No Spin News - Weekend Edition - July 19, 2025

Summary

Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis - Weekend Edition (July 19, 2025)

In the July 19, 2025, episode of Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis, host Bill O'Reilly delves into pressing national and international issues, including the ongoing Ukraine conflict, U.S. immigration policies, and the deteriorating state of law enforcement in New York City. The episode features insightful discussions with experts Mikhail Troitsky, an academic specializing in Russian affairs, and Michael Wiles, a renowned immigration attorney. Additionally, retired NYPD detective Bo Dietl joins to shed light on the challenges facing New York City’s police force. Throughout the episode, O’Reilly emphasizes his commitment to presenting factual information without spin, maintaining an engaging and informative narrative for listeners.

1. The Ukraine Conflict and Trump’s Negotiation Efforts

Timestamp: 01:07 - 04:09

Bill O’Reilly opens the episode by revisiting former President Donald Trump's criticisms of the Biden administration's handling of Russia and the Ukraine war. He references Trump's assertion during his 2024 campaign that re-election would prevent the Ukraine conflict, quoting Trump’s statement from October 14, 2024:

Donald Trump [01:38]: "There's so much bad happened in this administration, it's disgraceful. You know, as an example, there'd be no war with Russia and Ukraine. There's no way. I get along very well with Putin."

O’Reilly critiques Trump's initial optimism regarding negotiations with Vladimir Putin, highlighting the severe human cost of the conflict:

Bill O'Reilly [02:15]: "A quarter of a million Russian troops have been killed. Up to 100,000 Ukrainians have died. This is a situation that's totally out of control."

He outlines the staggering casualties and refugee crisis resulting from Putin's invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, citing data from the Center for Strategic and International Studies and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees.

Notable Discussion:

O’Reilly discusses Trump’s proposed deal to end the war, which involved allowing Russia to retain approximately 10% of Ukraine and lifting trade sanctions. However, Putin rejected the offer, leading Trump to threaten secondary tariffs:

Donald Trump [03:31]: "If we don't have a deal in 50 days. It's very simple. And they'll be at 100%. And that's the way it is."

2. Expert Analysis with Mikhail Troitsky

Timestamp: 07:39 - 14:24

To provide deeper insights, O’Reilly interviews Dr. Mikhail Troitsky, a professor at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University with a PhD from Russia and experience teaching at the Russian Academy of Science.

Key Points Discussed:

• Effectiveness of Banking Sanctions:

  Dr. Troitsky agrees with O’Reilly’s assessment that targeting Russia’s participation in the global financial system is crucial:

  Mikhail Troitsky [08:31]: "Targeting Russia's remaining participation in the global financial system is, of course, going to be much more conducive."

• Public Sentiment in Russia:

  The conversation touches on the indoctrination and propaganda within Russian society, making it difficult for public dissent against the war to emerge:

  Mikhail Troitsky [10:37]: "The Russian people have largely been brainwashed and this heavy-handed propaganda has been going on for more than a decade now."

• Trump’s Negotiation Stance:

  Dr. Troitsky praises Trump’s straightforward approach to nuclear brinkmanship and his personal investment in resolving the conflict:

  Mikhail Troitsky [13:18]: "He seems not to be deterred or impressed by any nuclear brinkmanship and nuclear blackmail by some Russian figures."

3. Immigration Challenges: The Case of Chris Landry

Timestamp: 16:17 - 25:19

In this segment, O’Reilly addresses a poignant immigration case involving Chris Landry, a 46-year-old legal U.S. resident living in New Hampshire who was denied re-entry to the United States from Canada due to a minor marijuana possession conviction from 2007.

Discussion Highlights:

• Case Overview:

  Landry was traveling with his three children, all U.S. citizens, but was barred entry into the U.S. despite having visited Canada multiple times without issues prior to this incident.

