B (3:05)

Right. And that's the problem, Bill. Look, there's been so many people that have talked about these different incidents. I responded to well over 90% of all the use of force incidents in Tucson sector. I've responded to shootings, to, you know, numerous amounts of use of force. I was next to agents numerous times when they would get indicted and they were tried for crimes within the state, even though they were cleared by the federal government, they. That's very important. They were cleared of any wrongdoing, but the state came after him anyways. And I sat in those courtrooms and listened to all the back and forth from the attorneys. I assisted some of the attorneys that were defending some of the agents. And that's going to be the biggest problem at this point. Where do you find a jury that hasn't heard about these cases?

A (3:55)

No, but. And that's just one way. I'm not worried about that. What I'm worried about is clearly, in Minnesota, ICE and the Border Patrol have not de. Escalated it, absolutely, but it's because they.

B (4:09)

Haven'T had any assistance, Bill. You have to have assistance from the local authorities.

A (4:13)

We know who the bad guys are. But when you're on the ground and you have this volatile situation and you draw your weapon, there has got to be some kind of guidance. You just can't be shooting all over the place, Art.

B (4:35)

No, no, and I agree with you. Look, I worked that field many times. I was out in the desert when I was tracking drug smugglers. My gun was never holstered. My gun was always outside. Now, obviously, you have to have trigger discipline and you keep your fingers off the trigger and everything like that, but there's things that can come out and spook you. Luckily, you know, I wasn't put in that situation where I pulled the trigger. But we need to go through the investigation.

A (4:59)

No, wait.

B (5:01)

And see what the investigation draws.

A (5:02)

But they're also.

B (5:03)

Now they're not doing that.

A (5:04)

But there's a defiance on the part of Homeland Security nomen. They're acting defiant, which. Which is polarizing the whole country. Now, you got to stick up for your guys. You have to, because you're not going to have any guys.

B (5:25)

But I'm retired. I'm retired now, Bill. So I'm just telling you the way it is.

A (5:29)

No, I know, but that's why I'm calling for the FBI to have a special elite unit to go in and look at this. And again, I know walls and fry, no matter what the FBI said, not going to believe them. But I want it as an American citizen.

B (5:44)

Look, and these types of shootings, the people that will take over the investigation is the Office of Inspector General. So the Office of Inspector General are the ones that are going to get involved and they're the ones that are going to see the shooting.

A (5:55)

Okay, but the actual facts on the ground have to be accumulated before the Inspector general.

B (6:00)

And how do you accumulate those facts when you got rioters that completely disturbed undercover FBI people?

A (6:07)

You got to send FBI investigators.

B (6:10)

I agree, but the scene where, where it occurred has already been damaged because people were all over the place. So that scene was already damaged.

A (6:18)

They do the best they can do, right?

B (6:21)

So they should have deployed state and local authorities immediately. Once I saw these individual individuals that were protesting and they started moving the trash cans and blocking the streets, I knew right away it's lost. So before I went to the border patrol, I worked for the state prison for a long time. And when I was in the state prison, they teach you even more tactics on how to be able to handle these types of crowds and this hostility and riot situations. And that's part of the problem. If they would have had more local authorities on scene, they would have been able to avoid some of this. Now we can Monday morning quarterback it.

A (6:57)

Now look, but that's the primary. The primary point I made was Walls by telling his authorities not to cooperate with ice, not to protect ice, not even to protect him. That's almost insurrection and the FBI should be looking at him.

B (7:15)

And you know what, Bill, from talking to agents, you know where else it happened? It happened in Los Angeles when they were out there and it happened in Chicago when they were out there. Absolutely nobody wanted to talk about it.

A (7:26)

And it's being fueled by this far left agitators. You, a guy in Shanghai, China orchestrating this whole thing.

B (7:33)

And it's going to happen in Arizona next when they start doing any type of tactical enforcement here. Because you've heard Senator Kelly already pushing those buttons because they want that to happen.

A (7:44)

Yeah. What's up with him? You know him. What's up with this guy?

B (7:47)

Last time I talked to him, he refused to shake my hand several years ago. But look, that's part of the problem that we're seeing across the country is that we have these individuals in leadership positions that are perfectly comfortable doing their press conferences and, and telling people do not obey that we will not comply. I have videos on my social media where I have leadership from Tucson, the city of Tucson, where they've said we will not obey, we will not comply. Those were their specific.

