O'Round the World - July 12, 2026

Summary

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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis – O'Round the World (July 12, 2026)

Host: Bill O'Reilly | Guests: Chris Cuomo, Sid Rosenberg, Mark Simone
Length: ~57 minutes

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on rising accusations of communism in New York City politics, the struggles facing everyday Americans amid economic shifts, and the interplay between national security, foreign policy (with an emphasis on Russia and Iran), and domestic dissatisfaction. O'Reilly uses the appearance and speech of NYC Mayor Mandani as a lens to discuss alleged leftist trends, economic "victimization" culture, and provides broader context through interviews with Chris Cuomo, Sid Rosenberg, and Mark Simone.

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Key Topics and Discussion Points

1. Mayor Mandani's 4th of July Speech and "Communism" in NYC Politics

Segment Start: [00:47]
Discussion:

• O'Reilly describes Mandani as a "full-blown communist," noting his family’s history and ideological leanings ([00:47]).
• Mandani gave an address at George Washington's historic desk one day before the 250th US Independence anniversary, which O'Reilly calls “outrageous” and disrespectful.
• Notable Quote:

  "So the mayor of New York City spits on his own country, literally. A select few have been allowed freedom. There's a select few in a nation of 350 million people... This is how loopy this guy is." (Bill O’Reilly, [03:01])

• O’Reilly claims Mandani is "stoking division" among city residents and painting historical American figures as villains, and draws a direct line from Mandani’s father (an academic from Uganda) to Maoist and Marxist ideology ([04:30]).
• The concept of “victimization” is discussed as O’Reilly claims some city residents now feel entitled to success or government handouts due to socialism-inspired rhetoric ([06:00]).

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2. Debate on Capitalism, Victimhood, and Economic Hardships

Segment Start: [15:08]
Discussion:

• O'Reilly and Cuomo debate whether economic struggle comes down to personal responsibility or systemic barriers.
• Notable Quotes:

  "If you're smart and disciplined, you can participate in the capitalistic system. If you're stupid and lazy, you can't." (Bill O’Reilly, [18:40]) "Boy, I've never heard that as a winning strategy. ...telling them that they're stupid and lazy if they don't have enough money..." (Chris Cuomo, [18:58])

• O'Reilly asserts that “there are plenty of ways” to advance: save 10% from each paycheck, seek community college or night classes, or take on extra jobs ([16:03], [40:08]).
• Cuomo and Sid Rosenberg challenge O’Reilly, pointing out underemployment, stagnant wages, and that many Americans can’t even cover a $1,000 emergency expense ([17:04]).
• The generational divide over wealth-building, investment, and social safety nets is explored, with O’Reilly emphasizing self-sufficiency ([17:26], [52:09]).

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3. NATO, Russia, Iran, and Trump’s Foreign Policy Moves

Segment Start: [08:56]
Discussion:

• Analysis of Trump's stance on NATO funding, US troop presence, and frustrations over European cooperation.
• O'Reilly distinguishes between symbolic and existential support for Putin:

  "It helps him [Putin] symbolically. But Trump is still mad at NATO... If it were me...I'd say, Mr. President, take the win." ([10:50])

• Discussion on Greenland, NATO’s evolving posture, and the consequences for US-Russia relations ([11:36]).
• On Putin’s position, both agree that “cash for oligarchs and generals” is what essentially keeps him in power ([14:53]).
• O'Reilly also differentiates the Iran situation: Trump tried a deal-and-deterioration approach, but with Iranian aggression, the "only option left" is to systematically downgrade the country's infrastructure ([45:26], [47:16]).
• US-European relations and public opinion on ongoing conflicts are discussed as being emotionally driven and politically fraught ([49:58]).

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4. The Rise (and History) of Socialist/Communist Movements in the US

Segment Start: [20:16], [26:39]
Discussion:

• Mark Simone and O'Reilly discuss O'Reilly’s new book and the historical recurrence of leftist movements during economic crises.
• Notable Quote:

  "That’s what aborted that original communist movement. But now it’s back. And it’s back because of high tech. ...that’s capitalism." (Bill O’Reilly, [27:30])

• They revisit the Great Depression and the rise of socialism/communism, pointing out how FDR's New Deal safety nets undercut earlier leftist rises ([26:39]).
• Current surge attributed to economic insecurity, the “affordability crisis,” and a high-tech economy producing huge inequality.

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5. The Affordability Crisis, Personal Responsibility, and Political Messaging

Segment Start: [31:05], [49:58]
Discussion:

• O'Reilly repeatedly positions the lack of financial security as the individual's responsibility:

  "If the economics is overwhelming you...make more money." ([52:10])

• Rosenberg and Cuomo counter that underemployment, wage stagnation, and increased cost of living make O'Reilly’s message out of touch with many Americans’ realities ([35:12], [36:05]).
• The debate on “who is to blame” (individual vs. system) is threaded throughout, with O’Reilly unwavering in his defense of personal discipline and capitalism ([38:38], [52:42]).
• They discuss whether blaming economic hardship on personal failure is a viable political message for Republicans ([38:13], [38:38]).

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6. The Democratic Party, Scandals, and Media Framing

Segment Start: [41:15]
Discussion:

• Sid Rosenberg brings up a primary candidate in Maine embroiled in scandal and accuses Democrats of ignoring issues until electoral prospects are threatened ([41:31]).
• O'Reilly critiques the media’s focus on Trump’s alleged misconduct and laments a landscape in which political debate is reduced to personal attacks ([42:10], [43:03]).