• Expert Insight with Michael Wiles:

  O’Reilly welcomes Michael Wiles, a prominent immigration attorney who has represented high-profile clients, including Melania Trump and John Lennon. Wiles explains the legal complexities surrounding Landry’s case:

  Michael Wiles [19:30]: "He is entitled to a day in immigration court. The law allows them when it comes back because it's a controlled substance crime that he was convicted of."

• Legal Remedies:

  Wiles outlines potential legal actions, including filing waivers and challenging the admissibility based on constitutional grounds. However, immediate resolution remains uncertain, highlighting systemic issues within U.S. immigration enforcement.

  Michael Wiles [21:46]: "We would call up ICE because of the profile of this matter and ask for them to have him return to the United States."

• O’Reilly’s Advocacy:

  Emphasizing the human aspect, O’Reilly criticizes the administration’s handling of immigration, labeling current policies under President Biden as the "worst in history."

  Bill O'Reilly [22:16]: "Joe Biden is the worst president on immigration in our history, by far."

4. Law Enforcement Crisis in New York City

Timestamp: 26:12 - 38:50

The episode transitions to a distressing report on the deteriorating state of law enforcement in New York City, featuring retired NYPD detective Bo Dietl, known for his role in Godfather of Harlem.

Key Issues Addressed:

• Judicial Failures:

  O’Reilly highlights a case where two men charged with felony assault of NYPD officers have had their case adjourned 19 times, resulting in prolonged uncertainty and lack of justice.

  Bill O'Reilly [22:48]: "This is coming up on two years now. They will not put these thugs in court. The Bronx."

• Police Department Challenges:

  Bo Dietl expresses deep frustration with systemic issues, including:

  • Underfunding and Legislative Constraints:

    Dietl criticizes recent legislative changes that have impaired police authority and protection, citing the "George Floyd effect" as a catalyst for defunding and policy shifts.

    Bo Dietl [28:33]: "This is the George Floyd effect. ... Defund the police. Now you have... every aspect of what the police officers can do. ... that's illegal immediately."

  • Retirement and Recruitment Issues:

    He notes a significant increase in retirements and difficulty in recruiting new officers, attributing it to a lack of support and protection for law enforcement personnel.

    Bo Dietl [34:19]: "Nobody I love will I let. ... A disgrace of what it's become."

  • Impact on Public Safety:

    The discussion underscores a palpable decline in proactive policing and public safety, with officers feeling demoralized and unsupported.

    Bo Dietl [35:14]: "You can walk on these streets... You can't wear watches. ... my son Bo... eye contact... can get in a fight every two minutes."

Notable Quotes:

• Bo Dietl [30:04]: "The district attorney is supposed to be protecting those cops when they're doing their jobs. And when your district attorney, the prosecutor, don't support you, what the hell do police officers have?"

• Bill O'Reilly [31:59]: "How can you ask people to put their lives on the line every day in a dangerous city like New York when they know nobody's got their back?"

Concluding Remarks

Bill O’Reilly wraps up the episode by reiterating the systemic failures in immigration and law enforcement, calling for accountability and support for affected individuals and institutions. The discussions aim to highlight the real-world implications of political and administrative decisions, urging listeners to recognize and address these critical issues.

Final Takeaways:

• Ukraine Conflict: The prolonged war with significant casualties underscores the need for effective international sanctions and strategic negotiations.

• Immigration Policies: Current U.S. immigration enforcement poses humanitarian and legal challenges, necessitating reforms for fairness and efficiency.

• Law Enforcement: The erosion of support and legislative constraints on police forces jeopardizes public safety and the morale of law enforcement officers.

Overall, the episode provides a comprehensive analysis of contemporary issues, blending expert opinions with direct commentary to inform and engage the audience.

Transcript

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Welcome to the no Spin News Weekend Edition.

[Bill O'Reilly]

When President Trump was campaigning to become president the second time, he often attacked the Biden administration for not being able to deal with Putin. Okay, Trump's line was, if I had been reelected in 2020, there would have been no Ukraine war. That's what President Trump said. Clearly. Here's what he put forth on October 14, 2024. Go.

