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Bill O'Reilly
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Chris Cuomo
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Newt Gingrich
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Mark Halprin
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I'm Bill O'Reilly. You're listening to around the World. Let's begin. Newt Gingrich still a brilliant man. He may not like his politics or may not like him, but he's brilliant. And Gingrich getting up there now in age, but he's still very, very insightful about what's happening. So many conservative Republicans are very, very worried about the midterms. They're worried the Democrat progressives are going to sweep it. Gingrich has another point of view on it. Roll it.
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Newt Gingrich
If you tell me the price of gasoline on Labor Day, I am pretty confident I can tell you about the election. If the president can get gasoline down somewhere in the $3 range and people begin to feel like it's going to continue to come down, the Republicans will win the largest off year election in modern times. Really? Yes. That's my personal judgment, partially because with the one big beautiful bill last year, the weight of economic growth is going to be so enormous, we'll probably be at 5 or 6% growth by this fall, which means that jobs will be showing up, people will have wages rising faster than inflation, and we will really be back rolling as the arsenal of democracy. The other thing is that the Democrats really have become a party that is, I think, weak and woke and far too liberal.
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Bill O'Reilly
I think that's the biggest factor. I think independent voters know that danger of the progressive movement. And if it's a coin toss or they just don't like Trump or he's annoying them for some reason, or you're paying a little bit more for gas or whatever food, they're going to look and they're going to go, okay, I'm not real happy, but these people are more dangerous. These are my thoughts about people who pay attention. That's a big key now. So you have a whole Subset of American voters who don't know anything. Shocking is shocking. They have no idea. I mean, Jill Biden talk about somebody with a book running around now saying the most outrageous stuff about her husband as president. And you're sitting there and you're going, what, are you kidding me? And of course, the media, which favors the Democratic Party and the progressive left, they don't challenge Jill Biden. You know, Jill Biden actually said in an interview, CBS Morning News, which refuses to book any conservative authors at all, none. So they give Jill a big platform, and I would, too, if I had access to it. But you don't book any conservatives. Come on. Anyway, Jill Biden says when the debate was going on between Trump and Biden about a year ago, that she felt her husband was having a stroke or some malady or collapsing, and it was so bad. Now, if you remember, Joe Biden said that her husband won the debate, did great. This is what her public statement was. And she was the most adamant that Joe Biden not hang it up. Jill Biden was the one who said, don't quit, Joe. So you're scared about your husband's mental capacity, but you don't want him to quit. And now she's saying, oh, he would have won if he stayed in. Yeah, sure. Okay. So you're in a position where voters, and there are voters like you guys, and you wouldn't spend the time watching me if you weren't in this category who know stuff, who remember and see the country fairly clearly. You have the, you know, pod people who live on this, and that's all they do. They don't know anything. And they don't care to know. They don't care to know. So they're susceptible to what Aunt Millie says or what their friend or what their wife says or husband, whatever it may be. That's where the progressives get their strength from the uninformed voter. So Gingrich is making a point that, okay, the Democrats are too woke, too weak, and too liberal for those paying attention. That is true, except for the fanatical far left, because they like it. But there's so many who don't pay attention, and all they're angry about is gas and food. And the final point is, is. And this is a very difficult thing, Most Americans, I'd say 55, 60%, don't have any money. They have no money. I don't know where it goes.
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Chris Cuomo
I don't know.
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Bill O'Reilly
I'm not privy to that. I started at the very bottom. Scranton, Pennsylvania. I was earning less than 10,000 a year. All right? I always had money. You know, I budgeted. I did this, I did that. Most Americans have no money. So when a bad economic wave hits, like higher food prices or other essentials, they panic. I can't pay it. I'm in debt, my credit card debt, whatever it may be, can't pay my insurance premiums. And that's a scandal. Okay? When you're in a panic, then you go, you grab what the first thing is and a Democrats go, we'll get you out of it. If you look at the Democratic platform, there is no platform. They don't have a platform. They don't have a way of lowering any prices. They want to add entitlements. They want to tax more. That's what they want. But the people who don't know anything don't know that. So that's why the midterm election could go either way. Unless, here's the big deal, Trump can get a good situation out of Iran. Iran surrenders, says, okay, come on in, you can use the weapons inspectors to police our uranium pump. Gets that. And then the Hormuz opens up and all that. That'll turn it fast. Okay, and then Gingrich is right. Oil prices will come down and come down fast. Plenty of supply, plenty of supply, oil. And then the food will correspond it not as fast. We still haven't recovered from COVID with the food. So the food companies jacked up everything for Covid. They still haven't dropped those prices. They don't want to drop them. And now they're giving you much less. I got a toothpaste tube. It was like I use it. I brush my teeth eight times and it's gone. What are you doing? Anyway? Gingrich has a pretty good view of the world. And right now, that midterm election's a toss. Here's my News Nation appearance with Leland Vitter.
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Mark Halprin
You warned as Minneapolis was going on that the administration needed to de escalate. And shortly thereafter, Tom Homan came in and said, basically, we're going to leave and move on from this. I feel, though, as this is different, I'm wondering if you agree with me.
