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The Death of Pope Francis, Democrats Advocate for Kilmar Abrego Garcia, Brian Townsend on the Border's Narcotics Crisis & More Stock Market Turbulence
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No Spin News - April 21, 2025
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Bill O'Reilly
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Foreign here. Welcome to the no Spin News for Monday, April 21, 2025. Stand up for your country. Well, the Pope has passed. Amazing story. Easter Sunday there is an apopemobile after pretty intense two months of illness, double pneumonia, 88 years old and he's out in Madison Square. Thousands of people. And then he talks to Vice President Vance. We'll get into all of this. It's an important story even if you don't believe in God or the Catholic Church or the Pope or anything like that because it clashes theology and politics and that's gonna increasingly become important in this world, not just in this country. And that is the subject of this evening's Talking Points memo. So Pope died at 7:35 this morning Monday in Rome. And it was 88 as I mentioned. And people were shocked because of yesterday's Pope mobile appearance. And he looked very clear eyed as he walked around and greeted everybody. And they were ecstatic. I was in Vatican City, I think it was 81 on Easter Sunday. It's an amazing thing to be there. And The Pope spent 17 minutes with Vice President Vance and gave his children, you know, his small children, some chocolate eggs and they had a nice conversation. It was not intense. The vice President said that the Pope invited him. It was the Pope's invitation. So I guess Vance was the last outsider famous person to talk with the Pope. I'd be interested to hear what the Vice President has to say about that conversation. He's in India now talking to Modi, the Indian President about, you know, the tariffs and all this stuff that's going on. All right, a little bit about the Pope. Jorge Mario Bergoglio, born in Flores, Argentina, right outside of Buenos Aires, came a Jesuit priest in 1969, that Jesuits are the intellectual wing of the Catholic Church. It is a liberal group. Now, back then, not so much. The Jesuits were involved in a movie, the Exorcist. In the book, okay, he was appointed cardinal in 2001 by Pope John Paul II. Now in that time in Argentina, I was down there covering the Falklands War. So I saw it firsthand. It was ruled by a military junta coming off Juan Peron. There was no freedom there, really. It was a police state and most of the people were poor, desperately poor, because the oligarchy in Argentina stole all the money. Very important for you to understand that. So what the cardinal saw then, subsequently the Pope, was massive poverty fueled by corruption. And he became a liberation theologian. And many, many Catholic priests who work in the Third World are that the problem that Jorge Mario had was that he put the blame on capitalism for the poverty. And that was wrong. There is an editorial in the Wall Street Journal stating that it wasn't capitalism that were keeping the people poor. It was the corrupt administration government in Argentina run by a guy named Galtieri. When I was there, and you had to fear him, Gaultieri would have you killed. And I don't blame. I don't think there were stories about, you know, how the cardinal didn't do what he should have done. A bunch of both. All right, so then he gets to be Pope and he comes on in and eight years ago, I almost to the day I met him in a very brief conversation, but. But I was in his proximity for two hours and I'm a reporter and I watched every move the man made. And he dealt with hundreds of people. He was exceedingly kind and patient. He was 80 years old. And my interaction with him was just a greeting primarily. But he and I stared at each other for maybe 15 seconds after I said buenos dias. I addressed him in Spanish and it was eerie. He didn't break my gaze. I don't know whether he recognized me or knew I was in the small group. I don't know, but it was just as something came off of him. Okay, so the Pope ran into trouble in America and some other European countries because of his. Because not sympathy so much, but he. Promotion, I think that's a better word. He promoted illegal immigration in the sense that he said, if you are a Christian, you have to treat these people with dignity. That was everything. Now, on December 31, 2019, five and a half years ago, here's what I said. As for Pope Francis himself, he is a liberation theology guy. He lives in a world where religion, Christianity and Catholicism are there to improve the plight of the poor. You must understand where he is coming from. That is his mission. The poor help the poor, the downtrodden, the incarcerated, the migrants. Help them, help