No Spin News - Weekend Edition - October 4, 2025

Summary

Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Weekend Edition — October 4, 2025

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Episode Overview

This Weekend Edition features Bill O'Reilly engaging with a range of guests on subjects including Gold Star families and national remembrance, Eric Trump’s reflections on family and American politics, a moving discussion of autism and resilience with journalist Leland Vittert, and a sobering examination of the ongoing war on drugs with former DEA agent Chris Feistel. The tone is direct, serious, and sometimes conversational, focusing on facts and guest perspectives while maintaining O’Reilly’s signature style.

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Gold Star Families & National Remembrance

Guest: George Lutz, Gold Star father, author of Tragedy to Tribute
Segment Start: [00:53]

Key Points & Insights

• Context: Pete Hegseth, now the U.S. Secretary of Defense, is meeting with the Gold Star Advisory Council (families of fallen service members), a breakthrough as the first such meeting (O’Reilly: [00:53]).

• The Problem of Apathy:
  George Lutz shares the experience of losing his son Tony in Iraq and describes widespread public indifference toward military loss:

  "I realized that as I went out... most people didn’t care. They didn’t understand what it meant to have this military loss... these family members were all wondering, hey, did anybody care? Does anybody remember?"
  — George Lutz [02:44]

• Campaign for a National Remembrance Symbol:
  Lutz’s mission: a national emblem (the Honor and Remember flag) to universally recognize military sacrifice—an effort running 17 years ([05:46]).

• POW/MIA Flag Parallel:
  O’Reilly connects Lutz’s efforts to the established POW/MIA flag and suggests the Honor and Remember flag could similarly fly under the U.S. flag. Lutz agrees, envisioning it as a "beacon for all Americans" ([06:32]).

• Legislation and Progress:

  • Bill HR 1363 would make the Honor and Remember flag a national remembrance symbol.
  • 29 states have legislated its adoption, but Lutz stresses the need for federal recognition ([07:59]).

• Call to Action:
  O’Reilly urges listeners to support the flag and pending legislation, and pledges to help publicize the cause ([08:27]).

Notable Quotes

"The best gift that I could give these Gold Star Families was to create a symbol, a national emblem by which we all could show our appreciation."
— George Lutz [03:42]

"When we say the words, 'You will not be forgotten,' that they really mean it."
— George Lutz [08:12]

"It is needed in this country. There's no doubt about it. And certainly your son Tony died a hero."
— Bill O’Reilly [09:00]

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Eric Trump on Family, Politics, and 'Under Siege'

Guest: Eric Trump, author of Under Siege: My Family’s Fight to Save Our Nation
Segment Start: [12:45]

Key Points & Insights

• Donald Trump’s Leadership Style:
  Eric describes his father’s openness to opinions “from the electrician to the head of the company” and ultimately choosing the best ideas ([12:45]).

• Family Dynamics and Politics:
  O’Reilly asks how much Trump listens to his children and if Eric ever disagrees with his father. Eric responds humorously and supportively:

  "I love the idea of taking over Canada. I also like the idea of taking Greenland."
  — Eric Trump [14:51]
  (The conversation touches on the pressures of humor in politics and media perception.)

• Personal Cost of Political Life:
  Eric discusses intense legal and political scrutiny:

  "I became the most subpoenaed person in American history. I had 112 subpoenas."
  — Eric Trump [18:29]
  He details the financial and emotional toll, describing $400 million in legal fees and the broader assault on the Trump family ([20:13]).

• Motivation and Retiring from Politics:
  Both Eric and Don Jr. distanced themselves from active politics, while Ivanka “wants to be a mom” after years in Washington ([21:07]).

• Media Reception:
  Despite political opposition, Eric’s book shot to #1 on Amazon. Network invitations have been mixed, with CNN surprisingly reaching out ([21:59]). He critiques the mainstream media as partisan and praises independent voices ([22:44]).

Memorable Moments

"They impeached my father twice. They raided our home. They weaponized the DOJ, they weaponized the FBI... I was getting a subpoena every single day."
— Eric Trump [18:41]

"Your book... deserves to hurt a lot of feelings because a lot of feelings deserve to be hurt on that side."
— Eric Trump [22:46]

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Born Lucky: Autism, Hope, and Family

Guest: Leland Vittert, journalist and author of Born Lucky
Segment Start: [26:25]

Key Points & Insights

• A Father’s Unconventional Heroism:
  Vittert credits his father with radical devotion—quitting his job to support Leland through childhood bullying and social obstacles after an autism diagnosis ([30:07]).

• Diagnosis and Challenges:
  Vittert had a wide IQ split, facing both academic strengths and deep learning difficulties. His father refused accommodations, believing adaptation was key to future success ([29:09]).

  "If I adapt you to the world, you’re not going to use this as a crutch. If you use it as a crutch in school, you'll want to use it as a crutch later in life."
  — Leland Vittert, recounting his father's philosophy [29:40]

• Resilience and Message of Hope:
  Born Lucky is ultimately a story meant to offer hope to families facing adversity with disabled children ([31:30]).

