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Biohacking Beauty: The Anti-Aging Skincare Podcast
Liz Kennedy: Magnetic Beauty, Where Consciousness Meets Biohacking
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Before we get into today's episode, a quick but very important thank you to everyone leaving ratings and reviews. Believe it or not, those few seconds you spend writing a review truly helps this podcast grow and continue bringing on amazing guests. We're celebrating you by giving away a free product every week to one lucky reviewer. This week's winner is I, Aria in the sky with Diamonds on Apple Podcasts for their five star review and I'm going to read that review now. The conversational tone of this podcast makes the science of skincare easier to understand, even if you're new were to the idea of skin longevity. I've recommended it to several skincare newbie friends and they loved the more approachable tone. I love that the the hosts don't always agree on every single thing. Creates a thought provoking dialogue. I appreciate the minimal small talk and the stray talk about which skincare trends may be nothing more than trends. This is the only skincare podcast I impatiently await every week. Huge thanks. Aria in the sky with Diamonds. Reach out to us on Instagram with a DM so we can get you a free product sent your way. Okay. Welcome to Biohacking Beauty Podcast. I'm Amitai.
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And I'm Anastasia. Together we are the founders of Yango Skincare and the hosts of Biohacking Beauty Podcast.
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Yeah. And today we have a very special guest, Liz Kennedy.
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I'm so excited to talk to her.
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I know you are. You really, I mean, you did your hair so well.
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Yes, yes. She empowered me to feel at my most beautiful and show up my, my most prepared self. And I think that's one of the many things she, how she influences her audience.
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Yes. So she is a Coach, Motivational Speaker, TEDx speaker and Beauty expert. That's kind of how she started as some celeb, like a celebrity TV beauty expert.
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Yeah.
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And she is on a mission to simplify skin education and make it accessible and empowering. Yeah.
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I think she has been a familiar face in the media for many women for a while and I love how she flipped the script in beauty, how she empowers women, you know, to be their most magnetic selves and she gives women permission to bring beauty in it and really, you know, make the connection of that. If you invest in your beauty, you can project it and you can show up better every day. And today we talked all about, you know, how she takes care of her skin. We talked about infrared light therapy, peptides, you know, everything, everything in between, all the unfiltered skincare opinions. So I think it's really, like, it's a great conversation to share.
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Yeah, I'm very excited for people to hear it. If you like what you heard and you want to give Yungoos products a shot. Yeah, you can head over, head out. Head over to yanggoose.com head towards. Head towards.
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Head forward.
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That too. Anyway, you can go to Young Use Code Podcast 10 to get 10% off your first order. And now, without further ado, please welcome Ms. Kennedy. First of all, Liz, welcome to Biohacking Beauty Podcast.
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Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.
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Yeah. I feel like we had a free podcast.
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Yes, we did.
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We did.
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As we usually do.
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Okay, I want to start. What I'm interested in personally is kind of. And I'm. And I'm known to not to ask, like, journey questions, but it's pretty interesting. How does one go from kind of being in front of the camera and being someone who explains beauty or trends in front of the camera to being interested in biohacking and kind of. Yeah. Being a proponent of kind of beauty and biohacking that does much more than just, like, cover other people's trends.
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Beauty and biohacking, for me, yeah. Has always been more than just products and science. It's your consciousness. It's how you're moving through your day, how you're eating, how you're speaking. And it's really a 360 approach. Everything I do isn't just physical and external aesthetics. It's also internal. Because in order to truly biohack and to truly age. Well, I hate the word anti aging. I think it's horrible. In order to age. Well, it's a accumulation of many things. And all the physical aspects of biohacking, to me, is just the cherry on top.
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Yeah, yeah, I agree. I think. I think the physical, for the most part, is trying to take advantage of a state that already happens in the body. Like, if your body is out of focus, out of alignment, it would be very difficult to. Most strategies would actually cause harm rather than good. Like, if you're trying to push your mitochondria when it's malfunctioning, you're probably going to get worse results. And we see that with people going to hyperbarics when they're not ready and things like that.
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Yeah, it's really. It's a 360 approach. And people are also biohacking without drawing their blood, seeing what's even appropriate for them, or they're doing all the biohacking things externally, but their consciousness is low. The way they speak, the way they present themselves in the world and how they interact with other people.
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They.
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That frequency is low. So you can do all the biohacking things you want, but if it's not 360, you're not really doing it right.
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So from like watching a lot of your content online, you. You talk a lot about magneticism and like being magnetic self and how that kind of helps you to project beauty as well. So how does really the two kind of, you know, define each other, you know, feed off of each other being magnetic and being beautiful? How it. Like, what is it to you?
