O'Round the World - August 9, 2026

Summary

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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: O'Round the World – August 9, 2026
Host: Bill O'Reilly
Notable Guests: Chris Cuomo, Sid Rosenberg, Leland Vitorino
Main Theme:
This episode dives into the intersection of politics, media, and public trust, focusing on Anthony Fauci’s recent Senate hearing, the ongoing polarization within media coverage, the rising influence of progressive politics (particularly the perceived shift toward socialism/communism), and the 2026 political landscape, especially key primary results like Abdul El-Sayed’s Michigan Senate win.

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Main Topics Breakdown

1. Anthony Fauci, The Media, and Public Trust

• Fauci’s Fifth Amendment Testimony:
  • Fauci’s refusal to answer questions before a Senate subcommittee, despite having a pardon, draws skepticism from O’Reilly and guests.
  • O’Reilly suggests this reflects poorly on both Fauci and the media that supported him.
• Media's Handling of the Fauci Story:
  • The panel asserts the mainstream (left-leaning) media covered for Fauci rather than investigating further (04:00–06:00).
  • O’Reilly: “Most of the television media… were big Fauci supporters. They were big government lockdown people and the science of science to science.” (05:30)
  • The narrative: media is complicit in supporting bigger government control, with Fauci as a symbol.
• Comparison with European Responses:
  • O’Reilly notes that while U.S. schools were locked down, European nations with similar or more liberal politics kept schools open based on scientific analysis (06:00–07:00).

2. Media, Power, and Government Overreach

• Symbolism of Fauci:
  • O’Reilly calls Fauci a symbol of the left’s desire for centralized government control:

    “The left loved that, because it took the decision-making out of the hands of the individual and gave it to the state, which is what socialism, communism is all about.” (21:22)

• Corporate Control Over Media Narrative:
  • O’Reilly describes how anchors are pressured by “corporate masters” not to go against the (progressive) network line (22:10–24:00).
• Effect on Public Understanding:
  • O’Reilly expresses concern about the public’s decreasing understanding of civics and government, calling out social media and “dumbing down” via simplified narratives.

3. The Progressive Movement, Socialism, and Democrats

• Bernie Sanders as a ‘Dangerous’ Figure:
  • O’Reilly repeatedly refers to Bernie Sanders as “the most dangerous man in the country” and critiques his embrace of what O’Reilly calls communist or totalitarian principles (25:21, 38:17).
• Universal Childcare and Socialized Medicine:
  • Sanders’ calls for universal childcare are equated by O’Reilly with state indoctrination, likening it to education systems in communist countries.
  • “What universal child care is, is you take the tyke at age 4 or 5, he goes through a system of left wing academia. He comes out… a little replicant running around spouting Bernie Sanders stuff.” (38:54)
• Debate Over Progressivism:
  • Guests debate whether policies like Medicare for All and universal childcare are “totalitarian” or “communist” (15:08–15:26).
  • O’Reilly insists media and political supporters have stopped hiding their collectivist intentions.

4. 2026 Political Landscape: Primaries, Populism, and Public Mood

• Michigan Senate Primary and Abdul El-Sayed:
  • El-Sayed, running on a strongly progressive platform, wins the Democratic primary despite the party’s resistance and is branded by Trump and O'Reilly as a “Jew-hating communist” (45:12–46:42).
  • O’Reilly: “I'm not scared of this guy or the others… but I am afraid of the growing ignorance of the American public… There is a hardcore communist element to the Democratic Party. Again, step out… and just see it, because it is there and it is provable.” (46:42–48:15)
• Republican Prospects:
  • Discussion centers around Donald Trump’s low approval ratings but possible resurgence if U.S. involvement in the Iran conflict wraps up successfully and gas prices drop (09:05–09:52, 17:39–18:28).
  • “If he gets the win in Iran and the lower prices that should follow, that approval rating will go up quickly.” (18:28)
• Voter Cynicism & Populism:
  • O’Reilly describes younger voters as destroyers, cynical about “the system,” interested in blowing things up on both sides (48:40–49:42).
  • “Among the younger voters, they are so cynical and detached… they’re kind of like destroyers… there’s a little bit of that in the Trump vote…” (48:40)

5. Dumbing Down of Public Discourse & Role of Technology

• Social Media and Attention Spans:
  • The hosts lament how news and analysis have been reduced to “three sentences,” with misinformation proliferating among younger and less engaged citizens (27:04–29:34).
  • “75% of the people who write to me… don’t know what is going on in this country.” (27:30)
• Propaganda and Manipulation:
  • O’Reilly ties the rise of “soft collectivism” and media complicity to an uninformed public easily swayed by repetitive messaging.
  • “Just put it out and keep saying it over and over and over and… they're gonna buy it.” (28:44)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Fauci’s Fifth Amendment Testimony:
  • “I'm a little bit surprised he did that. I thought his ego would kind of trump it and he'd want to explain himself…” – Chris Cuomo (01:56)
  • “Didn't matter to the liberal press… most of the television media… were big Fauci supporters. They were big government lockdown people…” – Bill O’Reilly (05:30)
• On Sanders and Progressivism:
  • “Sanders is the most dangerous man in the country.” – O’Reilly (07:30)
  • “The big, giant totalitarian state is what Sanders and his crew want.” – Chris Cuomo (11:20)
• On El-Sayed’s Win in Michigan:
  • “He's another one, another one of these communists, Jew-hating communists winning somewhere in this country. How scary is that for Bill O'Reilly?” – Sid Rosenberg (46:14)
  • “I'm not scared of this guy... but I am afraid of the growing ignorance of the American public.” – O’Reilly (46:42)
• On Why People Vote for Progressives:
  • “There is no free lunch. Yeah. Unless you're a victim.” – O’Reilly (50:58)
  • “The second aspect to the why people vote for Sayeed and Mandami is they're stupid. I'm sorry. I really, I don't want to insult any of Sid's audience, about 30% of whom are stupid.” – O’Reilly (51:58)
• On Public Discourse & Technology:
  • “People are now starting to create their own worlds on their phones and computers. So you don't have to… confront what's true and what isn't true.” – O’Reilly (54:13)