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Bill O'Reilly
It's different in the sense that it's better organized in Minneapolis, where the protesters were largely local and were running around thinking that they could make some kind of difference interfering with active ICE investigations, and two of them wound up dead. This is, you pointed out, was a contrived situation out of Portland, Oregon, perhaps the most radical city in the country now. And they bus these People across the country and they house them and they feed them and their orders are disrupt. And I don't believe this will have any effect on Homeland security while the Minnesota situation did. So ICE changed its tactics in Minnesota, as it should have. But I don't believe this will. This is going to just lead to more bitterness and there's a curfew and I expect the New Jersey authorities, dopey governor or not, to enforce the curfew. So I think that's what will happen this evening.
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Mark Halprin
I don't like to be a conspiracy theorist or think ill of our politicians in a cynical way, but for days, Department of Homeland Security begged the New Jersey State Police and the Newark cops to come out and create the buffer zone they are doing now. And the mayor and the governor said, nope, not going to happen. And we saw the images of ice, that's not trained in riot control and cryo control, having to protect their own building from this mob that was trying to break in. Then Sheryl and the Newark governor changed their tune. And you heard Sheryl basically try to make this whole point that if we don't do this, then ICE is going to have an excuse to surge in and ICE is the problem, blah, blah, blah, blah. But still she backed down and said in the state, the state police, who dealt with things pretty directly the past couple of days, what do you think changed politically in her calculation?
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Bill O'Reilly
It's hard to say. Somebody whispered in the governor's ear, if somebody gets killed, somebody dies, it's going to be at your doorstep. But Governor Sherrill is an open border advocate. She's a progressive leftist. The people of New Jersey foolishly elected her. You had two major corporations leave the state of New Jersey just today for Texas and that exodus will continue. So, you know, people get what they vote for. And this is happening all over the country and the red states are prospering because of it. Meanwhile, I think the independent voter, the non ideological voter, as you pointed out, doesn't like any of this. We don't want anarchy. We don't want people funding violent demonstrations. Look, if you want to bring a spotlight onto a facility and say the facility is not what it should be, I'm with you all day long. As long as you're telling the truth. Just stand out there with your sign or whatever you want to do, get on cable tv, not hard, and make your case, okay, that's fine. But if you're going in there hurting other people, whether it be police or just civilians, then I'm not fine with it. And those people should be punished.
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Mark Halprin
But you're making. Yeah, I think you're making the point, though, that for Donald Trump, who is in a tough spot right now, the anarchy that you're talking about, and these are not peaceful protesters. These aren't thousands of people singing We Shall Overcome. These are, as you point out, anarchists. This is objectively, if you think it's good for good with independent voters, this is good for Donald Trump right now.
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Bill O'Reilly
Doesn't hurt him. You have a situation where what's held the Democratic Party back in the last year is the Democratic Party, independent voters don't trust it. They feel that it's full of radicals and progressives control it and violence is acceptable and they don't want to vote for that. So they may not like Donald Trump or the Iranian action or whatever, but they see this as worse. And that's held the Democrats back, no doubt.
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Mark Halprin
Yeah, I would agree with that. Mark Halprin, a journalist you and I both respect, I know he's been on your show, he's certainly been on ours, says that Trump and Republicans are perhaps at odds a little bit with each other right now. Take a listen.
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Sid Rosenberg
All the things the president focus on, putting his picture on, money building, things named after him, lots of buckraking by him and his family, all of these things are driving Republican strategists and candidates on the ballot bonkers. Because right now this is setting up to be a wipeout for the Democratic Party.
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Mark Halprin
Bill, you've been known to say things pretty directly in terms of what you think the president is either doing right or doing wrong. Is it time now for him to speak 100% solely about issues that the American people really feel affects them, number one. And number two, in a way, I'm thinking specifically about the economy that the American people understand. He feels their pain.
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Bill O'Reilly
I think that you'll see that in September as the campaign rolls up. The president will be out campaigning all over the place, and you'll see that kind of rhetoric. Right now he's almost 100% focused on getting a deal that he can prod out to the world to neutralize the Iranian nuke threat. That's far and away what he's doing. And the other stuff he pulled back on the 1.8 billion Lawfare Fund, I knew that was going to happen because the people weren't behind it. Trump is a populist and he goes for issues that people care about. Do they care about the Kennedy center name?
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Chris Cuomo
No.
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Bill O'Reilly
They care about $250 bill? No. So I think that you'll see that pared down and the economy can't really start to ignite until the Iranian situation is. Is settled. Once that's settled, I do expect the prices will go down. Not all of them, but many of them. And the stock market is already at historical highs, at another historical high today. So it's not that far away. It's not a hopeless situation, as Joe Biden's situation was hopeless. He was hopeless. Right. It's not for Trump.
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Mark Halprin
Bill, thank you very much, as always.
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Bill O'Reilly
Here's my weekly appearance with W O R's Mark Simone.
