No Spin News - Weekend Edition - October 18, 2025

Summary

Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis
Weekend Edition – October 18, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Guests: Liz Hirsch Naftali, Tim Graham, Eric Bolling

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Overview

This episode of No Spin News centers on two dominant themes: the human cost and aftermath of the October 7, 2023, Hamas terror attack in Israel, and the shifting political, media, and geopolitical landscape following recent hostage releases and U.S. military action. Bill O’Reilly talks to Liz Hirsch Naftali, aunt of one of the child hostages, about the harrowing events, trauma, and recovery process. The episode also analyzes media behavior during this geopolitical crisis, then pivots to a debate on American foreign policy isolationism, featuring Eric Bolling.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Personal Story: The Abduction and Rescue of Abigail Moore Idan

Featuring Liz Hirsch Naftali (00:07–11:11)

Context:
O’Reilly introduces Liz Hirsch Naftali, aunt of Abigail Moore Idan, whose story is central in Naftali's new book, Saving Abigail.

• Retelling the Attack (02:07–03:06)

  • The terrorist attack on October 7, 2023: Liz recounts how her niece tried to shelter her three children (ages 3, 6, and 9) amidst incoming missiles.

  • Both parents were murdered in front of the children. The 6- and 9-year-olds hid in a closet for 14 hours; Abigail, age 3, was taken hostage and spent 51 days in Gaza.

    “They murdered her in front of the three kids, 3, 6 and 9... He was murdered by the terrorists, fell onto Abigail and a six and nine year old brother and sister ran back to their home and hid in a closet for 14 hours next to their mother's dead body. And Abigail we thought had been killed, but she had actually miraculously survived and then was taken as a hostage.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [02:19–03:06]

• Rescue and Aftermath (03:10–05:26)

  • The older siblings were rescued by Israeli special forces (Navy SEALs).

  • Abigail was eventually released after international negotiations.

    “Abigail was a hostage for 51 days with women and children. ...there was a deal that was done by the Biden administration, brokered by the Qataris and by the Egyptians. ...Then nothing happened until 2025 when President Trump came in and he was able, with Steve Witkoff and his team to get that next deal, which we saw at inauguration time, started to bring home more hostages.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [03:51–04:25]

  • Abigail and her siblings are being cared for by their aunt and uncle in a new community, as their original one remains destroyed.

• Trauma and Healing (05:42–07:47)

  • Long-term trauma: The children, especially Abigail, bear lasting scars.

    “Here she is now a five year old, and she goes to school, but everything that she has is based on a trauma of October 7th that she will carry with her for the rest of her life.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [05:42–06:09]

  • Manifestations: Startle responses to loud noises; memories of deprivation.

    “She knows she was a hostage. She knows that she was starved. She knows she was kept in the dark... when she hears a loud boom and a loud sound, she does go like this.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [06:22–06:49]

    “We had popcorn one day, and she said, I got to eat popcorn one time in Gaza. And you think to yourself, that was her memory. That one day she got to eat popcorn in Gaza.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [06:49–07:16]

• Therapeutic Support and National Trauma (07:47–08:24)

  • All affected children in Israel are assigned therapists; widespread trauma across the nation.

    “All children that were affected by October 7th in Israel, thousands and thousands of children all have therapists, as do my family, the adults.”
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [07:47–07:57]

• On U.S. Campus Protests and Public Perception (08:24–09:48)

  • Naftali addresses her reaction to anti-Israel demonstrations and defacement of posters—emphasizes the importance of rejecting hate and fostering peace.

    "We have to reject hate and that is hateful. What is going on in those campuses is hateful. ...We are coming together, which is saying enough hate and how do we move forward and bring peace to the region?"
    —Liz Hirsch Naftali [09:14–09:48]

• On Persuading Opponents and Truth (10:08–10:51)

  • Naftali chooses dialogue with truth-seekers, regardless of politics or religion, and stresses the universality of the suffering and terror of October 7.

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2. Media Coverage and Bias During the Hostage Crisis

With Tim Graham, News Buster Executive Editor (13:22–20:44)

• ABC’s Mary Bruce Coverage (14:01–15:19)

  • Media’s reluctance to credit Trump for the hostages' release; attempts to create equivalency in coverage.

    “They have to both sides everything. ...Most of these Israelis were captured at a concert or something. A bunch of the Palestinians that were in prison were in prison for violent crime. ...You can't really balance those two out.”
    —Tim Graham [14:01–15:09]

• Reporting Tone on a ‘Good News Day’ (15:19–16:11)

  • Graham criticizes attempts to “rain on the parade” during hostages’ homecoming.