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7. History Lessons and Book Promotion

Segment Start: [20:16], [30:50]
Discussion:

• O'Reilly and Simone discuss O’Reilly's new book “Confronting America,” which retells his face-to-face encounters and personal journey through U.S. historical crises ([20:16], [20:58]).
• Notable anecdotes about war zone journalism and "the face of change in America" ([30:26]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mandani and Communism:

  "He is the divider, because he is saying, hey, you see these people over here? Even the Patriots, even Franklin and Jefferson and Hancock, they are terrible, awful, awful. ... We should have Karl Marx here, because that’s what Mandani’s dad was putting out there." (Bill O’Reilly, [05:30])

• On Wealth and Responsibility:

  "If you’re stupid and lazy, you can’t." (Bill O’Reilly, [18:40])

• On Putin’s Tenure:

  "What is saving Vladimir Putin from death is that he pays his generals and the oligarchs who run his industry billions of dollars." (Bill O’Reilly, [14:54])

• On Republican Messaging:

  "If the Republican Party argues in the midterms that the reason times are tough is because you’re not doing enough to help yourself, they are going to have an epic defeat." (Sid Rosenberg, [38:13])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Mandani & "Communism" in NYC Politics: [00:47]–[08:56]
• US Foreign Policy: Russia, NATO, Iran: [08:56]–[17:01]
• Debate on Capitalism & Personal Responsibility: [15:08]–[20:08], [31:05]–[40:03], [49:58]–[53:34]
• History and O’Reilly’s Book: [20:16]–[29:45], [30:26]
• Democratic Scandal in Maine & Media Critique: [41:15]–[43:34]
• Final Reflections on Iran and Party Politics: [44:20]–[49:58]

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Tone & Style

• The tone is combative, direct, and heavily opinionated, staying true to O'Reilly’s “no spin” promise.
• Exchanges with Cuomo and Rosenberg are rapid-fire and laden with disagreement, but aim to clarify differences in worldview.
• O’Reilly often invokes personal anecdotes (“since I was 10 years old...”), historical references, and forceful rhetorical questions.

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Conclusion

In this episode, O’Reilly uses NYC politics and the figure of Mayor Mandani as an entry point into larger themes of ideological conflict, economic frustration, and the dangers of what he frames as rising victimization and anti-capitalist sentiment. He anchors these discussions in recent news about Russia and Iran, relates them to historical patterns from the Great Depression, and repeatedly returns to themes of personal responsibility, self-sufficiency, and skepticism of both political parties’ messaging.
His guest hosts provide robust challenges, especially on matters of economic hardship and the nuances of underemployment, leading to some of the episode’s most memorable and revealing moments.

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Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

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[Sid Rosenberg]

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[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm Bill O'Reilly. You're listening to around the World. Let's begin. Begin. On the third of July, Mayor Man Donny. A communist. And if you don't believe me, just trace his lineage. Trace his father. Trace it back. He's a. He's a full blown communist, all right. He gives an address at George Washington's desk. Now, Washington was in New York City after he was elected the first president. Then they moved it to Philly. Then they moved it to D.C. the Capitol. But in New York City, he had an office, City hall and a desk. So Mamdani procured that desk in that office to give his speech. Remember, this is one day before the nation celebrated, most of us, the 250th anniversary of our Declaration of Independence. Okay, so Mamdani gets up there and wait. I mean, this is really outrageous. Go.

[Chris Cuomo]

The powerful have always known their answer. America, in their view, is an arena of supremacy where only a select few are allowed freedom. Where not all are created equal. America, if you ask them, becomes less the more people it welcomes. America, they will tell you, belongs only to those with the right accent or the right shade of skin. The rest of us, they insist, should be grateful for merely being allowed to visit how small they are, how weak, how unoriginal. At every moment in our past, those who led through exclusion and isolation have tried to win power and enrich themselves by turning us against one another. Division is the oldest trick in politics and the cheapest. But time and again, including 250 years ago, those forces of division have been vanquished by the forces of progress.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So the mayor of New York City spits on his own country, literally. A select few have been allowed freedom. There's a select few in a nation of 350 million people. And that includes about 20 million undocumented. But only a few of them get freedom. You don't have it watching me right now? Nah, you don't have it. I guess I have a little bit of it, because I can bloviate. But, ma'.

Am.

Donna. No, we don't have it. Unless you have the right accent. I don't know what that means. Boston accent, Philly accent? What?

What?

Or the right shade of skin. Okay? So if you have a bad accent and a darker skin color, they don't have any for you. This is how loopy this guy is. Okay? And then he says the powers that be. And he goes way back to 250, to the convention in Philadelphia. He goes, you know, turned us against one another. Really? Who's turning us against one another? Mayor. Who's really doing that? I believe that's you. I do not believe George Washington sitting behind that desk was turning anybody against one another. He simply led the overthrow of a heinous British king that was denying, really denying colonists rights, taking their money, taking everything he could take out of them. So Mamdani is, as I said, a communist, and he despises the United States of America. Yet he is legitimately elected, and there's nothing anybody can do about it. So the Democratic Party put him on a ticket, and now he's running the big show in New York, and he's got. If he ran again tomorrow against the same crew, he'd win. The. The people who support Mamdani like him. And it's about jealousy. And I think there's an element of rage to it as well. Let me explain. So if you're living in the Bronx or Brooklyn or in a hovel and you don't have anything, and some of that's your fault, some of it isn't. Whatever it may be, each circumstance is different. And then you're seeing people on Park Avenue, riding with their limos, spending $400 on a dinner while you are in the bodega. A little odd jealousy attached to that. Not everybody. There used to be an ethic where if you were poor, you work your way up. I didn't have any money when I came out of college, but I did get to go to college, but I paid for it. No DEI for the Irish guy. I paid, but I knew I had to go. And then when I got out and I didn't have any money, I knew I needed money, so I worked damn hard to get it. That's the pathway of capitalism. Not everybody's like that, okay, going, hey, I'm black, or I'm South Asian or I'm Mexican, and I don't have a chance because my teacher told me that or my mom told me that or my friends told me that. So I'm going to sell drugs because that's the only way I can make money, or I'm going to do whatever it takes to accumulate the money. In addition, I want what the guy on Park Avenue, Scott, and I want Mandami to take it away from the guy on Park Avenue through regulations, which is well underway in New York, and give it to me and my family. I don't want to pay rent. I don't want to pay child care. I don't want to pay for a bus ride. Give me free. That's victimization. That's the mentality, and that is catching on. And Mandani is the guy who is stoking it. He is the divider, because he is saying, hey, you see these people over here? Even the Patriots, even Franklin and Jefferson and Hancock, they are terrible, awful, awful. We should. We should have Karl Marx here, because that is what Mandani's dad was putting out there, who was a college instructor, he was putting out there. Now, they were born in Uganda. That is where they were raised, where there is no hope with the tribalism they have over there. But here, there is an abundance of hope, but Mandami and his crew are trying to obliterate it. Here's my News Nation appearance with Leland Vidder.

