O'Round the World - May 10, 2026

Summary

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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: O'Round the World – May 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of "No Spin News" dives into several of the hottest topics in current American politics and media culture, with Bill O'Reilly offering his signature no-nonsense analysis. The discussion centers on the impact of radicalization through media (both social and traditional), security and journalism during national crises, the Trump administration’s handling of the Iran conflict, the Democratic Party’s internal struggles, high-profile political and media figures, manipulated news coverage, and the practical realities of American politics and elections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Legacy of Charlie Kirk and the Dangers of Media Radicalization (01:04–08:32)

• O’Reilly expresses sympathy for Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erica, who continues Kirk’s work in advocacy and public speaking.
  • Quote (Bill O'Reilly, 01:04):
    “I really feel sorry for Charlie Kirk’s widow, Erica… she continues with the Kirk legacy… that's a good thing.”
• Erica Kirk’s viral soundbite:
  • She condemns journalists for trying to insert themselves into shooting incidents, suggesting it breaks journalistic ethics and points to a broader desensitization and radicalization caused by modern media.
  • Quote (Erica Kirk, 02:16): “During an active shooting, these journalists are using their phones... fight or flight became secondary to the opportunity of putting themselves into the story... we have an even bigger problem when it comes to the systemic indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens. This is what got my husband killed.”
• O’Reilly’s Response:
  • He disagrees that journalists were seeking the spotlight (most were scared and hiding), but agrees “systemic indoctrination and radicalization” among citizens is a growing crisis, mainly driven by the unchecked spread of conspiracies and extremes through social media.
  • Quote (Bill O'Reilly, 07:06): “Now you can make up anything you want and throw it on out there... gullible people or lazy people... and the weakest among us absorb it.”
  • Points specifically to the California shooter and the influence of internet echo chambers on unstable people.

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2. Iran Conflict: Trump’s Gamble and its Political/Economic Fallout (09:26–17:09)

• O’Reilly appears on NewsNation with Leland Vittert to analyze Trump’s Iran strategy:
  • Sees Trump’s approach as “the biggest gamble of his life,” stressing the unpredictability of theocratic regimes and their indifference to human loss.
  • U.S. public opinion is strongly shaped by economic pain—gas prices at $5/gallon—and political blame, regardless of cause.
  • Quote (Bill O'Reilly, 13:13): “You can blame anybody you want, but they’re going to hold you, the voters, accountable because you’re the President of the United States.”
• Republican Strategy & Party Unity:
  • Karl Rove is quoted advising Republicans to present future agendas, not just rest on Trump’s record, but O’Reilly asserts:
    “He’s the ship. You’re either going to sail with it or go down with it.” (Bill O'Reilly, 15:22)
• Trump’s Labeling of War as “Mini War”:
  • O’Reilly downplays the significance of terminology:
    “Doesn’t matter if he calls it a mini war, Mini wheats or mini whatever, Mini me. Doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is victory...” (Bill O'Reilly, 16:36)

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3. Obama’s Return & The Democratic Party’s Leftward Drift (18:10–23:22)

• Obama as Would-Be “Kingmaker”:
  • Discussion on Barack Obama’s increased activity, aiming to rescue the Democratic Party from what the hosts see as a disastrous shift to the far left and an anti-American mindset.
  • Michel Obama is depicted as driven by emotion, Barack by intellect—a perceived divide in their approach.
  • Quote (Interjector/Producer, 19:46): “There is a segment... who believes that we are not a good country, we are not a noble nation, and we need to start all over again... Obama sees this as a disaster…”

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4. Press Ethics, Censorship, and Media Hypocrisy (27:12–28:44)

• Coverage gaps in high-profile crimes:
  • O’Reilly and co-hosts blast mainstream outlets for ignoring violent crimes involving illegal migrants, citing bias and selective reporting.
  • Quote (Interjector/Producer, 27:17): “Front page yesterday in the New York Post… They didn’t cover it.”
• Resulting Censorship and Bias:
  • American citizens are struggling to access honest, unbiased news due to editorial policies.
  • Quote (Interjector/Producer, 28:08): “It’s very hard for Americans to get the straight story anymore because a lot of times it’s just censored, just don’t tell you about it.”

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5. Breaking News: Epstein “Suicide Note” & War in Iran—Presidential Calculus (28:56–37:01)

• Epstein Case:
  • O’Reilly is skeptical of conspiracy theories, sees the suicide note (recently unsealed) as evidence of narcissism, and cautions against drawing ultimate conclusions without more access.
  • Quote (Bill O'Reilly, 29:22): “I’m not a conspiracy guy... if the note’s been validated by the courts, it shows a narcissist, not repentant for anything...”
• Iran War Decision-Making:
  • Trump’s choices change “every hour on the hour,” shaped by reactions from the Iranian regime and his own inner circle.
  • Political urgency: High gas prices and public frustration mean Trump must deliver a resolution before the midterms or risk defeat.
  • Quote (Bill O'Reilly, 30:28): “President Trump has got to understand... the growing anger in the United States... he’s got to move on it or the midterms are lost.”
• Americans’ Demand for Decisive Action:
  • The public is impatient—even dangerous, complex situations must resolve quickly or patience runs thin.

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6. Reflections on Ted Turner & Media History (35:04–37:12)

• O’Reilly’s Respect for Ted Turner:
  • Acknowledges Turner’s environmental legacy and media innovations; recounts Turner’s attempts to block Fox News’ rise.
  • Memorable moment (Bill O'Reilly, 36:47): “He said, I don’t care, we’ll squash them like a bug. That’s a quote. I got to tell you... we took note of that.”

