No Spin News - TPM Edition - September 26, 2025

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Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: No Spin News - TPM Edition - September 26, 2025
Date: September 27, 2025
Host: Bill O'Reilly

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Overview

This episode of No Spin News and Analysis centers on major national events involving the assassination and memorial of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, President Trump’s U.N. speech and policy positions, media controversy surrounding Jimmy Kimmel, and broader themes of forgiveness, political legacy, freedom of speech, and international affairs. Bill O’Reilly offers his trademark commentary and analysis, interweaving audio clips with pointed reflection and advice for political and media figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Charlie Kirk Memorial: Forgiveness, Faith, and Political Legacy

Segment Begins: [01:07]

• Massive Outpouring at the Memorial:
  O’Reilly details the size and emotional charge of Charlie Kirk’s memorial service, emphasizing the crowd and widespread media coverage.

  • “More than a hundred thousand people showed up, which is an extraordinary showing of support for Charlie Kirk and his family.” ([01:07])

• Erica Kirk’s Poignant Eulogy:
  Erica Kirk, Charlie’s widow, delivers a moving address focused on faith, forgiveness, and legacy.

  • Notable Quote:
    “Charlie’s life was a turning point for this country. It was a miracle. Let that miracle that was Charlie’s life be your turning point as well. Choose prayer. Choose courage. Choose beauty. Choose adventure. Choose family. Choose a life of faith. Most importantly, choose Christ.” — Erica Kirk ([02:19])

  • O’Reilly notes some secular pushback but defends the message as contextually appropriate given Kirk’s conservative Christian background.

• Extraordinary Forgiveness:
  Erica’s public forgiveness of her husband’s assassin stands out as a powerful moment.

  • Notable Quote:
    “My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life … I forgive him.” — Erica Kirk ([03:58])
  • O’Reilly admits he struggles with such benevolence and discusses Christian theology on forgiveness, questioning the practicality of forgiveness without repentance.
    • “I have a hard time forgiving evil unless there's repentance … If they don't and they continue their evil ways…what do you do?” — Bill O’Reilly ([05:00])

• President Trump’s Response:
  Trump’s speech at the memorial, particularly his candid divergence from Kirk’s position on loving one’s enemies, draws attention.

  • Notable Quote:
    “He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry … But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group and maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent.” — Donald Trump ([07:29])
  • O’Reilly sees this as a rare moment of presidential honesty.

O’Reilly’s Takeaways:

• Kirk’s death and the reaction to it solidify the power and future influence of the conservative Christian movement, with Erica Kirk now its new public face.
• The relationship between private forgiveness and public justice is deeply complex in America’s culture wars.

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2. President Trump’s United Nations Speech

Segment Begins: [12:38]

• Trump’s UN Critique:
  The host recounts Trump’s equipment snafus on arrival and summarizes the speech as a condemnation of the U.N. as ineffectual and dominated by “one world leftists.”

  • “The United nations is useless because it's run by one world leftists … You’re not in the business to help calm wars down or do anything other than promote leftist ideology.” — Bill O’Reilly ([12:38])

• Domestic Politics at the UN:
  Trump references U.S. recovery and his administration’s success, mostly to fulfill personal political messaging rather than impact the international audience.

  • Notable Quote:
    “Here in the United States, four years of weakness, lawlessness, and radicalism under the last administration delivered our nation into a repeated set of disasters. … Today, just eight months into my administration, we are the hottest country anywhere in the world, and there is no other country even close.” — Donald Trump ([14:30])
  • O’Reilly calls this a “pep talk,” not very effective at the UN but possibly true of America’s economic standing.

• Critique of US Allies Over Ukraine:
  Trump criticizes European and NATO countries for continuing to buy Russian oil, thus prolonging the Ukraine conflict.

  • Notable Quote:
    “They're funding the war against themselves. Who the hell ever heard of that one? In the event that Russia is not ready to make a deal to end the war, then the United States is fully prepared to impose a very strong round of powerful tariffs...” — Donald Trump ([17:33])
  • O’Reilly wishes Trump had called out specific countries enabling Russia and dubs it a “scandal.”

• Migration and Crime:
  Trump ties high foreign prison populations in Europe to migration issues, giving statistics from several countries.

