No Spin News - Weekend Edition - June 21, 2025

Summary

Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis Episode: No Spin News - Weekend Edition - June 21, 2025 Release Date: June 21, 2025

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Introduction

In the Weekend Edition of No Spin News, Bill O'Reilly engages in a series of in-depth discussions addressing critical geopolitical issues, domestic political challenges, and media biases. The episode features conversations with Stephen Nikila, Chairman of the Libertarian National Committee; Congressman Nick Lalota from New York; columnist Miranda Devine; and political strategist Doug Schoen. This summary encapsulates the key points, insights, and conclusions drawn from these discussions.

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Iran’s Nuclear Program and US Intelligence

Timestamp: [00:37] – [01:40]

Bill O'Reilly opens the episode by examining the contentious debate surrounding Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Referencing a recent appearance by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on FOX News, O'Reilly questions the shift in US intelligence reports about Iran's nuclear program.

Bill O’Reilly:
"Was the US intel wrong? Did something change from the end of March until this week?" ([00:37])

Doug Schoen:
"The intel we got and we shared. The United States was absolutely clear that they were working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium." ([01:25])

Schoen emphasizes that intelligence indicated Iran's swift progress towards developing a nuclear test device within months, contradicting earlier statements by Tulsi Gabbard, the then-new Director of National Intelligence, who had previously asserted that Iran's nuclear activities had been suspended since 2003.

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Libertarian Perspective on US Military Involvement

Timestamp: [02:45] – [10:11]

Stephen Nikila, representing the Libertarian Party, articulates a staunch non-interventionist stance. He argues against US involvement in overseas military actions, highlighting the potential for escalation into larger conflicts that could entangle the United States in prolonged and costly wars.

Stephen Nikila:
"We see this conflict as one that could potentially escalate and cascade into a regional conflict that could entangle the United States to have to come to the aid of Israel, which we're vehemently against." ([02:45])

Nikila asserts that authorization for supplying weapons to Israel and the ensuing calls for US involvement place the nation at risk of another "forever war," similar to engagements in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He advocates for diplomacy and economic strength over military intervention.

Bill O’Reilly:
"If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, the Libertarian Party of the United States is going to look foolish because Iran is not going to get the nuclear weapon for peaceful means. They're gonna use it with blackmail." ([04:32])

The discussion delves into the practicality and risks associated with complete non-involvement, emphasizing the potential for Iran to use nuclear capabilities as leverage against Israel and the broader implications for regional stability.

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Congressman Nick Lalota on Dark Money Attacks

Timestamp: [12:27] – [17:28]

Bill O'Reilly interviews Congressman Nick Lalota, who shares his personal experience with dark money undermining his political career. Lalota reveals that over $700,000 has been spent by shadowy groups to attack him and other House Republicans, primarily through misleading advertisements.

Nick Lalota:
"Dark money groups have spent an excess of $700,000 against me, spreading lies about the one big beautiful bill that honestly puts our country on a much better track." ([12:59])

Lalota describes these groups as temporary entities that adopt flashy names, spend substantial funds on negative ads, and dissolve within months, making it difficult to trace their origins. Despite being outspent in past elections, Lalota maintains that his constituents are resilient and supportive, often winning by significant margins despite the onslaught of misleading information.

Bill O’Reilly:
"These are pop-ups to get Congressman Lalota and 10 others to in districts that they feel could go either way." ([15:17])

The conversation highlights the challenges faced by politicians targeting them with untraceable funding aimed at swaying public opinion through false narratives.

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Media Bias and the Hunter Biden Laptop Controversy

Timestamp: [17:32] – [29:53]

Miranda Devine, a columnist for the New York Post, discusses the media’s handling of the Hunter Biden laptop story. She criticizes mainstream media outlets for their initial dismissal and subsequent select acknowledgment of the story without revisiting or correcting earlier misinformation.