Notable Quotes

"My dad said, 'I have to adapt you to the world. I can’t adapt the world to you.'"
— Leland Vittert [29:09]

"Anybody with a child who’s having difficulty will get hope from reading this book. And that is very, very rare."
— Bill O’Reilly [31:30]

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The War on Drugs: Corruption, Cartels, and U.S. Policy

Guest: Chris Feistel, former DEA agent, co-author of After Escobar
Segment Start: [34:13]

Key Points & Insights

• Current Administration Tactics:
  O’Reilly details the Trump administration’s aggressive naval operations against drug shipments and hints at increasing U.S. military involvement against cartels in Mexico and beyond ([32:29]).

• Who's the Biggest Threat?: Feistel states that Mexican cartels, now officially designated terrorist organizations, are the top danger to American security ([36:23]).

• Corruption at Heart:
  Corruption within the Mexican government allows cartels to operate “with impunity” ([37:05]).

• Colombia and Venezuela:
  Both have lost U.S. certification for cooperation against drug crime, with Venezuela described as a “narco state.” Feistel explains,

  “The Cartel of the Suns... involves high-level Venezuelan military and government officials... complicit in [drug trafficking].”
  — Chris Feistel [39:11]

• Prosecution & Law Enforcement:
  Strong evidence is required for indictments, and U.S. courts are the only real place cartel heads can be tried effectively, due to local corruption and intimidation ([39:39]–[41:22]).

• Bleak Outlook for Victory:
  O’Reilly asserts the drug war can’t be won so long as demand remains sky-high in the U.S., citing cultural permissiveness and weak enforcement as root causes ([42:16]–[43:21]). Feistel agrees:

  "It’s the law of supply and demand. The more demand in the U.S., the more supply follows."
  — Chris Feistel [42:16]

• Societal Factors:
  Lax prosecution (“progressive DAs”), cultural normalization of drug use, and failed experiments in drug legalization are all blamed for escalating the crisis ([43:21]-[44:38]).

Notable Quotes

"The United States consumes more illegal narcotics than any other nation on earth by far. So if the consumer demand... is that high, you’re never going to beat it."
— Bill O’Reilly [42:16]

"Without serious consequences, I think that this issue is going to continue."
— Chris Feistel [44:15]

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• "Nobody wants to lose their child... these family members were all wondering, hey, did anybody care? Does anybody remember?" — George Lutz [02:44]
• "I became the most subpoenaed person in American history. I had 112 subpoenas." — Eric Trump [18:29]
• "If I adapt you to the world, you’re not going to use this as a crutch...." — Leland Vittert, on his father's advice [29:09]
• "The United States consumes more illegal narcotics than any other nation on earth by far. So if the consumer demand... is that high, you’re never going to beat it." — Bill O’Reilly [42:16]

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Closing Notes

• The episode closes with recommendations of the featured books and gratitude for guests’ service and insights.
• Listeners are encouraged to follow up on the Honor and Remember legislation, read the highlighted books, and consider the broader societal implications raised in these discussions.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Eric Trump]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[George Lutz]

Sure, Bill, thank you for the opportunity to share with you. Change the mindset of a nation. It comes down to apathy really. You know, when my son was killed and you mentioned all the stats of Those. You know, my son was. Early on in 2005, you know, I realized that as I went out and I started to talk, talking to individuals, to families, to veterans, to just the regular community, most people didn't care. They didn't understand, you know, what it meant to have this military loss. And that kind of put me in a quandary, because when I got that knock on the door and those five words spoken to me, we regret to inform you, you know, it rocked my world. And I thought to myself, what am I going to do? How am I going to react? How do I grieve through this? Because nobody wants to lose their child. Nobody wants to lose their loved one. And so I began this search of how America remembers. What do we do? What do we say? You know, what emblems do we have? You know, how do we communicate as a nation that loss that is so. Should be so precious to everyone? And, you know, I found very little. I found that we focus a lot on the active duty and the veterans and the wounded. And we should. We absolutely should. But we kind of left behind those that gave their lives, right? Those that made that ultimate sacrifice and what it came down to. And so what I realized even beyond that was there was this whole plethora, Bill, of families that were still here with us, right? Grieving. Their loved one was gone. But these. These family members were all wondering, hey, did anybody care? Does anybody remember? How do they show us that they remember? And I thought, well, the best gift that I could give these Gold Star Families was to create a symbol, a national emblem by which we all could show our appreciation, right? And you're saying that the Secretary of War has finally got together, you know, a group, a coalition to talk about Gold Star Families? Well, those Gold Star Families been dying for generations, right? And so the cop, the horse is out of the barn in a sense.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so. So there's a flag that symbolizes that Americans do care about those who lost their lives defending this country or in active military service. Is that the flag behind you? You have a. Yeah.

