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No Spin News - Weekend Edition - April 19, 2025
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No Spin News - April 19, 2025
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Mike Slater
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Bill O'Reilly
Welcome to the no Spin News Weekend Edition.
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Eric Bolling
Chinese President Xi Jinping is going to Vietnam, Malaysia, and Cambodia. Hey, President Xi, let me just break it to you. Those folks have no money at all, okay? They cannot help you. They're not gonna buy your stuff because I don't have any money. All right? And so I don't know why you're going there, because now maybe he's trying to sneak in Chinese goods under the Vietnamese label, but that's going to be easily exposed. So I don't even know what this is. You know, you. If China loses the US Market, and I still believe there's going to be a detente here, it's hosed. It's just screwed because we have the money. We buy the stuff. The melees aren't buy your stuff. They don't have any money. All right? So he's over there. Trump economic adviser Kevin Hassert says that dozens of tariff deals are going to be made shortly. And the quote is the progress has been astonishing. Okay? Now, all of the other broadcasters after I just reported that would have said we'll see. But I don't say we'll see because it's a cliche and it's stupid. This is what President Trump is saying, told me directly. So hasrt is saying what the president said. Okay, let's get some other perspective on this. Now, you may know Eric Boli, don't bring him in yet. I just want to give his background first. So Eric Bolling, when I was at the Factor at Fox, he would sub for me and the ratings would go down, but, you know, they went down for everybody that's up that sub for me. But he did a decent job. I mean, you know, he ran a show and then he was over at a couple of other places. But his background is in economics and he was a board member of the New York Mercantile Exchange, big shot in oil and gas trading. So he knows the economic world. And he joins us now from West Palm Beach, Florida, where he airs daily on real America's voice, Dish, YouTube, all of that Internet stuff. So bowling, you okay down there in Florida? You all right?
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Kevin Hassett
We miss you down here, Bill. It's always good to have you.
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Eric Bolling
Okay. You look a lot, a little like Maner G. Krebs with the goatee, but that's all right. It's okay.
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Kevin Hassett
That compliment was amazing, especially coming from the guy who I did sit in for over 250 times over 11 year period. So I must have been ratings went down, but they must not have gone down that much.
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Eric Bolling
Mr. Bill O'Reilly, you know, when, when Juan Williams sat in for me, they really went down. But when you went, you weren't that bad. So look, I know you've had some discussions on your programs and you had some criticism about the tariffs. Where, where do you think they are now?
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Kevin Hassett
So I, I stand firm, Bill. I'm a, I'm a free market true, like complete free market tier. I'm just believe that government shouldn't get their hands in any form of the markets now. I do. I'm again, let me qualify that with I really rooting for the Trump tariffs to work. I hope they do. I'm hearing they are, as Kevin Hasard said, it's going to be astounding when they start telling us what they've gotten or what they've received. My only issue is I just don't like government interfering in markets. And when I mean government, I mean our government also. But if it's again, if it's going to be used, I think they lost the messaging. Bill, let me reframe this. It came out whether we're going to raise tariffs to the rest of the world to the level that they're charging us. And when they realize they can't do it anymore, their tariffs will come down and our tariffs will come down as well. At some point it turned to, well, they're all begging to, you know, kind of kiss the ring and come make a deal with us, which was the wrong message for me as a free marketeer. He got back on message recently over the weekend and said when they lower him will lower them. And that's what I hope for. I hope for a global no tariff or a global 10% across the board.
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Eric Bolling
In two directions just cut through this, we have no control about China and what China's import tariffs are. We don't. So they can jack up their tariffs and same thing with the eu. Hans and Franz can, can buy stuff from the United States. We ship it over to Hans and Franz in Munich and they slap a 20% VAT value added tax on it, which means Hans and Franz have to charge if they resell whatever they buy from us. They got to slap 20% more on American goods. Can't compete with the German made goods. That's the game. We can't control it. So free marketing is really a myth. It isn't free. It's not free anywhere. So what Trump wanted to do was basically say, we're not letting you rip us off anymore. We're the biggest market in the world. We have the most money, the most consumers who can spend, and you're going to play fair. It seems logical to me that that would be a good policy for the United States. But in order to get there, we have to suffer, and Americans don't want to suffer. That's where we are.
