Bill O'Reilly (3:32)

Small men wage endless wars because they

Leland Vittert (3:34)

are looking to profit. They believe their privilege and connections will

Bill O'Reilly (3:38)

shelter their own children from the frontline horrors of war.

Leland Vittert (3:41)

But our destinies are tied, Mr. Speaker.

Bill O'Reilly (3:44)

We rise and fall together.

Leland Vittert (3:46)

Trump has no plan of how many lives will be sacrificed before it is enough. We will not tolerate his callous disregard for human life.

Bill O'Reilly (3:54)

End this war now.

Bill O'Reilly (3:56)

Donald Trump is unilaterally dragging this nation

Bill O'Reilly (4:00)

into an illegal and unjustified war with Iran. As someone who survived the horrors of war, I. I know that bombs do

Bill O'Reilly (4:08)

not build peace or create stability.

Bill O'Reilly (4:11)

Military strikes will not make us safer. They will inflame tensions and push the

Bill O'Reilly (4:18)

region further into chaos.

Leland Vittert (4:20)

We should not be here. There were diplomatic options at our disposal that we were pursuing, that we're making progress, that this administration short circuited because they wanted war. We should be focused on problems here at home.

Bill O'Reilly (4:36)

Okay? Now, the ladies are entitled their opinion. Of course. I don't want to be disrespectful, but when you say this will inflame tensions and push the Middle east into chaos. It's already been chaos. I mean, she miss the October 7th Hamas slaughter in Israel? Did she miss the Israeli response? Did she miss Hezbollah and the Houthis? You know, I mean, these people live in a fantasy world, and they're elected officials. The voters cast their ballots for them. To me, it's very distressing, but they're not in the real world. They don't live in this world. You got a country that has openly said, we want to kill all Jews and all Americans. The government says, and they're working on a nuclear weapon. I think you got to take that kind of seriously when their resume is full of mass murder everywhere. So you can't reason with people like this. It all goes back to, we hate Trump. Whatever Trump does, we're going to hate it. So Biden and Biden would never have done this. But if Biden said, look, we have reached our limit with Iran, and remember, Iran broke treaty after treaty after treaty with Presidents Obama and Biden, like, this is the first time around. And, yeah, there were negotiations, but in the last negotiation, the Iranian guy said, look, we're not going to stop our nuclear program. We have a right to do it, and then we're going to do it. This was his opening line after, what, eight, nine sessions? They were getting nowhere. It's like Putin in Ukraine. You know, you come to a point where, okay, you can string it out forever, but there's no progress being made. So the dissent on the part of The Democratic party is almost 100%. These are the radical leftists of the party that I showed you. And we're talking about the 53. But the others remain silent. They don't stand up and say, ho, no, we've got to deal with this Iran because of the nukes. And that's the big thing, okay? Now, Senator Fetterman of Pennsylvania is the only one that I know consistently says, hey, there's a big threat here, and we cannot contain the threat without a regime change. And that's the goal of the Trump administration. The Venezuelan model would take out the top. We run the show. We being the United States, not Israel. Israel is the beneficiary of this because obviously Iran would destroy Israel with a nuke like that. And then they said, we didn't do it. It wasn't us that put that nuclear device in a container. Oh, no, that's not us. The. They get some fanatical Hamas person to do it or whatever. They. And then you'd never be able to prove it. That's the game. It's not really. I shouldn't say game, because catastrophic loss of human life. It's not a matter of if, you know, if you look at history, and again, I hope you read my book, Confronting Evil with the Ayatollah Khomeini on the COVID with Putin, Mao, and Hitler. If you know history and you see a pattern of behavior over decades, decades, and the pattern of behavior is murder is supporting terrorism, and terrorism is murder. That's what they do, okay? Then you either look away as a Democratic Party in America is doing, or you confront as the president is doing. Now, how's it going to turn out? I don't know. I don't know. No one knows. If the regime does change, big win for President Trump goes down in history, okay? If it doesn't, then the Democrats will likely win at least one house in November, which would be catastrophic for the president. But if Mr. Trump does manage to neutralize this government, Democratic Party is toast. So I made some trouble this week, as I usually do, because I branded the younger people in America the earbuds generation. I did that on News Nation with Leland Vitter, and we're talking 18 to 34, okay? And a lot of the folks, the younger Americans, kind of checked out, all right? So they live here, and they live on their little computers, even at coffee shops and other places where they just spend all day doing whatever they want to do. They create their own little world, and they don't know anything. And so when important Things like the Iran military action arise, and they're polled okay. But at the same time, there's another group of 18-34s that are contributing mightily to this country. But first, let's go with the earbud people. Roll the tape.

Leland Vittert (10:13)

What happened to the America, though, that freed Iraq or freed Kuwait from the Iraqis? What happened to the America that believe that we would be safer when there's not some theocratic terrorists who spent the past 47 years chanting, Death to America?

Bill O'Reilly (10:30)