[George Lutz]

Honor and Remember flag.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's okay. Do you want people. Do you want people to buy the flag or. I have a flag. Exact same thing. Mr. Lutz, in World War I, you know, I'm a collector of history, and I. And I have a flag that, when it was displayed, this was to honor the fallen U.S. soldiers in World War I. Is that what this is? You want people to acquire this, a.

[George Lutz]

National symbol of remembrance? Bill, this is what my mission has been for the last going on 17 years a national symbol of remembrance.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, but I want to get into the realistic nuts and bolts of this. I mean, nobody's going to argue with your campaign. It's certainly noble. But there is an MIA POW flag that flies around the country underneath the American flag. You've seen it, it's all over the place. Right?

[George Lutz]

Absolutely. Yes, sir.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You remind people about the horror of Vietnam, that all the people, all the Americans that were involved have not been accounted for. Is that what you want this flag to be? Maybe fly underneath the American flag and the POW flag?

[George Lutz]

Absolutely. I'm actually aligned with the MIA POW movement. You know, those MIA families are kia. They deserve to be recognized as fallen heroes. So yes, my goal is to have the Honor Remember flag fly in concert. To me, it completes a circle of tribute. Right. Our American flag, our U.S. history, our unity. The POW MIA flag recognizes those that were missing or captured. There are no more captured, but are now missing and need to be accounted for. But then the tens of thousands and millions of those that never got to come home and be a veteran and live their lives and raise their family, the Honor and Remember flag would be that beacon for all of Americans to be able to appreciate the sacrifice that we live under every day.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Certainly, as I said, a noble goal. How can people acquire the flag? What can they do to get in touch with you?

[George Lutz]

Sure, Absolutely. Well, the book tells that 20 year story of how we've got here. We have legislation in Congress right now, Bill HR 1363, which would make the Honor Remember flag an official US national symbol of remembrance. We have flags can be purchased anywhere online, on Amazon at. We do have a website, honorandremember.org that people can go to and find out about it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right.

[George Lutz]

The book. The book also, as I say, lays out the story. What, what you do need to know is that 29 states have already officially legislated this flag as their state symbol of remembrance.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Very good.

[George Lutz]

We're all, we're already over half the country, but we need those more states and the country to say, and they've started to today, apparently to say that when we say the words, you will not be forgotten. That they really mean it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. Back it up with something. Okay, so honor and remembrance.org honor and remembrance.org your book is tragedy to tribute one father's grief fuels a passionate journey to change the mindset of a nation. And then there's legislation pending in the House. We can't imagine anybody opposing it. So it's just a matter of getting these people to get it to the floor to vote. So just do me a favor, Mr. Lutz, keep me apprised of the legislation. We'll give you some help to push it through. And we respect your crusade very much. It is needed in this country. There's no doubt about it. And certainly your son Tony died a hero. And if we can ever do anything for your family, you let us know. Okay.

[George Lutz]

Thank you. Can I leave you with a thought?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Sure.

[George Lutz]

You may not remember this, but in 2008, in October, and I put this in the book, by the way, you were gracious enough to give give us 23 seconds on the air, you know, on, on your FOX News program through my friend Dennis Miller. And that 23 seconds bill back 17 years ago launched this mission to the capacity of where it is today.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And we might mention and but I don't deserve the credit. Miller does because Miller wrote the forward in your book and he has been a stalwart, stalwart in your organization and others. And people don't know that. And you know, Miller's retired now. He's living large in California. But he's still very involved. And thank you for reminding me. I hate to say anything good about Miller, you know, but boy, oh boy, is he a patriot. And thank you for that, Mr. Lutz. We really appreciate it. So we'll talk again. And we want everybody to go to get a flag and to help you as much as they can. Thank you. You're listening to the no Spa News WEEKEND edition. Joining us now is a man who knows the president of the United States pretty well because he's his father, Eric Trump is a new book, it's out October 14th, under siege, my Family's Fight to Save Our Nation. And he joins us now from Palm Beach, Florida. Let's face it, the US Economy is under stress, national debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this, get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free with billions in precious metals delivered thousands of five star reviews and an A plus from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text BILL to 998-899. Again, that's 866-32655, 7, 6. Or text BILL to 998-899. No newspaper is more iconic than the New York Post, so why not start your day with me telling you our best stories? I'm Caitlin Becker, host of the New York Post Cast. Every weekday morning, I'll break down the headlines that matter to you and the stories you're going to want to talk to your friends about. It's a mix of politics, business, pop culture, basically everything you expect from the New York Post. Ask your smart speaker to play the NYPOST cast, podcast, listen and subscribe on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, here's my first question for you. Does your dad listen to you when you give him an opinion?

[Eric Trump]

He listens, everybody when you give an opinion. That's the amazing thing about Donald Trump. I saw this bill starting on construction sites when I was a little kid. He'd go up to the electrician who was putting an outlet in the wall. He would ask him his opinion, right? Then he'd go to the head of the construction company, ask his opinion, and ultimately he would formulate his own based on kind of the opinions of a lot of people and who he thought was credible and what great ideas kind of, you know, rose to the top. And it's one of the things that makes the guy amazing.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so I assume that you discuss politics with your father, correct?

