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Bill O'Reilly
I'm Bill O'Reilly. You're listening to around the World. Let's begin. I don't like to be a repetitive guy, but this is a very interesting story, both socially and economically. Jimmy Kimmel and Walt Disney. Now, you may remember when Kimmel in September accused MAGA people of being part of Charlie Kirk's assassination. He was suspended by Disney for about a week. It wasn't much of a punishment and Kimmel made the most of it. I cut up some slack. I said, ah, maybe he made a mistake. You know, people misspeak. I certainly have over my career. But that was a mistake giving Jim some slack because now there is no question the man is not a comedian, not a satirist, none of those things. He is a hater. So you can imagine if there were a right wing host on late night or morning, whatever attacking Barack Obama the way Kimmel attacks the Donald Trump, a person wouldn't last a week. There'd be an outcry. The companies would fire the person, whatever it may be. You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. But Walt Disney stands behind Jimmy Kimmel.
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Why?
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Let me give you a couple of examples of Kimmel's hatred. This was March 20, 2025, quote, quote, Today happens to be Baron Trump's birthday turn 19 years old, which means Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels just turned 18 years old in eight months. Barron's got some. So he attacks a 19 year old. Kimmel does. Very nice. Right? I'll give you one more. I can give you a hundred.
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All right.
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February 15, 2023, Kimmel says, quote, if Donald Trump executes all the criminals, who's going to send him a Father's Day card? Okay. You know, on and on and on and on. And in 2019, Kimmel, because this has been going on for a long time, posted a video segment where the ghost of Donald Trump's father Fred joins him in hell to speak to Kimmel. So all of this has punished the Walt Disney Company in financial matters. So the stock, which closed in July 2025 at 123, averaged $92 in March, 26% fall company has decreased 7% in revenue year to year, and it is going to lay off a thousand people. And its advertising revenues have fallen 6%. And it has flop after flop after flop. Like the live action version of Snow White was an absolute disaster. So I believe that many Americans have had it with Walt Disney. Had it. Not the man, he's long dead, but the company. Now ask yourself this. You're running the Disney Company. You're getting hammered financially. You have two shows, Kimmel and the View, that hate Trump 247 in vile ways. Attack his wife. They attack his son, they attack him. They smear him. This is Kimball interview people. Why? Why would you allow it? It's not censorship, all right? It's decorum. There's nobody tougher than me, you know, that been doing this 50 years. Somebody's bad. I'll take them apart. Fox had some minor complaints about some of my commentaries, but they didn't interfere when I was over there because I always had justification. I could always back it up. Now Kimmel says, well, I can back it up. I don't like Donald Trump. All right, look, it's okay you don't like Donald Trump. It's okay you mock him. Not okay. You hate him and provoke hatred. Not okay. Jim and I cut you some slack. And that was a mistake on my part. And the reason I did was that I know Kimmel a bit. We've always gotten along. And I think in the early part of his career, he had a lot of talent. He was funny. Not funny anymore. And either is Colbert. Colbert's taken off, too. Colbert is the same thing, but he's a little wittier. He's not quite as base as. As Kimmel is. And CBS is dumping Colbert. None of them do ratings. None of them. Two million here. I think the View is two and a half million. That's nothing. But they come out on social media and it gets all over the place. And younger people watch it and they form impressions and loons like the guy at the Washington Hilton Hotel. I'm not saying that Jimmy Kimmel caused that. That would be unfair. He didn't cause it, but he's part of the hate problem. Kimmel and Disney allows it with no financial upside. None. Can you figure it out if you know bill@bill o'reilly.com bill@billorilly.com if you have an idea why this is happening, because it's stunning. American corporations are in business to make money. They want to make money. And if you've got an employee that's not making you money that employee is either fired or whisked away someplace. And I gave you the stats. Disney is on the skids where most Fortune 500 companies their stocks way up. Record breaking stock prices under Donald Trump, not Disney. So you can say, oh, maybe the product's terrible. Okay, maybe it is. They charge you 200 bucks a day to get into the Magic Kingdom. So a family of four is going to have to spend $1,000 to go. I'm not going to. I'm not a boycotter either. But if I see Disney on anything I'm up on because I don't want bad behavior to be rewarded. Not a boycotter. I'm not telling you to do whatever with your money. It's up to you. But this is so strange that an American corporation would allow this when it's getting hammered fiscally again. If you know, I don't know. I don't know. I hate that you know, I'm a know it all. I love to know the reason. Are they liberal in Burbank, California where the headquarters is? Yes, they are stridently liberal. Yes. But all you have to do is fix the view is throw a couple of moderate hosts in there. That's not hard. Kimball, you can't fix. Listen to me as I join News Nation.
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Katie
Bill, great to see you. Also was great to see you on Saturday night before things ended abruptly, of course it's not the first time that President Trump and his administration have been targeted. We talked about the assassination attempt in Butler. Of course there was the situation in Palm beach on the golf course. And then over the weekend on Saturday night. What is your assessment of what is happening in the current environment that we're in?
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, first of all, you were sitting what about 3ft from me when the shots rang out and immediately I knew they were gunshots because I was standing by the door of the ballroom where the escalator brings people down and you could hear clearly there was a fracas upstairs. And then I spoke to a U.S. marshal at an earpiece. He was getting information from above as he would doing his job and he explained what was happening. I don't know if there is any rhetoric that can calm the situation. People are entrant here and I don't think that's going to change now. President Trump knows the danger. He referred to as Abraham Lincoln. Teddy Roosevelt was shot and the only reason he was alive is because he had a speech in his jacket and it deflected the bullet. Populist presidents are targets and we are living in a very violent Age in America. So this makes the country look terrible. The guy who did it's a loon. There's no doubt about it. He writes a stupid manifesto that made no sense to anyone, but he'll never see the light of freedom again. Good. But you know, how about his parents? How about his family? They have this stain on them forever. So a guy like that, there's no way to control them. They're all over the place. The security in a building that holds 5,000. I, you know, I think we need to change that. I think you'll get the ballroom now at the White House. I hope we do. Remember, it's paid all private funding and that would be the most secure location to have any kind of a big meeting with the President of the United States. So let's stop the nonsense there and get that thing built.
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Katie
Yeah. And of course, the ballroom at the Hilton was so jam packed that even people wanted to get out. They basically could not. First lady Melania Trump issued a statement today. She rarely issues these kinds of statements and she was responding to a monologue delivered by Jimmy Kimmel. Let's listen to or let's look at what she said. She said in her statement that she's calling out Jimmy Kimmel is saying Kimmel's hateful and violent rhetoric is intended to divide our country to. His monologue about my family isn't comedy. His words are corrosive and deepens the political sickness within America. Then she says that he shouldn't have the opportunity to be on air inside of people's homes. She says enough is enough. Jimmy Kimmel, of course, said that she, in a skit that he did, that she was a glowing, soon to be widow. What is your response to Jimmy Kimmel's continued division with his platform?