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I realized when I had first moved to la, I was doing a lot of TV work, Steve Harvey, Access E News, as the beauty educator, if you will. And what I realized through the process was we were all talking about products and how they work and how to maximize efficacy and how to get rid of wrinkles or how to dye your hair. And I love all the science behind all that. But the most heartbreaking thing for me was being on the Steve Harvey show and giving all these women makeovers. But what was really happening backstage was healing, because externally we ended up giving them what they wanted, but internally they were felt damaged still. Which just goes to show that so many women are doing the right things externally, but they're not taking care of themselves at a soul level.
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And.
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And when you're starting to do the soul work, the tikkun olam and all the corrections that come in this lifetime, they go hand in hand. So for me, I always thought, okay, what is the disease and what's the cure to a 360 approach to beauty? Here's how to deal with consciousness daily, and here's how to elevate physically. You cannot have one without the other. And being magnetic is having all of.
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Sounds to me like every Buddhist type story, like, even like Kung Fu Panda, he comes to this little turtle and he's like, oh, I want to know to whatever, right? And the turtle's telling him, oh, that's not really like, if you want to be Kung Fu Panda, for that matter, I should have chosen them better. But you need to go through this long path, which is significantly more than learning how to kick or to punch. You need to correct, you know, embody now. 360 embodiment. Yeah, that's so that actually, yeah, it's something that you. That it's an ancient wisdom that we now need to always kind of reteach because people are always gravit, gravitated towards, you know, a. A simple fix, something that can turn around on a dime. We're not good at like cumulative changes.
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Correct. And what is external beauty? What is aesthetics? When the person inside is broken or full of fear, regret, shame? It's the classic story of walking into the room and there's a supermodel there, but you know that she's not confident, she feels shut down, she's in the corner. Versus the other woman who is so proud of herself and is taking care of herself at a three level approach. Mind, body, spirit, there's a significant difference because people can lie, but energy never lies. So as incredible as biohacking is, and the advantages are next level. What would also happen if we biohacked our consciousness? It's incredibly powerful to have the both. And when you do have the both, you can do anything you want.
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Yeah. And it really makes me think about the fact that, you know, I think since most of our listeners are women, a lot of women will agree with me sometimes, you know, you might didn't have time to do your hair and you maybe didn't do your makeup at all and you barely put your skincare, but you're in a good mood. You're like singing and, I don't know, everything goes your way and you're just so proud of yourself. You kind of like you're just in a good mood. And then people keep giving you compliments even if you don't feel like your most beautiful self. But I think it really, as you say, like when you're in a great state, you sort of like induce that what's called physiologically autofluorescence. So you actually glow. You have that skin glow that people, you know, just are so drawn to complement and it just feeds off of its, you know, you get the compliment and you feel even better. And like you said, it's, it's very little to do with external. Not to say that we shouldn't do it.
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External is very important. Very important. But not one without the other.
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Yeah. So with that, I have like a small question. I know that you were saying that, you know, traditional skincare is just not cutting it and you are doing a lot of, you know, you're blending, you know, this three part approach. Right. So our listeners always are looking for like actionable advice. And since we don't have the time for everything, you know, that you do, if you were to pinpoint like one habit that you think it's this internal kind of habit or practice that you do for yourself, but really shows up on your skin, you kind of like always see the correlation. If you do that, your skin looks better. Is there something like that that you could talk about?
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When it comes to taking care of myself physically, the gym always gives me that glow and makes me stronger physically and mentally. And you cannot live without an spf. There's no point in doing anything if you're not using sunscreen, especially with the way our ozone layer is broken down. SPF is critical. People always say, oh, you don't need spf. The sun's natural SPF has so many chemicals, one out of three Americans have skin cancer. And the ozone has changed. So you do have to protect yourself from environmental damage. And that environmental damage does something to us on a cellular level. Most people don't even know that physically putting your hands or feet on the ground recharges your neurons. That's why grounding is really beneficial, not just for women, but for children and for men, because you're actually gaining more positive energy. And all these things are things that we've kind of lost over time. And people always say, like, what are you doing every day? What's your routine? How do you eat? How do you do this? And I'm like, listen, I'm a modern woman. I work, I have a child, I have a social life. I don't really abide by the whole. Meditate for an hour, do self care for an hour, cook for an hour. Like, we are modern. We have to find what I call pockets of peace. I speak to the universe in my car. If I can go to the gym, I do a free YouTube workout. I make five to 10 minutes throughout my day so it doesn't feel time consuming and suffocating. It works into my schedule.
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Do you think, you know, Anastasia asked you about the one thing that you do most of what we're. I think 99% of what we're talking about in this podcast pertains to an action that then you go and do on your own. And I think a missing part of beauty alongside a lot of other wellness, wellness endeavors is the idea of belonging to a group or doing something as part of. As a community.
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Yes.
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Is that something that you feel a modern person also needs to go and seek because it becomes harder and harder to do.