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Detailed Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Topic / Segment | |-----------|-------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:00–02:00 | Opening; Aaron Rodgers and Fauci controversy (Cuomo, sports angle) | | 04:00–07:00 | Fauci’s hearing, media coverage, European school comparison | | 07:00–08:58 | Fauci, Wuhan funding, meaning for media and the left | | 09:05–11:44 | Sanders, socialism, China comparison; polling skepticism | | 12:25–16:48 | Bernie Sanders' soundbite; progressive platform implications | | 17:39–19:39 | Trump, Iran, 2026 election, populism | | 20:00–24:09 | WOR segment: Fauci, media complicity, corporate media control | | 25:06–27:04 | Bernie Sanders’ influence; dangers of progressive power | | 27:04–29:34 | Dumbing down, tech/social media's impact on civic knowledge | | 31:03–39:18 | Michigan Senate primary, progressive vs. moderate Dems | | 39:36–42:53 | Rand Paul vs. Fauci, why liberals support Fauci, ideological divides| | 44:41–46:42 | Trump on El-Sayed, antisemitism accusations | | 48:40–55:21 | Voter cynicism, psychological explanations, free lunch concept | | 55:37–59:43 | Ben Shapiro interview preview, influence of online feuds | | 59:43–end | O'Reilly’s media workload, podcast promotion, closeout |

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Tone and Style

• Direct, combative, and highly opinionated.
• Frequent use of pointed rhetorical questions (“What do you have to do to get through to people?”)
• Use of humor, sarcasm, and kvetching, especially between O’Reilly and Sid Rosenberg.
• Critical of both left-wing media and right-leaning corporate news when it comes to narrative control.
• Strong warnings about democratic “dumbing down” and dangers of collectivism.

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Useful for Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

• Explains why the Fauci hearing became a litmus test for media trust and government skepticism.
• Frames ongoing intra-party battles in the Democrats as a sign of progressive ascendancy, which O’Reilly and guests believe is problematic for America.
• Provides a conservative perspective on 2026 elections, populist sentiment, and voter alienation.
• Paints a picture of the ways technology and media shapes (and corrupts) voter knowledge and attitudes.

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For further analysis, visit BillOReilly.com or listen to the upcoming Ben Shapiro episode for insights from the “right-wing media warfare” world (59:42).

Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

Foreign.

[Chris Cuomo]

You're listening to around the World. Let's begin. So I'm a big football fan. I play college ball and I follow the NFL most of all. And there's a guy named Aaron Rodgers, hall of Fame quarterback. And I think he's like 42 years old. Yeah, 42 years old, and he's still playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So Rogers is a conservative individual. He's a little out there. From time to time, he'll go on these sports chat shows and shake it on up. He's not a wild man, but he is one of the few professional athletes who will speak his mind and gets away with it. There aren't too many hall of Fame quarterbacks floating around. So anyway, Aaron Rodgers, for whatever reason, playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers, now decided to get involved with the Anthony Fauci controversy. Roll the tape like that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Absolute coward Tony Fasser.

[Leland Vitorino]

Absolute coward.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There, it's back.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Are you Kidding me?

[Leland Vitorino]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

111 times you got a pardon and you're in front. And you pleaded over a hundred times at the White House. What are you scared of, Tony? I thought you were the science.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Leland Vitorino]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

I thought you were.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I am science. And you get up there and you can't answer a question.

[Chris Cuomo]

Yeah, what are we doing?

[Sid Rosenberg]

And how much time did the network spend at that. How much time did they spend on my responses every week on my vaccination status on Taylor and Travis's wedd.

[Leland Vitorino]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Did they. Did they do even a minute. Did they do even a minute on Tony Fauci?

[Unidentified Interviewer]

No, I didn't.

[Chris Cuomo]

I don't think I've heard that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I bet they didn't.

[Chris Cuomo]

Yeah, they did, but they covered for him. So when Fauci testified last week front of a Senate subcommittee, he did indeed, as Rogers said, took the Fifth Amendment even though he has a pardon granted by President Biden. But that doesn't matter. Fauci has a right to take the Fifth in any kind of official proceeding. And I'm a little bit surprised he did that. I thought his ego would kind of trumpet and he'd want to explain himself because he wrote stuff in a private diary that was different than what he was telling we the people. So let's have a little explanation here, Anthony. But no, his lawyer said, you're in trouble. Don't make it worse. Don't say anything. And that's what Fauci did. Now back to Aaron Rodgers. I think he reflects the majority of the American public, but not the media. So they covered for Fauci. What does that mean? So A story like that has legs. That means that the initial story breaks and Fauci takes a fifth. And then the press supposedly is to swing into action to figure out exactly what Fauci did, what he said, how he said it, what his involvement was with the Wuhan lab. The press would pick all that up because here's a guy that was in the middle of COVID and now is taking a fifth amendment. So let's find out what he did. Right? That's what the press used to do. No longer. And the reason is that most of the television media and newspapers as well, the tv, CNN networks, you know, Mississippi, whatever it is, they were big Fauci supporters. They were big government lockdown people and the science of science to science. You know, how many times do we hear that was so boring? I was in the middle of that. I got my Covid shot and I didn't get Covid. I don't know what was in the COVID shot. I know that Eli Lilly, a big farmhouse developed it at the behest of President Trump, Operation Warp Speed. And there were enough people outside of Anthony Fauci saying, this is a way to protect you and your family. Now, my daughter got Covid and my son got it. I did not get it. They were vaccinated. So I'm sitting there going, what the deuce is going on? And I don't know. I'm not a chemist. I'm not someone who can analyze a vaccine. A man must know his limitations, as Clint Eastwood once said. However, I thought that people should make up their own minds, particularly when I saw in Europe that the countries there, most of them liberal, were opening the schools because the data, the science, said that Covid is not easily spread among children. So while we were locked down here, the European kids went to school. That is a fact. And that caught my attention. So these countries like Finland and Switzerland, they're not going to put their own kids in danger. All right, so they did their own analysis. They weren't listening to Anthony Fauci. That was purely an American situation. So that was one big thing. And then the other thing about Wuhan and Fauci's involvement, pumping almost $700,000 of tax money into the Wuhan lab before COVID broke out of the Wuhan lab. That was a little sketchy, was it not? Didn't matter to the liberal press. Now why? This is the key question for Aaron Rodgers and everybody else. Why would the left wing press invest itself with Tony Fauci? Remember, Trump brought him out and here's why the progressive movement and arch liberals in the USA believe that we the people aren't smart enough or ethical enough or anything enough to run our own lives. So a giant colossus government has to tell us what to do, when to do it, what we can have, what we can't have, they will provide. This is Mamdani. All day long, the collectivism, the soft collectivism. The government will dictate how we all live. That's what happened in the Revolutionary War. What the king said, that was how the colonists lived. The colonists said, you know why, we have had enough of this. But the communist movement today, I don't care about the king of the Revolutionary War. They want power. And so you are seeing this rise of the Mamdanis, the Bernie Sanders. Sanders is the most dangerous man in the country. Ocasio Cortez and all these other people who are running for office, some of them successfully, okay, they want to call all the shots. That is called totalitarianism. That is what communist leads to everywhere. So Aaron Rodgers may not know all this. He obviously doesn't like Fauci. He stated his case and I'm happy to hear it. Most athletes will not do that because the reign of terror that comes down on them if they oppose the liberal point of view is pretty significant. Looks like Aaron Rodgers doesn't care much. Here's my NewsNation appearance with Leland Vitorino.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

