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Stephen Baldwin
And I start screaming and I, you know, start acting like a lunatic. Hollywood to me has always just been a bunch of bs.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, give Jesus credit for everything you've ever done.
Stephen Baldwin
I was a real pain in the ass.
Bill O'Reilly
You had to have attitude chutzpah.
Stephen Baldwin
Bill, you're gonna get me in trouble.
Bill O'Reilly
Cheap shot. Sorry.
Stephen Baldwin
No. Yes. I just, I had it coming.
Bill O'Reilly
Hey, Bill O'Reilly here. Welcome to We'll Do It Live, our long form podcast. You can see us pretty much every night on Billow Reilly.com's no Spin News, which is a regular broadcast. We do this now once a week because it's been successful. And today we have a very interesting guest, Stephen Baldwin, part of the Baldwin boys. Mr. Baldwin grew up near where I grew up on Long island, and it was a rambunctious home. Father's a teacher. He's got brothers, Alex, Daniel, Billy, I know them all. And here he is. Thank you for coming in. Very nice of you. I know how busy you are. We'll talk about your podcast. One Bad movie in a little while. But I want to get to this number that came in this week. 37% of Americans say that they have lost a friend or a romantic partner or even a family member they don't talk to anymore because of politics.
Stephen Baldwin
Right.
Bill O'Reilly
And you guys are divided. The Baldwin brothers are divided. You got Billy and Alec, pretty liberal guys. And you and Daniel, fairly traditional guys. I think that's fairly accurate.
Stephen Baldwin
Sure.
Bill O'Reilly
Has that bled over into brawls or spaghetti fights?
Stephen Baldwin
No, there hasn't been one of those amongst us in a long time. I am officially Bill, so, you know, I'm retired from politics. Stephen Baldman's out. I host one bad movie podcast now, and I'm getting back in the business of just doing some content creation, hopefully following in the footsteps of somebody like yourself, sir.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, I wish you the best with it.
Stephen Baldwin
Thank you.
Bill O'Reilly
And you know, it gets to the point sometimes where you have to retire or at least take a break from the political stuff because it just wears you down. But I know Daniel hasn't retired because he tackled me at the Joe Namath benefit in Florida about two weeks ago screaming about some Trump thing.
Stephen Baldwin
He's a big guy. You recovered quickly.
Bill O'Reilly
I did. I gave him a faint like this. And then Alec, every time he sees me, throws things at me. So he has not retired. But the family dynamic growing up or when you guys were younger guys, now you're middle aged and you're getting into icon territory. Did that ever come into play?
Stephen Baldwin
Oh, yeah. One time my mom got in between Alec and Danny and her dentures went flying. I'll encapsulate that story for you. Your mom? Yeah, my mom. Carol Baldwin, the legend. There was the four boys and my two sisters. And certainly I was the youngest. I was number six. So I was the one that broke the Brady Bunch possible tie. When Stephen was born, it was four boys, two girls. And my dad was like, you know, football coach, mass people, high school history teacher, et cetera, et cetera. I was a real pain in the ass growing up. I was the most rambunctious, but not the most, you know, kind of diabolical. Daniel was the most diabolical, which is why he plotting, which is why he's tackling you now.
Bill O'Reilly
Right?
Stephen Baldwin
But Billy and Danny would give me a whooping on occasion. And Alec was pretty good at protecting. He was my Vito Corleone.
Bill O'Reilly
How much older is he than you? Nine. So he's 69. You're 60, right? And he protect you. Good for him.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, he looked out for me pretty good. He looked down, but that's only because one time my mom puts down a gauntlet. Anybody gives the middle finger again, you're punished for a week. No more middle finger. I don't care what happened. If it's a sporting event, anything, whatever. You know this. Okay, Ma. You know, the next day, Billy comes up to me, smacks me around a little bit. I give him the middle finger. He starts chasing me. I run behind my mom, she goes like this. He says, you just said yesterday. One week he's punished. That's it. He's not going out of the house. He just gave me the middle finger. And my mother goes, well, what else is he supposed to do to defend himself?
Bill O'Reilly
The poor little. Oh, your mom turned on you?
Stephen Baldwin
No, she protected me. Oh, she protected, protected me. She said, he's the little baby.
Bill O'Reilly
Oh, I got it. I thought, okay, now you got four guys who are very flamboyant, talented, all actors, I would say your oldest brother, Alec is, is an activist. And then on 9 11, because I had you on a factor. I don't know what you remember.
Stephen Baldwin
I do remember. I mentioned it.
Bill O'Reilly
Yu cha. Not only your politics but your religious point of view, sure. All of that happened after the World Trade center got attacked.
Stephen Baldwin
Correct.
Bill O'Reilly
Did that cause any familial problems?
Stephen Baldwin
Not. Not really. Family. Family. You know, we kind of always were raised. My dad was a real, you know, kind of universal kind of guy in that sense. You know, respect everybody, do unto others. You know, my dad was pretty regular Joe Irish.
Bill O'Reilly
Was he. Was he. Was he conservative or liberal? Your father?
Stephen Baldwin
He was Democrat. Liberal, but with very traditional values.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, right.