Well, the country's 5,000 miles away. Most Americans couldn't pick it out on a map. The Democratic Party and their sympathizers don't believe that Iran is a threat to the world, even though it is. They refuse to believe it because people believe what they want to believe. And if Biden were attacking Iran, all the Democrats would be in favor of it. We live in a very complicated country, but self sacrifice is not one of America's hallmarks any longer. This isn't the greatest generation now. This is the earbuds generation. This is the I'm on the phone 12 hours a day generation. I don't care what happens anyplace else. I want what I want when I want it. That's the kind of country we live in now, and we often accept that. However, there is another group, though, of 18 to 34Americans, and they're the group that sign up for the military. They volunteer, and they're the group that execute our policies, America's policies, in a tremendous way. So I'm going, how does that happen? So you got bubble people, earbud people here. You got patriotic military people. You don't have to join the military to be patriotic. I'm not saying that. But the level of proficiency of the US Armed forces is staggering. Best in the world by far. And these are younger people, and they're motivated. Boot camp is not easy, particularly if you go into Marines, Special Forces, seals, all that. And yet our recruitment, it wasn't very good under Joe Biden, but now under Trump, it's excellent. So what you have is a split among younger Americans, and it's not unique to this time. It's happened before, but not to the extent that I'm seeing it now. So my parents are part of the greatest generation, probably some of you, too, the same thing. And the greatest generation was labeled that by Tom Brokaw, the former NBC anchor. I believe he came up with that because they slogged through the Great Depression where nobody had anything. Okay. And that was painful. Painful that 10 years of real economic pain. And then World War II, that got us out of the Great Depression because everybody had to work to get all the armaments that we needed to defeat Japan and Germany. And World War II is brutal. I mean, come on, how? And it was a draft, so you didn't have a choice. You had to go. And it was a crazy, crazy four year period for the United States. And we defeated Japan and Germany at great blood and treasure cost. And my father was in the Pacific. Almost everybody I know in the baby boomer generation, their parents contributed to the war effort and they were disciplined and they loved their country. They never doubted it. And they weren't diverted. Television hadn't even started yet. That was after World War II. So those people, my parents and perhaps yours, were very disciplined, focused people. Now the weakness of it is they didn't question a lot of things the government did that was bad, like segregation. It was bad. It was nothing good about it. But the majority of Americans didn't question it because they went along. My country is the greatest and I'm not going to no dissent. So there's a middle ground there, of course. But now we have a generation and here's the polling on it. So this is from npr, it's a liberal organization. How much do you support or oppose the US military action in Iran? This is 18 to 29s support 36 oppose 64. Okay, so 45 and older oppose 52. I don't even believe that number. It's about 50, 50. It's a huge gap. Now when you get older, you mature somewhat and you see a bigger. It's not all about you, not everybody. Some people stay in that selfish state forever. Okay, the second poll is CNN, pretty much same thing. How do you view the U.S. decision to take military action in Japan? 18 to 34, 29 approved, 71 disapproved. Okay, and then that number drops way down for 35 to 49. Only 59% disapproved. And I don't believe the CNN poll anyway. They always skew left. But you can see and a lot of it is immaturity, a lot of it is lack of frame of reference. They don't know they being the bubble people, the earbud people. You know, they don't remember or even link it up that Iran was responsible for October 7th. They fund terrorism. They made the roadside bombs that killed thousands of Americans. They killed 30,000 of their own people this month, you know, or last month. Because the bubble people aren't dialed into that. They're not watching O'Reilly. They're watching TikTok, where people are bouncing up and down or doing whatever they do on TikTok. I'm telling you, that's dangerous. I do believe that the younger people will wise up by necessity because they have to earn a living. They have kids. They have to become more aware. I believe it will happen to most of them. But right now, this younger generation, it's divided. 50% stellar, 50% slacker.

Leland Vittert (17:02)

10 days into this war. You've written books about war. We're only 10 days in. Is it fair to be talking about an end game right now?

Bill O'Reilly (17:10)

Well, the question when is it going to end? Is a dumb question, and I would implore journalists to stop it because nobody knows. So why are you asking a question that has no answer? It's just wasting people's time. The mission itself changed a little bit. So in the beginning, the US Government and Israel were hopeful that the people would rise up in conjunction with the military destruction. And that has not happened. And that has meant that the Pentagon has to basically redefine what a victory is. So regime change is starting to recede in the background.

Leland Vittert (17:56)

Now.

Bill O'Reilly (17:56)

This is not unusual. Students of history and people who have read my book Killing Patton know that in 1945, even though Germans were getting pummeled, okay, they would not turn on Hitler. They would not rise up against him, even in Berlin. And the reason was that the SS shot them dead if there was any sign of rebellion. And we saw that when the Persians tried to demonstrate against the mullahs, 30,000. And we've confirmed that figure. Iranians were killed by their own countrymen. So people are frightened, they're scared to death. And I use that phrase literally to rise up. So it's not likely that that will happen. So therefore, the definition of victory in Iran for the USA and Israel is to destroy every bit, and I mean that literally, of military infrastructure down to pistols if they can. Okay, so wipe that out so they have no chance to ever be on the offense again.

Leland Vittert (19:11)

Yeah, wiping out everything down to pistols is going to take weeks, if not months of bombing a country the size of Alaska. And Alaska is a lot bigger than most Americans think about. I see this slightly differently, although I think there's meeting here that the Iranians were told to stay inside. That was the first thing President Trump did. And he said, when the bombs stop, we'll tell you to go out and protest. That hasn't happened. But the goalposts are changing for a different reason. I think that was really articulated today. You Have a little bit by Laura Ingraham on Fox News. Take a listen. They're going to have to do it

Bill O'Reilly (19:49)

because freedom is costly, right?

Leland Vittert (19:52)

Our soldiers are dying. Our soldiers are dying in this. Israel's citizens are dying. We have more than 100 soldiers wounded, some, some seriously wounded. So like we're, you know, we're paying a big price. So the Iranian people need to stand up. That's the off ramp. Right. Is to say, well, the Iranian people haven't stood up and we're done now and it's legitimate.

Bill O'Reilly (20:16)

So, you know, we saw it in Afghanistan, we saw it in Iraq, that the Bush administration tried to make those countries into functioning democracies and failed. These are people don't want to.

Leland Vittert (20:32)

Bill, come on. These people have been living under a theocratic regime. 30,000 of them were shot and killed trying to rise up. And you're saying because in the first 10 days of bombings, there's not mass protests, even though we'd have no idea if there were because the Internet's still cut off in Iran and somehow they are. The Iranians are the ones who aren't brave enough.

Bill O'Reilly (20:52)

I'm not saying it. I'm just saying the Pentagon assessment has changed.

Bill O'Reilly (20:57)

You agree with me.

Bill O'Reilly (20:58)

The likelihood of an uprising inside Iran is much lower than it was 10 years, 10 days ago. You agree with that assessment? I don't know. I'm not on the ground. I have no idea. But I do know that, that when you have 30,000 Iranians shot dead in the streets, that's going to be an inhibitor, Leland.

Leland Vittert (21:23)

Well, yes, it is an inhibitor. The question is if we owe it to the Iranians. After all, President Trump said help is on the way to stay the course, to continue to destroy Iran's ability not just to project force outside of Iran, but inside of Iran and give the people a chance. There's already provinces that are not ethnically Iranian, not ethnically Shia, that are saying that we want to break away or we want democratic elections and we want the Revolutionary Guard and the theocrats and the mullahs out. Give it some time. No, you're telling me this isn't because Trump now is seeing gas prices and everything else and saying, look, I need a way out.