[Eric Trump]

Often.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And then your wife, Lara, very outspoken. She. You guys discuss. What percentage of the time do you think he listens to you? 80%? 40.

[Eric Trump]

I called him the morning of. You know, and I'm in a unique position. You know, he asked me to run the company when I was 33 years old, and I want run one of the great real estate empires anywhere in the world. But, you know, I called him the morning of November 6th. I go, Pops, I love you to death. I've been there since you came down the escalator. I've stood on that stage every single time. I've done thousands of speeches, and I'm gonna get the hell out of politics at this point. I'm. I'm retiring. Congratulations. We won the Super Bowl. And, you know, you're gonna do a great job for the country. I'm gonna do a great job for the company. But no, listen, there's certain people in his inner circle that he listens to. I express my opinions all the time. And, you know, we certainly share the same DNA in terms of how we think about these issues. I mean, you're talking about crime in these cities. Look what a great job he did in Washington, D.C. cleaned up the crime in about two seconds flat. And then he's walking around the parks talking about how he wants to replace the grass to make it look beautiful, to make Washington, D.C. look like one of our golf courses. I think that's a beautiful thing for the country and a beautiful thing for the nation.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, it would be, but last time I was there, I got sprinkler on me because now I'm just. Okay, now, look, I'm going to ask you this question. You don't have to answer it. I don't want to embarrass you for your father, but do you ever disagree with him? You ever say, hey, dad, maybe that's a little bit too much as you're doing here. Maybe we don't want to take over Canada. Maybe that's his plan.

[Eric Trump]

Bill, in all fairness, I love the idea of taking over Canada. I also like the idea of taking Greenland. Right. There are other countries you can, you can keep that are neighbors of ours. But no, I, I will. I do think Canada should be the 51st state. I certainly think green. Listen, I think, you know, joking aside, I think, you know, every, every child has probably slight disagreements, you know, with, with, with parents and philosophies and other things. But I've got to say, this guy's the most transformational person. I mean, the reason I stood on.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The stage is not.

[Eric Trump]

Bill, the reason I've stood on the stage is not because I need this job, believe me. It's because I care. Deep. I think the guy's doing a phenomenal job, as you saw today when he talked to every single general about not having Admiral Rachel Levine as Secretary of Health and Human Services or whatever the hell she was when she couldn't do a pull up. And having a guy like Pete Hegseth in there, who's strong, who's charismatic, who delivers a strong message, who's actually inspirational. You see the recruiting in our military going through the roof because of him. I know. I'm very proud of everything he's done. Really, I am.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Now, you know that he talks to me occasionally, and I'm not as bullish as you are. And I always, no matter what who it is, when they ask me my opinion, and I never volunteer opinion to the President, he has to ask me. I'm not intruding on that level. But when you say that you're in favor of annexing Canada as a 51st state, you know that's not going to happen. And number two, tourism is down because Canadians are so teed off, they're not visiting here. So there was a downside to that thing that would never happen. That's what I'm talking about here. That kind of a discussion.

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, I don't think so. I mean, I think if you kept a couple of the cities, I think Canada would probably go for us by about 85%. Right. I just got back from Canada last week. I was. I was. I was in the Yukon. I was in Whitehorse. And. And I can't tell you how much love there is coming out of Canada. But listen, irrespective, I. I think.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, you know, first.

[Eric Trump]

First of all, Bill, we'd be unstoppable in the Olympics. Let's just start there, especially the Winter Olympics. And I think that'd be a great benefit to taking Canada.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You know, I've been to Whitehorse myself. There's eight people there. This is. But it's really an adventure to go. All right, now. Getting revenge. So your whole book is. And it's a very interesting book, and I hope people check it out, that your family has just been battered for the past nine years. And I know that. I'm an eyewitness to that because I did the first interview with the president when he declared his candidacy, as you may remember. And I've seen the Trump hatred evolve into hysteria in this country. So I'm perfectly understanding the situation. But others may not know how intense it has been for your family. But there is a point where a revenge play, as I just pointed out, in Canada with a lower tourism now might come back to hurt the country. So you got to pick your targets now, Comey. I'm fine with Comey. I don't know whether you read my column on Sunday, but I'm fine with indicting him. I got no problem with that. And I'm fine if he gets acquitted, if a jury acquits him. That's our system. But he's a bad guy. I can document his badness, and he should be held accountable. But some others, I think you got to be careful that you don't want to go too far in the retribution, revenge area. Am I wrong?

[Eric Trump]

So. So, no, you're not wrong at all. Bill, how long you've known me for? Probably 20 years, right? You've seen me. I. I became the most subpoenaed person in American history. I had 112 subpoenas, and I.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's amazing. I didn't know that. I did not know that. Right.