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7. Local and State Politics; The Challenge of Campaigning and Media Coverage (47:11–53:13)

• Wealth flight from New York:
  • Discussion about high taxes, perceived hostility to successful people, and why figures like Ken Griffin might leave.
  • Quote (Marc Simone, 47:52): “You can hate me from afar... I’ll go down and make my money. It’s the same money.”
• Bruce Blakeman’s Gubernatorial Race:
  • O’Reilly notes Blakeman’s high approval in Nassau County but highlights the struggle less-known candidates face when expanding from regional to statewide politics in New York.
  • Quote (Marc Simone, 50:40): “He could win the race, but he’s got to get better known... most New Yorkers don’t know who he is... that’s going to take money.”
  • Comments on state economic and political divides, particularly between urban and rural populations.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Media and Radicalization (07:06):
  “Now you can make up anything you want and throw it on out there... gullible people or lazy people... the weakest among us absorb it.” — Bill O'Reilly

• Trump’s Iran Gamble (13:13):
  “You can blame anybody you want, but... voters... hold you accountable because you’re the President...” — Bill O'Reilly

• The Republican Dilemma (15:22):
  “He’s the ship. You’re either going to sail with it or go down with it.” — Bill O’Reilly

• On Obama’s ‘Kingmaker’ Return (19:46):
  “There is a segment in the Democratic Party... who believes we are not a good country... Obama sees this as a disaster...” — Producer

• On Political Migrants and State Policy (47:52):
  “Why would you... got some guy yelling outside your window ‘we hate you, you capitalist pig’? OK, you can hate me from afar...” — Marc Simone

• On the Value of Quick Political Victory (42:40):
  “He’s got to win it soon because his growing anger and anger is hard to dissipate… that’s what is keeping him up at night.” — Marc Simone

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Guest | |--------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 01:04–08:32 | Erica Kirk soundbite, journalism ethics, media radicalization| | 09:26–17:09 | Trump, Iran conflict, political strategy (NewsNation) | | 18:10–23:22 | Obama’s political moves, Democratic Party | | 27:12–28:44 | Crime coverage, media bias | | 28:56–37:01 | Epstein note, Iran war calculus, decisive action | | 35:04–37:12 | Ted Turner’s legacy, Fox News history | | 47:11–53:13 | NY governance, tax flight, Blakeman’s race |

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Tone & Style

• Direct, conversational, sometimes acerbic or sarcastic.
• Heavy on skepticism toward mainstream and progressive media.
• Frequent references to “facts” over “spin.”
• Clear populist/conservative perspective, but occasional self-deprecation and humor.

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Conclusion

This episode offers a robust critique of both American media culture and political dynamics, with penetrating discussion on how journalism, social media, and radicalization intertwine. O’Reilly provides unfiltered views on Trump’s handling of Iran, the future of both major parties, and the real-life consequences of editorial bias in news coverage. The show provides rich context for national and local politics leading into pivotal elections, with a blend of hard news, insider analysis, and sharp commentary.

Transcript

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[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm Bill O'Reilly. You're listening to around the World.

Let's begin. I really feel sorry for Charlie Kirk's widow, Erica. I just can't imagine the suffering with the children and all of that that this woman has endured. Now she continues with the Kirk legacy and the organization and she gives out speeches and things. She's actively involved with social media and that's a good thing. Carries on what her husband, Charlie Kirk, was doing. I came across Sound Bite and I don't live on social media. We do use YouTube a lot because of the information flow and but I'm not in there for analytical purposes. Information is what I need. But I saw a soundbite from Erica Kirk that I want to bring to your attention.

[Interjector/Producer]

Roll it.

[Erica Kirk (quoted)]

During an active shooting, these journalists are using their phones to find moments to capture for clips. They were so concerned about getting a video in a room with an active shooter that they could have accidentally and quite literally filmed themselves being shot. Many of those people have become so desensitized that fight or flight became secondary to the opportunity of putting themselves into the story, which ironically breaks the number one rule of journalism. And while we may have big problems with illegal immigration in this country, I have to tell you, we have an even bigger problem when it comes to the systemic indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens. This is what got my husband killed. This is what has led to three legitimate attempts on President Trump's life.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Very interesting comment. So Ms. Kirk was there and she was up in toward the dais in the room, huge room, 2,000 people. She was up where the President's Cabinet were. I was in transit going to my chair when the shooting broke out and told you all about that. I heard four very loud shots. Subsequently, we learned there were five. And I looked around and had a U.S. marshal standing there and got the story very quickly. I did not hit the ground, whereas almost everybody around me did. There are under the tables. Okay, so maybe down where she was, there wasn't that much of a reaction. I don't know. I couldn't see it. It's too far away from it. I do know that Wolf Blitzer was under a table and apparently he thought somebody was after him. I, I don't know. It was insane. But I didn't go down because I had to see the story. I had to get the story. And I did all right. And I gave it to News Nation. Their correspondence were there and they had it live, I don't know, within a minute. That's my job. There wasn't any self aggrandizement involved in it at all. And my son actually scolded me, goes, well, you could have got your head blown off. And I said, you know, this isn't a first time that could have happened. But my job is when I'm in a zone where there is a major story happening, I have to see the story. I can't be ducking. And that's my philosophy. I could be wrong. And I'm not criticizing Erica Kirk for saying that these people become so desensitized they want to put themselves in a story. I did not see it that way. I thought they were scared. And then when the Secret Service ran into the room, which is only about, had to be 45 seconds after the shots, they were in there, okay, running down the aisle toward the president. So I didn't see that the press was macho, ended up wanting to find out what happened. I saw them under the table, most of them, and some of them were quivering. Not going to name any names. Why would I do that? Okay. But the second point that Erica Kirk makes is the more important point, the indoctrination and radicalization of our own citizens. That's happening particularly among younger people with not much life experience. And it's happening because of social media, whereby when I was coming up, Even during the O'Reilly Factor, you didn't have this cacophony Tower of Babel on your machine, on your device. This industry has only developed the last five years where you get these crazy pundits saying it's crazy stuff and they all yell at each other and they're trying to make money and get attention. That's new. So when I was reporting for ABC and CBS and then subsequently analyzing for Fox, my job was I had to deal with the facts. And if I didn't, if I made stuff up, it was. And I didn't, of course, but there were people who did, and they got it. Woodshed time.

