Trump’s Tariffs Explained, Miranda Devine Dissects Mamdani Voters, Nancy Pelosi’s Future, & Medicaid Spending Under Review

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Episode Title: Trump’s Tariffs Explained, Miranda Devine Dissects Mamdani Voters, Nancy Pelosi’s Future, & Medicaid Spending Under Review
Date: November 5, 2025
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Guest: Miranda Devine (New York Post)

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Episode Overview

This episode covers several major topics at the intersection of U.S. politics and policy: President Trump’s aggressive use of tariffs and the ongoing Supreme Court case related to them; the New York City mayoral race—with a deep-dive on likely winner Zohran Mamdani and analysis from Miranda Devine; Nancy Pelosi’s retirement announcement; the recent passing of Dick Cheney; Medicaid spending allegations; and contemporary public opinions on the U.S.'s direction. Bill O’Reilly delivers his signature “no spin” analysis—with skepticism toward both mainstream media and left-wing narratives, and a focus on how political developments affect everyday Americans.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Trump’s Tariffs and the Supreme Court Challenge

(00:00–13:15)

• Tariffs Framed as National Security:
  O’Reilly criticizes media coverage for ignoring the national security rationale behind Trump’s tariffs: “If you have a country that is declining economically, that is a threat to your security.” (00:50)
• Trade Deficit Breakdown:
  • O’Reilly presents numbers showing the U.S. trade deficit swelling during Biden’s term (peaking near $1 trillion), arguing these deficits empower adversaries like China and Iran.
  • Trump’s tariffs, in O’Reilly’s view, are “the only way he can stop it”—charging other countries for access to U.S. markets (03:00–05:30).
• Why America Gets 'Screwed':
  O’Reilly highlights the disparities in auto trade—Americans buy plenty of foreign cars, but U.S. cars are scarce overseas: “I saw 10 American cars in [Japan, China, Korea].” (06:15)
• Legal Foundation: The Trade Act of 1974:
  O’Reilly details the act’s sections giving presidents tariff authority, stating, “The Supreme Court cannot rule that unconstitutional … but it can limit certain parts of it, which it will.” (08:00)
• Predicted Supreme Court Outcome:
  He’s confident Trump will prevail: “It’s almost impossible for me to believe that the Supreme Court will say to Trump, no, you can’t have your tariffs. Thank God. Because if that ever happened, there would be a severe recession in this country.” (09:38)

Notable Quote (O’Reilly, on tariffs):

“So Trump gets back in, goes, I got to stop this. The only way he can stop it is to charge other countries a fee, a tariff to do business here. Because the United States consumer buys more stuff than anyone on earth by far.” (05:00)

Trump Soundbite (from Norah O’Donnell interview):

“I think our country will be immeasurably hurt. I think our economy will go to hell. Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had … I think it's the most important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in 100 years.” (Trump, 10:28)

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2. New York City Mayoral Race & Miranda Devine Interview

(13:15–24:17)

• Mamdani’s “Communist” Credentials:
  O’Reilly labels candidate Zohran Mamdani a “communist,” pointing to 2021 comments about “seizing the means of production” and supporting BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions against Israel). (12:32–14:40)

• What Will Happen to NYC?
  Miranda Devine describes “surviving” under former mayor de Blasio and predicts that if Mamdani wins, New York “will go south slowly”—with impacts on policing, crime, and urban quality of life (15:56–17:53).

• Collapse of Policing and Services:
  O’Reilly warns of “a frightening rise of street crime” and the hollowing out of police force morale and effectiveness under Mamdani, predicting “the poor… people who are voting for Mandani are going to get it the worst.” (18:30–18:50)

• Who’s Voting for Mamdani—And Why?
  Devine analyzes the coalition:

  • Muslim voters, especially mobilized through identity politics and mosque outreach.
  • Young people, “brainwashed” by left-wing universities and angry at party establishment.
  • "Race-rich liberal elite,” including some “crazy” progressive Jewish voters.

  “He's got the Muslim vote locked up … And then you've got young people. And I mean, in a way I can forgive them for their stupidity because, you know, they haven't been taught any history … They've been priced out. They have this Pied Piper. Mamdani comes along … There’s no way he can fulfill any of [his promises].” (Devine, 20:14–21:50)

• Trump Derangement as a Factor:
  There’s a “strong anti-Trump” motivation, especially among wealthy liberal boomers and Manhattan’s “Trump-deranged” majority (23:23–24:08).

