O'Round the World - April 5, 2026

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: O'Round the World – April 5, 2026

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Overview

This episode centers on Bill O’Reilly’s recent investigation into the “collapse” of San Francisco, analysis of U.S. domestic and foreign policy (particularly regarding Iran and President Trump), the decline of urban America, media trust issues, and broader social, political, and moral concerns in the U.S. O’Reilly brings insights from his NewsNation special, fielding questions on several radio hits and interviews, and interweaves commentary on the state of journalism, American values, and the looming midterm elections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. San Francisco Special: Urban Decline and Policy Failure

[00:50-07:51, 28:14-38:49]

• San Francisco's “Collapse”: O’Reilly recounts his NewsNation documentary, calling San Francisco a “hellhole” due to rampant drug use, lawlessness, and unchecked homelessness, especially in the Tenderloin district.
  • Describes “40,000 drug addicts running around,” mostly unchecked, fueling a breakdown in public safety and sanitation.
  • Criticizes the city and state for policies that offer cash debit cards and housing, but not effective treatment or enforcement, asserting this attracts more addicts (“They migrate to the city and have destroyed the inner core” [28:33]).
  • Memorable quote: “It’s not compassion to allow people to kill themselves out on the street. That’s not compassionate.” (Bill O’Reilly, 28:33)
• Blame on Political Leaders: O’Reilly condemns San Francisco and California officials for “virtue signaling,” accusing them of prioritizing their own image over taxpayers and public safety.
• Policy Solution Proposed: Urges “mandatory therapeutic centers” where addicts are forced off the street—a controversial stance—instead of permissive, unconditional financial aid.
• Comparison Metrics: SF spends $106,000/year per homeless person; highest homelessness rate nationally.
• Sanctuary Policy Impact: Argues sanctuary laws “protect” cartels and drug dealers, exacerbating the crisis.
  • “You don’t pay your drug debt, they’ll cut off your hand with a machete.” (Bill O’Reilly, 06:56)

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2. U.S. Foreign Policy – Trump, Iran, and the Midterms

[08:59-16:27, 28:14-36:36]

• Trump’s Political Crossroads: O’Reilly and Leland Vitter discuss Trump’s urgent need for an Iran deal before the midterms to boost his political fortunes and mitigate rising oil prices.
  • “I think the president ... needs a deal with Iran within, I’d say, six weeks. And then oil prices will come down very, very quickly ...” (Bill O’Reilly, 13:17)
• Media and “Draft” Hysteria: Pushes back hard on public fears and “podcasters” alleging a military draft, calling it “ridiculous ... not gonna happen. We fight high tech wars now.” (Bill O’Reilly, 11:37)
• NATO & Europe: Criticizes European allies (especially Spain) for not supporting U.S. efforts and alleges NATO is “shattered ... like Humpty Dumpty.” Asserts the U.S. is “doing all the heavy lifting.”
• Iran Policy Analysis: Foresees a deal where Iran opens the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for “survival” of the regime but no nukes (“No nukes have got to be in the forefront of any deal” [35:53]).
• China’s Role: Notes China’s dependence on Mideast oil and geopolitical significance in the current crisis.
• Midterms Loom: Emphasizes that voter anger about inflation and war could flip control if problems persist; Democratic advantage is mainly “they’re not Donald Trump.”

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3. Media, Truth, and Trust

[38:49-39:55, 18:56-20:05]

• Media Ethics Criticized: O’Reilly slams misreporting of the Charlie Kirk murder trial and tabloid sensationalism (“penny dreadfuls”) for “creating unhinged conspiracies” and undermining public trust.
• Newsroom Decline: Nostalgically contrasts past mainstream news standards with today’s financial pressures and ideological distortions. “When you are tasked to really do an honest job covering the news and you don’t, then it’s a problem.”

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4. National & Local Politics Recenters: New York State and Beyond

[16:36-26:56]

• Democrats’ Dilemma: O’Reilly and Mark Simone discuss the “no kings” demonstrations—framed as protests lacking substantive alternatives to Trump.
  • “No Kings demonstration was really a no solutions demonstration” (O’Reilly, 20:05)
• Predictions on NY Governor Race: O’Reilly foresees Bruce Blakeman potentially gaining ground due to discontent with Kathy Hochul and city mismanagement.
• Socioeconomic Flight: Touches on “big money going south” from NY and CA, blaming radical leadership and failed policies.

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5. Crime, Justice, and Social Breakdown

[40:20-49:47] Sid Rosenberg segment

• Loss of Moral Foundation: Both hosts lament the “decline of religion” and erosion of basic values—citing rising crime, public disorder, and breakdown of justice as evidence.
  • “When you have that rise in ‘there’s nothing wrong’, then anarchy creeps in. That’s what I did in San Francisco ... they won’t enforce the law.” (O’Reilly, 53:29)
• Jury’s Leniency/Technicalities: The trial of a cop’s killer is discussed as a symptom of a permissive legal culture, with O’Reilly favoring tough justice but opposing the death penalty on moral/religious grounds.
  • “The state ... should not have the right to terminate somebody’s life.” (O’Reilly, 49:14)

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6. American Culture and Religion: Right/Wrong Boundaries

[49:55-55:59]

• O’Reilly posits that boundaries set by religious teaching are essential to social order: “Only the Creator has the moral authority to create or end a life.”
• Identifies 30% of Americans as having “no belief” systems, attributing social dysfunction and policy failure to this trend.
• Celebrates religious holidays as anchors for family and moral teaching.