[Eric Trump]

And you know why? And Bill, you know why they did that? Because you know, my father had constitutional protections being. Yeah, the, the President of the United States. Guess who didn't have constitutional protections? His son, who ran his entire empire and everything that he had ever built. They impeached my father twice. They raided our home. They weaponized the doj, they weaponized the FBI. They took my father off of Twitter, Facebook, Instagram. They gag ordered him more times than you can count. I was getting a subpoena every single day. I was in a deposition every single day. They took him off the ballot in Colorado. They took him off the ballot in Maine. They find us $560 million for never missing a loan payment and being a perfect company. They did everything they could to break up our family.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They.

[Eric Trump]

To de bank us, to de platform us. I mean, that's the whole concept of under siege. And despite the fact that we had what, negative 98% media coverage, meaning favorability wise, toward our family, toward my father, toward the movement, we beat these guys. And that's under siege, Bill. And so when the liberals cry about Comey, who very apparently lied in front of Congress, lied to Ted Cruz. Right. I mean, I think we all saw it. And, and by the way, this is an FBI director who is literally leaking memos to the, to the FBI.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Let, let the court, let the Justice Department prove that before we convict them here. But what's fascinating and beyond any challenge is that you were hauled into court, as you say, almost every day. Who paid for that? Who paid for. Your attorney and your family paid for that.

[Eric Trump]

It probably costs us $400 million in legal fees because they wanted to make up sham cases. Look at the Russia hoax.

[Leland Vittert]

I was the guy that got the.

[Eric Trump]

Call from the FBI saying, hey, I hear you have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. And guess what, Bill? We didn't have any secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower. We're largely a cloud based computer.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you don't have to convince. You don't have to convince me or my audience that they went after you in a, in a unprecedented way. Only Aaron Burr, who deserved everything he got from Thomas Jefferson. He's the only one close to what you went through. So you got Don Jr. Who's a simpatico with you. I mean, it's the same thing. But Ivanka, your sister, very smart. She's kind of withdrawn from all this. She got out. Why?

[Eric Trump]

I think Ivanka wants to be a mom. She lived in. She lived in Washington for Four years. She battled like hell. Ivanka is an amazing person. I'm incredibly close. I mean, I think, you know, how close our entire family is. And, you know, I think she got, you know, kind of done with the political charade. Frankly. I did as well. The one thing I think I needed to materialize for not only my kids, but also for history and for everybody who got attacked in the maga movement was exactly what I wrote in this book. I mean, what they tried to do, how they tried to do it, the way they came after us, you know, the 99% that no one actually saw on the front page of the New York Times. And. And so, you know, honestly, I kind of got out of politics, too, once. Once we won, you know, in November 5th.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, I know. You and Don Jr.

[Eric Trump]

I retired from politics because there's no place for me to run.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But you really haven't, because your wife's involved and you wrote this book. Final question. Have any of the networks invited you on to talk about book?

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, I mean, listen, we went to number one on Amazon almost instantaneously in every category. And by the way, I'm right next to you. Your book's doing phenomenal. So congratulations, my friend.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thank you.

[Eric Trump]

You know, shockingly. Shockingly, they have. I mean, I can't imagine New York Times is gonna.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, no, I can't imagine New York.

[Eric Trump]

Times is gonna be a thrill to put me at the top of the list, which I clearly deserve, and I think the numbers will get me there. But, no, I mean, listen, CNN was one of the first to call it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You're gonna have to fight it. Yeah, you're gonna have to fight it out with Kamala. But what network invited you on to talk about your book?

[Eric Trump]

Well, I mean, I think I've gotten probably outcoming from just about every network I listen, the main ones. Am I waiting for abc? No, I can't imagine they're gonna reach. That's what I can tell you. The amount of. The amount of coverage for the book has been amazing. And.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, I know. I mean, you're a big guy.

[Eric Trump]

