No Spin News - Weekend Edition - May 16, 2025

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Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Title: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis
Episode: No Spin News - Weekend Edition - May 16, 2025
Release Date: May 17, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Description: No Spin. Just Facts. Always looking out for you. Head to BillOReilly.com for more analysis.

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1. Introduction

In the Weekend Edition of "No Spin News," hosted by Bill O’Reilly, the discussion delves into significant geopolitical developments, the state of press freedom in the United States, and the evolving landscape of comedy and media. The episode features insights from Edward Jajirian, a former U.S. Ambassador, and Jeff Ahearn, a political analyst.

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2. U.S.-Saudi Relations and Defense Contracts

Edward Jajirian begins the discussion by addressing the current state of U.S.-Saudi relations. He highlights a substantial deal on the table:

• Timestamp [01:08]: "So on the table is 600 million from Saudi Arabia. Billion, I should say 600 billion. The biggest part of that is US defense firm contracts."

Jajirian emphasizes that Saudi Arabia is poised to purchase a significant amount of U.S. arms and invest in artificial intelligence, totaling approximately $600 billion. Despite historical tensions, these deals are portrayed as beneficial for both nations' economic and security interests.

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3. Trump’s Foreign Policy Strategy

Jeff Ahearn provides an analysis of former President Donald Trump's approach to foreign policy:

• Timestamp [02:46]: "He’s a transactional president... I like to define his methodology, Bill, as disruptive or constructive uncertainty."

Ahearn describes Trump's strategy as one that introduces unconventional ideas to unsettle counterparts, thereby gaining negotiating leverage. He cites the tariff negotiations with China as an example, illustrating a reduction from 145% to 30%, with China responding at 10%.

Additionally, Ahearn notes Trump's "America First" principle, focusing on policies that benefit America's prosperity and security while avoiding entanglement in foreign wars.

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4. Hostage Negotiations and U.S.-Israel Relations

Edward Jajirian shares his personal involvement in hostage negotiations, shedding light on the dynamics between Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu:

• Timestamp [04:54]: "Trump doesn’t want any armed conflict... he won’t do it unless we’re attacked."

Jajirian contrasts Trump's reluctance to engage in military interventions with Netanyahu's aggressive stance against groups like Hamas and Hezbollah. He recounts Trump's successful efforts in securing the release of hostages, attributing it to Trump's decisive leadership and willingness to negotiate directly.

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5. Press Freedom in the United States

The conversation shifts to the declining state of press freedom in the U.S., featuring insights from Clayton Weimers, Executive Director of Reporters Without Borders USA.

• Timestamp [12:45]: "We’ve seen a consistent backslide on press freedom... across all five of those categories."

Weimers explains that the U.S. has fallen in the World Press Freedom Index due to economic challenges, political pressures, legislative changes, security concerns, and social factors. Key issues include:

• Economic Decline: Massive job losses in the media sector and consolidation of media companies have led to fewer independent voices and the closure of local news outlets.

• Partisan Media: The rise of media outlets that cater to specific political ideologies undermines objective reporting. Weimers points out that this trend is not confined to the U.S. but is being exported globally.

• Attacks on Journalists: Increased polarization has led to more harassment and physical attacks against journalists, further eroding press freedom.

Edward Jajirian counters by asserting that much of the media is inherently biased, emphasizing that the proliferation of partisan news outlets has led to a distrust of traditional media.

• Timestamp [16:04]: "Many Americans don’t want to know the Truth. They want to believe what they want to believe."

The discussion highlights a deep divide in media consumption, where audiences gravitate towards sources that reinforce their existing beliefs rather than seeking objective truths.

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6. The State of Comedy and Media Bias

Bill O’Reilly and Edward Jajirian transition to examining the comedy industry's shift towards left-wing perspectives:

• Timestamp [25:18]: "They have to play out of state... they’re afraid to say it."

O’Reilly discusses how conservative comedians face challenges in mainstream venues due to the dominance of left-leaning narratives. He notes that many traditional comedians have either adapted to these changes or left the industry altogether.

• Timestamp [26:32]: "Most of the media in America is... they take sides."

Jajirian echoes these sentiments, pointing out that even prominent figures like Amy Poehler and Tina Fey epitomize the left-wing shift in comedy. He laments the lack of space for conservative or non-partisan comedy, attributing it to an industry that prioritizes political correctness over diverse viewpoints.

• Timestamp [28:04]: "When you have this diminished standing of the news media... you're really lowering the bar for harassment and attacks."

