
No Spin News - March 26, 2025
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Bill O'Reilly
So of course I didn't see this loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out.
Roy Gutterman
So your, your staffer did not put his contact information.
Bill O'Reilly
No.
Roy Gutterman
But how did it end up? Well, that's what we're trying to, that's.
Bill O'Reilly
What we're trying to figure out.
Roy Gutterman
Okay, but that's a pretty big problem. That is what we've got the best technical minds. Right.
Bill O'Reilly
That's just, and that's where, I mean, I'm sure everybody out there has had a contact where you, it was said one person and then a different phone number.
Roy Gutterman
Not me because I don't do that. If I have a serious conversation, it's on a hard line where if you tap a hard line, it's felony. I don't do signal. I don't know what signal is. And none of our national security people should be using it either. Okay? Because if Jeffrey Goldberg can get on it, so can the Chinese and the Russians. Okay? But at least Walsh owned up to it. It's in his purview. But I want a little more information. And Laura Ingraham did her job. I mean, she framed it the proper way. Now, I don't think anybody's going to get fired here. But Trump's embarrassed and he's angry about it. I know that to be true. But it's not a scandal, all right? It's a blunder. Okay? Scandal is far, far different. But not to the hate Trump media. Go, Wolf. This hearing is going to be hijacked by this scandal and that's really what it is for the Trump administration. We saw two Republican senators point to the fact that they plan to ask questions about this scandal inside of a closed door hearing which is going to take place later this afternoon. If anything, I would say the scandal looks worse for the Trump White House on the second day even than it did initially. Now over on Fox News, pundits were.
Bill O'Reilly
Trying their best to downplay the scandal.
Roy Gutterman
Though even there a few had to admit that this is kind of a big deal. Until what's the scandal? That somebody made a mistake and let this weasel Goldberg in? That's a blunder. There was no collusion. That would be a scandal. If Goldberg said, hey, let me into the thread. And then somebody said, okay, we'll sneak you in. That's a scam. Some nit width Dialing a wrong number or whatever happened is a blunder. Now, if it upgrades. And that's why the FBI needs to speak to Goldberg. All right? And that's the memo. Now, here's a media scandal. Kind of Wall Street Journal gets delivered to my door every day. The editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal are fair and backed with facts. The newspapers tilt left, but not crazy, right? So primarily a financial newspaper. There is a reporter, Melissa Korn, okay? She is a deputy bureau chief of the media team. Wow. Got a big title. She's trying to stick up for Jeffrey Goldberg. Trying to say this man is credibility. As I reported yesterday, he was the guy who reported that President Trump, in his first term, went to Europe and said that US soldiers killed in World War I were suckers. That never happened. And I investigated it, okay? Never happened. But Melissa somehow writes, quote, In September 2020, Goldberg reported that Trump referred to soldiers killed in battle during World War I as losers and suckers, citing multiple anonymous sources said they heard the remarks. Trump contested the reporting, though his chief of staff at the time confirmed he had used those words. Not true. Not true. The chief of staff was John Kelly. Now, Kelly excoriated Trump because Trump fired him and called Trump all kinds of names, but never said that we can find. And we did a big search that Trump said dead World War I soldiers were losers and suckers and a guy in the room who also hates Donald Trump. You know him. Former National Security Adviser John Bolton said this go. And according to what that article said, the president made disparaging remarks about our soldiers, the people buried at the Anmarne Cemetery, in connection with the decision for him not to go to the ceremony that was planned that afternoon. And that was simply false.
Bill O'Reilly
I don't know who told the author that, but that was false.
Roy Gutterman
Okay, that was false. Bolton was there following Trump around all day. And then I talked to myself, the other people who were there. Nobody heard that, even anonymously. So we have misreporting terrible journalism on the part of the Wall Street Journal. I'm surprised. I'm disappointed. Let's get another view of this. Joining us now from Syracuse, New York, is Roy Gutterman. He teaches communications at Syracuse University, but more importantly, he's a director of the Tully center for Free Speech, which is very prestigious. Am I making any mistakes here, Mr. Gutterman?