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, he shouldn't be on the air, of course. I mean, he's not a comedian, he's not a satirist. He's there to hate President Trump. Disney knows that. But Disney runs a couple operations like the View, as all they do is hate Trump. And you know, the First Amendment protects them. We can't, we the people, can't haul them off the air. But there's no reason for Jimmy Kimmel to be on there. What's the reason? I don't understand. It's not entertainment. All he's trying to do is damage the President of the United States and the office of the presidency and goes after Melania Trump saying he's going to be a widow. That was before, of course, the shooting at the Washington Hilton. But it doesn't really matter. So my question is to Disney. Why are you doing this? For what? You're not making money off Kimmel. Very few people watch him. You polarize the whole country. People take it out on you and your revenue goes down. Why are you doing this? Is there a reason? I'd like to know the economic reason, social reason. Do you think the View is fair? Do you think that's a program? Kimmel has a lot of celebrity friends every day. But they got 2 million people, Katie.
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Katie
I know.
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Bill O'Reilly
That's all I have. I mean, 2 million people watch that, and they're all of the same ilk. Okay, so what is the point? You could scatter those ladies and bring in some moderate people. That's not hard. But Disney is defiant. So what has to happen now is that the affiliated stations, and this did happen the last time Kim will pull this kind of stuff. Got to dump them. And I'm not. I am about as liberal a man when it comes to freedom of speech and satire. I understand it all. I want it to be there. But this is hate. Yeah, that's what this is. And Disney is trafficking in hate.
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Katie
And you gotta ask why? As you said, you gotta ask the question why? And again, not a lot of diversity of thought. And God forbid, ABC hire a real conservative supporter of the President. Bill, stay right there. I also want to bring in News Nation White House correspondent Kelly Meier. Kelly, it's great to see you. Of course, on Saturday night, we've learned more and more about the would be assassin and the manifesto he sent before making his attempt. What's the latest? And how is the White House responding to the latest attack?
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Kelly Meier
Well, hey, Katie and Bill, it's good to see you both. And I know you both were there Saturday and really were inspiring to me with your strength and guiding me through that experience as well. So thank you for that off the top. But I will say that here at the White House, the President and his team here were really kind of going through what the next steps are in terms of keeping the President and his team safe and secure. I was actually just reading through a message I got in from US Secret Service about this, you know, after action review of sorts. And they were telling me that the Secret Service routinely reviews protective events to strengthen operational effectiveness. And we also know that today on Capitol Hill, in terms of congressional meetings, the United States Secret Service Director was on Capitol Hill meeting with a bipartisan group of senators, both Senator Grassley as well as Senator Durbin, about what happened this weekend at the dinner and they say that we greatly appreciate the support from Congress and the administration. So they're looking at how they are going to handle major events in the Future. You have America's 2 50th, you have the Olympics and many other events coming up. And as you mentioned, the president wanted to go back to the dinner. He held the briefing here at the White House. He wants to do the dinner again. But there is this big question tonight of if they will do the dinner again. Katie.
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Katie
So, Kelly, in addition to what was in the suspect's manifesto, the Department of Justice explained more today about the assailant and the initial charges that he faces and said more could be coming. What are you hearing about that?
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Kelly Meier
Yeah, Jeanine Pirro said that there will be more charges coming as this investigation continues. But right now he's already facing life behind bars. As Bill said, he won't see freedom again. Likely he hasn't. He's been the charges were revealed today, three main ones with the attempt to assassinate the president also traveling across the country with all of these weapons to come to the hotel and then discharging the weapon. So each of those carries their own, you know, guidance and what he may be facing in terms of years in prison. But as far as the main one, that's up to life in prison, life behind bars. So that was laid out for him today. But he didn't seem to show much, you know, remorse. Sorry. He didn't say sorry to say anything. He just said here's my name. And it didn't really say much beyond that. So it was interesting to see that happen today.
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Katie
Yeah. And there was reporting that he was being cooperative initially and then he stopped being cooperative. Bill, we're not going to read what the manifesto said directly on air, but it seemed very straightforward and clear about the assassination, the assassin, rather motivations. But that didn't stop former President Barack Obama hours after the manifesto had been widely reported and detailed from posting this on X, saying, quote, we don't yet have the details about the motives behind the shooting. Why tell Americans as a former president that we don't know something when we absolutely knew what the motivations were?
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Bill O'Reilly
I don't know. I don't have any beef with Obama parsing this. I have a beef with 60 minutes. I mean, if you're a journalist, you don't read stuff that's unverified and gutter snipe stuff that's a National Enquirer. That's what that does. You don't sit there and read off a sheet of paper Indicting a man who was a target of assassination. That's what Norah o' Donnell did. I mean, did she not have a journalistic degree? It was shocking. And I use that word literally shocking. No responsible journalist does that.
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Katie
But don't you think President Obama should be responsible and not pretend this is, you know, pretend this is not something that it actually is?
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Bill O'Reilly
I thought, I thought it was a milk. I thought it was a milk toast statement. Yeah, it didn't bother me at all. Okay. I don't think it mattered. I don't think anybody paid attention to it. Obama wants to be the kingmaker of the Democratic Party, knows there's no leadership. That's what he's trying to do. But Norah O'. Donnell. And get this, that was edited by 60 Minutes.
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Katie
Yes, it was.
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Bill O'Reilly
That wasn't live. Is nobody over there that knows journalistic rules? It's a great question.
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Katie
It's a great question, Kelly.
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Bill O'Reilly
I mean, it was. It was shocking. And one more thing to add to Kelly. That guy never, never had a chance to get to the president. Never had a chance. I don't know whether he's that stupid, but probably he's delusional. He had to come down a stairway in a hotel, all right? And he knew there were checkpoints everywhere, manned by Secret Service and U.S. marshals. He knew he couldn't get down in the ballroom because there were only a couple of ways down. They were on escalators and they were heavily manned. So this guy's insane. And what has happened afterward is disturbing.
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Katie
Yeah. We have former Secret Service agent Tim McCarthy, who took a bullet during the Reagan attempted assassination at the Washington Hilton, who talks about what was going to happen if this guy were to make it down even to the level of the ballroom before even getting in. So stay tuned for that. But, Kelly, we are still in the very early stages of the investigation and the, the case against this guy, there were, you know, there are things said today by the acting attorney general. He said, we're not quite certain things are going to be the same fact pattern as they were today that they'll be tomorrow. What do we know about the travel pattern of the suspect?