Okay?

Now you can make up anything you want and throw it on out there and in. Gullible people or lazy people. Oh, look at this. It was a conspiracy. The three assassination attempts were a conspiracy. That's out there. People are peddling that along with a whole bunch of other crazy conspiracy stuff. And the weakest among us, mentally, emotionally, the weakest absorb it. And this nut from California who ran down into a lobby with a loaded weapon under some delusion he could get to the President, and I've said this before, there's no way this man could even get near the President. The way that whole thing was structured in D.C. there's no way anybody would have known that. All you had to do is just stroll right through the lobby. And he could have, because he was staying at the hotel. And you could say, I'll never get down there. But he did it anyway. And he writes this loopy manifesto trying to justify what he did.

Okay?

Before the action. This guy's a loon. And I mean that literally. Now, was he incited by social media?

Good chance.

The people. The guy who killed Charlie Kirk's. Charlie Kirk. I think he was incited. Absolutely think it was. And Trump is Trump. So I disagree with Erica, who I do not know, but I'm disagreeing with her in a holistic way that the journalists were trying to insert themselves in the story. They were scared, most of them. But I agree with her that the radicalization of people in America is on the rise because of irresponsible media, both social and traditional. Here's my NewsNation appearance with Leland Vitter

[Leland Vittert]

said this in the tease to our segment tonight. I said, can Trump afford to restart the war or can he not afford to restart the war? Can he afford not to restart it? Which one is it?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, it's both. Because if there's an opportunity to nail this thing down so that the mullahs allow weapons inspectors in to examine the uranium and ballistic missiles, which is what has to be in any treaty, the other things will fall into place. Now, to get them there is very difficult, exceedingly difficult. And I said at the beginning of this, and you remember it, biggest gamble President Trump's ever taken his entire life on anything. Yeah, because it's not like Venezuela, it's not like other countries, a theocracy. It's fascism. They don't care whether they live or die or their people live or die. However, they don't really have a lot of resources left, the Iranians. But are they going to go down,

pardon the pun, with the ship?

Are they going to do that? That's what the President is waiting to see, whether they will at least give

the world a break.

And I just. You can't call it. You just can't call it.

[Leland Vittert]

No, look, I think the way they're trying to sell this is interesting. Kelly's reporting was fantastic. Marco Rubio, Pete Hegseth both briefing tomorrow and. And an appearance by President Trump. And every time he sort of says, hey, look, it's short. Gas prices are gonna come down, we'll put some of the prices that we are all experiencing up on the screen at this point for public opinion. Does it matter what Trump and the administration say? Or does it really only matter how Americans feel every day economically?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Matters to 50% of the country. 50% of the country, according to polling. If good news is delivered, we'll accept the good news. And overall, they understand why the conflict is happening. The other half hates Trump, or they're Democrats and they want, you know, power in the midterms. They have a lot of other agendas swirling around there. So about half the country is still listening to the President and his cabinet, I think.

[Leland Vittert]

Okay, half the country. You can win an election with half the country in terms of that, though. GOP leaning independence 73% in term one now down to only 53% in term two. Now, you make the point that that could bounce back if we get good news. The other way to try to get it to bounce back is to remind people of how much worse it could be, say, under Joe Biden, which is where part of Trump's team has gone. Take a listen.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Jet fuel prices have gone up. This story was not written because of the Iran war. This story was written years ago because of what Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden people.

To judge the withholding by the Biden vegans of literally millions, millions of acres of grazing land.

[Katie]

The last administration moving cattle, doing everything they could to basically eviscerate the cattle industry.

[Bill O'Reilly]

This is just more of the mess

[Interjector/Producer]

we inherited from the Biden administration.

[Marc Simone]

Bill.

[Leland Vittert]

Whether they're right or whether they're wrong. The irony, of course, is this was the same argument made by Democrats in 2022. None of these problems were Joe Biden's fault, and they may not have been, but the American people held him responsible. Is there any reason to think they're going to do something different with Donald Trump?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, that's not going to work. It's never worked. If you look back at administrations that got into trouble, Lyndon Johnson, Vietnam, Carter with Iran, Nixon, you can blame anybody you want, but they're going to hold you, they, the voters, accountable because you're the President of the United States.

That's it.

So going back to how bad the Democrats are and poor Biden's leadership was not going to get you any votes. What will is if there is a victory and then the oil prices go down quickly, which both are very possible. And I'm rooting for both.

That'll help.

But if you're going to go back to history, that's not going to do

it, in my opinion, my humble opinion here.

[Ted Turner (quoted)]

Leland.

[Leland Vittert]

Yeah, we know many things. You're noted for your humility, Bill, I think about what Cuomo said the last hour. You can argue with him about this on Wednesday. But he said he's for America winning, and America winning is winning the war against Iran, putting the mullahs in their place, reopening the strait, getting some kind of result when it comes to the nuclear material and the like. The question's going to be for Republicans, though, how quickly that happens. The timeline clearly is why we're seeing this pressure and action by President Trump. That said, yours and my former colleague at Fox News, Karl Rove, made the point that Republicans at some point are going to have to make a choice between sticking by the president and acknowledging the pain of the American people. Take a listen.