Bill O'Reilly
I wouldn't say you're making mistakes, but this discussion. And even if there's false information or erroneous information, that's part of the role of the press, and it's part of the role of an adversarial press to root out what the truth is and what people said, regardless of who the speaker is. And.
Roy Gutterman
Well, what are you referring to now? Who are you referring to now, Melissa? Corn.
Bill O'Reilly
Corn, okay.
Roy Gutterman
But Corn is using anonymous sources and saying that Jeffrey Goldberg's reportage for Atlantic was true and it wasn't. There is no evidence whatsoever, none from John Kelly or anybody else, that Trump said dead Americans during World War I were losers and suckers. Nut.
Bill O'Reilly
And well, if it's proving to be an untrue statement, I think we're finding that out.
Roy Gutterman
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Bill O'Reilly
Part of the media.
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That's right. And Corn puts this in the paper yesterday trying to bolster Goldberg's profile when Goldberg, in my opinion, is a far left weasel. But that's my opinion and as an analyst I'm entitled to it, as you know. But let's look at the big, bigger picture here. I told Clay and Buck on the radio today that if I had been Jeffrey Goldberg and I had been inadvertently admitted to this national security conference, I would have listened in as a reporter, I would have taken down the information. Do you think I'm wrong?
Bill O'Reilly
No. I mean, what you do with that information is a different story. But reporters, regardless of whether the reporters get things and get access to things that they shouldn't get all the time, we go back to the Pentagon Papers, the New York Times and the Washington Post shouldn't have had those documents, but they did. And look what it did for the discussion around the Vietnam War. Reporters get leaked information all the time, and sometimes they don't use everything, and sometimes it becomes a big story. Sometimes it even becomes a controversial story, as we're seeing this.
Roy Gutterman
And to be fair to Goldberg, this story happened on March 15, and he didn't break it until after the Houthi attack by the United States. So that's in his column as a positive. But what he's done in the past is simply outrageous. This man hates Donald Trump and uses anonymous sources to hurt him. And that's why I objected to Ms. Corn's reportage. But you're correct in the sense that if you're a reporter, you have to get the information, then you decide what to do with it. It. And I wouldn't put it out because obviously US Military is involved. Now, this kind of a situation, do you see it as a scandal?
Bill O'Reilly
It's still unfolding right in front of us, so we don't know who made a mistake, what the mistake was. All we know is a reporter got access to. To a classified meeting that he shouldn't have had access to.
Roy Gutterman
Don't you think the FBI should be interviewing a reporter and find out what the deuce is going on?
Bill O'Reilly
I'm never a fan of law enforcement coming after reporters, so.
Roy Gutterman
But how can you protect national security then? If there was a glitch in the national security system that allowed this guy to get on a ban, don't you think the FBI should know about it?
Bill O'Reilly
I think the FBI has the resources to find out exactly what happened without going to the reporter. I think the reporter's the last person.
Roy Gutterman
Why would you object to that? If I were a reporter, I'd answer all the questions honestly. I wouldn't be offended. I'd expect the FBI to show up.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, I think once law enforcement starts tapping into reporters or subpoenaing reporters or opening investigations into reporters, I think that can jeopardize the news gathering process. And that goes across the board, whether you're Jeffrey Goldberg at the Atlantic or a reporter at the Wall Street Journal or somebody at Fox. I think invading the news gathering process through law enforcement techniques jeopardizes the process for everybody.
Roy Gutterman
I put national security above the process of accumulating facts and information, particularly.
Bill O'Reilly
I agree with you on that.
Roy Gutterman
Yeah. Particularly when terrorism is involved. I mean, that's what I do. Okay, all right.
Bill O'Reilly
There are other means. Sure.
Roy Gutterman
Nah, I don't know if there are other means. I mean, and I wouldn't put it as an investigation. I would just say, you know, we want. Is that we want to find out what happens. So we're going to talk to this guy. He's not under any threat of indictment at all, or whatever you wanted to do, but Cash Patel should be doing something, in my opinion. Are you happy with the state of the media in America right now?