Bill very simply is warning about socialism. Yelling about socialism enough for Republicans gives

[Chris Cuomo]

them an advantage, particularly if the Iran war doesn't get settled. And that's a big one. So if somehow President Trump can pull a victory out of the hat in the Middle east, that will change all the polling. And then he's putting pressure. The president is on the oil companies to drop prices at the pump right now, which they probably will once this Iran thing gets wrapped. So I tell everybody, look, you got three months here, a lot of stuff is going to happen. And if you're buying into dopey polls now, they really are not going to mean much.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

You say dopey polls, so what does mean something right now if it's not how the American people say they feel?

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, it has to do with individual races. So it's a good question you're asking. Most of these polls, if you stack them up against the presidential outcome last time around, were so far off, it was laughable. I use a polling outfit called Atlas out of Brazil, and they were by far and away the most accurate. Anyway, the problem the Democrats have is not a perception, but a reality. So you had Bernie Sanders over the weekend. And Bernie Sanders is a dangerous man. He's dangerous. He is a full fledged communist, totalitarian. So he's running around and his headline in his speeches was that the government the Democratic Party will control, okay, Child care. Now, I went to China a year ago. The Chinese government controls child care. Parents don't have much say in how their children are raised.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay?

[Chris Cuomo]

They don't. The children go to school. They do what the government tells them to do. That is what Bernie Sanders wants to impose on the United States. He'll never come out and say it clearly, but the big, giant totalitarian state is what Sanders and his crew want.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

Bill, I think you're making my point though, right? Because we're gonna pull down a soundbite. We're planning on playing it later in our. On our show from Bernie Sanders about the establishment being out of touch. We're gonna get to that when the control room can bring it to us. But you're making my point. I'm asking you about what Republicans have to run on.

[Chris Cuomo]

And.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

And you're talking about Bernie Sanders and China and your visit over there.

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, that's because that's the big thing Republicans have to run on, okay? That's the big thing.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

So here's Bernie Sanders. Take a listen. And you've heard a lot of people say that if you're not going to just kind of fit in nicely with the Democratic establishment, you shouldn't be a Democrat.

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, maybe the converse is true.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Maybe the Democratic establishment should begin to

[Sid Rosenberg]

understand they are way, way out of touch.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

With where the American people are.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

You and I are in agreement that what Sanders and what others in the Democratic Party are talking about is dangerous. And it is also completely predictable where it ends. Go visit Cuba, go visit Moscow, where Sanders went and honeymooned. Go visit China, whatever you want. We know how socialism ends. My question to you, is this scaring people about what happens if you vote for the other side? Didn't work for Democrats in 2024. People were angry about costs. You and I talked about how angry people were because things cost too much and they felt like Joe Biden and Democrats didn't care about people like them. So why is the same thing going to work for Republicans?

[Chris Cuomo]

I don't know if it will work. I didn't predict it would work. I'm telling you, that's their main issue now.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

American

[Chris Cuomo]

do not want a totalitarian communist government. They don't want it now. Tomorrow night at the election, the nut in Michigan will probably win. But the turnout will be low and it'll be true believers in the socialist communist cause and they'll throw him in. The Republicans are overjoyed with this. As Trump said earlier, they believe Rogers will wax this guy because he's so crazy.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

So you believe that poll.

[Chris Cuomo]

So extreme. And I believe it too. No, I don't believe the poll. I know the state of Michigan, it is a divided state. State. But I don't believe they want communism in that state. I could be wrong.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

No, I think, look, we don't know where this goes, but you're making an excellent point, which is that the American people don't want totalitarianism. They don't want communism. That is really, in effect what a lot of these people say to a certain extent they want. The flip side of that is there is a lot of people who will come back and say Medicaid for all or Medicare for all, single payer health care. Not totalitarian. How about giving credit for people to be able to afford daycare for their kids? Not totalitarian. That the hype from Republicans, the warnings, the dire warnings that you and others are issuing, they just don't see.

[Chris Cuomo]

Oh, I can't make them see what socialized medicine has done to the uk. It's destroyed their medical system.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

That is destroyed. It, it is awful.

[Chris Cuomo]

And we will have in a few weeks on News Nation the proof of that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Okay, I know you went to the.