  • Notable Quote:
    “According to the Council of Europe, in 2024, almost 50% of inmates in German prisons were foreign nationals or migrants. … In Switzerland, 72% of the people in prisons are from outside of Switzerland.” — Donald Trump ([20:24])

• Climate Change as a ‘Scam’:
  Trump derides global warming policies as a con, claiming “green energy” efforts threaten the future.

  • Memorable Moment:
    “Trump was Right about everything … if you don't get away from the green energy scam, your country is going to fail.” ([21:22])

• China, Russia, and Possibility of Deals:
  Trump carefully avoids antagonizing Putin and Xi Jinping, with O’Reilly suggesting this is a calculated move given potential diplomatic developments.

  • O'Reilly: “Trump did not want to antagonize … Putin or Xi in this speech. … The Chinese are going to make a deal with us. It’s going to be very helpful for the world.” ([21:47])

• On Gaza and the Palestinian State:
  Trump and O’Reilly both state there’s no viable Palestinian state to recognize due to ongoing control by terrorist factions.

  • “If you prop up a Palestinian state, this is a reward to Hamas. That’s why the USA won’t do it.” — Bill O’Reilly ([24:08])

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3. Jimmy Kimmel, Free Speech, and Media Bias

Segment Begins: [24:13]

• Kimmel’s Return Amid Controversy:
  O'Reilly covers Jimmy Kimmel’s first show after controversy over his comments about Kirk’s assassination. Kimmel offers some reflection, but stops short of outright apology.

  • Notable Quotes:
    “It was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man, but I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both.” — Jimmy Kimmel ([26:54]) “If you like me, like me. If you don’t, you don’t. I have no illusions about changing anyone’s mind...” — Jimmy Kimmel ([26:54])
  • O'Reilly calls Kimmel’s explanation “rational” but insists the problem is inserting false politics too soon after a tragedy.

• Freedom of Expression:
  Kimmel expresses gratitude for living in a country that allows vigorous satire, warning against escalating attempts to cancel or ban voices.

  • Notable Quote:
    “This show is not important. What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this. … Freedom to speak is what they admire most about this country.” — Jimmy Kimmel ([29:05])
  • O’Reilly clarifies there was no government attempt to silence Kimmel; rather, it was affiliate backlash due to audience outrage. He criticizes Kimmel and other late-night hosts for ideological “zealotry” and refusing to platform dissenting viewpoints.
    • “Jimmy personally, don’t be a zealot, okay? … You simply don’t know as much as it would take to do the analysis you’re trying to do. You don’t know because you don’t try to find out. You live in a bubble.” — Bill O’Reilly ([29:58])

• Big Media and Cancel Culture:

  • O’Reilly objects to cancel culture while warning both liberal and conservative figures to act out of responsibility and knowledge, not just tribalism.

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Memorable Moments & Noteworthy Quotes

• “Erica Kirk stunned the world, I would think … she forgives the assassin.” — Bill O’Reilly ([05:00])
• “He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry.” — Donald Trump ([07:29])
• “This show is not important. What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this.” — Jimmy Kimmel ([29:05])
• “Stop being a zealot... That’s not what ABC hired you to do ... when you ban all non liberal voices on your show ... That's Putin's stuff.” — Bill O’Reilly ([29:58])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:07] Charlie Kirk memorial coverage begins
• [02:19] Erica Kirk’s eulogy — “Choose Christ”
• [03:58] Erica Kirk forgives her husband’s killer
• [07:29] President Trump at the Kirk memorial — honesty about forgiveness
• [12:38] Trump’s UN speech and O’Reilly’s analysis
• [14:30] Trump critiques prior U.S. administration at the UN
• [17:33] Trump blasts European countries buying Russian oil
• [20:24] Trump on migration and foreign prison populations
• [21:22] Trump on global warming as a ‘scam’
• [24:13] Jimmy Kimmel controversy and O’Reilly’s commentary
• [26:54] Kimmel clarifies intent, addresses controversy
• [29:05] Kimmel on freedom of expression
• [29:58] O’Reilly’s direct advice to Kimmel and Trump

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Tone & Language

Bill O'Reilly maintains his signature direct, occasionally combative tone—critical but occasionally sympathetic toward even those he disagrees with. The episode is high in political and cultural analysis, punctuated by human moments, emotional reflection, and pointed advice to key figures across the spectrum.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a vivid cross-section of American social and political dynamics: the power of faith and forgiveness in tragedy, the polarization of public figures, and the continuing battle over who controls the national conversation. O’Reilly, with characteristic candor, challenges both institutions and individuals to act with greater integrity, knowledge, and openness.