[Karl Rove]

They got to show they have another act. Not just vote for me because of what I've done, but vote for me because of what I want to do. Here's the agenda that I'm going to work hard for in my next term. And that agenda has to come from them. Can't be given from the leadership, can't come from the president. It has to come from them.

[Leland Vittert]

Is there room for Republicans to move away from Trump?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No. That's the answer to that question. No.

[Marc Simone]

No.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's the ship. You're either going to sail with it or go down with it. What Rove is talking about is that he wants the individual people running for office in November to be better campaigners, to connect with the voters in an emotional way. And of course, that would be best

for the Republican Party if that were were to happen.

But if you think that you can Cut loose the most charismatic populist president in the last 50 years.

You're crazy.

You can't. And if you try, you're going to get slaughtered.

[Leland Vittert]

You say he's charismatic and populist. There's nobody who is, I think, a better or loves the presidency more than Donald Trump does. No more accessible president that I've ever covered or known of. But he keeps minimizing the war. He calls it a mini war. Take a listen.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Like we have a war right now. And went to like, what, six weeks, they said. What's taking so long? We were in Vietnam 19 years. Our country's booming now despite the fact that we're in a. I call it a mini war because that's all they are.

[Leland Vittert]

Last 30 seconds, Bill. Should he be calling it a mini war?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Doesn't matter

[Leland Vittert]

what the president says.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter if he calls it a mini war. Mini wheats or mini whatever, Mini me. Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is victory number one. And then the fruits of that victory,

which would be a relief on all

prices, they would go down.

[Leland Vittert]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We made Middle east descriptions of what's happening in Persian in the Persian Gulf,

even the Straits of Hormuz.

Most Americans have no idea what you're talking about.

[Leland Vittert]

Bill O'Reilly, thank you very much.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Here's my weekly appearance with W O R S Marc Simone.

[Sid Rosenberg]

So your latest We'll Do It Live. I'm look, the guest is Sid Rosenberg. That's amazing. You landed Sid. You know, he's a very shy guy. Doesn't usually like a lot of attention. But you got him, huh?

[Marc Simone]

Yeah.

[Interjector/Producer]

I had to stand on his front lawn and demand that he come out to do We'll Do It Live. Worked out very well. He's got a very compelling story for everybody. Almost committed suicide at one point. And, you know, storm back and taking control of himself, which Americans need to hear that. So we're happy that we could do that, that long form. And then we have Chaz Parliamentary coming up.

[Marc Simone]

Oh, on Thursday.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. Great guy. And yeah. So take a listen. We'll do it live as the podcast. Just go to billorilly.com you can get the link there. Barack Obama, who was all forgotten about, is suddenly all around. Why is he back? What is he up to?

[Interjector/Producer]

Wants to be a kingmaker for the Democratic Party in 2028. He's still very actively involved in Democratic politics, whereas Michelle is not. Michelle liked to dump the whole thing. But Barack Obama is a very smart guy and he Knows he'll never say it. Maybe if I grill them. But he knows the Democratic Party's going down the chute and he thinks he might be able to save it. So he's starting to up his visibility a bit.

[Sid Rosenberg]

So you mean it's going down the chute by going so far to the crazy left and he wants to pull it back to the center?

[Interjector/Producer]

It's actually more than that. You know, that's the prevailing wisdom, that the progressives are taking it over and they want the trans guys playing with the women on the soccer field or whatever it may be. But it's really more than that. There is a segment in the Democratic Party, rather large one, who believes that we are not a good country, we are not a noble nation, and we need to start all over again with everything, including the Supreme Court. You know, just knock it all down,

[Marc Simone]

throw it all out, burn it all up.

[Interjector/Producer]

And that is catching on with some young people who can't seem to pay their bills because, A, they don't plan it, B, they don't really live in the realistic world where they think they're going to go out and make $300,000 a year. They're not. So Barack Obama sees this, sees this trend that began with AOC and Bernie Sanders now taking on momentum, and he sees this as a disaster because most Americans are not going to subscribe to this. I believe New York City is different than the rest of the country. And we have a guy as mayor who believes this fervently. That's what Mamdani believes. We are not a noble nation and that he's going to crush every kind of tradition that he can while he's in office. Obama sees that as dangerous.

[Sid Rosenberg]

It's fascinating. But you know who one of the worst was at that was Michelle Obama. So if Barack couldn't cure his own wife, how's he going to cure the Democratic Party?

[Interjector/Producer]

Well, I don't know anything about whether he's going to cure anything. I'll tell you that. Michelle Obama is all emotion.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Interjector/Producer]

And Barack Obama is all intellect. They don't cross over. So whereas Michelle Obama made mistakes in her rhetoric, at times, it was emotion driven. When Barack Obama makes a mistake, that comes out to hurt him, like the guns and Bibles line. That was not emotional. I mean, that's who he sees the opposition as. You know, the guns and Bible people.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. Well, when you want to get something done, an emotional person isn't the right choice. And an intellectual is usually kind of useless.

[Interjector/Producer]

Yeah. But Barack Obama's Got cachet in the Democratic Party far more than anyone else.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's interesting. So, but, you know, as the first black president, here's the guy who really could have helped really heal the nation. And in many ways he didn't. It was, he wasn't successful at that.