[Chris Cuomo]

So Great Britain, right? We're going to do a special on News Nation. And Great Britain bought into the universal health care and it's destroyed the quality of health care in Great Britain. They cannot carry it out. And that's a Nation of what, 90 million? And we got 350 here. Oh, come on. And about child. It's not about child care, Leland, okay? That's what Sanders wants, all right? It's about the government telling the children what to think, how to behave, circumventing the traditional parenting. Because the communists know that out in the heartland those people are never going to buy into the communist movement ever get the kids. And it's happened in colleges, American colleges, very fine institutions have collapsed under the weight of progressive politics. So don't say it's not possible. Bernie Sanders has got to be the happiest guy in the country. He never thought he would get this far. He never thought he'd get this far.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

So again, I'm trying to understand where this is gonna show up that you're saying Ohio, Sherrod Brown leads. John Huston, 48, 45. North Carolina, Roy Cooper, 53, Michael Whatley, 44, Texas James Talarico, 45, Ken Paxton, up 40. That is setting up for a situation where the American people are angry and are willing to vote for anybody other than a Republican. You do analysis. Are you saying the only hope that Donald Trump has is wrapping up the war in Iran somehow, which seems unlikely right now given the state of play and that gas prices go down?

[Chris Cuomo]

What has to happen for President Trump and his legacy is a victory over Iran, number one. Number two, lower prices for food and fuel will follow that victory, giving the regular folks some relief, I don't know how much. And then Trump himself, who's going to Michigan tomorrow, is going to have to campaign like hell to get the people's attention that you may not like us, but the other side will destroy your well being. So you think it will.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

So you think Trump with a 35% approval rating is a net positive on the campaign trail in swing states.

[Chris Cuomo]

If he gets the win in Iran and the lower prices that should follow that approval rating will go up quickly

[Unidentified Interviewer]

and then he be and then he becomes a victorious wartime president. Is he intentionally sort of playing along the war in Iran in order to have a victory closer to the midterms?

[Chris Cuomo]

No. If he could get out of that thing now tonight, he would. You know, my words haunt my own words haunt me. So in February, I talked to the president, just him and me, they said this is the biggest gamble you have ever taken in your entire life, messing around with these people. They're irrational. They are like the militants in Japan in World War II, in Germany in World War II. They're not going to surrender is going to be exceedingly difficult. And you can't count on the Persians to overthrow them. So my words haunt me because it's exactly how it came down.

[Unidentified Interviewer]

Yep. And you said those exact same words on this program as well. And now, as you point out, six months in 90 days to go until the midterms. Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much.

[Chris Cuomo]

Here's my weekly appearance with WOR's Marc Simone.

[Podcast Host]

Great podcast. The last episode was Dr. Oz. Fascinating conversation. And I love the two of you talking about Fauci. And we do you think that's it for Fauci? He's in hiding. He hasn't done any TV since those hearings. You think that means he knows?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. His reputation is shot. He's not coming back. The story then advances to who the people were in the media that propped him up and why did they do it? And we have come to the conclusion that the Left wing media, they don't have anything invested in Anthony Fauci. Remember that Trump was the guy who first gave Foushee the forum. But what they do want, and you see that played out tonight in Michigan in and the primary vote there, is that the progressive left, and that is a lot of the mainstream media nowadays. And that's just crazy to me, but it's the way it's evolved in this country. They want a bigger government. They want a government that tells all of us what to do, when to do it, what we can have, what we can't have. And Fauci was a symbol of that.

[Podcast Host]

Ah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you, you've got to stand five feet apart. You can't go to school, you can't go to church. You gotta wear 18 masks, whatever it may be. The left loved that. Loved it, because it took the decision making out of the hands of the individual and gave it to the state, which is what socialism, communism is all about.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah, you're right. So for the first time, the government took total control of everybody's lives. It was a perfect situation. But they loved to build up these gods, create these kings. Fauci, they did it with Cuomo for a while during the pandemic, Governor Cuomo, but they always picked the wrong guy. Don't they realize that?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, they don't. They'll never realize anything. Because this is so fascinating because, you know, you and I think I've been in the business longer than anybody else in New York city, Simone and O'Reilly. So it's a hybrid, and I'll give you a really good example. So when Fauci went in and embarrassed himself, and he did, and the far left that supported him by taking the Fifth Amendment, the next day, the dictum came down from the corporate people who run the networks, okay, we run them. And it said, go light on Fauci. Now, if you're sitting there on any network program and you are an anchor or a pundit and you disobey, you're done, Finished. Okay? So they all step in line. And that includes on the right as well, because this happens in conservative precincts, too.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you cannot defy your masters, your corporate masters, because your paycheck will stop. They'll find a way to get you. And so when you get that kind of a situation where the news presenters, as they call them in Great Britain, are mercenaries, first, mercenaries, then all sense of fairness and looking out for the folks disappears. And that's what has happened across the board, not just with Anthony Fauci, but across the board in this country.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah. I like the idea, though, getting these guys in front of a committee, put them on trial. How about Jack Smith, how about Comey trying that next?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, the embarrassment factor is pretty high. Smith is now the next in line. He'll do the same thing, though. I mean, there's a reason that Biden pardoned all these guys. So the Biden, Biden didn't know what was going on. He didn't even know who they were. But the auto pen or whatever they used to do the pardons, the Biden staff knew, as the Trump staff knows, that once their guy left office that the opposition was going to come after him. So you're going to see when Donald Trump's last few weeks in office, he's going to issue blanket pardons to his family members, to all kinds of people, because. Exactly. He knows that once he's out of there, they're going to come after his machine and he's going to afford them a level of protection, I believe.

[Podcast Host]

Hey, Bill O'Reilly, would you agree that Joe Biden is out of it? Obama kind of hides it. He's not really very public. Would you agree that right now Bernie Sanders is like the leader publicly of the Democratic Party, the strongest voice?

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's the most dangerous man in the country by far. You must be reading my mind or my script, Simone. That's my lead tonight on the no Spin News. That's my lead story that Bernie Sanders, senator from Vermont, little state, who was up until recently considered a crank, a crackpot, is now the leader of the progressive movement in America. He's got to be deliriously happy. He never in his whole life thought this would happen. Sanders never thought that he would get where he is today. He's always been a communist, always. And he came out of Brooklyn like a lot of hippies did. He marched on up to Vermont where it's cheap to live, establish a power base and said, okay, I'll be a communist. Nobody will pay attention to me. All we have up here are cows. And now he is the most powerful person in the Democratic Party. He's a kingmaker. And you know, they say Ocasio, Cortez and all these other nuts, they need him. It's like Trump with the Republican Party. Even now when Trump is kind of wavering and I hope this Iran stuff goes his way, he's still by far the most powerful person in the Republican Party. Bernie Sanders is the most powerful person Democratic Party.