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Kevin Hassett
Again, agree. And that is the theory. And I hope it works. And I really do. I hope it doesn't push us into a global recession, which theoretically could happen. And I'm not suggesting we continue to have a trade imbalance and have a trade imbalance, a tariff imbalance with these countries. I'm simply saying there are ways to maybe negotiate other countries bringing down their tariffs. I'll give you an example. China charging us whatever they want to charge us. What are they been charging us? Because we don't even really know. We can talk about this number that they came up with with China's charging us at 32%, which, be honest with you, they made that up. But they use a different metric, not what they told us. Regardless what we, what we could do is China needs oil. We have a ton of oil. We can produce more oil. We'd say, China, you lower your tariff, our export tariff, your import tariff, US Goods going to China, lower it to a reasonable number, let's call it 20%. And we'll only put a 20% tariff on the oil. We'll send you, and we'll send you a ton of liquefied natural gas.
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Eric Bolling
That's what will eventually happen. But China isn't benign, okay? They don't want to give up their unbelievable trade advantage, not only with the United States, but everywhere else. They don't want to give it up. But the mistake that I think the Trump administration made was this they tried to do it too fast. Instead of knocking down Canada and Mexico, then going to the eu, then going to China or whatever order you want to put it in and along the way explain every step to the American people, which they could have done. All right, Instead of this tsunami all at once that panicked the worldwide markets, that led to the stock market going down. They could have been a more gradual thing and that's what I would have done.
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Kevin Hassett
There's, there's a third alternative. I agree with that. There's a third alternative where they could have come up with, okay, so we buy a lot of garbage, trinkets, crap, we buy a lot from China, right. And we sell them in technology and important goods and whatnot. We could have gone out to the rest of the world. Taiwan, Vietnamese, you just mentioned them and say, you know what, you want to build a manufacturing plant there. We don't want to pay this 32%, 35% China tax anymore. We'll buy from you instead of them. Here it is. You're the United States is the wealthiest consumer that we're a huge buyer walking into a mall. The world is the mall. And we have this massive credit card with trillions of dollars of credit on it. And we go, you know what? That store China right there is charging too much for the same thing. I can buy from that store over there. Taiwan, you know, I'm going to go over there and watch what happens. China drops their tariff, drops their price to compete for us. Everyone wants our dollar. That's a more, I would call it free market solution to drop.
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Eric Bolling
But that would be incredibly, incredibly complicated to do now. Nvidia out of Taiwan just announced today it's going to build a big chip plant in the United States. That's a huge victory for the usa, by the way.
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Kevin Hassett
Enormous. Do you believe that?
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Eric Bolling
You believe, do I believe they will do it? Yes, I do believe that because he.
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Kevin Hassett
Made the deal too.
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Eric Bolling
The CEO made a deal directly with Trump. No, it's inconceivable that they wouldn't do it now.
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Kevin Hassett
Well, so Apple says we're going to do a half a trillion dollars we're going to build here. These CEOs are catering, they're cow tying to Howard Lutnick and the group and making a lot of promises. But, but we don't know if they're. I hope they do. And by the way, it's 10 years down the road, Bill. It's not going to build a chip manufacturing plant in the next two or three years.
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Eric Bolling
Look, the reason I believe it'll happen is Trump can hurt them. Yes, Trump is out come 2028, but he can hurt them now if we don't see progress and fast progress and he will you go back on a deal with Trump. He's going to find a way anyway. Boy, we're glad you're doing well down here.
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Kevin Hassett
Or revenge.
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Eric Bolling
If you lie to the president of the United States about intentions, that's retribution. You know, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, blame on me, that's retribution. Glad you're doing well down there in South Florida. Bowling okay. Right. We'll talk soon. Again, thanks for helping us out. I rely on physical precious metals like gold and silver to protect my savings. And the only company I trust is American Hartford Gold. A tax advantaged gold IRA can protect your savings from inflation, recessions and more. You can even roll over your 401k or IRA tax and penalty free with thousands of five star ratings and an A from the Better Business Bureau. American Hartford Gold has delivered billions in precious metals. Trust American Hartford Gold to help you. Call or text American Hartford Gold. Tell them Bill O'Reilly sent you for up to $15,000 of free silver on qualifying orders. 8663-265576-86326-5576 or you can text Bill to 998-899 again, 866-326-5576 or text Bill to 998-899. Did you know that Fast Growing Trees is the biggest online nursery in the USA with thousands of different plants and more than 2 million happy customers. They have all the plants your yard needs, like fruit trees, privacy trees, shrubs and much more. Whatever plants you're interested in, Fast Growing Trees has you covered. Just order online, get your dream yard delivered right to your door. And this spring they have the best deals, up to half off on select plants. Plus, my listeners get 15% off their first purchase when using Code Bill at checkout. That's an additional 15% off at fast growing trees.com with code bill at checkout. Now is the perfect time to plant. That's Fast Growing trees dot com. Don't forget, use Code Bill to save offers valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions apply.