[Donald Trump]

There's so much bad happened in this administration, it's disgraceful. You know, as an example, there'd be no war with Russia and Ukraine. There's no way. I get along very well with Putin.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And then when he was elected for the second time, Donald Trump and I know this to be true, okay, was very optimistic that Vladimir Putin would cooperate in a ceasefire. Very optimistic. But that did not turn out to be true. So now, today, we are in a second phase. First, the casualties. This is unbelievable. So Putin invaded the much smaller nation of Ukraine in February 2022. Since that time, a quarter of a million Russian troops have been killed. Up to 100,000 Ukrainians have died. 700,000 Russian troops have been wounded. 300,000 Ukrainian troops wounded. More than 6.5 million refugees have fled Ukraine and they have gone all over the world. This is from the center for Strategic and International Studies and the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. So these are the very well documented statistics. Okay, so it is a situation. It's totally out of control. And there's more death every day. Okay, so you would think that there would be some kind of move from Vladimir Putin to stop the carnage. Trump offered him a pretty good deal. What you have now you can keep, which is about 10% of Ukraine, and then we'll lift the trade sanctions. But Putin said blank. You all right? Now, today, Trump is angry with Putin. Roll it. Take.

[Donald Trump]

So in a nutshell, we're going to make top of the line weapons and they'll be sent to NATO. NATO may choose to have certain of them sent to other countries where we can get a little additional speed, where the country will release something and be. It will be mostly in the form of a replacement. And I'm disappointed in President Putin because I thought we would have had a deal two months ago, but it doesn't seem to get there. So based on that, we're going to be doing secondary tariffs. If we don't have a deal in 50 days. It's very simple. And they'll be at 100%. And that's the way it is. That couldn't be more simple. That's just the way it is. I hope we don't have to do it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so we're going to sell weapons to NATO and they'll give them to whoever they want, which will be the Ukrainians. All right, Maybe the Poles will get some, too, because Poland borders Russia. Now, the sanctions, the only way to break Putin is to say to the international banks, you can't do business with Moscow. Now, China and North Korea are going to do business with Moscow no matter what. Okay? But if the rest of the world, if the banking system doesn't, then Putin is done. That's the sanction that matters. I would have done that sanction six months ago when it was clear that Putin was not going to stop killing people. But that. Just keep that in mind. Sanctions are only effective up to a point. You have to understand, if Vladimir Putin does not care about his own people, if they starve to death, he doesn't care. I mean, obviously, when you've got a quarter of a million dead and 700,000 wounded, that's approaching a million casualties. For what? For what? You think Putin cares about human life? He does not. He is a psychopath. He enjoys inflicting pain on human beings. And I know that because we researched this man, Putin, as well as anybody could. And he leads my upcoming book on September 9, Confronting Evil. He's on a cover of it, as you probably know. All right, this is not a normal human being. Putin a lot like the mullahs, okay? Very similar. In effect, the mullahs never would have stopped funding terrorism, and they probably haven't to this day. But we don't know about it ever, until we bomb them. And they were looking at the edge of extinction. Then the mullahs pulled back, okay, but they were never going to stop killing people because they like to kill people. This is Iran. Putin's the same way. It's the same thing. But we can't bomb Putin because he has nuclear weapons. And you just can't get into that kind of a confrontation on this planet. Putin knows that, and he flashes the nuclear thing all the time. All right, so summing up, NATO is going to purchase a number of very sophisticated US Weapons, including Patriot missiles. Trump went out of his way to say NATO's going to pay us for them to mollify the far right isolationist movement. That's what that was about. And then Trump says if we don't have a ceasefire in 50 days, five, okay, 100% tariffs, but unless he does the banking stuff, it's really not going to matter very much. And that's the memo. So I asked my staff to find a really good guest on this. That's not going to give you the predictable stuff, all right? Because I hate that and I believe you're bored by it. So we come up with a guy named Mikhail Troisky. He teaches at the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University outside of Boston, which is a very, very good School. Now, Dr. Troitsky got his PhD in Russia. He's a Russian national in this country legally, of course, and he taught at the Russian Academy of Science, among other schools in Moscow. First of all, Doctor, we appreciate your time. Am I making any mistakes with Putin and my analysis today?