Notable Quote (Devine):

“You know, he's got the Muslim vote locked up … and then you've got young people. And I mean, in a way I can forgive them for their stupidity because, you know, they haven't been taught any history.” (20:14)

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3. Other Political Updates

(24:17–32:00)

• NYC Crime Stats:
  O’Reilly reports that shootings are down “because Commissioner Tisch … has reorganized the violent neighborhood patrolling,” but warns improvements may reverse under new leadership (24:18–25:20).
• National Mood Polls:
  • Only 64% say “proud to be American.”
  • 54% think quality of life is worse than five years ago.
  • 62% believe the “state of the world” is worse.
• Nancy Pelosi’s Retirement:
  O’Reilly expresses little sympathy, lampooning her longevity as power-seeking and referencing her stock trading for comic effect (26:00–27:30).
  • Pelosi Soundbite: “He’s just a vile creature. The worst thing on the face of the earth.” (Pelosi on Trump, 28:09)
• Dick Cheney Obituary:
  O’Reilly gives a concise summary of Cheney’s career, lauding him as “a patriot” but sharply criticizing his Iraq war legacy: “You can't force [democracy] upon them. And that was a big historical mistake.” (28:30–29:30)

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4. Medicaid Spending and Illegal Immigration

(29:40–30:56)

• Federal Review:
  O’Reilly reports $1 billion in Medicaid funds improperly went to illegal immigrants, despite federal prohibitions. He calls out blue states (CA, CO, WA, IL, OR) and criticizes the Democratic narrative denying such expenditures.
• Accountability Doubts:
  “They’re never going to get the money back from the states.” (30:50)

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Memorable Quotes

• O’Reilly (on trade):

  “Take a ride on any US Highway. Toyota, hello, Mercedes all over the place. In fact, the United States sells only 5% of the cars that the Chinese people drive. … That’s how we’re getting screwed.” (06:15)

• O’Reilly (on Mamdani):

  “Seizing by force. Because regular folks like me are not going to give you my house. So you have to take it. And guys with guns would have to come. That’s communism. … This is what this guy Mamdani is quoting.” (14:55)

• Devine (on young voters):

  “In a way I can forgive them for their stupidity because, you know, they haven’t been taught any history. … They look at Washington D.C. they were lied to about Joe Biden. … They have this Pied Piper.” (20:20)

• O’Reilly (on police exodus):

  “[The] police that are going to stay, many of them will leave, are going to be reactive. They’re not going to be aggressive. … And you can sue the cops if you’re a thug or anybody. Who’s going to do that? No one.” (18:00)

• O’Reilly (on Pelosi):

  “… country’s much better if she just packs it. And then you can see the reason that she stayed on so long is that then she couldn’t make as much money in the stock market with the insider stuff. So now she has a trade like everybody else. That’s a cheap shot. No, it isn’t.” (27:40)

• Pelosi (on Trump):

  “He’s just a vile creature. The worst thing on the face of the earth. … That enables hatred and division.” (28:09)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:00–10:22 — Tariffs, trade deficit, Trump’s philosophy
• 10:22–13:15 — Trump Supreme Court case & interview soundbite
• 13:15–15:56 — NYC mayoral race overview, Mamdani background
• 15:56–24:17 — Miranda Devine interview: city prognosis, voter analysis
• 24:17–26:00 — Crime stats, city recovery under Commissioner Tisch
• 26:00–29:30 — Polls: National mood, Pelosi retirement, Cheney obituary
• 29:40–30:56 — Medicaid spending, illegal immigration controversy
• 30:56–End — Closing remarks and preview of next day’s analysis

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Tone and Style

Bill O’Reilly’s signature, candid, and skeptical commentary dominates, mixing policy data, personal stories, and confrontational rhetoric toward political opponents. Miranda Devine provides on-the-ground context with a critical eye on progressive politics in NYC.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode is a deep-dive into the economic and political issues dominating headlines: Bill O’Reilly breaks down why Trump’s tariffs are both legally justified and vital for national security, debunks media narratives, and explains the stakes of the Supreme Court challenge. In New York City, the likely election of Zohran Mamdani as mayor is analyzed as a potential disaster, with guest Miranda Devine offering a frank appraisal of the city’s future and the varied motivations behind Mamdani’s voter base. The episode closes with critical updates on Nancy Pelosi’s retirement, the death of Dick Cheney, and the contentious issue of Medicaid funds for illegal immigrants—all presented in O’Reilly’s trademark “No Spin” style.

