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Episode: The Radical Left Is Playing with Fire—Bill O’Reilly Warns What’s Coming Next with Jillian Michaels
Date: October 17, 2025
Host: Bill O'Reilly (A)
Guest Host & Interviewer: Jillian Michaels (B)

Episode Overview

In this episode, Bill O’Reilly joins Jillian Michaels for an intense, unfiltered discussion on the rising tide of political extremism, propaganda, and moral inversion in America. They examine historical precedents for present-day dangers, the role of social media, the failures of education, and the personal and societal costs of speaking truth to power. O’Reilly also offers rare insight into his recent private meeting with the Chinese Communist Party Politburo and addresses next steps for confronting evil at home and abroad.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Comparing Today’s Climate to Historical Precedents

• [02:34] O’Reilly compares the current climate to the late ‘60s Vietnam era, citing intense violence, political division, and anti-police sentiment then—but notes today’s 'hatred' is fixated on individuals, principally Donald Trump, rather than war or policy.
  • “Now we’re in a different cycle of hatred because it’s just one man that’s generating the hatred and that’s Donald Trump.” (A, 03:39)

2. Escalating Political Rhetoric & Demonization

• [04:04] Michaels raises alarm over inflammatory rhetoric, notably from the left, referencing public figures making broad accusations and politicians equating ICE with the Gestapo.
  • [06:07] O’Reilly points out that both sides employ demonization, but “Newsom’s taking the Donald Trump playbook of demonizing the opposition... I mean, Trump should sue Newsom for plagiarism.” (A, 06:34)
• O’Reilly estimates that 15% of Americans are “evil,” explaining evil as knowingly harming others without remorse.

3. Role of Social Media in Radicalization

• [08:24] O’Reilly argues social media acts as a “central meeting place for the loons,” radicalizing mentally ill individuals and amplifying dangerous ideologies—something not possible in the Vietnam era due to a less decentralized media and no algorithms feeding extremist content.

4. Propaganda, Historical Parallels, and "Looking Away"

• [10:21] O’Reilly draws parallels between historical propaganda (e.g. Hitler’s Germany) and modern-day manipulation by authoritarian figures like Putin and the Iranian regime.
  • “90% of the German people in 1934 voted to give Hitler dictatorial powers, knowing... he wrote a book that said, I’m going to wipe out a whole bunch of people... That’s because they looked away.” (A, 11:28)
• Both O’Reilly and Michaels emphasize “looking away,” ignorance, and apathy as ingredients enabling evil to spread.

5. Moral Inversion & Political Violence

• [12:53] Michaels discusses the disturbing trend of celebrating political violence and the justification of it due to propaganda and dehumanization.
• [13:49] O’Reilly blames ignorance and poor civic education, lamenting that young voters and some urban voters are “not aware enough to know what’s around the corner,” referencing the potential election of a communist mayor in NYC.

6. The Dilemma of Intervention

• [16:32] Debate on whether to intervene when cities make self-destructive political choices. O’Reilly: “The people who say, well, they get what they deserve... there’s going to be a lot of dead people.”
• Outlines how evil thrives: “Evil needs two things, OK? To really prosper, it needs good people to not pay attention, to be apathetic... and it needs gullible, maybe dumb people to sign on.” (A, 16:53)

7. Playbook for Silencing Dissent & Media Sympathies

• [19:25] O’Reilly references Saul Alinsky’s “Rules for Radicals,” asserting the left intentionally attempts to destroy opponents’ reputations and careers.
  • “If you go against the far left orthodoxy, they will come after you. And the far right will too. But it’s a different thing because they don’t have centralized power...” (A, 20:54)
• [22:52] O’Reilly breaks industry news: ABC’s reinstatement of Jimmy Kimmel was at the behest of powerful talent agencies, not a sudden respect for free speech.
  • "He was reinstated because the giant talent agencies in Los Angeles told the CEO of Disney, Bob Iger, you put Kimmel back or we’re not going to do business with you anymore." (A, 21:54)

8. The High Costs of Truth-Telling

• [23:24] Michaels reveals being dropped from representation after speaking truthfully about history, sharing, “If you had any idea how much trying to do the right thing, trying to tell the truth... has cost...”

9. Race, Demonization, and the Threat of Backlash

• [25:16] O’Reilly, in a moment of irony, agrees with Clinton’s generalization about “bad white men” but points out they all run Hollywood.
• Both discuss the escalation of race-baiting rhetoric by politicians and media, its divisive impact, and how it sows the seeds of true racism.

