President Trump vs. Drug Cartels, DEBATE: Col. Daniel Maurer on the Legality of Drug Boat Strikes, a Somali Scandal & the President's Controversial Comments

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis

Episode: President Trump vs. Drug Cartels, DEBATE: Col. Daniel Maurer on the Legality of Drug Boat Strikes, a Somali Scandal & the President's Controversial Comments
Date: December 4, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Special Guest: Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer (Ohio Northern University, former JAG, Iraq tours)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bill O’Reilly tackles President Trump’s recent executive actions against drug cartels, including designating them as foreign terrorist organizations and utilizing military strikes on drug boats. O’Reilly engages in a robust debate with Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer about the legality and precedent of such military actions, exploring the nuances of domestic and international law. Other topics include the Somali immigrant fraud scandal in Minnesota, the political rhetoric around Trump’s comments, Obama’s remarks on partisanship in the military, updates on Venezuela, and significant current events.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. President Trump’s Executive Order Against Drug Cartels

• [03:13] O'Reilly explains that on January 20, 2025, Trump signed an executive order labeling drug cartels and similar organizations as Foreign Terrorist Organizations (FTOs), granting expanded powers:

  • Empowers use of military force against threats to the US classified as FTOs.
  • Builds on post-9/11 congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF).
  • Historical precedent: Similar justifications for military actions used by previous presidents against threats abroad.

• Notable Quote:

  • “The executive order gives the President of the United States the authority under our Constitution to use military force against threats to America. Foreign terrorist organizations.” — Bill O’Reilly [03:13]

2. Historical Precedents for Military Action Without Direct Congressional Approval

• [07:04] O'Reilly discusses prior interventions—Panama, Grenada, air and special ops assaults on terrorist masterminds—where Congress was not directly asked for approval.
  • “There is a long history...about US Military action not getting congressional approval and not obeying the rules of war.” — Bill O’Reilly [08:16]
  • Points to the lack of Geneva Convention application against terror organizations, citing total destruction of ISIS, Al-Qaeda, and others.

3. The Legality of Drug Boat Strikes: Debate with Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer

a. FTO Designation & Military Force

• [13:18] Maurer asserts FTO designation does not provide legal authority for military force:
  • “It allows us to do certain things...but foreign terrorist organization designation provides no legal authority whatsoever to use military force against them.” — Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer [13:32]
• O’Reilly challenges: If true, why hasn’t this been legally contested nor acted on by the Supreme Court or Congress?
  • “Why hasn't this been litigated? It hasn't been litigated…” — Bill O’Reilly [14:14]

b. Precedent vs. Lawful Authority

• Maurer differentiates between past acts justified under AUMF (9/11, direct threats) and today’s cartel strikes.
  • “The difference was we had both domestic legal authority under an aumf…and arguably a basis in international law under self defense that applied to those facts.” — Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer [15:05]
• O’Reilly dismisses international law over US Executive Orders, Maurer rebuts:
  • “International law does not trump…executive orders.” — Bill O’Reilly [15:53]
  • “Actually, it does…because…Geneva Conventions…becomes part of the supreme law…” — Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer [16:00]

c. Real-World vs. Legal Theory

• O’Reilly: “There's the real world and then there's the theoretical world. And I don't argue theory here.” [18:37]
• Maurer: “That doesn't mean that it is lawful. It doesn't mean it is constitutional. It doesn't mean you can keep doing it.” [18:15]

d. National Security Threat or Crime?

• [21:46] O’Reilly: “More people die from the actions of a drug cartel than any jihadist organization by far. So Trump has said they are a threat to national security...”

• Maurer: “Drug runners are criminals...There's a difference between crime and war.” [22:03]

  • Unpacks distinctions between “crime” (drug trafficking) and acts of “war.”