This segment underscores the broader theme of how political biases infiltrate various facets of media and entertainment, contributing to societal polarization.

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7. Conclusion

In the closing segments, the hosts briefly touch upon additional topics, including attacks on journalists and the personal experiences of the guests within the media landscape. The episode wraps up with promotional segments, which were omitted from this summary per the request to exclude advertisements and non-content sections.

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Notable Quotes:

• Edward Jajirian [01:08]: "So on the table is 600 million from Saudi Arabia. Billion, I should say 600 billion. The biggest part of that is US defense firm contracts."

• Jeff Ahearn [02:46]: "He’s a transactional president... I like to define his methodology, Bill, as disruptive or constructive uncertainty."

• Edward Jajirian [16:04]: "Many Americans don’t want to know the Truth. They want to believe what they want to believe."

• Bill O’Reilly [25:18]: "They have to play out of state... they’re afraid to say it."

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Final Thoughts:

This episode of "No Spin News - Weekend Edition" provides a comprehensive analysis of current geopolitical affairs, the deteriorating state of press freedom in the U.S., and the challenges faced by conservative voices in the comedy and media industries. Through insightful discussions with experts, Bill O’Reilly navigates complex topics, offering listeners a perspective aligned with his "No Spin" philosophy.

Transcript

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Welcome to the no Spin News WEEKEND edition.

[Edward Jajirian]

Not much happened in Saudi Arabia today. President had a briefing, but he didn't say anything differently. Iran can't get a nuke and we're making all kinds of deals. So on the table is 600 million from Saudi Arabia. Billion, I should say 600 billion. The biggest part of that is US defense firm contracts. All right, so the sultans are going to buy a lot of arms from us and then 20 million in AI they're going to buy from us and then all kinds of other stuff. So $600 billion of deals. The Saudis are going to buy from the usa and that's a good thing. I know a lot of people don't like Saudi Arabia. I'm not crazy about it. But if they're going to spend that kind of money. Okay, get another perspective on this. All right, I've been bloviating too long here. Let's bring in Edward Jajirian from the Kennedy School at Harvard up in Cambridge, Massachusetts. He is a former US Ambassador to Israel appointed by President Clinton. Before that ambassador to Syria appointed by Ronald Reagan. Now, that can't ever happen again. So the professor is in a unique position. A Democrat appoints a very important position, Israel, after a Republican appointed him to Syria. But you never get that now because the two parties are so far apart. All right, my analysis, professor, did I make any mistakes here?

[Jeff Ahearn]

No, I don't think you're getting any mistakes, Bill. I think you've characterized President Trump's modus operandi on foreign policy, I think, pretty well. He's, as we know, a transactional president. He's not a intellectual strategy president like Richard Nixon. But I like to define his methodology, Bill, as disruptive or constructive uncertainty what do I mean by that? He throws out a lot of ideas, as we've seen on domestic policy and foreign policy, and some of them really seem to be totally wild. But then it causes in the interlocutor, be it a country or another leader, you know, it puts the interlocutor he's dealing with immediately on the back foot. How am I going to respond to this? And it sort of softens him up for the deal. And then he negotiates the deal. As we've seen on the tariffs with China, you know, we've gone down from 145% down to 30%, and Chinese are putting in 10% against us. And this is his methodology throughout. And I think that that's his methodology. I think his principled approach is America first in all dimensions in domestic and foreign policy, what's good for America's prosperity, security, etc. And then the other thing I think is very important, and I may be dead wrong on this, but I really think inherently that Trump is adverse, adverse to America's engagement in foreign wars, the Vietnams, the Afghanistans, the Iraq wars. And he doesn't want, under his watch to be an American president that is mired in yet another, for example, Middle east war. And this, I think, is really critical because when you look at the team he's put together, it's really hard line. Well, I won't call them neocons.

[Edward Jajirian]

Let me jump in. Let me jump in because I know something about this personally. You're absolutely right, 100% right. Trump doesn't want any armed conflict. You know, he'll threaten, he'll be Belacos, yeah, we're going to go invade Panama or we're going to do this. But he doesn't want to do it. He won't do it unless we're attacked. And the proof here this week is that he went to the Gulf without consulting Netanyahu in Israel at all. And Netanyahu is an armed confrontation guy. He wants to wipe out every Hamas, Hezbollah, terrorist that he can find. Trump doesn't want that. And that's one of the reasons he got the hostage out. Now, many people know this, but I was directly involved in December last year in the hostage negotiations. And I can't really explain on television why, but there was a reason that I was involved as a private citizen, and that was when a lot of the hostage lay down happened, not before Trump was inaugurated, because both administrations were involved. And as you know, as former ambassador to Israel, there's so many different factions over there working against Each other that Trump is just. It's blank. This. I'm gonna do what I want because I'm the big dog, and they're just gonna have to follow in line. That's what's happening over there.

