O'Round the World - March 29, 2026

Summary

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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: O'Round the World - March 29, 2026

Host: Bill O'Reilly
Date: March 29, 2026

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Overview

This episode sees Bill O’Reilly take listeners on a sweep of major current events, focusing keenly on domestic controversies, the situation in Iran, and the ongoing evolution of media and political trust in America. O’Reilly is joined by several commentators, including Nick Cuomo, engaging in high-tempo debate and analysis. Key themes include free speech and discrimination in America, the moral complexity of negotiating with “evil” regimes, the chaos and stakes in US-Iran relations, media culture shifts, and the growing disconnect between the public and political leadership.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. Sarah Huckabee Incident: Discrimination Laws and Free Speech

[00:03 – 09:02]

• Background: Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders was removed from a restaurant in Little Rock, sparking controversy.

  • O’Reilly argues the ejection was politically motivated due to Sanders' support for ICE and immigration enforcement.
  • Criticism of existing anti-discrimination laws, which do not protect political beliefs.

• Legal & Ethical Questions:

  • O’Reilly explains that state and federal law (notably Title VII of the Civil Rights Act) protects against discrimination based on identity factors (race, sex, religion, etc.) but not political viewpoint.
  • Advocates for states to adopt laws protecting opinions:
    • “If you're booted because you're Catholic or Jewish or Protestant or Muslim, you can sue … But if you just hold an opinion, you lose because it's not there under the law.” ([05:12] Bill O'Reilly)
  • Warns of implications for free speech and fair discourse.

• Cultural Commentary:

  • Draws parallel between growing intolerance for opposing views in public spaces and historical authoritarianism.
  • Suggests the “battle” is between “normal versus the crazy,” reflecting a belief that social discourse is more polarized than ever.

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2. Negotiating with Evil: Historical Parallels and the Iran Situation

[09:03 – 19:20]

• Regime Change & Appeasement:

  • O’Reilly revisits debates around deals with authoritarian regimes, referencing Neville Chamberlain and Munich pre-WWII.
    • “The word success never entered my mind. It postponed the armed conflict.” ([10:07] Bill O'Reilly)

• The Iran Crisis:

  • Discussion around the Trump administration's willingness to cut a deal with a crumbling Iranian regime.
    • The deal would include cessation of uranium enrichment and arms inspection in exchange for eased sanctions.
    • Hope is for the Iranian public to overthrow a weakened regime post-ceasefire, reminiscent of “regime collapse” theory:
      • “The hope is that the Iranian regime is in such disarray that after the cease fire and Hormuz opens... the Persians will rise up.” ([11:49] Bill O'Reilly)

• Skepticism and Realpolitik:

  • Deep skepticism about who holds power in Iran (“there is no identifiable person” [11:27]).
  • Explores risks of truces enabling regimes to regroup versus continued military action.

• China's Role:

  • Recognition of China's critical need for Iranian oil and strategic influence over US-Iran dynamics.

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3. The Media, Public Awareness, and Long-Form Journalism

[19:20 – 23:08]

• Podcasting and Public Engagement:

  • O’Reilly promotes his podcast “We’ll Do It Live,” highlighting his longform interviews with Lindsey Graham and, upcoming, Steve Schirripa.
    • “You know, when you interview a guy for an hour... he has to have it together or I'm going to destroy him.” ([17:37] Bill O'Reilly)

• Media Critique:

  • Disdain for short-form “junk” coverage; preference for in-depth, old-school interviews.
  • Exchange about why long-form conversations are resonating with audiences:
    • “I've been in this business more than 50 years... they want honesty and they want authenticity.” ([20:03] Bill O’Reilly)

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4. US-Iran Dialogue: Chaos, Uncertainty, and Spin

[23:13 – 32:23]

• Inside Track:

  • O’Reilly, after talking to President Trump, reports the administration wishes to start a dialogue with Iran but faces confusion due to undefined leadership on the Iranian side.

• Government Spin:

  • Both parties produce narratives for mass consumption—listeners are urged to be skeptical:
    • “You gotta be skeptical of every administration. They're gonna put forth what they want the American people to digest.” ([25:49] Bill O’Reilly)

• Political Accountability:

  • Critiques politicians like Schumer for avoiding tough interviews and failing to fully back essential government functions—“He's a coward... responsible for the TSA people not being paid.” ([26:30] Bill O'Reilly)

• Trust in Leadership:

  • Heated debate: Do presidents lie?
    • O’Reilly separates being “wrong” from “lying,” stands by his view that not all political misstatements are lies.
    • “A lie means you wake up and say, here's the truth, but here's what I'm going to say, which is the opposite. That's not what Trump does.” ([32:27] Bill O'Reilly)

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5. San Francisco, Crime, and Illegal Immigration

[32:23 – 34:53]

• Fentanyl and Violence:
  • O’Reilly claims Honduran drug gangs, protected by sanctuary laws and illegal status, control narcotics trade in San Francisco and Oakland.
    • “Little children watch drug addicts inject themselves with needles in their neck as they walk to school... Meanwhile, two miles away, Nancy Pelosi is living in an $8 million house.” ([34:08] Bill O’Reilly)
  • Blames political leadership for the city’s decline and inaction.

