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Bill O'Reilly
Foreign here. Welcome to the no spin news. Monday, November 3, 2025. Stand up for your country. So I watched a 60 minute interview with President Trump last night and then I read about 7 in the morning, the entire transcript that CBS posted, I got to tell you, it was so convoluted and all over the place that I'm sitting there. I go, maybe it's me, but I didn't learn one thing, nothing from that interview. And I think the interview ran more than an hour, didn't run that long on tv. But the transcript, you know, there's a lot of stuff that they didn't air. And I'm going, what, what's going on? So it's my job to tell you what's going on. And I will. And I'm not trying to be petty or criticize Norah o', Donnell, the CBS correspondent. I don't want to do that. But I got to be honest. I mean, I'm looking, I'm watching. It's my time and I'm trying to learn something. And I'm not learning. Now if you disagree, if you did learn something, I will read your letter tomorrow. Bill@Billoriley.com name in town as always. But Bill@Billorilly.com because could be me been in the business 50 years or maybe I'm just way out of touch with, you know, the regular discourse. So the interview is the subject of this evening's Talking Points Memo. I picked out five or six short sound bites, short 30 seconds or so because I just, the repetition was numbing. It was numbing. And again, I'm not trying to blame anybody here. I'm going to explain what was happening that Donald Trump goes into an interview and you got to pin him down with specifics. You got to hit him with stuff he's not expecting. Not because you want to gotcha him.
Barack Obama
All right.
Bill O'Reilly
It's because you're not going to get anything if you ask predictable questions and he gives predictable answers that he's given a hundred times before. He's got all that in. And he anticipated there wasn't going to be anything out of the usual, okay, it was obvious from the very beginning. So the government shut down and there's some news today that the feds will start to fund the food stamps shortly. Specifics have not been released, but that money is going to start to flow and, and it should. And I'll tell you why in a little while. Not to everybody, a lot of fraud in that, but there's a lot of need in that too. Okay, so we gotta be very careful here. But anyway, the shutdown was obviously in play. It's breaking news. Here's what happened. Go.
Donald Trump
Here's what I can't do. I can't give them a trillion and a half dollars so that they can give welfare to people that came into our country illegally. So. So that prisoners and that people from mental institutions and people that are drug dealers get vast amounts of money for health care. That I can't do. So my understanding, what I can do is I can continue to run a great country. We have the best economy we've ever had.
Bill O'Reilly
All right, so there is some truth to what the president is saying. And I don't care if Chuck Schumer lies all day long. There is money rooted in Democratic states through Medicaid to illegal aliens. All you got to do is look at the budget for the state of Oregon. It's there, right? Black and white. $1.5 million earmarked for undocumented people through Medicaid. That's. That's tax money. That's federal tax money given to Oregon by the feds. Trump is right about that. But overall, it's a complicated situation. But the Republican Party is never going to give the Democratic Party a carte blanc to keep rising the costs of Obamacare. And, you know, I wrote a column on BillORiley.com got all the stats how when Obamacare was passed, here was the number the Congressional Budget Office said was going to happen is way more than that. With no end in sight. No, it's going to bankrupt the nation, continue to do this. Republicans are never going to do it. And the Democrats knew that, but tried to ram it through anyway, knowing the government was going to shut down. So Trump is holding firm. There's going to have to be some kind of accommodation made. I don't know what it is, but I'm still confident that will happen. But I'm going to tell you at the end of the program, I got to fly this week. I'm not confident that plane is going to get off the ground. All right, the second one was about high prices. Now, this is the most important thing for the Trump administration right now because they have to hold next year in the midterms. Congress, roll tape.
Donald Trump
I inherited the worst inflation in history of our country. We don't have inflation. We're down to 2%, even less than 2%. A couple of items like beef, I'm getting down, but our groceries are down.
Norah O'Donnell
Care premiums.
Donald Trump
I can fix health care, give them better health care for less Money. Obamacare is, is hurting people. Obamacare was a disaster from day one. I can fix it and make it good. I'd really rather start with a fresh plate. But if it's required to keep it, we can make it much better.
Bill O'Reilly
That's a good answer. Okay. Because fiscally, Obamacare is out of control. Not that the Democrats care about that. They don't care because they want the government to run health care. That's the goal. Yes. Bankrupt Obamacare. Bankrupt it. And then the feds will have to take over the whole system. You know what that will lead to? And I'll get into this tomorrow. That will lead to a two tier health care system in America because doctors will just get out and go into concierge treatments. So the wealthy people, the affluent people will, will have their private doctor. They'll pay more for it. And everybody else will be left with physician's assistance and RNs and all of this because most of the doctors, they're gone. They're not going to do this government run stuff. It happened in England. If you're wealthy, you're not in a public health system. In Great Britain, you're not. You hired your own doctor. That's exactly what will happen here, that the poor working and the working people get much less in the medical area if the government runs everything. All right, the third one was the most controversial story right now about undocumented migrants and how ICE is tracking them down. Go.