A (8:16)

And I want to give you a plug for that. It's five strands with Art Del Cueto that's D E L C U E T O on YouTube. People can see those.

B (8:27)

I have it on Instagram. I have it everywhere. They need to see that.

A (8:30)

All right, all right. I may have to come out there and get one of your hats. And I appreciate it. I just hope.

B (8:39)

Well, let me just add. Yeah, look, I know Kristi Noem personally and she has done what many others have not done and we'll hear back and forth on it. And I think we need to start looking into who are these leaks within the agency that have bad mouthed her. We need to start looking and seeing, you know, who has been giving her information that perhaps not be correct in order to put her in a spot to look bad. She has accomplished along with President Trump to secure the border like nobody else has security.

A (9:12)

That's absolutely true.

B (9:14)

And they all need to get along with this instead of pointing the finger. But I was an agent for many years and I can tell you when egos get in the way, there may be some people still within the agency that instead of agreeing that she's doing a good job, they may be a little upset because they're not the ones that are in that position of leadership. Or maybe when they were in those positions, they weren't able to get the job done. Kristi Noem, President Trump and Tom Holman and Chief Mike Banks is doing a fantastic job.

A (9:43)

All right. All right. Thanks very much. We appreciate it. We'll talk again soon.

C (9:45)

I hope you're listening to the no.

A (9:48)

Spa News Weekend Edition. Let's get back to this guy, Neville Roy Singham, the communist living in Shanghai, China, doing a lot of damage to this country. And we went over this pretty stringently yesterday with how he gets the money in, who gets it. And they hire professional people to go to Minnesota to cause mayhem and violence. That's what happens. Joining us now is a reporter who's investigated this. He's way ahead of the story. His name is Jerry Dunleave. He works for Just for the News. That's John Solomon's organization and he has been on this case a lot. So what I'm interested in is why the federal government hasn't exposed this character Neville Roy Singham. Why? Why isn't this guy known by everybody?

D (10:42)

It's a great mystery. I think that you have a very good Foreign Agents Registration act case against Neville Roy Singham. Just given his close connections to the Chinese Communist Party and his political activities here in the United States, which are universally pro communist. And that might sound a little bit out there, a little bit extreme, but that is in the words of Neville Roy Singham himself and the words of the groups that he is helping fund. And that's everything from the People's Forum, which is based in Manhattan, but really has a national reach. The Party for Socialism and Liberation, which is excellent at organizing protests and demonstrations nationwide. And I just encourage viewers, next time you see one of these demonstrations, whether it's pro Palestine a few months ago or whether it's anti ICE now, keep an eye out for the signs in those protests. Undoubtedly you're going to see that a huge number of those signs are put together by the Party for Socialism and Liberation. They're very organized. These groups are Code Pink, which we've all heard of, is also roped into this Singham network. Neville Roy Singham is actually married to the co founder of Code Pink, Jody Evans and answer, which is two decade old organization, act now to Stop War and End Racism. Answer, the Answer Coalition is also very closely linked. These groups share money, they share resources, they share personnel. And Neville Roisingham has also helped to fund called Breakthrough News. You've probably never heard of it, but if you go and search for it, you're going to see that the videos by this group get hundreds of thousands, millions of views. And pretty much this group's purpose seems to be promoting the work of all the other groups that I just mentioned and promoting the actions they take in the protests that they do. So Singham has put together a very sophisticated network here. They're able to spin up protests and demonstrations and actions pretty much anywhere in the US that they want pretty quickly. And they.

A (13:10)

Jerry, do they pay people to show up and cause mayhem?

D (13:15)

It's an excellent question. And that's the sort of thing that you would hope the FBI is looking into. What I can say is that these groups have a professional demonstrator side. Absolutely. So they do have people that are getting paid. Obviously the executives and leaders of these groups who are often out there leading the protests and demonstrations, then they have their members themselves. And then wherever they go, whatever the city they're descending on, they link up with the local groups, the local Democratic Socialists of America group, the local communist groups.

A (13:55)

Right and they have the databases and they share the information and emails of these people who are interested in overthrowing the government. Is Beijing, in your opinion? Is there any evidence to back it? In bed with this Singham guy? And is this an attempt by a foreign nation to under undermine the United States?