Miranda Devine:
"They just seamlessly moved into, oh yes, you know, the laptop is real and oh, oh yes, you know, then it's used in a court of law as evidence. But they never go back and revisit their own errors or correct them." ([23:59])

Devine argues that established media organizations, particularly the New York Times and CNN, exhibit a persistent bias that favors progressive narratives while suppressing or discrediting opposing viewpoints. She contrasts this with the growing influence of alternative media sources like No Spin News, the New York Post, and popular podcasts that offer more balanced perspectives.

Bill O’Reilly:
"I think that the corrupt media knew it was false as well, but they didn't care." ([21:08])

The discussion underscores the perceived polarization and lack of accountability within mainstream media, advocating for diversification of information sources to achieve a more accurate and unbiased understanding of events.

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Public Support for Action Against Iran

Timestamp: [31:10] – [35:14]

Political strategist Doug Schoen presents data from a formal poll indicating that approximately two-thirds of US adults support Israel's actions against Iran’s nuclear program.

Doug Schoen:
"They’ve been negotiating, I think in bad faith... but Donald Trump increasingly doubts it himself. But I could see how an ordinary person at home would say, well, we should have given diplomacy more." ([35:14])

Despite the strong public backing, Schoen notes that opinions fluctuate over time, as seen during the Iraq War, where initial support waned as the conflict dragged on. He emphasizes that current support is influenced by the weakening state of Iran’s regime and proxies in the region, coupled with public endorsement of decisive action to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

Bill O’Reilly:
"Only 51% of Americans say that Israel is acting in self-defense. Does that surprise you?" ([34:39])

Schoen responds by acknowledging the complexities of public opinion and the challenges in maintaining consistent support for long-term military engagements. He reiterates the strategic necessity of addressing Iran's nuclear ambitions promptly to align with public sentiment.

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Conclusion and Final Insights

The episode culminates with Bill O'Reilly and Doug Schoen discussing the imminent threat posed by Iran’s nuclear ambitions and the strategic considerations for US intervention. O'Reilly emphasizes the urgency of decisive action to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, drawing parallels to historical instances of aggressive expansion by authoritarian regimes.

Bill O’Reilly:
"We're tapping this late afternoon. It could happen an hour from now. If you bomb, that's the end of the mullahs. Their regime is over." ([37:26])

Schoen concurs, highlighting the potential for rapid decision-making in the Trump administration and the broader implications for regional and global stability.

Doug Schoen:
"It's undeniably the case. Anytime you launch that kind of a strike, the possibility for collateral risk, damage, and developments that we can't now anticipate are heightened exponentially." ([37:54])

The episode underscores the delicate balance between diplomatic efforts and the necessity of preemptive actions to maintain national and global security.

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Key Takeaways

• Libertarian Opposition to Military Intervention: Stephen Nikila articulates a consistent libertarian stance against US involvement in foreign conflicts, advocating for diplomacy and economic strategies over military engagement.

• Impact of Dark Money on Politics: Congressman Nick Lalota exposes the challenges posed by untraceable dark money in undermining political figures through misleading advertisements.

• Media Bias and Information Control: Miranda Devine critiques mainstream media for biased reporting and suppression of dissenting narratives, advocating for alternative media sources to ensure a balanced perspective.

• Public Support for Action Against Iran: Surveys indicate significant public backing for decisive actions against Iran’s nuclear program, reflecting a critical juncture in US foreign policy.

• Urgency in Addressing Nuclear Threats: Don O'Reilly and Doug Schoen emphasize the immediate need for action to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, highlighting the potential global repercussions of inaction.

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This comprehensive summary captures the essence of the No Spin News - Weekend Edition podcast, providing valuable insights into the discussions that define the current geopolitical and domestic political landscape.

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Stephen Nikila]

Welcome to the no Spin News Weekend Edition.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Now, before the president left for Canada and he's not real popular there, as you know, there's a lot of debate about Israel and Iran, the usa. So Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, appeared on FOX News and it was a very interesting back and forth go. You know, I just want to press you on the intel on the nuclear part. Less than two months ago, the new director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard testified on Capitol Hill saying that everything had been suspended since 2003 and had not restarted, that the nuclear program had not been restarted by the Iranians. So did something change from end of March until this week? Was the US intel wrong?