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7. Personal Reflections: Religion, Holidays, and Optimism

[56:12-62:39]

• Shares his family’s plans for Holy Week and Easter, reflecting on faith, tradition, and his optimism for America’s future, despite present turmoil.
  • “I’m very confident that in America, things are going to turn better. We’re setting ourselves up, I think, for economic prosperity here.” (O’Reilly, 61:39)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On San Francisco:
  • “There are 40,000 drug addicts running around, according to Harvard, doing whatever they want to do, stealing, injecting narcotics into their necks in front of children ... debasing themselves and others. It’s horrible.” (Bill O’Reilly, 00:50–01:22)
• On Solutions:
  • “You have to force the 40,000 drug addicts into what I call therapeutic centers … Help means medical exams … There are drugs that block opiates from taking effect.” (Bill O’Reilly, 04:46)
• On Sanctuary Policies:
  • “Illegal Honduran gangs tied to the Sinaloa Mexican cartels. ... they’re protected because the city of San Francisco and the state of California are sanctuary cities.” (Bill O’Reilly, 05:38)
• Regarding Iran:
  • “I haven’t heard any serious person say there’s going to be a draft. ... We fight high tech wars now.” (Bill O’Reilly, 11:37)
  • “Democrats have nothing. ... It really wasn’t a no kings demonstration. It was a no solutions demonstration.” (Bill O’Reilly, 13:41)
• On Religion and Morality:
  • “Only the Creator has the moral authority to create a life or end a life.” (Bill O’Reilly, 49:55)
  • “Religion sets a boundary. This is right, and this is wrong.” (Bill O’Reilly, 52:16)
• On Media:
  • “Again, people believe what they want to believe.” (Bill O’Reilly, 39:55)

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Important Timestamps

• San Francisco Segment & NewsNation Special Highlights: 00:50–07:51, 28:14–38:49
• Iran/Trump/Foreign Policy Discussion: 08:59–16:27, 28:14–36:36
• Media Criticism & Trust: 38:49-39:55, 18:56-20:05
• NY Politics & Socio-Economic Commentary: 16:36–26:56
• Crime & Justice with Sid Rosenberg: 40:20–49:47
• Religion, Culture, and Moral Discussion: 49:55–55:59
• Personal Family & Holiday Segment: 56:12–62:39

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Structure and Tone

The episode is robust, fast-paced, and direct, with O’Reilly employing his trademark sharpness, frequent use of statistics and anecdotal evidence, and pointed critiques of political, media, and urban management in the United States. Discussions are deepened by guest appearances, real-world examples, and O’Reilly’s first-hand reporting. The tone oscillates between outraged, candid, and, at the close, hopeful.

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For full investigative footage and further analysis, O’Reilly directs listeners to his NewsNation special (available on YouTube and BillOReilly.com).

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm bill o'reilly. You're listening to around the world. Let's begin. So you may have heard that we did a special on News Nation about the collapse of San Francisco, which was once, I think, the nicest city in the country, is now a hellhole. Sorry, There are nice neighborhoods. Nancy Pelosi lives in one of them. Okay. But there are 40,000 drug addicts running around, according to Harvard. Okay, a study doing whatever they want to do, stealing, injecting narcotics into their necks in front of children, debasing themselves and others. It's horrible. So I was there and I did the study and it ran last Thursday at 9pm Eastern Time. At 4:08 Eastern Time, the Bay Area Council of San Francisco issued a statement. Quote, what a tired, lazy narrative. Crime is down dramatically. AI investment pouring in. Challenges remain, but San Francisco is on the upswing and its beauty and cultural vibrancy are unmatched. Well, the beauty is gone if you are in the central part of the city or Fisherman's Wharf, unless you like rats running all over the place. Okay, but that statement was issued five hours before the actual program. So how would they know? They didn't know. They just knee jerked it as usual. And then they say crime is down. Hey, San Francisco people. Homicide so far this year up 250%. That's murder. That's murder, 250%. Okay, rape, down 13%. But still problem, big problem. And human trafficking, no change. That's where they grab kids, force them into prostitution. So you people are just lying to yourselves. And I know, I understand you want business to come in. I got it, but don't have to be deceitful about it. Now, if you missed the special on News Nation. It's now on YouTube. It's going crazy. I understand. People are just, you know, watching it by the hundreds of thousands. Here's a taste of it. Go. So this is the Tenderloin district of San Francisco, one of the worst places in the United States of America. The reason it's so bad is because there's no law enforcement at all here. There's violence, drugs everywhere. They call this stretch of the Tenderloin cartel alley. Now, I'm reporting with a mixture of anger and sadness. Should not be happening in the United States. All right? And it's happening because of one major reason. People don't care about these people. They don't care. All right? So every indignation you could possibly imagine happens right out here in full view. Now the stats again. 40,000 drug addicts, at least. And you know who sells them the drugs? Illegal Honduran gangs tied to the Sinaloa Mexican cartels. And they're protected. The gangs are protected because the city of San Francisco and the state of California are sanctuary cities. They're not even arrested, these drug dealers. They're everywhere, and they're armed. You don't pay your drug debt, they'll cut off your hand with a machete. Okay? So the reason that this has gotten so far out of control is that the people who run San Francisco, as I just said, don't care because you could clean it up. And it's not that difficult to do. You have to force the 40,000 drug addicts into what I call therapeutic centers. Got to take them off the street and get them some help. Help means medical exams. If there are drugs that block opiates from taking effect, you know that. So you don't have to go into withdrawal. Most of these people on the streets want to be there. They don't want help. They like living like this. Every study shows that. And then there's the money. So San Francisco spends $106,000 a person a year on these people. 106,000. Second is New York City. 88,000. Where does it get San Francisco? Where does it get the tax rate? Nothing. They give them houses. Housing's too dangerous. And we get into that in the special. The addicts don't want to go into housing because they get shot, because the housing is all full of drugs. That's where the dealers are. So they're not going there. And as far as numbers, the homeless rate in San Francisco is 100 poor per 10,000. People in Houston, bigger city, 6 per 10,000. Miami. Little gritty in Miami. 13 homeless rate 100 per 10,000 in San Francisco. Why? So you give them free money, they give you a debit card, and you can get between 600 and $1,000 cash. If you're in various programs in San Francisco, you put the card in every first of the month. And if cash comes out and you buy heroin or your fentanyl or your methamphetamine, that's why. So the overarch of this special

[Katie]

was,

[Bill O'Reilly]

and I hope you watch, okay, it's on YouTube now. It's easy to find. Go to billo reilly.com and just pop. This thing is that there is a solution to the problem. But the city fathers in San Francisco, because they want a virtue signal, they, oh, no, no, no, we're so noble, but we don't care about the taxpayers or the people getting killed or the Honduran drug gangs. We don't care about them, but we're going to be humane. Meantime, the whole thing spiraled out of control to an extent that's horrifying. Where do you see the pictures? It's horrifying and as I said, should never happen in the United States of America, ever. Every American should be outraged. They're not outraged. They attack me for doing a special. Oh, no, no, no. Everything's getting better. No, it's not. You're lying. It's not getting better. And the video proves it. Here's my NewsNation appearance with Leland Vitter.