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6. Public Apathy, Political Outcomes, and Lessons from History

[34:53 – 43:23]

• Voter Responsibility:

  • O’Reilly and guests discuss high-profile murders and the lack of public or political action; politicians are described as “venal” and “apathetic.”
  • Points to infamous cases (Kate Steinle in San Francisco) and failed policies (Kate’s Law) as evidence of bipartisan failure.

• Historical Reflection:

  • Draws historical analogies between today’s public inaction and tides of history in Germany, Iran, and elsewhere—people’s unwillingness to rise up against injustice or poor governance.

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7. Upcoming and Recent O’Reilly Podcasts

[43:23 – End]

• Entertainment & Interviews:
  • Promotes upcoming episodes featuring Steve Schirripa (discussing his career, Sopranos, and Blue Bloods), plus a comedic appearance on Dana Carvey and David Spade’s show.
    • “Carvey goes, I feel like I'm on your show. I said, yeah, I just took over your show. And it's so funny and we need some laughs.” ([45:16] Bill O'Reilly)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On State Law & Discrimination:
  • “The essential question is, can you get booted out of a public place because you're a conservative or a liberal or a libertarian or whatever you are?... If you were Catholic or Jewish or Protestant or Muslim, you can sue. If you're trans, you can sue. But if you just hold an opinion, you lose because it's not there under the law.” ([05:12])
• On Trust and Government:
  • “You gotta be skeptical of every administration. They're gonna put forth what they want the American people to digest. This has been going on since Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.” ([25:49])
• On Iran & China’s Role:
  • “China does not want all the oil refineries bombed in Iran if it can't replace the oil.” ([14:17])
• On San Francisco Crime:
  • “The drug trafficking in San Francisco is controlled by Honduran gangs who are here illegally and are protected by the state of California.” ([43:23])
• On Public Apathy:
  • “There are millions and millions and millions of us who don't give a wit about their country, about the world, about anything but what they do every day. It is an unbelievably selfish era … driven by this, where you can create your own world.” ([07:06])
• On Long-Form Media:
  • “You know, when you interview a guy for an hour … he has to have it together or I'm going to destroy him.” ([17:37])
• On Appeasing Evil:
  • “Yes. There have been times when you make a deal knowing. Knowing that. Well, there were a lot of deals made before World War II that postponed the Armageddon. Okay, now, Chamberlain…” ([09:42])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Sarah Huckabee Restaurant Incident & Free Speech: [00:03 – 09:02]
• Negotiating with Evil, Iran Analysis: [09:03 – 19:20]
• Media Shifts & Podcasting Discussion: [19:20 – 23:08]
• Inside Info on US-Iran Dialogue: [23:13 – 32:23]
• San Francisco Crime, Sanctuary Laws: [32:23 – 34:53]
• Public Apathy & Political Outcomes: [34:53 – 43:23]
• Upcoming Entertainment Content: [43:23 – end]

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Tone and Style

The episode is classic “No Spin”: combative, direct, analytical, and sometimes caustic, but with moments of humor and promotion for O’Reilly’s other projects. It heavily features O’Reilly’s signature gruff candor, historical references, and skepticism toward both political parties.

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Transcript

[Bill O'Reilly]

Foreign

Bill O'Reilly here. Let's get started. This story about Governor Sarah Huckabee in Arkansas caught my attention. So you may have heard about it. She was in Little Rock, the capital of the state, and she went to a restaurant called the Croissants something, I can't say it for lunch, and they gave her a hard time. Here's what the governor said on fox. Go.

Unfortunately, I was there with two other moms.

[Nick Cuomo]

And as you know as well as

[Bill O'Reilly]

anybody, Sean, the battle in this country

is no longer between the left versus the right. It's the normal versus the crazy. I think the law would be on your side. It doesn't sound like you're thinking about it, but maybe you should. I mean, they're not allowed to discriminate, are they? You know, I think the market will take care of this on its own. And again, my place is to hold my head high, continue to treat people with kindness, show the great side of our state, ignore the nastiness. Okay, so you're talking about a lawsuit against this restaurant, the Croissant Something in Little Rock. So if she did, if the governor did decide to sue, would she win? No, that's the simple answer to that. She would not win. Now, this was disrespectful absolutely to the governor of Arkansas. And the restaurant did it for for political reasons. There's no doubt about it. That's what they did. They allowed her to have the meal. She was there for about 75 minutes. She had her detail, security detail, as all governors do. And then at the end of 75 minutes, the owner came over and said, hey, you're making people uncomfortable. You got to leave. Now, the state of Arkansas businesses may refuse service for rude, disruptive or unsafe behavior. That certainly wasn't in play here. And they cannot discriminate on race or color, national origin, religion, sex, age, veteran disability, pregnancy, sexual orientation, gender identity doesn't say anything about politics there. Okay, so that's a flaw in the law. Now, one of the customers in the restaurant kind of sided with the rudeness go. And I think there was a situation to where maybe a miscommunication, a misunderstanding