[Doug Schoen]

The intel we got and we shared.

[Bill O'Reilly]

With the United States was absolutely clear, was absolutely clear that they were working.

[Doug Schoen]

In a secret plan to weaponize the uranium.

[Miranda Devine]

They were marching very quickly.

[Doug Schoen]

They would achieve a test device and.

[Miranda Devine]

Possibly an initial device within months and.

[Doug Schoen]

Certainly less than a year.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. But again, I'm going back to my conversation with the president yesterday. It's not what Netanyahu believes. It's what Donald Trump believes. Now, Tulsi Gabbard has been an isolationist forever. Now, I was a little surprised that she got the nod to be the national security director. She has not walked back her initial opinion, but it doesn't matter. One thing that matters is the president's opinion. All right. Joining us now from Key West, Florida is Stephen Nikila, who is a chairman of the Libertarian National Committee. And I asked for Mr. Nikila because libertarians generally don't want any kind of United States involvement overseas in these kinds of military actions. So I assume you object to this, right?

[Stephen Nikila]

Yes. And thank you so much, Bill, for having me on. We as Libertarian Party have been against foreign entanglements for over 50 years since the original platform of the Libertarian Party was created. We've opposed all foreign wars, especially wars like Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and potentially a war with Iran. And we see this conflict as one that could potentially escalate and cascade into a regional conflict that could entangle the United States to have to come to the aid of Israel, which we're vehemently against. I believe that the Iranian government is first and foremost a threat to its own people. They're an authoritarian regime. I believe Israel does have the right to defend itself. I believe they are correct to be adversarial with Iran, perhaps even kinetic adversaries. But as far as United States supplying weapons, supplying isr, and the Israelis asking for the United States to get involved again and again, I think we're in a dangerous position where I think Trump's instincts are correct not to get involved directly with entanglement with Iran. That could spiral out of control, especially when the end game is. Is not clear. If the end game is for Iran not to receive or to create nuclear weapons, then the Israeli attacks on supposed Iranian infrastructure should be sufficient. But as the war continues to escalate, we may find ourselves in another forever war that we may be ending up spending billions if not trillions of dollars on, just as we have with the global war on terror over the past several decades. Okay, so.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you're making a few mistakes because you're doing a lot of Wooda might and all of that. If Iran gets a nuclear weapon, the Libertarian Party of the United States is going to look foolish because Iran is not going to get the nuclear weapon for. For peaceful means. They're gonna use it with blackmail. They might even use it literally. They wanna kill all Jews. So I don't know how any political party can say, yeah, we're okay, let Iran get a nuclear weapon. And without the United States support, you know, not direct military, but certainly weapons and intel, the Israelis aren't gonna knock out completely the nuclear facilities. They're buried under mountains. You know that they're going to require major bombs that Israel doesn't have. So the Libertarian Party puts itself in a position of saying, you know, if the mullahs get the nukes, that's okay, or am I being unfair?

[Stephen Nikila]

We. We believe that the best. The best way to come to an end of this conflict would be to pursue diplomacy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, that's not going to work and you know it.

[Stephen Nikila]

So look, at this point, this seems to be. Israeli have attacked.

[Bill O'Reilly]

With all due respect, we have tried diplomacy for years. If you read my column on Obama and Biden, they tried to bribe them. They tried to do everything to him. So let's live in the real world, Stephen, please. Because if you don't the discussion just goes off the rails. So right now the Libertarian Party would be okay if the mullahs got the nukes. Now we go to Ukraine. So you don't want the United States to supply Zelensky with military gear, right?

[Stephen Nikila]

That is correct. I believe that the further the the west and NATO pushes Ukraine towards war.

[Bill O'Reilly]

With Russia or it's already a war then, Steven. It's already war started when Putin invaded, okay?