    "It's a good news day. ...So to try to rain on that parade, it's not the right day."
    —Tim Graham [15:44–16:11]

• CNN’s Christiane Amanpour Controversy (16:11–18:28)

  • Amanpour made on-air comments suggesting Israeli hostages might have been treated better than Gazan civilians, for which she later apologized.

    “She actually said that the Israeli hostages were probably treated better than the average Gazan. Again, tortured, starved, many of them ended up dead. Just astonishing.”
    —Tim Graham [17:23–17:47]

• O’Reilly’s Media Analysis (19:13–20:44)

  • O’Reilly predicts media attacks on Trump will soon resume. Discussion of persistent negative coverage and failing public trust.

    “We have seen, you know, over 10 years, this whole pattern of network news coverage of Trump is usually 89, 90, 91, 92% negative all the time. ...The media obviously has declined in a unbelievable way. I've been in the business 50 years and this is the end of it.”
    —Bill O’Reilly [19:49–20:44]

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3. GOP Isolationism and U.S. Foreign Policy

With Eric Bolling (24:24–37:23)

• Debate on Striking Iran (24:49–28:16)

  • O’Reilly and Bolling discuss Republican division over Trump’s authorized airstrikes against Iran.

  • Bolling explains initial opposition due to risk to American pilots; wanted Israel to handle strikes independently.

  • After witnessing the precision of the strike and its effects, Bolling supports it "if it goes no further."

    “Now I look back at so far, we're what, 36 hours out and it looks like a surgical strike. ...If it goes no further, Bill, I'm absolutely for it...”
    —Eric Bolling [27:05–27:21]

• Isolationism in the Ukraine and Taiwan Context (28:16–30:57)

  • Bolling rejects U.S. funding for Ukraine, focusing on American self-sufficiency (the “America First” argument), especially regarding semiconductor manufacturing.

  • O'Reilly counters with concerns about emboldening Russia and China, warning of global destabilization.

    “If Putin's allowed to take over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan. That's what will happen 100%.”
    —Bill O’Reilly [29:40–29:59]

• Debating the Limitations of Isolationism (30:57–36:27)

  • O’Reilly strongly refutes isolationism, invoking history and arguing that worldwide chaos would result from American withdrawal.

    “Isolationism has never worked, particularly in a society now that's intertwined planet wise.”
    —Bill O’Reilly [29:59–30:57]

  • Bolling clarifies he’s “anti-war, America First,” not strictly an isolationist.

• GOP/MAGA Movement Split (33:09–34:38)

  • Discussion on internal divisions—up to half of “MAGA” (Trump’s Republican base) split over foreign military action.

    “I think there's a split in MAGA...maybe 60-40 in favor of what Trump did, maybe 70-30 in favor.”
    —Eric Bolling [33:56–34:07]

• Long-Term Consequences and the Need for Strong Leadership (36:02–37:23)

  • Both agree on the necessity of strong leadership in the face of global threats and contesting “evil” figures like Putin.

    “...when you see how psychotic that man is that we need a strong leader and there have been accusations that Trump is too soft about Putin. ...So we're never going to have a peaceful world.”
    —Bill O'Reilly [35:43–36:02]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the horror faced by Abigail and her siblings:

  “She knows she was a hostage. She knows that she was starved. She knows she was kept in the dark.”
  —Liz Hirsch Naftali [06:22]

• On public division and hate:

  “We have to reject hate and that is hateful...We are coming together, which is saying enough hate and how do we move forward and bring peace to the region?”
  —Liz Hirsch Naftali [09:14–09:48]

• On media bias during crisis:

  “Most of these Israelis were captured at a concert or something. A bunch of the Palestinians that were in prison were in prison for violent crime. ...You can't really balance those two out.”
  —Tim Graham [14:01–15:09]

• On U.S. media decline:

  “The media obviously has declined in a unbelievable way. I've been in the business 50 years and this is the end of it. I think it's the end of network and cable news.”
  —Bill O’Reilly [20:29–20:44]

• Isolationism vs Global Engagement:

  “If Putin's allowed to take over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan. That's what will happen 100%.”
  —Bill O’Reilly [29:40–29:59]