• Memorable Exchange:

  • Maurer: “They want US Citizens to live so that they buy their drugs.” [21:41]
  • O’Reilly: “These are organized cartels under the protection of a Maduro…the guy in Colombia, in Mexico…” [22:42]

e. Constitutional Process & Recommendations

• Maurer suggests: “If you believe…that Maduro is…central…then you tie these groups to him. And you say to Congress, ‘I want an AUMF to go after Maduro.’” [23:18]

• O’Reilly concedes: “If it were me, I would run it by Congress…But you don’t have to…” — Bill O’Reilly [23:28]

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4. Somali Fraud Scandal and President Trump’s Comments

• [24:03] O’Reilly details a large welfare fraud scheme in Minnesota involving Somali immigrants, referencing Trump’s tough rhetoric and the pushback:

  • Trump claims: “Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dollars…Welfare is like 88%...I don't want them in our country.” [25:29]
  • O’Reilly footnotes: “We have not been able to verify the 88% welfare number, just so you know.” [25:46]

• Community response deeming Trump’s remarks racist and divisive.

  • “Obviously, everyone knows that our president is racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, and we are going to fight that.” — Lt. Col. Maurer (quoting critics) [26:07]

• O'Reilly clarifies: “I don't think you can generalize about all Somalis...Most...are American citizens. There's nothing you can do about them unless they break the law.” [26:30]

5. Militarization, Partisanship, and Obama’s Warning

• [27:52] Obama (clip): Warns against politicizing the military, reaffirming its constitutional, nonpartisan loyalty.

  • “You don’t have your military involved in partisan politics. Its loyalty is to the Constitution. Its loyalty is not to any party. And it is not to any president.” — Barack Obama [28:16]

• O’Reilly’s counterpoint:

  • “With all due respect to Barack Obama, does the name Eric Holder mean anything to you?...Everything he did was political.” [29:14]

6. Updates: Venezuela, Ukraine, Immigration, Legislation

• Venezuela:
  • Deportation flights resuming indicate declining power for Maduro. O’Reilly doubts Maduro’s long-term prospects. [29:52]
• Ukraine:
  • Calls for full economic and business boycott against Russia to halt the war effort. [29:14]
• Immigration case—tragic death of 11-year-old Aiden Torres–Depos in California by a deported (x4) illegal immigrant. O’Reilly ties it to the lack of “Kate’s Law,” which he presses Trump to address. [31:46]
• Politics: Reports GOP victory in Tennessee special election, bolstering Republicans in the House. [32:41]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On precedent and legality:

  • “There is a long history…about US Military action not getting congressional approval and not obeying the rules of war.” — Bill O’Reilly [08:16]
  • “It allows us to do certain things…But foreign terrorist organization designation provides no legal authority whatsoever to use military force against them.” — Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer [13:32]

• On the difference between crime and war:

  • “Drug runners are criminals. They're heinous…they're terrible…But they're criminals...There's a difference between crime and war.” — Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer [22:03]

• On Somalia migration and fraud:

  • “Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dollars…They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country.” — Donald Trump (quoted by O’Reilly) [25:29]
  • O’Reilly’s disclaimer: “We have not been able to verify the 88% welfare number, just so you know.” [25:46]

• Obama on nonpartisan military:

  • “Its loyalty is to the Constitution. Its loyalty is not to any party. And it is not to any president.” — Barack Obama [28:16]

• Final Reflection on White House Visit:

  • “I’m very lucky to have this opportunity…I’m lucky to have you guys watching and listening to me every day.” — Bill O’Reilly [35:11]

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Timeline of Important Segments

• 00:43–03:13: O’Reilly introduces episode and Trump’s executive order against drug cartels
• 07:04–09:17: Historical precedents for presidential military action without congressional approval
• 13:18–24:03: Debate with Lt. Col. Daniel Maurer on legality of strikes, FTO designation, and process
• 24:03–26:56: Somali migration/fraud scandal, Trump’s comments, and community response
• 27:52–29:14: Obama on politicization of Justice Dept. & military, O’Reilly’s rebuttal
• 29:52–30:53: Updates on Venezuela, Ukraine, and deportations
• 31:46–32:17: Story of Aiden Torres–Depos and discussion of “Kate’s Law”
• 32:41–33:35: Republican victory in Tennessee and House majority update
• 33:35–35:11: O’Reilly’s closing thoughts before visiting the White House

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Tone and Language

• Direct and combative, blending O’Reilly’s signature “no spin” bluntness with sharp, legal challenges from Maurer.
• Frequent references to real-world impact versus legal “theory.”
• Controversial topics addressed with candor and acknowledgment of disputed facts.