Bill O'Reilly (22:06)

I think that that's a consideration that the American people don't want to suffer on behalf of the Iranian people. What happened to the jet, they don't want to.

Leland Vittert (22:18)

What happened to the America, though, that freed Iraq or freed Kuwait from the Iraqis? What happened to the America that believe that we would be safer when there's not some theocratic terrorist who spent the past 47 years chanting, Death to America.

Bill O'Reilly (22:35)

Well, the country's 5,000 miles away. Most Americans couldn't pick it out on a map. The Democratic Party and their sympathizers don't believe that Iran is a threat to the world, even though it is. They refuse to believe it because people believe what they want to believe. And if Biden were attacking Iran, all the Democrats would be in favor of it. Biden was never talking about, we live in a very complicated country, but self sacrifice is not one of America's hallmarks any longer. This isn't the greatest generation now. This is the earbuds generation. This is the I'm on the phone 12 hours a day generation. I don't care what happens anyplace else. I want what I want when I want it. That's the kind of country we live in now, and we all have to accept that.

Leland Vittert (23:24)

I like the earbuds generation. That's a new one. I think that's well defined. But really, 10 days or even five days, and everybody's talking about, well, why isn't this over? You've written about war, I think about the first Gulf War. The air war went on for 40 days. Same with shock and awe over Iraq. Thomas Friedman, I think you and I probably share a similar view of him. His disdain for Trump is obvious. It's unhidden. But his column today said this. What if the necessary is impossible? What if the transformation of Iran is so much more important than the war's critics admit, but so much more difficult than the war designers understand? In that if Donald Trump is out there saying it is worth trying to put on the ability or give the Iranians the ability for regime change, that is worth American lives, it's worth the American fight. It's not worth more than 10 days and 18 cents more in gas prices

Bill O'Reilly (24:18)

to some Americans. It's not worth anything.

Leland Vittert (24:22)

Well, I'm not asking about Americans. I'm asking about the President of the United States. That's why he sits behind the Resolute desk. He's the one who let us into this. You think it should change so quickly.

Bill O'Reilly (24:30)

But he has to make decisions. President Trump has to make decisions on what the public is demanding. If he wants to keep power, he's got his eye in November. Now, I believe that what will happen going forward is you'll have sustained bombing for another week, maybe 10 days. That should do it. It should knock out all the infrastructure, including the mines in the Strait of Hormuz. Every kind of weaponry they have, all the drones they have, another seven to 10 days should knock it down. Okay. Then I think you'll see an announcement that the mullahs, who's ever going to be in charge want to talk. Okay. And then there'll be a meeting in Geneva and there'll be some kind of capitulation on the part of Iran that Iran won't live up to because they'll be so desperate they'll sign anything and they're not going to live up to it. And Trump will say, hey, we won. That's the likely scenario. Boy,

Leland Vittert (25:45)

boy. The words unconditional surrender in the very beginning I thought meant something because I think President Trump understood what needed to happen in Iran. Here's Rand Paul talking about that.

Bill O'Reilly (25:57)

One of the things that's being said now is that we are going for unconditional surrender. That's what we went for with George, Japan. And of course, Japan had attacked us. We lost 400,000 soldiers in World War II. And so we fought that to a conclusion of unconditional surrender, but it required two nuclear weapons. Are people prepared to have nuclear weapons demolish, you know, one or two cities in Iran?

Leland Vittert (26:22)

Okay, we can agree that that silly straw man argument, same thing the Democrats do. But Iran has a say in this. Would you let another president get away with saying, look, I'll decide when the unconditional surrender has happened? And there you go.

Bill O'Reilly (26:40)

Would I let him get away with it if this was Obama back in Vietnam?

Leland Vittert (26:46)

Right. I mean, everybody declares victory. It's our job.

Bill O'Reilly (26:48)

Kissinger did in Vietnam. Right.

Leland Vittert (26:50)

And we all knew it was false. Isn't that a risk? Isn't that a risk for Trump?

Bill O'Reilly (26:54)

The risk for Trump is that he loses in November. That's the risk. That is all his power evaporates if this thing doesn't work out. And I think that there is a way to work it out without a regime change that doesn't seem to be happening. The way is just to annihilate Iran's ability to cause trouble militarily. And I think that will happen.

Leland Vittert (27:22)

Don't we elect presidents, though?

Bill O'Reilly (27:24)

That would be enough. That would be enough for me as an American citizen. I would say worthwhile. Worthwhile. If that happens, all the nukes go, all the ballistic missiles go, all the capacity to wage offensive war goes. That, for me, is a win.

Leland Vittert (27:43)

Yeah, that is. That is unquestionably a win if that happens. Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much. Good to see you.

Simone (27:51)

Bill O'Reilly, how you doing?

Bill O'Reilly (27:54)

You know, I'M busy. Like you never ends, right? The cycle never ends.

Simone (27:59)

I know, but you keep adding stuff. Now you got a new podcast. Tell us about this.

Bill O'Reilly (28:04)

Yeah, we're calling it We'll Do It Live. Basic. That comes from a phrase I said when I was 12 years old on television. Yeah, but you know that you have bombs.

Simone (28:15)

That clip.

Bill O'Reilly (28:16)

Everybody remembers that. Interesting story behind it. I was anchoring Inside Edition, and the technical people could not get the stuff to work, so we usually taped our leads. And I just exploded because I was sitting there for like a half an hour, and they were just screwing up one after another. So I said, all right, let's do it live. And, you know, a few F bombs, da, da, da. They recorded that and somebody sold it to a website for pretty big money. I understand.

Simone (28:55)

Really.

Bill O'Reilly (28:56)

And that's how it got out into the public. So, of course, we try to use all of that stuff to our advantage. So my staff, younger people, say, oh, let's call a new podcast. We'll Do It Live. I didn't want to do that, you know. Well, they had. They insisted. So, yeah. Every Thursday, the unfair. And we kick it off this week with Rob Schneider, who's very good, the SNL guy. And, you know, he's in all the Adam Sandler movies and he's a Trump guy and he's paid a big price for it.

Simone (29:33)

So.