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Mark Simone
The economy's not that bad. I know gas prices are up, but they're still below Biden levels. And all the economic indicators numbers are good. We're growing at 4%.
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah. But here's the equation. Most Americans are in debt, and when you're in debt, you struggle just to pay the bills. And if your bills go up, you get worse in debt. And that's what got people spooked. So they don't have any money to begin with. And they were operating at a level of $3 a gallon for gas. And then food costs they had gotten used to after Covid. But both of those things have spiked and they're angry and they are sinking deeper into debt. And that's the threat to the Republican Party. Yeah.
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Mark Simone
Hey, these Democrats, where do they come up with these characters from Platner to Tolrico? Where do they come up with these people?
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Chris Cuomo
That's a very good question. Doesn't seem to be any vetting going on in the Democratic Party about who is he is qualified to run for Congress or the Senate or even local races. It's not unique to the Democratic Party. I mean, we had Santos out of my district here on Long island, who, you know, the guy was ridiculous. But there seems to be a trend the loudest voice gets the most attention. And these people are progressives beyond control. I mean, Los Angeles, you go there a lot to la?
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Mark Simone
Not anymore. No. It's horrible.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Chris Cuomo
I used to go nearly three times a year. I hate going out there now. And I used to love it. The city is going right down the drain. Worse than New York and Karen Bass, the mayor is going to be reelected. So you look at the voters out in Los Angeles, second largest city in the country, and you go, what's wrong with you? You can see with your own eyes that this woman is destroying your city. And you want that. You think anarchy is good and it's inexplicable that people are voting progressive but if you look at the roster, that's what the Democratic Party is now putting out there. They feel that they have momentum in this area. And, you know, November will tell the country what direction it's going. And no doubt about that. But for now, it's pretty frightening. Yeah.
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Mark Simone
So what does go on in the mind of a Democratic voter? They see It's a disaster, L.A. chicago. And they keep voting for the same party, the same crazies. Why do they do it over and over again?
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Chris Cuomo
You know, it's grand. Hogan. I don't know. But the big money from the unions, there's a lot to do with it. So in Los Angeles, there's a huge union that's back in bass, and they can buy TV spots, tell everybody how great she is, that if you don't vote for her, you're a racist. You know, all is garbage. And also in California, the voting turnout is usually very low. She's not a place like New York where a lot of people are involved in politics and they pay attention. All right. The New York Post had to move out there because there was no local newspaper covering anything in California. Nothing. Zero. Zilch. So the New York Post has now established a beachhead called the California Post. Of course, conservative, but you have a. When you have, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars to buy television spots, and there are a lot of voters who don't know anything. And I mean that quite literally, they don't know anything that you can win with that. Wow.
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Mark Simone
Hey, Bill O'Reilly, you're a basketball fan. Are you going to the Knicks game tomorrow night?
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Chris Cuomo
I'm not going tomorrow night. I don't have the $80,000 that it would cost me to get a seat. It's so crazy. But I'm happy for the Knicks and the city. And if you look at the history of the Knicks, I think it's the first time in 22 years they've been in the Finals. My God, it's like the Mets. So we're, you know, and I don't like this Wembley guy. I don't like the 7 foot 3 guy on San Antonio. He's throwing the elbows around. He's knocking people down. I mean, come on. Some really pulling hard for the Knicks. Yeah.
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Mark Simone
So, yeah. And the president will come to the first time ever an NBA championship president. And I imagine Mom Donnie will be there. Maybe they'll end up talking to each other.
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Chris Cuomo
I don't know if Mandami is going to go because the money is too big and he doesn't Want to be associated with that big money. So anybody going to the Nick game, the playoff games, you let the pony up thousands and thousands of dollars even if you sit in the rafters. And I'm not sure Mandami wants to be in with that crowd. But Trump says he's going to go to game five. Let's see, two, two. He's going to go down the road. He's not going to go to the opening games. Game three, maybe. And he'll get a mixed reception, that's for sure.
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Mark Simone
So, hey, President Trump, that fund to payback people that were victims of weaponized government, the Biden administration, looks like he's going to drop that whole idea. You know this guy's mind better than anybody. You wrote the book on him. What does that mean, that he's going to just drop it? He does give up on things sometimes, doesn't he?
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah, I mean, I, I didn't even cover the story because I knew it was a fable. F, A, B, L, E. I love that word. It never would have gotten out through Congress. And why waste your time when you have, you know, stuff like Iran and Putin is, you know, saber rattling again. I knew that wasn't going to happen. And the President, he enjoys, you know, terrorizing his opposition by throwing this stuff out there. It's a, it's a hobby for him. He likes it and that's why he does it. But there was nobody, no serious person ever thought this was going to happen.
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Unknown Guest
Yeah.
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Mark Simone
Hey, talk about 60 Minutes. For a moment. There's been like a bloodbath cleaning house. 60 Minutes. Apparently they had the meeting with the new boss yesterday and Scott Pelley got up and told the guy off in front of everybody. Will Scott Pelley be there in three months?