[Podcast Host]

But every time the Democrats go way too far to the left, we've seen it historically. They always lose in the end. So this is not going to end well for them, is it?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't think it will. But I am also very wary of how tech, social media and AI has changed the way Americans, how Americans assimilate information. So it's an, it's in three sentences now, so you don't have to take a course anymore. I mean, the mail I get is stunning. It's absolutely stunning. And I get a lot of it across the board, YouTube and Billo Reilly.com all of that. And it pours in 24, 7. And I gotta tell you, 75% of the people who write to me, and most of them are good people, don't know what is going on in this country. They actually believe that you can prosecute someone for being a communist. Why isn't Bernie Sanders in jail? Why aren't they prosecuted? For what? He's a perfect right to be a communist under our Constitution. They don't know that. And so there's a shift, a profound shift in understanding how the American government works. And that is going to have a real deleterious effect in the future because you're going to be able to con people. You know, Lincoln said you can fool some people some at a time, but not all the time or whatever he said. Well, now you can feel people, younger people in particular, all the time. All the time. Just put it out and keep saying

[Chris Cuomo]

it over and over and over and

[Bill O'Reilly]

they're gonna buy it.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And that's a different scenario. But I don't believe that the American, the average working person wants a big government to live their life for them. I do not believe they do that. And once they get onto the mandamis of the world and the people who are trying desperately to take away individualism, you heard a quote, the brutal individualism next to the cuddly worn feeling of collectivism. Right. And I'm saying to myself, my God, they don't even try to hide it anymore. And they try to hide it. And there are enough people that are putting some of these loons in office.

[Podcast Host]

Well, Bill O'Reilly, we're out of time. But hey, the podcast is great. You should watch Bill O'Reilly's podcast. We'll do it live. Who do you got? You got a new guest coming up

[Bill O'Reilly]

this week, Ben Shapiro.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, very good. Very smart guy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We'll drop him on Thursday. And this is a fascinating story because he's, you know, was once the darling of the right wing on the media and now he's involved in all kinds of warfare. So we get to the bottom of it.

[Podcast Host]

Well, watch that episode. It comes out Thursday, but take a look at all the episodes that are out there. We'll do it live. Bill O'Reilly's podcast. Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.

[Chris Cuomo]

Chris Cuomo and I duke it out on News Nation.

[Leland Vitorino]

Good to have you, bill. Last night, Dr. El Sayed wins in Michigan. His platform becomes this call and response that he does every time he speaks. Get money out of politics, put money in people's pockets, pass Medicare for all. And he says, I am a capitalist and I care about Michigan. And, and he beat the Democratic incumbent that they were pushing on him from the House to run for Senate. He was outspent 8 to 1. He still won. You say he's a gift to Mike Rogers. How?

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, because the Republicans will coalesce around Rogers. There's not going to be a lot of dissent in that party. There will be dissent in the Democratic precincts. Look, politicians say what they want to say. You know that. If you look back at El Said's previous statements about the border, about the police, it's clear the man is a radical progressive. Now whether he's a communist or socialist doesn't matter much to me. He's a danger of my opinion to public safety. I don't care what he says. You can say anything you want if you're a politician. But what he has put out there is certainly as radical as it gets. Open borders. My God, did he not see the Spanish thing?

[Leland Vitorino]

But he says he's not in favor of open borders. He says he's in favor of abolishing ISIS currently constructed because they're violating the law. But I gotta correct the record for the audience, right? Cuz he doesn't say open borders. So when you say open borders, oh my gosh, you know, I don't.

[Sid Rosenberg]

The record is.

[Leland Vitorino]

I don't have to correct what you're saying.

[Chris Cuomo]

No, the record has changed five times.

[Leland Vitorino]

I mean, if that were the basis, there'd be a lot of lawmakers that aren't in office. And I don't know that exchange. I don't do the five times with El Sayed.

[Chris Cuomo]

I don't do.

[Leland Vitorino]

I know you don't. I know you don't because we know why. We know why you don't do it. If I were you either. I know you don't.

[Chris Cuomo]

Okay. And you'd be, and you'd be smart not to because it's an infantile way to analyze the news.

[Leland Vitorino]

No, it's a way to who's the president?

[Chris Cuomo]

As.

[Leland Vitorino]

Go ahead.

[Chris Cuomo]

Okay, now let me make a couple of points. I'll sayed started as a very, very radical person and then he kind of morphed into not so radical, so to say. And take at face value. What he's saying now is a leap of faith, to use a cliche. But it doesn't really matter, does it? Because the Democratic Party, as you pointed out, doesn't like him. They don't want him. They don't want people like him. Whether he's a true radical or not. It is just spoiling the whole Democratic message. So you have to assume, and African American votes will be big on this, you have to assume that the Democratic Party is going to fight among itself while the Republican Party is not. They're going to coalesce around them. They're going to demonize them. They're going to say this is Bernie Sanders light. That's what they'll do. And that will drive people to the poll. Now, who wins? A lot of outside money will come in a lot. And it's up to people to evaluate the histories of Rogers and Al say. That's what you have to evaluate what they have said in the past. Okay. And then make a determination because politicians will tell you anything you want to hear. Cuomo and you know that.

[Leland Vitorino]

Look, I mean, if it were a veracity contest, our elections would come out very differently than they have in the near past. What I'm saying is I don't think that that analysis makes sense in the general. It makes sense in the primary. But now the Democrats. You just saw, everyone who ran against him was standing behind El Sayed. The party says they're fully with him now. And you can see that as hypocritical. You can see that as whatever you wanna see it. But in the general, they have a registration advantage. It's a Democratic seat.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Leland Vitorino]

Peters is abandoning the seat. Right. The sitting senator. And Mike Rogers is not exactly a new and shiny thing. He is a MAGA establishment guy.