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Erica Kirk]

You're gonna save the day like you always do by being smart, sharp, and almost always by mistake.

[Podcast Host/Announcer]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, come on.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Whatever.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

More than a hundred thousand people showed up, which is an extraordinary showing of support for Charlie Kirk and his family. I'm taking this from the Glendale police estimate. Some people say there were 200,000. It was packed. Cables took it, but networks did not. Networks had football and other things. And I understood that cables were there. They ran it. CNN, MS, FNC, News Nation, and generally speaking, I was popping back and forth. They covered it straight. Wasn't a bunch of afterward, there was a problem, and I'll tell you about that in a moment. But as the coverage unfolded, it was fine, very emotional, and the star of the show, if you want to use that context. But the most memorable person in the memorial service was Erica Kirk, Charlie's widow. And she did an extraordinary thing. And I'm sure you heard it, but I want to put it into the proper perspective. Roll a tape.

[Erica Kirk]

Charlie's life was a turning point for this country. It was a miracle. Let that miracle that was Charlie's life be your turning point as well. Choose prayer. Choose courage. Choose beauty. Choose adventure. Choose family. Choose a life of faith. Most importantly, choose Christ.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, now, some objected to that. You know, the atheist is secularist, but why would you. Charlie Kirk's movement, Turning Point was essentially a conservative Christian movement. So you remember that there was a period of time about 10, 15 years ago when conservative Christians had their own. And they still to this day have their own network. And they, you know, but that Kirk was Political, but he was also theological. So that was perfectly in context. To talk about the man's legacy, you would have to do that. So I know some people went, oh, you know, hey, conservative Christians are entitled to tell you and everybody else what their belief system is. And this was certainly in context then. Erica Kirk stunned the world, I would think, roll it.

[Erica Kirk]

My husband Charlie, he wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life. That young man, that young man on the cross, our Savior said, father, forgive them for they not know what they do. That man, that young man, man, I forgive him.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Now that was a unbelievably powerful moment, particularly when you put it into the context of that Erica has at home a three year old daughter and a one year old son. And the daughter's going, where's Daddy? Can you imagine? I can't, I can't. Yet she, and I think very sincerely said that she forgives the assassin. And I'm not at the level of Erica Kirk. I have a hard time with this and I'm going to play a soundbite from the President in a moment. Who. He and I are on the same wavelength here. I have a very hard time forgiving evil unless there's repentance. So in my book Confronting Evil, none of the 15 miscreants ever showed any sign of remorse for their horrible, horrible deeds. I don't know about this guy in Utah. You know, we, we don't have access to him. But after he shot and killed Charlie Kirk, there was no thread go, what did I do? Or anything like that. I have a hard time. I've talked about this to Catholic theologians at a very high level. I said, look, I'm supposed to forgive Hitler, I'm supposed to forgive Mao, I'm supposed to forgive Stalin, the slavers, the robber barons, the assassins, Leo Riwal. And they don't repent. There's no I'm sorry. If you're a Christian and somebody asks you for forgiveness and I'm sorry, you have to forgive them or you have to resign, because that's the theology. But if they don't and they continue their evil ways, and the only reason that this assassin can't do more damage is because he's incarcerated, what do you do? So, but again, I am not as benevolent a person as Erica Kirk. So then the President picked up on that and now his speech was written for him, as almost every President does, but he ad libbed this part. Roll the tape.

[Donald Trump]

In that private moment on his dying day, we find everything we need to know about who Charlie Kirk truly was. He was a missionary with a noble spirit and a great, great purpose. He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them. That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent and I don't want the best for them. I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erica. But now Erica can talk to me and the whole group and maybe they can convince me that that's not right. But I can't stand my opponent.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, he's an honest guy anyway, you know, and again, I got a list. You know, I got a list and boy, and I know that Donald Trump, you know, people try to destroy him and his family very, very hard. But that goes back to Mrs. Kirk. The president then picked up on the legacy. What does this all mean for the country? Roll it. Let's face it, the US economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401 tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text BILL to 998-8999.