Transcript

[A]

Foreign here. Welcome to the no Spin News. November 4, 2025 Election Day. Stand up for your country. Those who are voting today are standing up for their country. It's pretty easy. My polling place out on Long island, pretty quiet. We're not involved directly with the New York City vote. I understand it was bedlam in the city. Maybe it's not going to break a record for mayoral turnout, but it's going to be more than the recent past, that's for sure. And we'll get into that a little bit because of the communist aspect to it, which is engaging the whole country. And tomorrow we'll analyze the results. It's not a lot and it's not going to be a big lookout. You'll get that phony stuff on cable TV news. Oh, this is a harbinger of the midterms. That's a bunch of BS because so many things are going to change in the next 11 months. It's going to be guaranteed to be startling because President Trump is moving so quickly on so many fronts and the courts have to issue rulings. And we're going to get into the most important ruling on the tariffs in the Talking Points memo right now. So the tariffs is a national security situation. It has not been portrayed that way by the corrupt media, but it is if you have a country that is declining economically, that is a threat to your security. So Germany, for example, is in bad, bad shape economically because of its woke posture and quasi socialism. The United States is fairly strong, stronger than Russia and China, our adversaries. But if we were to have a recession here and that, remember, led to the election of Barack Obama, then we would be weakened. So President Trump is determined not to let that happen. And he has instituted these tariffs to stop the federal trade deficit. Now, when I say those words, federal trade deficit, I know you're either going to change the channel or your eyes are glazing over. And if you're older, you may have passed out already. I know how boring this is. I am going to make it. I can't promise it'll be exciting, but it won't be boring. So a trade deficit is when the United States sends more money, corporate money out than it takes in. And the deficits for us over the past 10 years have been astronomical. So here are the numbers. Beginning in 2017, this is Trump, $552 billion deficit. 621. Next year. 617. 679. Okay, so Trump, in his first term, ran big trade deficits, but nothing like Biden. Biden comes in first year, 8, 6, 1. Second year, almost a trillion dollars. 945, then 773, then 918 in his last year. Why he didn't pay attention. Biden could not care less. He wasn't even able to assess those kinds of numbers. But massive amounts of money were going out of the country to our enemies. To our enemies. Biden sent billions to Iran by unfreezing their money. And China was, was rolling in dollars. So Trump gets back in, goes, I got to stop this. The only way he can stop it is to charge other countries a fee, a tariff to do business here. Because the United States consumer buys more stuff than anyone on earth by far. Because we got more assets, we have more money. You socialists and communists. We're a consumer based economy. That means we buy companies, prosper. China is not consumer based. Nobody has any money there. They're export based. So their money comes from shipping stuff. Here we buy it and the money goes back to China and then they hire another million soldiers. We all understanding. I don't think that was boring. I hope it wasn't. All right, so there. That's Trump's philosophy. In addition, this year the US treasury will receive about a half trillion dollars in tariff money. That'll go right into the treasury now. I wish. And if I get to interview Donald Trump, that'll be one of my first questions. Where is that money going to go, Mr. President? What are you going to do with that money? We still have a big trade deficit. Where's it going? Rainy day fund you're going to invest? Or what is going on with the half trillion that you've raised with the tariffs? We the people have a right to know that. I don't know it. Nobody's told me. Nobody will say anything. That's not right. Okay, now examples of how we get screwed in the trade deficit. So, as you know, in May, I was in Japan, China and Korea. I saw maybe, and I was around, I was moving around maybe. I saw 10American cars in the three countries. 10. No American cars on the road or trucks or vehicles or anything. None. That's how we're getting screwed. Take a ride on any US Highway. Toyota, hello, Mercedes all over the place. All right. In fact, the United states sells only 5% of the cars that the Chinese people 1.5 billion drive. And those are probably Chinese American people over there. 5%. Okay. Japan last year bought 17,000 U.S. vehicles. That was it. 17,000. They not cooperating by taking our stuff. So therefore Trump slaps them with tariffs. We are getting this. Please, I don't have to do this again. I really don't. Now, Trump administration being sued, okay, by the people who hate Trump, the Democratic Party and all their apparatus, and it's in the Supreme Court. Supreme Court has to rule. Now they got a rule in Trump's favor. I'm going to prove it to you right now. And nobody knows this because, again, it's too boring for the media to even contemplate this. You know what the Trade act of 1974 is? I know you don't, because I didn't until my crack research staff handed it to me. The Trade act of 1974, signed by President Gerald Ford, says there are three sections. 301 allows tariffs in response to unfair trade practices. Okay. Section 201 permits tariffs if a US industry is seriously injured by surging imports. 1, 2, 2. Authorizes temporary tariffs to address significant balance of trade deficits. And it gives power to the president to do all that. Do we. Hello? Okay. Trade act of 1974. Now, the Supreme Court cannot rule that unconstitutional, all right? But it can limit certain parts of it, which it will. But it's going to allow Trump to have a lot of rain slapping terrorists, because the law is already there. If Congress doesn't want the law, pass a new law. Pass a new tariff law. That's what the Supreme Court's going to say. Because the judges, the nine of them, they're not lawmakers. They uphold what's already been put into the system. So it's almost impossible for me to believe that the Supreme Court will say to Trump, no, you can't have your tariffs. Thank God. Because if that ever happened, there would be a severe recession in this country. Now, I'm just going to play you one stupid soundbite from Congressman Jason Crow, Colorado. Okay? Mr. Crow should not be sitting on Capitol Hill. He's not smart enough to be there. Roll the tape. Well, part of the problem with the tariffs is that Donald Trump is largely using tariffs. I'm glad you raised that because he's actually largely using tariffs to enrich himself and his family. Right? They are using the threat of tariffs to strike golf course deals around the world. That's not true. There's not a shred of evidence of that. So the man goes on CNN or msnbc, they're both the same, and lies. And the people in Colorado don't care. But there's no evidence that the tariffs are benefiting the Trump family at all. None. We researched it very thoroughly. Now, Norah O' Donnell, on Sunday, 60 Minutes. She knows kind of what the tariff thing is. She doesn't know. I can guarantee you about the Trade act of 1974, but here's the exchange with President Trump. Go.