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Chris Cuomo
I don't think so. You really can't be as militant as Pelly. You got to understand where he's coming from. So all of this reaction coming out of CBS News, not just 60 Minutes, shows you how dominant the left wing culture was inside that organization. Now, when I worked there under Dan Rather, it was left wing. And I write about that a little bit in my new book, which will be out in September, called Confronting what has to Change. But CBS has always been a left wing network. It's not crazy left like Ms. Or one of those, but the culture is, you know, you better be a liberal or you're not going to get promoted. Now, I don't believe a lot of this reporting that you're seeing comes on the Internet with anonymous source based. But Pelly from the beginning, hates Donald Trump, loathes him. And, you know, you can't, as a journalist go in. You've got to recuse yourself from any story that you're emotionally involved in. And Pelly didn't do that. He used his power in 60 minutes to try to run down Trump, and everybody knows that's true. So now Polly's not gonna be able to do that anymore. And he's not happy about it. Neither are a lot of his cohorts, like, what's her name? The older Leslie Stahl. Leslie Stahl. I mean, and they're not happy about the change. They want to be a left wing network, and it looks like they're not going to be allowed to spout their ideology. And it's cleverly disguised, but it's there. I did a segment last night on this stupid prison story that Sharon Alfonsi did and led to her dismissal. I mean, she didn't recover that. She did not cover that story. Honestly. She did have one person explaining how Homeland Security makes decisions about asylum seekers and why this prison existed in El Salvador in the first place. Not one. I mean, that's, that's ridiculous. All she did was stack the deck. Trump is terrible. Trump is a torturer. Poor kid got deported. He never did anything in his life, which I don't believe. He had tattoos up and down on gang signs. What is that? They come in the middle of the night and force those on him. Yeah, I mean, salt. Look, I know what the game is. I don't believe a lot of the reporting that comes out, particularly when St. Pelly screamed at the guy, at his boss and stuff like that. That doesn't seem like. Well, Pelly was passive aggressive. That's how they all are.
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Mark Simone
Well, it seems there's audio of Pelly. Somebody recorded it, so we haven't heard it, but Axios claims they have the audio, so.
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Chris Cuomo
Well, let's hear it. Yeah.
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Mark Simone
Well, Bill O'Reilly, great talking to you. Glad you're back, everybody. Check out the podcast. We'll do it live. There's a new episode coming out this week, right?
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah. Victor Davis Hanson.
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Mark Simone
Oh, I love him. He's great.
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Chris Cuomo
Oh, yeah, you're going to like this one because we get into the progressive movement, how dangerous it is, and it goes back to your first question to me today. Yeah. So how. How is this happening inside the Democratic Party? And Hanson has a very, very good take on how these progressives have really taken over the party. I just got a plaque from YouTube telling me that I got 2 million subscribers or whatever. So we're real happy it's doing well. I don't live in that world, so I don't know YouTube from TikTok. I don't know what's going on.
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Mark Simone
Oh, it's great. Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.
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Chris Cuomo
Thanks for having me, Mark.
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Bill O'Reilly
Chris Cuomo and I duke it out on News Nation.
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Sid Rosenberg
Bill, help me understand this from your perspective. To me, this is just such a morass. It is such a quagmire what's happening with this regime. And I don't understand why the choice wasn't much more simple. All right, we're going to go in and take them out or we're not. How did we get here?
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Bill O'Reilly
Because in the beginning, Donald Trump thought he could get a deal and accomplish the goals that he wanted to accomplish without killing civilians. And now he's still holding to that because inflation inside Iran is running at 77% and therefore people are having trouble eating and buying a bottle of water. And how long are you going to be able to put up with that?
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Sid Rosenberg
So they're selling everything they have. They're trying to get out. They won't let them out. It's just using that terrible thug force to round people up again.
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Bill O'Reilly
So the US intel is basically saying, look, we can go in and annihilate them and kill thousands of civilians or give it a little bit more time and maybe it'll collapse from within as people don't have anything to eat. And that's where the president is. He's trying to temper it. But something has to happen fairly quickly, I would say, because the American people are losing confidence in the entire endeavor. Whenever you hear the words it's Trump's war, you know, you're dealing with somebody who really has no idea. It's everybody's war. I mean, a nuclear weapon, as Senator Fetterman just said, it's a threat to everybody on the planet. So if you don't think it's a threat, then you're a moron or you're dishonest.
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Sid Rosenberg
Right. But there's only one answer, and it was the only legitimate aspect of him getting out of the jcpoa, which, as you know, I was against. But for exactly this reason, the only way you keep them from getting a nuke bill is by removing the regime. If there was no will for that, and I understand why, and the president's what you state as his motivation is a humanistic one, then there was never, ever going to be any other situation.