Bill O'Reilly
I mean, I'd like to see more media, to tell you the truth. I think it's. It's extremely discouraging to see independent media, particularly local media across the country, get consolidated and. And go out of business or cut their news hole. I think we're in a real crisis now with news deserts around the country. And I think readers, citizens, and the democracy itself can be imperiled without good independent mainstream media. And again, this is local, it's national, it's everywhere.
Roy Gutterman
I don't see any independent media in the corporations that are running the shows now on television or radio. I don't see any independents at all, do you?
Bill O'Reilly
No. Local media, particularly television, been bought up and consolidated.
Roy Gutterman
And they do what they're told.
Bill O'Reilly
These people do what they told you? Do what the boss tells you.
Roy Gutterman
Yeah. Because they want to make money. It's all about money, not about information flow. It concerns me greatly also, and this goes right to Syracuse University and the younger people who are interested in journalism and communications. There's no editors on the Internet. People say whatever they want, and people believe it, and I think that's a threat. But there's no way to control it under the First Amendment. Correct.
Bill O'Reilly
The First Amendment gives us a lot of protection, even protection to be wrong, even protection to be hateful. And that's part of the First Amendment. That's part of the marketplace of ideas that gives us.
Roy Gutterman
But when you have no editor, no structure, because I came up. This is 50 years for me in journalism. I got out of Boston University 50 years ago January, and I've been working steadily ever since. I'm the last Of a breed. I am the last one standing. And I came up in a structure and there were standards and stuff like that. Now there's no standards on the Internet. So my question to you is, do the younger people that you see every day, do they have the background, historically, information, frame of reference to know what's true and what isn't true?
Bill O'Reilly
Yes and no. I mean, today's college student is well informed with the information that they want to gather. They do ask questions, but, you know, every generation says the generation behind them doesn't know what they're talking about. So, you know, there's that sort of generational bias. But I think contemporary students nowadays are discriminating and do ask the questions. From a professional journalistic standpoint, they understand the infrastructure of a news operation. Unfortunately, the infrastructure to the news operation isn't the same that it was even when I was in the business. I got started as a newspaper reporter more than a few decades ago. And I remember every story I wrote passed through several editors and every editor had their own question. And I'd field that question at 9 or 10 at night and. And hit.
Roy Gutterman
I'm a little bit worried about the collapse of the public school system. Doesn't teach civics in history anymore. So that the J students, you know, when you say, hey, you know, Trump is appeasing Putin, everybody goes, yeah, that's right. Well, FDR did the same thing at Yalta. And I go, what?
Bill O'Reilly
Where's Yalta?
Roy Gutterman
What? That is worrisome. Professor, we really appreciate your time today. Thank you very much for helping us out.
Bill O'Reilly
My pleasure.
Roy Gutterman
Okay, pbs, npr, hopefully they'll be defunded. Now, why do I say that? Let me explain, because this is personal to me. So I know all these people and all of them, 100% of the people that I know in national public radio and PBS, okay, public broadcasting system, television, 100% are liberal. There's not one moderate. They're all left wing. So is the culture. So you walk in there, if they hire you and you're conservative, you're not going to be comfortable. Okay? So every year, my tax money and yours goes to fund these operations to the tune of $535 million a year. Now, when you talk a trillion dollar budget, but it's still 535 million a year, more than a million a day. Right to New York, right to these lefties. Okay, well, Donald Trump certainly doesn't want that to continue. Go. Would you be interested in defunding and.
Bill O'Reilly
Taking away taxpayer dollars to NPR and pbs? Well, I would love to do that.
Roy Gutterman
I think it's very unfair. It's been very biased, the whole group, I mean, a whole group of them. And frankly, there's plenty of, look at all the media you have right now. There's plenty of coverage. So Republicans, of course, taking their cue from President Trump, are going after the funding, going to have a hard time because the Democrats want the funding because PBS and NPR bolster the Democratic Party. This is political. So there were hearings today in the House and the Senate and a Congressman Pat Fallon from Texas asked the NPR CEO Katherine Mayer this question. Ms. Mayer, NPR, you believe your reporters are fair. You say you're fair and they're working at it.
Bill O'Reilly
I believe that they work to be every day, sir.