[Chris Cuomo]

Is this the time to be strong with bad Vlad or the time to offer him a way out?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I don't know that there is a way out for Putin at this point, because he's done so many horrendous things that they're just not going to let him walk away. And Putin's never going to surrender. He's like the mullahs in that regard. He'll take his own people down. He doesn't care about them, the Russian people. And as you pointed out, they're fighting amongst themselves now. The Russians. And the casualties are horrendous for what? It's never been really defined what this is all about on Putin's end. So I think Trump is basically going to stand on the sideline and watch Putin go down. I think he's going to get involved directly with that. Iran is another story. So Mr. Trump has had enough, had enough, and he gave them more than enough time to be reasonable. We were generous to Iran in our trade deals with them and allowing them to recoup some of the money, and they Attack three ships. Enough, Enough.

[Chris Cuomo]

So you see this as a watershed moment.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know about watershed. I don't know what that means. But he's fed up, and that dovetails right back into NATO. He's fed up with NATO, but here it's a little bit different because he got what he wanted, was painful. But NATO is now putting in a lot of money to their defense. And this hurts Putin, as you pointed out.

[Chris Cuomo]

So you don't see criticism. So you don't see criticizing NATO as helping Putin?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, I do, but not in a existential way. It helps him symbolically. But Trump is still mad at NATO for denying US Aircraft refueling privileges, and he can't get by it. See, if it were me or I was a White House chief of staff, I'd say, Mr. President, take the win. Take the win. So NATO bent to your rules. They're putting in a lot more money than they were, and they're obviously not trying not to make you mad. But then the president injects Greenland.

[Chris Cuomo]

Why we have that sound bite 1. Take a listen.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's what hurt my relationship with NATO. Because Greenland doesn't help Denmark. It was Greenland. That in my. And it continues to be. That should be controlled by the United States, not by Denmark. And when they wouldn't go along with it and with all the money we spend to help them with Russia, and we don't have to spend any money, we could remove all of our soldiers out of Europe.

[Chris Cuomo]

And all that does is make Vladimir Putin think, you know, I could try to provoke something with NATO and it might give me a negotiating leg when it comes to Ukraine. It shows him a playbook, an opportunity to divide the thing that is putting him on the ropes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Then he's a fool, because, again, it's not about NATO and Putin. It's about Putin and his own people. Okay. But I don't understand why Donald Trump had to bring up Greenland today. Take the win.

[Chris Cuomo]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And then maybe next week, do it. Okay. Because if you look at the history of the United States and NATO, the Marshall Plan and all of that, because that ties right in. We're the ones that have been the.

[Chris Cuomo]

We footed the bill, totally the protectors.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And so he's right by saying, look, you lived off us for 50 years and you wouldn't let our planes land when you know how bad this terrorist state is. So I understand and sympathize with the president's frustration, but it's a chess game, and he didn't have to move his king. Okay. He didn't have to move it.

[Chris Cuomo]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He got the big one. So next week we'll go back to Greenland. They're never going to like him over there anyway. They can't wait till he gets out of office. They being the EU and NATO, never going to like him. But if Putin thinks that Putin's going to derive benefit from NATO not liking Trump, he's out of his blanket mind.

[Chris Cuomo]

You wrote Confronting Evil. Putin was on the COVID We did a whole special on him. I thought your analysis of him was great. This is a former KGB guy, Russian military doctrine, the KGB doctrine. What we've always seen from Vladimir Putin is escalate the to de escalate. And you're telling me that Vladimir Putin sees Donald Trump blasting NATO, dumping on NATO, criticizing NATO. He doesn't sit there and say, you know what, I can sort of nibble around the edges here and I will then have something to negotiate with. When? Right now? I don't,

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't see it at all. I don't think NATO, Putin doesn't think

[Chris Cuomo]

Trump is a mark.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I think Putin is basically hoping, and that's not a strategy, that some cataclysmic occurrence will save him. What is saving Vladimir Putin from death is that he pays his generals and the oligarchs who run his industry billions of dollars.

[Chris Cuomo]

And if the money runs out, he

[Bill O'Reilly]

pays them billions of dollars. Okay? That's what's saving him. Not Trump, not any of the NATO countries, none of that. Okay,

[Chris Cuomo]

you brought up cash, which, look, if the cash runs out for the generals and the oligarchs, they get rid of Putin. A lot of Americans think cash is an issue right now. Cuomo pointed out 95% of Americans, 95% say affordability is an issue. Here's you on the no Spin News Soundbite number three.

[Bill O'Reilly]

My portfolio is doing great because Trump is. His policies appeal to the big companies. But 40% of Americans don't participate in capitalism. And a lot of them are yowling about high prices. You get 4% inflation here. Live in the real world. So you younger people, you gotta get into the stock market.