[Chris Cuomo]

Look, I don't know much about Rogers, but I do know that the polls, the latest polls say and they've got him either tied or within one of El Said or up. So it's going to be a close race or up.

[Leland Vitorino]

But remember, El Sayed has been getting his ass kicked by his own party. Now that's going to change. Now they're not going to say this anymore.

[Chris Cuomo]

That will continue. That will continue.

[Leland Vitorino]

Why?

[Chris Cuomo]

Because the smart Democrats don't want to be tied to Bernie Sanders. Progressive, communist, socialist, whatever you want to label it, movement. They don't.

[Leland Vitorino]

Well, he says he's a capitalist. But they'd rather lose a Senate loser. They'd rather lose a Senate seat.

[Chris Cuomo]

There's a lot of people gonna stay home. And the African American vote, which I'm studying now, they. Progressives do very poorly even in New York City, and do as well, nearly as well as they thought they would with Mandani. I don't know why exactly, but we're looking at it. But when you have a divided party against a party that is together, that is an advantage for the party that is together.

[Leland Vitorino]

Yeah, I just, I don't know that your assumption is right, but you're right. Being divided is harder than being united. I agree with you. In a bipartisan system, What I'm saying is it's one thing in the primary. Look, we see this all the time, which is in the primary. We hate each other, but then when it's against the other guys, especially in this toxic twosome that our party politics is, we gotta come together. Cuz the last thing we want is, you know, as Democrats would say, is another Trumper, especially in a blue sea. So I don't understand that motivation.

[Chris Cuomo]

Then I will enlighten you.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Please.

[Chris Cuomo]

There hasn't been in my lifetime a movement as radical as a Bernie Sanders led progressive movement. This took me by surprise. Two years ago, if you were to say, hey, there's going to be a big communist element and it's going to get traction. I went, what are you talking about? Albania?

[Leland Vitorino]

Who's a communist? Who's a communist?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Who's a communist?

[Chris Cuomo]

The means of production is what people like Mandami want to control. All you gotta do is look it up, okay? The means of production they wantani.

[Leland Vitorino]

Is the mayor of New York City. He's the mayor of New York City. He has done nothing to take away private property. He's taxing, he's doing other things that he said he was gonna do when he was running. But this socialist thing, let alone communism, there's not a communist country on the face of.

[Chris Cuomo]

No, you don't buy it.

[Leland Vitorino]

It's a boogeyman.

[Chris Cuomo]

It's quite clear you don't buy it. People believe what they want to believe. But he's frozen rents, okay? In New York City, that's the first step. Now he wants grocery stores to undercut other grocery stores. The guy is called classic Marxist person. Yesterday it was amazing because he's the

[Leland Vitorino]

mayor of New York City. He's not the entire party Right. I mean, it's like you can have a guy who is out there and people where he ran wanted him. No, but I'm saying that. Why do you think that that's going to. I know, but why do you think that that will affect all Democratic races? One mayor.

[Chris Cuomo]

Because it's basically a radical movement. When a Bernie Sanders, who's the most dangerous man in the country, he goes out and says, you know, we want to control children. Okay? We want to control children. And you're going, okay.

[Leland Vitorino]

What does that mean?

[Chris Cuomo]

What they do in every communist country. So they want what they Bernie Sanders control. Yeah, he said it yesterday. Universal child care. Okay.

[Leland Vitorino]

Yeah.

[Chris Cuomo]

What universal child care is, is you take the TYKE at age 4 or 5, he goes through a system of left wing academia. He comes out into Columbia University and presto, you've got a little replicant running around spouting Bernie Sanders stuff. If you sound like a red scare

[Leland Vitorino]

guy from 1950, I get your theory of the case. We'll see how it plays out, and we'll see it together. Thank you for being with us.

[Chris Cuomo]

Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio.

[Sid Rosenberg]

So right now, Rand Paul and Ron Johnson and all these guys are on the Hill making this very impassioned argument that they should hold Tony Fauci in contempt for. What do you think happens, if anything, with this Rand Paul attempt?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know, because there's no real reason other than to expose Fauci as a charlatan and a deceiver to chase him around. And, you know, this has been done by Congress. We have so many more important things to deal with here. I think Fauci's through. Although maybe you can tell me this. So I'm looking for advice from Sid, which is never a good thing.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Never.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, I agree. Why? Why are liberal people continuing to stick up for Anthony Fauci? Now, I got my theory, but I'm saying, look, the guy deceived you. Why are you still touting him as some kind of hero? And they do on television. You see it. I'm going, what do you have to do in this country to get through to people that, you know I'm not a good guy, that I did all this because I wanted to be vain? Glorious word of the day. And that's exactly what he wanted to be. And now I'm exposed and I have to embarrass myself and embarrass the government, embarrass everybody. And you're still sticking up for me.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Wait a second. You're Telling me that the same people who will never utter the name Laken Riley or the Thousands. Thousands. That's a real number, Bill, of innocent people slaughtered by illegals in this country. They'll never say that name, but they'll say pretty and good a million times over in their attempt to abolish ice. You mean the same people that refer to President Trump as a Nazi and a pedophile? You mean those people?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Those, yeah, but those. I understand the activism and I understand the viciousness is the same thing.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Same thing, Same thing.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But. But when you are exposed and when you do see before your eyes what a fraud this Fauci was, and then he was delighting in his fraudness, I don't know how you can have supper with Jake Tapper once, Twice.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Twice.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, these get hypnotized. I know, but when you went in there.

