← Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis
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- [00:12]
Bill Hemmer
I put together the Three Americans concept. This is an offshoot of the Three Americans concept. And I wanted Cuomo and Smith to be part of it, because together they make me look much smarter. All right, so it's purely selfish. The country is in a change mode. We're in flux. Everything's changing. Economy's changing, Social mores are changing. Media is collapsing, collapsing right before our eyes. And my job as a independent is to bring some understanding to it all. See, I'm not that concerned about the polarization and the back and forth. There are lines that need to be drawn and adhered to, but that's always been the case. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson, oh, gee, they hate each other. And they would use surrogates to just knife. And it's always going to be that way, because the pursuit of power is like the pursuit of money. All right? You can't get enough. They can't get enough. And if there's somebody trying to inhibit their power, they want to hurt them, they want to diminish them. So I'm realistic in the sense of being a historian to know that's not going to change. But what has to change is your understanding of really what's happening, really what's going on here. And that's why News Nation is so valuable, because the others play to a choir. They play to a certain segment of the population. They tell them every night what they want to hear, because you can make easy money doing that. All right? But News Nation doesn't do that. It wants everybody to look in and decide who's got the stronger argument. Now, when I started Fox, that's what the philosophy was. But that's changed a bit. And the reason all of it has changed is because of Donald Trump. He's so overwhelming. His presence is so massive that he dominates every news cycle. And everything that happens that he does is blown up into this colossal debate between the progressive left and the conservative right. And if you think back, George W. Bush wasn't even close to that. Barack Obama was a little polarizing, but he didn't want to be. It was just, you know, but it wasn't close. Biden was taking a nap, so nobody knew what he was talking about. And. But then Trump comes on and just. It's like, boom, you're just pinned to your seat. But you got to understand the why of what he is doing, and the other power brokers as well.
- [03:10]
Chris Cuomo
The one thing that I would say is this. You can understand why Bill's absolutely right. But the times that we're living in those past presidents, you talk about the advent of social media, the reach that you can have as a candidate, as an elected official, the way that decisions, perspectives can be disseminated to a point where it can influence so many lives and cause a fervor that's different than it was in the past.
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Errol Louis
And when Bill brings up the media, he's absolutely right.
- [03:38]
Chris Cuomo
From this perspective, there's absolutely, positively no excuse for a member of the media. I'm talking about a journalist to take a side. The facts are the facts, like, I.
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Errol Louis
Didn'T vote for Trump.
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Chris Cuomo
I'm not the biggest fan of how he behaves.
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Errol Louis
But the fact is, is that if he's done a good job, give him credit for doing a good job. If he's done a good job here, fine. If he hasn't done a good job there, fine. Call it as you see it. Because you have to make sure that the public at large is able to look at you and say that I trust that you believe what you're saying you believe and that it's based on factual information and not your personal feelings or personal animus. And when you do that, then you galvanize the American people, because they're gonna say, okay, I can trust you. And as a result, there won't be a dissipation or diminished level of trust in the media. What happened, what has happened to the media is that, unfortunately, too many people are looking to say things, just to be saying things, just to have a particular.
- [04:37]
Chris Cuomo
Because it gets them paid.
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Errol Louis
Well, guess what? It's damaging to the country. And I think that you have an obligation to think about the country more than you thinking about just yourself when you are a member of the media or you have the kind of influence that media is supposed to have. That level of sensitivity is required for any conscientious soul that has the interests of the American people ahead of themselves.
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Bill Hemmer
Why are you a Democrat, though? And I don't say that being a wise guy. You support Israel, correct?
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Democratic Politician
Yeah, well, I do, and that's been isolating, too.
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Bill Hemmer
But look, you support Israel and the progressives don't. Generally speaking, you are for a very rigorous defense against Putin in Ukraine, correct? You want to stop them, right?
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Democratic Politician
Well, yeah, of course. I mean, I would fully support. In fact, I just, on social media, encourage President Trump to provide tomahawks to the Ukrainians. I mean, it's like he is probably the only person in the world that could end this terrible war. And I think, why can't we all agree that's.