[B]

What happens to your economic plan if the Supreme Court invalidates your tariffs?

[A]

I think our country will be immeasurably hurt. I think our economy will go to hell. Look, because of tariffs, we have the highest stock market we've ever had because of tariffs. 401ks at the highest level. That, and this is millions and millions of people, people that we've ever had. 401ks. I think it's the most important subject discussed by the Supreme Court in 100 years. But I can tell you the president's pretty confident he's going to prevail here, all right? And I believe he will as well. So summing up, this is a extremely important story for you and your family, because should the Supreme Court say that rule no tariffs are illegal, president doesn't have power to do that, you'll see the stock market down 5 to 10,000 points and it'll be just Armageddon chaos. And that's a memo. Okay, a couple of polls and we'll get to our guest. Atlas has the New Jersey gubernatorial race a dead heat. I can't predict this stuff. I mean, I just don't pay close enough attention to the states. I don't have time to do it. Mikey Sherrill, Democrat Jack Ciarelli. Looks like Ciattarelli has some kind of momentum here. If I had a bet, I'd bet on him. Virginia, the Democrats gonna win. Spanberger, because the Republican Earl Sears is not a good candidate. So Virginia, it's not even gonna be close. In New York City, Mandami will probably win, but he's a communist, so how do I know that? Because you know all. No, he's not a communist. He is a communist. Now, I was going to run a soundbite, but I'm not going to run it. I'm going to quote it. Okay, so this is Mandani in 2021 at the Young Democratic Socialists of America Conference. Here's what he said. He said right now there's a quote. If we're talking about issues that have groundswell popular support across the country, let's face it, the US Economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver. Theroux, the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax advantage. Gold, Iraq. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered. Thousands of 5 star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. Please call 866-326-5576 or text Bill to 998-899. Again, that's 866-326-5576, or text Bill to 998-899. I usually ask potential criminals to have a seat, but now I'm asking you to join me, Chris Hansen, for my new series, have a Seat with Chris Hansen. Guests each week are fascinating personalities who are grabbing headlines, making waves, or changing our lives for the better. Have a Seat with Chris Hansen. Available wherever you get your podcast. There are issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's bds, okay. BDS is boycott, divestment and sanctions against Israel. Okay. Or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production, unquote. Seizing the means of production. That is a communist tenet. Seizing by force. Because regular folks like me are not going to give you my house. So you have to take it. And guys with guns would have to come. That's communism. That's what happened in China with Mao Zedong, in Russia with Stalin, in Cuba with Castro. If you read Confronting Evil, it's a big part of the book, how these communist totalitarians murdered millions, tens of billions of people to seize the means of production. This is what this guy Mandani is quoting. Yet he may be the next mayor of New York City. Frightening. Yes, it is. Joining us now from the city, Miranda Devine, comments from the New York Post. The post has been 100% against Mamdani from the very beginning. Ms. Devine has a very popular podcast, Pod Force One. She interviewed a lot of the Trump administration, including the president himself. All right, so look, it's all established that you and the newspaper and you hate Mamdani, you don't want him, he's destructive and all of that. There's an old adage that says you hope for the best, but you plan for the worst. You live in New York City, Miranda, have you made any plans or adjustments of what you might do in your life should Mamdani become the mayor?