Roy Gutterman
They're non biased. And yet you have the voter registration issue. I mean, we're all human beings. We're all going to see through the world through a certain lens. And do you, are you aware of any Republicans, any registered Republicans in your newsroom? I couldn't say registered, but I know.
Bill O'Reilly
We have conservatives in our newsroom.
Roy Gutterman
Yes. Okay. So the red, the recent registration, when it was looked at 87, 87 Democrats and 0 Republicans registered, I found that very concerning. Like a bull in a china shop. Donald Trump came in to drain the.
Bill O'Reilly
Swamp in Washington, D.C. but, but with.
Roy Gutterman
His bold reform and rejuvenation agenda comes so many legal questions.
Bill O'Reilly
Nationwide injunctions, are they constitutional? What's the deal with birthright citizenship?
Roy Gutterman
What about the administrative state? Can he actually clean the deep state and end the politicization of the federal bureaucracy?
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Frontline used 12 favorable sound bites of people talking about Vice President Harris. Twelve in the hour. Guess how many favorable towards Trump? None. That's not just bias, because it's contemptible. Frontline knew what they were doing and they knew anybody watching it would know. But the only people that watch it are liberals, liberal Democrats, or any conservatives watching NPR or listening to NPR or watching pbs. So why should we be funding this? Let them compete on their own. I like the Four Tops as much as anybody. All right, I'll tune in and see James Taylor sell spots, advertise just like everybody else. I really hope they knock this out. All right, executive order number one, 100 something. Donald Trump every day. This one's on election. Remember, all 50 states run their own operations on election day. Okay? For example, 18 states and Puerto Rico, US territory allow votes that are cast after election day. Okay? So if you go, oh, I forgot, and then Monday after election or Wednesday after the Tuesday election, I hear they'll count them crazy. 18. So each state runs its own show. President Trump wants a coordination between the federal oversight, fcf, ec, Federal Election Commission, and the states. Signs the executive order. Executive order says this, that all people who vote have to provide documentation of citizenship, voter id. Got to be a citizen, number one. Number two, the order directs the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, to share information with the states. Okay? Number three, mail in ballots must be received by election Day, not a day after. Finally, foreign nationals are banned from any donations, any political donations, so the Chinese can't pump big money into Bernie Sanders, who's a communist. They have some patico. I like the. I like the executive order. It's going to, of course, immediately be challenged in court because you're going to say states have to control federal government, but you should know what's going on. This is most important to President Trump. The economy. If it this time next year, okay, Late March, if prices have not come down, unemployment has gone up and the economy is wobbling. The stock market, the Republicans will lose the midterms and Trump will be done toast. That's how important this is. So consumer confidence came out yesterday and it's low. New data released by consumer confidence survey says that the index fell 7 points and it is the fourth consecutive monthly decline. It began under Biden. It's the lowest level in 12 years. Consumer confidence. Why? Because of the tariffs and the stock market. Once the stock market comes down, Starts coming down and people see their 401ks and their retirement funds or college funds, sun climb in value, they get nervous, and nobody understands the tariffs anyway. So that's what's going on now. It could go turn around real quickly. I tell everybody, don't panic. Don't sell your equities unless you have a bad company, and you know it's bad. But this is the most important thing. Donald Trump, NBC News poll direction of the country. 1000 registered voters. Here is the question. You think things in the nation generally headed in the right direction or wrong direction? Right 44, wrong 54. But that's the highest right direction since 2004, according to CNN. So Trump is, you know, people are nervous, but he's still not in a bad spot. Lunacy on the Democratic Party. This is why President Trump has got more rope than he might ordinarily have, because the Democrats are crazy, just nuts. Bernie. We went over Bernie Sanders and Ocasio Cortez on their communist tour yesterday, and don't tell me they're not communists, because they are, and I proved it yesterday. I don't think she even knows what a communist difference between communism, socialism, but he does. All right, now we have an anti Doge rally where our pal Congresswoman Maxine Waters speaks. Go. If he wants to start looking so closely to find those who were born here and their parents were undocumented, maybe ought to first look at Melania. We don't know whether or not her parents were documented, and maybe we better just take a look. Yeah, we know this woman. There's nothing you can do. I mean, her district likes her, and that's that. Okay, so Melania Trump came to the U.S. from Slovenia as a model, 1996, became a citizen 10 years later, 2006, her parents became U.S. citizens. August of 2018. That is documented. Now, Congresswoman Waters doesn't care what the truth is at all. Never has. She just gets out there and says whatever the crowd she thinks the crowd wants to hear. In even worse is this Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett. This is the Dallas area, okay? The South Dallas area, which is heavily minority. So there is a Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, who's in a wheelchair, and here's what Ms. Crockett says. Go. Y'all know we got Governor High wheels down there. Come on, now. And. And the only thing hot about him is that he is a hot mess, honey.