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Bill Hemmer
You're not a wild spender. You want to get the debt under control. So why are you Democrat? Your party is against you on all three of those issues?
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Democratic Politician
Well, I mean, a lot of the things that maybe I really believe in calling balls and strikes and I think I want to follow the truths.
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Bill Hemmer
Why is she an independent now?
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Democratic Politician
Well, I mean, those are some independent thoughts, but overall, I mean, you have to pick one side. Republican, Democrat. That's always been my party. And Ernie Bernie's bill, let me just say it's like I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania and I grew up and I know and I love people that voted for President Trump, but they are not fascists. They're not Nazis. They're not trying to destroy the Constitution, those things. And that's part of another thing. I refuse to call people Nazis or fascists or I would never compare anybody, anybody to Hitler and those things. And now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue, we're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things. Like Charlie Kirk, for me, all I could say is like, let people grieve, give people the space. I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that pasic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views. It's like, my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet. And now people have forgotten President Trump was in my state, was shot in the head. And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would be if he was hit in the same way? With Kirk, we really got to turn the temperature down and we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things. But right now, shutting down the government, I just can't take it that.
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Chris Cuomo
So what do the Democrats, your contemporaries, say to you when you say that to them?
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Democratic Politician
What do I say to them is.
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Errol Louis
Like, no, what do you, what do they say to you when you say to me?
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Democratic Politician
What do they say to me?
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Bill Hemmer
Yes.
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Democratic Politician
Yeah. Well, parts of my base are angry with me. No. And primarily, which is really strange. Really strange. I, you know, run the, run the numbers. Run the numbers. I vote, I think 90% plus Democrat. But they're angry. And for, it's like, but I, with my base, very, very angry about me being fully, fully, unapologetically supportive for Israel. And that really pushed that. I've backed Israel through this entire thing. Now, of course, it's heartbreaking, the tragedy in Gaza and what's happened to the innocent Palestinians. Now, for me, I blame Hamas and Iran and Hezbollah and some other people. They'll believe Israel, and I refuse to do that.
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Bill Hemmer
I know George Stephanopoulos is one of your best friends. He convicted you on television o of a $50,000 bribe. Stephanopoulos did this on ABC. The vice president, J.D. vance, defended you, and I thought he did so pretty well. His due process is important. Do you want to clarify anything about that situation?
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Tom Homan
I didn't take $50,000 from anybody.
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Bill Hemmer
Okay. How did that get into the mainstream, do you think?
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Tom Homan
I have no idea. Look, I've been. There's been hit pieces on me since I came back to this administration. There's got to be 30, 40 hit pieces on me about how I'm involved with contracts or government contracts, when in fact, day one I came back. I recused myself from any discussions of any contract or any monetary decisions like that because I used to have a company that did consulting. So I cleared myself. Day one. What people don't talk about is I took a significant huge pay cut to come back and serve my nation. And I'm not enriching myself doing this job.
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Bill Hemmer
Does this make you angry that they're coming at you this way?
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Tom Homan
I don't care what people think about me and never have no. Because I know who I am. I work for the greatest president in the history of this nation, in my opinion. And we're doing the right thing every day.
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Bill Hemmer
Okay, I got one more question, then you guys jump in. The ICE agents that you command have been demonized as Gestapo. And they're kicking indoors and dragging people out. And their kids are crying. You've heard it all. But what I want you to explain tonight is what are the orders of the men and women who are on these raids? What are they supposed to do?
- [10:24]
Tom Homan
Well, they're enforcing immigration laws as enacted by Congress. They're upholding the oath they took to enforce those laws. They're not making this up. So when the people want to attack ICE for doing what they're doing, but once you go scream at Congress, they wrote the law. I mean, ICE is just enforcing law. But ICE is prioritizing public safety threats and national security threats. And the data proves it. I look at the data every morning on the way to work. I look at 22 pages of data. And the last time I looked at a couple days ago, when I actually looked at percentages, nearly 70% of everybody ICE arrests are public safety threats or national security threats.
