No Spin News - TPM Edition - September 19, 2025

Summary

---

Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis – TPM Edition

Episode Date: September 19, 2025 | Published: September 20, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly

---

Episode Overview

This episode centers on the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk and its seismic impact on American media, political discourse, and freedom of speech. Bill O’Reilly discusses the amplification of hatred by the progressive left, escalating “cancel culture,” the ramifications for free speech, and the recent high-profile firings in media—including columnists and late-night hosts—framing them as signals of a broader cultural and ideological reckoning.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Media Chasm and Amplification of Hatred

[01:18–08:40]

• O’Reilly introduces the "growing chasm" in America, focusing on how hate is magnified by the media landscape.
• He responds to an email from Ken in NYC, who accuses “Trump and MAGA” of contributing equally to political chaos.
• O’Reilly rebuts this with a focus on media amplification, stating the progressive left’s message is far more widespread due to dominance by five major networks (ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC) and “five to one” social media advantage.
  • Quote:

    “Any kind of hatred is amplified at a much greater level on the progressive left, again, you can’t refute. It is absolutely true.” (Bill O’Reilly, [05:00])

• He argues that while extremists exist in both parties, the left’s voices dominate due to bigger platforms and financial backing.
• O’Reilly likens the progressive movement to the rabble-rousers of the American Revolution, but claims their agitation is far more widely broadcast.
  • Quote:

    “So if you are an unstable, mentally ill person and you live in the progressive world, you are constantly agitated. That’s what happened to Utah… and boom. He splits, he breaks. Same thing with the kid in Butler… Try to kill President Trump.” ([07:30])

2. Cancel Culture Hits the Right

[08:45–10:18]

• O’Reilly points out a shift: some right-wing activists are now participating in cancel culture, celebrating firings and engaging in employer callouts following Kirk’s murder.
• He criticizes both the left and right for celebrating death or job loss, calling it “atrocious.”
  • Quote:

    “I think that it is absolutely atrocious that anyone would celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk or any other person unless that person were Hitler or Stalin… But there’s a degree.” ([09:34])

• Plays Vice President Vance’s comments urging people to call out and call employers of those celebrating Kirk’s murder, but cautions listeners to avoid rumor and personal revenge:
  • Quote (Vance):

    “When you see someone celebrating Charlie’s murder, call them out in hell. Call their employer… Get involved, get involved, get involved.” ([09:58])

  • O’Reilly:

    “Be careful because dishonest people can use that cancel culture for revenge, for denial of due process, for rumor.” ([10:18])

3. The Far-Left Under Fire: High-Profile Firings in Media

[15:13–19:41]

• Discusses the recent firings of media figures (e.g., MSNBC’s Matthew Dowd and Washington Post’s Karen Attia) for controversial comments regarding Kirk’s murder.
  • Quote:

    “She had been there 10 years… African American woman. You fire her now… for gross misconduct. Your public comments... violate the Post social media policies, harm integrity… endanger physical safety.” ([16:47])

• Frames these events as “the far left under notice,” observing more caution and defensiveness among progressive media personalities.
• Notes that cancel culture now cuts both ways:
  • Quote (Brian Stelter):

    “This is a new form of cancel culture. You know, something that the right complained about when, you know, they were saying the left was targeting people four, five, six years ago. The truth is cancel culture never goes away.” ([15:16])

• O’Reilly recounts his own targeting by cancel culture and exclusion of conservative/traditional voices from major network platforms for a decade.
  • Quote:

    "All the networks, all three have excluded traditional conservative voices for the past, what, 10 years since Trump entered the arena. Couldn't get on there." ([15:29])

4. The First Amendment and the Limits of Speech

[19:46–26:45]

• O’Reilly expresses concern over abuses of free speech, citing confusion over the First Amendment’s scope after Kirk’s assassination.
• Outlines Attorney General Pam Bondi’s tough approach to “hate speech,” clarifies that only speech directly inciting violence is unprotected.
• Plays Bondi’s comments and emphasizes the legal standard: causality must be proven for the Justice Department to intervene.
  • Quote:

    “There has to be what they call ‘cause and effect.’ You say something and that puts a person in danger or harms that person in some way, the line has got to be direct…” ([22:12])

• Discusses media’s (both left and right) desire to fundamentally change or defend the current system, with the left accused of amplifying hate against Trump.
  • Quote:

    “The leftist media… wants to change the country, all right? They don't like the country the way it is, and they want fundamental changes.” ([24:21])

5. Media Bias and Platform Exclusion

[26:45–31:21]