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Kelly Meier
Yeah, and that's what's interesting. We're learning more about the timeline for this, you know, from when President Trump in early March said that he was going to attend the dinner. And then this man leaving his home in California by train to Chicago and then arriving in D.C. checking into the Washington Hilton about a day before this all happened. And then the day after the dinner happens. And around 8 o' clock, we know that was really in lockdown for the president to arrive. And then around 830 when they told us to get under the tables when the shots rang out. And they did sound so close from where we were all were. But as Bill, as you said, they came from above and there was no way he was getting down in there. And then, of course, being, you know, taken out. And then, of course, the president being taken out of the room, but all of that laid out. So, you know, there are a lot of questions here today around again having events like that at the Hilton. We have done it for many decades. A lot of people pushing for the ballroom. But then also, this is a White House Correspondents Dinner association event, so not totally a White House official event. So what do you do going forward in terms of doing this again?
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Katie
Yeah. The ballroom is specifically geared towards foreign diplomats, the king of England visiting, for example, a safe place for them to hold official White House events. And the president is reportedly going to be campaigning as well. So they'll have to figure it out. Kelly meyer and Bill O'Reilly, thank you for joining us. Great to see you both.
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Bill O'Reilly
Katie, I have one question for It's Bob, the Secret Service guy. Right. Coming on.
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Katie
Is that his first Tim, Tim McCarthy,
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Bill O'Reilly
I wrote a book called Killing Reagan. Yes. And that was right outside the usually. And then this is I'm sorry to interrupt the program here, but I, I want to know this. Usually when a perp shoots, a Secret Service agent fires. Okay. That person is dead within five seconds.
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Katie
Right?
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Bill O'Reilly
Within five seconds. They got ten bullets in them. That did not happen here. And I'd like to know why.
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Katie
Well, as we heard today from Acting Attorney General Todd Blanch, there were five shots taken by law enforcement and he would not commit to saying that a Secret Service agent was shot by the assailant. So they are still trying to figure out where that bullet came from. So more to be seen on that. But thank you both for being here. Good to see you.
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Bill O'Reilly
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Sid Rosenberg
you've been in the middle of combat before, and then Saturday night you're standing in the Washington Hilton ballroom. You were right near those gunshots, weren't you?
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, I was right at the back door and heard those gunshots pretty clearly and looked up the escalator. That's the only way down into the ballroom. And I knew there was a fracas going on upstairs, but everybody dove under the table. You know, in hindsight, I did not dive under the table. I Wish I had. I would have been there with Wolf Blitzer. Maybe we could have had a chat. He was. He was deeply embedded under the table. You know, I never for one second thought I was going to hit the carpet. You know, it's a story. You got to see the story. And then it happened so rapidly, because after the gunshots couldn't have been more than 20 seconds with the Secret Service barreling through the doors and down the aisle to whisk President Trump away. So I hope everybody enjoyed themselves under the table.
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Sid Rosenberg
Well, now, but you were a war correspondent in the middle of the Falklands battles, you were in the middle of covering riots, but. So you're a trained war correspondent, but if you're a TV anchor from Ms. Now, you've never been through that. So I guess that's why they were under the table. They didn't know what else to do.
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Bill O'Reilly
I just don't think I'm smart enough to go under the table. That's what my son said to me. He said, you're going to get your head blown off. I said, look, they've been trying to do it for 50 years. So anyway, I don't. I'm making fun of the people who hit the ground, but they did the right thing. You want to get out of the fire zone, but my first instinct is always to cover the story. Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
Hey, just explain to people, that ballroom, the way it's set up, the tables are crammed together, like you can't. You can barely walk between them. It's tough to get out of that room.
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Bill O'Reilly
2,000 people in the ballroom, 3,000 people upstairs. Nobody can control a crowd like that. Nobody. Yeah, this was my, I think, sixth dinner that I went to. And, you know, I never really said, like some people did well, the security is this or that. I thought it was pretty well design. That guy had no chance to get down a stairway into the ballroom. None. So he's a loon. And he had to know that if he cased the place, there was just no way that he was going to get down into the main lobby and then get down an escalator where there were 18 checkpoints. With Secret Service in U.S. marshals, there's no way it could happen. But he, you know, wanted to inject a terrifying scenario, and he did.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah, but would you agree there's no way to ever hold that event in a hotel with people?
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Bill O'Reilly
No, that'll never happen again. And it also get Trump his ballroom built because it's too risky now. There's just too many crazy people all over the place. And there are, and my theory is social media is responsible for most of that or much of it, but it's exacerbated by television and, you know, crazy ideologues all over the place, not just on the left, but that's the primary melting pot for them right now.
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Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
Hey, with that ballroom, you know, the president says, well, the East Room, you can only do 140. This will do 2000 people. Has he thought about you also have to have parking spaces for 2000 cars? I don't think he thought about that part, did he?
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, are you talking about the White House? Yeah. Now you get there's no parking, you gotta walk it. So you want to go to the White House, there's no parking. You, you get out of your Uber or wherever you're going and you walk in.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Bill O'Reilly
So you know, to worry about that there was parking at the hotel underneath it, but I don't believe that was a factor. This guy got dropped off from the train station. He went from the, from Chicago to D.C. on a train, got off the train, lugged his gear, checked into the hotel a day before. And you know, obviously was planned out, but it was pretty poorly planned out. Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
So half an hour after the gunshots, what was going on in the ballroom? Were people still there? And when did you leave?
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Bill O'Reilly
I left after I couldn't get any more information. Yeah. Because I had befriended a US Marshal who was giving me pretty good information at the point. I was passing along the News Nation. Their correspondence were on the air. I didn't want to hotshot it, so I gave them the info that I had. So I was there, I would say, about 20 minutes watching journalists steal wine off the table, which they did. They absolutely did. And then everybody filed out. And the steak and lobster was donated to homeless, I guess, food places, which is, which is fine. The whole thing was surreal to a lot of people. In fact, they got a follow up call the next day from News Nation and he goes, are you okay? I said, look, I spent time in El Salvador jungles. This wasn't even close to that. Okay. So I'm fine, but thanks for asking. Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
Hey, let's change subjects. Bill O'Reilly, Jimmy Kimmel, you're the chairman of Disney. What would you do? Would you take him off the air?
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Bill O'Reilly
You know, the first time that Kimmel got into this kind of trouble with Charlie Kirk, and I cut him a little slack. And I was wrong in doing that. The guy's just a hater. So my question is to Disney not to Jimmy Kimmel. Why is he on the air? So if you had a conservative or right winger every night spouting hate against somebody on the left, you think that person be on air?
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Sid Rosenberg
No.
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Chris Cuomo
Yeah.
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay, so I'd like an explanation from Disney why this man is on the air. He's not funny, not a satirist. He's just there to demean the president in the office of the presidency. That's all he's there to do. He's got a very small audience, less than 2 million. Okay, why is he there? For what reason? Disney. I'm asking Disney, and they don't have a reason. I mean, this has hurt their business. So what the deuce are you doing now? I'm not a big censorship guy, as you know. I'm people thrown off the air because they mock politicians. I mock politicians all the time. But this guy is not in business to mock. He's in business to hurt.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah, somebody put their sponsor list up. And I don't believe in sponsor boycotts. You shouldn't do that. But I'm looking at the list. McDonald's Chevy. Why are they advertising on a show like that?