them, help them, help them does not go against Christianity. Does not. The only problem with Pope Francis is he gets into trouble when his solutions make the poverty and migrant problem worse and hurt good minded people, which he has done. Pope has done that. Remember when the Pope spouts a political opinion that had nothing to do with theology. He's not infallible. It's not dogma. It's not any of that. It's just his opinion as an Argentinian cleric, which is what he is. I like him. I think he's a sincere man. I think he tries to help people. And that's my bottom line for Pope. I don't need Winston Churchill in there. Did you know that Fast Growing Trees is the biggest online nursery in the USA with thousands of different plants and more than 2 million happy customers. They have all the plants your yard needs like fruit trees, privacy trees, shrubs and much more. Whatever plants you're interested in, Fast Growing Trees has you covered. Just order online, get your dream yard delivered right to your door. And this spring they have the best deals, up to half off on select plants. Plus my listeners get 15% off their first purchase when using Code Bill at checkout. That's an additional 15% off@fast growingtrees.com with code BILL at checkout, now is the perfect time to plant. That's fast growingtrees.com don't forget, use Code Bill to save offers valid for a limited time. 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But he didn't analyze the migrant movements in a way that I believe was effective number one or responsible number two, not. I guess I'm committing a sin here, calling a former pope irresponsible. But he wasn't actively trying to do that. But he couldn't see the big picture. Picture. And you'll remember his quote about the Trump administration. You have to build bridges, not walls. Well, you got to obey the law. Your Holiness, I wish I had been able to. I was close to getting an interview with him, and I wish I had, because that's what I would have said. You got to obey the law. The law is there for a reason, to protect people. You can't just say, I don't like this law because it hurts some poor people. And it does. Our exclusion of everybody in the world who's poor hurts people. If they could come here, they'd be a lot better off. That's true. But we can't do it. We can't afford it, we can't supervise it, we can't assimilate it. No nation could on this earth. And that's the truth. So I put this up to the Pope, being naive and living in a world of theory. And here's the kicker. On Pope Francis, Jesus the Nazarene was exactly the opposite. Not in his compassion, Jesus. Jesus was the most compassionate person ever to live. If you believe in the works, and I do, okay. But Jesus respected the law. They trapped, try to trap him with the coin thing. And then he said, render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's. And the message was, look, you have an obligation as a human being to help the downtrodden, to help everybody. That's Christianity. You got got to help other people. If you can't do that or won't do that, you can't be Christian. But you have to obey the law, even if it's Roman law. And Roman law was horrible. It was oppressive. There was no freedom. Tiberius made an order. You obeyed it. And you're on a cross if you didn't. But Jesus understood that he couldn't preach himself. If he defied Tiberius, they would have killed him in a heartbeat, just as they killed his cousin, John the Baptist. They beheaded him because he criticized adultery on the part of the Roman governor. And if you're going to do that, you're going to die. And Jesus knew it. And Jesus's time was not to die. He needed two years to establish Christianity. So Jesus much more realistic than Pope Francis. I get a lot of mail saying, well, Pope Francis has walls in the Vatican. He doesn't let everybody in. Okay, I got it, I got it. But that's just, that's not important. What's important is the mindset, all right, that you've got to help people if you're Christian, all right, you have to. You're compelled to, but you can't hurt people in the process. You can't hurt other people in the process. And I don't think Francis ever molded, melded those two together. If he did, I didn't see it in the public statements. All right, so Donald Trump will be over there. And I was thinking about going, but I probably can't. But I'm going to think about it overnight to go to the funeral. But I don't know if I can do it logistically, but I'll think about it. And that's the memo. All right, now right off the migrant situation, an update on Kilmar Garcia. 