[Interjector/Producer]

They all get trapped, including President Trump. They all get trapped in trying to please their most fervent supporters rather than stepping back and say, look, this is my role in history. This is, I want, this is what I want to do for the country is what I want to accomplish. Then that other equation comes in, but I got to make sure that Chuck

[Marc Simone]

Schumer is down with it.

[Interjector/Producer]

You can't do that. You got to go up against the establishment because the establishment is basically the cause of most of our problems here. It's not the individual Americans. Most, most of us are hard working people with a pretty good vision. It's the establishment that runs up a $40 trillion national debt, not the guy living down the street. And I think Barack Obama fell into that category where he wanted to do certain things that would have been very good for the country, but he got trapped in the actual swamp politics.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah.

[Interjector/Producer]

And that hurt him, you know.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Bill O'Reilly, when you want to think or get something done, you probably go in your office, close the door, you're all alone. But you've been in the White House. The president never really alone. There's a thousand people coming and going. There's a million assistants. How hard is it to think straight when you're sitting there in the White House?

[Interjector/Producer]

Well, he's got all night because he doesn't sleep. So he's wandering around up there all night in his second floor residence.

[Leland Vittert]

I don't know.

[Interjector/Producer]

You know, every time I speak to President Trump, he's very clear and cogent on what he wants to do. He's not foggy like Biden and he's not equivocating like even Ronald Reagan did sometimes, you know, and a border would be a great example of a, of a Reagan equivocation. He didn't think it out. Trump knows what he wants to do, but sometimes he doesn't know how to get there. Yeah. And that's what I said in this Iran thing when I said, and I could have been on your show. That is the biggest gamble that Donald Trump's ever taken in his life.

[Marc Simone]

Anything.

[Interjector/Producer]

Because the uncertainty of the opposition, the Muellers, who do not care whether their people live or die, then you're putting them into a category that's almost impossible to deal with. If somebody doesn't care about their own people, then you have very little leverage over them. And that's what we're seeing now. Trump would love to make a deal. He has made very good offers to the mullahs where they could rebuild their country. All they have to do is with the weapons inspectors and they won't even do that.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah, well, I don't know how it plays out.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, he's not a politician. He's a billionaire entrepreneur. And those guys, you know, they'll go way out on a limb. They'll take a gamble, they'll pull the trigger on an idea. But they also know how to bob and weave and in the middle of chaos figure out a way out. So don't you think it'll all end well?

[Interjector/Producer]

I don't know. You know, he doesn't have much time now because $5 a gallon of gas is coming by Memorial Day and people are really cheat off. They don't understand Iran. They don't care about Iran. They don't want to hear about Iran anymore.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah, it's a tough one.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Bill O'Reilly, what is Marco Rubio doing going to see the Pope? What's that all about?

[Interjector/Producer]

That's detente. So it doesn't do anybody any good to have a feud between the Pope and the president. And then Meloni, the prime minister of Italy, was a big Trump supporter and, you know, came down on the side of the Pope. She almost had to in Italy. And Rubio is a very good negotiator, I think. And he's going over there to make everybody friends again. And I think he's going to be successful in doing that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Oh, that's interesting. Can we do that with you and Gavin Newsom? Are you guys.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah, anytime.

[Interjector/Producer]

You know, I posted a thing from then Mayor Newsom in San Francisco where he demanded I get fired off the Jimmy Kimmel stuff. There's so much hypocrisy in the media. Let me just tell you a quick one wor listeners might be interested interested in. Yeah, there was a savage murder out here on Long island over the weekend. A mother of three and another woman knifed to death by an El Salvadoran migrant. Okay. Front page yesterday in the New York Post.

[Marc Simone]

Front page and horrific news.

[Interjector/Producer]

They didn't cover it. Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Interjector/Producer]

And it just shows you how the press no longer does the press even pretend. Newsday would like to have amnesty for illegal aliens. That's what the editorial policy of the paper is. The New York Post would like to throw every one of them out of here. So therefore you get that kind of news coverage. And when I was, when I was going over this, I went, oh, my

[Marc Simone]

God, you don't cover the story

[Interjector/Producer]

in Long Island. And that's where we are. And it's very hard for Americans to get the straight story anymore because a lot of times it's just censored, just

[Marc Simone]

don't tell you about it.

[Interjector/Producer]

So with Donald Trump and Imran, I don't know how that's gonna come out.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, but News Day's always been very slanted, very to the left and.

[Interjector/Producer]

Yeah, but that's really egregious. Yeah. I mean, really, A mother of three stabbed to death at a Wendy's and then the guy stabs another woman to

[Marc Simone]

death and you don't cover it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yeah.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Cause it's an illegal.

[Marc Simone]

You've been around a long time, Simone. Yeah. I mean, you gotta cover it, but

[Interjector/Producer]

that's how the press is dissolved.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Listen to me as I join NEWS nation.

[Katie]

We're going to get to a lot, but first we have to ask you about the breaking news tonight that Jeffrey Epstein allegedly left a suicide note. It was released by a federal judge. His cellmate, who is named Nicholas Tartaglioni, said that he found the note in July 2019 after Mr. Epstein was found responsive. I think it's strange that we're seeing it come out now, but what say you?

[Bill O'Reilly]

I'm not a conspiracy guy, Katie. As you know, if the note is been validated by the courts, it shows a narcissist not repentant for anything.

And that's the mark of a narcissist.

But I don't think this has much to do with the case itself except in a conspiracy realm that somebody killed them, they marched in there. Whatever you're going to hear that the note is a fraud, I don't know. But it's hard for an analyst who doesn't have access to all of this stuff to make any really cogent comments on it.