[Nick Cuomo]

of that time limit.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And if it exceeded that time limit, then the owners can say something, right? Well, as the owners excuse that they wanted to boot the governor of the state and her two companions out because they had finished their meal and paid and they needed the table. Nobody does that. Nobody does. No rational person does that. She's the governor. She's in your restaurant. That's good publicity for you this was purely about immigration. They don't like immigration. The owners of this restaurant, they don't want any enforcement. Huckabee Sanders is pro ice, and that's what happened. That's the truth. So you can make up any excuse you want, but in a court of law, the discriminatory situation, you know, they're going back and forth. The croissant, Terry Croissantry, I don't know it. Okay. Now, if I'm in Little Rock, I'm not going to that restaurant, obviously. And they'll lose business because Arkansas is a red state and most people want immigration enforcement. They're going to buy this, and they don't want their governor treated like this. So she's right, Huckabee Sanders, that the market will take care of this. But the essential question is, can you get booted out of a public place because you're a conservative or a liberal or a libertarian or whatever you are? Now, if you're booted because you're Catholic or Jewish or Protestant or Muslim, you can sue. If you're trans, you can sue. But if you just hold an opinion, you lose because it's not there under the law. As far as the Title 7 of the Civil Rights act should be there. This is what I'm doing this commentary for. Now, I don't want it in the Constitution, but I do want states to make their laws more fair. And state. If you're an establishment in, say, New Hampshire or Oregon or New Mexico, and you are treated in a discriminatory way, asked to leave or not seated because of an opinion you have uttered, should be able to sue. Doesn't that make sense to you? Because if not, we don't really have freedom of speech, do we? So if everybody can ice you, pardon a pun, because you believe a certain thing that you're constitutionally entitled to believe, even if you're a communist. So you're a communist. You're Mamdani. Mamdani walks into a New York City restaurant and the restaurant goes, oh, I don't serve communists here. No Mandami would say, I'm a Muslim. So he'd have a lawsuit all day long, because that's what he make it about. But if it was just a communist like de Blasio, okay, you can't. I think that is a violation of our rights. You should not be held accountable in a destructive way for your belief system, as long as you're not imposing it. Now, if Huckabee Sanders had made a political speech inside the restaurant saying, I Love ice. And then the guy would have said the matter and say, look, you can't do that here because it's not the right form and you're disturbing the customer. The customers are all this. But she didn't. She just went in for Kuroslav or whatever they have. This is purely a malicious thing. So the states, all 50 of them, should have laws that say your opinions are protected not only in the First Amendment, but from any state action that may harm you or embarrass you. I know it's a little squishy, but you can. You can word it to protect people's political points of view or other points of view. So if there's somebody who doesn't want trans guys playing soccer against women and is a restaurant, I'm sorry, we're not serving you. That person should have a legal avenue. Right? I think I'm right. The issue of the American people is a fascinating one to me because we're in the middle of a cultural change, Leland. And the change is there are millions and millions and millions of us who don't give a wit about their country, about the world, about anything but what they do every day. It is an unbelievably selfish era, again driven by this, where you can create your own world. We've never had this before. And you'll remember if you read my book Killing Patton, that the. As far as regime change is concerned, even at the end, in 1945, when the Russians were coming in from the east, they. The Allies are coming in from the west to defeat Hitler. The German people did not rise up against Hitler. No.

[Nick Cuomo]

And you made that point in the column.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The SS would mow them down and shot them dead. Right.

[Nick Cuomo]

As would the Iranian Revolution.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And that's what you're seeing in Iran.

[Nick Cuomo]

Right. As would the Islamic Revolutionary Guard. Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's interesting, but it's important that you.

[Nick Cuomo]

No, I get it, Bill. This is the question. You wrote the book Confronting Evil. In each one of those chapters, evil ended when the regime was taken down. Right. Evil continued in the Soviet Union even after Stalin died.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

So two questions.

[Nick Cuomo]

Has there ever been a time that making a deal with evil worked out?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes. There have been times when you make a deal knowing. Knowing that. Well, there were a lot of deals made before World War II that postponed the Armageddon. Okay, Now, Chamberlain.

Hold on.

[Nick Cuomo]

You're going to sit here and tell me Chamberlain at Munich was a success?

[Bill O'Reilly]

The word success never entered my mind. It postponed the armed conflict. Okay.

[Nick Cuomo]

And maybe conflict worse.

[Bill O'Reilly]

This is what I believe is in play. Now, this is what I believe is in play. Listen to me. Take notes. It is becoming apparent to the Trump administration that they are not going to be able to change the regime unless you throw 10,000 ground troops into Iran, which is never going to to happen. So the thinking is we'll make a deal. The deal will encompass inspectors going in to see that they aren't enriching uranium, no ballistic missiles, and a bunch of other things in return for a lightening up of the economic sanctions against Russia. We'll make a deal and hope that the regime. We don't even know what it is now or who's talking. We have no idea who the leadership is.

[Nick Cuomo]

You're saying we.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Nick Cuomo]

This is an old fashioned interview, Bill. You're saying we don't know. You're saying President Trump and the American intelligence apparatus doesn't know who the regime is.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm saying that we, the people don't know.