Bill O'Reilly (29:34)

So that's our first one coming up on Thursday. Thursday.

Simone (29:38)

Let me just say this about. We'll do it live. Every TV host I've ever known, every TV studio I've ever been in, there's always a moment with the control room, screws up and he yells like that at the control. That's every host ever in the history of television. Can you name, of course, anybody that didn't do that?

Bill O'Reilly (29:54)

Right. And when you're working as intensely as we have to work, you're included in this, Simone. Yeah. You know, and somebody just continues to screw up time after time after time. You lose patience. Unless you're a robot, I don't care. I don't regret doing it. I, you know, but the mercenary aspect of, oh, yeah, we'll get some money for this. That's a little. That's a little torture.

Simone (30:21)

I think I can vouch it's every TV host ever. And every radio host has done that. It's common. It. So where. Where do we go to watch this podcast?

Bill O'Reilly (30:30)

It's on billow reilly.com and in all of our ancillaries. YouTube, everywhere. But billo'reilly.com is where we live. And people just punch that up. Very easy. Shows you where the notes been, news is. Shows you where the podcast is. Shows you where the columns are. Very easy. One stop shopping.

Simone (30:51)

All right, well, the first podcast, the first episode comes out Thursday. Hey, Elsie, you got this YouTube channel now. I'm reading that Phil Rosenthal, who's got a big, big hit on Netflix for years, big Netflix show, is moving to YouTube next year. What is it with this YouTube that everybody wants to be there?

Bill O'Reilly (31:09)

Because it's easy for younger people to access it. So older people, they don't know, but if you're under 50, chances are you're not watching linear TV at all.

Simone (31:21)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (31:23)

And so your entertainment then comes from YouTube, where you can get music, you can get movies, you can get shows, you can get whatever you want. And that surge, and it's a worldwide thing. It's not just national. So I get letters from Thailand and Sri Lanka and South Africa, you know, all these places, because there's no boundary to it, and the audience is enormous. So we get millions of hits, which means millions of people come in to watch certain things that we post on YouTube, and then we can sell those as far as advertising is concerned, because the younger people are watching that, and that's who the advertisers want to reach. So it's extremely lucrative, and it cuts out the corporations. See, they can't control it anymore, and it goes right into the entrepreneurs. The danger on that is there isn't any editing, and people do irresponsible things on YouTube to try to make money. So that's a danger. But the good news is the freedom of expression has expanded by a thousandfold since YouTube is dominating. Wow.

Simone (32:36)

Well, watch. Bill O'Reilly, YouTube. Great channel. Hey, let me ask you about the war. Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, they keep talking about the endless war. Trump promised no endless war. It's day 11. What endless war? It's one week and a half.

Bill O'Reilly (32:51)

Sure. But the Democratic Party is doing what it did in Vietnam. It's setting itself up as the dissent for any kind of military action. And I'm not sure that is a good move right now. So it's risky on the part of President Trump, no doubt. And if the Iran thing does not work out, then he's going to have a time. The Republicans are in November. But if it does work out and those mullahs are tossed and you get a more moderate government, then the Democratic Party once again, is going to be on the wrong side of the issue once again. I mean, they don't want voter IDs. They want trans people playing against women on the field. I mean, how many mistakes you going to make? So rather than being neutral on it and saying, okay, we understand the threat Iran poses the world, radical elements of the Democratic Party and the leadership as well, they go, well, we don't really want to take out the mullahs. We're content in letting them have a nuclear weapon. That's insane. So there's big risk, political risk, on both sides here.

Simone (34:11)

Yeah. But you would think if we came back a month and a half from now, this will all be wrapped up in three months.

Bill O'Reilly (34:20)

I hope so. But you just don't know because it's a police state in Iran. It's not like Cuba. Cuba's gonna fold any day now. Has to. They can't feed their people. All right. Iran still got that police state intact. So you saw these Revolutionary Guard guys going out and killing you. I mean, the estimate is 30,000 protesters have been killed in the last month or so in Iran. I mean, people are frightened. They don't want to get a bullet in the head. And that is very difficult to dislodge from the air and from the sea. But Americans are not going to support ground troops in Iran. They will not. And that would be the end of the Trump administration if he did that. Yeah.

Simone (35:09)

Go back to what you said. Cuba is going to fall at any. Really.

Bill O'Reilly (35:13)

Oh, yeah. And the way that's going to come out is they're going to make a deal or a treaty with the United States whereby they are going to repudiate their communist approach, going to open up the free marketplace, and the USA will help them, quote, unquote, rebuild their economy. And it'll pretty much be Venezuela. Washington will dictate to Havana what they're going to do. And that's the model, and I think that's going to happen.

Bill O'Reilly (35:49)

Wow.

Simone (35:50)

Now Cuba could make a fortune. It's a beautiful Caribbean paradise.

Bill O'Reilly (35:54)

Oh, it's incredible. I was there a few years ago at Varadaro beach, which is about eight miles outside Havana, one of the most beautiful beaches in the Caribbean. The hotel was a disaster. They didn't even have towels. They didn't have towels. So I was looking at the guy, well, how is it dry off here? But the property was unbelievable. And the big money in Dade county, all Cuban, is going to go right back into Cuba. Boom.

Simone (36:30)

Wow.

Bill O'Reilly (36:31)

And that place is going to be, in five years, an unbelievable destination. And they'll have gambling. It'll be just like it was Before Castro took over in 1959, with the exception of it's not going to be run by gangsters. You know, the Godfather 2 is true if you watch that movie. I mean, gangsters were controlling the Batista government, but now. And you could probably make the case that D.C. is full of gangsters too, but the American government will be calling the shots in Havana.

Simone (37:05)

Wow. Wouldn't be great to bring back Meyer Lansky and those guys and have them cut the ribbon.

Bill O'Reilly (37:12)

The Lansky Hotel, a boutique experience.

Simone (37:17)

Well, that's great news. Well, Everybody watch Bill O'Reilly go to YouTube. You watch his channel there. Make sure you go to billoriley.com and get the TV show and the message of the day. And once again, Thursday. When, when does it come out? Thursday, the new podcast.