• Focuses on the exclusion of conservative/traditional voices from mainstream platforms:
  • Whoopi Goldberg: O’Reilly accuses The View of not inviting conservative guests.
    • Quote:

      “Not on the View. Not one. I used to go on there all the time. I'm not conservative, but I certainly lean traditional when Barbara Walters is running the show.” ([27:54])

  • Critiques the lack of true free speech in spaces where dissenting views are structurally uninvited or censored:
    • Quote:

      “If you can't say in a forum, which you'd like to say, you don't have freedom of speech.” ([28:41])

• Shares his rare recent appearance on CBS, crediting a corporate management change with breaking the pattern of exclusion.

6. The Dismissal of Jimmy Kimmel

[33:10–44:35]

• Analyzes the firing of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel as a case study in the consequences of partisan media and the perils of becoming “consumed with hatred.”
• Explains that a revolt among ABC’s affiliate networks forced Disney to act, following outrage over Kimmel’s remarks tying MAGA to Kirk’s assassination—a connection O’Reilly calls defamatory and untrue.
  • Quote:

    “You can't say on your program that MAGA people are somewhat responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's defamatory. It's a lie. It's not even close to being funny. What the deuce are you doing?” ([36:49])

• Describes the media licensing structure—networks are public airwaves and thus accountable to federal standards, in contrast to cable and social media.
• Reflects on his past cordial relationship with Kimmel and denounces the personal cost of letting “hatred” consume public figures:
  • Quote:

    “Every human being who's consumed by hatred goes down. Everyone. And that's what happened to Jimmy Kimmel.” ([44:40])

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On media amplification:

  “You can always find somebody worse or said something. Nothing comes of whataboutism. It is lazy. It is fifth grade.” (Bill O’Reilly, [02:30])

• On cancel culture across the spectrum:

  “Cancel culture never goes away. It just changes shape.” (Brian Stelter, [15:16])

• On exclusion from media:

  "All three have excluded traditional conservative voices for the past… since Trump entered the arena. Couldn't get on there." ([15:29])

• On the First Amendment line:

  “It can't be an opinion. It's got to be a threat.” ([30:31])

• On Jimmy Kimmel’s downfall:

  “Donald Trump destroyed Jimmy Kimmel’s career. …You don't have to be obsessed. And Jimmy Kimmel became obsessed with Donald Trump.” ([33:40])

• Reflecting on his own past with Kimmel:

  "He was very nice to me and my staff… This was before the rise of Donald Trump." ([42:55])

• Final thought:

  "Every human being who's consumed by hatred goes down. Everyone." ([44:40])

---

Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:18] – O’Reilly introduces the theme: media’s amplification of hatred after Kirk assassination
• [05:00] – Unrefutable claim of progressive left’s amplification advantages
• [09:58] – Vice President Vance calls for employer reprisals against celebrators (cancel culture discussion)
• [15:13] – Brian Stelter’s take on right-wing cancel culture
• [16:47] – Karen Attia’s firing and O’Reilly’s commentary
• [19:46] – Free speech and the First Amendment under scrutiny post-assassination
• [22:12] – Legal line between hate speech and crime (Pam Bondi)
• [27:54] – O’Reilly accuses The View of silencing conservatives
• [31:21] – CBS management change—a rare interview opportunity
• [33:10] – Discussion of Jimmy Kimmel’s ousting
• [36:49] – O’Reilly: “You can't say… MAGA people are responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk”
• [44:40] – Reflection on the dangers of hatred in public life

---

Tone & Language

O’Reilly’s language is direct, emphatic, and combative—both analytical and personal, mixing anecdote, historical reference, and rhetorical flourish. He grounds arguments in his experience, leverages notable quotes and media clips, and is unyielding in his critique of progressive media dominance and partisan hate, while also cautioning against excesses from the right.

---

This summary captures O’Reilly’s perspective and major argument threads, providing clear context for each major story, and spotlighting the episode’s memorable moments and most significant passages.