[Nick Cuomo]

Okay.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There is no identifiable person.

[Nick Cuomo]

So we should trust that President Trump is going to make a deal with a regime that is evil, that chants death to America, and we should somehow accept whatever they promise so that they can go back to get stronger and blackmail us again. Again, Chamberlain at Munich was a disaster. Why would we repeat that?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I wouldn't, because you didn't let me finish the final point. The hope is that the Iranian regime is in such disarray that after the cease fire and Hormuz opens, which would be part of it, the Persians will rise up and throw out this weakened government because that's how weak it is. That is the hope. Now, it's changed a little bit. All right. Now, I wouldn't recommend that any American agree with anything that Donald Trump says. Why would you do that? You have to be skeptical of every single administration, but you've got to use your mind and see what's in front of you. What's in front of you is not good news for Iran on any front.

[Nick Cuomo]

But hold on.

[Bill O'Reilly]

The best news for good news for that country.

[Nick Cuomo]

Right? But if you want the Persians to rise up as the Israelis are working on right now, and I'm gonna give you the last 60 seconds, you said the hope is once there is a ceasefire, once whatever regime elements are left over is able to reconstitute and get more weapons from the Chinese and sell more oil and, and get.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, that'd be part of the deal.

[Nick Cuomo]

Oh, they're going to. And they're going to live up to that deal.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Come on.

Look, if you've Got inspectors going in there, looking at all their arms components, including uranium. And they, like Saddam Hussein did, say no, then you resume military action in a harder way. Okay, but the original deal is on the hope that the country is so damaged, and it is that the people will then rise up and keep these people out.

[Nick Cuomo]

Right. So why not keep bombing and give the people some kind of COVID Because

[Bill O'Reilly]

of the economy and China. China is a big player here. 80% of all Iranian oil is sold to China. 80%. China needs oil. It gets it from Putin, it gets it from Iran. Now, I believe there's a backdoor deal being manufactured now between the Trump administration and Beijing about oil. You haven't heard China say much about Iran, but China's in there. And China does not want all the oil refineries bombed in Iran if it can't replace the oil.

[Nick Cuomo]

No, it still wants to. Still wants to go huge.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Agreed, Agreed. So we got a lot of components. There's that lot of stuff swirling around, built.

[Nick Cuomo]

I gotta run.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

The most interesting I watched was your, your new podcast. Do It. We'll do it live. The latest one with Lindsey Graham. That was the best explanation of the Iran war I have ever heard.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thank you. It's an old fashioned interview. You don't get many of them anymore. Where I went in very surgically, and we started with the word imminent because that's what the Trump administration is saying to justify the action that Iran had an imminent threat with the uranium they hold. And I thought that Senator Graham defined it pretty well. Now you can always not believe him if you don't want to. And that's what people have a tendency to do. We did identify him as a hawk. He is. But he was very convincing to me. And he certainly knows because he gets the intel just like President Trump. And he speaks to Trump a couple of times a day. So if there's ever a guy who knows what the nuke situation is inside Iran, it's Lindsey Graham.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah, everybody's gonna go watch this. It's Bill O'Reilly's new podcast. We'll do it live, the Lindsey Graham one. But he explains if you're gonna use the nuclear material for some energy or commercial purposes, it's 20%. But when you get it to where'd they have it, 60%, you're heading towards madness.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. And the real kicker on it is that the Trump administration in its negotiations before the action said to Iran, we'll pay for your nuclear ambitions to power up your country. So we'll make it happen for you. But Iran basically said, no, we're going to do what we want to do, and that's develop a nuclear weapon. So what more does anybody need? Because if you have a rogue regime like that, a theocracy that answers to no one, and they have a nuclear weapon, they can hand that weapon off on a low level situation and kill hundreds of thousands of people. But apparently half of the United States doesn't believe that or doesn't want to believe it.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And to me, it's, it's like, okay, you don't believe history, you don't believe evil, you don't believe nukes. What do you believe? And I'll tell you what they believe. Trump is the evil one that's driving all of the dissent.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Now, they did this with Bush. They hated Bush. In fact, that's where the term came from, Bush derangement syndrome. But he was a very formal politician. Trump just rattles their cage at every turn. So is that all it is? He just cranks it up like a thousand notches?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. They don't want to hear any kind of positive analysis of Donald Trump ever. And so whatever Donald Trump's involved with is wrong. And the media pushes that out on a daily basis. So Americans who don't pay attention, which is about half of us, we live in bubbles. We don't pay attention to the news. They don't really care what happens other than what happens to ourselves. So they pick up the anti Trump sentiment and then they form whatever opinion they're going to form. But they don't know what Iran is. They can't find it on a map. They don't know what a theocracy is. They don't know the details that Lindsey Graham put out. You know, when you interview a guy for an hour, which is what the long form, we'll do it live does. You know, he has to have it together or I'm going to destroy him. You know that.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

If he falters or he doesn't have it, I'm going to go in, I don't care who you are, and say, well, it doesn't stack. That doesn't make any sense. But Graham was very well organized in his thought process, and I believe him.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