D (14:19)

It does appear that Singham, his office in Shanghai is co located with a Chinese state media operation. So just right there you have a, not just a sort of ideological link or a financial link, but a physical link between Singham and, and that's very.

A (14:44)

Circumstantial, but it's very powerful. What about the Trump administration not getting out? You would assume you. Because the FBI has investigated the Singham, Our Justice Department knows about him. He's on the radar, to use a cliche. But there is no attempt that I can see from the President on down to get the story out.

D (15:08)

Congress has been pushing for the Justice Department and the FBI to investigate Singham and his network for four years now, first during the Biden administration and continuing now. If there's an investigation happening, it is an invisible one at the moment, which investigations often are. But no investigation is also invisible. So we, we don't know for sure.

A (15:33)

Congress, I don't understand it. I don't. Because this is a huge part of this. Not only in Minnesota, because these people, as you pointed out, they go everywhere. They're organizing now in New York City, 4000 they have signed up to go disrupt ice when they come in here looking for criminal migrants. And it's an enormous story. We understand why the left wing press ignores it. You understand that they don't want any part of this. What they want to do is blame and harm the Trump administration. That's it. That's what they're in business to do. But the right wing media, they haven't grasped the story either. I haven't seen it last word.

D (16:17)

I will say that I've done probably a couple dozen stories now on the Singham network. And the more that I look into it, the more connections you see to other groups, the more sophisticated you see. The operation is a shutdown effort. A strike effort in Minneapolis that happened on Friday seems to have been at least part, in large part organized by the Singham network. They're trying to have that be sort of a nationwide effort this Friday. Of course, this is all aimed at anti ICE operations now, but months ago this network was focused on anti Israel and pro Palestine protest.

A (17:01)

No, they just want to disrupt and create as much chaos as possible. All right, you can reach Jerry Reed, his stuff@justthenews.com and we appreciate. Jerry. We'll check in with you, you know, regularly now because I'm not letting this story go. Thank you very much. This is the no Spin News, Weekend Edition. All right. Now, yesterday and Monday, we gave you a pretty solid informational flow on a guy who is funding a lot of this professional demonstration, violent demonstration. His name is Neville Roy Singham. He's a billionaire tech guy, lives in Shanghai, China. He works with the Chinese government. And he has a 5013C in the United States called Breakthrough News, where he funnels money to places like the People's Forum in New York City and other and Minnesota radical left organizations. He's deeply involved with the insurgency and the sedition against the federal government. This guy, we gave you all the information. He's a communist guy. Now, I didn't know this and I don't think many other people do, but the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, Congressman Jason Smith of Missouri, has been looking at this whole situation for a while. All right. And he certainly knows about the guy and everything else that's going on. He joins us now from Washington, D.C. i didn't even know about the story, Congressman, and I'm pretty on it here. Tell us a little bit about what you found out so far.

C (18:57)

You know, Bill, it's, it's great to be with you, but it's very disturbing. We have been investigating 501Cs and nonprofits since I become chairman. And both in the Biden administration and now in the Trump administration, we have called for the tax exempt status of, of 11 different 501Cs to be revoked because of how they've been funding terrorism, how they've been funding civil unrest. And the People's Forum that you mentioned is one of those that we called both administrations to revoke because of the money trail. The money that's coming in from the CCP that's helping with creating chaos and discourse in the United States is, is absolutely unacceptable, Bill. It's illegal if for foreign money to come into elections, it should be illegal with this foreign money coming in and created.

A (19:53)

Yeah, they're killing people. People are dying. Tell me about when you say ccp. That's the communist government, so everybody knows what you're talking about. So Neville Roy Singham seems to be the kingpin here. He's the face works with the Xi government. Works. Can't. I don't think he can come to the United States. I think they'd arrest him if he did. But he's married to the founder of Code Pink, who's another radical organization. Tell me about him.

C (20:26)

No, like Roy Singham is as close to the ccp, the Chinese Communist Party as any American possibly can. And his wife, as you, as you mentioned, was one of the, the, the main funders of Code Pink to continue with, with creating chaos throughout the United States. This is something that apparently is their mission, their drive. It's, it's what we're looking into. But it's unacceptable that they're able to transfer money into tax exempt entities and basically be subsidized to create this, this chaos.

A (21:07)

Now who would stop that? The Justice Department.

C (21:11)

It would be both the IRS and Treasury can revoke their tax exempt status. Also the Justice Department.

