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Hey, Bill O'Reilly, welcome to the no Smith News. Monday, May 4, 2026 stand up for your country. Today's message of the day on billoriley.com is kind of important. I write about losing sight of what is important in your life. So it goes right to you and how you're living now. Many of us are losing sight of what's important and we are descending into world of fantasy and apathy that's beyond any doubt. And it's the dopey devices, of course, cyberspace, but also selfishness, too. So I hope you read the message because a lot of what's happening today in America is based upon the American people not really understanding. All right. Because a lot of them don't want to understand what's happening around them. Talking Points Memo is about Secretary of State Rubio going to Rome on Thursday to meet with Pope Leo and the president or prime minister of Italy Meloni, who used to be an ally and is no longer. So it's an important meeting. So Rubio is a good choice. He's a Roman Catholic. He's not confrontational man. I mean, I know him, but his status in my eyes has risen in the last year or so. He's done a very good job as secretary of state. So on Thursday, he's going to, he's going to the Vatican. And you know, this is not usual. He's going to visit Pope Leo at The Apostolic Palace, 11:30am Press will be all over it. Then on Friday, he's going to meet with the pope's cabinet. Yes, the pope has a cabinet because Vatican's a country. And then on Friday, he's got the prime minister in Rome. And they're going under the banner of being conciliatory, which is another good thing. We need the bases air bases in Italy. We need somebody to be our friends in Europe. And this is the best hope. Now, both Pope Leo and President Trump don't understand each other. They may not want to understand each other. I don't know Pope Leo. Okay, I do know Donald Trump. They talk past each other. It's almost like they're two different languages. And this all stems the Iranian thing isn't really what's on the table. It's immigration. That's what it goes back to. And the pope, I think made a mistake getting into the Iranian conflict when he wouldn't follow up with answers to specific questions, like is Vatican okay with the mullahs having a nuclear weapon? That's a yes or no question. And Pope Leo didn't want to answer it because he doesn't want bad relationships between Christians and Islamists. He didn't want that. So he's not going to answer those kinds of questions. Donald Trump is convinced that Pope Francis, Leo's predecessor, and Pope Leo are liberation theologians. What does that mean? Both of them were missionaries in South America, very poor. Both of them saw people get destroyed by corrupt. I don't know what you're going to call these dictators down there, but they didn't give a hoot about their people, and they administered to those poor people. Both Francis and Leo did the same thing, and they became very liberal in trying to help poor migrants. Then you have politics come into it because the United States says we have to stop millions of people from coming in here unattended, which Trump has succeeded in doing. But the popes themselves didn't quite get the why of that. Here's what the president said. Go. So we have the lowest murder rate in 125 years, since 1900, the lowest murder rate. We believe strongly in law and order. And he. He seemed to have a problem with that. So there's nothing to apologize for. He's wrong. It's not that Pope Leo is a problem with law and order. He doesn't see it as the top priority. Okay, now there you go. He could be wrong, because certainly front page in New York Post today is another guy. He comes in, stabs two Long island women to death, goes on and on and on. When you let millions of people into a country, any country, there's a study going on now in Northern Europe where the immigrants commit three times as many violent crimes as the indigenous population. That's what you're going to get. These are unattended people. These are people who were dumped out of prison, specifically with marching orders to come here by Maduro and by Mexico, whoever. But the pope's job is to administer to the poor, not separate them out. Bad, Good. All right, so therefore, the president, who sees unfettered immigration as bad because of a violence attached to it. And this is a debate I had with Geraldo, who still to this day refuses to acknowledge the danger of millions of people pouring in here. We don't know who they are or what they've done in their past. He won't do it. All right. And Neither will Pope Leo. So we have to attend to the poor. Period. Period. Period. Nothing more than that. And it drives some people crazy because they say you can't be advocating a policy that brings danger to innocent people. And that's what unfettered immigration does, flat out, does it. Okay, so you got two guys you're talking past you about. Can Rubio broker this? I don't know. Okay. I could by having them both keep quiet. Okay. The Pope does not have to be persuaded and the President doesn't have to be persuaded. You could stay in their own zones. All right? Just don't interfere. If something positive is happening, and certainly closing down the poorest border was a