[Jeff Ahearn]

I could agree with you. It's exactly what he did. And it's remarkable there's such a body of public opinion in Israel pressuring Netanyahu to prioritize the remaining hostage releases. I think they're 51 now, 24 alive.

[Edward Jajirian]

They. They say. And I think, yeah, I think that number is solid because Trump has sent a message to the Hamas people. You lie to me, then I'm going to let Netanyahu loose. So I think it's 24 alive. All right. I have to. I'm using this interview as a personal. And this is kind of like the gutter plane. This is personal to me. I'm going to China in 10 days, and I'm meeting with a lot of Xi's guys. So, I mean, I'm doing this again as a journalist, number one, but as a private citizen, number two. So I'll be carrying some messages over to Beijing. I have no experience with the Chinese. Can I be me over there? Can I just. No. Spin it and say, look, this isn't the deal. Can I do that?

[Jeff Ahearn]

Oh, I think you can. I think they've. They've done their homework on you, Bill.

[Edward Jajirian]

Yeah, they invited me.

[Jeff Ahearn]

They invited you, They've done you. And so that's. That's a green light right there. No, I think you can be. I think you can be very open in your characteristic way with the Chinese. But, but if I, if you're asking my advice, one thing I would do is first I'd. To what they have to say, listen and try and convey that you know where they're coming from. You want to hear where they're coming from, and then you listen to what they say, and then you discuss that and see if there's any common ground.

[Edward Jajirian]

No, I will. Q and A at the, at the Beijing Club. I didn't even know there was a Beijing Club. I'm glad it's inside. For every question they ask me, I'm going to ask them a question. That's what it's going to be. So I'm going to do exactly, exactly what you recommend. Hey, professor, it's a pleasure to talk with you. I hope you come back and if you see anything interesting, just let us know. We appreciate your realistic view of the world rather than a partisan view. Thank you very much.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You're listening to the no spa news Weekend Edition.

[Edward Jajirian]

Now on Air Force One. They're whipping around the gulf making deals. But not Reuters, the Associated Press in Bloomberg. Trump wouldn't let them on the press plane.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Why?

[Edward Jajirian]

Because they're hostile to Trump and Trump takes that personally. And if you're hostile to him, you get booted off Air Force One. That's it. Now I know some of you will write me and say well, he gives interviews to ABC and some he does that for a reason. He wants, he wants the confrontation. But believe me, if you criticize Trump, and I do, every time I do, he's on me. Okay? Hey, he takes it all personally. There is a crew that monitors all this. It is called Reporters Without Borders based in Paris, France and it is issued its World Press Freedom Index works. Let's face it, the US economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text BILL to 998-899.

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[Edward Jajirian]

@Mintmobile.Com the United States are 180 countries that the Reporters Without Borders evaluate. We are 57. Romania and Sierra Leone. Africa are ahead of us. Okay, according to this organization, here are the worst countries for press freedom. Eritrea, that's in Africa. North Korea, Communists. China, Communists, Syria, chaos. Iran, theocracy, Afghanistan, Theocracy. Turkmenistan Theocracy Vietnam, communist Nicaragua, Communist Russia, you know, pretty much communist, totalitarian. So those are the worst. All right, so if you're a journalist there and you don't want to be a journalist in Mexico either, can you get a bullet right between the eyes? But United States is, according to this report by Reporters Without Borders, problematic. All right, let's get into that problematic. Joining us from Washington, Clayton Weimers, the executive director of Reporters Without Borders USA. So what's the biggest problem we have here, Mr. Weimers, with the press?

[Clayton Weimers]

Well, thanks for having me, Bill. Really a pleasure to be on, but not a pleasure to be talking about how badly the United States has fallen on the index. RSF started doing this in 2002, at which point the United States was 17th in the world. Not bad. I think as Americans, we would all like that to be higher because we're so proud of our First Amendment. But we've gone in the other direction in recent years, and it's really been the past decade. We've seen a consistent backslide on press freedom in this country across administrations from both parties, Congress changing hands between both parties. So this really isn't tied to one particular political movement. It's really endemic of, I think, Americans starting to take press freedom for granted. I do want to take a step back and talk about how we put together the index. We measure on five categories of indicators, and we've seen a decline on all five of those categories in the United States, and those are economic, political, legislative, security, and social. And across all five of those, we've seen declines in the past decade.