[Chris Cuomo]

That doesn't sound exactly in touch with the folks I know, Bill. Kind of sounds like what Joe Biden used to say. What Donald Trump now says is, hey, don't worry about affordability, don't worry about prices. Stock market's doing great. Eat cake.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Not. Look, just because the stock market is doing great doesn't mean don't worry about high insurance premiums. You can worry about them. But my point is, ever Since I was working at Scranton, Pennsylvania as a young reporter, I put away 10% of my money, okay? If I had to suffer, I suffered and I put away 10%. And then I got a stockbroker and he invested in very conservative companies and Standard Poor's and all of that. And now Trump is set that on a skyrocket.

[Chris Cuomo]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So if you were smart and you understood capitalism, which very few people do,

[Chris Cuomo]

Bill, money can make money. I agree with you, okay? And for people who've invested in the market, it's done wildly well, 47% of

[Bill O'Reilly]

Americans think they have. Why don't we hear that?

[Chris Cuomo]

Hold on. We hear talk about it. Hold on. But 47% of Americans, less than half of Americans indicate they have sufficient liquidity or access to funds to cover a $1000 emergency expense. Flip that around. That means 53% of Americans can't cover a $1000 emergency expense. What money are they supposed to invest in the stock market, Bill?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, number one, whose fault is that? Whose fault is it? They don't have a grand if something goes wrong. Who.

[Chris Cuomo]

So it's their fault for having a hard time.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Underemployed. Get it? It's not about how I having a hard time. It's a matter of options. We live in a country where there's a tremendous amount of options and if you're not doing well, you can do other things. I mean, we.

[Chris Cuomo]

Bill, I remember Jimmy Carter was the one who told everybody to turn the temperature down. That didn't work. You don't tell the. You don't win by telling the American people, hey, do, do buy with less and be happy about it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I'm not a politician, so I don't care about that. What I care about is a lot of friends that. Well, you know, I'll live with it. The fiction that there's a society that is unfair to people who don't have $1,000. That's not true. That you can make the money, but you have to sacrifice for it. Go to community college, go to night school, drive an Uber, do whatever you have to do to build up your resources. We don't hear that. All we hear is the oligarchs of all the money and you can't make it. Bull. I was going to say a bad word. It's bull. If you're smart and disciplined, you can participate in the capitalistic system. If you're stupid and lazy, you can't. There you go.

[Chris Cuomo]

Okay. If you're stupid and look, I guess your segment. But I'm Just thinking to myself in terms of how you win the hearts and minds of the American people, telling them that they're stupid and lazy if they don't have enough money. Boy, I've never heard that as a winning strategy. The Red Deal, Carnegie, it's not there.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. If I were running for office, okay, then I would phrase it differently. But I'm on News Nation and my job is to tell you the truth. That's my job.

[Chris Cuomo]

So the truth, the truth is. The truth is that if you're hurting right now, it's because you're lazy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Not 100%, but there are a lot of younger Americans who are absolutely clueless about how to make money, how to keep money and about the capitalistic system. Every poll shows.

[Chris Cuomo]

Well that's.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, that's why they like the socialism what capitalism is.

[Chris Cuomo]

Well, that's why they like socialism Participation trophy. Yeah. No, that's a point. It's a point about younger Americans for sure. Bill, always fun. It's good to see you. Never boring.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Here's my weekly appearance with Wor's marriage. Mark Simone,

[Mark Simone]

Bill O'Reilly, congratulations. I love the new book.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thank you for reading it. You know, I sent it to five people. This is absolutely true. And I said who do who knows me the best? Because it's a little bit different confronting America. What has to change a little bit different than killing the witches or confronting evil. So because it's based on my face to face encounters throughout my career, I said who knows me? Who could give me an honest assessment of this? So Simone, your name popped up and then you got the first of five copies that went out.

[Mark Simone]

Well, tell us who are the other four? Can you reveal it?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, I can't really reveal it because they'd have to, they'd have to leave the country. They'd be deported.

[Mark Simone]

That's quite a riveting book because it's more it really and it takes it through your journey through war zones, through everywhere through Harvard. It's a fascinating look at the news business and all of that. How long did that. That must have taken longer than your usual books. It's a quite.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. It was a killer for me because I couldn't use researcher on was all as you point out, a personal journey. But I don't think that I was unfair to anyone. I had to keep that in mind because we're talking about Dan Rather, we're talking about Mike Wallace, we're talking about names in the media and in show business, Jack Nicholson, Clint Eastwood and the encounters that I had with them. Some good, some bad. And so I think that people, when they read it, will get a good perspective of where this country is as far as how it's changed. And it has. You know, over the 4th of July, I was cruising around just. And I was happy with the response of the American people, most of whom were very respectful to our nation and our founders. But there were some who weren't. I mean, this Newport, California thing where the antifa all got together to loot the town, I mean, you know, that's the kind of thing that's going to have to be confronted. But what struck me locally was, ma' am, Donnie, he really hates America. I mean, he really does. And you know, you got the guy with the smile and he's up there, he's jumping into fountains or whatever he's doing, but he really despises this country. And when you listen to what he said, I'm going to use it on the nose Bend news tonight. When you really listen, it is so close to Mao Zedong and what Mal believed, it's frightening. And. And I know that Mamdani studied Mao and Stalin and all of these people. And along with his godfather, Bernie Sanders. I mean, these people are out for vengeance, Simone. And I don't think they're gonna win, but, boy, they're gonna try. And to be elected mayor of the nation's largest city is a frightening occurrence when you really understand the guy's psychology.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah, I heard him a couple times use the word decommodify. Housing. Decommodify. That's an actual Karl Marx word.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes. So he is very steeped in that. And it's because of his father. So if you trace him back as we have, because I always want to know why people do what they do. It's not enough for me to know what they do. I want to know why they do it. And if you look back at his father as an academic, his father is the same way. Now, why you would stay here in this country when Mamdani was born in Kenya, okay, if it's so bad, you can go a lot of place. You go back to Nairobi. Okay? But no, they have to come here and try to under underpin our entire system because there are poor people and there will always be poor people. Always. If you read the Bible, the poor will always be with us for one reason or another. But what Mandani and his father are selling is it's the regular folks. The cops, the teachers, all the people. I grew up in Levittown. We're the Problem. We're the problem because we're not compassionate enough or we don't give enough to the folks who don't make it. And that's communism.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah. Now nobody has more poor people. In fact, everybody's poor in Uganda. It's the worst place in the world. That's where he's from. Why doesn't he ever complain about Uganda? Have you ever heard him say a bad word about that? In fact, I think he has a,