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[Donald Trump]

And eternal debt of gratitude. Now, just like Charlie and Erica made turning Point hot. We are looking at a country that has the chance to attain a level like never before. Tariffs are making us rich again, richer than anybody ever thought was as possible. And the only one challenging them are people that hate our country or foreign countries that are paying a price because they did the same thing to us for years. They took advantage of us.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, it's negatively political. And again, some people objected, but I'm saying, okay, I understand the objection, but it's perfectly in a context to what Charlie Kirk did. And he lost his life because he spoke out on policy. So Mr. Kirk was killed because of his political point of view. And so when you have a president there, knows the world is listening, he's going to reinforce that point of view because he knows that everybody in the arena is on his side. And Charlie Kirk's side would I have done it probably a little differently, but it was not out of context, as some people are saying, in my opinion. So, again, the legacy will be the conservative Christian movement will become more powerful, particularly because Erica Kirk is now in charge and extraordinary woman, that's for sure.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

A very interesting speech by President Trump at the UN this morning. So he's on his way in with Melania and the escalator stops working. Okay? Then he gets to the forum and the teleprompter breaks down and you get to see Trump just reinforces his opinion that the entire United nations thing is amateur hour. Trump has no use for this crew at all. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. All right, so he goes to the UN and he's got a speech that lasts 50 pretty long. And he wanted to make a few points. The biggest point is that the United nations is useless because it's run by one world leftists. That was the overarched point for all the nations. Look, we in the United States. I'm paraphrasing President Trump, we know who you are. And you're not in the business to help calm wars down or do anything other than promote leftist ideology. That was what Mr. Trump wanted to get across. Okay? It's appropriate you make up your mind on it. But that's what he wanted to do. Now, he began by talking about US Politics. Now, he knows, you know, I know nobody in that room gives a wit about US Politics. But Donald Trump cannot help himself. He can't roll the tape.

[Donald Trump]

And here in the United States, four years of weakness, lawlessness, and radicalism under the last administration delivered our nation into a repeated set of disasters. One year ago, our country was in deep trouble. But today, just eight months into my administration, we are the hottest country anywhere in the world, and there is no other country even close.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Did that impress anybody at the United Nations? No. Is it true? Maybe. Certainly, we are the most powerful economic engine in the world. There's no doubt about that. And if all of Donald Trump's policies are successful, we are going to be much stronger than we were before he came into office a second time. I think those two things are true. I know they're true. Now, Donald Trump is frustrated because he doesn't get credit overseas or in the United States for solving conflicts. He says he stopped seven wars. That's true to some extent. I mean, each situation is different. But he put the arm on 14 different countries and said, you better knock it off or we'll punish you. The United States will punish you. That's a pretty big incentive to knock it off. And then he sweetens it up. You know, if you stop the fighting, we'll do this, we'll do that. That's how Trump deals. Okay, But Trump is angry because nobody publicizes that. And the United nations didn't help him go.

[Donald Trump]

But later I realized that the United nations wasn't there for us. They weren't there. I thought of it really, after the fact. Not during. Not during these negotiations, which were not easy. That being the case, what is the purpose of the United Nations? The UN has such tremendous potential, I've always said has such tremendous, tremendous potential, but it's not even coming close to living up to that potential.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Now, that is a scolding of the U.N. the individual countries sitting there, they don't care. U.N. officials probably care. But what are they going to do now in Ukraine, which is obviously the biggest issue right now overseas, Trump was. He didn't spend a lot of time on it. He only mentioned Putin's name once because he's still hopeful that he can somehow maneuver Bad Vlad into stopping the mass killing for no reason. Why is he doing this? All right, so he dealt with Ukraine by scolding our allies. American allies. Go.