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Absolutely. The importance of community, especially for women. Women need other women. I mean, we used to live in very tribal times where all women helped and elevated one another. And quite often I hear, well, men are more successful. This is just the case. And I'm like, well, no, men know how to help each other and they know how to use one another. Women if they were able to do that as well, help each other, elevate one another, share each other's stories, they'd aid. Realize that they're not alone. B, they'd have better routines, physically, mentally, and they'd have the community to rely on when it comes to family and children. And that's part of what I do. I love to create communities of women who are always looking to evolve physically, mentally, spiritually, because otherwise, what's the point? What's the point? You need community.
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I mean, honestly, for me, in my postpartum journey, I wouldn't be able to make it without women that showed up for me. And it was so interesting because there are certain women that, like, I've known them. They were my. I would say, distant friends, friends that I see a couple times a year, not even every month. And it's when I gave birth, they were there, like, they were there, like, every day with advice, like, on standby, and had so many questions. And as a. As foreigner, Samitiana, we don't have family here in the United States. So very isolated. Like, I. And now these are the women that are my closest friends because it's like, you know, the way they just really showed up. And it's not. Unfortunately, not everybody has that. So it's so great that you put women like this together. And, you know, with social media, everyone can have a community online. But it's so different when you see people in person.
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Human connection. AI could never replace human connection.
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And I heard. I don't know if you heard that. That women talking to each other like that practice. You know, right now, what's going really viral on Instagram is like, nervous system regulation and how can you moderate your cortisol? So actually, women talking to each other is one of the most efficient, like, cortisol leveling practices probably for us, better than this. Navy SEAL naps. You know, when they put your feet on the. On the wall, it might be better. Like, there's actually studies now about this. And it's so crazy because it's like, could be so accessible, but becomes so not accessible. Like, so little ones have.
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Yeah.
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That's why I do the events and seminars that I do, because what comes out of it quite often, you see a woman coming in alone, her shoulders are shrugged, she feels really down and out, and by the time she leaves, she feels like a completely different person. Something that I do, I workshop people a lot. And something that I love to do is I'll pick a woman in the crowd and. And I'll Ask her what. What's missing in your life that you feel is missing? Love, money, business, whatever it is. She'll respond and say, you know, I really want a family. I want my career to level up. And I'll kind of look at her and look a little confused. And I'll say to her, oh, that's interesting. I actually don't really see that for you. And one of two things happens. She either looks at me like I'm crazy, is like, no, that's for me. Or she says, yeah, maybe you're right, maybe it isn't. And then I make everyone stop for a second. I see what just happened. I'm a stranger. And this woman who's never met me allowed me to tell her what's appropriate for her. But she was just very confident about what she wanted. And this happens to women throughout our lives. We know we have that intuition of what we desire, and what we desire exists because you can't desire something that doesn't exist for you. And then we're allowing people that we don't even know to alter our decisions. So when it comes to biohacking, half of it is consciousness.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's so powerful.
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I love it. And I think, you know, talking about consciousness meditation, however you want to engage with this one, the, the, my biggest lesson from meditation is that the practice is not, you know, being in some Zen mode where you can observe every thought and, you know, and, and, and, and be in a kind of state. No, the, the actual practice is when you get out of it and your mind is racing and you're catching it and are able to kind of get into a better state. So it's almost like reps in the gym.
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Correct.
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And equating it to what you are saying about, you know, about structure, about going to a seminar, about having some, some sort of guidance is extremely important because the more you're trying to take on, you know, we're talking about beauty, the more, the more, you know, the, the more complex routine you' to do. And you are a mother and you have a career and you want to go to the gym and you want to, you know, inject your peptides every day and you want to take your supplements, you are going to slip. You're not going to be on it the entire time. And if you are, you're probably going to mentally slip because that's a lot to take. And if you don't have other people who are going on the same journey with you and they are in a different, you know, phase of that journey. Someone just picked themselves up. You, maybe you just picked yourself up. You see someone that just slipped, you know that's coming and that you're going to have to pick yourself up.
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Correct.
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I think that is the most. Not the most important because as you said, cortisol, there are many important facets, but that's an important facet of having a like minded community, if you will. Yeah.
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And to have that support to lean on one another. Why do Americans struggle so much compared to other countries when it comes to depression? They lack community and they lack that support. And obviously I love men. I think men are incredible. I was married to one. But I really love this space because when women realize that they're not alone in their thoughts, magic happens. And that's when the biohacking really happens. Because it's the rewiring of the brain, heart system. And when you can do that and then you're using great skincare and then you're using everything on top, everything becomes magical and every moment is an opportunity to experience a miracle. If you think that you can see miracles all the time, you will see miracles all the time. If you think you can't and you're isolated, you have no community, you have no one to rely on. That's what you're going to receive.
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Yeah, yeah.