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Bill O'Reilly
You're listening to the no Spin News Weekend Edition.
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Eric Bolling
Joining us now from Winona, Minnesota, is the bishop out there of the diocese, Robert Barron. You may know him because he had a very successful social media operation called Word on Fire. Okay. Which is worth checking out even if you're not Catholic. So is the church in America going To get involved with this in Colorado?
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Robert Barron
Well, it might. We've been involved in similar struggles in different states. You look at my home state here in Minnesota, there's a. We're a sanctuary state, which means that you can take a kid from his parents in a state other than Minnesota, bring him here, and despite the parents objections, they can do all this gender affirming business. We've been opposing it. There have been similar things. I was out in California as an auxiliary bishop and we were fighting these battles. It's a real ideological struggle because, I mean, the church stands athwart this very modern sense of everything depends upon freedom. You know, we just get rid of any objective normativity and we say it's all a matter of personal free choice, even a child choosing its gender. I mean, it's beyond absurd, but it's also, it's a deeper moral problem about human nature and this weird primacy we've given to freedom of choice. And the church, I think, is the strongest, most articulate organization standing against this business.
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Eric Bolling
But you've got to organize and do something formal so the American people know that there is opposition to what Colorado is doing. And I have not seen that bishop, so far.
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Robert Barron
Yeah, I mean, in some of the states, the bishops conferences get together. We'll have our meeting in June, and sometimes these issues come up and we try to find an organized, you know, response, but usually it takes place at the state level. The state conference level is where the bishops tend to engage these things. We just met as Minnesota bishops with the governor, Governor Walz, and with the top leadership in Minnesota. We laid out all the concerns that we have about these various things. So I think that's really, really where the battle usually is joined at the state conference level.
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Eric Bolling
Okay, but that's all well and good, but the mobilization of the American people. I think most Americans would find this law barbaric. In Colorado, okay, 2 to 1. If you polled it, 2 to 1 they go, you can't allow children to not tell their parents they're going to have a surgery to change their gender. That's just off the chart. But there doesn't seem to be any logical or apparent opposition to this. Now, when you're in a situation where the Colorado law basically is saying, we don't care about the Hyde Amendment. The Hyde Amendment was passed because you can't. The United States government, according to Constitution, can't force somebody of conscience, a Catholic, to fund something that's a sin in the Catholic religion. That's as simple as that. All right, you can't force. It's a freedom of religion issue.
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Robert Barron
Right.
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Eric Bolling
Can't take.
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Robert Barron
We've been opposing that stuff for years right now. We've been very articulate and clear, I think, in our opposition to this stuff for years, trying to carve out these conscience protection clauses. And as I say, I fought this now in three different states as a priest and as a bishop, and we raised it a lot at the national level. I'm on the Bishops Committee for Religious Liberty, and that's how we name this. It's precisely a religious liberty free exercise issue.
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Eric Bolling
Well, I don't believe that right now in the usa, and I could be wrong, but I follow these kinds of stories very closely, that it's an organized opposition. You say state by state, okay. But Trump is the guy that's knocking the DEI out. That's knocking the woke out. It's telling the states you can't do transgendered men competing against women in sports. It's a secular thing. Trump is doing it, and he's doing it for political reasons because the MAGA people want that. But there doesn't seem to be a religious alliance with Trump there.
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Robert Barron
Well, I'm chair of the Bishops Committee on Laity, Youth and Family Life, and I've issued a couple of statements supporting those moves of Trump, especially in the gender area, especially in men and women's sports and all that. I came out against him in terms of in vitro fertilization. So I spoke as chair of that committee. See, the way the church is organized, power is concentrated really in the individual bishop, and maybe in the state conference at the national level. Sometimes we don't approach the questions at that level. It's more the individual bishop in his diocese or the state conference. Also, I try to do it through preaching, so I use the means I have of communication to talk about these things. I've been battling wokeism for years. I've been speaking out against it like crazy, and I have a lot of enemies because of it. But I've chosen to use this means of social communication. I've got to.
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Eric Bolling
What's your objection to woke? What's your objection to it?