Transcript

[A]

Wouldn't it be great to manage your portfolio on one platform? Well, now you can trade all in one place on Robinhood. That means you can trade individual stocks and ETFs and also buy and sell crypto using seriously powerful and intuitive tools at one of the lowest costs on average without needing to manage multiple apps. Robinhood makes withdrawing and depositing crypto seamless. Send crypto to your Robinhood account or send crypto from your Robinhood account to other wallets without deposit or withdrawal fees from Robinhood. Trade all in one place. Get started now on Robinhood Trading. Crypto involves significant risk. Crypto trading is offered through an account with Robinhood Crypto llc. Robinhood Crypto is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Crypto held through Robinhood crypto is not FDIC insured or SIPC Protected network fees may apply to crypto transfers. Crypto transfers may not be available to all customers. Investing involves risk, including loss of principal securities trading is offered through an account with Robinhood Financial LLC member sipc, a registered broker dealer. Trip Planner by Expedia. You were made to outdo your holiday, your hammocking and your pooling. We were made to help organize the competition. Expedia made to travel. You're listening to the no Spin News Talking Points edition.

[B]

Now we begin tonight with the growing chasm. I love that word, chasm. C H A S M in the United States of America. Now I'm going to do this unemotionally with no ideology whatsoever, which I hope you will find refreshing. But it is a major story. So we all know what happened immediately after the assassination. You know there was a flood into social media. Never a good thing. There is no policing of social media, no editors, no fact checking, nothing. And many mentally disturbed human beings park themselves in these political websites. Okay, so I get a letter from Ken in New York City. Obviously not going to tell you his last name because I I don't want anything to happen again. But here's what Ken writes to me. Quote, what about the rhetoric from Trump and maga? Trump and MAGA are just as responsible for all the chaos we have in politics. Please tell Bill O'Reilly if he is truly to be fair and express the opinion for both political parties, he should read my email, unquote. Okay, no problem reading your email, Ken. And whether I'm fair and I is up to you. But I'll tell you this, the whataboutism is ridiculous, Ken. It really is. You can do that for every story in the world. Well, what about the. Well, you can always find somebody worse or said something. Nothing comes of whataboutism. It is lazy. It is fifth grade. Oh, he did better. Okay, let's knock that out. What about. Let's deal with the problem at hand. You believe, Ken, that the Trump administration and the people who support it are just as responsible for vitriolic rhetoric as the progressive left. Apparently, that's what you are leaving. That's fine with me. You're an American. You believe what you want to believe. But I'm going to make a case to you now, that is you cannot refute, all right, about how wrong you are as far as the spread of hatred, verbal hatred. Okay? Now surely can you know, an error. Every other person who owns a television set knows. There are five major corporate networks allied with the Democratic party and progressive movement in America. 5. ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Ms. 5. Allied with the traditional conservative movement is Fox News Channel and Newsmax. But Newsmax's audience isn't at the level yet to come close to the others. Okay, so the messaging that the far left progressive movement puts out as well as the Democratic Party gets vastly heard more than the traditional message just by the nature of the communication through the television news agencies. And it's the same thing on social media, about 5 to 1 liberal to conservative sites. So any kind of hatred is amplified at a much greater level on the progressive left, again, you can't refute. It is absolutely true, so to say. Oh, oh, no. They both do it. Well, there are loons in both parties or extremists. But on the right, you don't have nearly the megaphone, not even close. And the money factor that drives these social media operations from the progressive point of view is in the billions with a B. Billions of dollars pouring into the media matters and all these other places. Right. Doesn't have that. Okay, that's number one. Number two, the progressive movement in America wants to overhaul or overthrow in some cases, the entire American system. They don't like capitalism. They don't want laws enforced. They don't like religion. They want to overthrow it all. It's like the Revolutionary War. The rabid people, the loudest voices were the patriots who wanted to throw the king out. They got all the attention. They were the rebel rousers. Okay, because the other people, 50% of them back then, wanted to stay with the king, but they didn't say much or they'd be tarred and feathered. Now the, the progressive movement is the rebellion. So they're 10 times as loud as a so called silent majority. And again, it's picked up and amplified by a very sympathetic national media. You see, see where we're going here? So if you are an unstable, mentally ill person and you live in the progressive world, you are constantly agitated. That's what happened to Utah. This kid was in the dark precincts. Agitation, agitation, agitation. And boom. He splits, he breaks. Same thing with the kid in Butler. Okay? Try to kill President Trump. All right, now, everything I have said in the last 7 minutes and 49 seconds is true. No. What about none of this? None of that. Solid rock truth. So, Ken, do you get it now? Are you getting it that the hatred is driven? It's not unique to the progressive left. There is plenty of hatred on the crank right, but they don't have the ability to get it out there.

[A]

You're listening to a special edition of the no Spin News.