No, you did it perfectly. You were the tough cross examiner. And everybody should go watch it. It's. We'll do it live. Bill O'Reilly's latest podcast. Watch the one with Lindsey Graham. Hey, and the other thing I love about this podcast, it's on a, it looks like a TV show on a set which Is great. Everybody does these podcasts now. They're in a sweater. They're in their basement, they're in a garage. I don't like that stuff. I like it the way you did it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

Again, traditional, old school, respectful. There'll be times when I don't wear a tie, but I'm not going to look like a bomb and smoke pot during the podcast. Okay? I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to have, you know, a shot of vodka in between questions. So I don't care what other people do. I've been in this business more than 50 years, have been successful in every single thing we've ever done, because I understand what the American audience wants in its pursuit of journalism. And they want honesty and they want authenticity, which is why you're successful. And that's what I provide.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Hey, explain this to me as the media expert, because all these consultants, you know, we tell you everything's quick, short form, quick, quick. How come everybody now wants to hear these long interviews, these long podcasts? What is that all about?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know. I mean, that's an excellent question. Because I didn't want to do this. My younger staff, when I say younger, under 35, they go, you got to do this. You got to get in the game. And because we were doing four nights of a hard news broadcast, we're doing three nights now, the new spin news, and one night of the long form. And I finally surrendered. I said, all right, we'll give it a shot. And we've done two of them, and they've been fabulous, successful, millions of people. And we're dropping a third on Thursday, which is. I'm going to alternate back and forth. So we got Steve Sharipa on Thursday.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Oh, I love him.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. And it's very interesting, particularly for New Yorkers, because Sharipa is a Brooklyn guy who never wanted to be a. An actor. He never wanted to be famous. And it was almost thrust upon him. Fascinating story. And he's a good guy. I know him personally. So he will drop Sharipa on Thursday.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Oh, that's going to be great. That's going to be excellent. So, yeah, he was. He was the entertainment director of the Riviera Hotel in Las Vegas.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That's right. And before that, he was a bouncer in Vegas. But he's a genuinely good guy and an honest guy. And I get into a lot of the subtleties of both the Sopranos and Blue Bloods, because you had two. Two classic guys in there. Gandolfini the lead in Sopranos and Selleck. Yeah, the Blue Bloods guy. And they were opposite guys, but they did control the venues they were in and the way and Sharipa was in both programs and really describes it very, very astutely how these guys make it to the top and the pressure on them to stay there. Wow.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Sounds fascinating. Well, you can watch this. This will be the latest podcast. It'll come out Thursday. And make sure you go watch the Lindsey Graham one. It's the best explanation of why we're in Iran. Just go to, you just go to YouTube, right, and watch it there.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, it's easy as Billowilly.com because we just have big thing and just pop it with your finger and then it appears it's free. You know, all of the podcast stuff is free. But it is a phenomenon in America that people now have the patience. I mean, this nut in Texas, Rogan.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Three, Three hours. Well, how can you sit there for, you know, an hour is my limit. I need a milkshake after that.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I talked to the president last night late, and here's what I know, Cuomo. So the United States would like to have a dialogue with Iran, but they don't know who to talk to. There's no clear leader anywhere. I mean, Omar the tent maker could show up to have the dialogue. They'd like to do it in Pakistan. They have Witkoff and Kushner ready to go, and they'd like to start dialogue to get the things that the United States feel are necessary for world peace. So that's the American component. The chaos on the other side is undefined. There's no reporting on the ground. Nobody knows really where these people are. They're all hiding. A lot of them have been assassinated. So it's very hard to quantify what they're doing. The Revolutionary Guard is pretty much in control of hurling missiles and drones in the Straits of Hormuz. They're going to run out of ordinance soon. And then you have the China factor, which is huge because President Trump doesn't want to eliminate the oil from Iran to China, particularly when he's going there in middle of May. So it's a very complicated thing. This simplistic garbage that you hear on television news in America is insulting. The administration is now waiting to see if it can get the deal that it wants. And that's where we are.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Look, I mean, that's a better read than what we're getting from the president because the president says oh, yeah, we're negotiating. He said the other day, we've got the right people that we're talking to there. Now, I haven't heard anybody else who's involved with the negotiations suggest that they suggest what you did, which is they don't really know what the state of play is on that side. But I'll tell you, you know, you say this is the misinformation, the spin. Well, you know, what goes around comes around in politics. And the president is no stranger to exaggerating things that happen for his own effect. And now we're in a position where I don't think it's fair what Senator Fetterman just said, that Democrats choose to believe the regime instead of the president. I don't think that's true from the interviews that I'm doing. But we know the regime is a bunch of liars. Bill, here's my question to you. Can you really say to the American people, you can believe President Trump?

[Bill O'Reilly]

You gotta be skeptical of every administration. They're gonna put forth what they want the American people to digest. This has been going on since Thomas Jefferson and John Adams are slugging it out. I don't understand the naive people being so naive about this. You're wrong about Schumer. Schumer had an opportunity to say, look, we backed the US Military. Wouldn't do it. And I'd love to see Schumer on the Nick Cuomo show.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Yeah, me, too. He won't come on.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Why won't he come on? Why?