[Bill O'Reilly]

you know, thanks for correcting me. I thought it was Kenya, Uganda. They're, they're adjacent countries, but they're the same. The poverty, tribalism, on and on and on and on. I just don't get. Look, I understand power. And part of confronting America is the absolute corruption that occurs when a human being gets power and uses it in a way that harms other people. Nancy Pelosi is a great example of that. Tremendous. Now you can make an argument that Trump might be in that category, but Trump has always had power since he's eight years old. Okay. So it wasn't something new to him. But once Pelosi And Bernie Sanders. And Bernie Sanders is the worst. Okay. Once they tasted that power, ain't no stopping them now. Yeah.

[Mark Simone]

You're America's best selling historian. Has this happened in the past, in America's history where there was a rise in communism on the left? Is this something?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, it happened in the Great Depression in the late 1920s, early 1930s, when people just didn't have enough to eat and so they were lined up to get food and the Hoovervilles and they didn't have anywhere to, they couldn't rent an apartment, they couldn't do anything. So there was a rising socialism communism movement there led by a man named Eugene Debs. Ebs. And it didn't go anywhere because Roosevelt, President Roosevelt saw it coming and then instituted all the entitlement programs. So the, all of the Social Security and the safety nets came in under Roosevelt because Roosevelt said, oh, you know, Hoover screwed it up so bad and we have so many people walking around, they can't make a living and they can't even feed their families. We have to do it. And that's what happened. That's, that's what aborted that original communist movement. But now it's back. And it's back because of high tech. See all these gazillionaires, they made their money inventing things and it's just beginning because AI is going to have another set of billionaires off that and the regular folks aren't going to be inventing what Elon Musk is inventing. Okay? But that's capitalism. If you have a talent, if you have something, an ability that you can market a product that 350 people want, you're going to be a billionaire. But under communism, you could have that same talent. And the government will take away all of the profits that you make. They'll just take it. So you decide what kind of system you want to live under.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah. Before we run out of time, Graham Platner, he's finished, right? We're not going to see him again, are we?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, he's done and should be. And I don't know about this case. I'm looking at my. I'm having my staff look at it now because, remember, this is a, a plague upon the land. Now, the accusation is conviction, no due process. And that's another communist tenet. So if Xi in China says you're guilty, you're guilty. There's no appeal process. That's it. You. You're guilty. He doesn't like you. You're going. Now, Platner is such a bad guy, such a horrendous individual that I'm not even cutting him any slack. All right, for due process, I'm not. But I'd like to know a little bit more about the incident that's going to ruin him, because it will.

[Mark Simone]

No, we're just glad to be rid of him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Hey, we're at.

[Mark Simone]

We're just about out of time. I love the new book. Bill O'Reilly's new book is Confronting America. Can people pre order it now?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, go to bill o'reilly.com and you can pre order. It'll be out September 15th. And, you know, it's coming up fast, and I think people will enjoy it. At least give you a conversational structure about what I've seen. And all of this that I put in the book is absolutely 100% rock solid. True. I didn't have to analyze, I didn't have to investigate. I didn't have to do any of that because I was standing there as the guy pointing the M16 at my head. Yeah, Okay. I mean, I don't need any research on that. If you pull the trigger, I'm dead.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And I said to the guy, I said, periodisa notice bare journalists don't shoot. A kid was maybe 17 maybe. And this was in the Argentine rebellion and against the Falkland defeat. So I'm proud of the book. It's a good way. I don't know if I'm Gonna do any more books or not? But if I don't, it's a good way to go out.

[Mark Simone]

Ah, you got plenty of books, but this is quite a book. You should get it. There's a lot of riveting stuff in there. It's Confronting America, Bill O'Reilly's latest book. Thanks for being with us.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thanks for having me, Mark. Really appreciate it.

[Mark Simone]

All right, take care.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Chris Cuomo and I duke it out on News Nation.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I want to bring Bill O'Reilly in and see how he sees this economy playing out in the midterms. Do you think that this is going to be the main motivational issue come November?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes, I think it will be. Although the communism thing is rapidly obscuring the day to day spending habits of Americans. So the communist thing is very detrimental to the Democratic Party, but what is the communist. Hello? Are you on the planet Earth, ma'?

Am?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, I mean, just, just because Trump calls people who want change communists doesn't mean that it's resonating.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay? If you study the man, he's a communist. So is his father, all right? He wants to control the means of production in New York City. He's going to use regulations to get landlords out of business. He's going to try to control the food flow into the city. So you can sit there and say, I don't believe it. People believe what they want to believe. Man's a hardcore communist. And so are the two others who were.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Listen, my brother ran against him into right and lost twice. The policies he's put in place are barely socialistic, let alone not communistic. And here's what I don't get about the communist thing. One, there is no such thing as a communist country, okay? There is none that is technically communist. You got North Korea, you got Russia, you got China. And the weird thing about those places, the only semblance of affinity I've ever seen is that Trump respects all three leaders.