[B]

The right wing, some. The activist part of it is embracing cancel culture now. And it's a little bit disturbing. Now, a number of people have been fired from their jobs. Went over yesterday and that list is mounting. We'll have an update tomorrow. State of Texas leading the league here. And they acted inappropriately in the wake of Mr. Kirk's murder. So they lost their jobs, lost their livelihoods, lost their. And a number of conservatives are celebrating that. Not me. I think that it is absolutely atrocious that anyone would celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk or any other person unless that person were Hitler or Stalin or, you know, somebody whose act of evil is murdering people. If Putin were assassinated tomorrow, I'm not going to be sad, okay? But there's a degree. So Vice President Vance has gotten involved with all of this. Roll a tape.

[A]

So when you see someone celebrating Charlie's murder, call them out in hell. Call their employer. We don't believe in political violence, but we do believe in civility. And there is no civility in the celebration of political assassination. Get involved, get involved, get involved. It's the best way to honor Charlie's legacy.

[B]

But be careful because dishonest people can use that cancel culture for revenge, for denial of due process, for rumor. So if you're going to follow the vice president advice, you have to have heard what happened or saw it yourself. Let's face it, the US Economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious Metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text box bill to 998899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text bill to 998899. Let's face it, the U.S. economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401, tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A plus from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998-899. Again, that's 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998-899. No water cooler gossip, no social media. You have to have it. And then you have to think about is it worth harming this person's life? Is this person bringing a negativity to your life? Your kids, educators. That's the top, by the way. So if it's a teacher spreading around far left propaganda was jumping up and down with joy that Charlie Kirk is dead. I'd report that person in a second. A doctor, somebody in a position of authority, Boom. But I have to see it. I can't just hear it because there are people will use this kind of a volatile situation for revenge on a person they don't like. Okay. Now, there was a website, the Charlie Kirk Data foundation, they took it down, but it was trying to compile without checking because you couldn't check it. Accusations that people were celebrating Mr. Kirk's murder. I'm glad it's down. But before it went down, it raised a lot of money. It could have been a scam. Okay. And it was the worst. It was the worst. Tell us on the website the name and address of these people who you think are acting inappropriately dangerous. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Okay. But that went up and running. It's not there anymore. Could come back now. The far left knows it's in trouble. There's no doubt it does. And we're going to have an interview with Tim Graham who follows the media and talk about that. But they have to be very cautious now because Matthew Dowd, MSNBC or whatever it is, got fired. Okay. And Washington Post, I'll tell you about her in a moment. Got fired. They have to be. They're really on the defensive. They don't like it. Here's leftist Brian Stelter on cnn. Go.

[A]

So you have this now coordinated conservative.

[B]

Campaign to try to get people fired.

[A]

For a wide range of opinions. And look, this is a new form of cancel culture. You know, something that the right complained about when, you know, they were saying the left was targeting people four, five, six years ago. The truth is cancel culture never goes away.

[B]

It just changes shape. But we didn't hear much objection about the cancel culture from cnn, did we? And how do I know that? Because I was a target of it. They tried to take me out, they failed. And I'm more powerful than ever before. But they took out a lot of other people. The left took them out and they excluded people. They gave them excuse. All the networks, all of them, all three have excluded traditional conservative voices for the past, what, 10 years since Trump entered the arena. Couldn't get on there. I did an interview yesterday with Major Garrett, an old Fox News colleague who works for CBS. First time in 10 years. And the only reason that interview took place, and Garrett's a good guy, is they sold it. CBS was sold the sky dance, which is apparently not going to put up with this blackballing cancel culture stuff. Good. Now I got to get a hold of that Garrett interview so I can put it on a website. It was a good interview. First time in ten years. Okay. Because they didn't want all three of the networks. Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty. All right. We're not going to. Nope. Only progressive points of view are allowed. That's really bad. So you know Stelter, you know who he is? I'm not even going to bother with him. The Washington Post is a left wing newspaper. There's no doubt about it. Has been forever. I don't know. Last time I endorsed a Republican for president, I think it was 1920 or someplace like that. Boston Globe, New York Times, L.A. times, Chicago Tribune, Atlanta Constitution, right down the list. They're all, all progressive. They fired a woman named Karen Attia, 38 years old, the global opinions columnist. They fired her, which is unbelievable. She had been there. 10 years, 11 years, African American woman. You fire her now. Here's why she got fired. I'm going to put this up full screen. I'll read it to you guys listening on the radio. Quote, for everyone saying political violence is no place in this country, Remember, two Democrat legislators were shot in Minnesota just this year. And America shrugged and moved on. Well, I didn't shrug, lady. I thought it was appalling. Part of what keeps America so violent is the insistence that people perform care, empty goodness and absolution for white men who espouse hatred and violence. Unquote. There you go. White men, the root of all evil. God. Washington Post sends her a letter. Quote, karen, I am writing to inform you that the Post is terminating your employment effective immediately, for gross misconduct. Your public comments on social media regarding death of Charlie Kirk violate the Post. Social media policies harm the integrity of our organization, potentially endanger the physical safety of our staff. That's from Wayne Connell, Chief HR Officer, Washington Post. So she's out of there. Okay. Again, extremely unusual. You saw Joy Reid, Tiffany Cross, NBC, Let them go. Same reason white men, White men. White men demonize, demonize, demonize. That's racism, no doubt about it. And I'm going to give Mr. T at the last word here, to be fair, she replied to her termination this way. Quote, the Post accused my measured blue sky post, that's an Internet site, being unacceptable, gross misconduct and of endangering the physical safety of colleagues. Charges without evidence, which I reject completely as false. Unquote. Okay, so, summing up, the far left progressive movement is under fire. It is on notice, to use a cliche, and they are being very cautious.

