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Bill O'Reilly
This year we are now again experiencing, I should say, a war on Christmas. But it's very different than the one I encountered in 2005. Can you believe I was reporting on the war on Christmas on the O'Reilly Factor 20 years ago? Oh, boy, talk about time flying. It's the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So back then it was atheists.
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Demanding that the words Merry Christmas be banished. A very simple concept, offensive off the chart, horrible violation of the First Amendment, all that. And some of these companies are actually threatening employees. Some department stores said if you say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, we're going to fire you. No, it did not sit well with me. Here's what I said. November 9, 2005 Go factory investigation segment Tonight, as you know, Christmas has become controversial in America. Public displays of the federal holiday are under attack by the aclu, and some department stores even tell employees to avoid saying Merry Christmas. So we decided to look at some retail policies this year. And that was the end of that because I named the stores that were threatening their employees. And you, the millions of people who watch me said, we're not shopping there. All of them folded. All of them. I remember Target was involved somehow. I think they were a holdout. But they all folded and we won. And I thought that was it. But now, 20, 25, 20 years later, there's a new war on Christmas, but it's different.
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Okay, ready for this? So.
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The far left does not want immigration enforcement in America. I think that is a true statement. They supported the open border of President Biden. They don't like ice. They don't want people held to account. They just don't want any of it. They are using that. And I'm generalizing now, but it's getting pretty common. All right, to say that.
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Christian white men, hello, right here. Are ruining Christmas because we are biased against illegal undocumented aliens. Well, I'm not. I give millions of dollars to help migrants, but I support the immigration laws that we have. They need to be updated, but they need to be enforced. That's my posture. So there is a guy named John PAVLOVITZ, all right, 56 years old, Syracuse, New York. He is not an official minister, but he's attached to theological concerns and he has a empathetic people network. So he writes a column and I'm going to quote briefly from it. Quote, the brutal Yuletide assaults haven't come from atheists or agnostics, not from humanists or Muslims, not from coffee franchises or the liberal media or progressive Christians or the mythical woke mob. The very white conservatives who have been loudly sounding the alarm are incessantly advancing hordes. They're the ones warring with Christmas because they've disregarded their own story. Christmas was a child of Palestinian Jewish parents. I think he means Jesus there desperately fleeing political ordered genocide. Christmas was a dark skinned child born amid the smell of damp straw and animal dung because no human worthy welcome could be found. Unquote. All right, so they're pretty provocative. White men are the ones attacking Christmas. All right, so we called Mr. Pavlovitz and very politely because my staff is very polite. They're totally unlike me. Okay, very. And he just basically said, no, we're not Talking to you, O'Reilly. Okay, John, you don't have enough courage to come on and talk to me and you know, look in the mirror, pal. But don't give me a skin color analysis of Christmas, okay? That's racist and I don't care what color you are.
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Okay, but it's just racist, flat out racist. In my humble opinion, when you bring skin color is white. Christian men are ruining Christmas because we don't agree with you. On immigration enforcement. Okay, so this is around and Pope Leo, and he doesn't even know what's happening. I'm guarantee it. You're getting drawn into this thing and I'm watching that very, very closely by. And hopefully I'm going to try every trick in my bag to get an interview with Pope Leo. I don't think it's going to happen, but I'm going to try. But the progressive left, the Pavlovich of the world, trying to pull him in here to condemn anyone who would uphold immigration law in the United States now and who believes that the ICE agents are not terrible people. I don't believe that. I believe they're public servants doing their job. Okay. Now, there are excesses, there are mistakes. Of course I'd like to see a policy with a footprint that's not quite as dramatic. I don't know what's going on behind the scenes with the deportation judges. Nobody does. That's the key to it all. You know, do they, if they take somebody in, they're not a criminal alien, do the judges allow them to go back to where they were or do they get a deportation order signed? I don't know. Nobody knows. That's the key to the story. Okay, so just for your information, I know you don't care about the guy, but Pavlovitz, he hates Donald Trump. He, you know, he's a very, very stringent progressive and.
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He is trying to whip up a war on Christmas scenario that demonizes people who see it differently than him. That's all.