Bill O'Reilly (37:33)

Yeah, we drop it probably about 6 o' clock or something like that. So everybody will be amused. It's. It's different. You know, most podcasts, Simone, a guy sitting around in sweatshirt smoking pot, you know, that's what they do. It's somebody's garage. That's not what we do. This is a real upscale, a good information flow and Schneider really does a nice job with it. And then the following a week from Thursday, we got Steve Chiripa from the Sopranos.

Simone (38:03)

We love him. Well, all right, everybody. Everybody watch the new podcast called We'll do it live. Bill O'Reilly's new podcast.

Ava (38:11)

Right.

Erasmus (38:12)

Time to announce that we've won the war. That was President Trump's choice. Where is it coming from? What does it motivate politically? Let's bring in Mr. Bill O'Reilly. Bill, how do you see it?

Bill O'Reilly (38:22)

You must be tired. Cuomo, are you all right?

Erasmus (38:25)

I know how to do the job, brother. How do you see things?

Bill O'Reilly (38:29)

I don't see things definitively yet because I don't have all the information. So what do you expect President Trump to say? He's going to say he won the war. And why is anybody surprised about that? He gets every morning, as you know, an intel assessment. From what I understand, the intel assessment says that the Iranians capacity to wage offensive war down about 80%. Okay, I believe it. And I say if you want to say that's a victory, I'm not going to quibble with it.

Erasmus (39:05)

So you don't think that the American president saying that we've won the war with things as they stand right now is anything then an amusing style flourish?

Bill O'Reilly (39:15)

No, I mean, I don't think it's LBJ and General Westmoreland in Vietnam that were actually lying to the United States people, about what was happening in that theater of war. I think that people believe what they want to believe, and the president wants to believe that he is on the edge of a huge victory and he's got some stats to back it up. So why wouldn't he say it? It's good for him politically to say it. His supporters want to hear it. So he's saying it. And I don't have any beef with it.

Erasmus (39:51)

Right. The question is why you don't have any beef with it when we've never heard anybody say something like that in this situation that is so woefully incomplete. We're nowhere near the end of this. Surely you know that. Surely he does. We thought Bush was premature. I'm not sure when he was on the aircraft carrier.

Bill O'Reilly (40:09)

Listen, I don't have the data, as I said front to quibble with the president's assessment, number one. So unlike 90% of television pundits, I'm not going to speculate. Number two, there's a CIA report today, and I know this to be true, that says the whatever's left of the Iranian government wants to chat. And I believe you're going to see that soon that there's going to be a Geneva meeting of some kind and they're going to work out wording where they'll make a deal, as President Trump would say. But the deal is going to be Venezuela. The deal is going to be Iran will do what it's told to do and stop the funding of terrorism and stop all the madness with the nukes and become a civilized nation. That's what America expects to happen. Maybe it won't.

Erasmus (41:10)

They are toxic, pernicious zealots that have never kept their word on any level. And my concern goes to the people who are going to be left in the wake. This is not Venezuela. They kill their people by the tens of thousands and they think it's a good thing. What do you think happens if the regime is still in place? Signs a piece of paper promising to be what they never will be? We both know that right now. You don't have to be a fortune teller. And the people of Iran who thought help was coming are still there being victimized.

Bill O'Reilly (41:38)

Listen, the people of Iran have gotten a lot of help at the people of America's expense. So the people of Iran know that we're the only country on earth that would do this. There's not one other country that would come to try to break this murderous regime, but the United States. That's number one. So Help is on the way, and it's already been there. Now, what happens after that, no one knows. Okay? But it's unfair to think that it's all going to be negative toward the Persian people and toward the United States. I don't believe that. Now, I could be wrong, but I believe that the Iranian terror machine has been severely downgraded. Severely downgraded. And that is a good thing. Now, whether the Persian can get it together and overthrow the government like they did 39 years ago. And I wrote. You mentioned history. Look, my book Confronting Evil gets into how the Persians overthrew the Shah. And they could do the same thing now. But 30,000 dead, that's a lot of bodies, okay? And they're scared. And in 1945, even as Berlin went up in flames, German people didn't break out against Hitler because they were scared the SS would mow them down, which they would, and they did. So I understand the big picture here. I think it's trending toward Iran not having the capacity to cause trouble, at least in the short term. But you're absolutely right. If they get an opportunity to break the treaty, they will break it. And there's really not much we can do about that other than to hit them again and again and again. And I hope that doesn't happen.

Erasmus (43:32)

What do you think this means right now, back home? Every poll I see shows two completely irreconcilable things. One is the American people are overwhelmingly against this. They're also against the regime existing, but against this because we are. We have pts from being in the Middle East. But every base poll I see shows tremendous support from. For the president from the same voters I thought would be the most offended by this.

Bill O'Reilly (44:05)

Well, Erasmus, and poll just out today contradicts your analysis. But each poll is different, and we have to take that into consideration. It's a 5050 split, and I think that's where the country is. The country wants the United States to break Iran. Some Americans don't want to pay the price for that. I think that's an accurate assessment. They don't want to pay more for gas. They don't want to see any casualties. They don't want to pay attention to it. Okay. But I think most Americans understand that the campaign is noble, that Trump is doing the right thing. But the right thing isn't always the easiest thing. Most of the time it isn't. But from my experience across the board, most loyal Americans want the United States to break Iran. You only see the fanatical, progressive left, rooting for Iran. No one else.

Erasmus (45:08)

I don't see anybody rooting for Iran. I think it's about how this is being done and what it means back home. But look, all of these questions get answered the same way with the three worst words in the world. Right? Which are? We will see.

Bill O'Reilly (45:20)

Yeah, and that's a cop out.

Erasmus (45:22)

You know what, Reverend?

Bill O'Reilly (45:23)

The we will see.

Erasmus (45:24)

I know, but I mean, look, you know, look. But you're saying I don't have the data. I don't know. I could be wrong. I mean, it's all the same universe of incredulity. I mean, at home, this is not helping the domestic situation right now. And I think promises that gas prices will be even better after. This is a silly thing to say, but I do think he's going on the affordability tour for a real reason.

Bill O'Reilly (45:49)

Wait, what did you think was going to happen? What did you think was going to happen? This is a military fight, okay? There are going to be bad things that occur and the press is. Oh, no.