  “I'm a anti war America first human being.”
  —Eric Bolling [31:06]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Liz Hirsch Naftali recounts October 7 attack: [02:19–03:06]
• Rescue and hostage release details: [03:51–04:25]
• Discussion of trauma and healing process: [06:09–07:47]
• On campus protests and hate: [08:24–09:48]
• Media coverage of hostage release: [14:01–16:11]
• CNN’s Amanpour remarks and apology: [16:11–18:28]
• Media and Trump relationship: [19:49–20:44]
• Debate over U.S. airstrike on Iran: [24:49–28:16]
• GOP divide over foreign policy: [33:09–34:38]
• Discussion of strong leadership against global threats: [35:43–37:23]

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Episode Takeaways

• The aftermath of the Hamas attack remains deeply traumatic on both an individual (Abigail’s story) and societal level.
• The complexity of negotiating hostage releases is compounded by international politics, media narratives, and changing U.S. presidencies.
• Widespread distrust in mainstream media persists, with O’Reilly and guests critiquing the media’s tendency toward bias and false equivalence.
• There is a growing and vocal divide within the American right, especially regarding isolationism vs global interventionism, as highlighted in the heated debate between O’Reilly and Bolling.

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For those seeking an unfiltered examination of the raw human cost of terrorism, the intricacies of hostage diplomacy, and the heated debates shaping U.S. foreign policy, this episode offers compelling firsthand accounts and trenchant media analysis, all in O’Reilly’s signature, uncompromising style.

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

Welcome to the no Spin News Weekend Edition.

All right, let's do a personal story here. So as I mentioned, confronting evil. I got the opening chapter inside the Hamas raid of horror on what they did on that day. All right, October 7, 2020, three children were murdered and taken hostage by these savages. All right, one of the kids was Abigail Moore Idan. Three years old. Three years old. Taken by Hamas. Joining us now from New York City is Liz Hirsch Naftali. She is the aunt of little Apple Kale and she's written a book. And you, I recommend this book very highly to you. Saving Abigail, the true story of the abduction and rescue of a three year old hostage. So this must be a joyous day for you, Ms. Nafali. Correct.

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Listen, it's, it's a day of great joy and hope and heartbreak. I mean, it's been two years and what we're seeing are young men, sons and fathers coming home. And there is so, so much beauty in that. But we also know that as you said earlier, there's still 26 others that aren't coming home alive and they need to come home and be buried. But so it's one of those mixes of both. Like the most amazing. What President Trump and his team was able to accomplish was to bring these people free. But there are still people that need to come home and be buried.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Rest assured, they will be. They will be. By this time tomorrow, I expect that all of that will be done. Now, let's get to your niece now and correct me if I'm wrong, because I had to read your book very quickly. So it's three kids in a home, two parents, right?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Hamas savages kick the door in and kill the parents and kidnapped the three kids. Pretty much that's what happened, right?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Actually, just a little change that they came in while my niece was putting the three kids in a safe room because missiles were flying and they murdered her in front of the three kids, 3, 6 and 9. And they ran outside and their father was a journalist and he had taken photos and he was running back because he had done this before. But he realized this morning, October 7, 2023, was a terror attack and he picked up Abigail and ran. The four of them were running and he was murdered by the terrorists, fell onto Abigail and a six and nine year old brother and sister ran back to their home and hid in a closet for 14 hours next to their mother's dead body. And Abigail we thought had been killed, but she had actually miraculously survived and then was taken as a Hostage with another family into Gaza for 51 days.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, what happened to the kids who went into the safe room?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

The kids in the closet? They were rescued by what we would consider Navy SEALs after 14 hours, while there was still a war going on in their community on October 7th.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So were these Israeli forces that rescued him?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so they're safe, but little Abigail, three years old again, is gone, kidnapped out of there, and the parents are dead, killed in front of their own offspring. It's just. It's just talk about confronting evil. I mean, my God. Okay, so Abigail gets out. Tell our audience how that happened.