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Well, actually, I think, Bill, you are quite accurate. And I was even surprised to hear this great analysis regarding banking sanctions. That's exactly what would matter. And I think that's exactly what the Russian government is mostly concerned with. Not so much the secondary sanctions, as they are called, secondary tariffs on whatever India or China sends to the United States that is going to be difficult to impose. But targeting Russia's remaining participation in the global financial system is, of course, going to be much more conducive to.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, and I hope Trump does that. He has not done it so far. As I said, I would have done it much earlier. And it's not Monday morning. Quarterback. We don't fool around here, Doctor. I mean, we know what's going on all over the Place. I don't know whether, you know, but I spent some time in Beijing in May. I mean, I know what's going on. And the oligarchs who prop Putin up, and that includes the generals of the military, as you know, okay, they're dependent on foreign money. They have all their money in foreign banks. That money's not in Moscow. You slap sanctions and freezes on all of the oligarchs money, all of the general's money and Putin is done. Am I wrong?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Well, I think, well, generals might not have plenty of money stashed abroad. But you are right that this feeling of situation still being reversible for the oligarch and a large segment, millions of people in Russia who have assets both inside their country and in the West. So they feel it's still reversible. And they see the deal that the Trump administration puts on the table. And if the situation kind of shifts towards irreversible with these new secondary sanctions.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And I don't know if it's irreversible because Putin at some point is going to make a calculation just like the mullahs made in Iran that look, I better stop or I better do something. But let me ask you this question. There's no really reliable reporting coming out of Russia because they don't allow free press there, as you know. And if you go against Putin, you might wind up dead, okay, Literally dead. As we saw last week with another, I think it was like 45 former members of Putin's government are dead by suicide. They've fallen out windows. You know what the game is. But the Russian people themselves, all right, did they, you know, we get reports that are they still back Putin? Can that be possible?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Well, the Russian people have largely been brainwashed and this heavy handed propaganda has been going on for more than a decade now. And it became especially violent in the run up to the war. And then you are right that there's no accurate sociological data you can get out of Russia these days. But as we have seen over the past three and a half years of the war, counting on the Russian society to stand up against the war, maybe not even against Putin, but just to become mildly critical about the war and do it openly. That hasn't materialized.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But I wonder why. I mean, I remember the Vietnam War days. I was around and you had all of these Americans, 55,000 of them coming down dead, all right, And a lot of them coming home wounded. And the American public saw that in their towns and they go, what are we doing over there? All right, Russian people have the same. You know, you're losing sons and your friends and husbands and brothers and do. They don't care about that.

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Well, the short answer would be that the Russians are being paid to remain quiescent, and they are being promised a way of life that would largely leave them immune to the war, a major war that is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Give me an example. Give me an example of what they're being promised, because Russians don't live very well. I mean, come on, they're not America over there. They don't have any money, and they're not living large. What are they being promised?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

No, but over the. Over the Putin years, the standards of living in Russia, and in particular in large cities like Moscow, have risen dramatically. So.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And that's because of oil. Is that the oil sale?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Yeah, well, largely oil money, but making economy more efficient, borrowing some Western technology, you know, getting some investment from the west, including the United States, you know, the stock market. And, you know, there's the. There's ways to raise money for Russian corporations, or at least they used to be such ways, and they are no longer in existence after 2020.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So that makes sense. Final question. Do you think President Trump's doing anything wrong here? I mean, obviously he made a mistake because he did believe he could reason with Putin, and that has not come out to be true. Is the president making any other mistakes in this conflict?