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Bill O'Reilly
Not really, because there was optimism that once the frontline mullahs were murdered or killed, whatever word you want to use by the Israeli attack, that the capitulation would be much easier and that the people would rise up as they did under the shah, who was terrible, but not nearly as terrible as the mullahs. You know, Fetterman, I hope he read my book Confronting Evil, because he's quoting from it every other line that you just can't look away from this kind of evil stuff. And Americans certainly are looking away from it. They want it to end. They don't really care how it ends. It wasn't a factor last night in California in a vote there. I don't think it's a factor in Iowa or Maine either. I think it's individual candidates doing what they do. Although in California, I think people are just fed up with the state of the state. But going back to Iran, President Trump is giving it every possible way that the Persian people will rise up and do what has to be done.
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Sid Rosenberg
I look at what's happening with the domestic agenda and the two best ideas, my opinion that came out of the president's mouth evaporated. I want to know why. When he said, you know, these credit card rates, they're way too high. You know, these people are making plenty of money. If they cap them at 10, 11%, I'm gonna get on that. Three days later, it evaporated. Then he said, I'm calling in the health care bigs and they'll listen to me when I call them and I'm gonna bring them in and I'm gonna say, look, you're making too much money, all right? And we're gonna change it with or without you. Do you want to be part of it or not? Two best things he said. Both of them evaporated. Why?
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Bill O'Reilly
I don't know why. And you can add a third. Insurance premiums, not health related, your house, your car, all of that.
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Sid Rosenberg
Sure.
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Bill O'Reilly
There is skyrocketing. There is profiteering going on. There's no doubt the gas companies are profiteering by selling American oil overseas. Most Americans don't know.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yes.
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Bill O'Reilly
I mean, we're exporting even now, as our prices double, we're selling overseas. And quarter by quarter, if you look at BP and the others, they're just making money like crazy. Now, the federal government historically does not intrude on private business. Capitalism. Teddy Roosevelt did and it's what made Teddy's legacy. And I don't know why President Trump hasn't put this on the top shelf. I don't know I do know that Iran is all consuming for him at this point, that he's trying to save his legacy by breaking that country.
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Sid Rosenberg
If I were he, two ideas. One, he's not going after these guys cuz these are the guys who fund the system. It's true on both sides. He just happens to be in power right now and we've never seen it as obvious as this before. But there's only one reason that you say you're going to take people on and then you don't. It's because someone tells you you can't and you listen.
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Bill O'Reilly
I don't buy that. Trump's a marauder. If somebody tells him he can, he's more likely to do it. He's got a lot of things that are taking up his attention. If some of them are not necessary, like the fund to pay people and all that, I knew that was going to go away on day one. So I can't really ascribe a motive that somebody got to Donald Trump. I've never seen that happen. He does what he wants to do. He goes against his advisors sometimes Komohan will shock you. He doesn't even listen to me. How could that possibly happen?
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Sid Rosenberg
I don't know, but maybe he's smarter than I thought he was.
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay, but I said early on you gotta get those insurance companies in line because they're just gutting the working person. And the working person, I mean he
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Sid Rosenberg
look, we're not the only ones who know this bill, so it's gotta be something else. Cuz they are desperate, right, to kind of throw stuff up against the wall to prove to people that they're doing things for him. And then he puts out a tweet or whatever you call it on Truth Social where he tells you the truth. I'm 38 and oh, I'm getting rid of these comedians, I'm getting rid of these pundits. I'm so proud to be working for you. That's what he thinks working for the American people is, is settling political scores.
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Bill O'Reilly
He's a cultural word that are only
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Sid Rosenberg
really meaningful to him.
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Bill O'Reilly
He's a culture word I've heard, no doubt about it. And those are easy to understand issues that resonate with people. So as a populist, he's going to go for those. But I think he can do both. And I'd like to see him take on the big. And I think you will see it because he knows the Republicans know as well that they're going to have to give the American worker and voter some Relief. And it's going to have to be concrete relief because our economy is pretty good, particularly with these refunds coming back out of the big beautiful bill. And then you've got full employment, their jobs are plentiful, and inflation here is only 3.8%. So economy's good, but people don't live or die by numbers. They live or die by what they're putting in their car. And so the Republican Party knows that. And I suspect we're going to see
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Sid Rosenberg
more gas and groceries. Gas and groceries. It is a K shaped economy. The investor class is doing well. The wage working class is struggling, and you have to make a choice about which side you want to benefit. So far, the President's choice, I think, is going to work against him in the midterm. I have breaking news that I want your quick comment on. The White House has just put out that they will officially move on the nomination of Todd Blanche for Attorney General. Doing that right now with the slush fund stuff that he has been forced to own. Do you think he's setting him up to lose in the Senate?
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Bill O'Reilly
No, I think he is being rewarded for doing something that potentially was going to hurt Donald Trump and Blanche backed him off it. Look, Blanche, a tough guy, that's what you need in this job. You don't need Merrick Garland in the job. I like Pam Bondi, but you don't need Pam Bondi, okay? You need a real tough hombre in there to stop the madness. And the madness is on display in California, which is why when you talk to Hilton, the reason that Hilton's even competitive is because of the drug addiction, the crime out of control, the filth, the dirt, the disorder. That's why Steve Hilton is in play. And Blanche is part of that movement. We are going to clean it up. And Trump likes tough guys. He likes them. And that's why Blanche.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah, he likes it as long as they're not tough to him. How can Blanche be seen as cleaning it up when he's okay with what the DOJ is doing and settling all these scores and going after E. Jean Carroll and practicing lawfare and trying to defend the slush fund? Who's he being tough for?