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

So Abigail was a hostage for 51 days with women and children. They were released at the end of November. There was a deal that was done by the Biden administration, brokered by the Qataris and by the Egyptians. And when we saw Abigail on the third day of this release, I knew that she was safe. But a few days later, it broke down. And then Nothing happened until 2025 when President Trump came in and he was able, with Steve Witkoff and his team to get that next deal, which we saw at inauguration time, started to bring home more hostages.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right, that was a deal that I mentioned. That deal began, just so you know. I don't even know if you know this, about three weeks after Trump was elected president, and it took about a month, five weeks for it to come to fruition. So Abigail is released, she comes home to Israel. Who takes care of her?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

So, Bill, like when you say she comes home, like her house was destroyed, this neighborhood, this community, destroyed by Hamas terrorists. So she does come back to my niece who did survive across this community on October 7th, she and her husband and their three kids miraculously survived. And she and her siblings went and lived and now live with them. And they live in a different part of the country because where they live, they can't go. And Abigail is being taken care of beautifully by her aunt and uncle, but without her parents.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so the three children are reunited. An aunt and an uncle are caring for them. Now, you would say that maybe this is. They live happily ever after, but they can't possibly live happily ever after, can they? After all they've seen and been through?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

No. And you know, when you tell people this story, and I've kept telling the story for now almost two years of what happened, it really, it touches people because a three year old child was taken as a hostage after witnessing her parents murder. And here she is now a five year old, and she goes to school, but everything that she has is, is Based on a trauma of October 7th that she will carry with her for the rest of her life.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Does she have manifestations of that? I know you're in very close touch with the family. Is it nightmares or is there anything about what she went through that is demonstrative today?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Listen, she knows she was a hostage. She knows that she was starved. She knows she was kept in the dark. She knows that there was no food and no hygiene. But she also, when she hears a loud boom and a loud sound, she does go like this. Because she was a hostage in a building that for 51 days, the area was being bombarded by the Israeli Defense Force as they were trying to, you know, bring home hostages. This child was suffering from it. So there are things like that, but, you know, she's a child, and what we are letting is for the things to come out from her naturally and to just give her the love. And what I've learned is, I'll just tell you, we had popcorn one day, and she said, I got to eat popcorn one time in Gaza. And you think to yourself, that was her memory. That one day she got to eat popcorn in Gaza. And so when you know that, you know that she remembers everything.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Oh, absolutely. Never forget it. The older children, do they have any kind of flashbacks that are consistent?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

You know, they're very closed at this point. They talk with their aunt and uncle who are their parents, but it's really. We're letting it come out naturally.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I got it. I got it. So they're not any child psychiatry or anything like that. They're just kind of let them be kids, and then when it comes out, you'll deal with it. Correct?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Right. But just keep in mind, all children that were affected by October 7th in Israel, thousands and thousands of children all have therapists, as do my family, the adults.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They were assigned by the government, by.

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

The government and by. It's been done both privately and with the government. But literally everybody, Israelis are traumatized. You know, we talk about this great day, and we talk about everything. But I know for our family, until Abigail was released, we could not even begin to move forward. And I know for these families, they can just start to move forward with their loved ones home. But it's a nation that is waiting to move forward emotionally.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you live in New York City. I'm right outside the city boundary. And then you see what happens at Columbia and about the demonstrations and the far left. People hate Israel. Always have. How do you process that?

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Look, since the beginning, when Abigail was taken. And I like to And I really say stolen. She was stolen on October 7 as an orphan. And people then said to me, when people were tearing down the posters and defacing a little child, I pitied them. I thought, how, how sad that that is where people are and so hateful. And I, for two years, even when Abigail was taken, I was fighting for an end to the fighting. But, but it started with bringing back all of our hostages that were stolen. And Abigail was one of those, a three year old child. So one of the things that I will tell you is I believe, and President Trump has said this and Steve Witkoff has said it, is that we have to reject hate and that is hateful. What is going on in those campuses is hateful. And I look at myself and so many hostage families as looking how do we actually bring a peace which President Trump is dedicated to, that makes it safe for kids on both sides? So the irony of this moment, Bill, is that I believe that the work that we are doing and we can be different politically, but we are coming together, which is saying enough hate and how do we move forward and bring peace to the region?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, I don't know if you're going to get through to the real fanatical Mandani wing. I mean, that must be painful for you as well. See that a guy might be elected the mayor of the city in which you live who can't stand Israel and you'll never convert him no matter what you do.