[Mikhail Troitsky]

Well, I think from the perspective of ending the war, he's making a very reasonable evolution. And what. And what I also liked about him is that he seems not to be deterred or impressed by any nuclear brinkmanship and nuclear blackmail by some Russian figures. So he immediately calls them out on that brinkmanship. And that was something that, I think the previous administration was cautious not to push the envelope too far because of that. So now the Kremlin knows there's limits as to how heavily they can try to blackmail Trump. Otherwise, he's making progress in his thinking about Russia and that he invokes his conversations with Millennia, who apparently tells him, look what Putin is doing after you've just talked with him. That makes the whole thing very personal to him. So I would expect more of that evolution in the coming week.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Disturbing story out of New England. Okay, here's what happened. A guy named Chris Landry, 46 years old, legal US resident, five children. He works in manufacturing. He lives in Peterborough, New Hampshire. He goes to Canada on vacation. He drives up there. He comes back through the port of entry of Holton, Maine, which I've been to. It's the furthest point north in Maine. He presents his credentials to the border patrol in Holton, Maine. Okay. They say you're not allowed back. Traveling with three of his children. They let the kids in and they're older, so they go back to New Hampshire. But Mr. Landry is still in Canada. He is being denied entry back here. Why? Because he in 2007 had a pot beef. Not a big one, but he had marijuana possession. All right. And that was 18 years ago. Since that time, Landry says he's been to Canada many times, no problem. But now there is a problem. Now, I looked at this and I said this is wrong. If you want to bring him before an immigration court. Okay, okay. If that's what ICE wants to do, I don't object to it. I think it's a waste of money. But on a humane basis, the man has five kids and they're all US Citizens. They all live in New Hampshire. And he can't get back.

[Bo Dietl]

No.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Sorry. No. That is cruel and it doesn't protect me or my family or you or your family, does it? Okay. Joining us now is probably the most astute immigration lawyer in the country. And I'll back it up. He represents Melania Trump and her family. He did represent John Lennon when the U.S. department of State tried to deport him on pot charges or drug charges. Michael Wiles comes to us from New York City. He's also the mayor of Englewood, New Jersey. So he's a busy guy. All right, so I'm assuming Melania is not going to be deported, right? She's okay, counselor.

[Michael Wiles]

She's safe, Mr. Riley. And okay was my late father, Leon Wilds, who passed away a year ago, who actually represented the famous Beatle against the Nixon administration at the time, but quite a legacy. We're still shepherding his practice forward on Madison Avenue.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so I'm. I'm this guy in Chris Landry, and I come to your office or I send a representative, I send, you know, my wife or whoever in and say, look, you got to get me back into the usa. This is ridiculous. What do you do specifically to solve this problem?

[Michael Wiles]

Thank you. Thank you again, Bill, for having me on. Listen, the Controlled substance Act of 1971 schedules marijuana as a Schedule 1 drug as bad as it gets. Such a conviction has catastrophic consequences even for green card holders departing after a conviction. Even with a green card. He was a green card holder. The gentleman, since he was three years old, subjects him to what's termed to be inadmissibility charges on his return. Now, that means that Mr. Landry can be returned to the United States. He has a green card, so he's entitled to a day in immigration court. I want you to know, a few hours ago, I had a US Citizen who consulted with us because he was concerned about his being returned to the United States. He would be heard in a federal court, but Mr. Landry would be eligible for a waiver. They don't have to mandatorily incarcerate him if they want to. The law allows them when it comes back because it's a controlled substance crime that he was convicted of. But what we would be doing the. Would be a few things. First, we would look to see if we could have the crime vitiated. We would look to see whether or not there was a constitutional problem.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, all right. But don't get. Don't just. Right now, he got to get back to Peterborough, New Hampshire.

[Michael Wiles]

Okay, he's entitled to a day in court.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so what would you do? And he should hire you. So you would do an emergency petition right away, try to get it in front of an immigration judge. Is that what you would do?