10. Misinformation, Media Failures, and the Education Deficit

• [31:50] Both hosts bemoan misinformation rampant across both legacy and new media.
• O’Reilly insists the solution is improving education, noting young people lack basic civic knowledge and are vulnerable to manipulation.
  • “So you gotta kinda ramp up the information flow in public schools and private to the children so they understand the world because they don’t now.” (A, 33:28)

11. The Faces of Evil: O’Reilly’s Book

• [33:57] Most evil historical figure? O’Reilly names Mao Zedong, who killed 20 million Chinese citizens, then highlights Hitler, Khomeini, Genghis Khan, and their enduring legacies.
  • “Mao Zedong was the worst mass murderer who’s ever been on the planet... There’s nobody that comes close.” (A, 33:57)

12. Dealing With Modern Autocrats: O’Reilly’s Trip to Beijing

• [37:04] O’Reilly recounts being invited by the CCP to share insight on U.S.-China tensions, advocating for a peace and economic partnership and debriefing former President Trump afterward.
  • “I put forth to them that there was a real chance that the United States and China could enter into what I call a partnership for peace and prosperity together.” (A, 38:22)

13. O’Reilly on Public Service

• [39:21] Despite experience advising presidents, O’Reilly rules out running for office, citing a dislike for political games and preference for his current work.

Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “Now we’re in a different cycle of hatred because it’s just one man that’s generating the hatred and that’s Donald Trump.” (O’Reilly, 03:39)
• “Newsom’s saying, I can do that, but I’ll just do it on the other end. I’ll say, these are fascists Gestapo, and I’m going to get rid of them, and I’m going to heighten up the rhetoric just like Trump did.” (O’Reilly, 06:34)
• “Social media... the key to this. So back in the Vietnam days... there wasn’t a central meeting place for the loons. Okay. Now there is.” (O’Reilly, 07:30)
• “Evil needs two things... it needs good people to not pay attention, to be apathetic... and it needs gullible, maybe dumb people to sign on.” (O’Reilly, 16:53)
• “I’m not going to let the bastards get me down. So I pop right up and I’m stronger now than I ever have been.” (O’Reilly, 20:47)
• “Jimmy Kimmel was reinstated because the giant talent agencies... told the CEO of Disney, Bob Iger, you put Kimmel back or we’re not going to do business with you anymore.” (O’Reilly, 21:54)
• “Mao Zedong was the worst mass murderer who’s ever been on the planet... There’s nobody that comes close.” (O’Reilly, 33:57)
• “I presented it to them and they were very polite, very accommodating to us. And, you know, I hope that will happen. It’s possible.” (O’Reilly, 39:13, about speaking to the Chinese Politburo)

Important Timestamps

• 02:34: Comparing today’s division to the Vietnam era.
• 06:07: Political demonization 'playbook', roles of Trump and Newsom.
• 08:24: Radicalization via social media.
• 10:21: Propaganda in historical and modern regimes.
• 13:49: Failure of education; civic ignorance and its consequences.
• 16:32: Dilemma of intervention vs. letting cities 'learn the hard way'.
• 19:25: Saul Alinsky, “Rules for Radicals”, destruction of dissenters.
• 21:54: Jimmy Kimmel story—power brokers in entertainment.
• 25:16: The dangers of racialized rhetoric.
• 31:50: The challenge of misinformation and need for better education.
• 33:57: History’s worst villains, with a focus on Mao Zedong.
• 37:04: O’Reilly’s CCP trip and proposal for U.S.–China partnership.
• 39:21: On refusing to enter politics.

Tone and Language

• Candid, combative, occasionally humorous (“I’m the same, Gillian, and that’s just a tragedy for everybody.” – O’Reilly, 01:38)
• Deeply skeptical of establishment media, political leadership, and institutional motives
• Historically anchored yet highly contemporary in focus

For Further Engagement

• Book: “Confronting Evil” by Bill O’Reilly
• Website: billoreilly.com for columns, news show access, and premium membership
• YouTube: youtube.com/billoreilly

Takeaway:
This conversation serves as a sobering reflection on the dangerous cycles of demonization, ignorance, and unchecked propaganda shaking America. O’Reilly laments history’s lessons not being taught, warns of the small but potent 'evil' fringe empowered by apathy, and reaffirms his commitment to independent, fact-driven journalism. The episode provides both historical perspective and urgent warning about what happens when truth is manipulated—or ignored.