[Chris Cuomo]

Trump.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Trump thinks that Kim is a strong leader, Putin's a strong leader, and Xi is a strong leader. He's the only guy who said anything

[Bill O'Reilly]

positive about communism that goes day by day because he wants to get a deal with those people. Cuba is probably the best example of a communist country where you cannot do anything without the permission of the government. So, look, we're not going to solve this. I believe that Mandani is a communist. You don't freeze rents across the board unless you want to control where people live. You just don't now the affordability thing. So Trump's point of view is this. Okay? It's tight times for many Americans, but there's only so much the federal government can do about that. And I brought this up with Witter last night. If you have $1,000 and that's all you have, okay, for a medical emergency or your kids in trouble or whatever it may be, if you have a grant and you've been working, what, 10, 15 years someplace, whose fault is that? That's your fault, okay? Because there is a way to accumulate assets in this country that's called capitalism. All right? You accumulate them, and then I give the example. And I think you would buy into this because your neighborhood was fairly close to my neighborhood in New York since I'm 10 years old. I worked, and my father, and one of the pieces of advice he gave me, probably the only one I ever took, was every time you get a paycheck, you save 10% of it. And then you buy into the capitalistic system, buy stocks and bonds. And I have done that. And the stock market, as everybody knows, has enriched a lot of people. Now 58% of Americans have stocked. The rest don't. But again, whose fault is that? So I'm not sure the affordability crisis is the right way to frame this, but I will cede to you that it is an emotional issue, that it's real. People are suffering, and that's not going to help the Republican Party. It will not. But if you want to build assets in this country, you can build them. But if you sit on your butt doing nothing, you can't.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, I see. I think. Look, Bill, I think that's where the road diverges, okay? There's no question that America at its best is a land of opportunity. And if you bust your ass, you can live your own personal dream. However, it has gotten way too hard. Underemployment is the least talked about, most powerful thing in our economy. More people are working harder than they ever have. I'll tell you what it means. And look, that's part of the problem.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know what that is. What's underemployment?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Here's underemployment. Underemployment is unemployment, is who has a job. Underemployment is how good is the job. And more and more Americans are working more hours than for less, working multiple jobs. And they are not getting the wage growth to keep up with prices. So they can't.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Then why don't they do something? Why don't they do something about it? So community college is free across the

[Sid Rosenberg]

World more than ever. They don't have time to go to community college.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They don't have time, okay? They're working multiple jobs.

[Sid Rosenberg]

When you and I grew up in Queens, Bill, one middle class income was enough for a whole family and a pace for homeownership. Now you got parents working at different times, one of the kids.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's a different time now, okay? So community college is free across the board. So if you're not making any money in your job, okay, maybe you want to figure out a better job, get more skills just driving an Uber in New York City, you can pile up some serious cash just driving an automobile. Okay? So I don't know what this underemployment is. I worked at jobs where I wasn't fairly paid, okay? And I got another job because I knew I was getting hosed. Now, one caveat to this. Insurance companies, health care companies, airline companies, oil companies, gouging the all gouging the American people right now. They are using capitalism. Look, the airline industry, their jet fuel costs have dropped significantly, but not their ticket prices. They spend billions of dollars telling you to buy State Farm, paying these people exorbitant amounts of money. And then you a good client, okay? No accidents, no fires in the House. Get a premium renewal that's up 30% with no explanation. Now you're getting it is. No, I've always gotten it, Cuomo, but I'm not a black and white kind of guy. If I'm in a circumstance where I'm underemployed, then I get more credentials to make more money. And you can do that here. Mandami ain't gonna save you. He'll make your life worse.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I think that if the Republican Party argues in the midterms that the reason times are tough is because you're not doing enough to help yourself, they are going to have an epic defeat. Because people are working harder than ever. And the system has made it harder than it ever has been before. And it's about the choices. I don't think you name some of the good fixes. There's some fixes to be added.

[Bill O'Reilly]

History proves you wrong. The Great Depression was far and away okay, the most onerous economic thing that's ever happened. So you can't make that comparison at all. But if the Republicans go out and say, hey, Clyde, the reason you don't have any money is because you're not smart enough to figure out the system and make more, you're right, Clyde. Ain't going to vote for you. But that is especially when a lot

[Sid Rosenberg]

of people were maga. And let me tell you something about that.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't care who they are.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Depression. Let me tell you about the Great Depression. Let me tell you what the big difference was. How did we get out of the Great Depression? Federal government. Federal government.

[Chris Cuomo]

War.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That got us out. It was over.

[Sid Rosenberg]

The war was a catalyst to the economy after the war. And let me tell you, if you stopped Truman as I.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, after the war. No, after the war. It was during the buildup to World War II that the economy turned around in this country.

Fact.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, that is true because that was the New Deal. The New Deal absolutely helped people get out from under it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I know my family was among it.