[Liz Hirsch Naftali]

Look, I've learned in this process, I'm going to talk to people who want to know the truth and want to work together. And I will say this, that throughout my travels in the States, in New York and the world, there are truly a lot of really good people. And I believe they are the majority and the minority of people that you've discussed that are very loud and very vocal. I can't convince them to be on the side of truth and justice. So I'm going to talk to people who could be very different politically, very different nationally or religiously, but that want to know the truth and accept that on October 7th there was a terror attack in Israel and it affected Jews, Christians and Muslims. Those people didn't care. They just wanted to kill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, that is the truth. So, Liz, we appreciate it very much. Again, the book is, is Saving Abigail the true story of the abduction and rescue of a three year old hostage. And you really want to know the truth is Liz just said you read this book and we wish you the best, Liz, if we can ever be of any help to the family at all, you let us know. Okay? Thanks for helping us out tonight. Ever heard of Gold Belly? It's an amazing sight that delivers the best of America's iconic foods right to your door anywhere in the usa. Craving New York's famous cheesecake from juniors or the legendary Franklin barbecue from Texas, Gold Belly delivers. Don't miss the world famous stone crab from Joe's in Miami or meals from chefs like Ina Garten and more. The shipping very easy and the food quality is outstanding. I know I'll be using Gold Belly for my next craving. So if you are looking for that perfect gift or want to impress your friends and family with an epic meal, as the kids might say, the next time you host, go to goldbelly.com get 20% off your first order with promo code BILL. That's goldbelly.com code BILL code 20% off your first order. Ever heard of Gold Belly? It's an amazing site that delivers the best of America's iconic foods right to your door anywhere in the usa. Craving New York's famous cheesecake from juniors or the legendary Franklin barbecue from Texas, Gold Belly delivers. Don't miss the world famous stone crab from Joe's in Miami or meals from chefs like Ina Garten and more. The shipping very easy and the food quality is outstanding. I know I'll be using Gold Belly for my next craving. So if you are looking for that perfect gift or want to impress your friends and family with an epic meal, as the kids might say, the next time you host, go to goldbelly.com get 20% off your first order with promo code Bill. That's goldbelly.com code Bill. 20% off your first order.

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I was bringing a guy who is monitoring the media. I didn't have a lot of time to do that last night because I'm unbelievably busy. Tim Graham is the executive editor of News Buster. He's a friend of this program and I want to let everybody know that that Tim has really helped us out. So I got a sheet in front of me. I want to talk about this Mary Bruce, who is a chief White House correspondent for ABC News. I did not see this, but apparently she was doing what while reporting on the Gaza situation?

[Tim Graham]

Well, she can't give credit to Trump. Mary Bruce was well known to us for somebody when Joe Biden was president. She was always just glorifying everything that he did. Now they have to both sides. Everything. You know this. Yesterday, most of the networks. This was a day when you saw so much touching video of reunions of these hostage families. And so obviously, this is something Donald Trump caused. So this was about the best press day Trump has had. But somewhere in there, somebody's gotta not let him get all the credit. Sometimes they tried to balance it out and said, now let's go to the Palestinians and their happy reunions. Well, but to some degree, there is a difference between the two sides, right. Is that most of these Israelis were captured at a concert or something. A bunch of the Palestinians that were in prison were in prison for violent crime. So I think you can't really balance those two out.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, and you think that Ms. Bruce tried to do that? Apparently the anchor, Muir, had to interrupt her a couple of times and bring her back down to earth.

[Tim Graham]

Yeah, and that's really interesting because again, usually you don't correct your reporter. You know, and I think it's, again, I think a day like this is a day when you want to stay positive. You could sit here and say, well, we're not sure that this ceasefire will hold. You can be pessimistic about whether Hamas is going to actually disarm.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But on.

[Tim Graham]

A day like this, when people have come out after more than two years in a horrible hostage situation, whether we're tortured or starved or, you know, were kept in tunnels, could, you know, hadn't seen the sunlight, this is just a. It's a good news day. It's a good news day. So to try to rain on that parade, it's not the right day.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. But they didn't do it overtly. Even Ms. Bruce, to be fair to her, said that Trump's role was critical in this and whatever. Christian Amanpour, CNN had to apologize. Now, we all know if, you know this woman's history around a long time, she very pro Arab. She's a Persian herself. But she, she's very. I want to be fair here. Skeptical of Israel, let's put it that way. So what does she.

[Tim Graham]

Very nice.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Apologize for? Yeah, I'm trying to be fair, Tim. You know.

[Tim Graham]

Well, you know, she. She grew up the first 11 years of her life in Tehran, and then they moved to England and then later they came to the United States. She's been at CNN for more than 40 years and has been a foreign correspondent for a large chunk of that before she came sort of this, the CNN host. Yes, we, we have chronicled numerous times and especially since October 7, 2023, where she's very solidly come down on the Palestinian side. Of things. And this was certainly true yesterday, where she was so out of tune with the way the day was going that she actually said that the Israeli hostages were probably treated better than the average Gazan. Again, tortured, starved, many of them ended up dead. Just astonishing.