[Katie]

Yeah. Like you said, it's an official court document that was released by a judge. So they probably went through some kind of verification process. Let's get to now more urgent matters, matters that are happening right now, the war in Iran, of course, President Trump seems to be at a crossroads. Either he's going to make a deal with the regime or go back and try to finish the job. Militarily, they're looking for a diplomatic solution. You know the president very well. Are you hearing anything about what he wants to Do?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, because it changes every hour on the hour. Basically, he's got reporters that are working for him, Witkoff and Kushner, and they're briefing him on what the reaction is from the Iranians they have access to. But every hour on the hour it changes. And President Trump has got to understand, he's a smart man. The growing anger in the United states and people, $5 a gallon, they don't really understand this Iran stuff anyway. Very complicated. And so the President knows he's got to move on it or the midterms are lost. So that's where we are.

[Katie]

But what about the argument that midterms maybe A, may not be lost, but B, that they were lost anyway, so he should finish the job that he started. And he keeps saying we'll get a nuclear free Iran in return for some short term pain here, something that we've been wanting to do for years. A legacy item.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, it's a valid point. So if there is a Pentagon strategy that would eliminate the mullahs from enriching uranium, then I'm all for it. Every American should be for it. Do you think, Wait, what kind of moron are you if your gas problem overtakes the threat of a nuclear device? However, once you hear over and over and over and over something that turns out to be delayed, then people get angry, they're starting to get annoyed, and that's what's happening.

[Katie]

Yeah, we know Americans like decisive action, which is why it was so impressive the President decided to take these actions and the first place. But do you actually think that the Iranians are willing to make a good faith diplomatic agreement here? I mean, just given what we've known about the deals of the past and how they've cheated their way through the system forever, can we really trust that we're at the end of the road here and that we wouldn't just be back where we are in 10 years?

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, you can't trust Iran to do anything, but you can trust live to fight another day. And if this thing continues to hurdle, I wouldn't say it's out of control. I mean, I think the Pentagon knows what its options are. I don't get the debrief, so I don't know. But the growing anger of Americans not understanding what's happening because it changes so often, that is a political calculation that has to be taken into account. It's not all about just bombing the hell out of somebody, is about making sure that we get what the President promised. That is, Iran is not going to have a Nuclear weapon. That is the key to all of this.

[Katie]

Let's move back to where we were a couple of weekends ago. We were both at the White House Correspondent's Dinner when of course, that armed man tried to storm into the ball room. His goal was to assassinate President Donald Trump. He's been charged with that. He also wanted to go after a number of his cabinet officials. There's a new DHS report that shows that the Ron war may have been a motive for the suspect. What do you make of that?

[Bill O'Reilly]

Of course.

I mean, all anti Trump propaganda, the hatred directed toward the man affects mentally unstable people. And I think that's what this guy in California is, all right. It just gives them a justification to do heinous things. And they say, well, I'm virtuous. I'm a virtuous guy because I believe this or I believe that, you know, they live in crazy worlds that they manufacture through the Internet and things like that. But of course. But I'm not going to tell you, nobody could, that if there weren't any action in Iran, this guy wouldn't have done the same thing. He's unstable.

[Katie]

Exactly right.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He hates Trump.

[Katie]

We ought to run, Bill. But I want to ask you about Ted Turner. Of course, the media mogul. He was famous for founding networks like CNN. Passed away at the age of 87. You didn't always agree with him, but you were able to sit down with him for some great debates over the years. Let's take a look at one of those.

[Ted Turner (quoted)]

Is America a good country? It's a great country. Are we exploitative overseas? Is the war on terrorism largely our fault? No, I wouldn't say largely, but I think if we stop bombing people and sent doctors and scientists and engineers around the world, that we'd make a lot more progress and we wouldn't have near as much terrorism in the world as we do. I think bombing just makes people angry and they want to bomb you back. Well, I think they bombed us first. I'm not apologizing for my political views. I've come to them after a lot of careful thought and study and research. And I consider myself a progressive, not a liberal.

[Katie]

Bill, your thoughts on the progressive? Ted Turner.

[Bill O'Reilly]

I kind of like Turner, did a lot of good things environmentally. Bought up a lot of land for protection out west. He made perhaps the biggest mistake in broadcast history. You're a little girl, Katie. 1996, Fox News comes on the air. And I was there, and Turner was trying to keep us off the air in New York City, particularly used every bit of power he had to keep Fox News off the air. He didn't want the competition for cnn. And then when we broke through that, thanks to Rudy Giuliani, the mayor, he said, I don't care, we'll squash them like a bug. That's a quote. I got to tell you inside the main players at Fox News, we took note of that.

[Katie]

I bet you did.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That was a big, big motivator.

[Katie]

Yeah.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And subsequently, broad ass broadcast history turned around and FNC crushed them.

[Katie]

Yes.

[Bill O'Reilly]

So Mr. Turner, respect him. 87 years old. He had a good life. But he did make one huge mistake in the media.

[Katie]

Well, I guess nobody's perfect, right? Bill O'Reilly, thank you so much for joining us. Great to see you and thanks for your thoughts about Ted Turner.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio Radio.

[Sid Rosenberg]

He's got this new podcast to do it live, which I was honored, I really was, to be a guest of his. Very surreal for me about last week. It dropped a week ago today. It's doing big, big numbers. Over a hundred thousand last I checked this morning. Big numbers. So, Bill O'Reilly, the best of all time and still the best. Thank you again for having me on the, on the podcast. And it looks like at least numbers wise, it may have paid off.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah. I mean, you're a big, big shot now, Rosenberg. Big shot. Remember the Billy Joel song?