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Bill O'Reilly
They buy bulk, which in the television industry, they don't even know what they're buying. Yeah, they buy prime time, they buy late night, they buy mornings. They're not going, oh, let's advertise on Jimmy Kimmel. That doesn't happen. However, they know they're on Jimmy Kimmel. The sponsors know and they don't care. And that's the big thing. Disney does not care about this at all. If it did, Kimmel would have been, you know, gone into Albuquerque after the Kirk thing. They don't care. Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
Hey, big ceremonies for King Charles. Dinners, receptions. I see all the Democrats there. Pelosi, every. What happened to this no Kings thing?
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Guest on podcast
They're all over.
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Sid Rosenberg
Slobbering all over King Charles.
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Bill O'Reilly
They love King Charles. I kind of like him.
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Guest on podcast
I do, too.
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Bill O'Reilly
I never met him, but, you know, as an Irish Catholic, we take a dim view of the British royalty, that's for sure. But I don't think he's a bad man. He's done some good environmental work. I think he's got problems with his kids, as everybody does. So he's over here. But he's only here for one reason, and that's to patch up the NATO thing with Trump. That's the only reason he's here, and I hope they do. We need the UK as our ally.
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Sid Rosenberg
Hey, Bill O'Reilly. You can go to billoreilly.com, you can see his TV show, get his column the message of the day, watch his YouTube channel. There's great content there. And I love the new podcast. We'll do it live. The latest one is Jeanine Pirro. And what else you got coming up on there?
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Bill O'Reilly
We go week to week about. I'm trying to contemporize it. So we got lucky with Pirro because she's deeply involved now in the prosecution of this assassin. And people didn't really understand what she was doing there, what her title was, Got Lucky. But what I try to do is we don't book ahead too much anymore.
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Sid Rosenberg
Yeah.
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Bill O'Reilly
We're trying to get right cutting edge stuff and it's really working. Well, I got a little plaque, Simone from YouTube, congratulating me for a million subs in record time. And now we have close to 2 million. And the reason is that, you know, when I interview somebody, it's no B.S. i'm not wasting your time. Okay. I'm getting to where we're supposed to get. And with that amount of time, it's kind of fun because you can go a lot of different places.
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Sid Rosenberg
Well, it's very good stuff. Everybody go to Bill O'Reilly on YouTube. Bill O'Reilly on YouTube and we're going to get you a third plaque and make sure you.
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Bill O'Reilly
That's right. We need as many plaques as we can get. Yeah.
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Sid Rosenberg
Bill O'Reilly on YouTube and then billorily.com you can get everything else there. Hey, rumor is you got another book you're working on.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah. Confronting America, what Has to Change and Beyond Mid September. That's what we try to do each September. We try to drop a book. I don't know how many more I'm going to do, though. It's hard. This one was really tough to write. But it links in my experience, personal experience, running around the world and meeting all these people with how to solve the problems that are vexing the United States. And I think people enjoy it because it's not just like, well, we ought to do this, this and this. It's I was here. This is what happened. This is screwed up. This is who did. Well, you know, bum, bum, bum. There's storytelling involved here. So if it's the last book, I'm going out on fire.
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Sid Rosenberg
It's never the last book.
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Guest on podcast
You, you always say that.
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Sid Rosenberg
There'll be many more books coming. But Bill O'Reilly, thanks for being with us.
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Bill O'Reilly
Chris Cuomo and I duke it out on News Nation.
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Chris Cuomo
Tell me why the Kimmel thing Makes sense.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, first of all, you didn't define it accurately. It's not about jokes, it's about hatred. So here you have a guy who, day in and day out, hates the president and the office of the presidency, in my opinion. And if the situation were reversed, if there were a right wing commentator doing what Kimmel does, he would have been off the air eons ago. Disney would have never tolerated that. If you could imagine Barack Obama getting hated on every single day, that would never happen in a million years. The only reason Kimmel's there for your audience to understand is that Disney's been threatened by CIA and the other talent agencies that if you do anything to Jim, you're not going to get our personnel writers and actors and things like that. And so Jim has got this layer of protection. But when Kimmel made the remark about MAGA being somewhat responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk, you'll remember that I cut Kimmel some slack. I say, you know, people make mistakes and you do commentary. And if you want to call it satire every night, you're going to get into waters sometimes that are difficult to get out of. So I'm not going to call for any sanctions against Kimmel. I believe I said that on this program. And, and I was wrong, absolutely wrong. Because Kimmel has demonstrated to anybody who watches him that he hates. This is hate speech. It's not funny, it's not satire. There's no social redeeming quality to demeaning whenever he can, the President and now the first lady. So that's how I would define it. You would define it as a bunch of jokes. I don't see it that way. So we have a gentleman's disagreement.
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Chris Cuomo
Well, we don't, because you have a right to your opinion. So do mine. So do I. But there's a lot of case law. See, that's what a lawyer like me looks at. And there is nothing approaching the law
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Bill O'Reilly
that you want to apply.
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Chris Cuomo
Of course you don't.
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Bill O'Reilly
Of course I don't. I don't think that's the problem. No, I don't. I don't think that he should be subject to legal proceedings. Cuomo. So why.
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Chris Cuomo
What's going on? What do you call an fcc. Why do you call. What do you call an FCC review of the license of the stations? What do you call that? It's not legal.
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Bill O'Reilly
What I call an FCC review, what I call an FCC review is an FCC review
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Chris Cuomo
operation of the U.S. government. What are you talking about? They're legal proceedings. They take years, they take Years of legal process. Bill, you got to do the research, pal. I mean, this is a nuisance.
- [37:54]
Bill O'Reilly
The first step is an investigation, which is where we are now, okay? They're looking at policies by Disney and others that may violate federal law. That's what they're doing now, okay? Nobody's been indicted. We only know about handcuffs, Disney stations around anybody's house.
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Chris Cuomo
Well, you don't have to be cuffed to have it be legal, right? I mean, you could get audit. That's a legal process also. Go ahead.
- [38:20]
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, look, I'm not. I'm not interested in being in the weeds here, okay? I don't have a law degree, and I applaud yours, but I'm telling you, the man's a hater. And on any other scale, if he were not an avowed leftist, he'd be off the air.
- [38:39]
Chris Cuomo
Greg Gutfeld's not off the air. And he's a toxic little troll that goes after every Democrat he can and other members of the media. And he's mean and hateful, and he's not funny either, in my opinion.
- [38:50]
Bill O'Reilly
Greg Gutfield. I'm not justifying Greg Gutfeld because I don't use that technique of justifying bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior. Now, you may think Mr. Gutfield is a troll or whatever you said. He probably wears a hoodie, okay? And that's up to Fox to deal with him. Do I think it's right? I think that Gutfeld is a entertainer who seizes upon battering the left. I don't see him in the same category as Jimmy Kimmel. Perhaps I'm wrong.