Bill O'Reilly (46:02)

Oh, I know.

Bill O'Reilly (46:04)

I mean, come on. What do you. Is this Little Bo Peep land? All right? The trend.

Erasmus (46:09)

No, it's not this Little Bo Peep. It's not Little Bo Peep. It's Boy who cried wolf. It's not Little Bo Peep. Wait, who's the. Donald Trump promised.

Bill O'Reilly (46:19)

Who's the boy crying wolf? Cuomo.

Erasmus (46:21)

Donald.

Bill O'Reilly (46:23)

What is he, Donald Trump?

Erasmus (46:24)

The boy who said, oh, yeah, no more wars. If I'm President, I'll never go to war with Iran. It doesn't work. Going with military into the Middle east. It's been a waste of blood and treasure.

Bill O'Reilly (46:39)

These are all paraphrases.

Erasmus (46:43)

That's the fairy tale.

Bill O'Reilly (46:44)

You're taking it completely out of context. And events change.

Erasmus (46:49)

Really?

Bill O'Reilly (46:49)

Yes, really. All the times that he said it was about infantry insertion into the Middle east, which he opposes. And that's not going to happen. All right, you got to read the constituent remarks. And even if it were true, and it isn't, but even if it were, events change, the world changes. And when the UN says that Iran is very close to breaking out a nuclear weapon, the UN Says it. You got to pay attention to that Cuomo.

Erasmus (47:27)

Which also condemns these actions. The UN also condemns what not the nuclear weapon is doing in Iran right now.

Bill O'Reilly (47:33)

Not the politicians in the U.N. do not. The nuclear.

Erasmus (47:37)

The U.N. is the U.N. yeah, and they're not.

Bill O'Reilly (47:40)

They're no friends.

Erasmus (47:43)

I understand that. But, you know, it's not about Trump. It's about the whole country.

Ava (47:49)

Ladies and gentlemen, Here it is. We'll do it live. A bold, fresh presentation, brand new podcast from Bill O'Reilly. So, Bill, let's start right there. Congratulations on your new podcast. I love it. How's that going so far?

Bill O'Reilly (48:06)

I don't know. Today's the first day. Today I'm talking to.

Ava (48:11)

Oh, wow.

Bill O'Reilly (48:12)

Yeah, we're dropping it today. And the big story is my staff turned on me, so I. They've been hammering me for a year or so. You got to do a long form. I hate the word podcast because most podcasts are two guys sitting in the basement smoking pot. Okay. Yeah. That's not what we do. And so I do research, and I. I said, we'll resurrect Mike Wallace's show Nightbeat. And that was on the air in 1950s, early 60s, before most people were born in this country. But it was a brilliant show because Wallace was the best TV interviewer of all time. And I said, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna do once a week an hour with a very fascinating person, and we'll throw it on out there. But it'll be only different than all of these crazy people throwing, you know, garbage at each other and jumping up and down, setting themselves on fire, you know, no hard drugs in the studio. I'm sorry. And they all nodding at me. And then they go, well, we have a perfect name. I said, what's that? And they said, we'll do it live. My staff is mocking me. My own staff turns on me. I feel like Julius Caesar, my toga. And if people don't know what that means. So I'm 12 years old. I'm interview anchoring Inside Edition, which is still on the air. And they couldn't get the technical stuff in a row after, like, an hour. And so I explode, and I go, I will do it live. And I threw in some F bombs. Okay.

Simone (49:52)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (49:53)

Literally every broadcaster in the world does that at some point.

Ava (49:56)

Sure.

Bill O'Reilly (49:57)

So record that I didn't know is being recorded because they couldn't record anything all day. And then somebody sells it to a far left website when I become famous. Okay? And that's where we'll do it live. And then it goes all over the place. So I have to do is punch up Bill O'Reilly on your dopey phone, right? And put we'll do it live. And you'll see this embarrassment.

Ava (50:23)

No, see, I disagree. No, it's not embarrassing. I'll tell you what, it's actually misleading because when you see that. And again, like, you said you were a kid in the business at Inside Edition is before you became a monster star with the Factor on Fox News. When you see that, you actually think you're a mean guy. And of course, you anything but.

Bill O'Reilly (50:43)

Well, I was a mean guy when I was 12.

Ava (50:45)

Oh, you were. You were. Yes.

Bill O'Reilly (50:47)

There's no statue of limitations. Let's put it down.

Ava (50:49)

You came out of Levittown a mean guy. The nurses beat the nurses. The, the nuns beat it out of you, didn't they? They made you mean.

Bill O'Reilly (50:57)

It was the nuns that did it. So today we have, we opened up with Rob Schneider, the SNL guy and a comedian.

Ava (51:06)

And he's not the snl. He is the Adam Sandler guy. He's in every.

Bill O'Reilly (51:11)

Adam Sandler guy.

Ava (51:13)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (51:13)

If you go to billoriley.com we have a conversation between me and Sandler on the phone before we start the interview. It's very funny. The importance of the interview is that he is a big Trump guy and he's paid a professional price for that. And he goes into exactly how it works in Hollywood and how you're banished and blackballed and scorned if you say anything good about Trump. And then he goes into Jimmy Kimmel. What happened to Kimmel? Exactly what happened. That which I didn't know. And so all of that is in the first. We'll do it live. Awesome broadcast on billo reilly.com and we're hoping. And I interviewed Steve Sharipa last night. Oh, great.

Bill O'Reilly (52:04)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (52:05)

Got the inside stuff on the Sopranos which is absolutely fascinating on how that thing could be manufactured every week. And then we do a little blue blood stuff with Tom Selleck and, and, and Sharipa is one of my favorite guys.

Ava (52:21)

Me too.

Bill O'Reilly (52:22)

And what I'm trying to do is book guests who are absolutely honest, kind of like you. And we'll get you on.

Ava (52:29)

Thank you.

Bill O'Reilly (52:30)

But thank you, but no filter, guys. You know, and the next one we're gonna have Lindsey Graham. And I, I booked him myself. I said, listen, you know, you gotta come on with me. It's a worldwide thing. This, this is not just in the United States. And explain what America's role in the world is because it's changed.