It's going to. It's going to hurt a lot of feelings, Bill. And it deserves to hurt a lot of feelings because a lot of feelings deserve to be hurt on that side. I mean, the media in this country is, you know, better than anybody in Europe, you know. You know, they were. They were the, you know, PR arm of the Democratic Party for the last 15 years, and they've lost all their independence. And it's why, you know, independent voices like yours has really kind of.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. It's been longer than 15 years. About. About 30 years, yeah. All right. The book is under siege. It'll be out October 14th, which you can, you know, order it in advance on Amazon. That will send a message. And we appreciate it. Eric, you're welcome anytime here. Thanks very much. This is the no Spin News Weekend Edition. There's another book out here that you should know about. It's called Born Lucky. Okay. A dedicated father, a grateful son. My Journey with Autism, written by my pal Leland Vitart, who works at News Nation. I was on his program last night. He always gets big ratings when he puts me on. That's why Lillian does it. But Leland was born with autism. And it's a harrowing story. I read it, the book. I blurred the book because it gives hope. This book gives hope to millions of American parents in the same situation. May not be autism, but disabilities with children. Almost every parent has to deal with this somehow, somewhere. Leland Vitter joins us now from New York City. So the book's out today. Congrats on that. It's number 20 on Amazon right now. After this interview, it'll zoom probably to number one. It's a really good book, Leland. And you know me. I wouldn't say that if it was. Weren't. We did a special on Sunday night on News Nation. You can access that on News Nation and on billow reilly.com it's well worth watching. But the first question is for you. Your father is the hero of the book. Hey, Mike Baker here, host of the President's Daily Brief podcast. If you want straight talk on national security, foreign policy and the biggest global stories going on of the day, this is the show for you. We publish twice a day, Monday through Friday, once in the morning, again in the afternoon. And on the weekend, we go longer with the PDB Situation Report with excellent guests including national security insiders and foreign policy experts. Check us out on Spotify, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts. Also on our YouTube channel, ResidentsDaily Brief. If you're shopping while working, eating, or even listening to this podcast, then you know and love the thrill of a deal. But are you getting the deal and cash back? Rakuten shoppers, do they get the brands they love? Savings and cash back. And you can get it, too. Start getting cash back at your favorite stores like Levi's, Plow and Hearth, Adidas, Sephora, and Neiman Marcus. Stack sales on top of cash back and feel what it's like to know you're maximizing the savings and it's easy to use and you get your cash back sent to you through PayPal or check. The idea is simple. Stores pay Rakuten for sending them shoppers and Rakuten shares the money with you as cash back. Download the free Rakuten app or go to rakuten.com to start saving today. It's the most rewarding way to shop. That's R A K U t e n rakuten.com he saved you. But he didn't want me to interview him with a book. Why?

[Leland Vittert]

He doesn't like being called a hero. He's very uncomfortable with it, Bill. And he says that he was just doing what any loving father would do, which is try to help his son and do everything he could and everything in his power. And the stories in Born Lucky are that of him working on an hourly basis to keep me from falling apart because of the bullying and the isolation and the difficulties I was going through, but also to adapt me to the world, to teach me the social skills and emotional interaction that comes so easily to most everyone that I didn't understand in any way, shape or form. And in Born Lucky, we take you through those lessons.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Now, how old were you? If you can remember, how old were you when the bullying started because you were different from all of the other kids?

[Eric Trump]

Yeah, I know.

[Leland Vittert]

It started when I was. When I was 4, 5, 6, 7. As soon as kids interacted with each other, I didn't fit in. It was very simple. But I want to just follow up on what you asked and just finish the question about what with my dad. The reason this book is out, Bill, is because I said to him, I'm going to write this and if you don't like it, I'm not going to put it out. And before I turned it into HarperCollins, I handed him the manuscript and he read it and he was very uncomfortable with it because it's so personal. It is the deepest and darkest parts of my life. And his emotions, it's some really emotional stuff. And he was very uncomfortable. And I said, how about this, dad? If when I was diagnosed at 5, the woman who diagnosed me hadn't said, there's nothing you could do, she hadn't said, he's just the way he is and we don't really understand what's happening in his mind, but instead it handed you Born Lucky, what would you have thought? He said, I would have read it every week because it would have given me hope that I could make an enormous difference in your life and how to do it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, the narrative of the book and the reason it's born Lucky is that Leland's nickname is Lucky. And the reason his nickname is Lucky is because he almost died at birth because he had the umbilical cord wrapped around his throat. Now, I don't want to give it any more away. I want people to read the book. But you experience an enormous amount of pain from maybe age 5 all the way through to college when you went to Northwestern. But you were diagnosed as having a very high IQ academically. All right, you could absorb information, but on the social front you were not able to communicate with other kids. Is that about it?

[Leland Vittert]

Yeah, that's true. Although also when they did this IQ test, there were parts of my IQ that were very high and parts that were, in the parlance of the day, mentally retarded. I had a 70 point IQ spread between the two halves of the test. 20 points represents a learning disability. So they said to my parents, we've never seen a kid like this. We've never seen this kind of spread. And what that meant was I had severe problems learning, writing, articulating myself, these issues. And my dad said, there will be no special accommodations. I didn't get extra time on tests. I didn't get into special classes. I didn't get a quiet room to take my test or to study in any of that kind of stuff because my dad said I have to adapt you to the world. I can't adapt the world to you because if I do, you're going to not only define yourself by this issue, but you're going to use it as a crutch. If you use it as a crutch in school, you're going to want to use it as a crutch. Later in life that he wanted to.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Toughen you up, you were going through basic training to be, I don't want to use the word normal, but a regular person. Your father actually. Your father actually quit his job so he could be there with you throughout the days. He actually walked away from his profession, right?