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Summary Takeaways

• This episode spotlights a crucial, unresolved legal debate about the scope of executive authority in using military force against non-traditional enemies such as drug cartels, with robust argument from both sides.
• O’Reilly and Maurer draw sharp lines between precedent, principle, and practice—leaving listeners with a clear sense of the ongoing, unsettled nature of these legal and constitutional questions.
• The episode cycles through major, politically charged issues from immigration fraud and policy, accusations of racism, to foreign affairs, illuminating current fault lines in American political discourse.
• O’Reilly pledges to continue following up, especially after his White House visit and pending legal challenges related to U.S. action against cartels.

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Transcript

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[Bill O'Reilly]

Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to the no Spin News from Washington, D.C. it is Wednesday, December 3, 2025. Stand up for your country. So I'm going to see the president this evening. I'll have a full report to tomorrow on the no Spin News. You know, it's a cliche. Now, it's an honor. It's a privilege. Everybody's saying that they see a turtle crossing the street, they go, it's an honor to see you. But it really is a privilege for me to go to the White House. I've been there, I don't know, 20 times in my career. Every time. It's just an amazing.

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On January 20th of this year, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order designating Drug cartels and other organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. FTOs, that list has grown throughout the year. They add various gangs, various situations to the executive order, okay? The executive order gives the President of the United States the authority under our Constitution to use military force against threats to America. Foreign terrorist organizations.

[Barack Obama]

They.

[Bill O'Reilly]

That is important for everyone to understand. It is under reported.

Now.

After the attack on 9 11, 2001, President Bush the Younger went to Congress and got the authority to declare a war on terror. Under that authority.

The American President has the lawful right to attack enemies of this country as long as they are designated in writing. Can't just attack everybody. It's got to be there. You don't need congressional approval. You already have it. Congress already gave Bush the Younger that hat. So that has been used over the past 25 years to wipe out Al Qaeda, bin Laden, ISIS, Soleimani of Iran. And I chronicle all of this in my book, Killing the Killers. If you have not read that book, it is very important that you do so if you care about this at all. All right, now, there has been an authorization for use of military force, okay? And that happened under President Obama. The Authorization for use of Military force, A U M F is the acronym.

Why President Obama did that is that he made a mistake in withdrawing all US Forces out of Iraq and ISIS took over. Remember that, okay? Half the country and ISIS killed thousands of people. Slaughtered them. President Obama went back in under this authority, not approved by Congress.

And to his credit and to President Trump's credit, because they both combined to do this, both of them, they wiped out isis. And you'll remember during that horrific campaign that air power, U.S. air power and special forces were used. Al Baghdadi, the head of ISIS tracked down and his three young children were killed. Who's out? Baghdadi's fault. Not our fault.

But it was. Go in and do what you have to do. The orders for the bin Laden raid in Pakistan were everybody dies unless they immediately surrender any resistance. Boom. And we go through that in killing the killers. In addition.

There were campaigns before 9 11, and this is fascinating. So Bush the elder, okay, In December of 1989, the anniversary coming up, invaded Panama. The United States invaded Panama, okay? And 21,000 U.S. troops stormed that country, kidnapped the President, Noriega brought him to Miami. He was tried as a drug merchant. And Bush the elder said to Congress, again, no approval of this, but he did alert Congress, said this Norier is a threat to the United States because he controls the Panama Canal and there are civilians endangered. Panama went in, removed him okay. You remember that? I certainly. I was covering it. And then before President Reagan invaded Grenada, the Caribbean island, because Cuban troops were there and American medical students in Grenada were threatened, according to President Reagan, no congressional approval. Boom. 7,500 U.S. troops and shooting in Panama. No, Just went in, grabbed them. That was a government change. Panama, there was some shooting back and forth. Okay. That was Operation Urgent Fury. So you can see that there is a long history which is very important to understand about US Military action not getting congressional approval and not obeying the rules of war. Because when you go after a terrorist group like isis, we blew the hell out of them. Okay? There was no Geneva Convention. There are no ISIS prisoners I know of. They're dead.