A (21:18)

Have you talked to after. Have you talked. We have no. Does he know?

C (21:24)

He absolutely does know. We actually sent him an official level letter on October 7th of last year calling for these 11 entities to lose their tax exempt status, including the People's Forum. And we laid out tons of evidence.

A (21:37)

But he didn't move on it. He didn't move on.

C (21:40)

He hasn't, he hasn't yet. But I'm going to be meeting with the CEO of the IRS in the next, next 10 days on this very topic because I think it's super important and I think the evidence is very clear.

A (21:51)

Absolutely.

C (21:52)

Right before.

A (21:52)

Would you, will you come back after that meeting on this program and if I can make a call or two on your behalf, be happy to because look, I'm not. Nobody is doubting the information that you've assembled. Nobody is doubting that Neville Roy Singham and the Chinese government are pumping money into the United States to destabilize the federal government and violence is occurring because of it. No, nobody is challenging. It's not a he said, she said. Now the media blacks it out. Is the New York Times, Washington Post, LA Times called you for anything?

C (22:24)

No, they're.

A (22:24)

Okay, so they're not interested.

C (22:26)

Paying attention.

A (22:27)

Right. They're not interested Democratic Party interested. Anybody on your.

C (22:33)

They haven't been helpful so far. We have been trying to go after foreign influence of the Communist Chinese Chinese party in putting dollars into 501Cs and they have not been cooperative yet. I'm hoping that they will see the light because this is anti American. This. There's no reason why we should be subsidizing terrorism.

A (22:54)

Congressman, once the people know what's happening, then you're going to see a startling change. But they embarrass the Democratic Party. They better cooperate because the Democrats on the Ways and Means Committee Have a responsibility to act on information that you've assembled that shows. And, and you correct me if I'm wrong, but the only reason that Beijing would do this is to weaken the US Government. That's it. That's what they want to do. Correct.

C (23:24)

It's exactly. Their whole purpose is to create chaos, make the United States weaker. We are going to continue to use every tool in the toolbox to go after these 501C3s, especially the People's Forum. And if they don't provide the documentations that we've asked, we'll use subpoena. We'll do it all.

A (23:44)

But what I'm worried about, Congressman, is no one knows about the story because the left wing media blacks it out. Right wing media isn't even picking it up. They will now after your interview with me. Now it'll get out. So Bessen sits on it. IRS commissioner sits on. Everybody's got to start to mobilize because we have two dead people now. We have an insurgency in a state, all right? Not seen since the Civil War. Well, now this story becomes urgent. You have to get the information to the American people. Once you do that, the American people will put the pressure on the politicians and they'll have to do something. That's how it works. You know that.

C (24:24)

Bill, I appreciate your hard work in helping get this message out and the information out, because I totally, totally agree with you. The American people, they deserve to know. They need to know. We have to stop this in the United States.

A (24:37)

All right. You're doing good work, Congressman. Once you meet with the IRS guy, I hope you come back. Let us know. And Besson, we're going to contact him ourselves. All right? So we'll put a call into him today about this issue and we'll light a fire at treasury and hopefully within two or three weeks, we'll get this whole thing out so everybody understands what it is. Okay?

C (25:00)

Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

A (25:01)

Thank you, Congressman.

C (25:03)

You're listening to the no Spa News Weekend Edition.

A (25:07)

Boston. This is unbelievable. My second home up there. Michael Cox is a police commissioner, okay? Appointed by radical left Mayor Michelle Wu. And he's proud that Boston last year did not cooperate on One federal warrant. 57 requests were made by U.S. immigration and Customs. All were rejected. Almost all of them were criminals. Please hand over the criminals you have in your prisons to the federal authorities 57 times, more than once a week. All of them decline. And Police Commissioner Cox is proud of it. Proud of it. You see what's happening here? Joining us now from Washington, D.C. and we're very pleased to have her, Trisha McLaughlin, who is the Assistant Secretary of Public affairs at the Department of Homeland Security. So you're pretty busy these days, huh?

E (26:20)

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Sir.

A (26:22)

You know what we're doing here, right?

E (26:26)

I'm sorry. I think audio is cutting out.