- [39:33]
Chris Cuomo
Also, let me be very clear. I don't think Greg Gutfeld should lose his job. I think he should be able to do what he does and do his damnedest at it every night, just like Kimmel.
- [39:45]
Bill O'Reilly
Maybe we could have another show just like me.
- [39:48]
Chris Cuomo
I fear the slippery slope.
- [39:49]
Bill O'Reilly
Maybe we should have another. Okay, I don't. I don't know about any slippery slopes, Cuomo, but maybe we should have another. Another show for Mr. Gutfeld. The troll show. Okay, Maybe we can have that. I don't know. I don't even know what the troll is. I think it's a little thing in Denmark that goes around barking at you of this. Okay, I guess you don't like it.
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Guest on podcast
Go ahead.
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Bill O'Reilly
The seriousness.
- [40:20]
Chris Cuomo
I don't like him. I don't like. I don't like that technique. I don't like that invective. I don't know the guy. I don't. I don't know him to like him or dislike him. I wish him well and I want him to be able to do what he does. I believe in freedom of speech. You got to tolerate what you don't like. This president doesn't seem to like that standard.
- [40:37]
Bill O'Reilly
I'm glad you're told you're troll friendly, but this isn't about anything other than hate, okay? That's what this is about. And if we Americans are to accept hatred, all right, and if Jimmy Kimmel had his way, he would destroy. And I don't mean that literally, but he'd celebrate if something bad happened to Trump or Trump was thrown out or any of that. So I just think that goes beyond.
- [41:07]
Chris Cuomo
You mean like when Trump said that? You mean like when the President says he's happy that Mueller's dead? Like that? Like that kind of thing.
- [41:16]
Bill O'Reilly
That was an unfortunate remark. But once again, you are making a moral equivalency of a man who was battered by the phony Russian collusion, impeached twice under daily hate speech by the media which despises him. You're making a moral equivalency to Jimmy Kimmel, and there isn't one. Now, do I justify the Mueller comment? I do not. I don't. Okay, for me. But you have me on to give my opinion. Cuomo, okay.
- [41:51]
Guest on podcast
Exclusively.
- [41:52]
Bill O'Reilly
So I don't justify it.
- [41:53]
Chris Cuomo
So I just want your opinion on something else.
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Guest on podcast
I got it.
- [41:57]
Chris Cuomo
I'm just saying Trump, Trump doesn't. Trump doesn't live up to his own standard. That's the thing that's called hypocrisy. It's not moral relativism. Please make your point. And I want to ask you about something else, so go ahead.
- [42:09]
Bill O'Reilly
Okay. I already forgot what my point is. I'm still thinking about the hoodie.
- [42:15]
Chris Cuomo
I'm going to send you one. It's going to say free agent. And on the back it's going to say, but I love Trump.
- [42:23]
Bill O'Reilly
Just have your picture on it. That's all I want.
- [42:27]
Chris Cuomo
Then you'll really be a target. Adam Smith was probing the topic of the nuclear enrichment with the Secretary of War. I want you to listen to a piece of it. Give me your take, please.
- [42:40]
Bill O'Reilly
So they haven't broken yet.
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Okay.
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We haven't gotten there yet.
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For all of the.
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Chris Cuomo
Well, their nuclear facilities have been obliterated underground. They're buried and watching 24 7. So we know where any nuclear material.
- [42:53]
Bill O'Reilly
Reclaiming my time. We're watching a second here. We had to start this war, you just said 60 days ago, because the nuclear weapon was an Imminent threat. Now you're saying that it was completely obliterated.
- [43:07]
Chris Cuomo
They had not given up their nuclear ambitions and they had a conventional shield of thousands.
- [43:12]
Bill O'Reilly
So Operation Midnight, nothing of substance.
- [43:16]
Chris Cuomo
It left us at exactly the same
- [43:17]
Bill O'Reilly
place we were before.
- [43:20]
Chris Cuomo
You think that answer.
- [43:21]
Bill O'Reilly
So I take my borrowed time from. I take my analysis from this. I don't know about Hank. Seth, you know, it wasn't my choice. I didn't think that knowing President Trump the way I do, I didn't think that was the wrong, the right situation there just because of experience. But I take my information about this from the IAEA based in Austria. And I had him on my program, this guy, second in command. He says, look, we bombed the hell out of them last July and did severe damage to their nuclear ambitions. However, they had in other places in the country enriched uranium and they pivoted right over to that to continue their pursuit of a nuclear weapon. That makes perfect sense to me, Cuomo. Does it not to you?
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Chris Cuomo
I think that their ambitions are clear. They would love to have a nuclear weapon. I think the mistake, as we've gone over before, is that predicating the need for imminent military action unilaterally on the basis of the emergency that they were weeks away from having a nuclear weapon is a false premise. They were not weeks away from a nuclear weapon. But they certainly.
- [44:45]
Bill O'Reilly
That's not what the weapons people say. That is exactly what the weapons people say.
- [44:52]
Chris Cuomo
It is exactly what they say. Nobody told you they were way from having a nuclear weapon. Nobody told you that from the iaea.
- [44:59]
Bill O'Reilly
They absolutely didn't. They absolutely did.
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Cuomo.
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If you watch. And we can just punch it on up on BillOriley.com they said that this Iranian enrichment program is moving quickly. Now, they didn't put a timeline on it, but it was serious enough where the inspectors and that's what the deal would be. The inspectors would have to go in, were demanding to go in to see where they are. Now, if you want to play a gotcha game on what was said before Iran, okay, I don't mind that you can gotcha all day long, but I don't play gotcha. A lot of people don't believe that Iran is a threat. They don't believe it.
- [45:43]
Chris Cuomo
Well, then they're.
- [45:44]
Bill O'Reilly
No matter what you say, they're not going to.
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Chris Cuomo
Then they're stupid. I don't believe that there's any significance population of critical thinkers in America. I didn't call you stupid. I'm saying anyone who thinks the regime in Iran is not a threat is stupid. They would love to kill us. If they had a nuclear weapon, they would almost certainly use it. There's no question that we would be better off if this regime were gone. That's why I said to you early on, why is the president saying he won't remove the regime? How do you make a deal with a bunch of dirtbag terrorists? They're not going to keep the deal any better than they did in 2015. That's all I'm saying.
- [46:24]
Bill O'Reilly
Because Trump doesn't have the power to demand that the regime be removed. Who's going to remove them? All right, they're executing people every day over there. So the two things that have to happen are weapons inspectors in reasonable. NATO should be absolutely behind that 100% and helping the USA reach that plateau. And then the United States basically saying to Iran, if you misbehave again, then we're going to close down the straits again and starve you. I said on this program at the beginning of this, this was the riskiest thing that Donald Trump had has ever done in his life. And I told that to the president himself and the and he almost scoffed at it. I said the reason it's so risky is if it all doesn't go our way, America's way, your critics, the people who hate you, are going to ram it down your throat. And now he's.