[Leland Vitter]

Bill, where does Trump have to get to to declare a victory? That leaves him more powerfully, more powerful politically going into the midterms,

[Bill O'Reilly]

he's got to get some kind of written deal that weapons inspectors will be admitted to Iran to make sure that they don't enrich uranium anymore. That's pretty much it. I'm so tired of the cliche boots on the ground. I can't tell you I was surprised by that. Was a senator from Tennessee. He's got to know what he's saying is just gibberish. So if the United States sends in infantry, it's not for an occupation. It's not like Vietnam or Iraq or even Afghanistan. It's for a mission. So it's not inconceivable that US Soldiers would go in, for example, and knock out some of the batteries in the Straits of Hormuz and then be evacuated out. That's what this is all about. But these people with boots on the ground, there's going to be a draft. This is hysteria. And it's stoked by the media, of course. They want hysteria surrounding President Trump. So that's what they do. But I was surprised by that guy in Tennessee. He should know better.

[Leland Vitter]

Tim Burchett. Well, he was wearing Tennessee orange and his volunteers lost in the basketball, so maybe he was a little upset about that. You say though it's being stoked by the media. It's being stoked also, though, by a lot of President Trump's supporters. Here is a number of the podcasters who got him elected and supported him now turning on him. And you'll know it's bad when they start talking about a draft. Now, what is a draft? Well, of course, it's the definition of tyranny.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Nobody going to know.

[Leland Vitter]

You gotta tell us why we there first.

[Bill O'Reilly]

How many soldiers do you think you need to occupy that country?

[Sid Rosenberg]

At least half a million.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And probably you can't do it with that. So what are you talking about here? And so you're saying, are we gonna start a draft for the least popular war going in in American history?

[Leland Vitter]

That mean Trump sent her a lot of pressure to wrap it up.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And not unless Rob Schneider becomes the Secretary of War. I haven't heard any serious person say there's going to be a draft. I haven't either.

[Leland Vitter]

No, that's.

[Katie]

But I think that's the point.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Serious person.

[Leland Vitter]

No, I haven't.

[Katie]

But let me point.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There isn't one serious person that thinks there will be a draft. Not one. These are hucksters, okay? These are scaremongers. It's not going to happen. It's ridiculous. It's not necessary. We fight high tech wars now.

[Leland Vitter]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And so when I hear all this stuff, it just helps Iran. And Iran is playing a game now where it wants to outlast the United States and Israel. And they know that the Europeans have already surrendered to them. You know, NATO has surrendered to Iran. They know that. They know that the corporate media in America will oppose anything and everything that Donald Trump does. So that's two powerful entities that are helping Iran, correct?

[Leland Vitter]

Yeah, it is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They're going to hold on, Right?

[Leland Vitter]

We said this from the very beginning. The only thing that Iran has to do to win is, is to survive to outlast Trump. A test of political wills and timing. But President Trump's up against a deadline. That deadline is the midterms. You made the point more than a year ago that basically he had till April or May of this year for prices to start coming down, for people to feel relief. So he's trapped right between his legacy that can be defined by remaking the Middle east to this safer, better place and defanging Iran or his political capital and political future by having to win the midterms, that gas prices are going to kill his chances of which one's more important.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think the president, I don't want to use the word desperately, but needs a deal with Iran within, I'd say six weeks. And then oil prices will come down very, very quickly because there's a glut of oil worldwide, a lot of oil. And China is a part of this equation that the president's going to go to meet the Chinese Communists in Beijing Xi. And I'm sure they have some kind of deal already worked out, because they just don't go over there and say, hey, what do you want to do? That doesn't happen. But the President knows that if things continue to be a stalemate, like Ukraine, very similar, that he could lose the midterms. And if that happens, his legacy is damaged. But consider this. Democrats have nothing. It really wasn't a no kings demonstration. It was a no solutions demonstration. So all these people that ran out there to demonstrate that they think that President Trump is the worst human being in the world, what's their solution to Iran? What's your solution to. That's our D block bills.

[Leland Vitter]

That's our D block.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, well, later, later in the show, I'm saying, I'm setting you, I'm setting you up for it.

[Katie]

Thank you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And then people will be anxious to hear what you have to say. But it's true. So if you go down the list of problems that we have, how are the no Kings people going to drop food prices? How? They don't have a clue. They don't know anything. And when you look at 75 million,

[Leland Vitter]

I don't argue with that. And we'll make that point in the D block.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But that's a big advantage to Trump, right?

[Leland Vitter]

It is a big advantage to Trump. But the biggest advantage Democrats have right now is that they're not Donald Trump. They're not the ones in power, because people are angry. And they're going to be angry about high prices. They're going to be scared if this war continues. I mean, you saying that the president and you said, I don't want to use the word desperate, but basically you said, he's desperate for a deal. The Iranians know that. How then does he get a win?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I didn't say desperate. You don't, you don't negotiate a deal out of desperation. He knows that. He's a very good deal maker. I'd never use that word. So let's correct the record there. He needs a deal. Okay. That would work to his advantage in every way and he may get one. It just depends on how much damage the Iranians can absorb.

[Leland Vitter]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And they've absorbed a lot of damage right now. And it also depends on the Persian people, if they rise up. When is enough enough for them? Yeah, when is enough enough for them? I mean, your whole country is being dismantled and you're still sitting at home eating pita bread. Well, there's not a lot of going on.

[Leland Vitter]

My sources tell me there's more happening on the ground in Iran. The Iranians are still able to, to stop the flow of information out, but there's a lot happening. Bill, thank you very much. We'll talk to you soon.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Here's my weekly appearance with W O R's Mark Simone.

[Mark Simone]

Hey, I love the podcast, Steve Sharipa. That's my favorite episode. They're all good, but he's great.

[Katie]

Thank you. And we got Steve Croft coming up On Thursday, the 60 Minutes. Steve Croft, yeah, that should be an interesting conversation. He's an old time reporter like I am. Came up the traditional way. He was Obama's go to guy, you may remember on 60 Minutes. Knew all the legends, Mike Wallace and Hewitt and all those guys. And you know, CBS in the news now, a lot of changes going on. So I'm looking forward to that.

[Mark Simone]

Chad, you used to work there at CBS News, and back then it was a kind of a rational, sane place, wasn't it?

[Katie]

Yeah, I mean, it was always intense. I worked for Channel 2 for two years with Jim Jensen and Roland Smith and Warner Wolf, all those guys. And then I got promoted to the national news. Dan Rather, who I'm not particularly fond of and covered the wars in Central America and the Falklands, things like that. So I was busy there. But it was, I would say it was a traditional place with problems.