A (26:28)

All right, you know what we're doing on this program? We are reporting on the insurrection out of Minneapolis and Minnesota. And then we are extending it to places like Philadelphia and Boston to show the American people that this is not an organic protest. This is a very well organized and funded protest to undermine American security. That's what our goal is. Now, the reason, what I want to talk to you about is specifics. All right? I want to walk through what's happening right now. So the Border Patrol agents that were involved in the Predi shooting have been reassigned. Is that correct?

E (27:11)

They have not been reassigned. They're on administrative leave. They have been since Saturday. That's just standard protocol, Bill. I know the military media is really blowing this up to something that it's not, but that's just standard protocol after any use of force.

A (27:23)

Right, and every police agency does that. Not just Homeland Security, every police agency who is investigating the shooting right now. Is the FBI involved?

E (27:37)

The FBI is involved, Bill. Homeland Security investigators are taking lead on this. FBI's support as well as ATF and other agencies are playing supporting roles. And then there is a separate investigation by CBP internally.

A (27:52)

Okay, so the FBI is not the lead agency under the Justice Department guidelines. It is ice, and they are assisting. The FBI is assisting. That's where we are now. That could change, right?

E (28:05)

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, these. This is an active investigation. People are actively being interviewed as we speak. We know that there is body camera fire footage from at least four of the officers who are on the ground. I know that's actively being reviewed, but these are ongoing, and things could change every day.

A (28:23)

All right, what is your impression? And because you are as close to this case as any human being in the world, what is your impression of what happened last Saturday with Mr. Preddy?

E (28:36)

Well, I do want to let the investigation play out. And I will say at the beginning, when initial statements were made, it was from a very chaotic scene on the. And that's where we were getting our information from, was CBP officers on the ground. But what I can say, and what I think all Americans who watch the footage can see, is that there is an individual, he is armed, and he was. Had a physical altercation with law enforcement. He was also obstructing the course of a federal investigation, which is a federal crime. I've heard, of course, people on, on the right and on the left saying, you know, this individual, he had the right to conceal carry, and of course he does. That's not what anyone is contesting. What people we are contesting is the fact that this individual, while armed, was a federal crime. Obstructing our law enforcement officers. That's a felony. And unfortunately, when that's happening, if you're breaking federal law, especially when armed, that's not only dangerous, but it become deadly.

A (29:37)

Okay, that's a rational explanation. There's no doubt about it. What isn't rational, though, is the jump point where your boss, Kristi Noem came out and called a guy a terrorist. Now, I assume that's never going to happen again because that just exacerbates everything. And as you said, you don't want to get into. You don't want to insert yourself in the investigation. But the same standard has to be held for Ms. Noem, correct?

E (30:08)

Well, of course, Bill, we want to give the American people accurate information in a swift manner. I'll reiterate the fact that we're getting information from on the ground at a very chaotic scene from our CBP officers. And so of course, our first and foremost, we want to give accurate information. And that's what we're going to do going forward.

A (30:29)

But it would help.

E (30:31)

Imperative.

A (30:32)

Trish, I'm looking out for you. It help your life if the brass wouldn't come out and say the guy's a terrorist 10 minutes after the shooting. So I hope and I know it's going to happen, you guys are just going to bring that down a little bit because that's what the media grabs. The media hates you, you know that.

E (30:51)

I mean, of course they hate us.

A (30:52)

But they hate us.

E (30:53)

I do think one thing that's very important to note here is that we have seen a highly coordinated campaign of violence against our law enforcement on the ground there in Minneapolis. You've made note of it and your comments. We've seen a 1000% increase in assaults against our officers. They're having cars being used as deadly weapons against.

A (31:13)

Absolutely.

E (31:13)

They're being shot at with fireworks. They're being spit on. Where they're staying at night is being targeted. These hotels. I mean, you've seen the footage of the destruction at these hotels. And just until now, we weren't getting any backup from local law enforcement on the ground. And so that's why they surged our federal resources in the first place. I think that it's really important for viewers and listeners to know that that's what the environment is for our CBP and ICE office.

A (31:40)

Everybody watching, everybody watching this program, Mr. Laughlin, knows that it will change. Are you going to get protection from the Minneapolis Police Department going forward, as the law states you should have? Is that you believe that will change now?

E (31:57)

Well, I will say it looked like Governor Walz and President Trump had a productive conversation.

A (32:02)

Yeah, but we don't know what that was. And Fry Fry is backing off all over the place today, as you probably have heard. We're not going to do this. We're not going to do that. Do you expect next time that your agents are in danger, the Minneapolis police to come and help?