[A]

You're listening to a special edition of the no Spin News.

[B]

So we are all being misled by the First Amendment. Not by the Amendment itself, which is pristine, but by how it's being interpreted. And all of this has come to light in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination. So old adage, anything you say can and will be used against you. I'm the poster boy for that. Twisted, turned, you know, out of context, whatever it may be. But the First Amendment is our most important freedom. And I hate to see it abused the way it is right now. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. So let's define. What we're talking about here is the First Amendment, quote, congress should make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof, or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Unquote. Brilliant. That's James Madison with an assist from Thomas Jefferson and a little advice from Benjamin Franklin. Brilliant. Holds up. But freedom of speech now is being used in a very political way and it's getting to be dangerous. So let me run it down and back up what I say. We begin with Attorney General Pam Bondi, who a couple of days ago was talking about the danger of hate speech. Roll the tape. We've been fighting these universities left and right, and we're not going to stop there. There's free speech and then there's hate speech. And there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society. Do you see more law enforcement going after these groups who are using hate speech and putting cuffs on people? So we show them that some action is better than no action. We will absolutely target you, go after you if you are targeting any. Anyone with hate speech, anything.

[A]

And that's across the aisle, okay?

[B]

But it has to be a direct line before the Justice Department gets involved. So there has to be what they call cause and effect. You say something and that puts a person in danger or harms that person in some way, the line has got to be direct, can't be indirect, can't be theoretical or any of that. So Ms. Bondi, under some pressure, had to clarify what she said. And here is the quote. Hate speech that crosses the line at the. Threats of violence is not protected by the First Amendment. It's a crime far too long. We've watched a radical left normalized threats call for assassinations, cheer on political violence. That era is over. Under 18 USC 875C, it is a federal crime to transmit any communication containing any threat, to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another. Okay? And that's fine, and that's a law and it should be upheld. But again, it is a direct line. Evidence has to be there. I am going to kill you, Mr. Brown.

[A]

This episode is brought to you by Onnit. Want to know the secret to staying locked in? Onnit Alpha Brain. This daily supplement is jam packed with click clinically studied ingredients that support focus, memory and mental speed. Whether you're in your daily grind or deep in the Zone, Onnit Alpha Brain helps you stay razor sharp. Visit Onnit.com for 15% off. Subscribe and save and see what your brain can really do. Charlie Sheen is an icon of decadence.

[B]

I lit the fuse and my life turns into everything.

[A]

It wasn't supposed to be. He's going the distance.

[B]

He was the highest paid TV star of all time. When it started to change, it was quick.

[A]

He kept saying, no, no, no, I'm in the hospital now, but next week.

[B]

I'll be ready for the show.

[A]

Now, Charlie sober, he's going to tell you the truth.

[B]

How do I present this with any class?

[A]

I think we're past that, Charlie. We're past that.

[B]

Yeah. Somebody call action.

[A]

AKA Charlie Sheen, now playing only on Netflix.

[B]

All right, now, you threaten somebody like that, the cops are going to show up. If you defame somebody, the civil lawyers will show up. You do not have the right to do that. We all clear? Okay. So the leftist media, of which Ms. Bondi is referring, and President Trump does it all day long, too, wants to change the country, all right? They, they don't like the country the way it is, and they want fundamental changes. So they have glommed on to the progressive left and the leftist media, the five major national networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, Ms. and CNN, they torture President Trump, and I use the word literally, they torture him. And he believes that this is a form of hate speech, which you could make an argument for that, but not a legal argument, can make a moral argument that they hate him so much, the networks, that it is way out of proportion, harming the nation. So one of the chief offenders in President Trump's mind is ABC News correspondent Carl. Jonathan Karl. All right, And Carl approached the President before he left for England. Roll it. And what do you think? Pam Bondi saying she's going to go after hate speech? Is that, I mean, a lot of.