Bill O'Reilly
So.
Roy Gutterman
So. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Right.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay.
Roy Gutterman
All right. I'm gonna move on. I'm gonna move on because I got other people this, this also hot in these streets. No? That's what we want representing our country, right? Someone who makes fun. Someone in a wheelchair. Now if you're conservative Republican, you want that to happen because the more of that that happens, the less the Democratic Party is valued. So it's a 30%. Now only 30% of Americans approve of the Democratic Party. Keep trotting those people out, it's going to be 20% really disturbing. Smart Life 50% of parents support adult children according to savings.com Interesting stats. So this is up from 47% last year. About 1,500amonth parents are giving to their adult children to survive. Cell phone, food, health, auto insurance, rent, on and on and on. More than 60% of parents say they've sacrificed their own financial security for the sake of their children. Okay, should you do that? Are you still quoting 30 year old movies? Have you said cool beans in the past 90 days? Do you think Discover isn't widely accepted? If this sounds like you, you're stuck in the past. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide. And every time you make a purchase with your card, you automatically earn cash back. Welcome to the now it pays to Discover. Learn more@discover.com credit card Based on the February 2024 Nielsen report, this episode is brought to you by Shopify. Upgrade your business with Shopify, home of the number one checkout on the planet.
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Bill O'Reilly
Isn't it just a square?
Roy Gutterman
How many US Senators are there? How many amendments are in the Bill of Rights? There's a lot. I know, I know. 17. Who won the Civil War? Oh, shoot. It's east or west, right? Well, it's the Civil War, so it's the civilians versus whoever was in power. How many justices are on the Supreme Court? Justices. So like when you say that like, you mean like the FBI? Who is on the 100 bill? Abraham Lincoln.
Bill O'Reilly
Nope.
Roy Gutterman
That's the first amendment. What's the second? Right to vote. Name three states that border Canada. We're just do one per person. Asia. I didn't know Canada had a border. This is why. Okay. They spend so much time on this, they don't know anything. They live in this world, create their own world. Now is that important? Yeah. Those kids, they're not going to prosper in a competitive society unless there's some tech genius where they can rap. So it's no surprise to me. But sad stay in history. March 25th, 1955. I was five years old and I love Davy Crockett. And 70 years ago today, the song Davy Crockett became number one in America. Go Davy, Davy Crockett King of the wild frontier.
Bill O'Reilly
Born on a mountaintop in.
Roy Gutterman
Tennessee the greenest state in the land.
Bill O'Reilly
Of the free Raised in the woods so they knew every tree and killed him a bar when he was only three.