[Edward Jajirian]

All right. Give me a specific example of something that's horrendous in the United States vis a vis the free press. Sure.

[Clayton Weimers]

Well, the biggest indicator that's taken a hit in the United States, and frankly this is true around the world, is the economic indicator. And I think anyone who's been paying attention in recent years, this shouldn't be too surprising because we've seen massive job losses across the news media. We've seen the consolidation of media companies leading to fewer voices in the media landscape, and we're seeing the disappearance of small, independent local news outlets. There's an estimate that on average, two local newspapers shut down in the United States, and that's leading to a situation where more and more Americans simply don't have access to an independent local news outlet that is based in their community.

[Edward Jajirian]

Yeah, but you use the word independent. Very few of these are. Now I have the most successful independent news agency in the world by revenue. I mean, nobody comes close to us. And the reason we are successful is because, I mean, you could say that I lean traditional and that's true. But we're not in business to prop up a party or an ideology. Most of the media in America is. They take sides. And once that began in earnest and it happened, the Iraq War, Bush the Younger, that's when it really fractured when I was doing the O'Reilly Factor on Fox News, okay, Once that happened, Americans lost faith in the media. And then you combine that with the technology where you can go and watch me anytime you want round the clock, anywhere in the world on YouTube. So I think that's absolutely one more time the stayed traditional media that was in the tank for one party or the other, they lost a lot of credibility and a lot of attractiveness.

[Clayton Weimers]

I think that's largely correct analysis. The spread of partisan media, the kind of media that just tells you what you want to hear, has been a net negative for press freedom. And by the way, it's a model that the United States has been exporting to other countries. And we've seen that become a big part of the media landscape in a lot of other countries around.

[Edward Jajirian]

But it was already there in other countries. Come on, the BBC? Are you kidding me? I mean, I lived in England for a year. I was already there. We didn't have to export anything. We can't force anything. Look, when you had the Dominion voting machine scandal, all right, where certain news agencies were basically telling their audience they knew that the stuff wasn't true what they were saying, and they said it anyway, that was it. That was it was it. But it didn't have anything to do with the Constitution. It didn't have anything to do with the folks. It had to do with these big media corporations that are going to say we're going to make money, we don't really care how we do it. Am I wrong?

[Clayton Weimers]

I don't think you're wrong. And I think actually there's an additional element here that has exacerbated the problem since what you identified during the Iraq war, which is the way people get information largely now is through social media platforms and it's delivered by algorithm. And these are systems that are set up to incentivize engagement, not education.

[Edward Jajirian]

Education and propaganda information. And they're set up to disseminate propaganda. Right, but that's algorithm is to get.

[Clayton Weimers]

You to keep clicking.

[Edward Jajirian]

That's a fault of the people, though. They don't. They're not seeking the truth. Many Americans don't want to know the Truth. They want to believe what they want to believe. Right.

[Clayton Weimers]

Well, I don't know if I would go that far. I have a lot of faith that Americans do indeed want to know what's going on in the world.

[Edward Jajirian]

Oh, come on. That's being Clayton. You think people who sit there, watch MSNBC want to know the truth? Or CNN or even Fox? 95% of the people who watch FNC are conservatives. 95%. It was 60 when I was there. Okay. You think they want to know the truth? Come on. They want to hear what they. What they believe. Reinforce. You know that. And that is why the whole media thing landscape is collapsing in this country. Last word.

[Clayton Weimers]

I think that's a big part of it. And it's hard to separate those things out from things like safety, which is what we traditionally think of as press freedom. Because when you have this diminished standing of the news media in the public mind, you're really lowering the bar for harassment and attacks. And that's one of the reasons we see attacks against journalists on the rise in this country, which also contributes to the United States falling on the index in terms of the safety score.