- [47:27]
Chris Cuomo
You don't have to another president to criticize.
- [47:31]
Bill O'Reilly
Which is what no, but that's, that's an organized cabal that hate him. And now we have another problem or he has another problem is that people are feeling it in the wallet. And that has got. That's why this, I expect this Iran thing to break open pretty soon. Can't go much longer with this.
- [47:57]
Chris Cuomo
Yeah, I agree with you on that. I mean, the only side that wants to get out though right now is us. Israel can't take enough opportunity to bomb as many people as they can because of the mandate within Israel. It's the only thing keeping Bibi in office and free from the elections. And we know the regime is loving the relevance and we'll see where it goes. But I appreciate your analysis, sir, as always, and good luck with the new podcast.
- [48:23]
Bill O'Reilly
Please join me and Sid Rosenberg on WABC Radio.
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Guest on podcast
He's had some big guests since he started the Do It Live podcast a couple of weeks ago, maybe a couple of months ago now. Had some big guys, Rob Schneider and Steve Sharipa, Lindsey Graham, Jeanine Pirro did very well. So I was honored to do it Tuesday. And it was pretty Intense. But it was fun, too. I gotta tell you, Bill, it was an honor. You know how I feel about you. I think you're the greatest ever. It's, it's, it's surreal for me that you'd even invite me to do it. But it was a great experience Tuesday night, so thank you so much.
- [49:06]
Bill O'Reilly
Well, you were an extraordinary interview because you told the truth. And most people don't do that. They kind of shadow it and spin it. But you don't talk about living off the wall, you know, Sid Rosenberg, but you overcame it. And that's the true mark of a courageous person. So I think people, when they, when they listen. Today drops at noon for concierge and premium members on billow reilly.com which we hope you check that program out. And then it think it's 4 o' clock or 6 o' clock for everybody. And you go to billow riley.com and get a little button. You just boom. And then YouTube comes up and there it is. But it's almost an hour and it takes the audience through Rosenberg's highs and lows. But is it that we do have fun and we make fun of people and usual immature stuff we do. So I thought it was an extraordinary, and I don't use the word much extraordinary interview that even people who don't know you, they're going to say, whoa, this is some story.
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Oh, thank you.
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Guest on podcast
And you know, you, you sat down with me and you're the best at this. Okay. And you actually said, I think it was. Yeah, the tape was rolling. You said, you know, I'm going to destroy you today. But you said it with this loving grin, like, you know, this is not going to be just about you voting for Hillary and now you love Trump or the fact that you hate mom, Donnie, now you're a Yankee man. We cover all that. It's all in there. But you actually said, I'm going to destroy you today. And you said it lovingly, as if we're going to go over a lot of this stuff. Because I'll tell you the truth, Bill, I don't talk about all that stuff a lot. I'm happy to be past that stuff. So is my wife listening right now and my children. But I always tell people that when the book is written now that's going to be a part of it. And I felt like if anybody, and this is a real testament to you, if anybody would bring that stuff up and make that a part of this one hour story. Nobody better than Bill O'Reilly.
- [51:31]
Bill O'Reilly
Well, I appreciate that. I did it for two reasons. Number one, because it gives hope to people who were in the same circumstance that you are or were. Just keep it in the past. And there are a lot of people struggling and they give up and they shouldn't give up because they can't overcome it. So that's number one. And that was an important message that we were able to get. And the second reason is that I'm a guy that admires certain things about other people. And the courage aspect, because you don't see that a lot. You know, I know that you're a Trump guy. We get into that and all that. But Trump's a courageous guy. I'm sorry you hate him. You can do whatever you want or say whatever you want about Trump. He's a courageous guy, whereas Biden was not and Jimmy Carter was not. Even Bush the younger wavered Trump has got that kind of Teddy Roosevelt esque look. I may not be right, but I'm not going down whimpering. So we got into a lot of different things. It's a quick hour. When people finish listening to it, I want them to get in touch with you or me and just let us know what they think.
- [53:03]
Guest on podcast
I'd love that. And you can watch it, too. The video came out great. It's a beautiful looking podcast. Your video team does a terrific job. They really do. So I'm excited to watch out later on today. But, you know, you called in Monday. He did me a favor. This is O'Reilly's second visit this week because you and your beautiful son Spencer, you guys were in the room last Saturday night when they tried to kill him again for the third time. And you gave me some specifics on Monday. But a lot of folks know that you're here today, Thursday. So let's go over what you saw and what you heard in D.C. last Saturday night.
- [53:37]
Bill O'Reilly
All right, so I was at the end of the ballroom, just kind of milling around, taking it all in, seeing who was there and how they were interacting. That's where I was. There were only two or three ways to get down into the ballroom from the first floor of the hotel. I was at the bottom of an escalator that you can take down when all of a sudden I heard the shots. Now, I heard four shots subsequently, I believe five were fired. And then they were loud. But I've heard gunfire before. I mean, I know what it sounds like. And then it couldn't have been more than 30 seconds later, the troops hauling in to the ballroom, the Secret Service and everybody Hits the ground, including my son, who's under the table. And I kind of leaned over, I go, how is it down there? Because I can't go under the table. Come on, I have to see what's going on. And later on, Spencer said to me, hey, dad, you didn't tell me you were taking me to basic training. I said, oh, good. But you witness history in a negative way, of course, but it is something you'll never forget. So anyway, the Secret Service just sprinted down to the dais, and Trump was sitting there with Melania, was kind of dazed, but Trump was looking around. He did not want this thing interrupted, but obviously they had to get him out of there. What people don't understand is there was no way that this loon could have gotten into the ballroom. There's no way he could have done that. So he knew because the guy cased the place that he was sacrificing his own life because he'll never get out of prison. For what? For what? For scaring some people that they go into the table. So there's. When I hear people criticize Secret Service and do all this kind of stuff. Yeah, there are 5,000 people in that building, 2,000 in the ballroom, 3,000 guests, and he was one of the guests, and he came down a stairway, you know, one of the stairways that you can go through, and nobody interdicted him. But once he got out into the hotel lobby, that it was just seconds before they were on them, bottom line,
- [56:20]
Guest on podcast
just seconds, and they got the job done. And I've been saying all week that you can take certain things the Secret Service did to task, but for me, it's more about the venue. The scarier part for me is that they've tried three times, and they're going to keep trying. You know, they haven't really had a great plan yet. The best plan was Butler, because this kid was on a roof not far away and, you know, missed them by, you know, just a pubic hair. Basically. The last two plans, the golf course, you know, pretty decent plan. If Trump makes his way to that specific golf hole and that guy isn't found right before that by Secret Service, this one of the three was the least likely to do any real damage. You could have killed somebody else, obviously. But the point here, Bill, is that they continue to try to do this, and I don't see any reason why they're going to stop. It took Hakeem Jeffries one day to go from, hey, let's lower the political rhetoric temperature one day to get Back to the word warfare. So how is this going to stop?