[Michael Wiles]

He would come to the United States, he would go off.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But they won't let him in. Council.

[Michael Wiles]

They, they, they will let him in. Somebody has to negotiate. That they admit.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, when you say they, you pick up the phone. Who do you call to get this guy back?

[Michael Wiles]

We call ICE and we ask for them to have him return to the United States. He does not make a formal admission and they issue what's called an NTA notice to appear in remote.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, all right. So you call them up on a phone or is it an email or a registered letter?

[Michael Wiles]

We would call up ICE because of the profile of this matter and ask.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Would you get anybody on the phone though, immediately? Are the people there to answer your call? You would?

[Michael Wiles]

Yes, we would. We would go up the chain of command. The decision has to be.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you're confident if this guy hired you, you could get him back within hours?

[Michael Wiles]

Within a day.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Within a day. All right. He's already been out two days. He's already been out in Canada two.

[Michael Wiles]

Days, which is unconscionable for a green card holder with five US Citizens.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's why I'm doing this story. That's why I'm doing it. You know me for many years. I don't want chaos in our immigration thing. I think Joe Biden is the worst president on immigration in our history, by far. There's no even close second, and I've been saying this for decades, that you've got to regulate immigration into America, but this one comes under humane right, of course. Now here's my next question.

[Michael Wiles]

Family reunification is a bedrock of our immigration policy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, the left, the hate. Trumpers are now portraying Homeland Security, ICE as having no interest in humanity, fairness, human rights or any of that. All I want to do is kick everybody out. Is that true?

[Michael Wiles]

It's not true. I'm a former federal prosecutor myself. I'm actually a proud Democrat and a mayor, a five term mayor in New Jersey. I don't like some of the things that they're doing. We're representing a wine company in Edison, New Jersey that was raided a few days ago. I don't like the people that they're picking up or how they're doing it. But this president is returning on his promise to go after those hardened criminals when they realize there aren't as many bad people in this country. They are expanding the net. I don't like how they knock on doors. Even in my city, they're knocking on doors and they're saying it's the Police, and they say, what do you want? Well, we have gifts for your kids. And then they go in and they arrest somebody.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, but there's always abuses. I mean, that's not a policy.

[Michael Wiles]

Not a policy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But I want to get the bigger picture here. So let me. Let's review. Number one, if this guy hires you, you think you can get him back in 24 hours? He would go before then. He'd have a hearing in an immigration court to review.

[Michael Wiles]

We would negotiate.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, you negotiate his status.

[Michael Wiles]

And then. And then he would end up having to be heard in the. In an immigration court.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you're confident you would win the case?

[Michael Wiles]

Oh, yeah. I mean, bill. All right, five children, U.S. citizens.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I got it. I'm just trying to get remedies available.

[Michael Wiles]

To him to defend himself.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so right now he's not getting good advice from anybody because they could have already called you. And there are a lot of other immigration attorneys, skilled ones in New England, who could have done the same thing this years ago.

[Michael Wiles]

He should have done this without leaving. Each time he came back, he faced this jeopardy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right. He didn't protect himself as the way he should. All right, so now after this segment, which will go worldwide, I kind of think that what you just said will happen. I can't guarantee it, but we'll do a follow up tomorrow. And we appreciate your time very much, Mr. Wiles. Thank you very much.

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This is the no Spin News Weekend Edition.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you remember the two New York City police officers who were assaulted and was caught on videotape. So they did it on November 13, 2023, 18 months ago. There's the assault okay. Two men were charged with a felony assault in the second degree today. They were in court. Their case was adjourned for the 19th. December time. 19th time by DA Darcelle Clark. Okay, that means they're out on the street till September 3. This is coming up on two years now. They will not put these thugs in court. The Bronx. And they wonder why crime is out of control in that very poor part of New York City. 19 times. 19 times. The case has been adjourned. This is not the justice system. This is a collapse here. Might be worse. We called the cop unions and the people are supposed to be defending the New York City Police. 17 times they refused to come on program. We call the Police Benevolent Association, Police Conference of New York, the Fraternal Order of Police, on and on and on and on. Now won't defend their own police because in New York City, very few people know about this. Don't even know it. Joining us now is retired New York City police detective Bo Dle. You know him? He's a movie star now. He's in Godfather of Harlem. You play Genovese. Is that who you're playing now? You're some mob guy?