[Bill O'Reilly]

As I reported yesterday, CNN ordered their talent, their air talent, not to bash Trump on this story. That was a direct order given by Robert Thompson, who's in charge of cnn. So Amanpour kind of got around that by not mentioning Trump, but trying to make a comparison, as you just said, an equivalency between how the Gazan civilians are treated with the heavy hand of Israel, of course, as opposed to how the hostages who were kidnapped are treated. But she did apologize and that's because she wants a paycheck, right?

[Tim Graham]

Yeah, it's a little bit like if we can imagine, you remember, some of us remember 1973, 74, when the Vietnamese, the American POWs came home from Vietnam and you imagine some anchorman saying, well, I'm sure our American POWs were treated nicer than the average Vietnamese. I don't think that would have been received well. And that it was really just a terrible and tone deaf thing to say. She was asked about just the situation on the ground that sadly the Western journalists weren't given enough access to go into Gaza and bash Israel. Like they didn't bash Israel when they didn't have perfect access.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, look, CNN has lost most of its audience and credibility because of its stance, hating Trump and propping up the progressive movement. There's no doubt that that has happened. Let's look to the future. So my analysis is this ceasefire between the media and Trump is going to be less than maybe 36 hours and then we'll be back to ISIS, the Gestapo and the John Legend crew will then get back to what they do every day. You disagree with that?

[Tim Graham]

No, I think that their standard mode of operation is, yes, Trump is evil and anybody trying to, you know, enforce the immigration laws as evil. It's very strange that law enforcement is like an evil force, but that is where they go. Now, the only way they don't do that domestic stuff again is if some of these Israel, the ceasefire doesn't go as well as we would hope. And in that case, then they might say, well, for Trump, this is all coming apart. I mean, we have seen, you know, over 10 years, this whole pattern of network news coverage of Trump is usually 89, 90, 91, 92% negative all the time. It was negative coverage of Trump on the networks after he was shot. So we can always predict that they're going to return to form and be negative about Trump.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I agree. I think that the public though, knows what the game is now and doesn't have any effect on anything other than the real dumb people who live in, you know, a bubble world and they hear things on social media that get picked up. But the majority of American voters, they know what the game is and they've made their decision. And the media obviously has declined in a unbelievable way. I've been in the business 50 years and this is the end of it. I think it's the end of network and cable news. Just a matter of who survives the longest. There's no growth any place, nobody growing. And it's predictable, it's dull and it's not fair. One more question. Trump did congratulate the media on a trip back to the United States and said you were fair and this and that. I thought that was a pretty effective statement, but I didn't see it much. I didn't see it around a lot. Lets face it, the US Economy is under stress, national debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau, you can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998-899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text BILL to 998/899.

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[Tim Graham]

With the average people in their audience who they expect to be anti Trump, they don't want to show a clip of Trump saying you were pro Trump today or you were fair to Trump today. They don't want the media to be fair to Trump. They want the media to wage war on Trump. That's what they expect. And as you suggest, that's one of the reasons why polls show that people don't see the media as fair and balanced or as accurate because they can understand that these people have a severe animus against the president.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And it's going to get worse. There's going to be vengeance now because the president is succeeding. And when you succeed, and I'm the poster boy for this, they come at you as hard as they can come at you because they're so angry about that success. Hey, Tim, thanks very much. I really appreciate it.

Here's a gem from the no Spin News vault.

Now, the opposition to Trump's Iranian decision didn't always come from the left. There were some conservative people who didn't like it, and they're isolationist people. One of them is Eric Bolling. I think. I think it. Because I can't quite make out Bolling's point of view. Roll a tape.

[Eric Bolling]

Let's be honest. So MAGA kind of has always believed that Trump was not going to be involved in foreign wars. This is a bit of a. Well, a certain faction of MAGA believes that this is, this is a tough pill to swallow, that we're actually bombing another country, especially because could it lead to World War Three?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. So joining us now is the effervescent Eric Bolling from West Palm beach, where he's tanned, locked and loaded.

[Eric Bolling]

He does program and never banal for the year.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And thank God, thank God for that. He does a program bowling on Real America's Voice. So, Bolling, are you for or against the bombing? Just yes or no.