Stephen Baldwin
So that said, my becoming born again, kind of getting out of Hollywood for quite some time, which I'm now getting back into with the podcast and some stuff, it's led to division, so to speak, because of political reasons and geographical. And I'm not blowing smoke in as much as nothing too bad outside the normal family crap, you know what I mean? But when my mom passed, you know, some stuff happened behind the scenes. You know, people were a little disgruntled and, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But listen, I don't think there's anything too dramatic happening if you had dinner
Bill O'Reilly
tonight with the three guys. Cordial,
Stephen Baldwin
Probably. Yeah. Yes.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah. But we haven't been spending much time together.
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Stephen Baldwin
Yeah. Location. Everybody's in different states now, you know, I'm two hours north, Bill. I'm a farmer up north, upstate New York.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, Alex still in the Hamptons, I
Stephen Baldwin
think he's in the Hamptons and Vermont and he's working like a dog because he's got all those kids.
Bill O'Reilly
I know he's got 19 kids or something. Right. How can you keep track?
Stephen Baldwin
I don't know.
Bill O'Reilly
I always had an affection for him. And as he came on the Factor, too, I remember he was sweating a lot. And I said, look, I'm not going to lay you out here. I'm just going to try to understand where you're coming from. Because he was up there with De Niro at one time. He has backed away from that. Is that a philosophy did you fall for? Except for Daniel, say, you know, maybe we shouldn't go down this road and let's quiet it out on the politic front.
Stephen Baldwin
Well, I think it's that plus, know,
Bill O'Reilly
as you get older, okay, you know,
Stephen Baldwin
time, energy, you know, your own personal, you know, prioritization, you know, what, what, what you prioritize to be the things you want to spend your time doing.
Bill O'Reilly
Are you still born again?
Stephen Baldwin
Absolutely.
Bill O'Reilly
What does that mean? What does that mean now?
Stephen Baldwin
Okay, so Nicodemus. Nicodemus, he was kind of like the Elon Musk of his time. He decides, look, I've been hearing about this guy Jesus too long. They're saying he's doing this. Somebody said the fishes kept coming out of the thing, right? So he goes and sees him at night and Jesus says to him, the people have said that following me and knowing what it is to have salvation is all these other things. He goes, it's as simple as just knowing what it is to be born again. And Nicodemus says, well, what do you mean? I already came out of my mom, I can't come out of my mom again. And he goes, right, but that means in the spirit of your heart, because that physical part can't have it. That's the recommitment, that is the one on one between you and Jesus. Relationship and surrender, that is being born again. So when somebody says, what denomination are you? I say, I'm non denominational. But in the Bible it doesn't say Catholic, Protestant.
Bill O'Reilly
It says there wasn't Catholic yet. So you got to go through Jesus if you want to reach paradise. That's what I took the Nicodemus story to be.
Stephen Baldwin
Right. If you want to know eternal life connected to the Almighty of the Father, Our Father in heaven, one must be born again through right, salvation in Jesus Christ and with Jesus.
Bill O'Reilly
And nobody in your family objected to that?
Stephen Baldwin
Well, no, because my mom Carol up there in Syracuse, her sister that we spent a lot of time with at family reunions and just growing up. Whenever we went to visit folks up in Syracuse. After we moved down to Long island, my dad became a teacher down Long Island. We were all born down here, but three decades we go up to Syracuse for events and my Aunt Louise was the almost like the SNL character, you know, like Satan, you know, what's his name?
Bill O'Reilly
My church lady.
Stephen Baldwin
My Aunt Louise was basically a church lady.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay. Did that coincide with you becoming a traditional political thinker or had you done that before?
Stephen Baldwin
No, I think I had never been political until after I was born again and kind of entered into politics just in the Republican Party as a conservative in my understanding, which you gotta walk that walk a little bit before you understand what these things really are in the inner workings of parties, you know, so all of that said I supported Republican people for really went to a lot of the conservative stuff because most of my constituency and the six degrees of Kevin Bacon of my political experience was through Christian folks. I was brought in. A friend of mine said, let's go to the prayer breakfast. And he was a Christian guy with a charity. So I was connected with More that was your crew. That was more the faith based thing. Yeah.
Bill O'Reilly
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Bill O'Reilly
before we get to the one bad movie thing, because I am interested in. In Hollywood, to some degree there was and I. I need you to straighten this out for me. We don't invite anybody on this long form that we feel isn't going to tell the truth because I don't want to have to beat the hell out of you. Not physically, but let's have a nice conversation. In 1989, did a movie called Casualties of War.
Stephen Baldwin
Yes, sir.
Bill O'Reilly
Brian De Palma was the director, big director. And you left the movie. And there were all kinds of stories about you, Sean Penn and Michael J. Fox.
Stephen Baldwin
Right.
Bill O'Reilly
You want to clean that up for me?
Stephen Baldwin
Okay, before I forget, I'd like you to be on my show. One bad movie and this, you're going to love this dovetail right now because I'm setting up some episodes for New York and my first guest is Michael J. Fox when I do the New York show.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, good.
Stephen Baldwin
So now it's going to be Michael J. Fox and you, if you're available, sir. So, yeah, listen, listen, listen. Can I. Do you want to hear the whole thing?
Bill O'Reilly
No, I want to hear why you left the movie.
Stephen Baldwin
I left the movie because Sean Penn was my idol. And when I auditioned, I auditioned thinking, wow, what a shot I got here.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, right.
Stephen Baldwin
Wow, what an opportunity. Coley, well, more than
Bill O'Reilly
me too.