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Because they choose safe harbors, just like a lot of the Republicans. No, why come on here and get slapped around when you can go get a pat on the back?

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's a coward. That's why he won't come on. He's a coward. And he's directly responsible for the TSA people not being paid because he knows that judicial warrants for every undocumented taken into custody aren't possible. Not enough judges in the country couldn't do it. He knows it. He's a coward. It's him. And he's the most powerful guy in the Democratic Party. Now, whether people will remember in November, I don't know, but it's a disgrace. Schumer is a coward. And if he's not going to come on a Cuomo show, I mean, all right, Mississippi, whatever it is, nobody takes that seriously. Why don't you just go on Daffy Duck? I mean, nobody in the world is taking that thing seriously. That's just an arm of the Democratic Party and the Progressive Movement. And that's where Chuck people stick people. Chuck has no.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

People stick to their own way.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, no, no, no, they're not. You can get Republican people to come on. I get them on all the time. I grill Lindsey Nelson, Lindsay Nelson, met announcer Lindsey Graham. You know, I grill everybody, and they still come on. Not everybody. Not everybody. But Schumer is the leader of the Democratic Party. He's a coward.

[Guest/Caller]

That's it.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

I just think it's the path of least resistance. I think they're all pack animals now. And I think that, you know, we have a real confidence problem. We have a real trust problem. Is Schumer to blame for the shutdown? Yeah, but did the president pull a deal off the table that the Republicans wanted to make?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Hold on.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Did you. Did you trust Barack Obama? What he was saying? Did you trust George W. Bush?

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

I'll tell you what, yes and yes. Trust but verify. Skeptical, as you say. Absolutely. But do I know I was being lied to on a regular basis? With Obama? No. With George W. Bush? No. With Bill Clinton? No. With George H.W. bush? No. With President Donald Trump?

[Bill O'Reilly]

You have a president.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Absolutely.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay, Double standard. Because you're a Democrat, you have a qu. You have a Democratic person. If you like a doctor, you can keep your doctor. Yes, you are.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

I'm not a Democrat. There's a difference between.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Hold on, Bill.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

There's a different. No.

[Bill O'Reilly]

First of all, I have only been

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

a registered Democrat to vote for my brother or father. Okay? I'm telling you, Bill, you're not even close on this. But that's not what matters. Well, it matters if you're making.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You were raised in a home where your father was a Democratic governor of New York. When you have a president, that change if you like him.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

I was raised by a guy.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You can keep your guy.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

You look like an atheist. I was raised by a guy who made you look like an atheist, Bill. All right, he made you look like a pansy atheist. But that's who raised me and taught me what you believe and what you don't believe. Here's what I'm saying. I don't give a damn about party politics. What I care about is this. You can keep your doctor if you want. Your doctor. He was wrong and didn't understand the implications of his own.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Bill, he was wrong.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

Shame on him. And he paid for it. There's a difference between being wrong and lying. You told me two weeks for the war. We're now on week five. You were wrong. That's not a lie. You were Wrong. Now, if you knew it wasn't going to be two weeks, and now we're in week five. Not you. I'm saying, for example, if you say two weeks for the war, which the President said, now it's been five, is that a lie? I don't think so. I think he was wrong. I don't think he knew what he was getting into. A lie is they're desperate for a deal. A lie is, we already won. Those are lies, Bill. They're lies.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, they're not. Yeah, and it's ridiculous to make that assertion already. One can be defined million ways. You just heard Senator Fetterman say that the military aspect of this conflict has been clear in the destruction of Iran. So, so you can go in and say, we won the war. Now we're trying to win the economic piece, which is different. Okay?

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

The regime still in place.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Lie, lie, lie, lie. Look, how many times did you hear Cheney and Bush lied about weapons of mass destruction? How many times did you hear that? Okay, well, the UI intel as put forth by Colin Powell. Is Colin Powell a liar? Was he a liar?

No.

Okay. He's the guy that put it forth. Okay? You're cherry picking. That's what you're doing. You're cherry picking people you don't like. They're liars. But if I like them, they're just misled.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

No, no, it's not even a close call. I'm telling you, Colin Powell. Look, if you're asking me whether or not everybody in power has lied, of course every human being lies. The question is how often, how predictably and to what degree. And if you want to put Trump on equal footing with every other president, fine. You will never find a lot of company in that position.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I analyze each situation as it unfolds. No, I analyze each situation as it unfolds. Okay? So right now, where we are is the United States would like to make a deal with Iran. I can at this point, because nobody knows who's in charge there. A deal will happen. Trump did do the right thing by going in there and emasculating their offensive capabilities. Iran, I don't know if it'll work out in history, but he did the right thing. War is complicated. I don't think he's waking up in the morning. You know, I'm going to lie to Cuomo today. I'm going to lie. You know, that's not what.

