No Spin News - TPM Edition - December 12, 2025

Summary

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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: No Spin News - TPM Edition – December 12, 2025

Main Theme and Purpose

This episode of Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News centers around three major themes:

1. The massive taxpayer fraud in Minnesota, with a particular focus on the Somali community’s involvement and political repercussions.
2. The economic reality for Americans, including inflation, affordability, and the media’s portrayal of a crisis.
3. A case highlighting judicial failures in Tennessee after a Somali immigrant with a long criminal history allegedly committed a violent crime, sparking debate over criminal justice, political responsibility, and public safety.

Throughout, O’Reilly delivers pointed critiques of political leaders, media narratives, and the American justice system using his characteristic direct, no-nonsense commentary.

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1. Minnesota Taxpayer Fraud Scandal and Political Fallout

[00:07–07:10]

Key Discussion Points

• Scale and Origin of Fraud:
  • Trillions in unregulated COVID funds under Biden enabled massive fraud schemes in Minnesota.
  • $1 billion was stolen from welfare programs via three major schemes (“Feeding Our Future” cited as an example).
• Demographic Focus:
  • Majority of those charged are of Somali descent: 79 out of 87 charged (61 convictions), referencing The Hill analysis.
  • O’Reilly explains historical immigration patterns to contextualize Somali community’s presence in Minnesota.
• Political Blame and Tensions:
  • President Trump blames Somali community, particularly vocal due to Congresswoman Ilhan Omar’s prominence.
  • Governor Tim Walz (D), former VP candidate, denies knowing about the fraud, which O’Reilly calls “hard to believe.”
  • Democrats control the state senate and AG; House is Republican.
• Media and Journalism’s Role:
  • Scandal only surfaced due to investigative reporting by Ryan Thorpe and Christopher Russo of the Manhattan Institute—not law enforcement.
• Welfare State Critique:
  • Minnesota spends $46,000 per welfare recipient, second only to Massachusetts – highlighting issues with entitlement spending.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On systemic welfare fraud:

  “They were diverting money that was supposed to be used to help people into their own pockets… a billion dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa. A billion dollars.” — Bill O’Reilly [02:15]

• On political reactions:

  “[Governor Walz] apparently says he didn’t know anything about this. Hard to believe, but that’s what he says.” — Bill O’Reilly [03:18] “Democrats won’t acknowledge fraud because they want more Americans on the dole... Welfare is central to their political business model.” — Quoting Wall Street Journal, [04:44]

• Minnesota Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanagan defends community:

  “I just watched the video of Donald Trump attacking the beautiful Somali community that calls Minnesota home. They are part of the fabric of our state.” — Peggy Flanagan [05:51]

• O’Reilly’s retort:

  “But you don’t care about a billion dollar grift. Apparently, you don’t care at all, do you? What have you done about it? Nothing.” — Bill O’Reilly [06:32]

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2. Economic Reality vs. Media Narrative

[07:16–20:39]

Key Discussion Points

• Bill’s Financial Philosophy:
  • O’Reilly reflects on his personal thrift and attitude towards money.
• The True State of the Economy:
  • Various price changes year-over-year:
    • Beef up 15%, bacon up 6%, coffee up 19%, rent up 3%
    • Apparel down 1%
    • Several essentials down: eggs, butter, fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, ham
  • Health insurance up 6%, auto insurance up 12%, utilities up 5%
• Market and Unemployment:
  • Mortgage rates down; stock market strong (Dow up 8%, Nasdaq up 19%)
  • Unemployment steady at 4.1–4.4%
  • 60% of American adults with retirement accounts see gains.
• Media’s Role and Political Spin:
  • O’Reilly claims media pushes an “affordability crisis” narrative, omitting positive data.
  • Advises Republicans to focus on solutions, not just Biden blame.
• Advice for Listeners:
  • Buy less-expensive protein; use capitalist consumer power to drive down prices.
  • “If the meat is too high, I’m going to eat fish or chicken. That’ll drive the price down. That’s capitalism.” — Bill O’Reilly [14:13]
• Political Stakes for Trump and the GOP:
  • Trump’s midterm prospects tied to economic perceptions.
  • Emphasizes need for clear, precise messaging on achievements and plans.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On media and economic reporting:

  “No, it’s all a bunch of nonsense and propaganda. They don’t care about the stats that I just read… They don’t care because they don’t like Trump. They want Trump to lose.” — Bill O’Reilly [19:01]

• Critical of insurance increases:

  “Auto insurance up a whopping 12%. Why? What are you guys doing out there? You’re paying all these football players millions of dollars to pump your insurance, and it’s 12% up. Even if you don’t have an accident, you’re getting hosed.” — Bill O’Reilly [13:40]

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3. Injustice and Criminal Justice Failures: The Nashville Case

[20:44–29:12]

Key Discussion Points

• Broader Theme of Injustice:
  • Examples of injustice from historical regimes; parallels drawn to the growing American issue—an unwillingness to punish criminals.
• Case Overview:
  • Somali immigrant “Mohammed” (39): 15 prior arrests, 21 charges, 1 conviction before an alleged rape/murder in August 2025.
  • Victim: Megan Mayo; incident occurred on church steps, caught on surveillance, victim later died (overdose confirmed by autopsy).
• Judicial Accountability:
  • GOP Congressman Andy Ogles publicizes faces of six judges who repeatedly dismissed cases against Mohammed.
  • Backlash from judges, who claim Ogles incites violence and puts them at risk.
• O’Reilly’s Response:
  • Asserts judges are primarily responsible for public safety, criticizes repeated dismissals.
  • Attributes failures to progressive judicial philosophy and insufficient punishment.
  • Emphasizes that judges must be held accountable in the court of public opinion.
• Similar Nationwide Issues:
  • Highlights bail reform and non-prosecution trends in major cities as perpetuating violence.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the gravity of judicial failures:

  “You can’t make this crap up. And I’m sorry that [the judges] are offended and scared. But you know what? I’m guessing she was scared, too.” — Bill O’Reilly [25:52]

• On judicial responsibility:

  “Your primary responsibility is to protect the public. And obviously, you have not done that. You let a guy, the long, long rap sheet out, dismissed his case time after time after time, and now he kills a woman. That’s on you. Sorry.” — Bill O’Reilly [27:27]

• On Andy Ogles’ actions:

  “…Ogles is a hero, in my opinion, because he’s standing up against this injustice. And it’s gone on far too long.” — Bill O’Reilly [28:44]

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Noteworthy Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Quote | |-----------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:07 | O’Reilly opens with Minnesota fraud scandal | | 02:15 | “A billion dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa. A billion dollars.” | | 05:51 | Peggy Flanagan: “They are part of the fabric of our state.” | | 06:32 | “You don’t care about a billion dollar grift. Apparently, you don’t care at all, do you?” | | 13:40 | “Auto insurance up a whopping 12%. Why? What are you guys doing out there?” | | 14:13 | “If the meat is too high, I’m going to eat fish or chicken. That’ll drive the price down.” | | 19:01 | “No, it’s all a bunch of nonsense and propaganda...” | | 25:52 | “Where was this woman’s protection when she was being raped to death on the steps of a church?” (Ogles) | | 27:27 | “Your primary responsibility is to protect the public. And obviously, you have not done that.”|

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Overall Tone and Takeaways

• Direct, combative, and critical of political, media, and judicial establishments
• Focuses on data and concrete cases to dispute prevailing narratives
• Advocates for personal responsibility, accountability, and systemic reform
• Vivid, occasionally confrontational language and familiar “No Spin” style

This episode is essential listening for those interested in O’Reilly’s perspective on immigration, welfare, law enforcement, media bias, and real-world impacts of political decisions on American society.

Transcript

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You're listening to the no Spin News Talking Points edition.

[B]