[A]

People, a lot of your allies say.

[B]

Hate speech is free speech, probably go after people like you because you treat.

[A]

Me so unfairly and say you have.

[B]

A lot of hate in your heart. Maybe they'll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me $16 million recently for a form of hate speech. Right. Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech. So maybe they'll have to go after you. Now, the President is being facetious. He's just given Carl jazz. But a liberal friend of mine who should know better texted me and said, oh, look at this, he's ready. He said, come on, President Trump does that stuff all the time. It's not to justify it. You don't take it seriously. He's not going to go after Jonathan Karl. The 16 million, of course, was referring to Stepanopoulos on ABC, who called Trump a rapist. And that wasn't backed up by anything. So ABC had to pay all that money to the Trump Library. All right, now we go to Whoopi Goldberg. Ms. Goldberg is a sincere individual. It's not a phony like some of the others are, but she lives in a world of her own, so she is now talking about speech as well. Go. I always thought that this administration campaigned on ending the weaponization of free speech. So I know there's a lot of stuff people say that I don't like. I don't like it. But as an American, I have the right to say I don't like it. And they have the right to say it. But not on the View. They don't have the right to say it on the View because the View has not booked one conservative guest this year. Not one. I used to go on there all the time. I'm not conservative, but I certainly lean traditional when Barbara Walters is running the show. So Whoopi Goldberg is. Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. I could say. You could say that's all good. Well, why don't you have any other voices on your show? Every voice you have, every guest you have is a liberal. Everyone. So this is freedom of speech. No, it's not. Because you're censoring one whole part of the country, refusing to allow them a forum to be heard. See that freedom of speech, if it's excluded, doesn't exist. If you can't say in a forum, which you'd like to say, you don't have freedom of speech. And that is what the five liberal networks have done. They worked it out totally. At least on Fox News. They don't have too many, but they have some liberal voices. Not on the View. Not one Colbert. Not one. The only non liberal he brought on in the entire year is Liz Cheney, who hates Trump. And that's the only reason she was there, so she could hate him more on television. All right. And it goes down the line, you know, I'm doing a book tour for confronting evil. You're not going to see me on a Sunday morning CBS program which sells books, does a big author thing. They don't book anybody who's not liberal. Thank you, Jane Pauly, that's very, very nice of you. Freedom of speech doesn't exist. That is the con c o n all the liberals. Oh, yeah, I'm free of speech. Yeah, yeah. But not on my show. Oh, no, I'm booking you. Oh, it really. You know, I'm sitting back here going, and I'm glad I'm being able to tell you this, because I'm sure it Never occurred to you? Because you can't monitor what's happening on these programs every day. I can. You can, but that's what's happening. It's been happening for 10 years, ever since Trump got into the political arena. So just sum it up. You have to be realistic about this. Pam Bondi wants to go after freedom of speech and say certain types of it are violent, lead to violence. She can do that. That is legitimate. But it's a very narrow window. Very narrow. It can't be an opinion. It's got to be a threat. All right, But Justice Department has the power. You threat a president of the United States, you're going to get arrested. Secret Service going to come to your house or senator or a Supreme Court person, any of that. If you threaten your neighbor, and your neighbor can prove it that this person wants to do me harm, you're going to be in trouble. Now there is a glimmer of hope. So yesterday I did an interview with Major Garrett, my old colleague at Fox News, now work for cbs, and he's a good reporter. And he called me and said, look, you want to talk about confronting evil in the State of the Union? I said, sure. So I did a long thing. Which we posted on billorilly.com youm can see the whole thing, but I'm gonna just give you a clip now. I was surprised to get that invitation because for 10 years we didn't get any invitations from any network for anything. Roll a tape. In terms of phraseology and definition, Bill.

[A]

Is there a practical and important difference between the left in America and the radical left?