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Robert Barron
It's fundamentally unjust, and it's a fundamentally racist point of view. It's grounded in European postmodern philosophy. That's really pugnant to Catholic social teaching, which is not an antagonistic social theory, but one based upon cooperation. I'm a Martin Luther King man, right? We're judged by the. By the content of our character, not the color of our skin. And this return to A very racialized understanding and a very antagonistic understanding of society. I think all of that is repugnant to Catholic social teaching. So I've been against it for years.
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Eric Bolling
Okay, so we're in Holy Week now. And the surveys say that churchgoing not only for Catholics, but for everybody. Protestants, Jews, Muslims, the whole across the board is on decline, vast decline. And the elevation of atheism and people who don't care agnostics is on the rise. Is there one thing that you could point to that has shifted us from a traditional society to. To a sexual society?
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Bill O'Reilly
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Robert Barron
Well, of course, we've adopted largely this kind of, I call it, culture of self invention. So instead of looking at objective normativity and objective value, we just say, it's a matter of my choice to create reality. And so the great opponent of that is belief in God. If you believe in God, you believe in a supreme objective value, and then arranged hierarchically under that are the other objective values. You get rid of God, you get rid of that whole framework, and all you're left with then is the freedom to invent reality. That's the ideology we're up against. That's another face of wokeism, by the way. But that's the struggle. You know, I would contest a bit. There are certainly indicators over the past 30 years of this great decline. In more recent years, though, there have been some more encouraging signs of revival in religious belief, especially among young people and especially young men. Just recently, I saw a study in both France and England. Numbers have gone up rather dramatically in terms of those joining the church, we still have a massive problem. And I've been tracing that for the past many years. The disaffiliation from the churches has been proceeding apace. But there are some hopeful signs, I'd say, in recent years.
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Eric Bolling
All right. A lot of it is the media portraying religious people as fanatics. And, you know, I mean, secular media dominates in America and in Europe as well, that, you know, if you're going to church, there's something wrong with you. And, you know, the atheists get all the attention. All right, Bishop, we really appreciate your point of view. Word on fire. How can people get that? Tell us how we can go ward.
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Robert Barron
On fire.org and you can find all kinds of resources there, sermons and podcasts and articles and so on.
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Eric Bolling
All right. And we appreciate your work and I hope we can talk again soon. Thank you.
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Bill O'Reilly
Here's a gem from the no Spin News vault.
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Eric Bolling
So now let's turn to the inside Republican situation. As you know, I'm an independent. I'm not associated with any party. Don't really follow the party politics very much. Unless someone inside either party starts to hurt you, then I rapidly get involved. The Republican Party is in the middle of a changeover from Ronna McDaniel, who is the chair of the RNC. And now as of last Friday, you have Michael Whatley and Lara Trump, who is President Trump's daughter in law. She joins us now from Washington. So I, when I heard first that you were going to do this, I went, why would anybody want this job? I mean, I know you want your father in law to be back in the Oval Office, that's obvious. But you have a family, you got kids, and this is like 24 hours a day. This never stops. Right?
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Lara Trump
Well, you're right, Bill. I mean, to be honest with you, it's not a job that I ever wanted or a job that I ever really thought I would pursue. But I also never thought that our country would be in such dire straits. And we truly are. I think you really have seen us in a space in America where if this election coming up on November 5th goes the wrong way and Joe Biden ends up with four more years in the Oval Office, I really don't know what kind of country we have on the other side of that. So, yeah, I have two young children, they're four and six years old. I, I have a lot of things that I'm busy with all the time. But nothing is more important to me than ensuring that their future is set up well and that every American child gets to grow up in the same America I got to grow up in. So when my father in law called and he said, would you do this? To be honest with you, I thought about it and I had to think long and hard about it. And then I said, you know what, if I'm the best person for this job and this is the best use of my time over the next eight months, absolutely, I'm a yes.
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Eric Bolling
Okay. What does the RNC actually do beside raising money? I mean, we know you raise money and you're going to have to raise a lot of it in the next eight months to compete with the Democrats, which, you know, that's a money donating machine over there. But what else? What else does the RNC do beside raising money?
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Bill O'Reilly
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Lara Trump
Well, look, you don't win the presidency without the support of the Republican National Committee. The reality is this is a committee that's been around so long, it's obviously one of the two major political parties in this country and they have an apparatus across the country in every state, in every district around the United States of America. And so once you have a nominee named, which obviously Donald Trump is the presumptive nominee for the Republican Party, you need the apparatus of the RNC to help all across the country in different districts.
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Eric Bolling
You gotta be specific. Now. I mean, okay, to help, we are. All right, got it. But how do you do that? I mean, do you. One of the reasons that Donald Trump lost to Joe Biden to me and I'm pretty, I've been around like a long time since U.S. grant was that the Democrats were better organized in getting out the mail in ballots and all of this stuff, okay?