- [10:58]
Bill Hemmer
What about the other 30?
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Tom Homan
How did they get many of them are national security threats. For instance, 3,000 Iranian nationals. Most national security threats don't have criminal histories. They're landlord to do the dirty deed. A lot of them were final orders. People who had due process at great taxpayer expense were ordered and removed by a federal judge. Our jobs execute those orders. Remove them. A lot of them are gang members. So if you look at the data and as far as the question is, okay, how about the ones that aren't national security threats, not public safety threats, not national security threats, not. Not gang members, who are they? They're collateral arrests. Because when you when the sanctuary of cities forces into the neighborhood to find a bad guy because they won't give us access to the jail. So now we got to go neighborhood and find them. When we find that criminal, many times they're with others, others who are in the country legally, we're not walking away from them. We're going to enforce immigration law unlike the last administration did.
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Bill Hemmer
So even if collateral people, they are subject to deportation, even if they don't have a criminal record?
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Tom Homan
Absolutely. Is there any country legally? It's not. Okay. Bottom line is it's a crime to enter the United States illegal, illegally, and we're not going to turn a blind eye to that.
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Chris Cuomo
Mr. Holman, thank you.
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Tom Homan
If the message we want to send Bill is enter the country legally, it's a crime, but don't worry about it.
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Bill Hemmer
Well, that's what we had for.
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Tom Homan
That's the message we send that enter the country legally, it's a crime, but don't worry about unless you commit another crime, no one's looking for you, you're never going to fix this problem. People are continuing to put themselves in harm's way to come to the greatest nation on Earth.
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Chris Cuomo
I got a couple of questions. First of all, good to see you and thank you for being on my show on a couple occasions. I really appreciate it. But I have to ask you, when you say okay, you enter the country illegally, it's that cut and dry. Is that consistent in your mind with what the President told America during the campaign and immediately after that? He was targeting criminals, not people who just entered illegally.
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Tom Homan
Like I just said, we are prioritizing criminal aliens, national security threats and public safety threats. The data clearly proves it. 70%. Actually, the percentage of criminals we're arresting is higher than what the Biden administration did. Even though they said they were going to concentrate on criminal animals who are convicted of aggravated felonies. And that's just a stone cold fact. We still target criminals they come first. War is first. But are others wrapped up? Certainly. Especially in sanctuary cities where most collateral arrests occur.
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Chris Cuomo
Could you explain why when it comes to ICE agents, there's been this whole big deal about concealing their identity? Law enforcement officials throughout this country don't get the license. Don't get the license to do that. They have to walk up to you. They have to identify who they are. They have to make sure it's clear.
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Errol Louis
An ICE agent getting to conceal their.
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Chris Cuomo
Identity is not a privilege or a situation that other law enforcement officials have. Why should ICE agents have that look?
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Tom Homan
I don't particular. I don't particular. I don't particularly like the mask either. But name another law enforcement agency that's over 1000% attacks on them. And name another law enforcement agency whose spouses and children have been doxed on social media and been attacked and bullied in churches and schools. These men and women put a gun on their hip and wear a Kevlar vest to go on the streets every day. Look for the worst of worst. Makes this country safer. Them wearing a mask. If that protects them and protects their families, then that has to be done.
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Republican Politician
You talk about seeing data all the time. You guys do not put out data enough. Track is the best thing that they have, right? Syracuse University has this open FOIA request. I hear you on shows all the time. Tom, I do not think that you're fos. Okay? I've known you a long time. You can't say I see the data all the time. Great. I don't put the data out because track. You can look it up for yourself. T R A C. It's an acronym through Syracuse university. It's like 50. 50. That takes me to the next point, which is you're not cutting fat, you're cutting muscle. And these communities need people who may have entered the wrong way, but have done everything right since. And their kids are here and they're productive and their employers need them.