- [36:59]
Bill O'Reilly
Listen, the E. Jean Carroll fraud should be prosecuted. That is the most outrageous story. I've been doing it on billoriley.com all week. It's so outrageous that the woman testifies in a deposition under oath that nobody is helping her. No lawyer is helping her. No pro bono. And then we find out she got $7 million from a what does that
- [37:22]
Sid Rosenberg
have to do with what happened in the changing room in Macy's?
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Bill O'Reilly
Because nobody knows what happened in the changing room.
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Sid Rosenberg
That's she knows.
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Bill O'Reilly
And the jury thinks, if you're gonna do that, then I can't help you. What I can say is.
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Sid Rosenberg
Do what? Respect the administration.
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Bill O'Reilly
Believe that woman. Why would you believe that woman when she doesn't even know what you're doing?
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Sid Rosenberg
The jury listened to it and believed her.
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Bill O'Reilly
The New York City jury, okay. They hate Trump from day one.
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Sid Rosenberg
You either respect the justice system or you don't.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, I don't respect that verdict. And, and I believe that Ms. Carol committed crimes and I'm happy the Justice Department is going after her because she flat out lied about who was funding this lawsuit. $7 million. And she does. And she. Oh, and you know what a lawyer said.
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Sid Rosenberg
So you're in high defense.
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Bill O'Reilly
Memories refreshed now.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah, you're in high. First of all, nobody. Have you ever read through the depositions of Donald Trump?
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Mark Halprin
Okay.
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Sid Rosenberg
And what he has said in deposition.
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Bill O'Reilly
Donald Trump's deposition.
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Sid Rosenberg
Because your standard is polenta. No, it is a mushy stand.
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Bill O'Reilly
My standard is what makes sense. That's my standard.
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Sid Rosenberg
So it makes sense to go after her. Someone that a jury found he assaulted for $7 million. But it doesn't bother you that he is putting hundreds of millions of dollars in his kids pockets? That does not deserve investigation. But the lady who was attacked in the room does.
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Bill O'Reilly
What pocket is this that he's putting? What are you talking about?
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Sid Rosenberg
His sons have acquired interests in multiple businesses that benefit from government contracts in areas they have no clue what they're doing.
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay.
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Sid Rosenberg
They've never been in the business before.
- [39:15]
Bill O'Reilly
I believe that they have no experience is apart from him. And if they're doing something illegal, his sons.
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Sid Rosenberg
Come on. I'm just saying it doesn't bother you, Bill, you'll explain it.
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Bill O'Reilly
I don't know how he got caught.
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Sid Rosenberg
Because it's defending him, that's all. And you're saying what does this have to do with Eugene Carroll? It's corruption. If you care about corruption in one place, you care about it everywhere.
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Bill O'Reilly
You mentioned Carol and it was corrupt. It's one of the biggest corrupt things I've ever seen. And you're throwing out stuff against the Trump sons that has not been adjudicated at all. That's what you're doing. You're convicted on your program. No, you're not.
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Unknown Guest
This.
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Sid Rosenberg
And you said you don't believe what was adjudicated. So something is adjudicated you say you don't exist, but now you're saying they're
- [40:02]
Bill O'Reilly
being wrongfully and there's going to be prosecution. There's going to be. I'll predict it right here.
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Sid Rosenberg
We'll watch.
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Bill O'Reilly
We'll watch.
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Sid Rosenberg
I gotta jump. But Bill, I appreciate you making this.
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay. Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio.
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Chris Cuomo
You've got to have a public safety component. And when you have millions and millions of foreign nationals pouring in, people don't even know who they are or what they're doing, that vanishes, that disappears. So that's what would have happened had Harris beaten Trump. And people have forgotten about that. Now. It's still a major issue because the Democratic Party does not want to. Any constraints on mass migration? None.
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Unknown Guest
Well, that should be the rallying cry for us. Let's assume the worst. Let's assume the worst on the Iran thing is still not over because a lot of people can talk to their blue in the face, including my dear friend President Trump. I'm not convinced this thing is going to be over anytime soon. I'm sorry, I don't see it. I just don't see it. So that's going to hurt us. But if our rallying cry is what you're talking about right now, Bill O'Reilly, then we've got something huge to fight with come November.
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah, but it see, the problem is that people forget and then their personal situations override the emotion of their own lives, override any kind of step back analysis. Now something that no one's talking about that certainly in play is that inflation inside Iran is now about 80%. And this is what President Trump is relying upon. He's not telling us this, but I know it, that you cannot run a country when people can't buy bread, you can't buy food. And with inflation at 80%, 80 because they're starved now economically, the Iranian mullahs, they may be causing trouble, but they can't get products in and out of there. And so the people who live there, the 70 million, mostly Persians, are beginning to starve. And what Trump is doing is he's waiting to see if that will be enough to collapse the government without us going in and killing civilians and bombing the hell out of them. And we've heard that where are right now?
