives. Do you support that?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, please tell me he didn't say yes.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Wouldn't answer the question.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Okay, better.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Good.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He could have easily said yes, and then I really would want to do it to him, but he's trying to do to me and Scott Jennings.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah, Cuomo. Smart. Yeah. I mean, he knows. He's a lawyer. He knows. The way I frame the question was you're supporting, right, a governor and a mayor who outwardly will not protect lawful federal agents in their city. You are supporting that. If you support that, then you are supporting anarchy, you are supporting violence, and you are breaking the law. Their obligation is to obey federal law. They took an oath, both of them, to uphold the laws of the land. And federal law supersedes state and local law. It's not a hard one. Now it gets confused because there are so many emotions involved and two dead people who shouldn't be dead. And then on the other side, you don't have a coordinated message on the Trump administration side, as I am giving you right now, Sid? Yeah, I am giving you a coordinated message.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, did you hear me? Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. Talking to Tom Emmer earlier this morning, the majority whip. He's from Minnesota.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I know.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's in Congress.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Right.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And I said to Emma, I said, you know, it couldn't hurt if somebody's out there every day. Like during COVID somebody, some government official, obviously, it can't be Trump. Every day. He's about to hold the cabinet meeting, and he's busy. You know, he's got Nicki Minaj, but somebody out there telling the American public what the hell is going on? You've said this before. You've actually said to me, the next couple of minutes, you have to run. But you've said to me, one of the few. One of the few criticism you got with Trump is that sometimes they don't explain well enough what they're doing, even if what they're doing is right. Isn't this one of those examples?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because the basic propaganda level in the American media is enormous. So people are sitting there in their living rooms watching television News Network and cable, and they're being fed a bunch of garbage. Stuff that's not true, stuff that's not even close to being true. And how do they know? How do they know? How can they say, oh, that's not true. I'm trained to do this? Or I have done this my whole life. I know what's true and what isn't true. But most of the folks don't know that. So you get, if you have an articulate spokesperson from the Trump administration, it says, hey, we are not sanctioning dead people. We are going to investigate exactly what happened in a methodical way with the FBI and present everything that we find to you. The American person, not the guy's a terrorist and ran in and try to kill us. You see what he's talking about? You meet tragedy and you meet controversy with rationality. And I like the spokesperson for the Trump administration, Caroline Levitt.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yep.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I think she's pretty straightforward. I know what she's saying at all times. But, you know, Kristi Noem, for example, she just blows it up. And that's not what is going to persuade the American people. This is a hearts and minds issue here. You either have a government that enforces the law or you don't. That's it. How simple is that? You want the law enforced, and there are a hell of a lot of people who do not want the law enforced.

[Bill O'Reilly]

True.

[Stephen A. Smith]

We're seeing that on every level now. Mandani doesn't want to support the law. He doesn't want the law enforcement at all. Mandami is perfectly Happy to have 15 homeless person on your front stoop every day, and he's not going to do anything about it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Noted.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He want. He's about to tear down the srg, which is a very good tactical unit with all the terrorist threats in New York. He's about to tear it down.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Sure. Because he doesn't care about that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And then there's that real subversive element of. Of the foreign money coming from China to pay for these violent demonstrations in Minneapolis.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes. Which you talked about on Tuesday, and I saw you talking about it again. That was excellent work by you, Bill. You're 100% right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Right. That's an enormous story that the liberal media will not report.

[John Katz]

True.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Okay. Yeah. That's. That's what happens in Russia. That's what happens with Putin land.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Putin makes a little. No, I don't think we're gonna report this today.

[Sid Rosenberg]

China, too. You were just there. Who knows better than you?

[Stephen A. Smith]

If you report it, they'll cut your head off.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

They'll kill you. Yeah.

[Stephen A. Smith]

So everybody knows. But it's such a big story. And I dropped it on Cuomo, too. He doesn't think it's a big story.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Of course he doesn't.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Because again, I'm not criticizing Chris. The debate was dynamic and people should watch it. All right. His NewsNation last night, you can get. It's all over social media. Okay. And. But I was going this. This is all tied in. Don't you not understand that?

[Sid Rosenberg]

He gets it. He's a smart guy. And the reason why that works is it's kind of like Goldilocks, Okay. Because it's kind of cool when you've got the cold, you got the hot, and you got the medium. You know what I mean? So you got Steve, you got Chris, you got you. So you have three different porridges. When you put it all together now you've. Now you've had all three. Now you can make your choice which one you enjoy the most.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yes. And. But the point that we have now in this country, and it is a very interesting historical point, is that you have a president that is so hated by the opposition. You know, George W. Bush, they didn't like him, but they didn't hate him. All right. And Bush the elder, same thing. Ronald Reagan, they didn't like him. But, you know, but Trump, the opposition wants to destroy this man.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. That's what they do every day.

[Stephen A. Smith]

That ups everything.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yep.

[Stephen A. Smith]

And then I, when I speak to the president, you know, I basically said, look, the way to combat that hatred, which is never going to go away, you're not going to persuade them, is to have the stronger argument well put out, because most Americans don't hate Trump. It's the 30, 40% that are very virulent lefties. They. And they'll do anything to get them. Anything.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

And they're loud and they own, you know, the. The media, you know, the networks and the cable Networks. So that 30, 40% seems like 90 but to your point, you're exactly right. I gotta run. I'm getting so many messages. I know you're humble. You don't like this stuff because you want to maintain this tough guy Persona. You get mad at me all the time, but I'm getting so many messages that are saying he's still the best, but I want him to be well.

[Stephen A. Smith]

I really means a lot. And the thousands of messages of concern that we got stunned me. And I'll just leave you with one thing. I had veal parmesan last night.