[Edward Jajirian]

Yeah. I'm going to bring you back. I want you to research the attacks on journalists in this country, if you would do me a favor, because I. I'm the most controversial journalist in the country, I think. But it's an argument. I'm up there. In the beginning, when I started, I got attacked. I had people on my property. I have to have security. And even now, if I go to Madison Square Garden or someplace like that, I gotta have a couple of guys with me. So I know what you're talking about, But I want to get deeper into the physicality and what you see as putting us journalists in danger. That's a fascinating topic, and we appreciate your point of view, Mr. Weimers. Thanks for taking the time today. Okay.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Edward Jajirian]

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[Edward Jajirian]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Edward Jajirian]

I wrote a message of the day about this book, Let Them, which has been number one for like five weeks by Mel Robbins. A self help book. And I don't read self help books because I'm beyond help. And that's why I wrote in the message of the day if you want to check it out. But another Mel is a guy that I is desperate. I'm desperate to see what he does. And that's Mel Brooks because he's the funniest guy. The producers in Young Frankenstein. You want laughs. Those two movies, you know, I know Blazing Saddles, that a little crude for me, but boy, the producers zero mustel Gene Wilder and Young Frankenstein. So I got to have laughs. So I was looking at the comedy landscape in the United States. Most comedians are left wingers, but that's changing. There's a guy named Nate Burgaz or something and I love that. He did a pretty good set, clean, not particularly political. Jeff Dunham, the guy with the puppets, fantastic. That guy is so talented. But they're not liberals. And I started this. I'm taking credit for the non liberal comedy surge. So I want to show you on Back it up as we always do. October 7, 2015. Dennis Miller and O'Reilly go now, Trump. I got him a bumper sticker that said my other plane is Air Force One and he'll be the only guy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Who'S going to be president. And slumming it on the plane, Burn Bernie Sanders.

[Edward Jajirian]

I'm sending him a bill for half of what he has because if we're gonna go down this road, he wants way more than half. He should start it then, right?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Give me half your stuff.

[Edward Jajirian]

Bernie will go from there.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And I don't mean any of that bad pomade on what's left of your head here, Biden. Speaking of bad head hair, I got him an 8 by 10 of William.

[Edward Jajirian]

Proxmire to remind them while his plugs are bad, William can be worse. I haven't heard that name in about 30 years. All right, so Miller and O'Reilly, huge hit. Okay? We went on the road and we had a lot of fun and Miller's doing very well out in California. I think he's Semi retired now. So after that, then you had Gutfeld on Fox. He had a very successful program at 10. He's very right wing. You still have the liberal guys, late night. You got Colbert. He's not even a comedian. I don't know what he is, but I don't know what he's doing there. Kimmel? Yeah, he's funny, but he's very left too. Fallon doesn't care about politics. Fallon just wants to be in the band. That's all he wants to do. But if you watch late night TV, it's 90% left wing. Guess and Point of View and all of that. But on the Internet, no. There are more and more and more traditional conservative comedians. One of them is a guy named Jeff Ahearn out of California. Roll a tape.

[Bill O'Reilly]

One book is even by former CNN anchor and Biden sycophant Jack Taper called Original Sin. It details the COVID up of Biden's cognitive decline. Jack, you are one of the people covering it up. Watching you hunt for the killers of honest journalism is a little bit like watching OJ Simpson hunting for the killers of Nicole Brown. Another of the new books claims Biden needed a makeup artist on foreign trips, not for tv, but to liven him up for in person meetings. You know, so he didn't look like he just rolled out of the coffin. Well, if you can put lipstick on a pig, why not rouge on a corpse? It wasn't every meeting. The less important ones they kept in a closed casket. Well, when a puppet needs to last four years, sometimes it's best to keep him in a box. Yet through it all, the mainstream media showed their contempt for viewers intelligence, making excuses for the president and saying he was in great shape. Come on, he needed a Sherpa to get from one side of the stage to the other. Yet many Democrats still use the mainstream media as their only news source. Which begs the question, who is more far gone? Joe Biden or those who for four years were willing to believe that he wasn't?

[Edward Jajirian]

All right, Jeff Ahearn joins us now from Glendale, California outside of la. He's a host of News on the Day on Rumble. See, I don't even know what Rumble is. I don't know. Roku, Rumble, Toku, Tofu, I get. But I know that you're pretty hot, but you've been around 30 years. You've been around a long time doing stand up. Have things changed in your industry?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, yeah, very dramatically. You used to be able to just go out and do jokes and people would laugh and you know, it's pretty easy. You know, you just do your act and then I live in California. So there came a time, you know, probably, I don't know, I'd say seven, eight years ago, where you literally couldn't say anything that was not narrative friendly. And if you did so, the club owners wouldn't book you. You would. You have to play out of state. Other comics would, you know, kick you out of the group, so to speak. And the thing is, a lot of them held the same exact beliefs that you did, but they were afraid to say it. So it's often interesting to me when someone is a leftist comedian, are they really leftist or are they leftist comedians for the work, so to speak?