- [57:22]
Bill O'Reilly
I don't think it's going to stop, but it's going to be very difficult for anybody to approach the President. And he'll get his ballroom now and he should. I mean, this is all private money. So why are you stopping it? You know, the Heritage Foundation. Not the Heritage. It's the legacy foundation of people who look at the buildings and they don't want that change or that thing. They're holding it up. Why, that would seat 1700. You don't need a bigger room than that for anything. So that's. That should go through now just for the safety sake of other presidents. And then when he goes out, the golf thing is where he's most vulnerable. But They've knocked out a 1A on Florida past Mar? A Lago. They shut that down. You can't even go on that street now, ever. So they seem to understand the intensity of this. But beside the actual story, which was in a major story, obviously the reaction to this story is the same. The Kimball stuff and the 60 minute stuff and all of this, you know, and I bring it to my viewers and listeners and I go, look, if something did happen to President Trump, you think Jimmy Kimmel's going to be disappointed?
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Guest on podcast
No, no.
- [58:50]
Bill O'Reilly
So that's the definition of hatred. And then I take it a step further. I go wire the Disney company funding hatred. Why are they doing that? That's what Kimmel does every day. He tries to demean and deride the President of the United States, the office, the first lady, or even Barron.
- [59:12]
Guest on podcast
Right. And so when you say, why do they allow that, you know, I keep going back to the same thing. If you're a ratings monster, like it's going to be very hard for ABC to ever fire me, okay? I'd have to do something really bad because I get the ratings. And when you get ratings, as you know better than anybody, Bill, the best ever, usually ratings translates to revenue. So if you said to me, look, ABC puts up with it because Jimmy Kimmel gets great ratings, nobody watches that show. His ratings aren't bad, they're dismal. Now, I have no idea what his advertisers look like, but he gets dismal ratings. So that begs the question again, why is ABC loyal to this guy? The only theory I have is, is because they enjoy.
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Bill O'Reilly
It really is a little more complicated than that. Number one, his anti Trump stuff, Kimmel's goes out on social media, okay? So it goes there. Number two, Disney has taken it right between the eyes and on its stock price, on its ability to sell its products. That dopey live Snow White thing was one of the biggest bombs in movie history. But they've been threatened, Disney, by the Hollywood establishment, the talent agency, saying, if you do anything to Jim, then you're not going to get our actors or our producers or our writers. We're not going to do business with you. And so you'll be on an island with no talent. That's the cloak that protects Jimmy Kimmel.
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Guest on podcast
You're right. That's it. And you brought up an excellent point which no one brings up, and that is the amount of traffic they get from his social media, which no one ever takes into account. But it's certainly a big deal. And look, let's be honest, Bill, you know that now because Bill O'Reilly.com puts on this great show every night, the no spin news. But when you look even at your stuff, you know that goes out on social media and your popularity on YouTube, you went from 0 to 2 million in about 15 minutes. You know how important that stuff is.
- [61:24]
Bill O'Reilly
And it's a, it's a huge revenue driver for us. And that's why you see people on social media saying the craziest stuff you could say, because then people go in to watch what they're doing and they can sell ads. Advertising off that. That's the game. That's the industry, what they do. So there's a delineation of people like me who use my platform to gather and disseminate and analyze the news. I mean, I was on Piers more, you know, forget Piers Morgan.
- [62:03]
Guest on podcast
Right, yeah, sure.
- [62:04]
Bill O'Reilly
Okay. From London yesterday. But you are so. I, I go on him. And they're obsessed with Tucker Carlson over there. For some reason.
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Guest on podcast
They like them. They like them or don't like them.
- [62:18]
Bill O'Reilly
I think it's divided. But he's always a topic of conversation in the London media.
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Guest on podcast
If you told them they like them in London, I would say, of course they do. They killed two more Jews in London yesterday. Of course they like.
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Bill O'Reilly
I mean, you can extrapolate any way you want.
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Guest on podcast
Right?
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Bill O'Reilly
Okay. But they wanted me to say horrible things about Tucker Carlson. That that's what the bait was.
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Guest on podcast
Yeah.
- [62:48]
Bill O'Reilly
And I'm gonna take the bait.
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Guest on podcast
I would have done it.
- [62:51]
Bill O'Reilly
Do that.
- [62:51]
Guest on podcast
They should have. They should have called me.
- [62:54]
Bill O'Reilly
You know, if Tucker Carlson wants to debate me anywhere, anytime, I'm ready to go.
- [63:01]
Sid Rosenberg
Please.
- [63:01]
Guest on podcast
You'll kill them. You'll kill them.
- [63:02]
Bill O'Reilly
I'm not gonna backstab these people, number one, because I know what the, what the end is so they can throw the clip out on social media. I don't want to be a part of that.
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Guest on podcast
Right, right.
- [63:13]
Bill O'Reilly
You want to come up against me. It's easy to do. You get in touch with our producers, say, look, I want to talk to O'Reilly. That a. And if you have any credibility at all, you can come on and talk to me about it. But I'm not going to knife you in the back. I mean, and, but that's the whole game that social media plays. Yep.
- [63:33]
Guest on podcast
Oh, that gets the hits.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
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Guest on podcast
See, when you said Piers Morgan called you from London, I never would have come up with Tucker Carlson. I would have thought he called you because you're a New Yorker, you're in New York and the King was here. They wanted O'Reilly's opinion.
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Bill O'Reilly
He asked me about the King, too.
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Guest on podcast
Yeah.
- [63:51]
Bill O'Reilly
You know, and I like King Charles even though I'm an Irish Catholic. And, you know, there's a lot of history there, but I like him. I think that he's got a much better world view than all of these pinheads in Parliament. They don't know what they're doing. They have no blanket idea what they're doing over there. Okay. Oh, we have, yeah, we have 18 rafts in our Navy. Oh, good, good. That's nice. Okay. They'd have. No way. So he did ask me about that, but he wanted a headline out of Tucker Carlson and I wasn't going to give him one. And I told him I look, I've known Carlson for years and I was on his ex show or whatever. If he wants to come and talk about all of this, I'll be happy to talk to him about it, man to man.
- [64:45]
Guest on podcast
I think that's the best way to do it. Of course, he went on the same time slot as you did. Eight o' clock on five. And he was great. I loved him. I never missed his monologue. He was great. Something terrible has happened to him the last couple of years. I don't know if it's money. I don't know what it is. I'm not. Forget it. All I know is that guy that I watched religiously that I would even say maybe right behind you in terms of an interesting watch on Fox News. That guy's gone. That guy is gone. So what happened? I don't know. But nevertheless, I know you and you're not going to do something like that because it happened to you. I mean, you're the guy that was getting stabbed in the face in the back every day Every day I have
- [65:29]
Bill O'Reilly
a letter that I'm going to write on Sunday. Put it in my column, my Sunday column on billow riley.com from Gavin Newsom when he was mayor of San Francisco, demanding I'd be taken off the air. So now we have George Clooney and Kareem. You know, Hakeem, I'm sorry, a lot of reams here, I don't know. But the speak minority in the House. Hakeem. Oh, no, you can't take Jim off. Oh, no, don't do that. Censorship. Come on. He says, I got a letter says not only should you take O'Reilly off the air, but we want him executed. It's unbelievable.