positive for this country, and you don't think so, then you're not, you know, going back to my message of the day, you don't live in reality. You don't. Okay. In addition, the Trump administration has got to start getting some allies on it on Iran. I don't expect Italy to magically come over to our side, but they'll make some progress there. The Boba is not going to get involved with that. He's not. But we do need more allies, and it's just crazy we don't have them because it's certainly not a good thing for a terror state to have a nuclear weapon. I don't care where you are, what you're doing now. I know you're paying more for gas. I know everybody knows this is painful, but sometimes you got to see the big picture. Let's face it, the US Economy is under stress. National debt rising, trade war shaking the markets. And meanwhile, China is dumping the dollar and stockpiling gold. That's why I protected my savings with physical gold and silver through the only dealer I trust, American Hartford Gold. And you can do this. Get precious metals delivered to your door or place in a tax advantage. Gold, Iraq. They'll even help you roll over your existing IRA or 401k tax and penalty free. With billions in precious metals delivered, thousands of five star reviews and an A from the Better Business Bureau. You can trust American Hartford Gold as I do. 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And that's the memo. There's a polling on inflation. This is Washington Post dope. It's a dopey poll. 2,560 US adults. Those are people who don't necessarily participate in elections or pay attention to anything you want, registered voters or likely voters in your poll. Washington Post knows that. But it's easier to get the result they want by just throwing it out into adults. Question number one. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Donald Trump's handling his job? Approve. 37 Disprove 62. All right. We've seen that before. Do you approve or disprove the way Donald Trump's handling the economy? Prove. 34. Disprove. 65. That's higher prices. Do you approve or disprove the way Donald Trump's handling situation with Iran? Approve. 33. Low number. Disapprove 66%. Now, the MAGA pundits, the conservative men and women who deliver news analysis every day, they're going to try to persuade you that the Trump policies are vitally necessary for the nation. Problem with that is they speak to the choir. They speak to a very small segment of the American population. So while their message is accepted by their audience, this is not a wide persuasion. President Trump would have to do that himself. And he's going to have to do it because of the midterms coming on up. May, May, November goes fast. Latest in Iran today, US Navy took out six small Iranian boats that were designed to stop shipping. So they're at the bottom of the ocean. You know, it's basically the president's going to have to decide to step it up. I don't think he can go another month or so with the way we are now, particularly because those gas prices are hitting about 450 a gallon. I mean, that's a Killer. Joining us out from Washington is Dr. Judy Shelton, the former economic adviser to Donald Trump in his first term. She's a senior fellow at the Independent Institute. So putting politics aside and just getting into the effectiveness of the Iranian war, you'd have to say it's undefined right now. Dr. Or would I be wrong?
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No, it's. It's somewhat undefined in some aspects. You could claim a certain amount of victory. But we see things heating up today and our markets are responding to that. The price of oil is responding to that. So nothing has been decided in the end.
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And that is angering a lot of non ideological voters, people who aren't committed to the MAGA or not committed to the liberal progressive side because they walk out every day, got to pay more money, the essentials of life. And so they're going to take it out on the administration, or is there a way they wouldn't take it out on the administration?
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Well, part of it, as you brought up, is the way those polls are worded. If you ask people if they think it would be a good thing to take away the power from Iran to threaten us with nuclear weapons, they would be very much in favor of that. That's popular in a broad way, but it's true. People don't like to see the price of gasoline go up and they do respond to that. I probably am in that group of mega supporters who thinks that this is all going to work out. I applaud the president for showing leadership. No one said it would be easy, which is why other presidents haven't attempted to confront Iran. I think we're well situated as far as being oil producers ourselves, largely thanks to things that were done under the Trump administration. And I think the price of oil will come down once it's resolved. And meanwhile, companies are doing well, consumer demand is good, people are getting refunds from their taxes. So there's all kinds of indications that we'll be doing well once we get through it. But some people are less inclined to get through it and there's a lot of murmuring going on now.