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Tom Homan
What?
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Bill Hemmer
That's for Congress to. They gotta.
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Republican Politician
I'm not on. Listen, Tom and I have talked about this. You're an enforcement guy. I'm with you. And Tom makes the right point that they gotta fix it. But enforcement priorities matter. Okay? And I think that's part of it that you should.
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Bill Hemmer
One big thing, both of you.
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Republican Politician
Yes, Tom, go ahead.
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Bill Hemmer
And I'm gonna throw it over to the director.
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Republican Politician
Well, that's very nice of you say this, but it deputized as you've been.
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Bill Hemmer
It has to be said, the surge of foreign nationals through the open border instituted by President Biden solely was about 15 million human beings. So of course there's going to be more pressure on a president incoming than Barack Obama. The most of Obama's deportations were at the border, but when Biden took over, he opened the border. Am I right or wrong?
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Democratic Politician
You're right.
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Bill Hemmer
That's what I thought.
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Tom Homan
Well, get your answer, Chris. The bottom line is.
- [16:17]
Republican Politician
Thank you.
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Tom Homan
Bottom line is the data clearly shows that Trump is keeping his. Go to ice.gov and track.
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Republican Politician
It's like the last time we put it out was in, like, September.
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Tom Homan
But I can tell you, when I was ICE director track, he used to provide a lot of information. You can take raw data and make any assumptions you want unless you know.
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Republican Politician
That data means, hi, Tom, I'm with you, but that's the burden. But be transparent and then have the fight.
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Tom Homan
I'm being transparent. Tonight, 70% of everybody arrests a criminal. President Trump said, we're going to concentrate on national security threats. That's exactly what we're doing. The data shows it. And like I said, for the hundreds of thousands of criminals that is going to be removed in this administration, it makes that country safe again. Keeping President Trump's promise to the American people, what he was going to do, he said he's going to have the largest deportation operation in history. We're going to have the largest deportation operation in history. You look at numbers right now, I just told you, over half a million have been deported between CBP and ice. And that's not counting the first four months of the fiscal year that were under Biden. We're not even counting those months. But if you extrapolate that in the monthly apprehension we got right now, you do have the biggest operation in the history of the nation. And the reason, one of the reason people don't understand, why do we have the most secure border in nation history? Because President Trump's executive orders his leadership on that. The men and women of the Borg to stand in that front line and catch and release. And third, because the whole world sees ICE out there every day. Across this nation, enforcing immigration law sends a clear message of consequences so families don't spend their life savings handed to a criminal cartel to make that dangerous journey because they know there's consequences. President Trump's policies, whether people want to face her or not, is saving lives by the thousands.
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Bill Hemmer
Why do you think Governor Pritzker is so adamant against you and ice? Why?
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Tom Homan
Because they hate Trump more than they love the residents of Chicago.
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Bill Hemmer
Is it that simple, though?
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Tom Homan
You tell me.
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Bill Hemmer
I don't Know, I don't know.
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Tom Homan
I think any elected mayor, any elected governor, any elected city council person, their number one responsibility is the safety of their communities. So why would you not stand shoulder to shoulder with ICE to remove public safety threats?
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Republican Politician
Because you don't think that the people that they're arresting are the number one security interest in your community.
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Tom Homan
Well, I think they are.
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Republican Politician
I get your opinion. I get my opinion. But I also get that you don't make the policy. Bill is right about that hurts every time I say it, that Congress should make these priorities. Congress should give what your men and women have been asking for since I first met you a hundred years ago, which is changes to the rules of what is asylum and how they can process and what their resources are. They won't do it because they love the problem, because it allows them make everybody hate each other.
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Errol Louis
Well, they love the problem.
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Chris Cuomo
They love the problem because it's also something they think they can campaign on.
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Republican Politician
Let's not exactly campaign on the problem.
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Bill Hemmer
But I agree with Cuomo on this.
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Republican Politician
All right.
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Bill Hemmer
You need a better PR guy out there.