Roy Gutterman
I remember that song. Okay, so Davy Crockett. That was five weeks at number one. There was a TV show starring Fess Parker, an actor. He was Davey. That was huge. Disney put it out and the thing just blew up. And then they. They marketed all Davy Crockett gear lunchboxes. I had a coonskin cap. I remember I run around my house and Levitt down with the little coonskin cap. Davy Crockett became a phenomenon. A phenomenon in this country for Disney. Now the Real Davy Crockett was a outdoorsman. He was a hunter. And then he became a congressman from Tennessee, and he didn't like it in Washington, so then he went to Texas and got slaughtered at the Alamo. Real guy, not a good guy, left his wife and kids. Okay, not a good guy. But Disney made him into the biggest hero in the world. And Fess Parker, the actor who played him, never really did anything after that. But he was for a few years one of the biggest stars in America. Davy Crockett franchise, $300 million to Disney. Whoa. Back in a moment with a final thought. Here's the final thought. I did Stephen A. Smith's podcast yesterday because we're doing a live show, as you know, on Sunday, Westbury, Long Island, 3pm Few tickets. We just put a few VIPs out. We had sold them out, but we made a little bit of room if you want to meet us after the show. Three American tour. So here's a bit of what we did on the Smith podcast. Go. I would like to state this for the record. I'm pretty impressed. It looks the suit that you have on now looks pretty sharp. But you know you're going to have to do better Sunday, right? You're going to have to up your game and elevate your elevate your style to some degree. You do understand that, Bill O'Reilly, right? You do get that? I was going to be tight. I was down in Palm beach this weekend. I bought a Brioni tie for the occasion. I had a trade in my car to buy it. But where do you see this tie? Okay. No matter what kind of pink jacket you show up with, what, what kind of little pocket hanky you have, it's not going to top this Brioni tie. I give you a little flavor. We are going to have a lot of fun at this show, but serious topics are going to be discussed as well. LeBron James just came out and attacked Stephen A. Again. So for an evening or an afternoon, you will never forget, the three Americans tour Westbury Sunday. Coming on up. Love to see you if you want to meet us. And I don't know why anyone would. We got 15 VIP tickets just released. So anyway, we hope to see at the show and we very much appreciate that you tune in to watch the no Spin news and are listening on our radio stations all across the country. It's very nice of you to do that. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We'll see you again tomorrow.
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Hey, I'm Mike Slater. I have a podcast called Politics by Faith. We have a very simple mission. We take the news of the day and we filter it through a biblical worldview.
Roy Gutterman
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Bill O’Reilly’s No Spin News and Analysis
Episode: Security Breach Aftermath, Journalism in America With Roy Gutterman, Donald Trump's Executive Order on Elections & More Democrat Lunacy
Release Date: March 27, 2025
1. National Security Meeting Breach
The episode opens with Bill O’Reilly addressing a significant national security incident involving Mike Walsh, the National Security Adviser. An inadvertent mistake allowed Jeffrey Goldberg, a liberal journalist from The Atlantic, to access a confidential meeting on the Signal app discussing strategies against Houthi terrorists in Yemen.
Bill O'Reilly [04:01]: "It's just...we can't have this again. And if it happens again, people are going to have to get fired."
Roy Gutterman emphasizes the gravity of the breach, questioning how Goldberg's contact information was obtained and advocating for FBI involvement to investigate the lapse.
Roy Gutterman [05:42]: "Goldberg should be interviewed by FBI agents. Right?"
2. Media Bias and Journalism
O’Reilly and Gutterman delve into the role of the media in perpetuating this scandal. They critique the media's handling of the situation, highlighting a Wall Street Journal article by Melissa Korn that attempts to defend Goldberg's credibility despite inaccuracies in his reporting about President Trump.
Roy Gutterman [09:52]: "But Corn is using anonymous sources and saying that Jeffrey Goldberg's reportage for The Atlantic was true and it wasn't."
Gutterman presents evidence disputing Goldberg’s claims, asserting that there is no substantiated proof of Trump referring to fallen World War I soldiers as "losers and suckers." This misrepresentation, according to Gutterman, exemplifies "terrible journalism."
Roy Gutterman [10:22]: "We're finding it out because of me. Did you know that Fast Growing Trees is the biggest online nursery in the USA..."
3. FBI Investigation into Jeffrey Goldberg
The discussion shifts to the appropriate response to the security breach, with Gutterman advocating for a thorough FBI investigation into Goldberg's access to the classified meeting. O’Reilly expresses reservations about law enforcement interfering with journalistic processes.
Bill O'Reilly [15:17]: "Once law enforcement starts tapping into reporters or subpoenaing reporters... it jeopardizes the news gathering process."
Gutterman counters by prioritizing national security over the integrity of the press, stressing the necessity of understanding how such a breach occurred.
Roy Gutterman [15:56]: "I put national security above the process of accumulating facts and information, particularly when terrorism is involved."