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Unknown Guest
And we've heard that, you know, Larry Kudlow was on this show a couple of days ago. He talked about exactly what you're talking about now. And the guy that's been very honest about that happens to be Scott Bessant that we are literally strangling them. Now, you gave the real number 80%. Those people are starving to death. So, yes, that is Trump's plan. He's hoping that will help cave in the government. We'll see. But that is the plan. You've just nailed it. Bill O'Reilly for folks out there that are saying, what is he waiting for? That's it. And those numbers are true. And those people are starving. So hopefully Trump and Besant are onto something here. I mean, what do you think? I know I ask you this every week, but it is kind of the big story for the Republicans. How much longer do you think this goes on?
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Chris Cuomo
I don't know. And it's irresponsible of me to guess because I don't have the sit reps every morning that are given to President Trump. And Miranda Devine pretty much said the same thing is very hard for journalists to know. For example, this Netanyahu dust up with Trump. Okay, what that was about. And again, this is never reported. All that's reported is Trump cursed at Netanyahu. Well, let me break this to everybody. Trump curses at everybody.
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Mark Simone
Everybody.
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Chris Cuomo
I think you have to be 17 and over to get cursed at. But. And most every president, with the exception maybe of Washington and Lincoln and Jefferson, cursed it. Everybody, of course. Okay. What this was all about was that Trump is adamant that no more aggression is entered into the conflict with Iran until it gets more defined. So it don't want Netanyahu bombing in Lebanon or even Hamas, although they are assassinating Hamas leaders. And I support that. Okay. He doesn't want, he wants them to pull back until his strategy, whatever it may be, unfolds. It's not an unreasonable position. No. So just hold your fire here until we see what we can get. That was the genesis of the phone call.
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Unknown Guest
That's right. That's right.
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Chris Cuomo
Nobody reports it.
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Unknown Guest
No. That's what also just so you know, because you're right about assassinating Hamas leadership. The guy that abducted her, Skoberg, who kind of became the face of the hostages. Everybody knows Rebecca and John Goldberg, he was his arm got blown off inside a one of those bomb shelters and eventually he was executed in a tunnel. They actually found and killed the guy responsible for abducting her Skoberg out of one of those bomb shelters. But just, I know you know this, but that was the conversation. And Bibi said, okay. And then BB afterwards said, we're gonna do what we have to do. So Bibi did not.
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Chris Cuomo
It's not as simple as we're gonna have to do what we have to do. There's a time mechanism on it. Okay? Trump's not saying to Israel, you can't do X. He's saying, wait, give me some room.
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Unknown Guest
Listen to me, listen to me. If Hezbollah. It is. If Hezbollah sends a rocket to Israel. Do you realize that this morning, as you and I are speaking, it is unreasonable and I love Trump. Do you realize, as you and I are speaking right now, right now, that Hezbollah has fired rockets again into Israel? Bibi's not going to take the Scud missiles. Those days are over. So again, we're not getting bombed in Cincinnati, we're not getting bombed in Brooklyn or Los Angeles. So it is unreasonable to ask Bibi to just sit there and take it. Forget about Hezbollah and Israel fighting in Lebanon. They have now this morning sent missiles. These sirens are going off as we speak to Israel. Bibi is not going to sit there. That's not him.
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Chris Cuomo
Okay, but he's got to confer then with the Defense Department of the US to make sure that this thing is done methodically. So these rockets were really fired by Iran. Hezbollah takes his orders from Iran.
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Bill O'Reilly
Correct.
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Chris Cuomo
Okay. And Iran is now doing a, you know, a walk around saying, oh, we're not doing it. The Hezbollahs are doing it. Well, you're, you're telling them to do it, because if you told them not to do it, they couldn't do it.
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Unknown Guest
And they funded them to begin with.
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah, and not only funded them, they give them the ordinance.
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Unknown Guest
Right.
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Chris Cuomo
So it's a very, very complicated thing. But if you are a commander, as Trump is, you have to try to get your strategy in green. And sometimes that causes a restraint order. And World War II is the best example. I'm not going to get into the history of it, but. But Eisenhower was very smart in the way he didn't hit the Germans all at once with Patton and everything. He waited, he fainted, and then he got around them. Now, I don't have a lot of confidence in Pete Hagseth. I said that from the very beginning. I don't. I could be wrong again. I don't get the report. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But at this point, all right, I think Trump still has a grasp of the situation. Certainly we're not losing, but politically, he's taken hell here in the United States, and I don't know how long that will last. I do know the NBA Finals are going to last another 10 days, I can tell you that. Okay. And I'm glad the President's going to the game on money. He needs a little relief and I hope people are respectful at Madison Square Garden.