E (32:22)

Well, what Mayor Fry said this morning certainly was not a step in the right direction. I will say one bright spot, Bill, is what we saw the other night when our hotel, that our ICE and CBP officers were saying that that was being targeted by these anarchists and they started destroying the property and trespassing into that hotel, incredibly violent individuals and behavior. And state and local law enforcement did step in in that single occasion and start making arrests.

A (32:50)

That wasn't. That was in Minneapolis. That was Maplewood.

E (32:53)

Totally different police department outside of that exact jurisdiction. You're correct on that, sir. But what I'm saying is we want to see more of that state and local cooperation. That's why.

A (33:03)

Sure.

E (33:03)

That's why we're there in the first.

A (33:05)

Place, because we don't have it. Final question. I don't know whether you know, but if you do, I hope you will tell my audience which numbers in the tens of millions now, because of YouTube, subpoenas have been issued for Walls and Fry. They're going to have to come in and testify. They, in my opinion, are very close to. They could be indicted for subversion, for rebellion. Many laws, and you know the laws, we've cited them here. Do you know how that investigation is progressing against those two men?

E (33:38)

I cannot speak for the Department of Justice. I can only speak for Homeland Security investigators on the ground.

A (33:45)

Okay. All right. I'll take you to word. We're working with the FBI to get some clarity on that because this will never stop unless the federal government holds these insurrectionists responsible. Can't hold the press responsible because. But they're a huge part of the problem. Do you understand you've been in this job, what, less than a year now?

E (34:10)

Over a year since January 20th?

A (34:12)

Right. So do you understand why the media is so irresponsible in this country. I'm just as somebody who's been in it for 51 years, I staggered every day about what's happening. Do you have an opinion on that?

E (34:30)

Well, I think that they have an agenda and I think that part of that agenda they want illegal aliens to be in this country. I mean, for example, Bill, just a couple for your audience. I think that this is important because you will never hear this from the mainstream media. Who did DHS law enforcement arrest yesterday in Minneapolis? A criminal alien from Laos convicted of homicide. Another one from Laos convicted of rape and sexual assault. A man from Vietnam convicted for sexual assault and failure to register as a sex offender. Those are just three individuals that we arrested yesterday in Minneapolis. And yet you are not going to hear that anywhere in the mainstream media. If you go to cnn, you go to NBC, you go to cbs, you won't read it.

A (35:11)

But the more important story is that Fry was protecting him. Those people. Fry was protecting him.

E (35:18)

Yes. And these are the individuals we're trying to get out of the country. And yet you have rioters, you have agitators who are emboldened by walls. They're emboldened by Fry. And that's why we have to be on the ground and have a presence that we do there in Minneapolis.

A (35:31)

All right. Is the president going to stay at the 3000 level?

E (35:35)

I can't get ahead of the president. Tom Holman's on the ground now there and he'll make those operational decisions.

A (35:41)

All right. We'll talk to Tom. Tricia, thanks very much for coming on the program. Very important and I hope we'll talk to you again soon.

E (35:50)

Thank you for having me.

A (35:51)

So wrapping all this up, you know, it's a serious, serious attack on the federal government of the United States both in and out. And Donald Trump's got to solve it. It's right up there now. Better solved. This is the no Spin News WEEKEND edition. Now Minnesota used to be a fairly close state again, five and a half million residents, very small. I remember covering the Al Franken, the despicable human being that he is running for Senate against a guy named Republican named Norm Coleman. It was close, really close. And we spent a lot of time on the O'Reilly Factor because we despise Franken and understand what kind of a destructive person he is. So we spent a lot of time on this and Franken ultimately prevailed and had to resign later on. But what happened to a state that was closed and now his state is crazy left? Joining us now from Marshall, Minnesota, is a former House minority leader For Minnesota, Marty Seifert. So, Marty, very simple question. What happened, man? What are we looking at here?