[Sid Rosenberg]

The New Deal from FDR helped people get out of the Great Depressions, Bill. That's what it is, not an opinion.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm coming to your house and tutoring you on history because you badly need it. The New Deal was a safety net process. It wasn't underemployment. It wasn't giving people free stuff. It was a safety net.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Well, Bill O'Reilly, thank you for giving me your take.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio,

[Sid Rosenberg]

the guy that just won the primary in Maine. You know, he kept going on and on about what he won yesterday. Well, he won nothing. He won the primary. Yes, but he made it sound like he already beat Susan Collins. He was losing. He was losing to Susan Collins. And by the way, that's why the Democrats turned on him. It had nothing to do with rape. They did the same thing with Eric Swalwell. It wasn't until he could have cost them the gubernatorial they decided to turn against him. They, these Democrats have proven time and time again they don't care about women. Sunny Hoston is on the View yesterday saying, I still vote for this guy. Nothing to do with rape. When it became clear he probably was not going to beat Susan Collins, all of a sudden the Democrats went berserk and they kicked him out, not us. The hell was he talking about?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know what he's talking about. I never listened to him one iota. The guy plies oysters out of the bay. I mean, I'm sorry, this isn't John Adams, okay? And then he's got a Nazi tattoo. Now, if you have a Nazi tattoo for 16 years, you're a psycho. Yes. Let me make it real clear, okay? You're not disturbed, you're not misled. You are a psycho.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So everybody knows that. But what is interesting about the Democratic Party now is they're desperate, so they'll probably lose the Senate seat in Maine, which they thought they had. Yeah. All right. And Maine has changed so much. I don't know why. I'm gonna have to go up there and figure it out. Nice state, but they're. They're loons now.

[Sid Rosenberg]

A crazy guy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. Was not qualified. No. He was not going to do anybody any good at all. And so why are you nominating and voting for him? And then you get silence. But the media is another thing. So the, The. They don't know what to do either. They're back in the Democrats, of course, but they, they don't know how to contextualize any of this. So what you get is, well, Trump's a racist, a rapist. That's what you get. That's their primary. Sign on, sign off. Cnn, Mississippi, all the others.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Which, by the way, I wanna remind people, is not true. My dear friend Joseph Tacopina represented Trump in that aging Carol. And it cost George Stephanopoulos $15 million when that moron called him a rapist. He's not a rapist.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Right. And anybody stepping back and looking at the case knows this was a civil suit, it was politically motivated. I mean, when the Attorney General of the state says, hey, if you vote for me, I'm gonna get. All right, do you need any more than that? So anyway, but as you know, the mantra is, oh, you can't criticize the guy in Maine because the president is a rapist.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, right. Sure he is. Now, the President's a lot of things. I know. I see. The president is a lot of things. He ain't a rapist. He, for the most part, is a great guy and a great president, but I've been doing this a lot the last couple of weeks. Iran, he's confused the hell out of me. Turkey, he's confused the hell out of me. The way he treats Mom, Donnie, he's confusing the hell out of me. I know I'm supposed to buy, trust a man, trust the plan, which I've done for the most part of 10 years, and I still do. At the end of the day, let me make it very, very clear. I love him. I think he's the best president. I don't want anybody else in that seat, but at the very least, Bill O'Reilly, at the very least, he's got me asking a lot of questions lately. A lot.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I don't trust any politicians, number one, but I have a unique access to President Trump, who's never lied to me, ever, in 35 years. So I asked him a question, I get an answer, and that's the value that I bring to journalism because I can tell the nation, here's why he's doing what he's doing, here's why. Now you take it or leave it. So in this case with Iran, the miscalculation was we will be able to kill their leadership, which happened, and then the Persians will rise up and they will have a civilized nation. Did not happen.

[Sid Rosenberg]

What can't happen, they're not armed. These people were murdered in the streets, and it did not happen.

[Bill O'Reilly]

If you read Confronting Evil, yeah, I dealt with the Shah's overthrow. Yeah. And that's when the Mullers came in.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Do a general like, it's different. Nobody works, nobody comes out of the house.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Do a lot of things without arms.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. But there didn't seem to me the drive for freedom inside Iran. So some people paid their ultimate price. They were murdered. And that was the message. The most you get out of line, we find out we're going to kill you. And that's a pretty big inhibitor. Okay. But it was part of the war scenario. It did not work. So then the President says, okay, we pivot. And the pivot is we're going to try to make a deal. And Trump is very confident, as you know, in his deal making abilities. And the deal is, we'll give you enough money to start to develop your private industry and feed your people if you just knock it off in Hormuz and let the weapons inspectors go in once a month and monitor what you're doing. Okay? And the Iranians won't take the deal. They won't do it. So now there's only one scenario left. Only one. You have to downgrade the nation so it cannot function. And that's what is underway.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That that has been. And I'm not a genius, okay. But I've been very adamant about this for three months. That has been the only option for three months. Okay, again, Midnight Hammer. Tremendous. We basically wiped out their ability to make that dust with those centrifuges into nuclear war. Okay? So Midnight Hammer. Amazing. Even day one, that Saturday morning, Operation Epic Fury. Very good. We have spent the last couple of months stuck. No matter what President Trump says, we're not winning anything. And that has been our only option. Bill Owale. Because I've only said it 100 times for the last three months. That's it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, now, because the Iranians fired on the three ships, so Trump has gone to hyper plan B. We are Going to downgrade the nation, we're going to blow up their infrastructure. And you see the pictures, you say, but what's interesting about a couple of things, number one, Europe is a little cowed now. So you saw that in Turkey. Yeah. Trump has the press conference by himself. Most of the leaders in Europe making nice to him. You know, Spain suddenly says, oh, yeah, we'll pay our dues now. Okay? So they realize that Trump's got two and a half more years in office. They're cozying up to him. They're not opposing what he's doing in Iran. There's very little NATO opposition to that. But here in America, you got a lot of it. And that's the Democratic Party that senses the affordability issue is going to override knocking out the most dangerous people on the planet. And I say that because they are aggressively, aggressively trying to get a nuclear weapon. And there's no other reason than to cause destruction. Yeah, there's no other reason.