[Sid Rosenberg]

That's, you know, I was, no, I was nervous. I'm like, I was like, I can't get killed by Jeanine Piro or Rob Schneider or Steve Shapiro or Lindsey Graham. I got to at least Shapiro, I should say. I got to at least be competitive. So I was, as you know, I called you once or twice. I was actually checking the numbers every day.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah. But you have a very good story to tell. We told it and you know, on a number of different levels. So I appreciate you doing it. Now we got Chaz Parliamentary. He drops today.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Nice.

[Marc Simone]

And he's got some very interesting stories. Nobody's ever heard about his climb from the Bronx to prominence. Do you realize his show A Bronx Tale. And I don't know if you've seen it, but it's brilliant. Really is.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I have. Many times.

[Marc Simone]

37 years.

[Sid Rosenberg]

That long.

Wow.

[Marc Simone]

That show has been viable. Yeah. 30. And, and he's going to London to do in Leicester Square, do the show. Oh, wow. And I go, why? Why would people in London want to care about Bronx Italian guy, you know, trying to write the ship and it's got that quality about it. And he's A good guy, you know. And Chad, love. He's a good guy.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Love him. And, you know, because of that show, there was a great movie with him and De Niro. There was an amazing Broadway show.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah. And see, the Niro doesn't. He doesn't run around on a movie set. So with his crazy philosophy. And Chad is the first guy that told me that he doesn't try to impose, you know, his nutty view of life. De Niro's.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, but let me stop you for a second. But the reason why is because a Bronx Tale was made long before Donald Trump was president. And even the staunchest of Democrats were not retarded like they are now. That all came with President Trump. That's when De Niro lost his mind.

[Marc Simone]

Yeah, but he was really far out there before Trump came on the scene as far as his view of how the country should run. So, anyway, I noted your conversation with Stephen A. He's making a few mistakes, and I hope he's listening now, because it's my job in life to make sure that you, Stephen A. And Cuomo are all in positions to succeed. And sometimes you wander.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Yes.

[Marc Simone]

Off the path of success and I have to drag you back on like a boy scout. So unlike sports, politics does not have a last game approach in the sense that it doesn't matter what you did in the last game. It doesn't matter at all. What matters is what you're doing now to win the game today that you're playing. So, yeah, you got. You hit two home runs on Monday. Nobody cares about that on Wednesday. Not the same in politics. So what President Trump is facing now is that he's got to do two things. Number one, bring the Iranian situation to a successful conclusion. Now, no matter what he does, the Trump haters are going to say it's a lousy deal and he blew it. But most Americans aren't under that banner. If he gets a treaty or whatever they want to call it and says weapons inspectors are going to get in there and we're going to blunt this nuclear ambition, that's a win.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Let me stop it for one second because I agree with the first part. Okay? But again, when I keep harping on because you're saying it's a win, is time matters. It does matter.

[Marc Simone]

But listen to me. So that's a win. Now, whether the campaign to get there was worth the win, they call it a Pyrrhic victory. Okay, that, yeah, okay, we won, but it wasn't worth the price. That's what Trump has to Calculate. And that's why it's such a difficult situation now for him.

[Sid Rosenberg]

So is it fair then, even if you love Trump like I do, to worry about the last portion you just mentioned, that it's taking too long or that it costs too much or all

[Marc Simone]

of those things, and that's what is keeping him up at night. So he knows he's got five months to convince the American people that his administration is better for them. And he's got a big advantage because the Democrats are ridiculous. And so there aren't people clamoring for any Democratic politician. And in the House and Senate runs, it's the same thing. So all of these people tie themselves to progressive policies, which have turned out to be disastrous across the board. There's really nothing to root for there. But if Trump gets his victory, then you definitely will see the economy just explode in a good way. So the oil prices are going to. Will go down, inflation will go down. All of these things will happen because they're artificially pumped up. Also not real. This is just. Well, we're charging $5 a gallon because Iran, you know, is doing X. And so Trump does have. He can get momentum to swing into November. So for Stephen is out of wax and they're not coming back. I was saying that's a tough bet. That is a very tough bet. But he's got to win it soon because his growing anger and anger is hard to dissipate. So people are going, look, I don't understand this anyway. And they don't, okay. And now I got to pay all this money. And Trump told me he's going to do no foreign wars. That's all they can think about. And they repeat it over and over and over and over. So Trump knows you got to get out of there. And that brings me back to my initial point. And you'll remember this. I said when this story began, I also had a conversation with the president about it. This is your biggest gamble ever. This or anything, because not like Venezuela. It's not even like China. I mean, these people have nothing to lose. They don't care whether their own people die or starve. It's like the Chinese in 1949, Mao Tung killed 10 million of his own people. He did not care. It's the same mentality. So you're not dealing with somebody who wants a deal, might make a deal. You could force them. And I noticed a French aircraft carrier, the only one they have, I think it's named the Crusade, is now going to the Persian Gulf. So behind the scenes. Trump's making progress in uniting somewhat and we'll see how the pope conversation goes. The world against Iran, which is a key.

[Sid Rosenberg]

The pope conversation has become interesting, too, because now Marco Rubio got involved and is trying to, I guess, broker peace.

[Marc Simone]

Best guy to have involved. Yeah. You don't want Hegseth over there, you know, throwing water on a pope. That's not good. We don't. We don't want that.

[Sid Rosenberg]

No, we don't. No, we don't. So. So this overwhelming is really his theme, Stephen A. Was that in his mind at least, and he still nicks first. But he's a smart guy, very smart. In his mind at least. The Republicans have already lost the midterms and it wasn't just Iran. He talked a lot, Bill O'Reilly, about something you've actually criticized before, and that is the president's decorum. Was he overstating that?