Norah O'Donnell
Is it your intent to deport people who do not have a criminal record?
Donald Trump
We have to start off with a policy, and the policy has to be, you came into the country illegally, you're going to go out. However, you've also seen, you're going to go out, we're going to work with you, and you're going to come back into our country legally because we have a lot of good people and we've accepted all of these people because of Biden's open border policy, where people would walk in totally unchecked and unvetted murderers and everybody.
Norah O'Donnell
Elana, when will you declare mission accomplished on immigration?
Donald Trump
Well, it takes a long time because, you know, probably I say 25 million people were let into our country.
Bill O'Reilly
I'd say 15. But as the president said later on, it doesn't really matter. 15, 25. The worst public policy ever in this country was the open border, totally engineered by one man. That was President Biden. Can I be any more clear than that? What a dereliction of duty. What? All right, some advice for the Trump administration here from your humble correspondent. A Heavy hand when you're not sure of criminality. So there's an ICE raid. You're not sure. Let's face it, the US economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax Advantage Gold IRA. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A plus from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text Bill to 998-899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text Bill to 998-899.
AM PM Spokesperson
Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy, but I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all. So farewell.
Bill O'Reilly
Oatmeal.
AM PM Spokesperson
So long, you strange soggy.
Donald Trump
Break up with bland breakfast and taste. AM PMs bacon, egg and cheese biscuit made with cage free eggs, smoked bacon and melty cheese on a buttery biscuit. AM P M. Too much good stuff.
Bill O'Reilly
Who you got a heavy hand is not what you want. You got to protect yourself. Criminal alien. You warrant you know it's a person, then you go. But if it's some woman or a child or something like that who just happens to be in the vicinity. Lighter touch. Okay. Supreme Court in tariffs. Huge story for all of us because it will affect the American economy. Roll tape.
Norah O'Donnell
What happens to your economic plan if the Supreme Court invalidates your tariffs?
Donald Trump
I think our country will be immeasurably hurt. I think our economy will go to hell. Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had. Because of tariffs. 401ks at the highest level. That and this is millions and millions of people that we've ever had 401ks. I think it's the most important, important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in 100 years.
Bill O'Reilly
Maybe because if the Supreme Court were to rule that the President of the United States does not have the power to impose tariffs without Congressional approval. Stock market get down 5,000 points in one day. That that will happen. So any Supreme Court are deliberating on this right now. I'll make a prediction right here on November 3rd that the Supreme Court will uphold the president's right to unilaterally. That means by himself, slap tariffs on foreign nations. It almost has to, because just what Donald Trump said, you will blow up the whole system. That's how reliant we are now on this new trade situation. Okay, finally, China, which you know I am deeply involved with this here. Nora o', Donnell, this was good. So most of her questions were predictable, not backed up by facts. She didn't seem to have command of both sides of the story. She's taking a Liberal line and Ms. O' Donnell is a liberal, as I wrote in a message of the day on billorilly.com but that's okay. She's not a bad person. She's not corrupt. I know her. She's not. There's some of them that are horrible. But she's liberal and she takes that line. But here she has a very good question about China. Go.
Norah O'Donnell
Our own intelligence agencies say the Chinese have infiltrated parts of the American power grid and their water systems. They steal American intellectual property and Americans personal information. They bought American farmland. How big of a threat is China?
Donald Trump
Like everybody else, we're a threat to them. Too many of the things that you say we do to them. Look, this is a very competitive world, especially when it comes to China and the US and we're always watching them and they're always watching us. In the meantime, I think we get along very well. And I think it's, I think we can be bigger, better and stronger by working with them as opposed to just knocking them out.