[Eric Bolling]

Yes, I'm for or against the bombing. Let me explain, if I may. I was against the bombing because I hate the idea of an American pilot in harm's way. I don't.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you. At first, at first you were against it. And I.

[Eric Bolling]

And yeah, and further explain that I was against it because we had complete. Or not we. I'm sorry, I correct myself because Trump did the same thing. Prior to the bombing, Israel had complete control of the airspace over Tehran, over the whole country of Iran. They were getting things done. I loved what they were doing. They were relentless. People were saying, okay, you know, you made your point in Israel. No, no, no, they were going to finish the job. Now, did they have the 200 mile into the side of the mountain, bunker busters? They didn't at the time. And then the my side or my brain, this side of my brain would say, okay, we'll sell it to him. Sell Israel the bunker buster bomb. Sell them in the mop mop, Train a pilot. I don't care if it takes a month. Train the pilot how to fly it. How's this? Get a dual citizen Israeli American pilot to fly it over, Drop the bomb. We wouldn't have our fingerprints on none.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Of that, none of that would ever happen in any way at all. Because we are the only people in the world that have that technology. We're going to hand it off to Israel. Okay? And there's not going to be any pilots that are not under under the supervision of the Pentagon. Never, ever going to happen. Now that the bombing, now that the bombing has happened.

[Eric Bolling]

Yes. Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. Yes.

[Eric Bolling]

Now I look back at so far, we're what, 36 hours out and it looks like a surgical strike. That was precision. It was as Pete Hegseth tells us, it obliterated the, the nuclear capability.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We all know that. Are you for it or against it now?

[Eric Bolling]

I, I, I, if it goes no further, Bill, I'm absolutely for it and I think it's going to go no further because you're evolved Air Force One, Marine One, in saying Israel and Iran, they don't know what the f they're doing. Use the word. And I think he told the world that was one and done. And we're, we're done. And it was, it was, it was magical, it was almost spiritual. I think back to the day Trump was shot in the ear in Butler, Pennsylvania. Bill, just bear with me one second. One inch either way. Now I'm not just saying one inch towards his head would have killed the would be next president, but one inch away from his ear and it wouldn't. Yes, it would have been an assassination attempt. It wouldn't have the massive implications it does, but those of if you believe in God, if you believe in a higher power, if you believe in the spirit, whatever you believe in, there's a reason he got hit in the air and not taken out and not missed him completely. And this may be the reason because what he did in lest 36 hours made the world a safer place.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so now you've evolved on that, but you're still essentially an isolationist and you don't support us funding Zelensky in Ukraine. Or am I wrong on that?

[Eric Bolling]

No, you're 100% right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You don't want any money going to Ukraine, right? Correct. Okay, so if we pull out back and Putin takes the whole country, which is what he wants to do, then, you know, China goes to Taiwan, takes that. Is that okay with you?

[Eric Bolling]

I mean, is it okay? I think a smart president would beef up our chip capacity, chip producing capacity, United States, because frankly, Taiwan, the best interest to us in Taiwan is their ability to produce Silicon Valley type chips. If we can up our our game with Nvidia and the other chip makers, even Taiwan Semiconductor, for that matter, I think it's none of our business.

[Bill O'Reilly]

If China, so you let, you let Taiwan go, you let Ukraine go, why would they stop then? Why wouldn't Putin then go to Moldova? Why wouldn't China then move into South Korea and help the nut in North Korea destabilize that? So in isolation is basically saying, look.

[Eric Bolling]

No, that, that's, that's, no, you don't know may have have eyes on the prize with further, you know, other countries in Europe.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There's no guarantee of anything other than my eyewitness report when I was in China. And I can tell you the 100% certainty if Putin's allowed to take over Ukraine, then China will march into Taiwan. That's what will happen 100%. So if you're okay with that, how.

[Eric Bolling]

Will that affect you?

[Bill O'Reilly]

BILL o'reilly how it will affect is it causes chaos in the world. It destabilizes the entire world. When you have two chaotic, when you have two world, hey, when you have two totalitarian regimes expanding and taking over, foreign countries invading and taking over, you do not have a safe world. You cannot hide in Idaho and worldwide economy will just be battered. And you think it's bad now, the conflicts. Where do you see the chaos that those totalitarian nations will cause if not restrained? And this is history bowling. And you can't argue history with me because I'll, you know, I'll dissolve you into pudding. But it's history, all right. Isolationism has never worked, particularly in a society now that's intertwined planet wise.