[Donald Trump]

China and India are the primary funders of the ongoing war by continuing to purchase Russian oil. But inexcusably, even NATO countries have not cut off much Russian energy and Russian energy products, which, as you know, I found out about two weeks ago, and I wasn't happy. Think of it, they're funding the war against themselves. Who the hell ever heard of that one? In the event that Russia is not ready to make a deal to end the war, then the United States is fully prepared to impose a very strong round of powerful tariffs, which would stop the bloodshed, I believe, very quickly. But for those tariffs to be effective, European nations, all of you are gathered here right now, would have to join us in adopting the exact same measures.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, and that was it for Ukraine. Now, the countries that buy Russian oil at this point are Turkey, Hungary, Slovakia, France. Boy, that's bad. Belgium and Spain. That's a scandal. I would have mentioned those countries if I were Donald Trump.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Because they are enabling Putin to continue his murderous spree. Then Trump switched to one of his favorite topics, migration. And he says that all over the world, not just the United States, that the illegal immigration situation is badly damaging established countries. Roll tape on that.

[Donald Trump]

According to the Council of Europe, in 2024, almost 50% of inmates in German prisons were foreign nationals or migrants. In Austria, the number was 53% of the people in prisons were from places that weren't from where they are now. In Greece, the number was 54%. And in Switzerland, beautiful. Switzerland. Switzerland. 72% of the people in prisons are from outside of Switzerland.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, those stats seem to be accurate. And migration is on President Trump's mind. So is global warming, which he considers a major scam. Now global warming has been embraced by Western Europe and the United Nations. Billions, probably trillions, has been spent on alternative energies. Trump sees a big con. Roll of tape.

[Donald Trump]

Trump was Right about everything. And I don't say that in a braggadocious way, but it's true. I've been right about everything. And I'm telling you that if you don't get away from the green energy scam, your country is going to fail. And if you don't stop, people that you've never seen before, that you have nothing in common with, your country is going to fail.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so those are the strongest points to review. Didn't really attack Putin or China. And right after the speech on social media, President Trump released a schedule to meet with Xi. So that's going to take place around Halloween at the economic conference in Seoul, South Korea. They'll meet face to face. And Trump did not want to antagonize. That's the right word, Putin or Xi in this speech. He could have slam based both of them. Okay? But he didn't. He did for a reason that he and I concur on. China, I think, think the Chinese are going to make a deal with us. It's going to be very helpful for the world. I think Putin is, as I said, and if you read my book, confronting Evil, my God, the guy is just a psychopath now. And the kicker on it is that in order to stop Putin, Trump's got to convince China to pull away from him. That is the key. They might be able to do it. All right, as far as Gaza and the Middle east touched upon it a little bit. 157 countries say they want to recognize a Palestinian state, but there is no Palestinian state to recognize. I'm sitting there going, okay, it's all right with me, you want to recognize a Palestinian state, but go ahead, try to find them. Hamas runs Gaza as well, runs the West Bank. We're going to negotiate with terrorists. And that's what Trump says. If you prop up a Palestinian state, this is a reward to Hamas. That's why the USA won't do it. I might handle it a little bit differently if I were president, but I have no objection because it's true. The terrorists control the Arab presence around Israel. There's nobody else. So you can recognize anybody you want. But see if they return your phone call, because there's no phones and there's no building.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so Mr. Kimmel returned, as expected, unrepentant. But he wasn't arrogant, you know, fairly humble. Didn't apologize for suggesting that conservative Americans who support Donald Trump somehow were responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Which is what got Kimmel in trouble in the first place. That absurd notion, which is irresponsible in the extreme. Okay, that's what got him in trouble. But before that, Mr. Kimballo carved out an anti Trump posture that was almost a comedy act all in itself. It wasn't funny, but it was so absurd. Every single night. Colbert and Kimmel. All right, we got it. You don't like the guy. So anyway, I'm going to run down a few clips, we'll analyze them and we'll get some reaction. And then I will give my personal advice to both President Trump and Jimmy Kimmel, which I'm sure they're all going to write down and do exactly what I suggest. All right, so Kimmel opens it up last night with this. Go.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

I want to thank everyone who checked in.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It would take all week to list.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

All of them, but some that I do especially want to mention are my fellow late night talk show hosts, my friend Stephen Colbert, who found himself in this predicament, my friends John Stewart, Seth Meyers, Jimmy Fallon, John Oliver, Tony o', Brien, James Corden, Arsenio, Kathy, Wanda, Chelsea, even Jay reached out. I heard from late night hosts in other countries, from Ireland and from Germany. The guy in Germany offered me a job.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Can you imagine?