- [66:18]
Guest on podcast
Run it. I got a bunch of those, too. I got care especially is up Katsimatidi's ass to fire me about 18. I know you got the same letters from care, too. But these people, they, they never practice what they preach. That's the issue. Be one thing if they felt some way, even if it's horrible, which most of it is, and they actually stayed there, they don't practice what they preach. And look, you know me, Bill, nobody at one point even said, kind of dopey some of the things you say on the air. Nobody pushes the envelope further than I do. Nobody appreciates the First Amendment more than I do. I almost never advocate for anybody's termination. But this guy, he went over the. I'm saying it. He went over the line. How about that?
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Bill O'Reilly
You're talking about Jimmy. It's more than that, though. I, when he did the maga, Charlie Kirk stuff, I stuck up for him for Kimmel. I said, I mean, you know, everybody makes mistakes. The guy's doing commentary, you know, and it probably didn't mean it that way. And I was wrong. I was wrong to stick up for him because all he trafficks in is hatred. That's all he's got. He didn't have anything else. You're not going to get a Popsicle from this guy, okay? The only thing on the menu is we hate Trump.
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Guest on podcast
That's it. That's it.
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Bill O'Reilly
We want to see bad things happen to Trump.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And if you're a major corporation like Walt Disney and you're paying for that, so, you know, just imagine if that happened under Barack Obama. You think Disney would have kept somebody on air who every night was hating on Barack Obama?
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Guest on podcast
No chance. No chance.
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Bill O'Reilly
Lasted 30 seconds. It would have given him the mouse suit and booted him right out into
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Guest on podcast
The Hollywood Boulevard, 100% beyond the street, you know, but Going back to Trump for a second. This Iran thing, which you've been great with, too, if you watch billowradley.com you're all over it. Somebody sent me something last week. I shared it with you. And they said, sid, I love the President, but don't listen to him or Hexef. They're not winning. They're not doing great. They're stuck. They're stuck right now. And you came back, you said, no, not really. Listen, we can take the straight whenever we want. And, you know, but. But this guy mentioned six or seven things that have changed since the start of the Iran war that don't necessarily favor the United States. And he said, sid, no matter what anybody tells you, the reason why we've got these constant extensions is not because Trump is trying to find the right guys of leadership, not because he's a nice guy. We are stuck. Where are we, Bill O'Reilly, in this conflict?
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Bill O'Reilly
I think that we're not stuck without a plan. So we can use our military power to do pretty much anything we want. But he doesn't want to kill a massive amount of Persian civilians. That's the problem now. So what the US Government's trying to do is starve them out. And we control the Straits of Hormuz, not Iran. We're the one. Our Navy is the one telling the tankers who can come and who can go. And Trump is hoping that the economic situation over there gets so bad, inflation in Iran is at 50%.
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Guest on podcast
Geez.
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Bill O'Reilly
So it costs an apple six weeks ago has doubled in price, and the Persians have no way to make the money up, so they can't get the apple. So that's the trend over there. But here in the United States, we're also getting hammered at the gas pump. And if it continues to go on much longer, that'll be the end of the Republicans in the midterms.
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Guest on podcast
Perfect. That's exactly. No, that's exactly where I want to end. This is great conversation, which nobody wants to end. Trust me. I'm getting a million messages how great this is. You said, if this continues much longer, I ask all my guests this. What is much longer? One guest said to me, I tell you what, Sid, he can figure this thing out in September. As long as he wins. I know what wins means, but as long as he wins, he'll be okay in November. I don't believe that's true. So when you say to me, you know, when it's over, how long can we do this? A month? Two months? Don't tell Me, we can get into the summer and this is still going on. We're going to lose in November. We, meaning me. So what is the time in your estimation this needs to get done?
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Bill O'Reilly
Nobody knows. We don't get the intel in the morning that the President gets every morning at 9 o'. Clock.
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Guest on podcast
But you know how Americans feel. You're the best ever at this.
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Bill O'Reilly
Right now, the new Harris Harvard poll has the vote in November at 50, 50, 50, 50 right now.
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Guest on podcast
Okay?
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Bill O'Reilly
So these other polls, like Emerson and Quinnipiac, that's all bull, okay? But this Harvard Harris poll is very well done. So Americans are divided now, and they're hoping, those who not Trump haters, that this thing turns around fast. Because when it does, gas prices will come down very, very quickly and things will get back to semi normal, I believe. Okay? Now, the problem with that analysis is that the mullahs don't care about their own people. They don't care if they die in the sand and they don't have anything to eat. So you can hold out. Hitler held out a year longer than he should have in World War II because the German people were so fanatical and he had such a tight reign over everybody. He's gunning them down, just like the mullahs are gunning their own people down so they can extend that. The Iranians can. But Trump believes he's going to win. I said in the beginning, this is the biggest gamble he has ever taken in any way in his whole life. Because it's so hard to control things in the Middle east, so hard to get. It's not like dealing with Venezuela, one of these countries, okay? It's a whole theocracy thing here. And so right now, I would say within two weeks, something dramatic is going to have to happen. So if I'm commander in Chief, I'm going, you know, we're almost at the point where I'm going to lose a massive amount of support because people, they don't have the money and they're going to remember it. So I've got to do something. But I'm just guessing there.
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Guest on podcast
I think two weeks is about right. I will tell you this. You called me courageous from my podcast appearance with you, and then you made that great transition into Trump and you call this a huge gamble. This was courageous. Unless, of course, you're one of these people that believes he did it for Bibi in Israel, which of course is somewhere between anti Semitic and stupid. It was a gamble. It is courageous. But in the end, it's going to help save the world. And I just hope it gets done sooner than later because I do believe that if this goes on another month or two, that it will affect us come November. So for the folks who want to see and or hear this podcast that you had me on which does drop today, what are those specifics again?
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Bill O'Reilly
Bill about noon, Bill O'Reilly.com is easiest way, a little button. You just push it for premium and concierge members, which is our elite, and then around four, I guess, four in the afternoon for everybody. And and when you hear people run screaming from their homes, you know that the podcast has dropped.
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Guest on podcast
I can't wait. You were masterful with me on Tuesday night. I love you to pieces.
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Bill O'Reilly
Bill O'Reilly thanks for having me, Sid.
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Thank you for joining us. Becomeabillorilly.com premium member today and I hope you subscribe to my YouTube channel. YouTube.com Billow Riley.