Bill O'Reilly
Good. That's exactly the way I feel. And you got to get along with these people. All right, summing up number one, was that a fair assessment of the 60 minute interview? If I'm unfair, I want you to tell me bill@billoriley.com all right? To me, I didn't learn anything. So I'm sitting there going, come on. And I'm hoping that I can secure an interview with President Trump before the end of the year. That's my goal. He knows that we would like it. We were supposed to do it. But then he got the Hamas stuff going on and had to go over with the hostages. Now if I get it, I'm going to really be under pressure. Right. So, but boy, that'll be interesting. And that's the memo. Once again, the snap thing broke mid afternoon and the Department of Aquaculture says it's going to start to send out food stamps again. Average food stamp, 42 million Americans, which is unbelievable. All right, $190 per person per month. Now, I was reading a story of a woman got two young kids. One of the kids is cancer. Husband splits, just leaves, doesn't provide a dime. There is no law against that. You states out there, man, you gotta get this under control. A husband should be charged with child neglect. So the woman has got one sick kid, one other child, no income, can't work with a girl. Little girl has cancer. She has to get government assistance. So, anyway, I just want to bring that to your attention. Barack Obama is back. Now, the reason he's back, and this, of course, has not been reported, but that's why you watch and listen to me, is because of Trump wailing on Obamacare. So the former president shows up in Virginia in the gubernatorial race to support Abigail Spanberger. And then in New Jersey, same thing, supporting Mikey Sheryl. Now, I think Sheryl could lose Jersey. Spamberger probably won in Virginia. Anyway, so Barack Obama gets out there in Virginia and says this about Republicans.
Barack Obama
They put on a big show of deporting people and targeting transgender folks. They never miss a chance to scapegoat minorities and DEI for every problem under the sun. You got a flat tire, dei, Wife mad at you. Dei, what they have not devoted energy to is helping you. They have not put forward serious proposals to lower housing costs or make groceries more affordable. They haven't improved our schools. They haven't made health care more accessible. They haven't shortened your commute or prepared young people for the future where AI might take their job.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, that's because they're not babysitters. So for the past four years, we had President Biden, a Democrat, in office. Okay. Did he make groceries more affordable? They went up more than 20%. I'm talking to Barack Obama now. Did he improve the nation's schools? No. Test scores dramatically declined. Public schools? They didn't improve them. Health care more accessible? No. Obamacare was in full effect for four years under Biden, and costs are totally out of control. Didn't do that. Now, I'm not a what about ism guy, but if you're going to blame all of the maladies of this society on an administration that's been in office less than a year and ignore one of the most destructive administrations in history run by your vice president, I'm not sure that's really fair, Mr. Obama. Okay, I hate the partisan stuff, but it's ridiculous. New York City. I live eight miles outside the city, so I'm not affected directly by Ma' Am Donnie back. He did me a favor. My Property is up 20% in estimated value since Zoran announced he wanted to be mayor. 20% people getting out. Latest poll, Atlas. Good poll. Nailed the Obama. I'm sorry, the Trump Kamala Harris race. Exactly. Atlas is out of Brazil. Here's what they say. Zora Mandani, 41%. Andrew Cuomo 34 slew with 24 vote, of course is tomorrow. And it's going to be the highest turnout in quite some time. Everybody's jazzed now. Services and public safety are the two big things that if Ma' Am Donnie is elected are going to be right. Forefront services being going to pick up your garbage. They're going to clean up the city. Traffic congestion, pollution.
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Bill O'Reilly
I think it's all going to get worse. Public safety, no doubt it's going to get worse because Mamdani is soft on crime, doesn't want to punish the criminals. Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. In my career, I have interviewed seven presidents, covered every major story of the last few decades. But I've never seen an opportunity like this one. President Trump's second term could mirror the economic boom of the 1920s, a time when unemployment hit 1.8%. Stocks soared too. 265% ordinary Americans had their shot at real prosperity. That's why I've recorded a special presentation with renowned investment expert Alexander Green called the Rebirth of the American Dream. Alex will reveal how President Trump plans to slash regulations, cut taxes, bring manufacturing back to America and unlock the AI driven tech boom. Plus, you will get details on six specific stocks that could soar during Trump's presidency. Please visit trumpsamericandream.com to watch our presentation now. Joining us now is John Chalf. This is a great booking we got here. Mr. Chao just retired a few weeks ago as chief of department for New York City Police Department. He was the highest ranking uniformed officer in the department for the last couple of years. He joins us from Staten Island. That's a pretty good lead in for you, Chief. Right.
John Chalf
Thank you, sir. Sound pretty good. Thank you.
Bill O'Reilly
Are you moving out of here if Mandame wins?
John Chalf
Nah, I'll be staying right here. Just trying to do my part and support the city the best I can. But like you said, if he wins, the whole paradigm of public safety is going to shift to a social network versus a law enforcement network. And you know, in some places I worked a little bit in policing, but it really has the potential to hurt this whole city as it relates to public safety.
Bill O'Reilly
Give me some specifics on what you see happening.