Stephen Baldwin
But he's done, you know, Carlito's way And some other legendary stuff. So. So I. I get this opportunity to go read for Art Linson, the legendary producer with De Palma. I read for Art Linson. I'm doing stuff in the script with the character that's not there. I added, like, a stutter, and I did some weird stuff. And just. This is the carrots. Forgive me. This is the character I came up with. I read for Lynson. He goes, it's not what's on the page. Why are you doing it like that? I said, it's just what came to my mind. He goes, great. Can you go in two hours and meet depalma? It's all in Manhattan. I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. I go, I'm going to see Brian De Palma. I go see depalma at his house. Upper west side, blah, blah, blah. I sit down, I do the audition. He goes, that's not in the script. Why are you doing it that way? This is the character. This is what I came up with. He goes, great. Sean Penna's final approval of the casting. Can you meet him in two hours at this restaurant on the Upper west side? It's all happening. At swearing in eight hours. I go see Pen. We're at that. That white rocking horse on the Upper west side. Some fancy place. And we're in this back little booth, and he's smoking in the restaurant. I'll never forget. I couldn't believe he was smoking in the restaurant. So he sits down. He goes, okay, when we get there, I'm the sergeant. You're this. This is how it's going to go. But you can't talk to Fox. When we get to Phuket, Thailand, with the Palma and everybody, big movie. You got to just shut your mouth and do what I tell you. And I'm telling you, you speak to Fox once, your ass is crazy.
Bill O'Reilly
Why didn't he want you to talk to Martin?
Stephen Baldwin
Because it was a method thing he
Bill O'Reilly
was doing that nobody talks to each other.
Stephen Baldwin
Penn wanted absolute control in the wrath of his leadership as the sergeant in
Bill O'Reilly
this story, in the platoon. Right?
Stephen Baldwin
Right. So he turns around and, you know, I am my father's son here, Bill. You know, you tell me not to do something, right?
Bill O'Reilly
You gotta do it.
Stephen Baldwin
So I get over there, and Fox is one of my heroes, too. I mean, what am I. I'm not gonna piss on Michael Fox or disrespect, you know, in some kind of a method actor way, because this guy's telling me this now. Long story short, we were, like, two weeks into filming And Penn comes up to me during a lunch break, and he says to me, you know, everything all right? Everything good. But he knows I've been hanging like I've been rapping, you know. The word got back to him with Fox. Yeah, yeah. And he just turns around and he says to me, you know, okay, okay. As long as you're following my orders. The next morning. Mr. Baldwin, Mr. Linson would like you to see you before you. Before you head to the set. Now, it's Thailand, so I get in the car, I go to his office. Now, you're gonna love this one, Bill. I walk in. He goes, stephen, this is the hardest part of a producer's job. I said, art, we're already filming for two. Two weeks. There's no way you're getting rid of me. He goes, we're sending you home. I said, do I get paid? He goes, absolutely. I said, well, let me go get my stuff, and I'll just swing by the set and say goodbye to the guys. He goes, your room's already been packed, and your belongings will meet you at the airport. You're going to go, dude. Forgive me, sir. Mr. O'Reilly, these guys demonstrated for me in. In that very extreme Hollywood way what it's like to get replaced within the system.
Bill O'Reilly
Were you angry at Pen?
Stephen Baldwin
No, not now. I'm just turned 16 back then, for sure. I was furious.
Bill O'Reilly
Back to the Future, like Michael J. Fox. You're in a car, right? Were you mad?
Stephen Baldwin
List. Michael J. Fox makes a good joke. He says he's happy about Eric Stoltz because Eric Stoltz was supposed to actually do Back to the Future. It didn't work out. Michael J. Fox took his part.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay.
Stephen Baldwin
John C. Reilly. Ever hear of him?
Bill O'Reilly
Sure.
Stephen Baldwin
He replaced me in that movie.
Bill O'Reilly
In the movie. He would have been better, though.
Stephen Baldwin
He. Well, listen, John C. Reilly's a good actor, a talented guy.
Bill O'Reilly
Right, but you were mad. You were mad at Penn pulling Rank.
Stephen Baldwin
Well, only because, you know, I. It was a dream. It was a. It was the biggest. It was the biggest jump in my career as far as. If I had remained in the movie. Who knows, right? Yeah.
Bill O'Reilly
I don't know Penn very well, but I. A couple of times, and he would. He wouldn't mess with me. He would be foolish, too. But I asked Clint Eastwood about him.
Stephen Baldwin
Oh, really?
Bill O'Reilly
Because. And this might be something for your podcast. They did a movie, Mystic River.
Stephen Baldwin
Yes, of course.
Bill O'Reilly
Up in Boston.
Stephen Baldwin
Brilliant film.
Bill O'Reilly
Right? And Penn is edgy guy. Edgy. Okay. You say smoking in the. In the restaurant. It's not all he's doing in a restaurant.
Stephen Baldwin
But that was 30 years ago.
Bill O'Reilly
Go ahead. Right, but you weren't allowed to smoke back then.
Stephen Baldwin
Correct.
Bill O'Reilly
So you're gonna do what he wants to do. So Sidney Eastwood is a very level headed guy. Right. But extremely powerful.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah. And not a scaredy cat.
Bill O'Reilly
I said, how did she get along with Penn? I mean, my God.
Stephen Baldwin
Right?
Bill O'Reilly
And he looked at me, he goes, no problem. One or two takes. He did it the way I wanted to do it because Eastwood directed it and that was it. And Jack Nicholson said the same thing.