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Bill O'Reilly
What will happen next year. I know now I'm not Carnac the Magnificent. Now if you don't know who that is, that's a Johnny Carson reference. But I'm not a soothsayer, Nostradamus. I am a guy who knows what's happening. And 2026 is the last chance.
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The far left, the Trump haters, the Democratic Party, their media allies, last chance to get him. And it's going to come down this way. Every week there will be a new controversy. We've seen a preview of it this fall. Epstein. And now the gunboats. Okay. Blowing up the drug boats. And next week it'll be something else. I don't know whether they'll take a Christmas break or not. But then every week in 2026, a new controversy to try to wear down President Trump in the court of public opinion. That's what will happen. Now, I don't know if the Trump administration knows this. I suspect they do, but I don't know for sure. But they need to put together a rapid response to team to anticipate that this is going to be an ongoing campaign because if the Republicans lose the House or the Senate or both, then Donald Trump becomes a lame duck president. He loses an enormous amount of power the last two years. If the Republicans hold Trump actually increases his power. And, and believe me, that is not going to be good news for the progressive left and the Trump enemies and the media. A lot on the line here. Now. We got a preview yesterday with White House Press Secretary Caroline levitt. I know Ms. Levitt. She's a young woman, but she is very, very bright. And.
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I was impressed with my meeting with her which took place two or three weeks ago. I didn't know her before then, face to face. Anyway, you'll remember that the New York Times ran a piece that said Trump is getting old. That's impacting on his job. Piece is bogus. And I told you why. I deal with the White House all the time at the highest level. I know that Trump's younger staff members have a hard time keeping up with them. That's a fact. The story was bogus. So yesterday Ms. Levitt took it on. Roll a tape.
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White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt
And I will point out one fake news story over the weekend before I let you all go from the New York Times, that took about one third of the president's daily calendar and his daily schedule and said that he's doing less than than he did in his first term or he might not be fit for the job. That is unequivocally false. And it's deeply unfortunate that this story was written by the same outlet and the same reporter who wrote this. Biden is doing 100% fine after tripping while boarding Air Force One. Oh, same outlet, same reporter who wrote that President Trump is not fit for the job. Are you kidding me?
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Bill O'Reilly
And it's true. So there was no reporting on President Biden's decline. And to the very end, the liberal media was, oh, no, don't believe your eyes. He's fine. And of course, he wasn't fine. Now, that's the kind of very effective methodical response that the Trump administration has to get up and running on every issue if they want to win the midterms. And that is what is at stake.
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Bill O'Reilly
Donald Trump and the media, I should say Donald Trump in the military. And the media coverage of that, that's a little more clear. The military situation here is the truth. If you have a pen and paper, you might want to write this down. So, you know.
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On January 20th of this year, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order designating drug cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. FTR O's. That list has grown throughout the year. They add various gangs, various situations to the executive order.
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Okay. The executive order gives the President of the United States the authority under our Constitution to use military force against threats to America. Foreign terrorist organizations. That is important for everyone to understand. It is under reported.
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After the attack on 9 11, 2001, President Bush the younger went to Congress and got the authority to declare a war on terror. Under that authority, the American president has the lawful right to attack enemies of this country as long as they are designated in writing. Can't Just attack everybody. It's got to be there. You don't need congressional approval. You already have it. Congress already gave Bush the Younger that hat. So that has been used over the past 25 years to wipe out Al Qaeda, bin Laden, ISIS, Soleimani of Iran. And I chronicle all of this in my book, Killing the Killers. If you have not read that book, it is very important that you do so if you care about this at all. All right, now, there has been an authorization for use of military force, okay? And that happened under President Obama. The authorization for use of military force, AUMF is the acronym.
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Why President Obama did that is that he made a mistake in withdrawing all US Forces out of Iraq and ISIS took over. Remember that? Okay? Half the country and ISIS killed thousands of people, Slaughtered them. President Obama went back in under this authority not approved by Congress.
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And to his credit and to President Trump's credit, because they both combined to do this. Both of them. They wiped out isis. And you'll remember during that horrific campaign that air power, U.S. air power and special forces were used. Al Baghdadi, the head of ISIS tracked down and his three young children were killed. It was out Baghdadi's fault, not our fault.