[Mark Simone]

Well, but compared to today's CBS News, a little more normal. You think they'll ever get these networks back to normal?

[Katie]

No, it's too expensive. You know, back when I was there, we used to whip around the world, first class airfare and best hotels and you were like James Bond. Now it's Motel 6 and hey, is that JetBlue on time? And the answer is no.

[Mark Simone]

Well, but that's every business. That's most businesses.

[Katie]

Yeah. I mean, but when you are tasked to really do an honest job covering the news and you don't, then it's a problem. And CBS has really gone down now they're trying to bring it back. And I give them credit for that. I don't know whether it will work or not.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Now.

[Mark Simone]

Bill O'Reilly, the great historian. Listeners calling in questions for you. Ronald Reagan reelection wins 49 states. Unbelievable. But what was, what was the most successful election ever? Nobody ever won 50, did they?

[Katie]

Washington. Nobody dissented. Yeah. And he could have been king of America. Talk about no kings. Washington could have been the king. Boy, they loved him. And rightly so. There were other landslides, but Reagan wiped out Jimmy Carter because Carter was so inefficient, on a par with Joe Biden. You know, Biden was worse because of the border. But boy, oh, boy, they were both terrible. And there have been a lot of terrible presidents, but these two were really, really in the forefront of modern Times.

[Mark Simone]

Now, Bill O'Reilly, would you give some advice to the Democrats? They want to go after Trump. They can't seem to put their finger on what it is that's bothering them. He's not a king. This no Kings made no sense.

[Katie]

Well, that's the problem because no Kings demonstration was really a no solutions demonstration. That's what it was. So we don't like chop. Okay, I understand. And dissent is fine. And it's a strength of our country. We should be able to protest and responsibly. But if you're going to hate the guy and think he's the worst, then what do you have that's better? So the best example is that according to just about every nuclear expert in the world, Iran was very close to enriching uranium to the level where it could have manufactured a nuke very quickly. Well, what's a Democratic Party's solution to that? Nothing. Nothing. And what's your solution to controlling immigration? Well, let them all in. Give him amnesty. And that's Trump's strongest card going into the midterms. So you may not like him and you may not support the Iran war, although if you don't support it, you really should have a reason. Not just I hate Trump, Trump's war, but what are you replacing Trump with? What is a Democratic Congress going to deliver? It's going to deliver higher taxes. It's going to try to get amnesty for all the millions of undocumented people that are here with some exceptions. But you really have to be a miscreant for the Democrats to turn on you. If you're an illegal alien, you really got to be bad. So Trump is on. Okay, is this what you want? And that's why the Democratic Party really, they think that they're Going to sweep, but I'm not so sure about that.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah, it's months and months and months away. Anything could happen. So, hey, you're a Nassau county resident. Bruce Blakeman, great county executive, he's coming up in the polls. He's closing the gap with Kathy Hochul. I think he's got a good chance. What do you think?

[Katie]

Yeah, I do. He's got to get this funding thing and that'll go to federal court if they deny him in Albany the funding because they did make a clerical error, the Blakeman campaign did. And. But I don't think you can alter an election financing of election for a clerical error that has been corrected. And if the Democrats, you know, said no, you're not getting any matching funds, I think it has to go to federal court and Blakeman will win. The problem that Blakeman has is that people in New York don't know him. And still to this day, I mean, you go north of Dutchess county, then people don't know Bruce Blakeman. And he's got to buy that. He's got to get on television and establish himself. The advantage he has is Hoko, because Hochul is now tied to Mandami and she wants to get away from him, but she's not going to be able to do that. And the worse it gets in the city, the worse it's going to get for Hokel. Yeah.

[Mark Simone]

So Blakeman could be, this could be a very pataky like race. We didn't know him either, but he just looked more genuine, more authentic and people loved him as they got to know him. So I could see that happening here. What do you think?

[Katie]

Well, it just depends on New Yorker's tolerance for pain. You know, how much pain do we have to experience here with this democratic one party leadership? And you know, people are fleeing. Everybody knows that the big money's going south, the budget deficit is insane. Mandami is confused. He's 34 years old. He can't run the city. It's going to get worse and worse and worse. He making every mistake you could possibly make. He's allying himself with the most radical elements. He himself is a communist and he is, you know, all you have to do is look at the estate tax on what he wants to take away from hard working Americans who save their money and want to pass it along to their family, to their heirs. He wants to take it all.

[Mark Simone]

That's another thing.

[Katie]

He wants to take it all. Yeah, that's communism. And so the people of New York State, a lot of them are distracted, a lot of them are poor. And they, they want the handouts above all else. And I don't mean to diminish poor people, but come on, we all know what's going on there and how much pain do you want to absorb? And you know, I hate going into that city now. I used to love it. I got to go tomorrow into the city. You know, it's dirty. I don't feel threatened. I mean, you know, when I'm walking around, but I'm not walking around late at night. But there's marijuana smoke on every, every block. You know, kids gotta look at these indignities of people on the street doing all this crazy stuff. It's going to get worse. So that, that's the key question in November. How much pain do you want to absorb to keep the Democratic structure in place?

[Mark Simone]

Well, hey, the Trump Presidential library, it's been announced it'll be Miami. If this were 10 years ago, wouldn't you think he'd want that library in New York? But now he can't do it because of the crazy left wing controlling.

[Katie]

If he does it, he'll be indicted for whatever it may be. You got five exits and you need eight. So we're taking it to federal court. Look, Donald Trump epitomizes New York. He epitomizes the swagger of the city. I wrote a book called the United States of Trump that demonstrated how he did what he did as far as building himself up into this unbelievable real estate colossus when his father didn't want any part of it. The guy is a quintessential New Yorker and now he can't come here. There's something wrong about that.

[Mark Simone]

Hey, even in California, there's an exodus from there. Biggest drop in population have experienced in many, many years. So I assume we can blame Gavin Newsom for that, Correct?

[Katie]

Well, I did a special this week on San Francisco and the collapse of it. It's on billoriley.com it's harrowing, absolutely harrowing. And it's mirrored on LA County. San Francisco is a smaller situation and 40,000 drug addicts, substance abusers running around causing all kinds of problems there in a certain area. So you're overwhelmed. Whereas LA county is the biggest county in the country. It's spread out, but it's the same problem. No law enforcement, none. And so when you have that kind of anarchy, people feel afraid because they shouldn't. And if you get in trouble in LA County, I don't, I don't know where you go. It's not the cops. The cops, they're good. But the judges and the prosecutors won't bring the cases. So 40,000 homeless drug addicts running around San Francisco, it's ruined the city. You gotta watch that, Simone. It's really something. You go to billo reilly.com, just punch it right up. And there I am in the middle of the Tenderloin district, you know, spelling it out for you. It should never happen in America. Stuff like that should never happen in this country.