Ava (52:56)

You know, I want to get to him. And again, Snyder is on FOX News quite a bit because like you said, he's a very open Trump supporting Republican. And I tell you where, you know this already, Sharipa is great. He loves talking about this city. The mayors, Eric Adams, Mamdani, they're going to be great. But now that you got to Lindse, I love Lindsay, okay? And he's a longtime, very, very close friend of my first cousin, the former mayor in Minnesota and Senator Norm Coleman, but he's known as a warhawk. You know, they talk about John Bolton, they talk about even Richard Lowry. But at the very top of this list is Lindsey and the people in this country that are against Operation Epic Fury. To them, to them, Lindsey Graham. Bill O'Reilly is public enemy number one because for the most part, he wants to blow up everybody and kill everybody. So I know you know this and he knows this, but that is his reputation. The folks who are critical of this ongoing battle in Iran, they really hate Lindsey Graham.

Bill O'Reilly (53:56)

Well, that. They hate me, too, and a whole bunch of other people. But I'm going to get in this interview with the senator is nice to do it. We're going to get right down to how America's role in this world has changed. And most people do not understand this, all right, because they're busy making a living. They're raising their children. They're running around, they're listening to you and radio, and they're on their phone 10 hours a day. They don't understand how we are using our power in a different way now and it's going to affect every single human being in this country.

Ava (54:45)

That's not the question. The question is, you're right, we're using our power because we've got it. What people don't understand is we're operating from a position of strength which both Russia and China can't do. That's why lots of analysts say, yeah, the powers. Yeah. And they won't do it. But the question is, will it affect Bill O'Reilly Americans positively or negatively?

Bill O'Reilly (55:09)

Of course it will affect in both ways. It just depends on the outcome. So the problem that we have here in this country is that good people and most of us are good people, I think. I mean, I put the bad people at 25% Democrats. That's a high number. But you got 350 million people in the country.

Ava (55:33)

Right.

Bill O'Reilly (55:34)

So. But 25%, a lot of bad people. But the good people, all right, they don't understand that if you are going to take the lead to pacify and confront evil. Gee, confronting evil, where did that come from? All right. I mean, it's amazing that I write this book and everything in the book comes true.

Bill O'Reilly (55:54)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (55:55)

Okay. If you are going to take the lead role, you're going to suffer. You're going to suffer because this is very difficult. If you look at the press, the fawning press coverage. These are like fifth graders.

Bill O'Reilly (56:13)

Yeah, yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (56:17)

You know, and you're looking at them and you're going to. This is a major military campaign. So I'm thinking about George Patton, the general, and he's walking down in Luxembourg trying to rescue the Bastogne guys, and a soldier comes up to him, goes, general, come on, this is military combat.

Ava (56:41)

I know, but, you know, but you talk about these podcasts. And again, folks, but this is straight.

Bill O'Reilly (56:47)

No, I know, I know. Evening news. These people don't know anything.

Ava (56:53)

But they're on for a whopping total of four minutes. But the podcast. And again, I urge you all to watch. We'll do it live. Bill or Roddy's new podcast, which starts today. You got these far right Republicans, for the most part, and lefties that do hours and hours on. I thought Trump was America first. Why are there.

Bill O'Reilly (57:11)

It's so ridiculous. Yeah, because look, just step back for a moment. So you got the United nations nuclear energy guy, okay? And he comes out and he goes, hey, I hate to break it to you, but they're working on 10 nuclear bombs, they being the Iranian Moaz. So this didn't start with Lindsey Graham or Donald Trump or anybody like that. This comes out of the United nations, which despises the United States, okay? They don't like us, all right? So all of a sudden they go, what? I thought we bombed them. Yeah, we did bomb them, but that they didn't have all of their nuclear facilities in one mountainside, right?

Ava (57:57)

And they also say, just to add to this, they also say, I've been hearing about this, the nuclear bomb from Iran for years now. All of a sudden, now it matters. That's another one of their arguments, okay?

Bill O'Reilly (58:10)

But let's just stay on this micro thing so even Mamdani can understand it, all right? I'm going to be very, very precise. So this comes out and this guy says to the world, these guys are fairly close to getting 10 bombs. They're having uranium enriched to that extent. Then that gets everybody's attention in Washington. CIA, the nsa, Defense Department, Pentagon, everybody's attention. They go, oh, what are we going to do now? Then the Persian people rise up and 30,000 human beings are slaughtered in the street. 30,000 dead. And you go, whoa. And then you have Israel telling the US Intelligence agencies, the mullah, the head guy, the ayatollah, and at least 25 of his henchmen are gonna be in this garage at this time if you want to wax them, okay? So you're the president. You got 30,000 dead bodies, you got nukes coming at you. The UN says, and you got all of these guys in a garage at one time. What do you do?

Ava (59:45)

You blow them up just like. Just like we did. But they're going to. But these other people will tell you, wait a second. We don't got 30,000 bodies. They weren't dead in Cincinnati or Los Angeles or Brooklyn.

Bill O'Reilly (59:56)

Okay, so that. That's the argument of the isolationists who are not only on the left, the Rand Paul's.

Ava (60:04)

That's right, Rand Paul, Tom Massey, Tucker Carlson, all these people.

Bill O'Reilly (60:08)

Yeah, all of them. Does the name Adolf Hitler mean anything? Do you. Okay, so in 1939, if Europe and Europe is in the same exact position now, they're not helping with the mullahs. They're not helping, all right? And they're the ones going to get blown up first. So in 1939, if all of the European countries said, hey, Adolf is marching all over the place, he's militarized his whole army in an offensive capacity, and he wrote a book saying he's going to kill every Jew he can, maybe we want to kind of intervene there.

Bill O'Reilly (60:47)

No.

Bill O'Reilly (60:48)

Oh, no, no. We got to watch Adolf do all this. I mean, I'm sitting there going, you know nothing about history. You know nothing about the current world. You don't care how many people the mullahs slaughter. And they include Americans and Jews in Israel. You don't care about October 7th, who you financed that? I guess that was Iran, was it not?

Ava (61:17)

It was all three of those who

Bill O'Reilly (61:18)

built all the roadside bombs that blew up the American soldiers in Iraq.

Ava (61:23)

Iran.

Bill O'Reilly (61:25)

Yeah.

Ava (61:26)

Who blew up all those?