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Tom Homan
Yeah.
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Republican Politician
Higher bill.
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Bill Hemmer
So there's a lot of politics in play here because the Republicans feel that they're gaining. And CNN actually the other night had a poll that showed Americans are blaming. Most Americans are blaming Democrats to the shutdown. That could change. Okay. So when the publicans see that the urgency of this drops because the midterms loom. But I want to ask the three Democrats here, this is what I think is underlying. I don't know if you saw the. Or the Oregon treasury report.
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Tom Homan
Two and a half. Two and a half.
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Progressive Politician
Well, we got one and a half Republicans and two and a half Democrats. We're good.
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Democratic Appropriator
Let's make a deal.
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Bill Hemmer
Oregon releases a budget. And in the budget it shows the state of Oregon is spending $1.5 billion for the years 25, 26, 7 to give free health care to undocumented migrants. In the same budget, the state police get 50% less than that. There is a deep suspicion on the part of the Republican Party that the health care system is being gamed. It's a con, okay? And that all of this money going into Obamacare is being used by the blue states to do things they're not supposed to do.
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Republican Politician
Madeline, is it a shell game?
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Bill Hemmer
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Here's the question. Okay.
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Democratic Appropriator
No, that's not the law and that is not true.
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Bill Hemmer
But the stats are the stats. Oregon said we are going to spend 1.5 billion to give health care.
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Democratic Appropriator
We're the federal Government. The federal government does not allow that.
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Bill Hemmer
Democrats have said there's no money going and that's not true.
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Democratic Appropriator
So you know where the money goes. Two and a half emergency care.
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Bill Hemmer
Congress.
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Republican Politician
Answer the question.
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Errol Louis
She's got.
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Democratic Appropriator
It's a Ronald Reagan bill. Health care for those who come into our emergency room that they don't die.
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Bill Hemmer
It's not emergency room. It's not emergency room. You're talking about the federal government in the state of Oregon. So I believe and remember people believe what they want to believe. I believe that the goal of the Democratic party is to have socialized medicine in this country one payer. And right now on CNN you have a communist town hall with AOC and Bernie Sanders.
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Democratic Appropriator
I thought I was going to that town hall.
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Bill Hemmer
We'll kick their ball.
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Democratic Appropriator
I really thought I was.
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Republican Politician
Chris, what happened?
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Bill Hemmer
He's socialist. So my question is he's socialist to you.
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Republican Politician
This is where right and left come to be reasonable.
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Bill Hemmer
Is he still here?
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Tom Homan
Yeah.
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Independent Commentator
Okay, Bill, I just.
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Bill Hemmer
Wait, wait. Here's my question.
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Independent Commentator
I said you had mellowed down since the Fox days.
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Bill Hemmer
You want a one payer government run Social Security.
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Republican Politician
Great question.
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Bill Hemmer
Yes or no?
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Democratic Appropriator
You know what I want?
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Independent Commentator
Yes, I do want Medicare for all. You want it? You know who else wants? Marjorie Taylor Greene. Okay, Marjorie Taylor Greene is talking one.
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Bill Hemmer
Who wants. You want a car?
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Democratic Appropriator
No, no, I want two things. I want an actual budget. I am newly an appropriator.
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Bill Hemmer
You're drifting.
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Democratic Appropriator
No, I'm not drifting. I'm telling people what they need to know.
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Bill Hemmer
You want socializing?
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Democratic Appropriator
Appropriators are supposed to put forward bills, have them pass, go over to the Senate, reconcile where you can.
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Bill Hemmer
It's a dodge. Come on.
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Democratic Appropriator
It's not a dodge at all. I want everybody in America to have health care.
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Bill Hemmer
Okay, you know what Martin? The only way that happens is a one payer Canadian system.
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Democratic Politician
Let me just.
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Bill Hemmer
The only way it happens, Phil, you.
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Independent Commentator
Know what I mean?
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Democratic Appropriator
One of my favorite Martin Luther King quotes is the greatest injustice. The greatest inequity is injustice in health.