[Mark Simone]

Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Listen to me as I join NEWS nation.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Bill, good to see you. Thanks for being here.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thanks for having me.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Katie, great to see you. So your special is called the Decline and Fall of San Francisco. For those who haven't seen it yet, what's the biggest takeaway about the city's failures and your experience covering this? And does it also include, you know, need this be applied to other cities we're seeing around the country?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, it's 40,000 drug addicts running wild in that town doing exactly what they want to do. And the city of San Francisco is paying them to do it. So the rate of homelessness in San Francisco, which according to a Harvard study is about 85% drug addicted, they get money, they get debit cards in the name of humanity and compassion. And so they migrate to the city and have destroyed the inner core. And it should never, ever be happening in the United States of America. This is horrible. And it's not compassion to allow people to kill themselves out on the street. That's not compassionate.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Yeah, we've seen policies in other cities that end that. Of course, domestic priorities for President Trump continue to be a focus. Bringing down the cost of living is something that he's been talking about. He's something he promised to do on the campaign trail, making America's streets safer. But, of course, the attention on the war in Iran is taking up a lot of significant time. In briefings, other public events, he's asked about this, of course, every time he does a gaggle with reporters. Today, the president suggested, and you talked about the European allies last time you were on the show had some choice words that I agreed with. He suggested the European allies go get their own oil rather than relying on the US to continue fighting battles in which they have an interest. What do you make of that statement? And is it time that the people who benefit the most from the Strait of Hormuz being open go in and get the oil?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, let's take a look at what's going to happen Tomorrow night, because it'll be very interesting. President Trump, I've known him 35 years. He doesn't deliver bad news like this. So you can expect a positive speech tomorrow at 9 Eastern. Okay? He's not going to go in and say, hey, we screwed up. It isn't working out. We're not getting what we want. That's not happening. So the President will put a positive face on the situation. He'll run down his greatest hits like he always does. You've heard it before, but he'll reiterate and then he'll pivot. I'm not sure what the Iranians have agreed to, but they've agreed to something. So he's not going to go on and say, I don't have anything. Thanks for watching. And now back to Different Strokes. He's not going to do that. So the Iranians agreed to something, but it'll probably leak out tomorrow. I'd say around mid afternoon what that something is. Now, as far as NATO is concerned, that alliance is shattered. It's like Humpty Dumpty. Nobody's going to put it back together again. It's over. The President expected some support and NATO let him down, particularly Spain. If it were me, I'd try to get Spain out of NATO because they denied landing rights to US air power and they have no reason to do that. Spain. But they did it out of spite because it's a socialist country and they don't pay their dues like everybody else does. For Naito. Why do we need Spain?

[Katie]

Yeah, why?

[Katie's Interviewer]

Actually, on that question on that issue, I want to follow up on that on a different topic, but related, because we're seeing this play out in real time where our NATO allies are not allowing us to use our bases or their bases when we need them in a crisis. The President has made the case that this is why the United States should be in charge of Greenland. And then the NATO partners have come in and said, no, we reassure you that you'll be allowed to use spaces in Greenland whenever you need to. Should there be a defensive cause against Russia and China in the Arctic. Does that fall apart now as a result of what we're seeing in the Middle East?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't expect to hear any of that. Not tomorrow.

[Katie's Interviewer]

But I mean generally, more broadly, not just tomorrow night.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think the Greenland thing has receded because it just didn't make any sense. We can use Denmark's territory. Denmark's not going to.

[Katie's Interviewer]

We'll see.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, but they're not going to object to it. They're dependent on us for their defense. And NATO is a very interesting animal because none of these countries coordinate with one another. They don't like each other. The Germans don't like the French. The French don't like the bell. You know, it's on and on and on and on. I mean, it's not like this is one bloc. And they all don't like President Trump.

[Katie's Interviewer]

The last time you said the Germans

[Bill O'Reilly]

were the worst prime minister. So they are the worst because we are dependent upon them because they're so close to Putin and they don't care. Look, when you have a threat that could blow up Europe, and I know people don't want to believe it, I wrote a message of the day. It'll be on billorilly.com tomorrow morning. People believe what they want to believe, Katie, and they don't want to believe that Iran is capable of launching a nuke. They don't want to believe it. And they do want to believe that Trump's the devil. So that's what they do. There's no rationality here, but just in a cautious realm. Why wouldn't you back the USA in this? We're doing all the heavy lifting along with you not doing anything and we're winning.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Why wouldn't you back us?

[Katie's Interviewer]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Because the more you back us, the quicker it's over and the quicker the gas prices come down, which I think the President will emphasize tomorrow because his problem is the US voter and the US voter. You know, look, it's a 50, 50 split, I think, among people who hate Trump and among people who like him. And the midterms loom. So I think that, that he's going to wrap that bow up, but he has to do it before he goes to China. Remember, he's supposed to visit Beijing in the middle of April. And the Chinese are big in this. You don't hear from them, but they're big in this whole thing because they need that oil coming through. China gets 80, 80% of its oil from the Gulf and they can't have it closed down. And that's a big factor.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Yeah. On the issue of, of China, there's been a lot of talk, of course, about getting the Strait of Hormuz open. There's been a lot of hand wringing in the media about this being a major crisis. The President thinks it is, obviously. However, when you look at it, it seems the people who benefit the least from it being closed are the Iranians and China. On top of China's oil getting cut off and the discounts taken away from the Venezuela raid with Maduro. So is this actually more beneficial to the US strategy in squeezing the regime into a deal than we would think, given the media coverage?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think in the end it'll come down to the mullahs can stay there and the CIA will continue to undermine them, hoping that the Persian people throw them out as they did with the Shah in 1979. And in return for them staying there, whoever they are and how many of them left, they'll open the straits. I think that's probably going to be the essence of the deal. And then off that comes lower gas prices for the world. We won. We took them out. They're evil. And no nukes, the no nukes have got to be in the forefront of any deal. Have to be.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Yeah, well, we've heard the president, you mentioned the midterms say that, look, politics are, of course, important, polling is important. But sometimes you have to do the right thing, regardless of what the popularity of it is. So maybe he'll address that tomorrow night. I want to switch gears before we let you go, Bill, in your special, you highlight the issue of drug abuse. Prescription medications, of course, were a factor rather in Tiger woods accident and DUI arrest last week. What do you make of this latest situation and the broader problem in America we have with this issue?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, Tiger woods is a drug addict. He admitted it tonight. He's going to rehab. And I hope, and I would encourage every American to hope that he gets well because he's a danger to himself and others. So we live in a culture that celebrates the destruction of the famous, which is one of the bad things about the United States. We'd love to see famous people we had taken down. I don't know what that mentality is, but I'm hoping that Mr. Woods cleans it up. As far as the other addiction problem that we have, it is there's only one solution, and that is therapeutic areas where drug addicts who are on the street not under supervision are force mandatory to go there for their own good. You know, there are narcotics now that block opiate addiction. They block it so you don't have to do withdrawal. You don't do that. People in San Francisco wanted to be there. They want to kill themselves, talk to them. They don't care whether they live or die. Did you know that the city of San Francisco spends more than $100,000 on each of these homeless people a year?