[Bo Dietl]

Tommy Gambino?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Gambino, Genovese, Gambia.

[Bo Dietl]

No, no, no. Tommy Lucchese. You got me wrong. I don't even know who I'm playing anymore.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You don't even know. All right, so you're Lucchese, all right, but in your real life, your Bo Didle, who had a very distinguished career in the nypd, as did my grandfather. I'm so outraged about this. I tell you how I can't get any angrier. Can you explain this to me?

[Bo Dietl]

I just. It's just part of the patent bill that has happened. This is the George Floyd effect. On and on with the demonstration since 2020 when these pieces of garbage were able to demonstrate burn assault actual. Some murders involved the prosecution. Everyone turned against the police. Defund the police. Defund the police. Now you have in New York State, because we have to start with the state. You have an assembly and you have a senate that will not pass any kind of bills in support of the police. Then you have a city council here that has taken away every aspect of what the police officers can do. Now they also have this diaphragm law. You, when you're fighting with someone, if you get them into a headlock, that's illegal immediately. When a cop gets someone in a headlock or gets on top of them, they file a suit against them. The charges are dropped. They testify against the cop. Then you got district attorneys like you just pointed out with this case. These. These officers were beat pretty bad. There were stitches involved and everything. That's why it's assault to a felony. And I. I'm outraged, Bill, listening to what you just said, that this is put off. That's the DA's and the damn judges when they put these liberal judges in there. I mean, a judge is supposed to make a judgment call when you got animals like this. If they're going to assault the police officer the way they did manage, what they'll do to a regular person. You are children on the streets, right?

[Bill O'Reilly]

These people are career criminals anyway, and they know that, and they put them back on the street. But in order to counter this bo, you would have to have an organized police presence with demonstrations, with signs, with pressure with the media. And you don't have anything, not one word. They have turned us down on every request to come in and condemn this whole case. They will not do it. Do you know why?

[Bo Dietl]

No, I don't know why. But I'm going to tell you something. I was with Kaz Daughtry, the deputy mayor, Public Safety, last night. I had dinner up in Campanola's with him. And we had dinner and this is one of the issues that he told me he wanted me to get back on. And I promise you one thing, I told him I was going to be on your show and I said, I want answers. Why now? When you go to the unions, you have a pba, you have a dea. I'm still a member of the dea, but. But I'm going to reach out to the president of the pba. And you are exactly right. There should be demonstrations going on in front of that DA's office in the Bronx. This is an outrage. And I'm really, really side with you on this one, Bill. That's where I came from.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But now it's a moral outrage. It's just wrong. It's indefensible. But there's more than that. It demoralizes every single police officer in the city because they know they could be beaten, they could be next. And nothing is going to happen to them because of the Darcelle Clarks of the world. But their own people aren't defending them. How can you ask people to put their lives on the line every day in a dangerous city like New York when they know nobody's got their back?

[Bo Dietl]

That's why, Bill, more police officers in New York City are retiring than ever before. They can't recruit people to come on to The New York City Police Department, and a lot of people don't know if they're doing their jobs completely legally, they still could be sued civilly. That's like the poor cop that has a little house out in Levittown paying his mortgage or her mortgage pay, and next thing is, they get sued civilly and they take his house or her house away. And right now, what's going on? They cannot bring people on the police department, and they're lowering their standards. Bill, this is a craziness. Then we got some fool running for mayor that wants to defund the police department, and he's getting more votes than anybody.