Now, the Talking Points memo this evening is a very disturbing story. The massive taxpayer fraud in Minnesota. All right, so President Trump is blaming the Somali community out there. Close to 90,000 Somalis live in Minnesota, most in Minneapolis, St. Paul. The reason they live there is because that was a magnet in the beginning when the first Somalis came over. And that's what always happens. Ethnic groups go to where their predecessors are. So the Irish went to Boston and New York. The Italians went to New York. That is the pattern of migration. Mexicans go to California. So Somalis headed on in. Now, the President of the United States, and I talked to him about this directly a few days ago. The President does not think in general the Somali community really helps this country, okay? And he's pretty blunt on it. And part of that is their congressperson Omar, who is a far left progressive, you know, put any other adjective you want in there. But Trump despises her. And now with this massive fraud, he is down on the Somali community. So what happened? Okay, so under the Biden administration, trillions of dollars flowed into communities all over the United States during the COVID years. They were unregulated. The money was not watched by feds or state. That's on Biden's watch. Remember Joe Biden, the four years he was in highest spending president by far in US History, Ran up the debt in an astronomical way. So the money pours in to Minnesota, all right? And then three big schemes emerge, all right? Fraud, absolute fraud. Now, if you want to learn about that, you can go and do the Nexus search or the Wikipedia or whatever. Feeding our future. I mean, they all got names and. But it would be too much for me to explain all this fraud, but it was. They were diverting money. The criminals were diverting money that was supposed to be used to help people into their own pockets in three major ways. Total money, a billion dollars. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. A billion dollars. All right, so there have been 87 people charged with crimes, 61 already convicted. These are federal charges. 79 of the 87 Somalis, according to the Hill newspaper, did analysis. So it was a Somali problem. Okay? Now, the government of Minnesota, as you may know, is very liberal. All right? Tim Walls, former vice presidential candidate under Kamala Harris, is the governor. There he is. There's Tim. Apparently Tim says he didn't know anything about this. Hard to believe, but that's what he says. Democrats control the Senate in Minnesota. The Attorney general is the Democrats is a Democrat. House in Minnesota is Republican, but nobody knew about this for years and years and years and years. Just unbelievably disturbing. Why? This is what the Wall street journal wrote on December 4, quote, Democrats won't acknowledge fraud because they want more Americans on the dole. Welfare is central to their political business model. Republicans who make the scandal about immigration are missing the point and missing an opportunity to educate Americans about the entitlement state grift. Okay, I wrote a column Yesterday on Billow Reilly.com I got into this a bit, but Minnesota is second in means entitlement spending behind Massachusetts. Ready for the stat. $46,000 per welfare recipient in Minnesota. $46,000 the state funnels into entitlements, not Social Security or Medicare, anything like that. Giving people stuff. And they're proud of it. Proud of it. It is the second, I don't know what the second state that spends that much. Minnesota. It's only 6 million people there. They spend more on means of time in California. It's just crazy. It really is crazy. Tim Walls VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE okay, now the population of, as I said, is approaching 90,000. Smiles. I'm adding legal and illegal in there. And if you criticize the Somali community who is obviously behind most of them this fraud, you get branded a racist. Here is the Minnesota lieutenant governor Peggy Flanagan. Go.

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You know this vile racist stream of consciousness from President Old MAN YELLS at CL. You're disgusting. And the people of this country deserve so much better. I just watched the video of Donald Trump attacking the beautiful Somali community that calls Minnesota home. They are part of the fabric of our state.

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Yeah, well, I can't argue with the problem with part of the fabric of your state, madam. But you don't care about a billion dollar grift. Apparently you don't care at all, do you? What have you done about it? Nothing. And this would still be going on if not for two reporters. Guy named Ryan Thorpe, another one, Christopher Russo. They both work for the Manhattan Institute conservative think tank. They broke the story. Not Minnesota law enforcement. Not federal law enforcement. Journalists. And that's the memo.

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You're listening to a special edition of the no Spin News Money.