[B]

Yeah, there's a difference, but you don't hear from the moderate left because all the money and all the amplification is on the radical left. So the big Soros money and the big dark money going in, they're not going to agencies that are traditionally liberal. They're going to, let's blow it up. And that's. And then that's amplified on social media. They want clicks. Well, who's going to get the clicks? The people that are saying the most outrageous stuff. And it works on the right, too, but the right doesn't have the centrality that the progressive left has. And plus, you got five networks that are sympathetic to the progressive left and one network that's sympathetic to the traditional conservatives. So you're heavily outnumbered there as well. All right, so again, I was surprised to get the invitation. I was pleased to get it. We want to get the word out all over the place, but there's a lot of the censorship going on now. And I'm trying to break it down, almost single handedly trying to break it down. And there's other things that I'm not ready to tell you about that are disturbing. But when I nail it all down, I will. And the reason that CBS did allow me to go on with Major Garrison because they've had a management change. Skydance bought it, as you know. And Skydance doesn't want to be exclusionary, which is great. And I'm hoping that CBS rises.

[A]

You're listening to a special edition of the no Spin News.

[B]

Now. The Talking Points Memo this evening is about the dismissal of Jimmy Kimmel. I knew this was coming. I'm going to play a soundbite in a couple of minutes where I mentioned it in July because the late night comedians, particularly Colbert and Kimmel, got sucked into a swamp of hate. Trump. Hating Trump isn't funny. It's not entertaining. You can't make a song about it. There's nothing other than vitriolic politics involved with hating Trump. Nothing. So if you are on an entertainment program like the Late Nights and all you're doing is hating on the president and then hating the people who support the president, 77 million of them, you're not on the right road. You're not on the road to success. You don't have to pander, but you don't have to be obsessed. And Jimmy Kimmel became obsessed with Donald Trump. Donald Trump destroyed Jimmy Kimmel's career. He may resurrect somewhere else, but to lose that purge, to lose that job is a big one. Now it all happened because Kimmel said something tremendously inappropriate on Monday night. Nation is still very raw over the murder of Charlie Kirk. And here's what Kimmel said.

[A]

We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.

[B]

A message from McAfee wondering why the.

[A]

Post office is texting you or why you owe thousands of dollars in toll fees because someone's trying to scam you. The good news, McAfee can help with McAfee's award winning scam detection.

[B]

It's easy to tell what's real and what's fake over text in your inbox and online. If they're you want a free gift. Seriously, if they're faking it, they're not making it past us. Get award winning scam detection today.

[A]

McAfee.com Keep it real. ABC Tonight, Dancing with the Stars is back with an all new celebrity cast. You have the crew, Robert Irwin, Alex Earl, Andy Richter, Jen Affleck, Baron Davis, Lauren Howreggi, Whitney Levitt, Dylan Efron, Jordan Childs, Hilaria Baldwin, Scott Hoy, Elaine Hendricks, Danielle Fishel and Corey Feldman. This season, get ready to feel the rhythm if you got it. Flaunted. Dancing with the Stars premieres live tonight, 8, 7 Central on ABC and Disney, plus next day on Hulu.

[B]

Okay? The assassin of Charlie Kirk had nothing to do with maga, okay? And so to say that that is in play, which is an untruth. All right, now why did he do it? The guy's got 10 writers, he's got producers, and nobody said to him, hey, Jim, this might be inappropriate. And the reason maybe they did, I don't know. But he didn't listen. And he didn't listen because he's consumed with partisan politics. Jimmy Kimmel has not put on a conservative pundit or voice the whole year. He's like Colbert. The only voice that wasn't liberal on Colbert show this entire year was Liz Cheney, who hates Trump. Same thing with the View. We went over that yesterday. No, it's a total blackout of traditional conservative voices on abc, NBC, cbs. Total blackout. That is the story. That's Putin's stuff, that's China stuff. Totalitarian stuff. You cannot be heard if you don't toe the liberal line. Now, I talked about this in July, okay? And here's what I said. Go. Now, I think this is a bigger story than Stephen Colbert. And I predicted, as you know, that Colbert would go and there are going to be some people on the View that are going to go and Kimmel possible. Now, nothing has happened on the View, but I suspect it will. So what really happened? So I got a call from a very powerful television executive yesterday afternoon after we taped this program and he said there's a revolt among the station groups. That means that ABC owns some of the affiliates, but the others are owned by other corporations like nexstar, like Sinclair. They own the stations outright and they buy ABC's product. A number of them, led by Nexstar, said to ABC in Burbank, California, Bob Iger, CEO, we're not taking Kimmel anymore. The outrage over what he said on Monday and all of the other censorship that he does, hey, Trump, stuff that he does, we're not taking anymore. Disney panicked, okay? Absolute panic and had to get out in front of it because they were going to lose 30, 40 affiliates were going to fire Kimmel themselves. So Disney says, we'll fire him, too. That's corporate America. That's what corporate America does. Always folds. Always 100% of the time. And Kimmel then, by all accounts, was surprised. I don't know why we'd be surprised. I mean, come on, you can't say on your program that MAGA people are somewhat responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. That's defamatory. It's a lie. It's not even close to being funny. What the deuce are you doing? There is a responsibility. In addition, the government licenses abc, CBS, and NBC. Let me explain this. When television was first invented in the late 1940s, the airwaves were public. And the three networks said, well, we want. We have television. We want to broadcast over the airwaves. The government said, we. Okay, but you have to get a license, and you have to live up to some standards. You can't say the F word. You can't have naked people running around. So we'll give you the license. But you got to obey the rules because it's free. The airwaves are owned by the people, the American people. It's free. So the networks have to comply with the federal government. Not cable, because you pay for cable. Not social media, because you pay for social media. We don't have to comply with anything. We can get in trouble. We can hold it to court. But no government regulates. But they do regulate the networks. So the fcc, now controlled by the Trump administration, is horrified by the total blackout of any conservative voice. It's horrifying. And the hate Trump stuff. So the head of the FCC is Brendan Carr. Here's what he said. There's calls for him to be fired. I think, you know, you could certainly.