[Stephen Nikila]

Correct. 2014.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I understand that a little bit better than I understand the nuclear thing in Iran. So you don't want the United States to be involved. So if the United States isn't involved, the likelihood is that Putin takes over Ukraine because they need money and weaponry from the usa. EU can do a little bit, but we're the big dog. I just returned from China, Stephen. It is without a doubt that if the United States withdraws from helping Zelensky and Ukraine, the Chinese will seize Taiwan militarily. They're waiting to see what happens. You'd be okay with the Chinese seizing Taiwan, Right.

[Stephen Nikila]

We believe that the Taiwanese, the Ukrainians and the Israelis can certainly purchase weapons from our military industrial conflicts. But the more and more the United States gets involved in these conflicts and either directly or through proxies, the closer this brings us to World War III and a potential nuclear escalation. I don't see net in sight. In the war with Ukraine and Russia, there was an opportunity for Russia and Ukraine to come to an agreement. In Turkey, Boris Johnson told Zelensky not to capitulate to the terms of the peace agreement, that we would supply them with weapons in order to fight the Russians. And right now the west is pushing Ukraine to fight down. To fight Russia down. The very last Ukrainian. So I don't.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You're talking about giant countries like Russia invading Ukraine and China invading Taiwan. The little countries can't stand up. It's just like Hitler when Hitler took Austria and then he took Czechoslovakia and then he went into the Saar and then he started rolling. It's the same exact thing that we've seen for just millennium that the big countries with the psychotic leaders take over the little countries. But the U.S. libertarian Party does not seem concerned about that. And that concerns me. You see where I'm coming from.

[Stephen Nikila]

I can see your concern. I think most Americans are concerned right now with inflation. We're concerned with our tax dollars.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, but you're not going to have. You're not going to have a worldwide economy. If you have disorder, social disorder all over the world, the world economy collapses. If you Have China on the march. If you have Putin on the march, the worldwide economy is going to collapse. So they can be concerned about inflation, but it's going to get a lot worse if you don't have social order. I'll give you the last word.

[Stephen Nikila]

I think the United States post World War II did a great job expanding throughout the world economically. We became a bastion of freedom, an economic powerhouse. Now we see China becoming that economic powerhouse. We need to get back to our roots as an economic superpower and, and a foreign policy based on non intervention diplomacy and trade. Rather than being the world's policeman weapons manufacturer. The Libertarian Party has stood strong in non interventionalism. Want to be closer to Switzerland, not isolationist like North Korea. We believe that the United States cannot continue with these forever wars. We already pay a quarter of our taxes go straight to interest. We're going bankrupt as a, as a country. And Americans are just weary of any new conflicts. And at this point they're unsustainable. And the Libertarian Party sees peace as the only option and economics and diplomacy as the true right arm of freedom and democracy. From the United States.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Miranda Devine]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Now there was an incident here on Long island where I am with a Congressman Nick Lalota, who was attacked by shadowy dark money. So we wanted the congressman to come on and he joins us now from Hop Hog, New York. I was very interested in the personal story here, not the bigger picture. So you know, I have a house in your district and I know you from the campaign trail and all that. What happened to you? Exactly.

[Nick Lalota]

So so far, dark money groups have spent an excess of $700,000 against me. And by the way, I'm not the only one there. They're spending about against about 10 or 11 House Republicans, but so far they've spent about $700,000 against me. Spreading lies about the one big beautiful bill that honestly puts our country on a much better track. It ensures that we save money for future generations, secures our border and puts the nation on a better track. But yet they're spreading lies about Medicaid in particular, and so far spending a lot of money doing so.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, who's they? You got the 1630 fund? Is that what it is? What is that?