Stephen Baldwin
Right?
Bill O'Reilly
Nicholson loves Pennsylvania. And Nicholson's no raving liberal. Okay, so he's an interesting guy. Now on your podcast, One Bad Movie, what movie? And what guy or gal surprised you the most by saying that movie terrible and I'm sorry, I did it?
Stephen Baldwin
What a fabulous question because literally it's the person that's on right now. No, no, no, no. The guest, you mean.
Bill O'Reilly
Yes.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, yeah. So Brian Austin green, famous for 90210, right. He's the current guest on the show and we're about to drop part two on the YouTube channel. And like I told you, Bill, one bad movie podcast hosted by me. It's like if I sat with you and said, hey, did you do a cameo or did you play a part in something? Did you do a TV commercial? What's the thing where you ate the sushi for lunch and you got food poisoning and you were like, or the car ran over your toe or you know, somebody showed up on set, they were wasted, you know, like, what's the thing that was just the nightmare that now in the retrospect is kind of humorous. So once we start doing all that, it becomes a lot more fun, you know, because now instead of me doing a direct kind of like, you know, like, oh, what's your favorite movie you've done? Or what? You know, so right now I sit down with Brian Austin Green and I say to him something like, oh, well, you know, I just think times have changed and now you have a lot of, you know, actors who are moving into these kind of commercial kind of corporate positions and these titles, and they're making tons of money. Some of these stars, you know, I said, I said Margot Robbie and Barbie, you know, like, right, this gal made $70 million on the back end now, God bless her. Go, go, Margo, go. But I'm just saying to Brian, you know, I just, things have changed and I just, I don't agree with it. And I don't think movies like that, which is kind of like a fictional kind of silly kind of frivolity, right? Exactly. I said, I just don't think those are the great movies Hollywood could, you know, could and should be making now. And bag. Brian Austin Green came back at me, Bill, like you couldn't believe. He's like, oh, yeah, well, I disagree. And here's what. And he kind of very reasonably and quite logically from a financial perspective made a lot of sense. But I'm an old school guy, you know, I like Stand By Me. I like Sixteen Candles now. Brian likes that stuff too, but he's more of a contemporary, open to this other stuff. Nobody believes me when I say this. If I got offered some huge movie tomorrow, but I had to be like in front of a green screen on hooks flying all around, Bill, I'm out. I don't care what you want to pay me.
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Bill O'Reilly
Well, you were in one of the greatest ensemble movies. That was a serious movie. The usual suspect.
Stephen Baldwin
Sure thing.
Bill O'Reilly
Now, when you're in a movie like that and you have all of this talent around you, was there one upmanship in that movie with everybody trying to be better than the exact next guy? And because I remember that movie, it was pretty intense.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, but it wasn't so much one upmanship as much as it was like a dance partner. You know, people were showing up with such interesting choices in their characters that all you could do is focus on your character and how to keep it as interesting, so to speak. And there was one story I love to tell is just one adjustment I had to make in my performance was, you know, everybody loves the police lineup where I say, give me the gang gig gag and I start screaming and I, you know, start acting like a lunatic. A lot of fans come up to me on the street and say to me they love that line. When I kind of worked out the character throughout the whole storyline, I had a few other moments where maybe he'd be more explosive. My character he'd throw somebody against the wall or, you know, shoot his gun or, you know, who knows? But Benicio shows up.
Bill O'Reilly
Del Toro.
Stephen Baldwin
Benicio del Toro shows up, and he's this, like, Latin roadrunner. He, like, just shows up and goes, me, me. And then his run and, like, you know, the whole room goes, what did he just do? You know? So I had to pull back some of the choices I had and kind of not have my character McManus do too much.
Bill O'Reilly
Right, right.
Stephen Baldwin
In order to do that dance with all this other. You know.
Bill O'Reilly
And that brings me to my next question. Were you guys all actors when you were kids? Were you going around reading Shakespeare? Because all four of you wind up in the movies. Bill.
Stephen Baldwin
We were all jocks. We were all jocks.
Bill O'Reilly
No, acting.
Stephen Baldwin
High school, choral. You know, you sang in the chorus. So you did the high school play. And, you know, you did Zorro, and, you know, you had a. You remembered the lines. But not until Alec did his first. What's the name of the soap opera?
Jillian Michaels
The.
Bill O'Reilly
The.
Stephen Baldwin
The Doctors. You remember the original?
Bill O'Reilly
I don't remember him, but I know his history.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, so he started with a little soap opera. He gets a contract to do a soap opera. He's making more in a month than my dad is at Mass Pico High School for the whole year. And all of a sudden, the Baldwin
Bill O'Reilly
said, hey, sports scholarships.
Stephen Baldwin
What's it going to be?
Bill O'Reilly
You ought to have Alec on one bad movie. He's made a few of them.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, we got him already.
Bill O'Reilly
You got him already?
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah.
Bill O'Reilly
All right, I want to see that. So you let me know when that is.
Stephen Baldwin
I'll let you know.
Bill O'Reilly
Talking about kids, Haley, so you have a daughter who's one of the most famous models. Would that be accurate?
Stephen Baldwin
Model, celebrity model, but now kind of business owner.