Not justifying reporting. I don't know if you could have done another way. I don't know the another way. So now we have Maduro in Venezuela. He's Noriega. Now, President Trump actually told Maduro, we won't arrest you, but you got to get out of Venezuela. You got to leave. You can take your family, some money. Cuba will take you, Brazil will take you. It's not the same thing. But Maduro said no.

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[Bill O'Reilly]

So Maduro, you know, he's on the clock. That guy's not going to survive this. Whether he's dead or captured, I don't know. I don't think Trump's going to send ground troops in. I don't think so. That's too messy. But certainly air power. And we know that the flotilla of warships is now in the Caribbean, US Warships. So it's a very complicated situation, I do expect with these drug boats being blown out of the Caribbean and the Pacific. And the latest controversy is with two guys that weren't killed and then the US Forces went back and dropped another bomb on the boat and they were killed. And the Democratic Party and a lot of some Republicans, I wouldn't say a lot, but some are saying, no, no, no, this again against Geneva Convention, whatever it may be. It's not the Geneva Convention. It's a totally different thing, okay? This is a terror designation. It's a whole different thing than a declared war. And that's the memo. Now let's get another point of view on this. So I looked around, my staff looked around. I'd say, look, get the best guest, okay? I don't care the point of view. Most of the other news agencies, they just get the point of view that, you know, they have the same point of view as. We don't want that. So joining us now from Ida, Ohio, is Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer, and he teaches at the College of Law at Ohio Northern University. He's a former JAG Judge Advocate General, two tours in Iraq. So the colonel knows what he is talking about. All right, Colonel, where am I going wrong here?

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Well, good afternoon, Bill. Thank you again for having me here. You did offer me an opportunity to rebut some of your facts and I would very much appreciate you holding up that end of the bargain because I do have some argument here. You mentioned the designated terrorist organization or the foreign terrorist organization designation that unfortunately does not actually provide any legal authority to use military force against any target. It has very specific, limited applicability. It allows us to do certain things, administratively freeze bank accounts, conduct various investigations. But foreign terrorist organization designation provides no legal authority whatsoever to use military force against them. I just want to make sure that's very, very clear.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Stop you there. If that is true and that is not what President Trump believes and, you know, not what he believes, if what you're saying is right, why hasn't this been litigated? It hasn't been litigated. There have been no lawsuits. It's not being held by the Supreme Court and Congress has not proposed any bills at all to limit not only President Trump, but President Biden before him, President Obama before him, President President Bush the younger, that litigation does not exist. So if what you're saying is true, why does it not exist?

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Well, there are lots of reasons why litigation doesn't happen or doesn't happen right away. One, Congress doesn't have all the facts yet because they've not done thorough investigations.

[Bill O'Reilly]

No, but it's been going on for 25 years now.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Well, no, so here's another point I want to contrast is that it's a bit of a false analogy that say, well, we've been doing strikes on terrorists before. I. Yes, we have the difference, though. The difference, and it's a critical difference between then and now, whether it was under Trump 1 or Bush or Obama or Biden. The difference was we had both domestic legal authority under an aumf. And I'll get back to that in a second because I know you're going to go there. Domestic authorization for use of military force and arguably a basis in international law under self defense that applied to those facts.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Let me stop you here.

International law does not trump pardon upon executive orders by a President of the United States.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Actually, it does. No, actually, actually it does, though, because.