[B]

Not really. I mean, we've lived through de Blasio when the city visibly went downhill very quickly. And then, of course, the pandemic when it became like the Night of the Living Dead with a whole lot of zombie, drug affected, mentally ill people wandering the streets and a whole lot of inmates released from Rikers Island. And then, of course, we had a whole bunch of illegal migrants placed in hotels all around Midtown. So it's been, you know, pretty willing for the. Well, almost since I arrived here back in early 2019. So I think that we're expecting if Mamdani wins, that things will go south slowly. I mean, already the NYPD is a shadow of its former self. You can just tell from the fact that there are so many women, so many small police officers who just stand around reading their phones. Now, Jessica Tisch, who's the very good NYPD commissioner, after a series of upheavals, Mamdani was forced into saying that he would probably keep her on, which is one, she's not gonna.

[A]

She's not gonna stay.

[B]

Well, he knows that she's going to be his foe in the next election, so I don't think he's gonna want to keep her on anyway. So I'm sure he'll make life miserable for her. And. And, you know, that's the last piece of good news that we have about keeping the NYPD together. And I must say, under Eric Adams, things started to look up on the crime front. But, you know, Mamdani is on record. He's pretending now and that he didn't really mean it or he's changed his mind and.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we know that he doesn't want to prosecute criminals because he believes society is at fault, not them. But you say you haven't made any plans or thought about. So I tell my family members who live in New York City, and I said, look, if this guy comes in, within six months, you're going to have a frightening rise of street crime because the people committing the street crime aren't even going to be arrested. I wouldn't be surprised if the 911 system collapses because there's not enough police now. And the police that are going to stay, many of them will leave, are going to be reactive. They're not going to be aggressive. They're not going to be running out there as fast as they can run out there, because he's going to have civilian review boards that are anti police. And if a cop makes a mistake, all right, defends himself or herself, he's right in front of the board. And you can sue the cops if you're a thug or anybody. Who's going to do that? No one. So I'm telling my family members, look, you're going to go out at night, you're going to have to go out three or four. You can't go out by yourself. That's number one. That's going to happen. Number two is garbage isn't going to be picked up. Union people are just going to go, ah, you know, every bit of efficiency and the city is not efficient. Okay, is going to, is going to go down because this 34 year old, he doesn't have the organizational capacity to keep it up. It's the largest city in the country, eight and a half million people. All right? And you know who's going to get it worse? The poor. The people who are voting for Mandani are going to get it the worst.

[B]

So they're not actually voting for him, they're voting for Cuomo.

[A]

Well, you're going to see they brought.

[B]

Women and young people who are voting for Mamdani.

[A]

You're going to see immigrants, people born overseas. Now 50% of the new York City electorate vote for Mandani. You'll see any exit polling, okay, they're.

[B]

Going to give a million Muslims will. Yes, because he's gone out by that.

[A]

Vote as a New York Post columnist. And your beat is the city. Do you believe that the people voting for Mamdani are stupid? No.