[Edward Jajirian]

All right, let's get specific though. You've worked with almost everybody. You know them all. You work with Amy Poehler and Tina Fey. Can't get more woke than those two. Can't get more left wing. When I did my gig on Saturday Night Live, I walked in, I thought that Amy Poehler was going to throw up when I showed up. I mean, the look I got, like, what the deuce? Who let him in? And why isn't security dragging him out? Both of those women are about as far left as you can get now when you interacted with them. Do you have any problem?

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Edward Jajirian]

Was that a St. Paul moment? Was that a St. Paul moment, like lightning hit you? Or did that evolve over a period of time?

[Bill O'Reilly]

It. I wish it was like a spontaneous, like, lightning strike. No, it evolved over time where I was just one more thing after another after another after another. I'm like, you know, I don't actually think for myself. I just sit here and. And I just do what everyone tells me I'm supposed to do. If I actually analyze this. And then it got to the point where I'm like, well, now where do I go to get my news sources from? Because it's all basically just leftist dribble, you know?

[Edward Jajirian]

But here's my dilemma here. I know what you're saying, but a lot of these people are very, very smart. Okay? So Kimmel is no idiot, but he is so deeply ingrained. But it helps him because if you are a conservative comic or a traditional comic, your job opportunities in these corporations are far fewer than if you're left. Isn't that correct?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, they're almost non existent. It's the status quo. And I feel like a lot of these comedians, I don't know, I think Kimmel is a leftist, but I feel like they've gone so far forward in that direction, there is no turning back. They got to keep going.

[Edward Jajirian]

No, for them, there is a. But remember Kimmel was on the Man Show.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes.

[Edward Jajirian]

Okay. And he was not a raving lunatic on ideology back then. He was funny and he was way politically incorrect. He was a woke. I mean, my God, the guy. What the guy was doing. But anyway, so the industry in Hollywood has not evolved, has not changed. And I'm taking the three Americans concept out now with Stephen A. Smith and Chris Cuomo and me, which is a really good concept. It's funny, it's sharp, it's this, that. But when we go out to talk to these people in Hollywood, I mean, these are living in a totally different world than the world that you and I live in, Jeff. They're not in our world here.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No. They're in an insulated bubble. And it's kind of. You brought up Newsom, and it was shocking to me when I heard what Newsom speech today and how he's literally pivoting. He's trying to become a Republican. He's trying to.

[Edward Jajirian]

Well, he has to. He wants to be president. But that just shows you who he is. It just shows you who he is now. One of the guys who helped you do what you do, and I should mention that you do five days a week political commentary. That's a lot. And you can find Jeff on Rumble, if you know what Rumble is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's just. Nobody knows what Rumble is.

[Edward Jajirian]

Well, anybody under 50 knows you can find it. Anyway, there was a turning point before Gutfeld. Gutfeld was a big turning point. He made a ton of money for Fox doing the right wing humor. Yeah. But Norm MacDonald, I love Norm. Norm MacDonald was the first one to really say, you know what? This is a bunch of bull. I'm going to play it straight as far as looking at the world the way it is. Am I wrong there?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No. Norm was ahead of his time. And it was just. That's why everyone loved Norman, because he just didn't care. If you told him not to do something, he would do it even harder. No, he was pushed around.

[Edward Jajirian]

But his point of view, and I got to know Norm before he died, was very sharp, but he just rejected the insanity on both sides. Final thing, you see, a guy like Bill Maher was really the only one now at that level on hbo. And HBO is a very left wing organization.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, for sure.

[Edward Jajirian]

He goes to see Trump Bar and says good things about Trump. The vitriol directed at Mar. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Right?

[Bill O'Reilly]

They know. They know they're losing it. And Mar is just a. A flaming firework example of just how bad they're losing. He's even like coming over to our side because he's like, enough, enough. I can't do it anymore. Enough.

[Edward Jajirian]

Well, he's not. Don't think he's coming over. He's not. Because he knows where his paycheck comes from.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's tipping his toe in the water. You know, he's.

[Edward Jajirian]

He's a contrarian. Yeah, he's a contrarian, sure. But he'll stay where HBO wants him to stay. He will.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Edward Jajirian]

I. Jeff.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Edward Jajirian]

When you get something that you feel is ridiculous, and not just on the left, though, but just sir, you let us know. All right, so I'll kind of treat you a little like Miller. I'LL actually treat you better than Miller because I.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right.

[Edward Jajirian]

Made fun of Miller all the time. You let us know and we'll pop you right in. We wish you the best and thank you for helping us out tonight.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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