[Sid Rosenberg]

They admit it. They flat out said it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Absolutely.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you know, when I was on Cuomo a couple of weeks ago, he wouldn't admit, oh, they don't have the nukes. And then the Mueller comes down. Yeah, we have them. We need them, because Israel is going to attack us or whatever. You know, it's the same old thing. But the Democratic Party is never going to cede anything to Trump anything, ever. Okay. Whether it's Maine, whether anything. And now they're affordability. Affordability, Affordability. Okay. They believe that's going to override any other issue because people are having trouble paying their bill.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right. But the Republicans are smart. They could make that back buyer on the Democrats and say, hey, yeah, we're with you. Affordability. You're right. Oh, by the way, who caused the affordability crisis? Oh, you guys. Oh, that's right. Remember when Joe Biden was president, inflation was 12%, interest rates were going up half a point every couple of weeks. Eggs or $10. You guys caused it. We're with you. It's all about affordability. You guys put us here. How about that?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, but Americans don't respond to history like that or analysis like that. They go, how much do I have to spend when I'm going into the grocery store?

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's true. You're right. You're right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So you're not looking at, you know, a PhD political science class. You're looking at pure emotion.

[Mark Simone]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So I shook everybody up, Media and News Nation last night when I said, affordability is an interesting word. Whose fault is it? That you, the American Citizen, don't have $1,000 in the bank to pay for a catastrophe. Whose fault is that? And there's silence. I said, do you want the government to assure your income? Is that what you're asking? Because that's what the communists want. All right, you're not going to get much, but they'll assure it. I said, you know, I've been working since I'm 10 years old, since I'm bleeding 10 years old. Shovel and stone, this and that. My father, one of the few times I ever listened to him was, he goes, every dime you have in your pocket, you save 10% of that, you put it in the bank, and then when you get older, you're going to invest it. Which I did. And it sometimes was painful because I wasn't making a lot of money. But then I would work another job. I was a bouncer at Direct Bar, okay, while I was teaching high school. And I knew I wasn't making enough money. I knew that. So I looked for ways to make money, more money. And that's the beauty of America, is there are plenty of ways. There's free community colleges. There are free tech centers that'll train you. What do you have to do? And so I'm putting the onus of the affordability problem on the individual American. If you're not smart enough to figure out you have no money, then we understand why you have no money. All right? I mean, I worked at Carvel. I mean. And today you can make a pile of dough driving an Uber.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Bill O'Reilly]

All right, so there's a responsibility. If the economics is overwhelming you and about. I would say that's about 25, maybe 30% of America. They say they're worried, but overwhelming. That's where you are. Make more money.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah. But then what you're asking Americans to do, and we're bad at this, is be accountable for your own lack of success. It's so much easier to blame the white man or the Jews or Trump.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Of course.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, of course. It's not our fault. You know, that I'm a black guy, and, you know, the whites are keeping me down, and Trump hates me. I'm a gay guy. And I mean, it's. It's. It's tiring. I do want to ask you this on the way out. This has been brilliant, as always. Somebody was telling me this week, you know, Sid, you spend a lot of time talking about communism and Mamdani and the dsa, and you do realize that that makes up a very, very small Percentage of the Democrat Party that most Democrats, the overwhelming amount of Democrats, are not crazy like that. They may not be moderate, but they're not crazy like that. I say, wait a second. I don't care what the number is. They're taking over, and they have plans. If you just heard Laura Loomer, she's 1,000% right. Call it crazy as much as you want, she's 1000% right. So I don't care about the numbers necessarily right now, Bill, because to me, they are the future. What about you?

[Bill O'Reilly]

All of the dictatorial regimes in the last hundred years did not have popular support, so that. That's again, in confronting evil. So the Nazis topped out at about 42%. That's why Hitler dissolved the entire government and made every political party inside Germany illegal except for National Socialism, because he knew he wasn't going to get the mandate of the people. Mao just killed you. Are you Communist? No. Kill him. Stalin did the same thing. Fidelity basically put you in a gulag. All right, so there has never been a popular wave of communism or even socialism. Never. But the history, the lack of understanding, and you don't need the folks anymore when you have George Soros, who's already pumped more than $100 million into the midterms already, and this guy Singh in Shanghai working with the Beijing government, pumping even more money into our system and a compliant media that enables this. Just last night, Cuomo goes, oh, Mandami is not a communist. What? I went, hello?

[Sid Rosenberg]

What?

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's trying to control the methods of production, everything in New York City.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Everything. What did he call him?

[Bill O'Reilly]

What he wants to do. What are you telling me? What is.

[Sid Rosenberg]

What did he call him? Chris?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm looking at him, and Cuomo believes in his heart that Mandami is not a communist.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's a.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Why? Because he wants to believe he's a.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's why.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, I. I would never do that. I don't think Chris Cuomo is a moron.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I think he's a moron.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He doesn't want to believe that Mandani is a communist, even though Mandani. Every move the man has made since the election. Yeah, all right. Has been to control the means of production in New York City, whether it be rent, whether it be food, whether it be transportation, whether it be, you can't have a ped a tear. You got to pay this. You got every blanket move. We, City hall, want to control the means of production, and that's communism, 100%.

[Sid Rosenberg]

There's nothing to argue. I'm sorry. You know, you can't deny it because you, you don't want to believe it. You're a journalist. You're on tv. Well, you're a moron. You're on tv, all right? You got a responsibility to be smarter than that.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And you just laid out, look, Newsom and Pritzker and all of these governors, hopefully you can throw about. Hochul doesn't know what she's doing. She doesn't know where she is half the time. Okay, but you can put them in. They don't care.

[Sid Rosenberg]

True.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They want to win, too. And if they have to pedal affordability, what are you going to do in Illinois? Are you giving everybody a check so they can go into the grocery store and get what they want? Is that what you're doing? You have no money?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Nope. Aye, aye, yai. What a mess. Bill O'Reilly, this was a spectacular conversation, as always. Excellent job, Bill. Thank you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

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