[A]

See a path forward for suspension over this.

[B]

And again, you know, the FCC is going to have remedies that we could look at. And again, you know, we may ultimately be called to be a judge on that. And that message got across to Disney, okay? And Disney has already had to pay President Trump $16 million because George Stepanopoulos, one of their correspondents, called Trump a rapist. And that's not true. So Disney could see that its whole franchise was going down a drain. The government's coming after that. So Kimmel was the human sacrifice. He got thrown overboard. But there's plenty of reason on September 2nd. I mean, he. Kimmel was unrelenting. He wouldn't stop. It was every night. I'll just give you one example. Roll September 2nd.

[A]

Here's the thing. Donald Trump will never die. Forget it. He's like Dracula. He's gonna keep sucking the life out of us forever. There will be no more trans in Transylvania when he is done.

[B]

Okay? And that's harmless. But it was every single night competing with Colbert, who can bash Trump the most. And remember, there was no bashing of Biden for four years. So this was ranked partisanship. Now, it wasn't always so. So I was on the Kimmel program five times. I got along very well with him, and he was very nice to me and my staff. We'd go in, he. His studio is in West Hollywood. We'd have some snacks, he'd come in, few laughs, give me a sweatshirt, whatever it may be. So I'm at the Emmys. Very cordial. I had a very, very good relationship with the man. This was before the rise of Donald Trump. And I'll just give you one taste of it. So on February 10, 2015, killing Patton was out, and I was promoting it on Kimmel. Roll it.

[A]

One of the things that I have to say knocked me out and I went crazy. Telling everyone within earshot is that Hitler had a condition. I don't know if it's a disease or condition called meteorism.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And what is that?

[B]

Flatulence.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Hitler, Hitler.

[A]

As if we didn't have enough reasons to dislike this guy, was constantly letting gas.

[B]

He had every condition in the world. Evil feeds upon itself. And, you know, he was such an evil person that you just like consume from within. But can you imagine in the bunker with Adolf, can you imagine how that was? Because there were no windows to open. You know, you go out, you get a fresh air, you get a bullet in the head. So it's either Hitler or the bullet.

[A]

Maybe that's why he grew the mustache as like a filter kind of self defense of some kind.

[B]

Never thought of that, but that's possible. All right, so it was the normal interaction. And let me make one more point. I'm not happy. Jim Kimmel got fired. And I know a lot of people are, including the President. We'll play you his sound bite in a moment. I was very impressed with Mr. Kimmel because his young son had a very serious medical. Kimmel doesn't make a big deal out of it, but Kimmel was a very heroic parent, and I weigh things like that. So I'm not happy about what has happened to him. But I'm confused. I really am. And I got a message to Kimmel, I would say about a year ago through Adam Carolla, whose friend he said, look, Jim, why don't you give me a call, because this isn't going the right direction for you and your family. Of course he didn't call, but I would have told him. I said, look, you're getting consumed by hatred, and every human being who's consumed by hatred goes down. Everyone. And that's what happened to Jimmy Kimmel.

[A]

Thank you for listening. Remember to subscribe to the Bill O'Reilly podcast feed and consider becoming a premium or concierge [e-mail] Sam.