[Nick Lalota]

Groups that put up a new fancy name and they unwind the group six, nine months later after they're done spending their dark money. We often don't know the sources or the interests that are specifically behind these attack ads, which are mostly false, meant to scare residents, my constituents, into thinking things that are true, that aren't. And it's really just a shame that they would go about this tactic when this bill is centered around work requirements. Work requirements used to be a bipartisan initiative. In fact, Bill Clinton, while he was president, supported the notion that if you wanted to receive federal government benefits and if you were an able bodied adult, you had to work for him.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Nick Lalota]

And he merely states that 80 hours a month is all you got to work if you're able bodied to get your Medicaid or get your food Stamps.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Any intelligent American knows what this propaganda campaign is, but you yourself were targeted. Now, you came up with a figure. $700,000, right. You're adding up the television ads that went after you. Is that how you got to that figure?

[Nick Lalota]

Yeah, it's only the TV part. We don't, aren't able to yet quantify what they've spent in the mailbox of the TV component alone is seven or a thousand. We estimate the mail component to be about the same.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The companies that ran the ads should be able to tell you who bought the ads, right?

[Nick Lalota]

Yes. Three or four shadowy groups that have these temporary names, they stand up these organizations, they wind them down three, six, nine months later after they're done smearing their crap across America. It's by design that it's not attached to a permanent long standing name that enables them to conduct their shadowy exercises.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so these are, these are pop ups to get Congressman Lalota and 10 others to in districts that they feel could go either way. Because your district, the first district on Long island is in a lock to, to go Republican. Now when you expose this kind of stuff as that's what you're doing here, you're going to look, I'm a Congressman, I'm voting my conscience. I think that the Trump spending and tax bill is good for the country. This is your job, that's what you're supposed to do. And yet I'm attacked by a shadowy group and we don't even know who's giving the money to. What do the people say? I mean, anybody outraged about this or are we just accepting that this is the landscape now?

[Nick Lalota]

So there's a country song or two that has lyric that sounds something like when you tell a lie about me, I'm gonna tell the truth about you. And that's been my response to these things all along. You know, we're Long Islanders, we like to be plain spoken. We like to hear the truth told to us. And when I come back with what the actual components of the one big beautiful bill are, overwhelmingly my constituents support it. So fortunately, through social media, traditional media, and just getting the word out there in between, we're able to essentially blunt some of these false attacks ahead of time. But these have become par for the course. I think for the most part my constituents are desensitized to attacks like this. There's been a lot of spending in my district over the last couple of cycles. I've been outspent each of the last three elections. I've been in massively 2 to 1, 3 to 1 and 6 to 1. Yet we've won each one of them by 10 points or more. So I think my constituents understand that what they hear from these shadowy commercials isn't true. And I'm especially blunting it out there every day.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right. If you get any further information about individuals, let us know. You know, we pinpointed Soros, of course, in the heir to the Walmart fortune, but we want to kind of assemble this dark money list of people who are really helping us. Congressman, we wish you the best. Thanks for taking the time to talk to us today.

[Miranda Devine]

This is the no Spin News WEEKEND edition.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Joining us now from New York City is a columnist for the New York Post who writes about these kinds of things all the time. But she's a new podcast, that Red Seat, which we're in business with, is promoting. It's called Podcast one, and it's going to deal with politics. And Miranda Devine has access to a lot of very interesting guests and she will be doing that podcast. We hope you check it out. So, Ms. Devine, first of all, am I making any mistakes in my Iranian analysis?

[Miranda Devine]

No, I don't think so at all. And I mean, you know President Trump very well and have known him for many years. And you know that people can't pigeonhole him as either a warmonger or a dove. He's, he's sort of criticized for both things. But as he says, he just tries to apply common sense. And that's what he's been doing. Now. He's been crystal clear from the beginning, throughout the campaign and previously that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay.

[Miranda Devine]

That's all.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Do you think he's making any mistakes? Should he be more aggressive? Should he be more passive on it? Is he making any mistakes, in your opinion?

[Miranda Devine]

I don't think so. I mean, look, he hasn't done anything overt yet. He's just threatened the ayatollah. He said, we have complete control of the skies. Obviously, Israel has degraded Iran's defenses. So now is a good time to go in and just smash the nuclear facilities.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's all. But what if Israel can't smash them because they don't have the bombs that we have and say the mullahs hold out and the only way to obliterate the nuke stuff is for the United States to bomb these mountainsides? Would you support that?