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Lara Trump
Yeah.
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Eric Bolling
So they mobilized more people to the polls than the Republicans did. And they did that in a variety of ways. They had a lot of money from Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, hundreds of millions of dollars to hire people to go out. How is the RNC going to compete against that in November?
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Robert Barron
Yeah.
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Lara Trump
Well, the truth is, you're right, Bill. We have not been playing the game the same way. We have been playing checkers. And the DNC and the Democrats have been playing chess. We have to fight fire with fire. And you're right, as Republicans, we've had this notion for a long time we're going to go out and I'll vote on election Day. And it would be great if we had voter ID across the country. It would be great if we had paper ballots. We don't have those things. We know Election Day starts in some states months ahead of November 5th. We have to start talking to people on the Republican side of the aisle about early voting, about mail in voting.
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Eric Bolling
What does that mean? Does that mean you hire local people to do that like the Democrats do? What is exactly are you going to do?
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Lara Trump
Well, there's a whole host of different ways. First of all, messaging has to be go vote early for a long time. We never told people that. We said wait until election Day. So the messaging is going to change. We are hiring people like legal ballot harvesters all across this country to go everywhere you legally can and harvest ballots.
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Eric Bolling
What does that mean, though? Harvest ballots? That mean convince people to vote a certain way. Is that what harvest about? What does that mean?
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Lara Trump
Not on the Republican side. Perhaps on the Democrat side, they may help you fill it out. What ballot harvesting is, is. Is literally going to an area where you can have a contingent of people, group of people. You take their ballots and then you take it to a designated location and.
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Eric Bolling
Turn down their ballots to the VFW hall. And then the RNC has somebody at the hall who takes those ballots physically and brings them to the voting precinct. That's what ballot harvesting is. And you're going to do that now in a much more aggressive way than you did it four years ago. Is that what I'm hearing?
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Lara Trump
That's exactly right. We're going to turn out low propensity voters. These are people who maybe only vote in one out of every four presidential elections, but every time they will vote Republican. We are going to target these people using a bunch of different software and AI technology that perhaps we hadn't had in the past. But I think the most important thing we have to do is protect the vote, election integrity is something that every.
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Eric Bolling
Well, how do you do that though? How do you protect the vote?
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Lara Trump
Well, look, we have a whole host of different lawyers that are going to be spread out across the country. These, some of these are paid. We are also asking for volunteer attorneys to be.
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Eric Bolling
And they're going to be at the actual polling places because you know, you can't. It's against the law to politic at polling places. So you're gonna have people observing.
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Lara Trump
You can have eyes on the ground. Legally, you can have poll watchers. We will have trained poll watchers. This is something that RNC has never done. These are people who can actually count the ballots going in, ballots going out, handle them and really assure people that every single legal vote in this country is counted. Because, Bill, if we don't have election, nothing else ultimately matters.
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Eric Bolling
You're going to be hiring a lot of people are, but we sure will. You got to compete. Our final question. I think that one of the reasons, and you know that I've known your father in law a lot longer than you have.
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Lara Trump
Yes.
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Eric Bolling
One of the reasons he chose you, and I could be wrong, I'm just guessing he never discussed it with me, is because you are articulate and a good fundraiser and they can throw you out into Kansas and Montana to raise money. And that's what you're going to be doing a lot of. Am I right?
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Lara Trump
Oh, I certainly will be raising a lot of money. And I think the reality is there are people across this country who maybe at one time donated to the RNC and have said, look, I don't really know if I trust this organization over the past five or six years or so. And I think one of the things that has been my focus is to ensure that, that every penny of every dollar goes to the causes that people who donate care about. Of course, electing Donald Trump at the top of the ticket, but all the way down. We've got to expand our lead in the House, take back the Senate and make sure we have America First Patriots running for all these positions and supporting them.
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Eric Bolling
That's what I'm gonna be one busy woman.
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Lara Trump
I sure will.
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Eric Bolling
If you run into Jeffrey Katzenberg, who's doing what you're doing on the other side, I mean, he's the big money man for Biden. You going to say anything to Katzenberg? Are you going to give him a little jab? What are you going to do?
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Lara Trump
I would be very nice and very pleasant because you always want to be nice to people when they're on their way out.
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Eric Bolling
Okay, Larry Trump, thank you very much for taking time. We really appreciate it.
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Bill O'Reilly
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