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

If you don't think he's a liar, that's fine. That's your opinion. You don't have to think.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No. A lie means that you. That you wake up and you say, here's the truth, but here's what I'm going to say. Which is opposite. Yeah. It's not what Trump does. Yeah. Not what he does. Okay. All right. Now, San Francisco, you want lives. Ho, ho. That city has collapsed social, and no one in power will admit it. There's a lie because you can see it with your eyes. One startling fact.

Cuomo.

And you didn't know because I didn't know it until I was in the Tenderloin talking to the drug addicts themselves. You know who sells the narcotics down here in San Francisco and in Oakland? Honduran drug gangs who are here illegally. You know who protects them? The sanctuary laws of San Francisco and California. They strut around armed to the teeth. Okay. Knowing that no one on the federal level can bother them. Okay. Because the state and the city won't cooperate, as almost every state does with joint task force. California won't do it. So Honduran drug gangs is in this country illegally, are fueling a massive fentanyl crisis that has destroyed the city of San Francisco. And the mayor knows it and the governor knows it and Pelosi knows it, and Kamala Harris knows it, and they never did anything about it. How about that for a headline?

[Political Analyst/Commentator]

I think it's a damning headline. And that's why San Francisco's been getting crushed and Newsom has such a big burden to try to make it as the Democratic nominee.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It was once the most beautiful city in the country. I used to love to go there. Now little children watch drug addicts inject themselves with needles in their neck as they walk to school. Now, Hondurans here illegally cut off people's hands with machetes if they don't pay their drug debts. Okay? This isn't about narcotics. This is about massive violence. Meanwhile, two miles away, Nancy Pelosi is living in an $8 million house guarded by security, so she doesn't have to experience any of it.

[Guest/Caller]

You have been tremendous with this whole Iran conflict. And the country is pretty much even, depending on the week, I think last week, 4,240 in favor. I think this week it dropped again. I don't know. But I've been on board with this from the very beginning, and not just because I'm Jewish and Israel. Stop with that. That is so anti Semitic. I believe it's about America first. I do. Are you still as high on this effort a week later on this Thursday as you were last week?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, here's the situation, and then you can evaluate where I am. So the military aspect of this is over already. And the United States and Israel won. The offensive capability of Iran has been downgraded to the extent that they're not going to be able to attack anybody on a routine basis going into the future. What's left is the uranium. And these mullahs are so insane that. That they don't want to give it up. Now, eventually they're going to have to give it up because Trump cannot back away from that. Everybody should understand this. It has to be in weapons inspectors going in, no uranium. That's it. There's no other negotiation there. Everything else, you can work it out. But the problem is there's no leadership now in Iran. Who's in charge? You know, if they have a negotiation, what is Omar the tent maker going to show up? Who's showing up? I mean, try to call and say, well, online one, well, he's dead. Line two, Deceased. Line three, we haven't seen him in four weeks. You know, they have no leadership. There's no cogent message. United States is ready to go. I talked to President Trump on Tuesday night extensively. They're ready to go because Trump understands he's got to get this done and the economy's got to snap back in order to win the midterms.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I mean, this isn't complicated stuff. No. But at the same time, he did the right thing. And anybody who says he didn't do the right thing just doesn't know history. And they don't know the danger of nuclear weapons. They just don't know it or don't care. And there are. There's a segment of people who just don't care. They don't care.

[Podcast Host/Interviewer]

Right.

[Guest/Caller]

And they believe Tucker Carlson, that anti Semite moron, and these other people. But, you know, one interesting fact here, maybe not fact, but it comes from Trump. It's fact. He says, we're talking to Iran. They say, no, no, no, we're not talking. He's lying. I believe Trump. We're talking to Iran. They want to settle this. We want to stop it. So the question is, if there's really nobody to talk to. Like, I'm hearing that Vance and Rubio are basically taking over for Witkoff and Kushner. If there's nobody to talk to, then who makes a decision in Iran to do what Trump says is going to happen, which is they're going to fold?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I don't know. The story about Vance and Rubio is not true. I came out of a newspaper called A Guardian, which is very, very bad paper. Yeah, it is. It is Witkoff and Kushner, and they're ready to go to Islamabad. It's all set up. But who. Who is Iran gonna send? I don't know. I don't know. President Trump knows.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

They're trying to get, you know, some kind of semblance of organization. But what the hope is is they'll sign the deal and Iran will be so weak, their own people will overthrow them. That's what the hope is. But it's not gonna be a regime change situation now, because the American public doesn't want infantry going into Iran. And I. I'm with that.

[Guest/Caller]

Me, too.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You cannot put those American soldiers on the ground there.

[Guest/Caller]

Agreed.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Because there are so many terrorists in the country. You're going to have an Iraq situation, which you don't obviously want.

[Guest/Caller]

100%. Well said. Let me move it back to America. You heard me talk about Gorman on the way in. I don't know how anybody. Bill, I'm sorry. I know I'm in the bag for Trump. I know how anybody could vote for a Democrat. This young girl takes a walk on the beach to see the northern lights. And this guy may have been trying to make a gang, some initiation. We don't know exactly the motive, but he takes a gun and he shoots her in the back. He murders her. He murders her. And somehow the mayor, who's a bad guy, just like Mamdani, maybe not as bad as Mamdani, but close. And the governor, they're making it about Trump, they're making it about immigration reform. I mean, can you take a day off? You got a dead young girl. Can you take a day off from being an asshole, Bill? Is that too much to ask?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Look, as long as the voters in Chicago don't care, and you can walk down the street, you can drive the Dan Ryan Expressway into town, park your car and walk around and mention this young woman's name, the loyalist student who's now dead. And I will tell you that 80% of people don't even know who she is.