[Miranda Devine]

That is the only way, because these, this, these nuclear facilities are buried very deep down and only the US has these B2 bombers that are capable of carrying the bombs that can actually get near them. So, I mean, unfortunately, America is the only country in the world with the ability to do this. And I think President Trump has been weighing this decision very, you know, with great care. And his message to the Ayatollah just short time ago, saying, surrender, unconditional surrender. We don't want the Ayatollah dead. He's safe for now. This is a clear, you know, he's moved on.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's trying to get right. It would be much better if they threw their hands off and then the United nations could go in in conjunction with the United States and just take.

[Miranda Devine]

It's not going to happen, probably. But I mean, a limited strike, just do that and get out.

[Bill O'Reilly]

What could happen is the Iranian people, the Persians will rise up, and if that happens, the army will turn. And that's what Trump is really hoping for. He's not hoping for any rationality on a part of the Ayatollah. Okay. He's hoping that the Persian people will say, enough. And that's why he's saying, get out of Tehran, you know, this and that. And it's possible that happens. Not probable, but possible.

[Miranda Devine]

Well, we hoped for that in Iraq and it didn't happen.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Sure, we hope for it a lot of places, and it didn't happen. But I do agree with you that Trump is not going to allow this thing to go back to where it was, in a sense that it signed some kind of deal, and the deal is murky. And they still have this capacity. Trump has come to the conclusion, and I know this to be true, that they're done. And if we have to push him over the edge, we'll probably push him over the edge. But if we do that, we'd have trouble with China in particular. And that is a huge, huge story. And I know that because I was just in Beijing. China didn't care about the mullahs. They don't care about them one bit. But they don't want the United States pushing people around and using military action. So that's what Trump had, a very, very complicated situation. I also want to talk to you today about the media. You know, people may not know this, who don't live in the New York area, but Miranda Devine was right in the middle of the Hunter Biden laptop thing, where the New York Post, to its credit, got the laptop printed, what was on it. And then the mainstream media, the corporate media, attacked the New York Post, saying it was all bogus, which those of us who are honest brokers of information knew was false. And I think that the corrupt media knew it was false as well, but they didn't care. But anyway, you went through a long period of time where you were fighting these people and then they finally admitted defeat and said, yeah, yeah, the New York Post had it right, blah, blah, blah. Do you see any improvement?

[Stephen Nikila]

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[Miranda Devine]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Get [e-mail] in those people who reported dishonestly about Hunter Biden.

[Miranda Devine]

No, all they do is morph. You know, they never said that the New York Post got it right. They just seamlessly moved into, oh yes, you know, the laptop is real and oh, oh yes, you know, then it's used in a court of law as evidence. Oh yes, it. But they never go back and revisit their own errors or correct them. They are so arrogant. I'm thinking particularly of the New York Times, which is, you know, all the news that's fit to print except anything that's damaging to the Democrats or might help Donald Trump. And they sort of set the agenda for all the newsrooms, not just in the United States but around the world. And so that's the skewed perspective of America that's transmitted and it's through the eyes of the New York Times, which has not got a grasp on reality and they haven't changed at all.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But they don't want to grasp on reality. They're in business to promote a certain lifestyle, a progressive lifestyle, and that's what they want to do. You're an interesting person. Person to me anyway, because you worked in the media in Australia, I believe, in Japan, in England and in the United States. So you have a perspective a worldwide. My theory, and I could be wrong, of course, is that we have the most corrupt media in the free world right now, America, I mean, the BBC is pretty corrupt, but we're really bad. Now, do you concur?