Bill O'Reilly (61:27)

We can't do anything.

Ava (61:28)

That's right. And who blew up all the American soldiers in Beirut back in 1981? And I gotta tell you, one of those people that you're talking about who doesn't care happens to be the vice president, J.D.

Bill O'Reilly (61:38)

vance.

Ava (61:38)

I know he doesn't say it publicly, but I'm telling you, I've got some pretty good intel. Not as good as you, Bill, I admit that, but pretty good intel that says that J.D. vance has become a hero. Those folks, you know, who love Tom Massie and Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor Greene, now, they love J.D. vance. I was told that he was a pain in the ass every step of the way.

Bill O'Reilly (62:00)

Look, I don't know that I'm not. I don't have any entree there. What I know is this. His profile has been diminished in the last three or four months. You don't hear much about him. He's in charge of fraud now. All right, so he's. He's living with. With Mandani in a back room at Gracie Mansion. He's in charge of fraud. So if you're gonna get fraud, that's where you go, right?

Bill O'Reilly (62:27)

Yeah.

Bill O'Reilly (62:28)

All right, so he's in marginalized. He's entitled to his opinion. I mean, I'm not. I don't run down people who are isolationists. I just point out how wrong they are and how dangerous it is. Look, I'm Catholic. And the Pope comes out and goes, we need more dialogue. We need to have the people's voices heard. And I go, your Holiness, just one thought you might consider the 30,000 that were slaughtered. They can't be heard because they're dead.

Ava (63:00)

Pretty good point.

Bill O'Reilly (63:02)

Okay, so is he missing this? Is he missing it?

Ava (63:07)

Well, listen, I like the good old days, and I'm Jewish, so maybe I shouldn't remark about the Pope, but I did love John Paul so much. I like the good old days when the Pope kind of stayed out of stuff like this, didn't he?

Bill O'Reilly (63:17)

Yeah. I mean, the Catholic Church got a bad and unfair branding in World War II because the revisionist historians say, oh, Pope Pius XII didn't do enough of the amount of Hitler. Are you kidding me? All right, the SS could have swapped into the Vatican in three hours, all right, and it would have been SWAT stickers all over St. Peter's it was an impossible situation. If you know anything about the run up to the war in Europe, Dachau was the first camp, work camp full of Catholic priests. Yeah, because the Catholics were speaking out inside Germany against the Nazi regime. And Hitler just swooped them up and put them in Dachau. All right? And that's never been reported accurately. And it is like, oh, no, they didn't do enough. What are you nuts? I mean, you do what you can do, and that gets back to America, and that gets back to our new role in the world. So Europe is. They're all cowards. Spain. Spain. I'm sorry. I'm not going to Spain ever again either. I'm not.

Ava (64:23)

No, me either.

Bill O'Reilly (64:24)

Spain's not letting Americans refuel aircraft. Refuel.

Ava (64:28)

No.

Bill O'Reilly (64:28)

For what reason?

Bill O'Reilly (64:30)

And I got.

Ava (64:31)

And I got to tell you, you know Ava very, very well, Bill, and she did a great job in the UK and Wales, and we spent a lot of time, Danielle and I, in London. I know you're not that far remove. You and Spencer from being in London, too, but those son of a bitches. That Stormer. I'm considering never going back to London either. How about that?

Bill O'Reilly (64:47)

You know, he's so weak. He's not going to be around much longer. They don't have any leadership over there. In the entire. In the entire apparatus of the House of Lords, the House of Common Buckingham, there's no leader, nothing. I mean, there's. I'm looking at a Starmer. I mean, Winston Churchill would have taken his cane and beat the hell out of him.

Ava (65:10)

Yeah. That's what my guy, Niall. I think he's going to have to run for office there in London. I think he's going to have a choice.

Bill O'Reilly (65:16)

But you're right, the reason I do this is to pander to the Arab communities that are very substantial in England and in Spain and other European. Because of the open border.

Ava (65:27)

Oh, my God. Paris, too. Don't forget, we were in Paris this summer for Avis graduation.

Bill O'Reilly (65:31)

These politicians pander to. They look away. I know now, to be fair, Italy, all right, has really helped. So it's not everybody, but it's like the United States is now, in my opinion, the only force of good in the world that will attempt to right wrongs. We're alone. We have nobody else, all right, to help us. Now, Israel is helping here, but it's not able to help in Beijing. And Trump is off to Beijing. I'm going to the White House on. On Tuesday. I don't know if I'll see the President or not. It's. It's Leprechaun Day there, St. Patrick's Day, so I'm going in and there'll be all the Irish guys, red faces and big noses. I love it, you know?

Erasmus (66:22)

Love it.

Bill O'Reilly (66:23)

So I'm going to go and I'm hoping to get a few minutes because of the upcoming Beijing summit between Xi and Trump, which is exceedingly important and very interestingly, you had not heard China go to the defense of Iran. So I believe a deal's already been cut there.

Ava (66:39)

I'm sure.

Simone (66:40)

I'm sure.

Bill O'Reilly (66:41)

And Putin's the big winner of all of this. He's a big winner because now they'll have to buy oil from Russia.

Ava (66:49)

No choice.

Simone (66:49)

That's right.

Ava (66:50)

They got no choice.

Bill O'Reilly (66:51)

So there's food going and Putin's the devil. I mean, you know, you want Lucifer. That's. Here he is. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, it's a very complicated. But when I'm watching the media coverage, I mean, these people don't know anything. No, they don't know anything. What do you mean? The straight moves. You wouldn't be able to find the straight before moves if a wave took over your living room.

Ava (67:18)

You are so right. Look, it comes down to this very simply. If he didn't go in, they would complain he didn't do anything about it. Now he's going in, they're complaining he's doing something about it. The media is driven by one thing and one thing only, and that is Trump hate. The podcast is we'll do it live. It's going to be amazing. A bold, fresh new podcast presentation by the greatest ever, Bill O'Reilly, who just gave you, folks, you're very lucky, 27 minutes of radio gold, as he does on this station. Thank God we've got him a few times a week. Bill O'Reilly, I couldn't love you any more than I do. I'll talk to you for St. Patrick's Day. Thank you so much.

Bill O'Reilly (67:54)

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