[B]

I'll tell you the way I see it. First of all, he's got the Muslim vote locked up because he's appealed to them specifically on identity grounds. He's gone to, you know, mosques and cuddled up with this radical imam who was, gave character testimony to the blind sheik who was the mastermind of the first World Trade center bombing. He's made, no, he's not even bothered hiding his affinity with radical Islam. So that's number one. And then you've got young people. And I mean, in a way I can forgive them for their stupidity because, you know, they haven't been taught any history. They haven't read your books, they haven't. They've gone to university and been brainwashed. And not only that, as Democrat voters, they have been betrayed. And I don't really blame them for being angry. They look at Washington D.C. they were lied to about Joe Biden. They see a gerontocracy has taken over their party establishment. And so they, that it's just natural for them to feel they've been priced out. They have this Pied piper. Mamdani comes along and says to them, you know, sort of taps into their grievance about the party and says Follow me and I will make your life affordable. And he makes these airy promises. There's no way he can fulfill any of them. But they're angry with the establishment, so they're going to go with a generational part. And then you've got just the crazy race, rich liberal elite, including a lot of Jews, which as someone said, is like chickens voting for kfc. But they, you know, are going to vote. The polls show. We've seen interviews with them, I've talked to them. They love Mamdani and they see him as sort of the antidote to Donald Trump and a reinvigoration of the Democratic Party in the way of the future.

[A]

Do you see? And that's a very good analysis you just gave the rest of the nation that doesn't live here. Do you see an anti Trump vote in the New York mayoral situation?

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[B]

Yes, certainly in that liberal boomer demographic, the wealthy elites, you know, Trump derangement is very strong here in New York and there's a big cohort of conservative voters. And Donald Trump increased his vote last election, and I mean, every county has turned a little red and to the point where Elise Stefanik, who seems to be running for governor, she may have a chance where Lee Zeldin did not. But still the majority, I mean, Manhattan or New York City is something like 70% plus. 70% plus Democrat voters. And I would say, you know, more than half of those are Trump deranged.

[A]

Yeah. And the younger ones, of course. All right, Miranda, thank you very much. Nice segment. We appreciate you taking the time. Hope we can talk again soon.

[B]

Thanks, Bill.

[A]

Okay, as Miranda referenced the shooting victims in New York City, that's really the crime stat you want to zero in on, because the other crime stats are bogus that they're giving you. But victim is a victim. You're shot. That gets recorded. So they're down pretty big in New York. And the reason they are is because Commissioner Tisch, who I don't believe is going to continue if Mandani is the new mayor, has reorganized the violent neighborhood patrolling. So you flood the zone. All right, that's what Trump did in D.C. with the Guard and the U.S. marshals and the FBI. There are just certain neighborhoods where all the violence takes place where. Where you just flood the zone with law enforcement and boom, the victims are going to go down. Chicago can't figure that out, doesn't care. All right, and that's why you don't have much relief there. But in New York City, crime victims are down this year fairly big. All right, mood of the nation again. What happens today, and we will have our analysis tomorrow, is not going to influence the midterms at all. Once you hear that, just change the channel. Come on over to BillOriley.com and get the truth. All right, this is Politico poll. First question, when it comes, which comes closest to your view? I'm proud to be an American. 64%. Shame to be an American. 36. A high number. I think Trump drives that a little bit on the left. Would you say the following are better or worse than they were five years ago? Political polarization, better. 16. About the same. 26. Worse. 59. It is obviously worse than it was okay five years ago. I don't know, but it's worse. Quality of life in America is better now. 24. About the same. 23. Worse. 54. That is high prices. Okay. My local deli raised their price again. They want 14 bucks for a ham and cheese sandwich. Not going to do it. I'll make my own ham and cheese sandwich. I can afford 18 ham and cheese sandwiches, but that's. I'm not going to do it. 14 bucks. Maybe four slices of ham and some Munster cheese and mustard on a roll. Come on. And if everybody like me, then the prices have to come down. Final question. State of the world. Okay, better. 20%. About the same. 18 were 62. So kind of a grim poll. Nancy Pelosi. It's not going to run again. She's 85. Hanging it up so I can hear the applause coast to coast now. I met her once in the White House. I said, hey, Madam Speaker, I gotta get you on the O'Reilly fact. Oh, I'd love to do it. I thought her husband was gonna collapse. I don't think she knew who I was. I swear to God. And then I sent Waters to a press conference when she wouldn't do it. The interview. And. And he goes, you said to Bill O'Reilly face to face, the why is you do the interview? And Pelosi goes, you know, so anyway, we don't. We've never had a lot of respect for her. So here's what she said on Monday about Donald Trump. Go.