4. State of Media and Democracy in America
O’Reilly laments the decline of independent media in the United States, noting the consolidation and closure of local news outlets which he believes endangers democracy.
Bill O’Reilly [16:25]: "We’re in a real crisis now with news deserts around the country."
Gutterman echoes these concerns, highlighting the lack of truly independent voices in mainstream media and the detrimental effect of profit-driven reporting on information quality.
Roy Gutterman [17:06]: "I don't see any independent media in the corporations that are running the shows now on television or radio."
5. President Trump's Executive Order on Elections
A substantial portion of the episode is dedicated to President Donald Trump's Executive Order aimed at reforming election processes across the states. The order includes stringent measures such as:
O’Reilly outlines the potential legal challenges, particularly regarding states' autonomy over elections, and emphasizes the administration's focus on safeguarding election integrity.
Bill O'Reilly [22:46]: "Executive order says this, that all people who vote have to provide documentation of citizenship, voter ID."
6. Economic Concerns: Consumer Confidence
The conversation transitions to the state of the economy, referencing a recent consumer confidence survey. The index has dropped by seven points, marking the fourth consecutive monthly decline and the lowest level in twelve years. O’Reilly attributes this downturn to tariffs and stock market volatility, advising listeners to remain calm and avoid panic selling unless holding non-performing investments.
Bill O'Reilly [31:18]: "Don't panic. Don't sell your equities unless you have a bad company, and you know it's bad."
7. Democratic Party Critique
O’Reilly and Gutterman express strong criticisms of the Democratic Party, labeling prominent figures like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as communists. They argue that the party's policies and rhetoric are extreme and detrimental to American values.
Bill O'Reilly [32:11]: "So why should we be funding this? Let them compete on their own."
Gutterman further criticizes Democratic strategies, highlighting instances of perceived incompetence and manipulation within the party's leadership.
8. Youth Education and Media Consumption
The duo discusses concerns over the current education system, particularly the lack of civics and history education. Gutterman worries that without a solid educational foundation, young Americans may struggle to discern truth from misinformation, ultimately hindering their ability to compete in a globalized society.
Roy Gutterman [18:53]: "Do the younger people that you see every day, do they have the background, historically, information, frame of reference to know what's true and what isn't true?"
9. Historical Reflection on Davy Crockett
In a lighter segment, Gutterman reminisces about the cultural phenomenon of Davy Crockett in the 1950s, contrasting the real historical figure with his Disney portrayal. This reflection serves to underscore the power of media in shaping public perception.
Roy Gutterman [37:19]: "Davy Crockett became a phenomenon. A phenomenon in this country for Disney."
10. Final Thoughts and Upcoming Events
Concluding the episode, O’Reilly promotes an upcoming live show and briefly mentions Stephen A. Smith’s podcast, emphasizing ongoing discussions on political and social issues.
Bill O'Reilly [38:40]: "I hope we knock this out. All right, executive order number one, 100 something. Donald Trump every day."
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Bill O'Reilly [04:01]: "It's just...we can't have this again. And if it happens again, people are going to have to get fired."
Roy Gutterman [05:42]: "Goldberg should be interviewed by FBI agents. Right?"
Roy Gutterman [17:06]: "I don't see any independent media in the corporations that are running the shows now on television or radio."
Bill O'Reilly [15:17]: "Once law enforcement starts tapping into reporters or subpoenaing reporters... it jeopardizes the news gathering process."
Roy Gutterman [18:53]: "Do the younger people that you see every day, do they have the background, historically, information, frame of reference to know what's true and what isn't true?"
Conclusion
In this episode of No Spin News and Analysis, Bill O’Reilly and Roy Gutterman provide a critical examination of recent national security lapses, media biases, and political maneuvers. They advocate for stricter oversight of journalistic practices, emphasize the importance of maintaining independent media, and support President Trump's efforts to reform election processes. Throughout the discussion, they express concerns about the current state of the economy, the direction of the Democratic Party, and the educational foundations of young Americans. The episode concludes with a mix of political commentary and reflections on historical media phenomena, reinforcing the show's commitment to delivering fact-based analysis without spin.