[Sid Rosenberg]

But what these people are saying. Because I've got the same curiosity that you've got, and I don't get it either. Okay. What they're saying is there's nothing in those diaries that's incriminating enough to tell you that Fauci was killing people. Was he being dishonest? Sure. Did he love the attention? Sure. But the Republicans, they're taking it a step further, referring to this guy as a murderer. He didn't do that. He was trying to find answers, just like everybody else was during a very scary time. That's what they say. It's pathetic, but that's what they say.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But his own diaries contradict that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Do they? Completely, Almost.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'll give you one very vivid example. So Fauci didn't know what the origin of COVID was. So he consulted, and this is according to his own diary, he consulted about a dozen experts all over the world, and overwhelmingly it came back that this had to be a weaponized virus in Wuhan, China, that somehow wind out with $650,000 of US tax money. Okay? Now, Fauci was told that directly by more than one person. He didn't want that out because he knew that that 650 was going to come back at him. So he continued the charade. No two bats got together in some cave. Oh, come on. So when you have vivid exam, then you go on CNN or wherever, and you have these people sitting around getting paid, say, oh, no, he's not so bad. Yeah, he's bad. He's bad. That's bad. Okay. And the lack of outrage. I think Americans got to stop and step out of this ideology and say, look, when we're hosed we when you screw us on our kids because you're sending kids back to school, you're denying kids school. I should say they don't have to be denied. They're going to school in Germany and Sweden. Okay. Then you have to get angry and leave the ideology on the shelf, you

[Sid Rosenberg]

would think and hope, but they're not. They're actually asking right now the Democrats to table the contempt vote because they don't want to see their good buddy Tony Fauci get into trouble. It really is grotesque. All right, Bill, here it is. This is, in my opinion, the audio of the day. And it speaks to a very, what I think is a very scary story. I probably asked you this before, but it's worth asking again. Let me first play what I believe is the audio of the day. President Trump talking about the latest winner in Michigan.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you do that, you go through

[Chris Cuomo]

squalor and add the word again, filth, crime, death, destruction, embarrassment. You lose your home, you lose your apartment. And that's where the communists will take us 100%. When I watch Abdul, he's full of this guy hates Jews. Somebody said, oh, that's a little strong. No, he hates Jews and he hates Israel. Abdul El Sayed, you believe this Abdul El Sayed, lovely gentleman, he's a man of hate. And now he's going around saying, no, I love everybody.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I love.

[Chris Cuomo]

He doesn't love everybody. Put him in office. You're going to find out what he loves. He doesn't love Israel. He doesn't love Jewish people. He hates them. He hates them with a passion that burns in his heart. And, and there's not a fricking thing

[Bill O'Reilly]

he can do about it.

[Chris Cuomo]

There's not a thing he can do about it because he hates him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

See, that 63 seconds is exactly why I love and adore my friend. He is my friend and yours too. President Trump, a great. But on a bigger note, El Sayed wins and he tells people one story and they buy it. He's another one, another one of these communists, Jew hating communists winning somewhere in this country. How scary is that for Bill O'Reilly?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm not scared of this guy or the others that are under this banner, but I am afraid of the growing ignorance of the American public that really is disturbing. There's a lot of that in my book, Confronting what Has to Change, which is out in September around Danielle's birthday. Okay, that really bothers me because, you know, a guy like say that he's going to lose to Rogers. So he's not Going to be a senator. Rogers will wax him in Michigan because there's just too many questions about this guy. I raised them last night on News Nation. They weren't answered, of course. And there'll be a deflection. No, he's not that bad. No, he's changed his mind. And don't believe any of that. There is a hardcore communist element to the Democratic Party. Again, step out. Step out of your ideology and just see it, because it is there and it is provable. But the American people, the people who voted for usaid, what's wrong with them? That's what really bothers me. What is wrong with you? I'm expecting these crazy people to step up because this is their time. This is their moment. Bernie Sanders, the most deliriously happy person on earth. He never thought he'd get close to the power that he had.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I know. He's just. Well, he did think he ran for president a couple of times and he was actually winning.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Ignored him and laughed.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, and not initially. He actually made some noise in that Hillary Clinton year. But.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, but it was never a serious.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, no, no. I know.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The money. I know you know.

[Sid Rosenberg]

But my question to you is. Answer your own question, if you would, because you're a very smart guy, the smartest guy. I'm not just patronizing. I mean that. Why are these people doing this, these voters?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think there are two things going on here. One is among the younger voters, 35 down in America, that they are so cynical and detached from the system, the political system, they just don't want anything to do with it. So they're kind of like destroyers. They go, okay, if Mandami is going to blow things up, I'll vote for Mandami. There's a little bit of that in the Trump vote because the rank and file, Democrats, Republicans, I should say, they were shocked that so many Republicans dumped Jeb Bush and the others, Cruz and Rubio, and went for a populace with no political experience. But they were fed up. The conservative movement was fed up. They wanted a populist leader. It's the same thing on the other side. They're fed up, and for different reasons.

[Sid Rosenberg]

They're fed up with people like Chuck Schumer. That's what they're fed up.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes. They want free stuff. All right. They don't want to talk about, so do I. All right? And that's what it is. That's why if you took all the free stuff away.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

How many votes you think Van Damme would have gotten?

[Sid Rosenberg]

But listen, and I do get some free stuff because I'm famous and so do you. But on a serious note, you know where I met Danielle? I met her in economics class. It's a true story. You mentioned Danielle's birthday, the next book coming out. I met her in Economics class. In college. I had this wonderful Australian professor. He since died of a brain tumor. And I remember I was half drunk. I was sitting there so many years ago, you know, and the first thing he said, the very first thing he said he wrote on the blackboard was, there is no free lunch. First thing he said, economics class. I would imagine teachers still say the same thing. Or professors, whether it's Michigan or Rutgers or Seton Hall. So that's the first thing you learn in economics 101. Why would these morons who vote for people like El Sayed and Mamdani believe they really can get free stuff?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Because there's another sentence that has been added to that other house. Yeah. There is no free lunch. Yeah. Unless you're a victim.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Ah, that's brilliant, Bill O'Reilly. Brilliant. It's true.

[Bill O'Reilly]

What the Democrat Liberal Progressive movement is, is selling is you don't have a chance. You can't live in a nice house, you can't get a good job because the billionaires are going to prevent it. Some insane thing like that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It is no accident that Bernie Sanders never goes on any forum that would challenge him because he can't answer the questions. All he is is a one trick pony that gets out there and fosters discontent among younger people.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's also living a complete lie because he's the one saying that you should take money on rich people. And Bernie Sanders, if you don't know this, I know most of you do. He's very rich. Very.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. And if you look into how he got rich because his wife brought in the big dough, it's pretty sorted what happened up there in Vermont.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, really?