Bill O'Reilly
Business. All right, so when she was growing up, obviously she had physical attributes that you knit. Did you want her to be in this world? Because that's a pretty intense world that she's in.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, but she's really navigated it quite well, Bill. And she's got a great team. And she had a vision. You know what I mean? Hailey probably could have become a professional ballerina. She was very gifted in dance. She could have become an actress. Still could if she wanted to.
Bill O'Reilly
How old was she when you knew she had this kind of talent?
Stephen Baldwin
I would say she went to a lovely ballet school in the. In the Nanuet area of upstate New York, where. Where we lived for a while, and Nyack. The Nyack area. She went to a coupe. Studios There. And since she was 5, 6, 7, you know, she took little kid classes, goofing around, not serious, but then went on to dance every one of the lead roles in those Christmas performances over the next seven, eight years.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, so you knew she danced all
Stephen Baldwin
the lead roles in the Nutcracker, huh? And it was one of those things where, okay, she's got some gifting, you know, she's got some talents. Let's see what she wants to do. She took all of that and focused it into business.
Bill O'Reilly
Was there a point when you, as the father, had to sit down with her and warn her about certain aspects of show business? Rough business.
Stephen Baldwin
She was well aware of it way in advance.
Bill O'Reilly
How?
Stephen Baldwin
Well, just communication with your kids. Yeah. Just talking to your kids. You know, when my kids were coming to certain events around Hollywood, people, you know, we're from Massapequa, so Mom and I were kind of always making sure the kids understood the algorithm.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, so from the very young age, she knew what you did, how you did it, what the industry was, and she wanted this a lot.
Stephen Baldwin
I can't speak for my daughter. I'm not even supposed to be talking about her now, Bill, you're going to get me in trouble. But anyway, you're a legend, so I can talk.
Bill O'Reilly
She'll forgive you.
Stephen Baldwin
Okay? You heard it here, folks. No, I just think, Haley, like a lot of these young people that have grown up on screens, they have ways of learning things much more quickly on their own. You could really say to yourself, like, who's doing this over here and who's doing what? And just kind of educate yourself about this and that. And her thing was wellness and the health of beauty, so.
Bill O'Reilly
Were you ever worried about her? Were you ever, you know?
Stephen Baldwin
Of course.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah. As a dad, you're getting in too deep too fast, and you get the tabloids stalking her. That's always intrusive. Was there a point where you said, I don't know?
Stephen Baldwin
Not really. Only because, you know, the oversight that my wife and I had at a certain age, you know, when she was hanging out with some of her friends she's still friends with now.
Bill O'Reilly
So you raised her traditionally, yes, sir. Did she buy into the Jesus stuff?
Stephen Baldwin
Oh, she's a Christian. Absolutely.
Bill O'Reilly
So you. You got her in there?
Stephen Baldwin
Jesus got her in there.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay, we'll give Jesus credit for everything you've ever done. That's fine. But, you know, some of these kids in Hollywood, it's, you know, Puff Daddy better than Jesus. You know, I mean, we're talking in some extreme situations here. I'M gl. I'm glad you came out. Well, no, I'm a dad and, and raised like you were on Long island and my daughter is very beautiful woman and always worried about her. I, you know, my son I knew was going to be okay and lacrosse player and you know, he bought into my system. But she was always a little bit on a, you know, this O'Reilly guy. Am I really, you know, that kind of thing?
Stephen Baldwin
That's funny.
Bill O'Reilly
But I spent an inordinate amount of time worried about her. Not that she was doing anything wrong. She wasn't.
Stephen Baldwin
I just wanted world out there.
Bill O'Reilly
I wanted everything to turn out so well.
Stephen Baldwin
It's the old duck to water bill. You got to let them.
Bill O'Reilly
You got to let them fly. No, no. And we had two pools so there's a lot of water and she could get in there anytime she wanted. The world feels increasingly unstable. Between global conflicts and skyrocketing debt, smart investors are ditching the dollar for hard assets like gold. One uncertainty hits. I trust American Hartford Gold to protect my savings. They make it simple and have physical gold and silver delivered to your door or placed inside a tax advantaged IRA. Their specialists can even help roll over your 401k tax free with an a Better Business Bureau rating. Their record is unmatched, so don't wait. Protect your wealth with something real. Please call now. Tell them O'Reilly sent you to receive up to $20,000 in free silver with your first purchase. Purchase 866-501-5201 or text BILL to 655-328-665-05201 or text BILL to 65532 or click the link in the video description. Now you come across to me. I don't know you that well, but I know you a little bit. And each Baldwin brother has their own personality. Obviously I'm going to. Alec is, you know, I wouldn't say problematic, but he's confrontational.
Stephen Baldwin
Used to be. He's more chill.
Bill O'Reilly
He's full back.
Stephen Baldwin
He's more chill.
Bill O'Reilly
Right. Because the kids won't let him out of the house. But if he ever gets out of the house, I'm telling you, he's going back to the confrontation. We'll see. Billy, I. I never got a bad vibe out of Billy. Sweetheart. Yeah.
Stephen Baldwin
I mean he was married to China Phillips.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah. And that Phillips family, they're crazy. And John Phillips totally out of his blanket mind. And she turned out really well. Sure looked to me anyway. Fabulous. And then Daniel, I think is hysterical myself.
Stephen Baldwin
You Got another name is coming up. So yeah, careful.
Bill O'Reilly
Be careful. And then you. I mean, that's quite. That's quite a brood.
Stephen Baldwin
It's quite a lineup.