[Katie's Interviewer]

So what do you do with them, though, if they don't care if they live or die. I mean, what is the state supposed to do given the homelessness industrial complex and all the tax money that's gone towards this issue? And it's gotten worse.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. Because they knew it in the wrong way. You take that money, you build therapeutic centers. Okay. And you force these people to go there. They have no right to do this. They break every law.

[Katie's Interviewer]

That's for sure. They don't have the right to do it in public. Bill, we gotta run, but I want

[Bill O'Reilly]

to ask you one more question, one

[Katie's Interviewer]

more question quickly about the media's duty to report the news accurately. There was a story yesterday in the Daily Mail that completely botched developments in the murder trial of the man accused of killing Charlie Kirk. Of course, this doesn't only violate public trust, journalistic ethics, but it also creates unhinged conspiracies and can actually interfere in a trial. Just wanted to get your response to that false headline.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Justice Department has looked at all of those conspiracies. They say there's nothing to any of them. There have always been penny dreadfuls. You know what a penny dreadful is, Katie?

[Katie's Interviewer]

I don't think I do. Educate me, Bill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. It's a tabloid sheet. It originated in England and they called them penny dreadfuls. We don't print anything. Yes, and I think the publication you just named falls into that category along with a lot of other publications.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Yes.

[Katie]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Again, people believe what they want to believe.

[Katie's Interviewer]

Well, I think the facts in a murder trial are pretty important. Accuracy is crucial when it comes to a trial that has not happened yet. Bill O'Reilly, thank you for sharing your thoughts and spending some time with us on a variety of topics. We appreciate it. See you soon.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio.

[Sid Rosenberg]

We're in really big trouble, folks. And Bill O'Reilly's been talking about it for a long time, between the lack of religion, the media and other things. And Bill, I gotta tell you, we are really at a point, at least in my lifetime, if God is good to me, I'll be 59 April 19th, that I've never seen.

[Katie]

A lot of people have lost their way. There's no doubt about it. And there's a combination of reasons why poor parenting is number one. Number two is public schools that provide no perspective on life. I mean, I'm going to have to rewrite my book Not Confronting Evil after, you know, the Iranian thing, which is so clearly the right thing to do. And you never get that debate. So you never get the people who object to Trump or the military action saying, oh, no, let them have a nuke. But they hide behind the dissenters. They hide behind, oh, well, we don't trust him or we don't do this or we don't do that. And you're looking at them and you say, okay, so then shut up. If you don't know and you don't, why are you protesting? Why are you out there now in the Providence, Rhode island thing? What you have in New England is a very hardcore woke culture. Even worse in California, and a lot of the woke has disappeared, or it's on the downslide, not there. And they don't want to be reminded of violent crime.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Not here either, by the way.

[Katie]

Sorry, not what?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Not here either.

[Katie]

Yeah, but I think New Yorkers. Let me. Let me disagree with you a little bit on that. I think that most people reading the verdict of this family, because that's who basically is affected by this, was sympathetic to the family in New York. I just can't imagine people running around celebrating that this guy, who is a known violent gangster, didn't get the full boat.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, I'll tell you this. The mayor is on record visiting a man who plunged at a cop with a knife in the hospital. The mayor is on record visiting inmates at Rikers island who committed violent crimes. And I know the mayor doesn't speak for everybody. He didn't get 80% of the vote, but he got about half. And he is very, very happy protecting and hanging out with criminals. So I'm not sure why you disagree with me. Because it seems to me I live in a city and a state where much like Wu in Boston and much like Johnson in Chicago and Newsom and Bass in Los Angeles, that seems to be the trend.

[Katie]

But do you really believe if you went out today and discussed with people on the streets of New York, most people would agree with that?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Depends where you are. If you're in my neighborhood in Rockaway. No. If you're in Nassau County. No. But. But if I walked in Williamsburg or the Upper east side or the upper west side. 100%, maybe they don't, but 100%, they'd be. Yeah, he didn't deserve that.

[Katie]

Yeah, I don't know about that, Sid. I mean, I.

[Sid Rosenberg]

How is there any other explanation that this creep won? I know that Curtis Lee would. Not exactly.

[Katie]

It was a technical verdict. And the defense lawyer, who's a real boy, oh, boy, this guy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, I'm not talking about the verdict. How did this mayor win? And I know that Cuomo and Slee1 Adams. Not exactly about money.

[Katie]

That was about a welfare state, a growing welfare state where people say, look, I don't care about anything else but entitlements. Just give me stuff. And this guy is going to give me stuff, and the other guys aren't. So I want to vote for this guy. Okay, that. That's why he won. It wasn't about his philosophy of life. They don't even know what his philosophy of life is. He's a communist, but they don't even know what communism is. They don't know what that is. So you're talking about an enormous ignorance on the part of a lot of Americans. They don't take the time to understand the system, who's running, what the ultimate goal is. But when I saw that verdict come in, and, you know, we stood outside that church in Mass Week, or you

[Sid Rosenberg]

remember that, well, we actually not only sit outside that church, but me, you, Danielle, Peter King, and Rosemary sat together inside that.