[Bill O'Reilly]

It declared. Declared war. Look, we got to get specific. I'm going to get out of the world of theory.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

It's not the world of theory, Bill. The Supreme Court has said, international, you.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Remember because you were deployed in Iraq, that during his first term, Donald Trump dropped a drone on Soleimani, a citizen of Iran in Baghdad, killed him right outside the airport. Okay. There was not one piece of litigation put forth by anyone domestically or internationally, that challenged that assassination.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

That doesn't mean. That doesn't mean it's lawful, Bill, and you know that. It doesn't mean it's lawful.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Okay. I mean, but now we're going into the world of theory, Colonel. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

It's not. It's not the world of theory, Bill, because the Supreme Court has said international law does apply and for two reasons. Two reasons. One, international law, the Geneva Conventions that you've talked about are a treaty that we have ratified because we've ratified it. It becomes part of the supreme law of the land, which is part of the law of the land that the President is obligated under Article 2 to follow with fidelity. That is part of the law. The Supreme Court has said you can't just exercise.

[Bill O'Reilly]

We're not fighting a war. It's an Executive action against terrorism. When Trump bombed. When Trump bombed Iran. Okay. Took out their nuclear facilities. We didn't get a declaration of war to do that. He did it under a terrorist EO saying, this nation is a danger, our nation. And I have to act. Again, no litigation whatsoever. Not from the Hague, not from anybody in the United States. So I don't know. Everybody's not obeying the law. Everybody's a scoff law.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

So you bring up lots of precedent. And it's not an invalid argument to make that we've done things before and there was no rejoinder, there was no lawsuit, there was no investigation. That's a fair argument to make. I'll concede that. But that doesn't mean that it is lawful. It doesn't mean it is constitutional. It doesn't mean you can keep doing it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

There's the real world and then there's the theoretical world. And I don't argue theory here. If somebody. And nobody has. Colonel, you could. You're a lawyer. You could file a lawsuit against the Department of War, Department of Defense, whatever you want to call it, saying it's illegal for them to blow these drug boats out of the water. Okay, it will go to the Supreme Court. They'll have to rule on it. I wouldn't mind saying that, by the.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Way, I don't have standing to bring a lawsuit in federal court against President Trump for deciding to use force. I just don't. And that's just not how it works. You mentioned the White House.

[Bill O'Reilly]

You could do it. You could do it. You absolutely could do it. In fact, there's a lawsuit now in the motion, and we're going to report on it tomorrow because we have to do some investigating. One of the families of one of the dope merchants who got blown up has retained an American lawyer to do just that.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Sure, yeah. Representing a victim is different from suing the government for an action that we believe the President doesn't have the authority to take. Two different kinds of lawsuits.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Action. You could do a class action suit against them. You know that. Come on, you're a law professor. But nobody does it because you're going to lose. Because the precedent, it's precedent after precedent after precedent. You know, the invasion of Grenada, the invasion of Panama, Maduro.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Okay, let's talk about.

Talk about the invasion of Panama and Grenada. And Grenada. Let's talk about those two. The legal justification for those two were threats to US Citizens. Whether that was exaggerated or not, okay, they were.

Wrong.

So have guns. So have guns. So for us to say I think it's a false analogy, Bill. A false analogy to say that these drug runners. I am not defending drug runners. Drug runners are criminals. They're heinous, they're terrible, they're violent. I agree 100%, but they're criminals. And do they do bad things? Yes. But let's think about what they're doing. The drug runners in the Caribbean or sending cocaine. No, no, they're sending cocaine.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Threats to national security.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

There are threats to safety and public health, but they're not trying to kill Americans. Why would they kill their own customer base? Why would they try to kill their own customer base?

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[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

They want US Citizens to live so that they buy their drugs.

[Bill O'Reilly]

But more people die from the actions of a drug cartel than any jihadist organization by far. So Trump has said there are a threat to national security because they're killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. You're saying that's not true?

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

I'm saying drugs do have a negative effect. But drug runners, drug cartels, while they're involved in getting the drugs there, this is not splitting legal hairs. This is the difference between crime and war. There's a difference, okay? Drug runners.