Bill O'Reilly
Quite a brood. I don't know of when other brood maybe the Barrymores.
Stephen Baldwin
I don't think there's been four immediate siblings that have made as many films
Bill O'Reilly
as you guys all together.
Stephen Baldwin
The people boys. So God bless Jerry Seinfeld. You're a huge talent, but we've made a bunch of stuff, right?
Bill O'Reilly
Do you know Seinfeld? He's out on the island.
Stephen Baldwin
I don't. Do you know Jerry?
Bill O'Reilly
I know him a little bit.
Stephen Baldwin
Tell him to come on one bad movie with me.
Bill O'Reilly
You know, if you tell him isn't
Stephen Baldwin
just luxury cars and comedy.
Bill O'Reilly
Here's what you. Here's how you get him. You tell him. Yeah, you'll have a Hall of fame met guy there. New York Mets. He'll come because he loves the Mets.
Stephen Baldwin
Guy to come sit in the room, right?
Bill O'Reilly
You did. Yeah. Howard Johnson will do it. Just give him a call. Howard, come right up. Seinfeld loves. Loves the.
Stephen Baldwin
The Mets.
Bill O'Reilly
Loves the Mets.
Stephen Baldwin
Die Hard.
Bill O'Reilly
Every time I see Seinfeld, it's not often, but I see him around once in a while. He tries to make fun of my clothing,
Stephen Baldwin
of course.
Bill O'Reilly
And I. And I always look at my I. I go, is this what it's all about? Seinfeld? Insults about nothing yet a show about nothing. You made $200 million. Now you're insulting me about nothing. So he's an interesting character. It's something about Long Island.
Stephen Baldwin
Sure. It just a lot of fun cowardice coming out of there.
Bill O'Reilly
Right? You had to have attitude where you guys just chutzpah. Yeah, well, you got washed, right? You didn't have attitude. Raised Ivan Levittown. And that's what translated.
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Bill O'Reilly
So on the one bad movie front, you told a story about the, the guy who sees it differently now about making movies. Was there a movie mentioned on your podcast that surprised you that you thought, hey, this was a great movie. It turns out to be a terrible movie. And here's X, Y and Z. I,
Stephen Baldwin
I've, I've a similar thought bubble, but not about a movie. I had Rumer Willis. Oh, the daughter of Bruce and Demi.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
And I interviewed her because I just wanted to hear from, you know, her algorithm of young people. And I was interviewing her and how do you say to her, like, what Bruce Willis means to us from back in the day.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
You know, from, from, from, you know, not Moonstruck. What is it? Moonlighting. So Moonlighting was, you know, as like, but it's iconic as Seinfeld. You know, I mean, obviously, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
Bill O'Reilly
So
Stephen Baldwin
I turn around and I say to her, not to be weird, but I just like, I know your mom and dad is there. Let me get this question out of the way. I said, what content, what thing from your childhood that your parents did is the one thing it could have been Die Hard. It could have been, you know, anything. And she picks that series, Moonlighting. She says, when I think about my dad's work and the stuff he's done, my favorite go to binge watch is Moonlighting.
Bill O'Reilly
And that was before her time. She's watching reruns, right?
Stephen Baldwin
She's watching it decades later. And it was just odd to see his kid now a mom herself, you know, actress, singer, super talented. Just to bring up Moonlighting caught me like, that question you just said, like, was there something that she could have picked? Anything. I thought that was very cool.
Bill O'Reilly
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Stephen Baldwin
Thank you.
Bill O'Reilly
You gotta market it. That's always the hardest part of any of this scene.
Stephen Baldwin
Sure.
Bill O'Reilly
But it's gonna do well because people still like the old time Hollywood. Like you were talking about the traditional movies. I, I don't go to cd. Everything's blowing up. They're making that movie for people in Pakistan who want to see everything blown up. That's what they're making a movie for. I was in Transformers. I was there Me and Chaturo, we'll talk about that. And I had four movies made myself that I exec produced like my books. So know the world a little bit, right? But I still don't waste time on what they're throwing out there. Now I'm in a movie theater when James Bond started weeping or doing whatever he did before they blew him up, right? That's it. Sean Connery never would have done that. I'm not doing this anymore. You're funny right? So when you have this podcast, if you can transport people back to that time, that's what we do in history where movies really meant something, people talk about them. People would style themselves after the movies. Right now that doesn't happen. So that's why I think the value of this podcast. I wish I had thought of this idea. Summertime expenses in 2026 are stacking up faster than ever. For many of us, the only option is swiping the credit card, leaving you trapped in a cycle of high interest debt homeowners American Financing as a way out. They will look at your current debt, show you exactly how your home's equity can work for you. Imagine rolling that high interest debt into one manageable payment every month. No upfront fees, zero pressure. Just honest advice from salary based consultants. On average customers save $800 a month. That is real breathing room. Start today and you may even be able to delay two mortgage payments. American Financing America's Home for Home Loans 888-462-955-7788 8462, 9557AmericanFinancing.net Bill turning 65 years old Medicare is a total headache. Between the fine print and the endless spam, it's easy to end up on a plan that drains your bank account while missing the coverage you actually need. That is why we have partnered up with Chapter. Unlike most chapter advocates for you, not the insurance company, they've already helped hundreds of my listeners save thousands of dollars. One listener, Mark, called his consultation absolutely spectacular, wondering how any company could be that efficient. They are the only advisors who compare every plan nationwide and they will review your best options all in under 20 minutes. Best chapter is a free resource for my audience. Please give chapter a call today. Speak with a licensed advisor. Feel confident in your Medicare coverage, but when you're offered a project now, does the born again stuff that you believe in enter into your decision making.