[Miranda Devine]

No, not at all. I didn't actually work in Japan. I was a child. I grew up there. But look, I think that, I mean, I take Australia and England, they're dominated by the BBC and in Australia, the other government funded equivalent state television called the abc. And they are so dominate the rest of the media that they are completely un trammeled by any semblance of the truth. And they are incredibly partisan and basically pedal propaganda. Now, they're no different, I guess, from the New York Times, the Washington Post, cnn, etc, but at least in the United States there are disparate voices and those voices are getting stronger as the American people wake up to the fact that they've been lied to by those august established media organs. And they look for alternate sources of news like Bill O'Reilly's no Spin Zone, like the New York Post and our new podcasts, like Joe Rogan even. I mean there are lots.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, I mean, and there's a study, there's a study out today, we're going to report on tomorrow that the alternative news agencies have now seen surpassed the. Which is obviously true. But you know, here's the rub on it. It isn't ideology that has sunk them, although that's a part of it. They're boring, Miranda. They're boring.

[Miranda Devine]

Well, they know that.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You know that. They just, because they're all parrots, they get their little at a K Street every morning. They get their little talking points, their editors just gut them. Okay, you say this, you say that, and if you don't want to say it, you're not working for us. And so these people go on there and they're like zombies. You don't learn anything. They're not seeking the truth. They couldn't care less. What they want to do is keep their own jobs. And on television I made my name by having robust debate on the Fox News Channel. Now all of them just bring in people who agree with everybody. Tell me more. You know, it's like we don't have fire anymore and people are going, ah. So I think that that's why, because the social media is so much more lively and gets to your pod Force One. So you're going into a sea of podcasts. This is not a podcast, this is a broadcast here. But you're Going to a sea of it. Last question. How are you going to make it different?

[Miranda Devine]

Look, I guess just the relationships that I've built up with the cabinet members and President Trump, I guess they trust me and I'm hoping to ask them questions that are obviously of the news of the day. But you know, in my normal interviews with people, I'm looking for, you know, a front page story, exclusive, something on whatever is the hot topic. But this is a bit more relaxed. You have more time. I had 45 minutes with the president and I just had an over an hour with Treasury Secretary Scott Besant. And you know, it's just probing, I guess. What motivates them, what their desires are, what their background is, what drives them. They're all incredibly, you know, they don't get to these positions of power without being driven and unique. People with a perspective on success and an ability to get success. That it means that they have a lot of lessons for the rest of us. And look, also many of them have personal lives that are not chaotic, that are pretty stable. And how did they manage to do that? I'm interested in that. When these powerful men and women, what drives them behind the scenes as well?

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so Part four one is the new podcast. Well, anyway, if you get anything good, I mean, not good, but big, let us know, we'll throw you right on. We appreciate it. Good luck with it. Thank you.

[Miranda Devine]

You're listening to the NOSFA News Weekend edition.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So I can't predict with any certainty what will happen. I do know that air power plans are drawn up and Donald Trump could act on them anytime he wants. It's up to him, 100%. Israel doesn't have much say in this. Israel have to do what we tell them to do. And Netanyahu will be thrilled if we go in and dismantle that furlough Mountain. And the anti Semites, the anti Israel progressive crew, they're touting that we're lackeys to Israel. You know that that's what all those Columbia University things were all about. You know, Israel's a terrorist state, is a genocide, on and on and on and on. But in real life, Israel's not going to let Iran have an atomic weapon, an atom bomb, a nuclear weapon, because Iran wants to kill them all. If you lived in Jerusalem, you feel his name way. And that's the memo. I was bringing a guy who's watching this very closely, Doug Schoen, you know him, we use him a lot. Democrat political strategist down in Miami. So you say that you have seen a survey of 800 US adults on this issue. What do they say?

[Doug Schoen]

By 2 to 1 they support what Israel is doing.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Doug Schoen]

You made the point in your Talking Points memo that there are isolationist elites who are speaking against any involvement or entanglement. The American people get that the Iranian regime is a terrorist regime, that they are seeking to develop nuclear weapons, and by better than 2 to 1 they support the actions of the Israeli government to try to dismantle that apparatus.

[Bill O'Reilly]

How do you know that though? Was this a formal poll taken or.