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Like most of you, I didn't have a lot when I was growing up. I earned every cent. And I'm not a money guy. Not a Lamborghini guy. No jewelry, don't do that. No $18 cocktails. I harbor my money and I do that because I understand the value of it for providing protection against evil. More money you have, more protection you can buy. And I've instilled that in my children that we're not wasting it. We work hard for it. We respect it. In America today, there is a struggle for the currency. Have you heard of Gold Belly? It's this amazing site that celebrates the best of America by shipping our country's most iconic foods from legendary restaurants straight to your door anywhere in the usa. Now I tried Gold Belly's Maine Lobster roll kit and deep dish pizza. Incredible. Both of them. So this holiday season I'm gifting a coconut cake and Junior's red velvet cheesecake to friends and family. Gold Belly's food is high quality. Ships reliably makes giving deliciously easy. 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Now, he is going out, as you know, and that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So he will be Donald Trump in Mount Airy, Pennsylvania, that's in a Poconos this evening, and he will speak on the economy and his vision and what he has already accomplished. I can't write speeches for presidents. I wouldn't do it even if asked. I can give advice, but I'm not going to get involved like that. But I said on News Nation last night that to blame Biden for all this not going to get President Trump anywhere, any currency. Every clear thinking person knows that President Biden was not up to the task. And Donald Trump inherited a mess, but he did make very specific promises that he would improve the situation, and that's where he stands now. So this is the fairest analysis you will ever hear in the American media. I am about to give it to you, and I always recommend that you watch the no spin news and listen on the radio with a pen and paper. Essentials of life. Okay, Beef Prices are up 15%. Bacon up 6%. Coffee up 19%. For coffee. All right. Stuff you need around the house. Supplies of three. Rent up 3%. Okay, that's the downside. Apparel, clothing, down about 1%. Eggs, butter, fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, ham, all down in price. And this is year to year. Jay Biden was in office last year at this time. Trump's now year to year. That's a big list. You'll never hear it in the media. Eggs, butter, ice cream, fruit, cereal, fish, seafood, rice, pasta, ham, all down. So don't eat the steak. I mean, that's what I do. And it's not. I'm being cheap. If I want steak, I could buy 80 of them. Okay? But I don't want to reward this. So if the meat is too high, I'm going to eat fish or chicken. That'll drive the price down. That's capitalism. Insurance, that's the big one. Okay? Health insurance, up 6%. And for senior citizens, that is very, very difficult. Home insurance, up 4. Auto insurance of a whopping 12%. Why? What are you guys doing out there? You're paying all these football players millions of dollars to pump your insurance, and it's 12% up. Even if you don't have an accident, you're getting hosed. All right? Utilities are up 5%. Okay, now that doesn't make a lot of sense because gas prices at the pump are down, falling. Utilities are up. You know those utility Companies, you got to watch them because you got to assume in America all these corporations are going to make as much money as possible. They're not like us here. And we artificially keep our prices for stuff we sell down. They don't do that. I don't have to answer to stockholders. But you know what the drill is. Okay, so gas prices are down about 3% except in California where they're up. And what am I going to tell you guys out there? You're trading nice weather for chaotic governance. That's what you're doing. Mortgage rates are down, okay? And they're going to fall even further when the Fed cuts rates tomorrow, which I believe it will a quarter percent. So if you're looking to buy a home, it's going to fall below 6%. Though you should look around. That's a good rate. Decrease a 9% for mortgage rates. And falling rents are high rents. You don't get your money back. Look around if you can put the down payment, okay? Stock market flying. Dow up 8. Nasdaq up 19% this year. That's AI stocks risky, but the stock market is doing well. So if you have a 401k, a 403B Individual Retirement Account IRA and 60% of American adults do have them, you're up, your wealth is growing. So this affordability stuff is very murky here. Okay? Unemployment at the same 4:1 to 4:4. But if you want a job, you can get it. And particularly in a service industry, they're desperate for people to work and you don't get tax on tips. Now, have you heard of Gold Belly? It's this amazing site that celebrates the best of America by shipping our country's most iconic foods from legendary restaurants straight to your door anywhere in the usa. Now, I tried Gold Belly's Maine lobster roll kit and deep dish pizza. Incredible, both of them. So this holiday season, I'm gifting a coconut cake and Junior's red velvet cheesecake to friends and family. Gold Belly's food is high quality. Ships reliably makes giving deliciously easy. So if you're looking for that perfect gift for everyone on your list or want to impress your friends and family with an unforgettable meal and make hosting a breeze this holiday season. Please go to goldbelly.com get 20% off your first order with promo code BILL. That's goldbelly.com, code BILL. 20% off your first order.

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And wages are up 4% for civilian workers, private industry, 3.5%. So wages are going up. This isn't a dire economic circumstance. It's not. But here's the kicker. Every day, every way, the American media is pounding affordability crisis. Affordability crisis. Affordability crisis. Roll the tape.

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The affordability crisis.

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The affordability issue. Affordability is what voters are mad about. The affordability crisis. Out of control.

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Affordability issue.

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Housing, affordability. When it comes to the affordability problem.

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Affordability is a real thing.