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If Mel Gibson called me and said I'm doing Lethal Weapon 9 and you can play the bad guy with your little mullet haircut, you know the Swedish, you know, bank robber, you know, Sven gotta have. You gotta have a sweet Sven. Gotta have a Swedish. And his sidekick Olga.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
You know, look, the guy wants to pay me a couple million bucks to show up and do a big budget. As long as I don't have to say the F word. And as long you won't say the
Bill O'Reilly
F word in the movies.
Stephen Baldwin
I won't say the F word.
Bill O'Reilly
Whoa.
Stephen Baldwin
And it's bleeped out of one bad movie.
Bill O'Reilly
Ah, very interesting. So no profanity by Stephen.
Stephen Baldwin
Why put out negativity? Bill, let's stay positive.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
If I can make my point creatively in the stuff I create. Now, don't get me. Don't get me wrong, there's a rodeo picture. I'm going to write, produce and direct. There's another.
Bill O'Reilly
Because they do say the rodeo, when the bull throws them and they hit their head, they say the F word. Okay. I can guarantee you that in between the tobacco juice coming out, the F word is coming out too, sir.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, with. With. With the appropriate motivation.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah.
Stephen Baldwin
Obviously.
Bill O'Reilly
No, it's in contact.
Stephen Baldwin
But you're making my point, which is within context, if there was bad language and material I produced.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
That would be different. You know, I'm not going to do a movie that's an urban movie with some characters. It's like, you know, yo, homie, you
Bill O'Reilly
know, you're not doing Superfly.
Stephen Baldwin
Well, I'm not doing something that's unrealistic.
Bill O'Reilly
Okay.
Stephen Baldwin
But as writer, producer, director, you can kind of shape all that. So I'm looking forward to kind of the challenge of what you're talking about.
Bill O'Reilly
You do have parameters based upon your absolute beliefs.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah.
Bill O'Reilly
Certain things you won't do now that you would have done before.
Stephen Baldwin
Absolutely. I've kind of. I've made out with a couple of cute gals, Bill, in 40 years on screen, and I'm good now. I'm a grandpa. No more making out.
Bill O'Reilly
Did they have to pay those women extra to do cheap shot? Sorry.
Stephen Baldwin
No.
Bill O'Reilly
Yes.
Stephen Baldwin
I just. I had it coming. I had it coming, sir.
Bill O'Reilly
So now your belief system, religious belief system, does shape the way you want to produce entertainment.
Stephen Baldwin
Yes, but not like it used to.
Bill O'Reilly
Moderate it a little bit.
Stephen Baldwin
I'm almost 30. Yes, of course. You know, like a fine wine. Right. You kind of figure out the Bible for yourself. You kind of figure out how to choose your battles. You kind of figure out family. You know, as you progress up in your personal life, hopefully, you know, with your business and career, it can spill on over into that as well. So right now I'm doing one bad movie. I'm getting ready to do a bunch of kind of a faith adjacent content. That's the marketing words, Bill. Faith.
Bill O'Reilly
So it's not adjacent.
Stephen Baldwin
So, yeah, it's not. It's not like the new Christian movies that are out, like, I can only imagine and all these other big, obvious faith based.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
If I do a rodeo picture, it's going to be a rodeo picture where there's a couple scenes where they pray over the meal.
Bill O'Reilly
Right.
Stephen Baldwin
And there can be Christianity within it. But my hope is that as a storyteller, I can create stories and content that impart all of that. But in the old way of great filmmaking, you know, right now, Christian, that's what people want.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, they want good stories.
Stephen Baldwin
It's getting better, right, Christian Content's getting much better. No question now.
Bill O'Reilly
Well, Gibson just finished his resurrection movie. It's it. I think it took him 18 years to shoot it, but he just finished it. And that's going to reignite that whole genre absolutely globally, right?
Stephen Baldwin
No question.
Bill O'Reilly
I thought the passion was. Was a little too gory for me when I remember sitting in a makeup chair next to Mel Gibson, who needed about 30 seconds of makeup while I need four hours. Right. So he was there and I went, do you really need the last nailed. I mean, could we done. You know, we got it. Yeah, up there. So I don't know what he's doing with the resurrection thing, but he spent a ton of money on it, shot it in Rome and they just wrapped it about two weeks ago.
Stephen Baldwin
Wow. Could have been. But it's still. But he's got two coming out. He's got.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, it's a two parter.
Stephen Baldwin
Yeah, it's resurrect. And then another one comes out. Like a couple, like.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah, I think it's six months ahead behind.
Stephen Baldwin
It's gonna be interesting.
Bill O'Reilly
I like Gibson. He's crazy. Sorry, Mel, but you are. But I like him because he's honest.
Stephen Baldwin
Oh, yeah.
Bill O'Reilly
All right. You ask him a question just like you, you get an answer. So, Stephen, thank you very much for coming in. We're gonna hold Stephen over.
Stephen Baldwin
I got one more thing.
Bill O'Reilly
Go ahead.
Stephen Baldwin
190 seconds.
Bill O'Reilly
Sure.
Stephen Baldwin
You ready for this? Because this is. This is one of the only ways. Bill.