29 years old, Maryland. He's got a wife, American wife. He's got a five year old son who has autism. Some people say he's a gang member. Some people say he's a good guy. It's being used by the Democrats and the liberals, the anti Trump crew, to say that Trump is a tyrant. Trump doesn't obey this, Trump doesn't obey that. This will unfold. Right now, four other Democratic congressmen are in El Salvador trying to do Hotshot. It's and over the weekend, you know that Senator Chris Van Holten of Maryland went over. But the Trump administration is going to do what it wants to do. I said to bring him back, let him be adjudicated in the court system because he's already in the system. He had applied for asylum. Okay, he's already there. So I bring him back, let the system handle him. That's what I would have done had I been president. Okay. But Trump thinks he's a bad guy. Roll the tape. You're talking about Abrego Garcia. Is that the one? Yeah. Is an illegal alien. Ms. 13, gang member and foreign terrorist. This comes out of the State Department and very legitimate sources. I mean, I assume I'm reading. I'm just giving you what they handed to me. But this was supposed to be certified stuff. Okay. Now he may well be Ms. 13, I don't know. But the government has to lay out its case before the asylum judge and that's it. That's the way it works. I don't know what's going to happen here. The Trump administration, tough. I do know that the hate Trumpers and the media that enables that, loves that are running with this guy and they're going to be sorry because Garcia, even if he's not. Ms. 13, not a good guy, he's not. And you're making this guy out to be a hero. Roll tape. Cnn. There's a broader pattern of this administration leaning in and trying to get away with as much as possible. And court after court after court across the country, including in some of the cases I'm working on, have to say to them, hey, you are overstepping my orders. We have a president who said he wanted to be a dictator on day one. Well, that's a lie. But this guy Eisen, I mean, he's a Trump hater. He just goes on. And you know what I object to most of all? You know what ICE is going to say? You book him, you know, but the anchor at CNN just, she knows he didn't say dictator on day one. Other than that, what he'll do with the car industry. She knows that. Everybody knows that, yet she just lets it go. That's irresponsible. I fire her like that, be fired, boom, immediately comes off the set. I'd say, look, we don't need your services. You've got to be a responsible journalist. When somebody tells an untruth to the CNN audience, gotta call them on it. See you. Bye. Have a good Life. Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. In my career, I have interviewed seven presidents, covered every, every major story of the last few decades. But I've never seen an opportunity like this one. President Trump's second term could mirror the economic boom of the 1920s, a time when unemployment hit 1.8%, stocks soared 265%. Ordinary Americans had their shot at real prosperity. That's why I've recorded a special presentation with renowned investment expert Alexander Green called the Rebirth of the American Dream. Alex will reveal how President Trump plans to slash regulations, cut taxes, bring manufacturing back to America and unlock the AI driven tech boom. Plus, you will get details on six specific stocks that could soar during Trump's presidency. Please visit Trump's AmericanDream.com to watch our presentation now border lowest in history. Now amazing achievement by the Trump administration. And it is 673 a day in March. That's it. Okay, that was down from 5,000 in March 24 under Biden. 5,673. 94% lower because Trump just enforcing the law and he got Mexico to put their troops on the northern border. That's why. But apparently illicit drug seizures are not down. What? So some stats. 49 million Americans are involved with substance abuse, 27 million of them drug addicts. That's a big market. 27 million. Okay. USA spends 46 billion to fight the drug problem every year. 86,000 died from overdoses in the latest stats. 178,000 died from excessive drinking in the latest stats. That's in a year that's horrendous. I mean, a quarter of a million people biting the dust. Joining us now from Springfield, Missouri, is a former special agent of the DEA Drug Enforcement Agency. He served in law enforcement 28 years. Brian Townsend, who is an expert on the drug situation. All right, I don't understand. So if you're sealing a border down and illegal migrants, many whom were carrying illegal narcotics with them for the cartel smuggling them in, why aren't drugs, why are drug seizures actually up? From the Biden administration?
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Brian Townsend
Yeah, thanks, Bill, for having me on. The problem is these cartels, these criminal networks are, they're highly adaptive. They're very sophisticated and they're going to respond to our movement on the border and the, you know, the decrease in apprehensions in a way that makes them successful and unfortunately specific.