[Bill O'Reilly]

For our audience who doesn't live in New York City and doesn't really know how intense it is, describe when you were on the job. Okay. And then now, how big a difference?

[Bo Dietl]

Well, we had tremendous support. We had tremendous support from our unions, even the higher echelon of the police department. I was very active. I met over 1500 felonies. I was a decoy cop 500 times. I was mugged up, hospitalized 30 times, stab shot and all that. When I got no fight with somebody and I had to do necessary force. Let's not call it a beating. Let's call it necessary force. I'm fighting so you don't get my gun. I punched him. I hit him with the. With the hand radio. I did whatever I had to do to get him or her. Not too many hers, but definitely get him restrained. And you know what I said, what I did and why I did it. And I was supported by. I was the recipient of 40 civilian complaints. I'm very proud of every one of them. And you know what? I was never founded on one of them because all I did was my job. And I told the truth. And that's it. I'm out there and I'm with my partner. I'm fighting with a guy with a knife or a gun. I want to make sure my partner goes home safely, and I go home safely. And I did what I had to do. Reasonable force today. Now you got video cameras. What they do is after the cop gets punched, they. They take the video of the second part of the cop arresting him, not the original incident that occurred. And with the advent of these cell phones, that's a destruction to the police department.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Also, could you do the job today? Because I know you love being it. You love being a detective. I mean, you like the work and all of that. Could you do it today?

[Bo Dietl]

No. And I think I would actually maybe break my son's Arm. If he wanted to become a New York City cop, I would not let him. Nobody I love will I let. Come on. The police department. It's a disgrace of what it's become, and I feel horrible. Now you have more than 55, 60% of the police department have under five years. That means you have inexperienced people out there that don't really want to do any kind of reaction. We used to go out there and we used to find a crime before these guys committed the crime. Find the bad guys. There's no proactivity with the police. Don't get involved. Drive by. I've seen them drive by many times where they're not getting involved. Oh, crime is down because no one is reporting quality.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Forget quality of life. So if you're a drug addict and you're sitting in front of a school with a needle in your neck, cops aren't going to do anything to you.

[Bo Dietl]

No and no. That's it. You can walk on these streets. Right Now, I'm on Fifth Avenue, 42nd street, right by Bryant Park. For people around the country, all the heart of New York City. You can walk out there anytime and you have people there. You can't wear watches. You can't do this. Everyone's scared stiff. Forget about getting on a train. You know, you go on a train, you take your life in hand. My son, who's 30 years old, my son Bo, he goes, bo, dad, you know what I do? I do no eye contact. He goes, if I do eye contact, I can get in a fight every two minutes with people.

[Unknown]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Last question. When you don't have an effective justice system, which in New York City, we do not, and you're right, it's the laws that Andrew Cuomo signed. Hochul comes all the way down. Okay. When you have a system that is collapsed, there is no protection for anybody. Wrong.

[Bo Dietl]

The worst thing in the world is the district attorney is supposed to be protecting those cops when they're doing their jobs. And when your district attorney, the prosecutor, don't support you, what the hell do police officers have? They have nothing. Then you got these judges, these liberal judges that don't care about the cops or don't care about the public. All they care about is the criminal element. This is what's wrong, Bill. And I tell you what, you talk about no spin zone. This is a spin into the toilet bowl for America across this country.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, it's happening across the country. Not just in New York. Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Baltimore, on and on. All right, Bo, you stay safe out there. And it's a good show. Godfather, Harlem. I mean, it's one of the few that I actually watch.

[Bo Dietl]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And it's very Tommy Lucchese.

[Bo Dietl]

Tommy Lucchese.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's. You played a gangster when your whole life you're trying to put those guys away.

[Bo Dietl]

Bill, I grew up with John Gotti. I went one way. They wanted another.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, but you didn't like John Gotti, so no comment. I didn't like him. All right, Bo Didle, everyone. There you go.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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