[Marc Simone]

I don't think that anybody who voted for Donald Trump really cares about the decorum issue. How could they? So he's run three times and he had 77 million voters the last time around. Waxing Kamala. I don't think one of those people gives a hoot about is decorum because they all know that he's bombastic. That's why he's where he is.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Marc Simone]

So why would that factor in now? Are you just figuring it out that the guy is Bella coast sometimes?

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Marc Simone]

Come on.

[Sid Rosenberg]

I know it's stupid. Hey, let me ask you this. If Ken Griffin called you today, he should because you're a very respectful guy, very successful guy, one of the great New Yorkers. When I line up all the great New Yorkers, you're right there at the top, Bill. And he said, Listen, man, this 6 billion, this mayor is really a jerk. And he put my life in danger. He did a video in front of my house. And there are cities like Miami, which Bill O'Reilly, you know very well, that'll be gracious, and they want the money there. And why am I going to waste my time with this guy? He's 5.4 billion in the hole and for some reason he feels the need to embarrass me. What should I do? What would Bill O'Reilly say?

[Marc Simone]

I'd say move.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Marc Simone]

You know, I mean, Mamdani is not going to change like Trump. Not going to change. He's a communist. He's like Mr. Met,

[Interjector/Producer]

you know, we got it.

[Marc Simone]

We got a idea. News communists. I think the Philly fanatics are communists, but I'm not sure. So you know, look, Griffin standing there, and he's got an enormous operation, and when you have enormous wealth and resources, you can pick and choose where you want to be. All right? That's America. And so why would you got some guy yelling outside your window, we hate you, you capitalist pig. Okay, well, you can hate me from afar to go down and make my money. It's the same money.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Marc Simone]

And, you know, maybe you'll wise up someday, so. But I don't. I'm not. You know, Hannah is on me all the time about moving out of New York. I can't move out of New York and business and all that, but even if I could move out of New York, I don't really want to move out in New York. I mean, this is my legacy here. This is the home team. Where I am now, I'm a different city. I'm Nassau county in Suffolk, so I'm not dealing with the city craziness, but I don't want to flee the state. And that's what makes me angry about the leadership from Albany into New York City, because they don't care whether I leave.

[Sid Rosenberg]

They want you to leave.

[Marc Simone]

What do you mean?

[Sid Rosenberg]

They're encouraging. They're actually. Kathy Hogle actually said, get on a plane.

[Marc Simone]

I stand corrected. They'd love to have me out of here. Okay. Because I'm a capitalist pig.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Right.

[Marc Simone]

You know, somehow we flash back to 1968.

[Interjector/Producer]

Unreal.

[Marc Simone]

You know, I'm X, Y and Z. And you are successful. So you're evil. I mean, that's the kind of mentality these people bring.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Unreal.

[Sid Rosenberg]

You know, you're a success. It's terrible. So one more being that you are from Nassau county, your Nassau county executive, Bruce Blakeman, was in the Oval Office with President Trump for 90 minutes yesterday, and they discussed a variety of issues. He's gotten overwhelming endorsements from President Trump and his race against Kathy Hochul. And look, he was gaining quite a bit. Now he's down three points this week. To me, it's like radio ratings. Like, take it easy. Don't make yourself crazy every day and every week. It all comes out eventually. But, you know, the. The ratings for this week, at least, the. For Blakeman, he's down three points. He's now down 16. What are your real thoughts on his possibility of winning that race?

[Marc Simone]

Well, he's. He could win the race, but he's got to get better known. If you look at the polling that most New Yorkers don't who he is, and that's going to take money to Go and visit every county and to, you know, stir up the potential voters. And he said, look, this is what I've done because I can attest, and this is no politics involved with this. Nothing. Labor's a very good job in Nassau County. And you know me, I mean, I'm pretty critical.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Marc Simone]

And as far as crime is concerned, as come as protecting people, looking out to what the best case scenario is for workers. And he's done a very good job here. But people in Mohawk, in, you know, the Finger Lakes, see, we New Yorkers, we don't. We think this is like, why, this is the Yukon, the Finger Lakes in Alaska. We have no idea where they are. Okay. They don't know Blakeman. All right? And he's got to get known because this is what could put him over the top. He's got to fight the city vote and the city. I wouldn't spend a day in there if I were him. You're not going to get. You'll get Staten island, but you're not going to get the other boroughs because the poor people want stuff and stuff comes from the communists. And Mandan is a communist. That's what it is.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Just nailed it. You just nailed it exactly right. So. And he does do his fair share of travel up there. I think it's understated what he does, but to your point, because I love the guy. Gnome did something a couple of days ago where they asked people on the streets about Bruce. I didn't know. So if that's an issue in Brooklyn or Manhattan, that's got to be a major issue in Utica or Rochester.

[Marc Simone]

Right. And it's hard to travel by covered wagon up there. It takes a long time. And, you know, westward. Oh, is that the Erie Canal? And it's beautiful. You said earlier in the program Saratoga, beautiful. You know, New York state's a beautiful state.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marc Simone]

I mean, but you got some people, they're, you know, living in lean tos in the Adirondacks, and it's hard for them to get the message.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It is rough.

[Sid Rosenberg]

Yeah. Monticello is not great either. Listen, Bill, you're the. The absolute greatest. I love these, and I look forward to doing again next week. Bill o', Roddy, thank you so much.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Thank you for joining us. Become a Bill O'Reilly.com Premium member today, and I hope you subscribe to my YouTube channel. YouTube.com billoweilly.

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