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Okay, but you say that it was not in the beginning defined that it would be this difficult. President Trump made some statements and said, hey, we're going to wax them pretty hard and it's not going to be a long situation. So he raised the expectations of victory in Iran and now it's coming back to haunt him. Or am I wrong?
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Well, expectations were high, no doubt, because it looks so easy in Venezuela. Not only, not only need and minimal loss of life but the people of Venezuela were grateful. We were saying, thank you, getting rid of this guy. And now oil revenues are going to start to flow to those citizens. It helps us and it helps Venezuela. So it wasn't so easy in Iran. We're dealing with a much more entrenched power, I think more ideologically driven, maybe somewhat irrational as far as when we try to put together military strategy. They have these little mosquito boats, as you say, where we take them out. But they're also attacking, for example, what used to be their own allies in the region, the United Arab Emirates. So they're taking it out on their allies. And maybe that's. That we weren't expecting. So now we're going to have the allies and all of that is dragging us in and making the whole thing take a lot longer. And the more the potential for action by our navy, the more potential for expenses. If we're trying to somehow ensure the safe passage of cargo ships through the straightforward moves between all of those risks, treasure, life itself, we're paying a higher price than I think people had been.
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Yeah, I think that the president also, I don't think he was misled. I. It's just the way war is, the fog of war. Final question. You were an economic adviser to Donald Trump. I get hundreds of letters saying, look, America is self sufficient in energy, oil, got plenty of it here. Why are gasoline prices going up a buck and a half at the pump? If we have all this oil here in the boundaries of our country, why are they going up so much? How do you answer that?
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Well, it is a global market. Yes, we're the largest supplier, but the price is pretty much governed by global demand. And so even our biggest producers are in competition with the other major producers in the world. And they even respond when the price goes up, then they tend to produce more. It's not like we're like opec, but our own producers do respond to price signals that are generated by, by demand.
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We don't have any oil shortages here, but we have higher prices and we shouldn't have higher prices if we have enough oil to service our population, whereas places like China don't. They have to import all their oil. We don't have to import any of our oil. So people are starting to say, you know, the American oil company is taking advantage of the situation and I'm kind of in that group. Last word.
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Well, I, I guess we could be the way the old Soviet Union was and say we're totally self sufficient and we don't want to trade with the rest of the world, and we just kind of close up Shah. And then in economics, you're called an autarkic country, so you don't need to trade. But the US has never been that way. We've been hurt by globalization in many respects, but we're still pretty much. We have an attitude of it's an open global market. And I think when it comes to energy, those forces are still going to dominate. I don't think we could ask our producers to only produce for the United States.
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All right, Doctor, thanks very much. We appreciate it and hope we can talk again soon. Thank you, Comey. So I was going to do a big story on Comey today, but now I don't know what the story is. I don't know what it is. And I'll play a sound bite in a moment that'll illuminate my confusion. Almost everybody in the corporate media are going, he's a lawfare victim. Comey's this, Comey's that. Comey's a rat. And I mean that. In the mob, if you inform on somebody or you betray the family, you're a rat. And that's what Comey did.
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He leaked out bad stuff about Trump through a friend who worked at Columbia University to the New York Times. That's been established. Okay. Now, is that a crime? No. All right. I don't believe it is. And if it is, the Justice Department has not used that. What they're saying is that Comey threatened President Trump's life. I haven't seen it. Okay. But apparently there are other things in play. So the assistant Attorney General Todd Blanche, who's running a show at the J Department now. He goes on NBC and here's what happened. Go.
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The Justice Department has already indicted former FBI Director James Comey, as you know, and New York Attorney General Letitia James and a federal judge dismissed both of those cases. Why should people have confidence that this case will actually move forward and is rooted in facts?