[Katie]

Bill, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's great to see you. So I want to get your first response to Tom Homan's remarks in Minneapolis today. I thought that they were sober, they were confident, they were mission oriented. And I think if people are willing to listen to what he had to say, they'll take some comfort in his message.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, first of all, congrats on the new show, Katie.

[Katie]

Thank you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Nice to see you doing so well. Homan is an interesting character. We had him on with the three Americans, Cuomo and Stephen A. Smith, a short time ago in D.C. at the Kennedy Center. And he's a guy that comes in and he's not a political player. And his expertise is, look, we're going to do law enforcement and here's how we're going to do it. And they got to change. So the Trump administration knows that the Department of Homeland Security can't go into battering ram anymore in Minneapolis because the American people are not accepting that. And it's hurting the president. They know that. So they're asking Oman to reorganize how the migrants without credentials are tracked down. I think he'll be successful in doing that. But the forces against him in Minneapolis and Minnesota itself, the whole state, they don't want this chaos to drop. I mean, they don't like death. They don't like that. They don't want people killed. But they do want as much trouble to cause as much trouble as they can for the Trump administration. And that's important that everybody know that.

[Katie]

Actually, I think that some of the activists do want people killed so they can then use them as martyrs, which we've seen in their literature, to put the bodies on the line. Even Lieutenant Governor Minnesota said that activists need to do that in order to make a point. And sadly now we have. We have seen that play out. But it does seem like Homan's getting some kind of result here already. I mean, Keith Ellison, the attorney general in Minnesota, has reportedly maybe open to allowing ICE into the county jails to get the ice, you know, the criminal aliens who are being held there, into ICE custody in a normal, peaceful, non chaotic public way. But as you said last night, you know, Mayor Fry is a bit of a punk. And he's on X, you know, still yelling at the feds, he's still refusing to cooperate. So they're up against a pretty high bar here when it comes to continuing these operations.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Absolutely. Number one, these people, these foreign nationals in the Minnesota jails are fugitives. Everybody should remember that. They're fugitives. So what Walls is doing, because the jails are the subject of his office, the sheriffs and all that is he's predicting fugitives. It's outrageous. Yeah, it is. And all he has to do is tell Ellison. Ellison's a lackey, far left lackey. Just let ICE in and take these people because they have federal warrants out. And on a federal warrant plateau, Fry has to appear Tuesday at 9am in U.S. federal court in Minneapolis to answer a subpoena. He has to testify in front of a grand jury. And I hope that the Justice Department, a lot of people disagree with me on this, Will charge him with some kind of federal crime. And he's in trouble, Fry. Yeah, Big trouble. Now, if they do that, all hell is going to break loose, Katie. All hell break loose in this country. But what you got now in Minnesota is an insurrection. That's what it is. I debated it with Cuomo last night. He doesn't want to admit it is, but that's okay. It is.

[Katie]

I agree with you. That's exactly what it is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right. And if you look at history, if you look how it played out in front of the Civil War, it's exactly the same thing. There's no difference whatsoever. And in the 50s, when the civil rights people had passed legislation and Wallace in Alabama and Forbis in Arkansas said blank, you federal government, we're not integrating. Well, Eisenhower sent down troops. Airborne. Airborne. That was an insurrection. And so Minnesota would have watched themselves now. But this is no doubt tearing the country apart.

[Katie]

Yeah. I asked the President about whether he was still planning to invoke the Insurrection act last week, but he said he didn't think it was time yet. But if Minnesota officials refuse to back down and cooperate with the federal government, at least allow them to carry out federal law. That is an option that he has on the table. One thing that he's.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's an option.

[Stephen A. Smith]

Yeah.

[Katie]

It is an option. You mentioned all hell would break loose if Mayor Fry were charged with federal crime. But you could also argue that not enforcing the law and not charging people with these crimes that they are actually committing, including Mr. Preddy, who was seen on video that came out last night kicking the tailgate out of a federal police vehicle, ICE vehicle, spitting on officers a week or so before he went to a second confrontation and was ultimately shot and killed, which the investigation will decide legally whether that was justified or not. But if he had maybe been charged the first time and put in prison, if local cops would have maybe arrested him, there would have been some deterrence to not go to the second incident where he was antagonizing and impeding ICE officers, which is a felony, of course.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And the same thing for Ms. Good. As soon as Ms. Good parked her SUV, interfering with the federal investigation, if the Minneapolis police were on the scene, as it should have been, okay, they could have taken her right off and she'd be alive today. But I'd leave all of this alone right now as far as the dead people are concerned. And I would delay any kind of indictment against Frye or even Walz for a while. Because the president's responsibility is not only to enforce the law. He has to do it, but it's also to protect the common good. And right now, the best thing for the United States is to bring this down and to try to educate the American people. And News Nation is in the forefront of doing that on what the deuce is really happening here. You know, we have foreign money, as you know, Katie, coming in from Shanghai, funding these radical groups who are now storming hotels. And the police chief in Minnesota, in Minneapolis, allows it. I did a YouTube commentary on that. That's disgrace. Yeah. You allow these people to loot a hotel. You don't do anything. You don't send your people in. There have been no arrest made. What are you doing? What's the matter with you? Yeah. All right. So I think that the American people, because the media is so biased left so unbelievably irresponsible, they're very confused at this point, and the federal government has to lay it out. This is what is actually happening here. Yeah. And the more they do that, the more people would say, I got it now. Thank you for listening. Remember to subscribe to my podcast feed. Also consider becoming a Billorilly.com premium member. It will enhance your life. Sign [e-mail] membership. Get access to full episodes of the no Spin News.