F (37:05)

Well, Bill, I think one thing that people don't understand about Minnesota is this close. The Minnesota House Representatives has 134 people. There's 67 Democrats and 67 Republicans. The Senate has 67 members. They have 34 Democrats and 33 Republicans. It couldn't be any closer than we have eight members of Congress, four are Democrats, four are Republicans. With Tim Walls as her running mate, Kamala Harris got a little over 51%. So if you look at the real statistics in Minnesota, we are a tied state with a tiny bit of lean to the Democrats. But because 59% of our population lives in the seven county metro, it does tilt our statewide races more towards the liberal side. And we hold no statewide office. We haven't won a statewide election since 2006. Twenty years ago, Tim Pawlenty got elected by a plurality. When I was in the legislature, I was elected in 96. We had a moderate Republican governor, Arne Carlson for eight years, with Jesse Ventura, you might remember him, an independent for four years, and then Tim Pawlenty, a moderate to conservative Republican for eight years. So I never served with a Democrat in Minnesota as the governor. I had two Republicans and an independent for the 14 years I was in the legislature. Now you said what's happened? Minnesota has, like a lot of states, it's become more polarized. We used to have a lot of split tickets. I won my House seat the first year, the same year that Bill Clinton carried my seat, and I had a Democrat congressman carry my seat. But people split their ticket for me as a Republican. So I have southwest Minnesota in my area. So if you look at Minnesota just from an analytical point of view, the loud have gotten a lot of attention. But I would say the silent majority, that the butcher, baker and candlestick maker, that, that mind their own business, that work hard, raise their kids, they don't, they don't have time to go out and blow whistles and scream at people. But we do have a lot of concerns in Minnesota. We have a deep humanity here. The death of that young man in Minneapolis is disturbing to anyone who watched it. And I'm Republican, but I'm not dumb. And I know there's a fine line between those two sometimes. But at the end of the day, we do have to have some humanity. And this has to be toned down. I watched Tom Holman's press conference this morning, and I think Tom Holman is not leaving the state. He said, until I have this figured out. And his talks with Governor Walz and Attorney General Ellison and our public safety commissioner were very, I think, very what I want to say. Constructive.

A (39:55)

Yeah. And I'm going to get to the specifics. ICE is changing a lot of the things. But here's my analysis and I've been in Minnesota many times up in Rainy Lake up north, and what you're saying is, right, that the rural part of Minnesota is traditional conservative and the big city dominance in Minneapolis, St. Paul is very liberal. But when you have a stranglehold on the messaging, which walls and Fry and your crazy attorney general and the Minneapolis media, which is all left wing. All right. When you have that kind of a stranglehold, that is the impression that gets out. And you mentioned Mr. Peretti, the Minnesotan who was shot down and killed. Well, he was the victim of agitation by the far left, in my opinion. Would you disagree with that?

F (40:43)

Well, I, I look at it from this perspective and I haven't studied that deeply. But at the end of the day we have a young man whose dad was shot multiple times. Was he radicalized by people? I don't know. I think a lot of Minneapolis got caught up in feeling constitutional rights were being abused. And it's not all paid agitators. I have people that I know personally who went out because they felt that it was just getting over the top on how things were happening. Now, ICE operations in my opinion happened here and in all other 49 states under Barack Obama, as you just outlined here a few minutes ago. And it was done professionally and quietly and I think announcing the Calvary's coming with uniforms and press conferences and all this, there's better ways of executing the law.

A (41:39)

Everybody knows that the footprint of the federal government might have been lessened. But if you're going to tell me that a 37 year old guy who kicks the backlight out of an ICE truck eight days ago and breaks his rib in a process and then goes seeks out a confrontation with ICE agents while carrying a loaded gun, you're going to tell me that's rational Minnesota conduct? It is not, Marty. No, no.

F (42:13)

And I'm not rationalizing that, Bill.

A (42:15)

I'm just saying that just so you.

F (42:16)

Know, at the end of the day.

A (42:21)

No end of any days, okay? There's no end of any days. That man and the woman before him, Ms. Good. All right. Are the victims of this far, far left demonization of the federal government. That's what they're victims of. And anybody who disputes that doesn't want to know the truth.

F (42:45)

Yeah. I think your point, your point is well taken, Bill, that if you want to avoid conflict, you don't walk into conflict with a loaded gun. I think people all understand that. I think there's this will all get litigated as time goes on, on motivations and time frames and so forth. But anyone who watched the film is disturbed by it, whether they're conservative, whether they're independent, whether they're Democrat, whatever.

A (43:08)

We're not callous here. And we, we have called month ago for a lighter approach by the federal government. Marty, thanks very much. Good to see you. Stay well.

F (43:19)

Appreciate it.

C (43:20)

Thank you for listening to the no.

A (43:22)

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