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But it was. Go in and do what you have to do. The orders for the bin Laden raid in Pakistan were everybody dies unless they immediately surrender any resistance. Boom. And we go through that. In killing the killers.
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White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt
It.
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Bill O'Reilly
In addition.
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There were campaigns before 9, 11, and this is fascinating. So Bush the elder, okay. In December of 1989, the anniversary coming up. Invaded Panama. The United States invaded Panama. Okay. And 21,000 U.S. troops stormed that country, kidnapped the president. Noriega, brought him to Miami. He was tried as a drug merchant.
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Bill O'Reilly
And Bush the Elder said to Congress, again, no approval of this. But he did alert Congress, said this Laurier is a threat to the United States because he controls the Panama Canal and there are civilians endangered. Panama went in, removed him. Okay, you remember that? I certainly. I was covering it. And then before President Reagan invaded Grenada, the Caribbean island, because Cuban troops were there and American medical students in Grenada were threatened, according to President Reagan, no congressional approval. Boom. 7,500 U.S. troops and shooting in Panama. No, Just went in, grabbed them. That was a government change Panama. There was some shooting back and forth. Okay. That was Operation Urgent Fury. So you can see that there is a long history which is very important to understand about US Military action not getting congressional approval and not obeying the rules of war. Because when you go after a terrorist group like isis, we blew the hell out of them, okay? There was no Geneva Convention. There are no ISIS prisoners I know of. They're dead.
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Not justifying reporting. I don't know if you could have done another way. I don't know another way. So now we have Maduro in Venezuela. He's Noriega. Now. President Trump actually told Maduro, we won't arrest you, but you got to get out of Venezuela. You got to leave. You can take your family, some money. Cuba will take you, Brazil will take you. It's not the same thing. But Maduro said no.
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So Maduro, you know, he's on the clock. That guy's not going to survive this. Whether he's dead or captured, I don't know. I don't think Trump's going to send ground troops in. I don't think so. That's too messy. But certainly air power. And we know that the flotilla of warships is now in the Caribbean. U.S. warships. So it's a very complicated situation I do expect with these drug boats being blown out of the Caribbean and the Pacific. And the latest controversy is there were two guys that weren't killed. And then the US Forces went back and dropped another bomb on the boat and they were killed. And the Democratic Party and a lot of some Republicans, I wouldn't say a lot, but some. Or say, no, no, no, this again against Geneva Convention, whatever it may be. It's not the Geneva Convention. It's a totally different thing. Okay? This is a terror designation. It's a whole different thing than a declared war. And that's the memo.
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Bill O'Reilly
So let's get right to my trip to the White House last night, the first of the Christmas parties. They do call it Christmas at the Trump White House. And it was magnificent. I have to tell you. And I said this to the President, never seen a White House in better shape. There's construction going on, but you don't see it when you go into that magnificent structure and the decorations are always lights out. But you know, what Donald Trump has done to that White House is he's made it into a symbol of grandeur. And there's a psychological reason why he wants heads of state, powerful people all over the world to come there, to be very impressed with the United States. And, boy, I'll tell you, I've been going to the White House for 25 years. Boy, I must have been here, oh, I don't know, 50, 60 times, and every time's a privilege. And I said that to you yesterday. I don't take this for granted. I'm the luckiest guy in the world. I came from very little, as, you know, Levittown, Long island, shoveling snow and doing what all kids do. And now I'm going to the White House, talking to the President. It's really only in America, and that's not a cliche. It could not happen anywhere else in the world. So I spent 40 minutes, 4:0 with the President of the Oval Office, and we did talk about some things that I can tell you.
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I don't want to violate any confidence, but I'll give you an overarch. And these are the things I was concerned about. And I would say, what about? What about? What about not my job to grill the President. This is a social situation. And he was very gracious because, you know, I'm me. A lot of people don't want to hang with me. He spent 40 minutes of his time. So it was a big problem with Putin. Putin now is reveling in the Ukraine corruption story. As you may know, three of Zelenskyy's top advisors have been implicated in stealing millions, probably tens of millions of dollars. And that weakens Zelensky. There's no doubt about it. And Putin's just watching this. And the President's still hopeful that he's going to get some kind of ceasefire before Christmas. I don't know. Boy, that lad is on the COVID of Confronting Evil. I put him there for a reason. He is the most evil person on the face of the earth right now, in my opinion. I don't know if he's going to give an inch because he sees Zelensky and Ukraine getting weaker and The President knows that now. Also, there was a lot of controversy and I was curious myself about this Honduran president who was incarcerated in the USA for a massive amount of drug smuggling, cocaine out of Honduras while I was in office. And.