[Guest/Caller]

Terrible.

[Bill O'Reilly]

This doesn't have to happen. But the politicians are allowing it to happen because they don't care. And people have a hard time believing that. But there's a venality and there is apathy at the part of many American politicians. And it goes to both parties at some point. It doesn't matter if the girl's dead or not. Pritzker is the worst governor in the country, but he's been that way for years. And he's still vote for him.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There's no excuse for it. And so as long as that happens, all you can do, responsible journalists and responsible people in the media is pointed out time after time after time. And maybe it will get through down the road, but it's certainly not getting through yet.

[Guest/Caller]

No, I mean, she still wins here. Kathy Hochul, my dear friend, our friend Bruce Blakeman running against her. She still wins. Gavin Newsom still wins. These aren't bad politicians. I know you spent some time with Gavin on that San Francisco trip, but they're the absolute worst. You know, you can really date it back to San Francisco for me at least, Bill, because I'm not the historian that you are. These crimes of illegals murdering beautiful people. Kate Steinle, I remember that blonde, beautiful face on the pier in San Francisco like it was yesterday. You can date that back to San Francisco.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Sure. And Kate's Law was killed by Senator McConnell, a Republican from Kentucky. They were all set to vote straight up down vote in the Senate on it. And he killed it because he didn't like a punk named O'Reilly, write up legislation, which I did. So look, there's corruption, but it always comes back to the people, just like in Iran. How much are you Persians gonna take over there? I mean, what has to happen before you say enough? You did it with the Shah. If you're reconfronting evil, we walk through how the Shah got decapitated over there and it's exactly the same thing. So when are you gonna get out there? And I know they're afraid and all that, but there are ways you can do things like this and boot these guys out. Why does America have to do everything, you know, and then the cowardly Europeans and, oh, it just goes on and on and on and on. But when you come down to comes down to selfishness, I want power, I want money. I don't want to pay attention. I want to be on my phone all day long. I don't want to have to hear about these terrible things. And it's all personal selfishness. If you get involved, you know what's right and wrong. There's not two sides to the story. No, Trump did the right thing in Iran.

[Guest/Caller]

Agreed.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You can't let these mad have a nuclear weapon and they can hand off to some terrorists and blow the hell out of any city they want. You can't. You just can't do that. And then you do the give the historical things about Germany and about Mao and about all these other stuff and the people's eyes glaze over. They don't want to pay attention. It's not fun.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah, you're right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I mean, oh, it just, it's so discouraging to me. But anyway, I want everybody to watch that. Tonight, 9 o' clock news nation on O'Reilly special old time reporting. Don't see that much anymore. I'm there right in the middle of it. One headline. The drug trafficking in San Francisco is controlled by Honduran gangs who are here illegally and are protected by the state of California. You will, you will jump up and down when, when you hear how bad this is.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah, I believe it. And while you're at it, while we're promoting in the last minute or two, stuff to watch from Bill O'Reilly. According to the corner of my eye yesterday, our mutual friend Bobby Bacala from the Sopranos and Anthony from Blue Bloods with Rosada Scotto talking about the, the Garden of Dreams. He does that, that show every year. Lots of laughs. And Bill's got this great new podcast out. We'll do it live. And I see a whole bunch of cool clips on Twitter with you and Sharipa. So that's got to be an amazing, amazing watch.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah. If you're a Sopranos or Blue Bloods fan, Sharipa. And it drops today on billow reilly.com this is a long form. They call it podcast. But drops today. And he really gives you the inside on Gandolfini on Tom Selleck, why CBS canceled the very successful show Blue Bloods. It's really, really good.

I can't wait.

And he himself is a friend of mine and is a good guy, great guy. He's no subterfuge, you know. Yeah, no, he's a thing is that's dropping today is I did an interview with Dana Carvey and David Spade. Wow. Where do you see this?

[Guest/Caller]

Where's this?

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's on bill o'reilly.com and it's their show. But I totally take it off.

[Guest/Caller]

No, not you, Bill.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And Carvey goes, I feel like I'm on your show. I said, yeah, I just took over your show. Okay.

[Guest/Caller]

Right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And it's so funny and we need some laughs.

[Guest/Caller]

Yep. Absolutely.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Some laughs. Yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah. Sounds great, Carvey.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah, yeah. You'll really. And so between among Sharipa, Carvey, Spade and San Francisco, I'm overexposed this weekend.

[Guest/Caller]

But all funny guys. Oh, I mean, San Francisco is not so funny, but all funny guys, those three guys and you, Bill O'Reilly, I love you. Great job. As always, thank you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Have a good weekend. Sid, thanks for having me in.

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