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Well, let's, let's, let's be accurate. Okay? The judge dismissed those cases not based on a factual finding that President Trump did something wrong or that there was something wrong with the underlying facts leading to that indictment. The federal judge dismissed that case because he found that the U.S. attorney was not properly appointed. That's not, there was no final finding on the facts or anything like that. So you see what she did, Walker? Do you see what she did? She knows that most of her audience, most of America doesn't remember the reason that the Comey case was thrown out. And that was the person prosecuting Comey at the federal level was not properly. Okay, given the job. Welker had to know that, but sets it up like there was something wrong with the case. This is why I'm on the media all the time, because that's deception. She is trying to deceive you or she's too dumb to know what happened. One of the two. Neither are good options. Now, Blanche says we got new stuff, we got other stuff, and that's why the grand jury indicted him. Remember, Comey is not in the grand jury room, and his attorneys do not have the option of disputing anything that Blanche brings. That's why it's so easy to indict people in America. Not easy to convict, but easy to indict. Now, I don't know what Blanche has got, and that's why I'm, I can't cover the story. I'll be on with Leland Vitter tonight on News Nation. I'm, I'm sure this will come up. I'm going to go, I don't know what he's got. How can I analyze when I don't know. Now, if I were Blanche, I kind of say, look, we got this. We got the seashells, but we also have this. But. So they haven't done it. Another lawsuit, Gavin Newsom against Fox News. Newsom suing for $787 million in the state of Delaware because that's where the Fox Corporation is based. Okay, this is another dopey thing. So on June 6th last year, 2025, Trump and Newsom had a telephone call. 16 minute call. Okay. And they were talking about the situation in California where ICE was running down. People shouldn't be here. Those six minute. All those calls are taped. They're all logged. So Trump said, I had a call with Newsom, I think yesterday. Actually, the call was four days before that. So Trump had the timeline off. But he's the President, you know, come on, is that a big deal? Bad to call? Was it for four days or one day? Who cares? Well, Jesse Waters went on the air and said, oh, well, Newsom lied about the call. Maybe he did. Maybe Newsom did lie about the call. I don't know why four days to one day makes a difference, but maybe he wanted to deceive in some way. Anyway, that's the basis of the suit. So Newsom says, oh no, they knew, Waters and Fox, that I had to call. All right? And then they cut out a portion of the President's explanation. That was a day or so ago. Leading the audience to think that I lied about the call. That's it. That's the whole case. And Drench said it can go forward. This is so loopy, I can't even believe it. So you're supposed to pay $787 million because of a false timeline that you may not even remember. Unlike the election thing, the machines, Fox not going to lose this.
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Rudy Giuliani in a hospital, pneumonia. Palm Beach, Florida. 81 years old. I feel bad for Giuliani. He did an unbelievable job as mayor of New York city. And after 9 11, he was magnificent as a public servant. And then he got involved with the election of 2020, where Giuliani overstated stuff. And because he did overstate by saying it was widespread voter fraud, he lost his license. He was disbarred in New York, and he had to go into Georgia and other places to defend himself and erect him. Erect him. And I stood by watching all this. The mayor should have been more careful with what he was saying because he couldn't back it up. And to this day, there are a lot of people who believe that that election 2020, was false, including President Trump. And I've said this in the very beginning, you have a perfect right to believe that. Perfect right. But there's no backup for it. Legal backup. There are backups in Arizona, in Fulton County, Georgia, in Pennsylvania. There are isolated backups, and you can point to them. But massive voter fraud, that would mean the election would come out differently. That evidence has not been put forth. So Giuliani got caught up in that. As you know, it really wrecked him. Last time I saw him about a year ago, not in good shape. So he's in a hospital with pneumonia right now. This is a new poll, Associated Press, Very, very fraudulent poll. Again, 1092 US adults, the same thing. All right, first question. How often do you find yourself actively trying to avoid news stories about President Trump? Often. Sometimes. 