[Doug Schoen]

Yeah, it was a formal poll. It was done for a group. It was done for a Jewish group. Full disclosure. But they didn't tell us what to ask or what to do. We asked a random sample of 800Americans, as we would in any political poll, what they thought and there is clear support now. Your point is also right, Bill. These attitudes do change. We saw during the Iraq war. There was big support at the start and then by the end of the Iraq war, less support. Support for Israel after October 7th. That's dissipated for the reasons we've all discussed. But bottom line, right now there's support for action. And I would argue, Bill, that if you're in the Trump White House, and again, I can't speak for his decision. Nor can anyone. But this is a time when the Iranian government is weaker, their proxies in the region are weaker, and public opinion is supportive of action against their nuclear.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, it's the right time to move them. If you're going to do that. One of the questions you have is do you support Israel's actions as self defense against Iran? Only 51% of Americans say that Israel is acting in self defense. Does that surprise you?

[Doug Schoen]

No, it doesn't. Because unless you're watching this very closely every day, you don't believe that Iran, which has been negotiating, I think in bad faith, but whatever faith you think, well, you know, they've been negotiating and maybe there was a possibility of a deal. I don't believe there was. I don't think you believe there was one. The Israelis certainly don't. But then I think Donald Trump increasingly doubts it himself. But I could see how an ordinary person at home would say, well, you know, we should have given diplomacy more.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Of a chance, okay? But there comes a point where diplomacy acts against your own self interest if it just goes on and on and on and on and on. Which is what this has been, what this is years. We were going through this, Doug and I told Hannity on his radio program today. It's funny when the Democrats, your party, criticizes the lack of diplomacy because none of this would have happened if not for President Biden. Once Biden surrendered in Afghanistan, then Putin started on the march, China started on the march. Iran started to upgrade its uranium and kick more money because Biden and Obama gave them billions and billions of dollars into Hezbollah and Hamas. This all goes back to Biden. Yet the Democrats.

[Doug Schoen]

Do you think it goes back to Obama and the jcpoa?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Not quite as much. I walk through this. Obama made a huge mistake and he delivered the president, Obama delivered the money to, to the mullahs. Billion dollars cash in cash on a private plate full of suitcases and nobody knew about it. That tells you that that was but Biden's weakness. And I know this because I was in Beijing three weeks ago, okay? And you know, once the Chinese saw that, that Biden surrendered in Afghanistan, boom, South China Sea all over the place. They're intruding Straits of Taiwan because they knew that Biden wouldn't do anything and he didn't do anything, okay, so that Trump was handed this massive disorder throughout the world. But Trump does not want to use American military power because of the unintended consequences that few people understand. There will be consequences if we bomb that mountain in Iran.

[Doug Schoen]

That's undeniably the case. Anytime you launch that kind of a strike. The possibility for collateral risk, damage and developments that we can't now anticipate are heightened exponentially. So I think Trump is ready to act. From what I see. No, he's ready would be supportive. But whether he pulls the trigger or not, literally and metaphorically, time will tell. I think it'll be a quick decision one way or the other.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, I'm giving. It could happen. Look, we're taping this late afternoon. It could happen an hour from now. And it's hard to get a handle on it, on what he's. Because I don't know the intel coming in. So there's a lot of intel coming in to him about the mullahs and their condition and the Iranian army and their point of view. But I think that if I had to advise the president, I have not been on this, I would say give it as much time as you can, but tell the mullahs through the Swiss ambassador, that's how it goes, that, you know, 48 hours are going to get their heads cut off. I mean, I would do that behind.

[Doug Schoen]

The scenes, having worked for five Israeli prime ministers, worked for a couple of American presidents. That's very sound advice, Bill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. Because once we bomb, that's the end of the mullahs. Their regime is over. The mullahs could keep their power if they surrender.

[Doug Schoen]

That's correct. It's like Gaddafi making Trump steal. In a heartbeat.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. So it's like Gaddafi. All right, Doug, thanks very much. We always appreciate your expertise.

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