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Unknown Guest
Well, that was my next question. So he's going to be there Monday and Bruce Blakeman's going to be there. And I was actually going to ask you if you were going to be there. I know you were in the box with President Trump, with Randy Levine at Yankee Stadium last summer. The President is coming back to a Yankee game this year. I can't tell you when, but he's going to be here again. But regardless, you know, there's a lot of liberals in that arena, from Ben Stiller to Spike Lee. How do you think President Trump will be accepted on Monday night?
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Chris Cuomo
I know it'll be a mixed reception, I think, but the, if the Knicks win tomorrow night, the crowd will be more benign. So they'll be sensing that their championship is, is coming quickly.
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Unknown Guest
Right.
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Chris Cuomo
And then the Knicks should win. Because if you watch the game last night. I'm not a sports guy. You know a lot more about sports than I do.
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Unknown Guest
You're pretty good. Stop it. You told me one time about Eli Manning's throwing velocity. Come on, Bill.
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Chris Cuomo
Well, I mean, I played all the games my whole life. When I was a kid, it kept me out of the penitentiary. But if you watch the game closely, and I always do that, I'm not screaming up and down and, you know, drinking Eight Buds, that how I watch boys. What really was interesting is that San Antonio has no answer to Brunson. They can't stop him. So they're gonna have to double team him, which is going to be very difficult for them. But the biggest factor was Wemby. Now, if you think back to the big giants of the past, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Bellamy, Kareem Thurman, big monsters. Yeah, they were all really tough, hard top. They could have been football players. Yeah. And they dominated in close. Wemby does not have that. He is not that kind of player. So he disappears last night for about 15 minutes during that game. He vanishes. Yeah. Where are you? You're not under the basket, you're not shooting. And I think the guy's hurt anyway. And I think that that is going to make it a lot easier for the Knicks going forward.
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Unknown Guest
Think you're right. No one has stopped Brunson. And to your point, that center position has completely changed. Even forget about the big guys. You mentioned Wilt and Russell and Chamberlain and well, that's well, but Kareem, all these guys, even the middle tier centers back then they beat the hell out of you. And they. They played a major role. It's not like that anymore. Now centers bring up the basketball and they shoot threes. It's a weird. It's a weird thing. Although the Knicks towns he is running the offense from down low, doesn't take every shot, but gets the ball to the open man. And since he did that, Mike Brown, starting in game four against Atlanta, the Knicks have not lost a basketball game. Running the offense through his center, the Knicks have now won 12, 12 consecutive games. So now that you're back in the United States between Ireland and England, and one of these days, I got to go on one of these trips with you, they sound like a lot of fun, but now that you're back, what did you miss the most?
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Chris Cuomo
If you missed anything you said.
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Unknown Guest
I see. That's exactly what I wanted you to say.
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Chris Cuomo
You. You know who I'm channeling? Jill Biden. When Joe Biden somehow got loose from his handlers and wandered up to the Stage at the 92nd Y, and everybody goes, where is he? Where is he going? He's like. He's like a little kid. Where's Lenny? Does anybody see Lenny? Oh, there he is. He's up on the stage. Here's a sitting President of the United States, goes up on the stage. Nobody knows he's going up there, including his wife.
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Unknown Guest
Okay.
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Chris Cuomo
And goes, who do you love the most? Okay.
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Unknown Guest
That was weird.
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Chris Cuomo
You could. You can pound Trump all day long.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
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Chris Cuomo
You think the Mullers are afraid of Joe Biden? Okay. Do you love me? I'm sitting there and I'm going. And this guy, Jill, his wife wanted him to run again.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
And she lied.
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Chris Cuomo
Wanted him to be the leader of the free world. And the man can't find the men's room. He has to have directions printed out. He has to have a GPS to go to the head. And this is what she wanted.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
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Unknown Guest
I mean, even after she thought he had a stroke at the debate, she still wanted him to keep running, right? Oh, my God. That wasn't my husband. First she said he had a stroke, then she said somebody drugged him. That's a beauty. And she still wanted him to run, which we should end this conversation with me saying this. That's why Joe Biden. I know it's going to sound crazy, Bill, even from me, but that's why Joe Biden should be arrested today for spousal abuse.
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Chris Cuomo
I don't know, because any be asking the jailers who loves him. And
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Unknown Guest
he is something else. I'm sorry. You could talk about the worst presidents and, you know, you've got him in a list of three.
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Chris Cuomo
I guess he's second worst.
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Unknown Guest
Second worst. And who was the first one again?
- [54:08]
Chris Cuomo
Buchanan caused the Civil War before Lincoln came in.
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Unknown Guest
Right. So Buchanan, then him, and then Jimmy Carter. But he is just. You can make fun of Biden, I think, more than any other president ever.
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Chris Cuomo
You have to or you're gonna cry.
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Bill O'Reilly
Right?
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Unknown Guest
I did miss you last week. I'm really happy you're back. It doesn't matter who we put on. And I think it was Stephen A actually, but there's nobody like you. Bill, thank you so much.
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Chris Cuomo
Thanks for having me, sir.
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Bill O'Reilly
Thank you for joining us. Become a Billorilly.com Premium Member, and I hope you subscribe to my YouTube channel. YouTube.com Billorilly.