[Eric Bolling]

I don't necessarily think I'm a total isolationist. I'm a anti war America first human being.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But America's not going to be first. China will be first.

[Eric Bolling]

We still are part of NATO. And I've never said remove.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But you don't want military action.

[Eric Bolling]

Well, if you really don't want Putin to take Ukraine, put him in NATO. And then you've opened yourself a whole.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Putin's not going to go into NATO.

[Eric Bolling]

Put Ukraine in NATO, put Ukraine in NATO, allow Ukraine to enter NATO.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That would give a justification if you allowed Ukraine into NATO. That would heighten Putin's justification to the Russian people, to the only people that can stop them at this point. All right, so now you have, you're an isolationist. Bannon is Steve Bannon. Tucker Carlson is.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

How big do you think that constituency is within the Republican Party, the isolationist movement? How big is it?

[Eric Bolling]

You know, I think it was huge until Trump decided to go forth with this. Like, I think a lot of, we, many of us, I call Steve Bannon the true north of the original Gangster MAGA crew. He was the original don of that. And, and I think until Trump actually went forward in, in Iran with a bombing that, that split people. Then they put people like Tucker, I think Tucker was more, more the hardliner against it. And Steve and, and the Hannity and Mark Levin were very much, very much pushing for Trump to go ahead and.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, where are we now? Now where are we in your opinion?

[Eric Bolling]

I think there's a, there's a, there's a split in MAGA that needs to be 50, 50 split, maybe 60, 40 in favor of what Trump did, maybe 70, 30 in favor of.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you don't know. All right, because I don't know either. I mean, I suspect that most Republicans support Trump in this action now if it goes south and all of these Other things happen, unintended consequences, which Iran is too weak to really make anything happen but say something crazy did happen. Then you would get more people, more would come over to the isolationist movement. All right, last word.

[Eric Bolling]

To do anything aggressively. They're not too weak to, you know, to fortify and finance their sleeper cells and their, their Houthis and their sleeper.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Cells and always going to happen attack.

[Eric Bolling]

Us internally on a smaller basis.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Which, but then that's not because of the bombing. They're already here. They just made a big bus. They just made a big bus in Connecticut.

[Eric Bolling]

These people were of the 12 of the 2 million Iranians who are in this country caught 11. OK.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Which is great. Biden let them all in.

[Eric Bolling]

Want ice around.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Biden let them all in. So they're already here. They don't need an excuse. Okay. They're here and they're not here to get a job at 7:11. Last question for you. The final word on this isn't going to be until Trump leaves office. Okay. Because it's not like Iran. They may go away. The army may overthrow them all. Let's hope. But Putin, he's a psychotic. I mean, you're reading my book now. I know Confronting Evil and when you see how psychotic that man is that we need a strong leader and there have been accusations that Trump is too soft about Putin. There have been accusations he's too soft on him. So we're never going to have a peaceful world. Last word.

[Eric Bolling]

I 100% agree. By the way, your book is phenomenal. This is the best book I've written. I just started, I received it yesterday, started paging through it last night, started reading it. So I want to just have a little bit of a, an idea what is about. It's gripping. It's really, it's your best work so far with the maybe the exception of you throwing JP Morgan and Rockefeller the mix with the evil, with the evil people.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They are evil.

[Eric Bolling]

But we'll get back. We could talk about that another time. But it was fascinating how you take people from this man won't be alive at the end of the day or tomorrow. And then you explain why and then you go back to the roots of the evil that's causing so much of evil in the world. It's fantastic book. Where are we going from here? I, I would say MAGA needs to, needs to get, get their self together again. Figure it out. And again, hopefully it's done. Hopefully we're finished. Hopefully.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Absolutely nobody wants to give, give nukes.

[Eric Bolling]

To Iran or hopefully China doesn't give nukes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They're not going to give nukes, may escalate it.

[Eric Bolling]

And that would, that would be bad. But I think right now Donald Trump has proven that to the world that. You don't dispute Donald Trump? I dispute his ideas on tariffs. And so far I'm wrong. I didn't think we should attack Iran as of, you know, this day, right now, today.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right.

[Eric Bolling]

Probably wrong.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We won't know to the end of.

[Eric Bolling]

The and I hope I'm wrong forever.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. I'm going to do tariffs now. We won't know until the end of the year. Bowling. Thanks very much, everybody. Check out bowling. All right. On Real America's Voice. And we'll talk again soon. Thanks, Eric.

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