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Bill O'Reilly
Specific. I mean, if they're nailing down all of the illegal crossings in the night over the river into the desert, there's a truck picks them up, takes them to Chicago. If all of that is stopped, how are the heroin, the cocaine, the methamphetamine, the fentanyl?
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Mike Slater
My name is Mike Slater. I have a podcast called Politics by Faith. I was just talking to a friend of mine who said he hasn't been able to follow the news lately. It's been too much, it's too crazy. It's driving him crazy and he's just checked out. If you feel that way sometimes, too, I think you'll really like our podcast, Politics by Faith, we take the main story of the day and we run it through the Bible. What does the Bible say about this? It's amazing, but it's all there. And then God tells us what to do. We don't even have to figure it out. The answers are right there. He gives us the answers. Politics by Faith. Please join us over there. You can listen to it wherever you're listening to this podcast right now. Politics by Faith.
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Brian Townsend
Well, the legal points of entry, the same roads and highways that we would take to go into Mexico are the same ways that they're bringing a lot of the drugs into the United States are just, you know, they're trying to overwhelm the. Our resources there with just the high volume of traffic. And, and, you know, fentanyl is. It's. It doesn't take a lot to do a lot of damage. I mean, so, you know, multiple small loads is just as effective as, you know, one or two large loads. And, you know, they'll use tunnels, they'll use drones, they'll use, you know, the ocean, Canada. I mean, they're gonna. They're gonna adapt. They're going to figure out ways to.
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Bill O'Reilly
All right, I got it. But it should. I'm stunned that the drug importation is up while the migrants have been largely stopped. Now, fentanyl is usually mixed in with heroin or cocaine, and that's how it's sold on the street. The price of drugs on the street is pretty cheap right now throughout the United States, right?
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Brian Townsend
It is. Unfortunately, we haven't seen a rise in our prices. That means they just saturate the market and they continue to do so. They're very good at that. They, you know, they control the supply chain, the distribution chain. And, yeah, we haven't seen a reduction in the prices, unfortunately. The demand is too great.
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Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, the demand is huge. And it's not expensive now to buy a lot of drugs, even though crimes are committed to get the money by the addicts. My thing has always been, you're not going to win the importation war. You're not going to stop the drug importation. It's just too much corruption, too much money, and you're always going to get it in. And if I'm wrong, tell me, because 30 years in this business, you know more than I do, but you can't stop it, particularly when you have almost 30 million Americans wanting to buy it on a daily basis. But the demand side, you can't stop. And that's what they did in Singapore, where I Did my thesis at Harvard on they stopped the demand side, where if you are caught in Singapore, which is a fascist country with drugs in your bloodstream, you go to mandatory drug rehab, 21 months. So you're gone. You can't buy any drugs anymore. And they took the market away. So there's no drug problem in Singapore. You couldn't exactly do that here, but you could replicate some of it. Am I wrong?
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Brian Townsend
Yeah, we could absolutely do more here to reduce the demand. We, you know, first of all, let's, let's. Let's have the serious conversation. Let's fund it, you know, instead of putting Band aids on the situation. I mean, we. We have such a small portion of the world's population, yet we consume the majority of drugs. I mean, we need to figure that.
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Bill O'Reilly
Anyone else out, you know, by far.
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Brian Townsend
More than anyone else.
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Bill O'Reilly
Right. Because we have money. But you say fund the drug rehab. You got to want drug rehab. Most of these addicts don't want it. And that comes from the rehab studies. They don't want to get off it. They want to be high every day. And you can take them in and try to rehab and then back out. And they want to use. Right?
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Brian Townsend
Yeah. Unfortunately, we know it does take, you know, numerous attempts through rehab to. To.
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Bill O'Reilly
To.
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Brian Townsend
To break through. Right. To help them.