[Katie]

Inside the church. And we saw the pain, and we saw the congregation in Mass Pigwood, and we saw all of it. We were there. And then this is a technicality. And the jury is basically saying, well, don't worry about it. We convicted him out of all it is, so he's not going to get out of prison anyway. Maybe that's true and maybe it isn't. Okay? But the symbolic verdict is, yeah, the lawyer did this, and it wasn't. Maybe he didn't wake up wanting to shoot a cop and all that, but it really doesn't matter because of you and me. We're in the jury room. I think we would have persuaded the others that, look, you had a guy who basically got up in the morning, and maybe he didn't say, I'm going to kill a cop, but he put a gun in his belt.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's the bottom line. If you're leaving your house, and by the way, you've got 21 priors, you're a bad guy. You're a criminal with a loaded gun. There's a chance you're going to use that gun. And as Greg Jarrett said not that long ago, in terms of premeditation and premeditation, there's no time on that. It could even come down to sometimes minutes or seconds. You're a criminal. You leave your house with a loaded gun. To me, that's intent.

[Katie]

And me, too. So now we're back agreeing that we're. We're 12 angry men in the. In the jury room, which was a phenomenal movie.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, it was.

[Katie]

We persuade the others that, okay, why are you Willing to let a technicality override justice. That's a pretty simple question.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It really is. I got like people both details been texting me all morning long that there are people out there that say because of hoco and really Andrew Cuomo, if you want to go to the real culprit here, that this cop, even if he gets whatever he gets. I know the, the, the judge, I know his daughter, his daughter actually ran against Ann Donnelly for DA on Long Island. Nicole. The father, Michael is a pretty well respected big time judge in New York. All the big time lawyers know him and he would be low as the boom on this guy. There's a healthy percentage of New Yorkers that are beautiful because of Cuomo, that cop killers, they get out big time. 44, but out 44. That this guy will do 20 years and he'll be back on the streets. That is a healthy fear in New York this morning.

[Katie]

Well, I don't know about that as all speculation, but I do know justice was not served.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Read. Agreed. And not only. And not for you and I, but like you said, Bill, and you nailed it for Stephanie, right? For Stephanie and Ryan. That's right.

[Katie]

Right. The family. Yeah. So you know, there's no two, there's no two chances here. You murdered. And I believe that's true. A human being who had a baby and a wife and a family. And he went to my local high school, St. Mary's wow. And you. And you murdered him. And now we're, we're discussing whether it should be 40 or 30 or. No. Never again should the guy step out of prison ever.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Do you believe. I don't even know this. I should know this because you're the greatest of them. Were very close, you and I, but I don't know. Do you believe in the death penalty?

[Katie]

No, no, no. Because if I'm in charge, you wish you would get. You see what I'm talking about?

[Sid Rosenberg]

I do. But there's just a part of me and I always go back to the same argument. I don't like the fact that my hard earned money. I get up at 3 o' clock in the morning. I'm very tired. That my hard earned money goes to feeding this guy and clothing this guy.

[Katie]

I mean there's a practicality, but my philosophy is the state and I don't believe in abortion either. The state should not have the right to terminate somebody's life. However you can impose justice. And so if for me I set up a system where the heinous, the most heinous criminals do A life of hard labor. And believe me, you'd want to die.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, I would take that. So is this coming from. You mentioned the state, but for you, Bill o', Roddy, this comes from a more religious place.

[Katie]

You don't believe it is absolutely the doctrine that only the Creator has the moral authority to create a life or end a life.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, that's interesting, because I guess Guy Rivera didn't get that note.

[Katie]

I guess, you know, everybody has their own belief system. I don't disparage people who, you know, it's Holy Thursday, as you pointed out, and Passover. I never disparage people who disagree with me on any of these issues. And in fact, I admire. I admire even Muslims or, you know, Shinto or whoever it may be, as long as you're a good person. The problem that we have now in this country, and you saw it last night with Trump's speech, is that you have an equivocation of what is right and what is wrong. As I said, nobody in their right mind supports Iran having a weapon that could wipe out hundreds of thousands of people. Who in their right mind would support that? I mean, I don't know anybody who does, but they're not willing to take the action to prevent it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, but the detractors aren't talking about that. The detractors aren't.

[Katie]

They would agree because they can't talk about it, Sid.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, they claim that we've been hearing about this nuclear stuff for years and years and years. This is about Israel, it's about oil, it's about money, it's about everything else but nuclear.

[Katie]

Well, then, I mean, I destroy those people on television and radio and I look at them, I go, are you telling me that the Iranian government did not have the capacity enrich uranium? Is that what you're saying they're going to say?

[Sid Rosenberg]

I've been hearing this for a long time. I haven't seen the bomb drop yet. But I know that Bibi's pissed off. I know that.

[Katie]

Well, look, that's just a fifth grade answer, okay? I mean, you look at them and you go, look, when the United nations weapons inspectors say that they're very close to having this device that kill hundreds of thousands of people, and you, because you don't want to pay a buck more, it's a gas pump, or you hate Trump's hair or whatever it is, that you're a neurosis or you're anti

[Sid Rosenberg]

Semite, and you really do believe that we do all this because of Israel.

[Katie]

Yeah, that's paranoid. Delusion and hate. You, the American people right now are in a bad way because of the decline of religion. Not. And here's what religion does. And it doesn't matter what religion it really is, all right? It sets a boundary. This is right and this is wrong. I mean, Moses is running around. He's got a big, long beard. He looks like Charles Neston. He's standing up there with the big tablets. Well, what. Why do you think he had the big tablets? Because somebody had to say, hey, this is what you can do, and this is what you can't do.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That simple.

[Katie]

And then when you have a rising. 30% of Americans now don't believe in anything, okay? They believe nothing. All right? There's no right and no wrong. If I want to lie, cheat, and steal, I can do that because there's no God. So I'm not gonna pay any price for it. So I'm gonna go out and do whatever I want to do. When you have that rise in. There's nothing wrong, okay? I can't, because it's me. If I do it, it's okay. Then anarchy creeps in. That's what I did in San Francisco a couple of weeks ago. That's special is that in San Francisco, they won't enforce the law. So guy can come up and beat the hell out of you, take all your stuff, spit in your kid's face. And the criminal justice apparatus goes, matt, we don't care. We're not going to do anything to the guy. And religion forbids that, okay? Religion says, no, this is what you can't do. And Americans don't want to hear it. And Europeans are worse. They're worse. I mean, they just flounce around going, where? Where's my check? Give me my check. I want my check today. That's all. I don't. I'm not going to church. I'm not going to Senegal. I want a check. Send me money.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, listen, you're right. And that's why I started this conversation with exactly what you just talked about. I served it up to you, and you just sit out of the ballpark. The bigger question, Bill O'Reilly, is how do we fix it?