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I didn't want to confront, obviously, the social situation, Mr. Trump about it. But there were other people there and I got the, I got what happened. So the man's name is Juan Orlando Hernandez. And this is important because the Trump administration is attacking drug cartels with U.S. military. So Hernandez gets convicted by a U.S. jury. He did it. He's corrupt. But there is an election in Honduras and it's going on right now and it's ill defined. And it seems to me, based upon the information I've accumulated, the Trump administration wants the traditional candidate to win, who is tied to Hernandez's party. Not politics. The other guy is a communist. Now, if you look at a map of Central America and we will put up so you can see almost every country there is friendly to the USA now, okay? With the exception of Nicaragua, which is a communist country. And the Trump doctrine is to have every country in the Western hemisphere allied with us. So that is why this guy Hernandez got a big break. It's politics now. Do I object to that? Corporate megastores are spending millions lobbying D.C.
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Not really. I understand the big picture here, and I did at one point say to President Trump, you know, this guy owes you. He's got to help the USA for what you did. I can't follow this, nobody can. But I wanted to because it is a subject of nonsensical American television coverage, provides some perspective.
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Okay, so we were there. And.
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When I go to those gatherings, I'm polite. Anybody wants a picture, that's fine. But I'm trying to stay in the background. And I saw a lot of people that I know, and these parties, there's a series of them up until, I think, December 20th, maybe December 15th, because the president's going down Florida for two weeks.
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They're to reward donors and to, you know, people who are in the Trump administration bring their families, and it's really some experience. We have pictures posted on billoriley.com I'm not doing this for any vanity whatsoever. I mean, I've known Donald Trump 35 years, okay? And as you know, if you follow me, I support, I would say, most of his policies because I believe they're the best policies for the United States, as every one of you know, because I'm very candid about it. I wrote the book Confronting the Presidents. Joe Biden's the second worst president ever. And he never invited me to the White House. He wouldn't invite me to Maryland. And I don't blame him. If I were President Biden, I would invite me. I was hammering him, okay? I was invited by Bush the Younger, by Barack Obama. I had extensive conversations with both men in this White House. Same thing with President Trump, okay? But Biden, I perfectly understood. I'm a hammer in the guy because I believe that his policies were really, really hurtful to the United States of America. Trump has reversed that. Now, is he perfect? No. Does he like some of my coverage? No. And he lets me know it when he doesn't like it. But that's not my concern.
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My concern is to tell you what I know to be facts and then let the chips fall. My job is to inform you not to be any kind of an ally to any politician anywhere. Now, if a president of the United States asks my advice or your advice, or you give it to him or her as a patriot. And again, I'm up front. I think that Donald Trump has worked harder than any president with maybe the exception of Lincoln. Lincoln really had it rough when he walked into. Buchanan was the only president worse than Biden. And Lincoln came in a mess. And the war was about to start. So Lincoln didn't get any sleep. Trump looked a little tired. I have to say, last night, he didn't get much sleep. But he works. Unbelievable. And most of his policies, I understand them. I want the drug cartels to be blown out of the Caribbean Sea. I want a very robust foreign policy.
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To protect us. I supported the bombing of the Iran nuclear facility. So when Donald Trump does it, I look at the policy and what he's doing, is it best for the country, not best for the Republican Party, not best for the conservative ideology or traditional or any of that. Is it best for the country? And I've been doing this 50 years, okay? And that has always been my philosophy. So wrapping it up here next year. And I have to have other conversations with President Trump about his vision for 2026. Going to be rough on him as I've reported. Last chance for the left and the Trump haters to take them out next year. The last chance you're going to hear every, every week there's going to be something.
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But I want to hear what his vision is and I hopefully we'll get that done the next couple of weeks.
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