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Bill O'Reilly
So why am I doing that? I don't want my. I don't want my money doing that. I don't want to spend money on those people. I want to take them, put them someplace for a period of time, all right? Isolate them, and then if they do it again, then the period of time gets more, and then they'll stop because they can't get their drugs. I don't want to be paying for 15 rehabs. Am I wrong? Am.
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Brian Townsend
I mean, I think we need to isolate. Why are they using drugs? I mean, that's why we.
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Bill O'Reilly
What do you mean, why? They're using it because they want to get high. That's why they're using it. They want to get intoxicated. What do I. I don't care whether they had a bad childhood.
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Brian Townsend
All right, Well, I mean, well, may not be our problem, but. But we can. We can be human towards them and. And fund that problem because we know that that trauma, the abuse, those things are waste. You know, we can. If we can solve the root problems, we can.
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Bill O'Reilly
You can't solve the root problem. This is like migration. You can't sign a root problem. The root problem is they're poor in Honduras. We're wealthy. That's the root problem. Ask Kamala Harris. She was in charge of the root problem. The root problem of taking drugs is weakness, cowardice. These people are weak. They want to get high. They don't want to live in the real world. That's what drives me crazy, because we as a country won't admit it. Last word.
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Brian Townsend
I know we look at this as a moral failing, but I think there's more than this, than that. And the stigma and the way that we treat folks because of this make it difficult for them to get treatment. And I think if we look at this a little differently, yeah, we might spend a little more money on the front end, but I think on the back end, we're going to be. One is saving people, and number two, is ultimately saving money.
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Bill O'Reilly
All right.
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Brian Townsend
Resources.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, you and I have a gentleman's disagreement. And you talk about stigma. What about the stigma of these people mugging some old lady, going to the bodega, trying to get some food, you know, is that okay?
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Brian Townsend
Yeah, no, absolutely.
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Bill O'Reilly
What about ruining the city of San Francisco? What about shooting up heroin in your neck in front of children? What about all that? Does anybody feel sorry for them? I'll tell you what, I'm in charge of this, Mr. Townsend. You give me six months, I'll cut it by half. But these people aren't going to like what happens to them. I'm not going to be mean to them, not going to abuse them. They're not going to be. They're going to be isolated, and that is the only way to do it. We appreciate your time very much. Okay. More stock market turbulence today. I talked with President Trump yesterday, Easter Sunday. He says relief's on a way good things are going to happen. I don't reply because I don't know, which I did. I wish I had that crystal ball. I talked to my stockbroker today, and I said, you know, I get the feeling that maybe this is bottomed out here because we're down, what, 15%? 10, 12. 15%. And, you know, is there any upside or we should be looking at. He has no blanket. And I got this guy for 40 years. Nobody knows. But one thing Donald Trump does know, he doesn't get this under control soon, it's over. His legacy is done. And that is true. Now, you're never going to get a. An accurate picture on what's going on economically in this country because the media hates Trump. But Redfin, which is a real estate brokerage company, they did a survey about whether people are pausing big purchases in ar. So does President Trump's tariff policy affect your timeline for making a major purchase? 17% say no, 56% say yes. That's recession time. We got to get past this tariff thing pretty fast because that's a big number. So if you're going to buy a house or car, people go, maybe not. Now let's see how this goes the longer that goes. Smart life. So where I live in Long island, gas prices down 20%. I don't see that reported any place I know because I'm pumping the gas in the car. That's pretty Good. Less than 100 days of Donald Trump. My gas bill's down 20%. Thank you. As because he took the regulations off and they're pumping gas like crazy. Nationwide, it's down 15%. Again, media doesn't report it, but here's the problem. Yes, the corporate media, all of it is declining. And you take Donald Trump away from Fox News, okay, which is 100% reliant on the president. Now take the that out. Fox News is in dire