[Katie]

Well, it's a real tough fix because you have a. You go to Providence, Rhode island, okay? And if you know the history of Providence, it was founded by a preacher, Roger Williams, who. He was tired of being flogged in Massachusetts. Yeah, this flogging thing is a lot of fun. I'm gonna get on my little horse and go somewhere else, okay? Because he didn't buy into the puritan lifestyle. So you in. That's why it's named Providence. And so you go there and it's normal people that live in Providence, you would. They're working class people, a heavy ethnic Italian. All right. And now you got, you know, somebody who wants to honor a crime victim and remind everybody the crime is kind of out of control. And the mayor and the idiot representative go, we can't have that here. So you would think that the people in Providence would rise up and go, no, we're going to have 18 of them, not one. We're all going to paint them now. But it doesn't happen. No, because people are diverted. They're on their phone. They want this.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Also, I got news for you. Providence, Rhode island has become of the more dangerous crime riddled, not cute little Rhode Island. It's not Newport. Okay?

[Katie]

No, no, I know. And it's the same thing in. And it's going to happen in New York. No doubt about it in my mind. If you don't enforce the law, the criminals are going to commit more crimes.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Katie]

Okay, now this is third, fourth grade. Little Lenny goes, that's right. If you don't enforce the law. The third grader knows that. Right. But these people who gain power like mam. Donnie are so out there, they're so far gone. And now we have to pay the price for him being in charge.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, we do. And it's a very, very hefty, hefty price. And it's just getting started. I do want to commend because I beat her up a lot. But I'm also a very fair guy. I think you know that bill, Julie Menon, who's going after him pretty good today about the latest budget. They are not going to allow him to raise property taxes. Nine and a half percent. Julie came out, was very strong on that. So there are days I beat her up and taking pictures with Don Lemon. But on a day like today, I congratulate Julie Menon for fighting back against the mayor. So in the final two minutes, I do this with you all the time because you're a fascinating guy. During Thanksgiving, you'll sit there with Spencer and the kids and you'll read about why that day even exists and what happened with the pilgrims and the Indians and all that good stuff. What is the next three days? Holy Thursday, Good Friday and Easter Sunday look like at the O'Reilly compound?

[Katie]

It's a little chaotic here with people coming in and out. A lot of food. We stole that from our Jewish neighbors,

[Sid Rosenberg]

by the way.

[Katie]

More food than the Irish people.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You also stole about hip. Your religion from us, too. But we're okay with that. We're fine.

[Katie]

We love you more than half. Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right.

[Katie]

So today I gotta go to lunch with a. With a friend that I'm gonna pop into church. And the atoning really starts tomorrow. So I got my little whip, and I'm gonna be hitting myself with the whip. Not really. That's a joke. Okay. But I'll go to. I'll stop in. The Last Supper, by the way, is fascinating. Absolutely. Because he had Judas at the table.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Katie]

And I know most people don't even bother with the Bible, but if you. If you're interested, Judas Iscariot, who was a traitor and handed Jesus over, and this is all true to the temple authorities, he's a star of Holy Thursday because Jesus looked him in the eye and goes, it would be better if you had not been born.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes. Fantastic. The ultimate backstabber Judas.

[Katie]

Right, Right. And. And, you know, a lot of people, they don't even believe Jesus was a man, which is why I. I wrote Killing Jesus, which is a history book. It's not. Not a religious book. And then tomorrow on Good Friday, we can't eat anything, so I'll have a little Special K in the morning, even though I'm. I'm so old that I've. I've outrun that. I. They give the old guys like me a dispensation so I can have some Raisinets.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Okay, good.

[Katie]

Or something. Yeah. And I'll go around midday to church. And then on Holy Saturday, we're going out Tally. And everybody's going. Big tab for me. I'm. I'm already trying to break this down, because when I take my family out for dinner, everybody has appetizers and dessert.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. Sounds like us. Yeah, it sounds like us.

[Katie]

Yeah. Probably the same with you. Yeah, it is the same, O'Reilly. I mean, yes, I. I would like four appetizers, please.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, I did that with you. We go to Peter Lugo together once. You take me to the Peter Luger on Long island once in a while, and I load up on appetizers and dessert. And, you know, you give me the look like, really? I go, yes, Bill, Really?

[Katie]

Yeah. And then on Easter, I'll go to early mass on Easter because there are so many Catholics who don't go to Mass except on Christmas and Easter. That's the only time they go. Yeah. And they're. And they're coughing and they're Falling down. And, you know, they're so. They're jammed in there and like, I gotta. If there's a four in the morning, Mass, I'll go and I'll. I'll offer it up to see it. I go sits up every day I can do. And I. I got tickets for Yankees, Mets in May for you, me and the Urchins.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, wow. Really?

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I'm excited about that. That's awesome. Last time you and I, you took me to a Met game.

[Katie]

We.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It was a great time. We lost. I think every time I go with you, we lose. But we. We ended up having dinner that night with the great actor Matthew Modine and the other great actor, Eric Stoltz. They love you.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Katie]

And I made Modine dress in the full metal jacket helmet.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes, you did. And Stevie Cohen always finds a way. He always finds you. Whenever you in that dining room with me, Steve Cohen always finds you. It's amazing.

[Katie]

It should be a fun night. So just put that down. I think it's the 15th of May. I know you're very busy, and. And no napping this time. Usually Sid, he naps about from the fourth to the sixth inning because he's offered, you know, instead of sleep. Is that possible? You see, it's cost $18,000.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's why. That's because Tong is out there giving up eight runs to the Rangers in the first inning.

[Katie]

Anyway, I want you to enjoy Passover with your family and all the WABC listeners. No matter what you celebrate, try to relax. Things will turn better. I'm very confident that in America, things are going to turn better. We're setting ourselves up, I think, for economic prosperity here. I think Iran is two or three weeks more of this madness, and that'll mean a lot. That'll mean a lot. So I'm taking an optimistic viewpoint here, and I will dress up like Charlton Heston. If you see me, it's not Charleston. He passed. Um, it's me.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Okay. I'm gonna take you up on that, by the way, Bill. So enjoy your Easter with your beautiful family, and they are that. Thank you for the kind words today, and we'll talk again very, very soon. You're the best. You really are the best. I love you. Thank you.

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