You call it invasion or whatever, but they're putting drugs on US Soil. They're getting into the hands of people who shouldn't have them. Kids. Got it. It's terrible, but let's think about all the things that have to happen. These drugs are not being injected into people against their will. They're consumers. They're buying it.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Look, these are organized cartels under the protection of a Maduro, the guy in Colombia, in Mexico, over a door, protected. It's got to be a national security. It has to be.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

All right, I gotta wrap it up. Here's what you do. Here's what you do. Here's what you do. If you believe. If you believe. And not just you, Bill, but if anyone believes, including President Trump, believes that Maduro is the heart of this, the brain of this, the. The central actor in all.

[Bill O'Reilly]

He's a facilitator, just like Nora. It's a.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

If that is. If that is the case, then you tie these Groups to him. And you say to Congress, Congress, I want an AUMF to go after Maduro. Here's my look.

[Bill O'Reilly]

If, if it were me, I would run it by Congress. I would. Because to have that power. All right, but you don't have to. Under what Bush the Younger did way back.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Those were, Those were different cases involving direct, lethal threats. Planes flying into the Pentagon, into the, into the, into the World Trade Center. Direct lethal attacks on civilians. That is not the same thing as drugs being transported. It's just not the same.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Great debate. You should show it to your students. And we'll get a lot of mail and I'll read all the mail tomorrow. And we really appreciate it, Colonel. We appreciate your patriotism very much. Two tours in Iraq. I mean, that. That tells me a lot. So thank you for helping us out tonight. All right, on the Somali front, I talked to President Trump about this on Wednesday. Last Wednesday, he. His opinion is this. We allowed about 100,000 Somalis into America. We being mostly the Biden people, but some Trump people, too. In the first term, they. About 85,000 of them moved to Minnesota, and now they cause unbelievable havoc in that state. In fact, there is a $300 million fraud scheme that's unraveled. 78 people arrested, most Somalis. All right, one already convicted, sentenced 28 years. And you've got Ilhan Omar, the radical left congressperson, causing all kinds of trouble, according to President Trump. So Trump says, this ain't working out. We don't want the Somalis here any longer. Roll the tape. Somalians ripped off that state for billions of dollars. Billions every year, billions of dollars. And they contribute nothing. The Welfare is like 88%. They contribute nothing. I don't want them in our country.

We have not been able to verify the 88% welfare number, just so you know. I mean, we're going to continue to try, but that's not easy to do anyway. As soon as President Trump said that, and he is steadfast, believe me. Okay, Then of course, he's accused of being a racist. Go.

[Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Maurer]

Obviously, everyone knows that our president is racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic, and we are going to fight that. America has a history of fighting and stopping those kind of individuals who continue to divide people and divide communities.

[Bill O'Reilly]

Well, you're going to lose. Somalia is a chaotic country. You understand that. Everybody knows we did a humanitarian gesture. We allowed these people in. I don't think you can generalize about all Somalis. Most of them who are living in Minnesota now are American citizens. There's nothing you can do about them unless they break the law. But I don't think any more Somalis coming here under President Trump.

In fact, the president has halted immigration from 19 countries. Most of them are third world nations with heavy Muslim presence. And all of this is going to be adjudicated, unlike what I was talking to the colonel about. I'll be. I don't think there are going to be any lawsuits because there's too much precedent for what President Trump is doing with the drug cartels. Okay. Now, I told you last night that anything the president does, anything and everything is going to be used by the Democratic Party and the media that hates Trump to try to diminish him so that he, the Republicans and Donald Trump lose the midterms. The point person on this is emerging and it's Barack Obama. Go.

[Barack Obama]

I would not expect.

The politicization of the Justice Department or our military.

And I don't think that's happened. I think there's been resistance, particularly in the military, to that. But the degree to which.

That has been encouraged.

You know, that used to be something that I would lecture other countries not to do. You don't have your military.

Involved in partisan politics. Its loyalty is to the Constitution. Its loyalty is not to.

Its loyalty is not to any party. Its loyalty is not to any party, and it is not to any.