trouble because they're not reporting things that really are important to your life. But the consumer, the news consumer doesn't care. I'm seeing it more and more and more and more. They don't seek information about what's really happening. There are some good things as far as driving prices of gas and food in particular down with this tariff thing. It's got to get clarified. Okay? RFK assassination files released now. I wrote a book called Killing the Mob. Big bestseller number one. In Killing the Mob, we discussed Robert Kennedy Jr. S assassination because the he was after the mob. He destroyed rfk, not RFK junior. Robert Kennedy destroyed the mob. He was unbelievable. And they wanted to kill him. And we looked into the assassination part of that presentation. His son, RFK Jr. I interviewed him for the book and he told me, look, that was a conspiracy. Sirhan Sirhan didn't do it. And I went, no, But I put RFK jr's comments in the book to be fair. All right, the assassination files released Friday. Here is the quote from Saran Saran what he wrote down himself. The assassin quote. RFK must be disposed of like his brother was. My determination to eliminate RFK is becoming more and more of an unshakable obsession. That was before he assassinated the man. You're going to tell me he didn't do it. Okay. This day in history, April 21, 1986. The most watched syndicated special in American history. Okay? On television, the Most watched special. 30 million viewers watch this special today, 39 years ago, what Was it Geraldo Al Capone's vault? Here's how Geraldo set it up. Go. Hello again, everyone, and welcome to the old Lexington Hotel, where 60 years ago, during the height of the roaring twenties and prohibition, this once lavish building belonged or was the headquarters for the notorious gas. Thanks to Al Capone. All right, I was live. And for the next 110 minutes, Geraldo bloviated about Al Capone and what he did and the vault in the hotel and all of that 110 minutes obliviating. Then the suspense stopped. Go. At least up to now that we've struck out with the vault. I'm disappointed about that, as I'm sure you are. This is one time in my life that pot of gold would have been a lot more fun than chasing the rainbows. Nothing. They found nothing. Now, who is the winner? Geraldo. He got paid a bloody fortune for doing it and became even more famous. And it wasn't his fault because they didn't know. It wasn't a fault. All right. It was supposed to be. Oh, I'll find out now. All right. The Geraldo Al capone special happened 39 years ago today. Take a quick break. We'll be back with a final thought. You're going to like, I hope your life. And that'll be after these messages. All right, final thought of the day. Easter Sunday. There was a problem I had to solve and it was an important problem and it was very complicated. It is very complicated. So I couldn't solve it. And I'm good at that, really good at it. I couldn't solve it. I'm not going to tell you what it is. That's not the point of this final thought. But I spent a lot of time on Easter Sunday rolling this around, trying to get some kind a perspective to how to make this situation better. I just couldn't. I just could not find the pathway. So what I decided to do was nothing. Okay? That is the Eastern Asian way. When people who practice Buddhism, believe in Confucius, Shinto, you know, when they come up against something that is not going to get better in the short term, they don't do anything. And then naturally things evolve. That's what I decided to do. But it kills me to do it because I'm Type A, I can solve the problem. People come to me all the time, feel like Don Corleone sometimes, you know, I have this problem and 90% of the time I could solve that problem or give them. That's why we have the concierge membership. You know, give them some guidance. This one I couldn't do, but I know other things are going to happen that will bring me back into a solution. In the meantime, however, I have to protect somebody who's in harm's way because of this problem. I can't solve the problem, but I have to protect the person who may get hurt there. I came up with a solution. Okay, Now I'm a little vague because I have to be. But if somebody is going to get hurt, then you put the problem aside that you can't solve and you build a firewall to help the person who's in jeopardy. And I did it. That took me five hours yesterday on.
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Brian Townsend
Easter.
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Bill O'Reilly
But it was worth it. And that's the final thought of the day. Said we Americans are an impatient people. We went get those tariffs right now. Get that stock market up right now. Sometimes you just gotta let it ride, okay? But you can always provide protection. Sometimes it isn't easy. That is the final thought. We thank you very much for watching and listening to the no Spin News. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We will see you again tomorrow.
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