Bill O'Reilly
All right. Massamiqui chiefs.
Stephen Baldwin
One of the only ways I can get even with Kill Mead, who thinks he's Mr. Massapequa.
Bill O'Reilly
And that's Brian Kilmeade.
Stephen Baldwin
Brian Kilmeade, my hometown, God bless him,
Bill O'Reilly
State of New York, trying to knock that chief thing out now.
Stephen Baldwin
Bill. This is a 1989 original Massapequa High School wrestling.
Bill O'Reilly
Wow.
Stephen Baldwin
Zip up. This is the old one, bro. This is literally double xl. This and my Burner high school shirt are the two last things I have from my old town. And I'm giving it to you.
Bill O'Reilly
No, that's not.
Stephen Baldwin
This is for you.
Bill O'Reilly
That's a.
Stephen Baldwin
You know why I want kill me to see this.
Bill O'Reilly
And he's gonna go be jealous.
Stephen Baldwin
He even Brian kill me doesn't. Bad boys, bro.
Bill O'Reilly
You know what? I'm gonna. I'm gonna wear it next time I see Hokel.
Stephen Baldwin
Please.
Bill O'Reilly
Yeah. And she'll love the logo.
Stephen Baldwin
She'll love. I'm retired from politics.
Bill O'Reilly
Very nice of you. I appreciate that.
Stephen Baldwin
Appreciate it.
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Date: May 21, 2026
Host: Bill O’Reilly
Guest: Stephen Baldwin
In this episode of “We’ll Do It LIVE!”, Bill O’Reilly hosts actor and content creator Stephen Baldwin for a candid conversation that spans family dynamics, politics, religion, Hollywood stories, and the evolving world of show business. Baldwin opens up about his relationships with his famous brothers, his spiritual journey, his Hollywood experiences, parenting in the spotlight, and how his values shape his creative work. The discussion is warm, humorous, and peppered with lively banter and personal anecdotes.
[02:01–07:31]
Losing Relationships Over Politics
O’Reilly references a study that 37% of Americans have lost relationships due to politics, prompting a discussion about the Baldwin brothers’ well-known political differences.
Growing Up Baldwin
Stephen shares stories about his rambunctious place in the family, with his brothers varying between protectors and antagonists.
Family Values and Parental Influence
Stephen describes his father as a liberal Democrat with “very traditional values,” emphasizing respect and unity despite differing politics.
Impact of 9/11 and Religion
O'Reilly reflects on Baldwin’s political and religious shifts post-9/11. Stephen explains his turn toward being “born again” and how it shaped (but didn’t fracture) the family.
[08:40–11:08; 43:12–46:47]
What Does "Born Again" Mean?
Stephen passionately recounts the biblical story of Nicodemus to explain his personal, relationship-based Christian faith.
How Faith Affects His Career Choices
Stephen outlines how his faith now places limitations on the projects he’ll accept, avoiding profanity and promoting positive or “faith-adjacent” content.
[13:35–26:50]
Leaving 'Casualties of War' & Sean Penn Story
Stephen details his abrupt exit from Brian De Palma’s film after clashing with Sean Penn’s method-acting demands—proof of Hollywood’s clout dynamics.
Hollywood Then vs. Now
Baldwin and O’Reilly commiserate about Hollywood’s changes—blockbusters focused on foreign audiences and less interest in artful or serious storytelling.
‘One Bad Movie’ Podcast Memories
Stephen delights in recounting stories his guests share, especially Brian Austin Green’s spirited defense of modern blockbusters and Rumer Willis’ surprising nostalgia for her father’s series, Moonlighting.
[27:01–31:37]
Raising a Famous Daughter
Stephen discusses Hailey Baldwin’s (Bieber's) disciplined childhood, early talent for dance, and the values he and his wife instilled, preparing her for the challenges of fame.
On Hailey’s Faith
O’Reilly checks whether Hailey shares Stephen’s beliefs:
Worries as a Father
Both men commiserate about parental anxieties, especially with daughters in the public eye.
[24:15–26:58; 33:27–36:47]
Working on 'The Usual Suspects'
Stephen shares how working with an intense, talented cast led to a creative dance, especially adapting his performance in response to Benicio del Toro’s unexpected choices.
Sibling Rivalry & Success
The brothers' shift from jocks to actors is discussed, spurred by Alec's breakthrough on a soap opera.
The Uniqueness of the Baldwin Sibling Cohort
O’Reilly compares them to the Barrymores and Peppards, noting there aren’t many groups of four siblings as prolific in Hollywood.
[43:12–47:52]
Stephen’s Creative Boundaries
Baldwin reiterates his current boundaries around swearing and explicit content, both in podcasting and in film, stemming from his faith.
Hopes for Faith-Driven Cinema
O’Reilly references Mel Gibson’s upcoming resurrection epic, and Stephen expresses hope for a new wave of thoughtful, well-made, faith-friendly films.
[48:14–49:27]
The conversation is lively, self-deprecating, sometimes irreverent, but warm and thoughtful, mixing serious reflections on faith and personal values with showbiz gossip, family humor, and old-school camaraderie. Both O’Reilly and Baldwin are frank, open, and frequently poke fun at themselves and each other.
This summary provides a complete, engaging recap for listeners who missed the episode, highlighting the authentic, insightful, and entertaining moments shared between Bill O’Reilly and Stephen Baldwin.