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No, it's all a bunch of nonsense and propaganda. They don't care about the stats that I just read. You and my staff did an excellent job sorting all that out. They don't care because they don't like Trump. They want Trump to lose. So I hope, in the interest of fairness, that the Trump administration gets very precise about what's doing, what it's going to do next year and where things are. Biden, we don't need to hear about him. Doesn't do anybody any good. Everybody knows we don't need exaggerations from the President. This is a serious issue, particularly insurance. I mean, those guys over there in the insurance agencies, something going on that's not good. Finally, 2018, Donald Trump's second year in office probably got whacked. Lost 41 seats in the House. Donald Trump remembers that. That was one of the big things that I discussed with him. You went through this. This time around, if he loses 41 seats or if he loses 10 seats, he's a lame duck. Not going to get any legislation passed through the Democratic House ever. Big for his legacy for him. So tonight he starts on the road. We will report on that tomorrow. Extensively, what he says, strengths and weaknesses. And that's the memo.

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You're listening to a special edition of the no Spin News.

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Injustice can erode and sometimes collapse an entire nation. So we've seen that throughout history. China, Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea, Iran, on and on and on and on. These are totalitarian societies. You, you as an individual have no rights. And under that banner there is injustice. You don't get due process. If the government says you're going to get executed, you're going to get executed. Now, in America, injustice is on the rise, not because of a political party or an Ideology. It is because there is a strain in our legal system that does not want to punish criminals. It is simple as that. And New York City has elected a man to be mayor who openly says he doesn't want to put people in prison, even violent people. He wants an intervention. He wants to provide them and persuade them not to do the evil they are doing. In the meantime, tens of thousands of people are getting hurt in this country. And now a story in Tennessee illuminates that in an incredible way. That's the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. Guy named Mohammed. Mohammed from Somalia, 39 years old. There he is. Okay, he's arrested 15 times, charged 21 times, one conviction, public indecency. But the guy's a miscreant. Everybody knows him. He's a bad guy. All right, so this month, 9:30. I'm sorry, last August, this month he was. He was exposed. 9:30pm, Aug 14, 2025. Police say that Muhammad raped a 34 year old drug addicted woman named Megan Mayo. He did that on the steps of the Nashville Life Church in Nashville. The woman was so assaulted, she had to go to the hospital where she died. Now, the autopsy says it was an overdose and the police say they have surveillance video of Muhammad actually raping the woman as the woman tries to push him away. So she is dead. Okay, Now Muhammad has finally been charged. Remember, 15 arrests prior? Okay, so now he's in deep trouble.

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Where was this woman's protection when she.

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Was being raped to death on the steps of a church? You can't make this crap up. And I'm sorry that they're offended and scared. But you know what? I'm guessing she was scared, too. Okay, so now's a huge controversy. And in a joint statement, the judges said this, quote, ogle's choice to employ rhetoric invoking violence, even for political grandstanding, carries real endangered consequences. Our foremost responsibility is to ensure that courthouse employees and every member of the public entering the Burch building are safe and can access the justice system without fear of becoming casualties in what Mr. Ogles has described as a war on elected officials. Anyone interpreting his inflammatory remarks as a call to action would be gravely mistaken. Unquote. Okay, I understand that point of view. But number one, that's not your primary responsibility. Judges in Nashville, Tennessee, your primary responsibility is to protect the public. And obviously, you have not done that. You haven't done it. You let a guy, the long, long rap sheet out, dismissed his case time after time after time, and now he kills a woman. That's on you. Sorry. On you. So nobody would know that unless Congressman Ogles did what he did. The court of public opinion. Now, these judges are elected. They're elected. Is that what you want in Tennessee? I'm talking to the voters now. Do you want that? Because the press isn't going to report it. They'll cover for these judges. This isn't just going on in your state. It's going on everywhere. Dozens and dozens of arrests and convictions, and they let them out with no bail in New York. Won't even prosecute in Chicago, la, San Francisco. And they're walking around hurting people. They're not caught every time they hurt somebody. The only reason this guy Muhammad was caught was because the fire department was driving by and saw this atrocity, stopped the truck, got out and detained him until the cops came. That's the only reason. So let's sum this up. Anybody who would hurt a judge for no matter what is evil, you don't do that. And the state of Tennessee needs to protect these judges. That's number one. But the judges have no beef. You make these rulings, you own them. And Ogles is a hero, in my opinion, because he's standing up against this injustice. And it's gone on far too long. And all of the judges are Democrats, most of them progressives, all of them. The philosophy is not going to punish these people. You don't let them go. And that's the memo.

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