62. Never really. 36. I don't understand that. People are tired of that. They're part of it. Particularly if you don't follow politics, how often do you find yourself actively trying to avoid news in general? Often sometimes. 54. Never. Rarely. 44. All right. Even though it's a stupid poll, I think it's about right. Final question. How important is it to you that sources you use to get news information align with your values or views? Not at all important. 19. Somewhat important. 46. Extremely important. 33. That 79% of Americans want to hear in some capacity what they already believe. That's a big weakness in this country. People believe what they want to believe and they seek out news commentary that bolters their belief system. That is the main reason why we are the most successful independent news agency in the country, because we don't do that. There are people, okay, who just let me have it, which is what we do. But there are more people, more Americans that say, I want to do O'Reilly because he doesn't tell me what I want to hear. And they're on both sides, but primarily on the left. All right. No, I don't like him. I don't like him. He doesn't, you know, I believe something and he doesn't believe it. Not that I don't believe it. I'm giving you facts back with the final thought in a moment. Okay. Final thought. I'll be on News Nation tonight with Leland Vitter and want to explain again that we have so much happening here. Just check in with Billow reilly.com It's the easiest way to go about all this stuff because we just have like a menu of it, right? And you just whatever you want to see or hear, you just boom, and it goes right over. You don't have to go through all these dances to get to this. And then that, you know, there's enough people can't even get to bill o'reilly.com. they're older, mostly elderly people. They can, they don't know what it is. They can't get on. How come you're not on Fox anymore? Well, we have our own operation. They look at you like, oh, what? Nothing I can do but make it as easy as I can. All right. But watch the Rosenberg interview and check me out on News Nation tonight. Thank you for watching the no Spin news this evening. I'm Bill O'Reilly.
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Title: Why is Marco Rubio Visiting the Pope?, Dr. Judy Shelton Breaks Down Rising U.S. Gas Prices, James Comey Latest & Gavin Newsom vs. Fox News Lawsuit
Host: Bill O’Reilly
In this episode, Bill O’Reilly tackles several major political events and controversies:
O’Reilly’s signature tone is direct, candid, and at times critical—offering his interpretation of current events while emphasizing a non-partisan, facts-first approach.
[00:30 – 13:30]
[Memorable Moment]:
O’Reilly’s candid frustration with American “fantasy and apathy”—
“Many of us are losing sight of what's important and we are descending into a world of fantasy and apathy... And it's the dopey devices, of course, cyberspace, but also selfishness, too.” (B, 00:37)
[14:41 – 21:06]
On Domestic Oil Prices:
O’Reilly voices audience suspicion that U.S. oil companies are exploiting the crisis.
Shelton explains globalized energy economics means isolationism isn’t feasible.
[21:06 – 26:50]
[26:50 – 28:28]
[29:46 – 34:56]
[29:46 – 31:49]
On Trump and the Pope:
“Both Pope Leo and President Trump don’t understand each other. They may not want to understand each other... It’s almost like they’re two different languages.” — Bill O’Reilly (B, 02:36)
On U.S. Energy Markets:
“We’ve been hurt by globalization in many respects, but… when it comes to energy, those forces are still going to dominate. I don’t think we could ask our producers to only produce for the United States.” — Dr. Judy Shelton (C, 20:24)
On Media Deception:
“She is trying to deceive you or she's too dumb to know what happened. One of the two. Neither are good options.” — Bill O’Reilly on NBC’s Welker (B, 24:20)
On News Consumption:
“79% of Americans want to hear in some capacity what they already believe. That’s a big weakness in this country.” — Bill O’Reilly (B, 33:51)
This episode demonstrates O’Reilly’s critical approach to headlines swirling around politics, media, and policy. It offers a skeptical view of U.S. polling and legal maneuvering, a deep-dive into energy economics, and pointed criticism of media partisanship—all while reflecting on the challenges facing American public understanding and trust.
For further analysis and segments, O’Reilly directs listeners to BillOReilly.com.