John Chalf
Well, let's first look at his rhetoric. He's no fan of the police department. By his own words, when you hear his rhetoric about he wants to maintain staffing levels, so what does that mean? We're already down thousand cops and about 3,800 change can leave in January. So he doesn't want to hire more cops and we need more cops. Look at his rhetoric as it relates to crime. He's kind of nuanced. Well, I didn't say I don't want prostitution, but I want to decriminalize it. I didn't say I don't want to enforce misdemeanors, which those are perception laws. Right. But I don't want cops focused on low level offenses. So he's sending signals out here that he wants more of a social network. And to pay for that, what about 1.8 billion? It's just community action teams that's going to come from the police department budget. That's really going to hurt. Because, Bill, you know, this city's 24 7, 365. Every minute something happens here. We just came through.
Bill O'Reilly
I do, I do know that and I know a lot about policing, as you know, and what I see is that 911 calls will be delayed because. Because there just physically aren't going to be enough cops on the shifts to answer them as quickly as they need to be answered. The morale in a police department, setting up civilian review boards to Monday morning quarterback everything the cops do in the street. And these review boards, they don't like the police, they're anti police. So before you left, Mondami was obviously in play. Generally speaking. How did the police see this?
John Chalf
Well, you just hit it. Morale is hurting. It's hurting because we understaffed and we work too hard. And let me. Here's something you probably want to know, Bill. The cops want a great contract and they don't have one. But their biggest complaint of all to all the unions and I dealt with them every day was the civilian complaint reward. If he gets his way, which is a ballot issue for next year to have a silian complaint reward be the final arbiter of complaints against cops, you will see a mass exodus. No cop is going to stay to let some 20 year old kid who's not an investigator pretending to be an investigator who's going to adjudicate laws against a police department that will be a backbreaker.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, it puts the cops in danger because they can be sued civilly. I mean, you can break them by filing a lawsuit on assault or whatever. But what we have been following is the assaults on police, physical assaults, people punching them, kicking them, all of that. And those crimes have risen dramatically, or am I wrong?
John Chalf
They're up about 40%, 4 0% since bail reform. And the conviction rate for a felony conviction for attacking a police officer is, is at an abysmal 6%.
Bill O'Reilly
Wow.
John Chalf
This is why recidivism as much as we brought crime down, because we have a 30% rise in crime since bail reform. So we're fighting this new platform of crime by about 126, 127,000 crimes a year. And we're getting it down 1, 2, 3, 4% because we suffer from recidivism. We suffer from lack of prosecution. Now the ADAs, they inherited bail reform from our state legislative. But another actor here was not doing their job with the judges. They're confusing their ideology. Yeah, the law, the whole system is messed up here.
Bill O'Reilly
Bill is the DA's too bragging and particularly Bragg in Manhattan and Darcelle Clark in Bronx. You know the case of the two NYPD who were attacked on a subway platform in the Bronx on videotape. Both of them had to go to the hospital. There were three attackers two were arrested and charged. That case has been adjourned 20 times. 2, 0. That's. They don't want to prosecute. Darcelle Clark in the Bronx doesn't want to prosecute these thugs. They're out. They've been out. They haven't spent. I don't think they spent even an overnight in jail.
John Chalf
I'll tell you something else, Bill. Okay. First of all, think about, think about what happened. You're smoking a cigarette. Police officer asks you to distinguish the cigarette or leave and their response is to a full frontal attack.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
John Chalf
You get arrested for assault to a police officer. You go in front of a judge and the judge lets them out. Now five months later, Mr. McCleary gets locked up for an illegal gun.
Bill O'Reilly
And that's one of the guys charged?
John Chalf
Yes. Yep. He's one of the two that's charged with all too. He, he gets locked up for a gun and he's still out. He's a two time walking indictment walking around our streets.
Bill O'Reilly
This is broken, sure, but that's Albany and that's the legislature. It's not Mandami, but Mandami sympathizes with that. But what annoyed me on this case other than the obvious travesty of a German 20 times that the police unions didn't stand up. All right? They didn't. They should be out there with signs in front of Clark's office. They should be screaming and yelling, nobody knows about the case. And these poor officers, if you and everybody and the cops know, they know they're not going to get a lot of support if they even get shot.
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Bill O'Reilly
Downy rinse fights stubborn odors in just one wash. When impossible odors get stuck in. And that's the final word. You got a guy who's soft on crime and Donnie, there's no question he's soft on crime. You got a budget cutter who's going to take money away from the police. You got 911 where the innocent people in New York who are set upon by dangerous criminals, that's their last line of defense. And that's going to collapse. I predict right now.
John Chalf
Last word, it's a recipe for disaster response. Times are going to go higher. Calls for service are up 20%. And then if you're going to hamstring the cops, they are not going to be proactive. They're going to be reactive. They're not going to take chances. And the collective effect is going to really hurt the city. We already came back from bail reform from 2022 because we were stuck in Covid. I don't know if we can come back a second time.