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Bill Hemmer
Okay. Health care is a human right. That's fine.
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Democratic Appropriator
Then you must be for single payer.
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Bill Hemmer
For health care for all the half Democrat right here. Do you want socialize medicine? No, I don't.
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Progressive Politician
But I do want to revamp the medical system that we have now because people don't know what they're paying for. They don't know what they're getting.
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Bill Hemmer
Okay, but you don't want the government control.
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Progressive Politician
We can fix that. Right. The government basically has to offer.
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Independent Commentator
So it's two Bill, you know Donald Trump in his.
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Bill Hemmer
I don't know him.
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Independent Commentator
He called for. Read his book. He says we should have the Canadian single payer system before he became president.
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Bill Hemmer
Is that before or after we take over Canada?
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Independent Commentator
That's a fair point.
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Democratic Politician
I don't know.
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Independent Commentator
Maybe that's his plan. Maybe that's his plan. But look, Marjorie Taylor Greene and a lot of Republicans, they're saying this is broken. You get you had $71 billion of private price profit by insurance companies, ordinary Americans, premiums are doubling. They're still paying deductibles. And they're saying this is a deadweight cost on our country.
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Bill Hemmer
I'm not saying wrong. I'm saying this is the divide. This is why throw the word.
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Republican Politician
But you throw the word socialized in there, all right? Because it's a poison. No, even Canadian. See, this is all code.
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Bill Hemmer
This is all code. That's what they pay.
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Republican Politician
It's code. It's code. If she says yes, I want socialized, move all over Tik Tok. You know, they're socialists and that's why nothing gets done. Because it's not about the practicality of the purpose. It's just about name calling and which side is worse. Are you going to say something? I just wanna say there it is.
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Chris Cuomo
Trying to be very respectful to everybody because they deserve it.
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Democratic Politician
Why?
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Chris Cuomo
Let me say none of them. Cause you deserve it. But let me say this. I don't think Washington understands how ticked off we truly are. Think about the conversation that we're having right now. You brought up the single payer system emulating Canada. You know, we're looking at a president that just gave $20 billion in we're hearing about or witnessing what I consider to be a retribution tour. And even though to some degree I don't blame him because of how people went after him, still it appears to be counterproductive. We're listening to this kind of stuff while a young man walked up to the microphone and said that he had to leave here to go and work on doordash to help pay for his daughter's tuition. Meanwhile, everybody up here getting paid, but he ain't.
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Errol Louis
This is this kind of stuff right here. That's how you know. And I'm not accusing any of you directly or personally of feeling this way. I'm just talking about the apparatus that is Washington, the nation's capital. This is why you have so many Americans, excuse my language, so pissed off at Washington. Because somehow, some way you get to have these conversations engage in specific elements of it to talk about what we need to do to get things better. Our debt is 37.8 trillion. Somehow, some way, the taxpayer's been paying this, been throwing money because we all look at our check and it's been going to the government. And somehow, some way, you're supposed to be doing something constructive and productive enough to make sure that we don't have that kind of deficit. It isn't happening. A government shutdown is going on right now. A man has to work on doordash when he's really an air traffic controller that we applauded. And we're up here talking about how much some money is gonna cost. And the only person that don't have.
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Chris Cuomo
A check coming is him.
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Errol Louis
You know what I'm gonna do?
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Chris Cuomo
I'm gonna take a break.
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Republican Politician
All right, Bill, what's your big takeaway.
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Bill Hemmer
From the night that you're still standing? Cuomo. I came in with a lot of, you know, Cuomo does a good job. I give him a lot of grief, and he deserves every bit of it, but he does a good job because we're now into this for 2 hours and 20 minutes and kept it moving. You guys liked it, right? I'm watching, And I thought we had a very good panel and people spoke from the heart. I didn't see a lot of phony stuff because I'm not big on phony stuff, but I think you did a nice job, Cuomo, and that was my takeaway.