[Leland Vittert]

He did. And look, you know, inborn. Lucky, you know, the day that a teacher in front of the entire art class, because I wasn't Picasso, said, hey, look, Lucky, you know, if my dog was as ugly as you, I'd shave its ass and make it walk backwards. It was my dad waiting at the driveway at 4:20 every night to put me back together, which he did every day. And he, he ended up crying by himself in the living room oftentimes after he'd said goodnight to me. But I think, Bill, what you're getting at, it's an important question because people can easily read Born Lucky or see the show here and say, hey, look, it's great that Vidard's dad quit his job. He was an entrepreneur. Great that he turned into a cable news anchor. I asked my dad, hey, look, dad, what would you have done if you couldn't quit your job? He said, I would have worked the night shift and been there in the morning when you left for school and slept and been there when you got home. He said, I knew your only chance was me being there and me helping you because you were all I, I was all meaning, you know, my dad was the only thing I had.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You know, it's an amazing book, an amazing story. But again, the reason that it's so important and Leland will tell you then how he got into broadcast journalism and how he worked for Fox News in the Middle East. Very dangerous assignment. And then now he's one of the main anchors at News Nation. He goes through that. But the real importance nationally for this book is anybody with a child who's having difficulty will get hope from reading this book. And that is very, very rare. So very good for you to write this book. Your father was obviously a hero. I know he doesn't want to hear it again. There is a documentary. You can go to News nation. Was it newsnation.com and they'll just punch something. We have it on billorilly.com as well. So, Leland, very good. It's going to do very well and we really appreciate it.

[Eric Trump]

Thanks, Bill.

[Leland Vittert]

Appreciate it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Onward. You're listening to the no Spin News Weekend Edition. So there's a real war on drugs now, not a phony war. And the war is that the Trump administration is attacking in the Caribbean boats laden with cocaine, blowing them out of the water. And that is just the beginning. All right. I expect to see American military intrusion in Mexico. Don't know when that's going to start. Trump doesn't really want to do that, but I think he's going to have to. Cocaine comes out of Central America. Venezuela is the main trans shipment center. So it's grown in Bolivia, Ecuador, Peru. Then it gets shipped to Venezuela. They say, hey, come on in. They're all getting money, including Maduro, the president of Venezuela, the dictator. So they're all being paid. It's a narco state. And then it gets on a boat and it comes into the usa. And then if the intel says the boats are laden, boom, we blow them up. Now there is a task force in Florida. This is an amazing story. It's called the Joint Interagency Task Force. All right. Jiatf, they always have an acronym. And they have seized last fiscal year, which ends, I think, today, 1 million pounds of cocaine, a record 1 million pounds of cocaine headed for the USA. Now that's a good job. But if they've seized a million pounds, you got to figure £10 million got in. Right. And, and then the heroin and the fentanyl and the methamphetamine coming across the Mexican border. This joint task force operates out of Florida cocaine centers. Joining us now from Phoenix, Arizona is the co author of a very good book called After Escobar Taking down the Notorious Cali Godfathers and the biggest drug cartel in history. Chris Feistel is a former DEA agent, longtime 26 years. Twelve of those years he spent in a very dangerous situation in Columbia, South America. All right, so I liked your book. I have a chapter on Escobar in confronting Evil. But if people really want to know the micro, because you get into this thing, the whole book is on Escobar and that whole cartel down there.

[Eric Trump]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Eric Trump]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Eric Trump]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Leland Vittert]

Come and see what all the fuss is about. You can listen to Piers Morgan uncensored on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Sean Spicer from the Sean.

[Eric Trump]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Eric Trump]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Eric Trump]

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[Leland Vittert]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

There's a difference between the Mexican situation and the South American situation, right? Which do you think is more dangerous?

[Chris Feistel]

Good to be with you today, Bill. Right now, the Mexican cartels pose the most danger to the United States. They have. In February of this year, the Trump administration designated six Mexican cartels as designated foreign terrorist organizations. So at this point in time, they are the most direct threat to the United States.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right. But he has not taken military action against those cartels. And he could under U.S. law. But Scheinbaum, the president of Mexico, does not want that. Do you have any idea why the Mexican government has allowed these cartels to pretty much run the country?

[Chris Feistel]

Well, Mexico has an historic problem with corruption that dates back many, many years. And the fact that these Mexican cartels are intertwined with various levels of the Mexican government allows them to operate pretty much with impunity in Mexico. And you know, a lot of these drug cartels, they cannot operate without corruption, without the help of the government. So that is a problem that Mexico and the United States have dealt with for. For some time now.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You think Obra d' or is on a take because he absolutely let the cartels do whatever they wanted to do at great expense to his own people. Hundreds of thousands were murdered under Obra d'.

[Eric Trump]

Or.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Do you think he was on a take?

[Chris Feistel]

Well, it's hard to say if he was, Bill, but as some people in his administration most certainly were.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And he had to know about it, right?

[Chris Feistel]

I would assume so, yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Now, Colombia, where you spent an amazing 12 years risking your life, that country goes up and down and in and out. Now it's another problem for the United States with the cocaine. They were cooperating, now they're not cooperating. What's going on there?