Bill O'Reilly
I don't know. Mandani in four years, is going to do so much damage, not only to the police, but to the social fabric of the city. It almost will be unrecognizable. Hey, chief, we really appreciate it. Enjoy your retirement and we'll talk again soon, I hope. Thank you.
John Chalf
Thank you, sir.
Bill O'Reilly
All right. Chicago is worse than New York, but I think New York will get worse than Chicago if Mandani wins tomorrow. So there is a suburb called Oak Park. Now listen to this. Halloween night, 500 young people, teenagers, gather for a. Not a riot. They call it a teen takeover. So the cops hear shots. You know, it's kind of predictable. There's no racial element here, by the way. It's a mixed crew, all races, and they're running down. They run a wild. And nobody does anything. There was not one arrest, not one. And you don't think the people in Oak park were afraid as 500 people, young people, obviously a couple have guns at least. This is Chicago. Cook county government shutdown. Okay, so day 34. Total delays over the weekend of airliners. Almost 17,000 delays coast to coast. Almost 1,000 cancellations. I gotta fly to LA on Wednesday. I may be hitchhiking. If you see me, pick me up. I'm hitchhiking west. It's bad. It's bad. Now, I'd appeal to the air traffic controls just for safety. Show up, you'll get your money. You're gonna get your money because this thing will get solved. It's frustrating for everybody, but show up, you know, don't call them sick. And don't do that because it's, you know, you don't want to paralyze the entire nation and put people in physical jeopardy. Just a appeal. Government is stealing from you. How about this? This is incredible. There are five cities that have set up secret cameras and dropped speed limits within the city limits so low. You can't go that slow. They are Washington D.C. new York City, Chicago, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. Okay? The biggest cities in the country. Not Los Angeles. So here's a scam. In the city limits of New York City, I live here and D.C. because I saw it firsthand. In D.C. it dropped the speed limit to 20 or 25 miles an hour. You go faster on a bike. All right, so if you don't live in a city, so you're coming from the suburb, you don't know that, right. So you're there and you're going 40 maybe, because that's the way, boom, you get put on a camera, you get a ticket in the mail. Could be 100, 150 more. Listen to Revenue. Philadelphia in two years collected $23 million doing this scam. New York City, two years, 222 million in fines. New York City stealing money from you and me. All right. Chicago, almost 100 million tickets given out in 2024. Last year, 100 million. So this is what it is. These cities all run big deficits because their finances are out of control. And now they go, how can we take money away from law abiding people? I mean, these are people that are speedy people going maybe 8 miles hour over the 25. You're doing 33, 34. They're gonna get you horrible. Back with the final thought in a moment. All right, final thought. As I mentioned earlier, I got to go to LA on Wednesday. We'll be there, do the Bill Marsh Show, Howie Mandel Show, Billy Bush show, lots of shows. And then I got a cast confronting evil for the movies. Busy. I'm hoping the plane takes off. I'll be whining if it doesn't. But that's what we got going on this week. But we will be here the rest of the week giving you the best information possible. Thank you very much for watching and no spin lose and listening on the radio. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you tomorrow.
Episode Summary: President Trump's 60 Minutes Interview, Obama Enters the Election Cycle & Retired NYPD Chief John Chell on the Dangers of a Mamdani Win
Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Guests: Donald Trump (via 60 Minutes interview clips), Norah O’Donnell, Barack Obama (clip), Retired NYPD Chief John Chell
Bill O’Reilly breaks down President Trump’s recent "60 Minutes" interview, critiquing its content and the missed opportunities by interviewer Norah O'Donnell. The show then explores Barack Obama’s renewed campaigning amid heightened political polarization, the state of government assistance as the federal shutdown continues, and culminates in an in-depth discussion with retired NYPD Chief John Chell concerning New York City’s mayoral race, public safety, and criminal justice reforms.
Theme: O’Reilly critiques the interview for its lack of substance and repetitive nature.
O'Reilly's Frustration:
Interaction Style with Trump:
Theme: Partial relief as SNAP (food stamps) funds set to be released; high prevalence of need and fraud.
Theme: O’Reilly summarizes and provides context for Trump’s stances as aired on "60 Minutes."
Theme: The potential impact of the Supreme Court’s pending tariff decision.
Theme: Assessment of the U.S.–China rivalry.
Theme: Obama steps back in to defend Obamacare and campaign for Democrats in key races.
Theme: Zoran Mamdani’s campaign and its perceived risks to public order.
Theme: Law enforcement challenges, city finances, and government “scams.”