[Bill O'Reilly]

That was not a legitimate thing.

[Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Bill O'Reilly]

My opinion. Now, the second aspect to the why people vote for Saeed and Mandami is they're stupid. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I really, I don't want to insult any of sid's audience, about 30% of whom are stupid.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Not my, my audience. No, no, not my, My audience didn't vote for Mom, Donnie. I can promise you that. But Cuomo's audience, that I can't promise you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Honestly, the dumb people are at sports radio. But that's true. I walk out. Everybody knows me in the world, not just in the United States. And I'M nice to people. They want a picture or they want me to sign something, I'll be happy to do that. But I always ask them questions about where they're from and, you know, what they do for a living, whatever they may be. And I am. It used to be that cogent answers were easy to get. Now not so easy to get. And then they're, you know, give me,

[Sid Rosenberg]

give me an example, give me an example of this because I find this fascinating. So they woke up. You're Bill O'Reilly. Yeah. And you ask, give me an example of a question you may ask. And now the answer that you're not going to get.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, so I'm walking around out on eastern Long island, where I am right now, and somebody would come up and whatever they, you know, if they're polite and respectful, you know, be happy to. So I'll say to them, what do you do for a living? Mostly men because, you know, women got the little kids and I mean, what do you do for a living? Well, I'm, I'm this first, I work here. I say, you got any trouble meeting your mortgage? You got, you got any trouble feeding your key, you know, now we have food self deficiency, you know, whatever crazy thing it is. And the answer comes across no.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I said, well, then, you know, what, what is the, your friends that vote contrary to you the way you might, why they think they can't get a house or food or what? What's going on? Never an answer.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Never an answer. Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. Right. And it's like a glaze goes over their eyes because people are now starting to create their own worlds on their phones and computers. So you don't have to go into the real world. You don't have to confront what's true and what isn't true. You don't have to seek any knowledge. All you do is hold up the screen and you can then create whatever you want to create.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That is really having a tremendous impact on how the USA votes. And they're susceptible to propaganda. If you don't know anything, you'll buy anything. Right? That's Lincoln. I've said something like that. You'll buy anything, and I don't know. Right. We'll find out. There's enough vehicles where you can take your phone and actually learn something from it. But no, I want to play Terminator 8 or whatever they're doing, and that kind of disturbs me because I'm seeing the population dumbing down.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I see it, too. It's, it's unfortunate, but I see it, too. And not just the games you're talking about. I mean, I podcasts people out there that have no right talking for three or four hours at a time because they're all so stupid and hateful, and they don't really know anything.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They're trying to make money.

[Sid Rosenberg]

They're trying to make money, and they're getting. And they're getting millions of people to buy into their nonsense.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Seriously, for about 20 minutes.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I don't know. I want to see Ben Shapiro.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We're dropping him today.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I love Ben Shapiro. He's great, but he's a bad guy. But he's genocidal. What's wrong with you, Bill? He's genocidal. What's the matter with you?

[Bill O'Reilly]

So Shapiro comes on the program, and I don't live in this world. I don't live in this Internet world, but I'm aware of it, and I know the effect it has on my children, on my friends, and I understand that. So I was having to get Shapiro on so he could define what the deuce he actually does. What do you do? And it's funny, but it's also clarifying. Run down all the feuds. Yeah. Is that a lot feuds? Feuds equate into money.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So I'm running down Candace Owens, I'm running down Tucker Carlson. I'm running down Megyn Kelly. And I'm not disparaging them. I'm saying to Shapiro or what's why fighting with this person. What's the genesis of this? And it's so fascinating to me.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Because again, I don't live in that world.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right, right, right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, you're absolutely right. People get caught up, up to their eyebrows in this.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I know, I know. Now, look, Shapiro takes it a step further because forget about his feuds with Tucker or Candace or those morons. You know that a couple of weeks ago, Iran put out a bunch of pictures and they actually put red bullets, you know, the bullseye in the middle of people's foreheads. It was a couple days before Lindsey Graham died. That's why there was all that controversy. Who really killed Lindsey? And President Trump is on that list. And Laura Loomer and Marco Rubio, not J.D. vance. How about that? But Ben Shapiro is on that list of people that Iran wants to assassinate. So for what it's worth, he's got next level Bill. That's a big deal when a country wants.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Obviously, he's an orthodox Jew who is loyal to Israel.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't see him as a threat. No, no, no. I, I was happy to talk to him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Did he do it here? Did he come up from Boca Raton and do it in your studios?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, we did it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. He's in Florida.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. But, you know, my younger staff members really jazzed to me. I've interviewed everybody in the world except the Pope, who's dodging me. And I keep sending him a letter. Look, I'm really a good Catholic. You gotta give me an interview. But I, I learned a lot from, from Shapiro in the way how things work. Yeah. And what the point of view is. But it has absolutely addicted millions of people all over the world. And when you are side channel by any addiction and you know this better than anybody on the planet.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I do.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You lose all perspective.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yep. It's true. No, you're 100% right. I can't wait to watch Ben Shapiro. He's that Israel first guy like Levin and Rosenberg and all those horrible Jews. You are. Your podcast is great. I get so, I mean, every, every week. Are you doing more than one a week? I feel like I'm seeing faces on there like twice a week.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, we only do one a week. I'm going to be in the grave soon if I don't stop.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, you really do got to take some time off. I know.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. I mean, I'm down doing the no spin news, and that is a news broadcast. So that takes a lot of time. Then we do. We'll do it live and then we do radio commentary for you and 300 other stations. And so I'm saying myself, you know, I'm going to be in a jar. So.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, God forbid. A news nation, too. You're doing TV with Chris Cuomo, too, every week.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, that, that's kind of easy. News Nation makes it easy for me to do that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Although the angst that I have to suffer.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You're the best. Bill O'Reilly, this was another fascinating and great amazing conversation. Seriously. Enjoy the beach.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Enjoy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Take a little time for yourself and we'll do it again next week. I love you. You're great. Thank you so much.

[Chris Cuomo]

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