[Jimmy Kimmel]

This country has become so authoritarian. The Germans are like, come here.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, you know, it's okay. Object. And my personal view is I don't want Jimmy Kimmel banished or anyone. I don't believe in that cancel stuff. They tried to do it to me. They only made me stronger, which I. It's pretty ironic, but it's exactly what happened. Now, as for the controversy himself, Kimmel should have said, look, I'm sorry I said that about the MAGA people. That's what he should have said. But, you know, he's playing to a crew. Always remember that these people play to a certain audience, not the whole audience, not the whole country. They play to a certain sliver. So here's what Kimmel said about the controversy. Go.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

I've been hearing a lot about what I need to say and do tonight. And the truth is, I don't think what I have to say is going to make much of a difference. If you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't. I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind, but I do want to make something clear because it's important to me as a human. And that is, you understand that it was never my intention to make light of the murder of a young man, but I understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear or maybe both. And for those who think I did point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the situation was reversed, there's a good chance I'd have felt the same way.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right. Rational. I mean, that's not what the crux of the matter is. It was inappropriate to inject politics falsely a few days after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Just inappropriate. And the reason that it happened was because Mr. Kimmel is a fanatic. All right? And that's not good.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, the third one and the last one is about the overall issue of expression. Go.

[Jimmy Kimmel]

This show is not important. What is important is that we get to live in a country that allows us to have a show like this. I've had the opportunity to meet and spend time with comedians and talk show hosts from countries like Russia, countries in the Middle east who told me they would get thrown in prison for making fun of those in power. And worse than being thrown in prison, they know how lucky we are here. Our freedom to speak is what they admire most about this country. And that's something I'm embarrassed to say I took for granted until they pulled my friend Style Stephen off the air and try to coerce the affiliates who run our show in the cities that you live in to take my show off the air. That's not legal. That's not American. That is un American. And it is so dangerous.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No government official try to Coerce the companies that take Kimmel show off the air. And I know that because I work for nextstar. You know that on News Nation, I appear. I'll be on with Cuomo tonight. That's not what that company did. The company nextar reacted to its local viewership which was outraged about what Jim said. They got thousands of complaints. That's why the controversy erupted. This wasn't any conspiracy to silence Colbert and Kimmel. Now, to be fair and honest, President Trump doesn't like those people and would be happy if they disappeared. That is the truth. And my advice to President Trump is don't bother with this. You got three big things to do. I mean, major historical things that President Trump is facing. The Putin Ukraine nuke situation, that is off the chart, dangerous. The Chinese situation, which is the only solution to Putin and the rising prices of groceries in America. Those are the Jimmy Kimmel doesn't mean anything to this country. Now, I well understand how poorly, unfairly Donald Trump has been treated for the past 10 years because I was treated unfairly, but not nearly the way he was treated. And I understand his animus toward Kimmel and Colbert. I got it. But boy, Mr. President, you have so much and it's so difficult that, you know, they kind of dip down into the Kimmel land. Not worth it. And for Jimmy Kimmel, I think you're pretty funny. I've been on your show five times. Stop being a zealot. I know you go to cocktail parties, you all hang out in Hollywood and you're all the same mindset, but stop being a zealot. That's not what ABC hired you to do, even though they allow you to do it. Okay? You're not looking out for the folks or the public interest when you banish, when you ban all non liberal voices on your show, which is what you've done for three years. Talk about freedom of expression violations. All five of the liberal networks have have banned every single non liberal voice. That's Putin's stuff. And I've said it way too much. I said it on the Hannity radio program again today. And I know I'm getting to be boring in saying it over and over, but that is the story. And Jimmy personally, don't be a zealot, okay? That's not playing to your strength. You simply don't know as much as it would take to do the analysis you're trying to do. You don't know because you don't try to find out. You live in a bubble. And it's true for Colbert. They never come up against me. In fact, Kimmel is going to be in Brooklyn. I think it's next week. And I had my representative say, look, O'Reilly would be happy to come on and talk about, you know, what ratings would be for that for him if he did that or what are the odds of him doing that. And I'll, you know, if he does, then I'll give him props. Anyway, the story, I hope, is over. I hope everybody watching me around the world understands the real story here. And let's go forward.

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