President.

[Bill O'Reilly]

And that's true. Military is supposed to be nonpartisan. But what caught my attention was that I would not expect the polarization of the Justice Department.

With all due respect to Barack Obama, does the name Eric Holder mean anything to you? He was your Attorney General. You don't get more political than this man. Everything he did was political.

I just thought I'd remind everybody. Ukraine, latest talks, direct talks, five hours. Witkoff and Jared Kushner. With Putin himself going nowhere. In my opinion, the only thing that can matter here is a massive boycott on everything Russia, every single thing. European nations are going, oh, we won't buy for two. We'll only buy two more years. You got to stop. Everybody's got to stop doing business with Russia. That's the only way Putin's going to stop. He likes to kill people. Update on Venezuela.

Deportation flights. They are accepting them in Caracas, the capital of Venezuela. So we are continuing to deport Venezuelan gang members back to that country. There was a no fly, but they're letting those flights in. That shows weakness in Maduro, by the way. By the way, I'm sorry about that. And I don't believe Maduro is going to be there much Longer, as stated.

A lot of stuff going on three weeks before Christmas Eve, that's for sure. And one of them is a former Honduran president freed. This is an another story. Juan Orlando Hernandez, convicted in the United States of massive drug smuggling while he was the 38th president of Honduras, which is a Latin American country. So he's serving time in West Virginia and Trump lets him out. Why? I don't know.

I'm working it. I'm down here in Washington working it. I suspect some deal was made where Hernandez is providing the United States with something, information, intel, whatever it may be. But I don't know at this point. But we're working it. This is a terrible story. San Diego, California, okay. 11 year old Aiden Torres depos playing in the street in front of his house. He's run over allegedly by a man named Hector Valdez. And Lahore, who was in this country illegally and deported four times. Four times. Okay, so.

The boy is dead, Young Aiden, he's dead. Why is this guy here? Because Kate's Law was not passed, that's why.

Now on the topics I'm going to talk to the president about, then got to get this case law passed where if you are deported for a criminal offense, our national, you come back 10 years just for coming back. That's Kate's Law.

Why this hasn't been implemented, I'll never understand it. Portland, Oregon.

I'm going to do this story tomorrow. They had a tree lighting ceremony. They invited a free Palestinian movement person. I'm going to do it tomorrow because we're running late here a little bit. Portland, Oregon is loonsville.

Where do you see this? Tomorrow.

In Tennessee, the Republicans won as I predicted. Yesterday Matt Van Epps defeated Afton Bain by about 10 points. Now the liberal media goes, oh, it's a close. It wasn't close. Okay, it wasn't close.

And that means that the House of Representatives, 220 Republicans, 213 Democrats, two more at large districts have to be voted upon. But right now public is in pretty good shape there. That can change in the midterms next November. Final thought in a moment. Okay, final thoughts. So I'm off to see the wizard that would be President Trump. Some people think he's a wizard, some people think he's other names.

But for me, as I said, top of program, just going to the White House. I don't care who's there. And now I get along with Bush the younger went to the White House there Barack Obama saw him at the White House. Biden Deep six me. No way Biden have anything to do with me. And Donald Trump, of course, has been very kind to my family and myself. So we're going to the little soiree tonight at the White House and he wants to see me beforehand. And I'm pleased to answer any questions he might have. Probably going to yell at me. So he doesn't like some of my commentary. What am I going to do? I got to be honest, you know, I, I'm not here. I'm here for you. And he knows that. He knows me 35 years. He knows the John McCain interview I did with him. He knows. But you know, he kind of go, oh, you're not being fair. Okay? And I never debate him. I just go, listen, I'm just, I'm a working class guy trying to do my job, which is true. But I will report everything about our White House visit tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to it. So much history in there. And I know about it. You know, I researched it so tight. And it just, you know, to think what happened there and who was here. And there I am standing there.

I'm very lucky. I think I'm very lucky to have this opportunity. I'm lucky to have you guys watching and listening to me every day. Thank you for doing that, Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.

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