[Chris Feistel]

Well, Colombia and Venezuela right now pose a significant problem for the United States. Both of the countries have recently been decertified by the US Government for their non compliance in helping the United States go after corruption, drug traffickers, extradition and money laundering. So this is a problem that's going to continue right now under the current administrations with President Petro in Colombia. He recently had his visa revoked by the United States. They have not been compliant in helping the United States as well as Venezuela. So I expect drug trafficking, record amounts of cocaine to be coming out of Venezuela as well as Colombia.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. And again, that's the same shadows the Mexican thing. A lot of money changing hands, a lot of people getting wealthy in the governments by taking bribes, right?

[Chris Feistel]

Absolutely. And if you look at Venezuela and the Maduro administration and the Cartel de los Soles, the Cartel of the Suns, which involves high level Venezuelan military and government officials, they're complicit in that. There's also been a $50 million reward for President Maduro for his arrest and conviction. And that just shows that the government of Venezuela is complicit in drug trafficking and they continue to pose a serious problem to the United States.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Do you trust the DEA and the Feds to give us accurate information because they could say anything. They could say Maduro is a drug dealer, and this one's that, and that one's this. When you see the information come out to the American public, do you trust it?

[Chris Feistel]

100%, Bill. And it's not that. The information that comes out that we trust. They have indictments against various individuals in the Venezuelan government. And in order to obtain those indictments, you need evidence, strong evidence, because the ultimate goal would be to try and convict these individuals. So we can't operate just solely on the premise of information. We need hardcore evidence to be able to append these people to significant crimes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And once they come here and are tried, like Escobar, they always get convicted, they never get acquitted. Usually they plead guilty, right?

[Chris Feistel]

Absolutely. Because there is overwhelming evidence against these individuals. Now, if you have, like Chapo Guzman to take, for example, if you have unlimited resources and a vast amount of money to be able to fight these charges, you can go ahead and do that. Obviously, that's their right. But the overwhelming amount of evidence ultimately comes out. And to the men and women who are sitting on these federal juries, they hear that information, they hear the evidence against them. It's overwhelming. And just about every time these individuals are convicted.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. And they can't get convicted in Mexico, Colombia or Venezuela because the drug gangs will kill all the jurors and their families. Right.

[Chris Feistel]

Well, that and as well as the corruption, that's why the United States always pushes for the extradition of these major trials to the United States. States.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right. Chris, I don't think the drug war is ever going to be won, no matter what Trump does or the American military or the DEA or anybody else. Because if you're smuggling 10 million tons of cocaine into the United States, that means millions of Americans are buying it, and they seem to be buying it more than ever before. Despite all of the warnings about fentanyl, all of this, everybody knows they're still buying narcotics at a record rate. The United States consumes more illegal narcotics than any other nation on earth by far. So if the consumer demand in our country is that high, you're never going to beat it. There's always going to be somebody dealing it. Am I wrong?

[Chris Feistel]

No, you're absolutely right, Bill. And the. It's the law of supply and demand. So the more demand that there is in the United States and throughout the world, the more supply that there's going to be.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Why do you think there's so much demand in the usa? Why do you think that so many Americans use illegal narcotics, thereby enriching these killers in these foreign countries and destroying their own situations. If you're using opiates, why, why are they doing it?

[Chris Feistel]

That's, that's a great question, Bill, and I wish I had the definitive answer for that. But, you know, I think, you see drug usage has increased significantly over the past several years, especially with youth. I think they, they perceive this as something cool that they can do. And, you know, the United States, we have a lot of people with a lot of money that, you know, don't have a lot of time to spend. They're looking for hobbies, they're looking for outlets. They're, you know, for a variety of different reasons, but to. The demand has continued to rise over the last several years, significantly in the United States.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There's no stigma attached to it now, particularly in the entertainment industry in this hip hop culture. And the second thing is that in New York and Chicago and L. A, you can deal heroin and cocaine on the street, openly get arrested, and you won't get charged, you'll be out on no bail. I mean, it's easy to do it. You can make a bloody fortune. And the downside is you get booked, you're in there a couple hours, the progressive DA's don't want to prosecute you. They see it's a victimless crime, all of that. That's why I think that this drug thing is rising. It's the culture, the permissive culture, and the absolute dereliction of duty on the part of these Soros backed district attorneys across the country. Last word?

[Chris Feistel]

100%, Bill. And we've seen that. And in some of these cities where they've tried these experiments to decriminalize small amounts of drugs, there are no consequences. There are no harsh penalties. People are selling drugs, using drugs, they're getting arrested, they're back out on the streets in no time. So without serious consequences, I think that this issue is going to continue.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, Oregon legalized. And they had to then go back and say no because Portland was destroyed and the kids were going wild. All right, the book again, I recommend it. Escobar taking down the notorious Cali godfathers and the biggest drug cartel in history. Chris, thanks very much. We appreciate your service. Number one, there's a long history of putting yourself in personal danger to fight these evildoers. And they are evil, which is why I have them in my book, Confronting Evil. And we appreciate your service in the book very much. Thanks for appearing. Thank you for listening to the no Spin News Weekend Edition. To watch the full episodes of the no Spin news, visit bill o'reilly.com and sign up to become a premium or concierge member. That's Billericom. Sign up and start watching today.