[B]

Our founders did not want to have. Again.

[A]

How can I say this? It'll sound like I'm awful about Trump because he's just a vile creature. The worst thing on the face of the earth. No, that's nice. That enables hatred division. You know, she didn't care. Why she care? She's playing to her San Francisco district. Doesn't care if she incites anything. Boy, anyway, the country's much better if she just packs it. And then you can see the reason that she stayed on so long is that then she couldn't make as much money in the stock market with the insider stuff. So now she has a trade like everybody else. That's a cheap shot. No, it isn't. Dick Cheney, dead at age 84. Never interviewed him. He despised the press. Very rarely would he give an interview. Knew him, but boy, did he hate all The Press. Born 1941, N.E. went to Yale. Then he got a grad degree at University of Wisconsin. Became the congressperson from Wyoming. Six terms. He was the youngest White House chief of staff under Gerald Ford. That's before he went to Congress. He was very, very smart, obviously. 89 to 93, defense secretary under Bush got us into Iraq. Dick Cheney did. Didn't know how to get us out. 2001 to 2009, VP under Bush. I'm sorry, the 89 to 93 was under Bush the elder. Okay. He got us into Iraq under Bush the younger. The problem with Dick Cheney was that he saw life in black and white. This is my analysis. And then when complicated things would come up, like he was a true believer that the Iraqi people wanted independence. They wanted to be free. And Rumsfeld felt the same way. And they talked Bush the younger into it. They go, no, no, no, they'll embrace democracy. There was never a shot at that. The Iraqi people don't want democracy. Neither do the Afghan people, neither do the Persians. They don't want it. They don't value it. You can't force it upon them. And that was A big historical mistake. Anyway, Dick Cheney was a patriot. And again dead at age 84. Shut down day 35. Delay flight delays yesterday, nearly 5,000 cancellations. 84. Another vote today failed. Okay. Senate voted 11:30am Nobody will move 35 days. Okay? More than 3 million Americans have been affected by air delays. I got to fly out tomorrow. I'm just praying that I get out there to LA Trump administration. So this is a very, very interesting story. There is an organization called the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid, okay? It comes under the Department of Health and Human services. Bobby Kennedy Jr. All right. They say that $1 billion with a B has been given to illegal aliens for health care primarily by red blue states, okay? The chief offenders, California, Colorado, Washington state, Illinois and Oregon, okay, have misused more than 1.3 billion and now the federal government wants that money back. Now you know, the Democratic Party denies that any federal or Medicaid money because that's federal. Match the states on Medicaid goes to undocumented people. Roll it. Undocumented immigrants do not get federal health insurance premiums, period. Period. They're lying. This is a common lie that Republicans have been repeating that this shutdown is about Democrats trying to provide health care to the undocumented. Now federal law clearly prohibits the expenditure of taxpayer dollars to provide health care to undocumented immigrants. Well, now it's, we have the proof that the states are basically given the finger to the federal law and nobody's doing anything about it. Okay? That's it. And those people know that they gain the system. Now how are they going to get the money back from the states? It's not clear. Bobby Kennedy Jr. Has got to come up with some. They're never going to get the money back from the states. All right, final thought in a moment. Okay, Final thought. I'll be busy all night. I'm busy all day. I need a nap. News Nation now, depending on how much Cuomo blow V8 off the top of the show, I'll be on the lead guest at 8:00'. Clock. Okay. Then I'm going over to WABC radio, our flagship 9:30 with Rita Cosby. The results will be in on WABC Radio. You can listen to it anywhere in the world. Just punch up WABC Radio Live. Boom. You can listen. That's the technology. So I'll be there at 9:30, News Nation at 8. And then tomorrow we'll have analysis of what happens today. Thank you very much for watching and listening this evening. I'm Bill O'Reilly. We will see you on Wednesday.