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I think every com. Not every community, but a lot of the successful communities in the United States or a lot of the successful stereotype for a person in the United States could be traced back to some underlying habit of connecting to a community, which then, I mean, we see it a lot in the Jewish community. You see it a lot in the Jewish community where someone is going to go to a synagogue or to some Jewish gathering and is going to basically kind of plug themselves into what other people are doing right now that's successful for them or how they can kind of get assistance in their journey. And I am 100% positive it doesn't only exist in Jewish culture. It exists in many cultures that breed success. If you would.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And is now realizing that it was like it was that most of biohacking is actually, I don't want to say feminine in nature, but is. But is going to serve women as much, if not more than what is going to serve men, Whether it is, you know, sense of community consciousness or even, you know, taking care of. Of. Of. Of our wellness.
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Biohacking I do believe also started with the whole bigger, stronger, faster, better mentality. But women want in on that too. We're also very high performing and we also want to look and feel our best. And there's so many opportunities to do it within the biohacking space like we were talking about earlier. I mean, Korea has been doing these things for years. LA is really ahead of the game. Everything that's considered high tech is quite normal there. And the future is biohacking at a cellular level to ultimately have the most energy you possibly can, to be the most efficient, and to get the deepest sleep. And if you can have that, you're biohacking at a level that you wouldn't have been able to when our parents were our age.
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Yeah.
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They didn't have the tools. They didn't have any of the resources. So to be able to take advantage of that and incorporate into our everyday lives, women are taking advantage of it just as much as men.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. And I think a lot of thanks to women that were speaking up about the lack of research and the modalities created for men and like, you know, like, for example, like there was a boom about fasting and, you know, fasting wasn't really optimized for female hormones. But Then multiple people, one of them being Mindy. Dr. Mindy Pels, you know, wrote a book, Fast Like a Girl, specifically to help bring fasting to women. And I see those type of protocols and direction from women to women in all of biohacking modalities. So I agree with you that women have the tools now. We have the tools to take advantage of it. So a lot of the times, even though, you know, modern women, they took ownership of so many things, they feel empowered. There's still a lot of shame and stigma going on about aging and how women feel about aging. So since you host those type of retreats, how do you see conversation changing? Is it changing? And, like, what do you kind of do about it?
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You know, I'm in my 30s, and I've never felt or looked better in my life. I really believe aging is so different now. It's like a. It's like a fine wine. Like, as you age, you have so much more wisdom, more depth, you have more certainty. You know, what works for your body. It's all just about readjusting and seeing things and perceiving things differently. Because you have to remember everyone looks at life through their lens. So when you hear women constantly speaking about, or men constantly speaking about, oh, aging and gray hair, and this is. This is all that negativity can suffocate you, or you can choose to see the good every day. We can wake up and choose to see the negative or choose to see the good. And regardless, the present moment is here now. So whether you want to or not, you are aging. So why not look at it from a lens of positivity and see what you can gain from it?
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I love that. Yeah. And I think I remember when I turned 33, I had a realization that I met my favorite self. Like, I just. I just was so in love with myself and, like, for the first time. And, you know, sometimes I think women can look at another woman from the side and think she has everything going for her, and she's, like, always had it, you know, because sometimes you just win, like, a lottery and you have, you know, things that not everyone have just from birth, but the, like, there is so much depression among Hollywood stars that you would think they have really everything going for them, you know?
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Correct.
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So, yeah, now that I'm 35, I. I, like, I really relate to your message because every year moving by, like, get more and more comfortable with yourself. And it's a choice. Like, you could either do that or you could really think, like, oh, everything was better when I was younger and like, you know, I felt better because people are not helping optimize themselves. Like they're not in tune with their.
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And as we create, we speak right? And as we speak we create both ways. So when we're speaking about these things in a negative light, you'll just see more of it versus you're waking up and you're like, wow, I have another day to be able to create, to be able to, to learn, to grow. It's just how you perceive it.
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You know that's the word abracadabra. You know that it's, that's.
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Abracadabra means as you speak, you create.
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I didn't know. How do you both. Oh, okay.
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Yeah, yeah, it's, it's so powerful because as you create, as you speak, as you're doing everything, you are molding the world around you.
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Yeah, that's what I'm going to say from now on. I'm just going to say abracadabra.
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That's the truth.
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So here's my problem with, with our discussion until now. It really is very open ended. I mean it's very difficult for someone who is, who has no edu. No. No education or no formed habits to, to kind of rely on and increase. It's very daunting to start this journey.
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It is.
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You know, how do you meet those? Because I'm assuming you meet those people all the time or that, that these are the people that speak with you the most because they need the most amount of input. So how do you introduce your 360 modality vision into those people? How do you build them up? How does it, how does it normally go?
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This is why I love the power of social media. Because everything I post, it's free, right? That is a free value ad. That is my gift. That is my light 60 second sound bites of how to make your day a little bit better or how to change your life. That's what I always say. Like when you're moving through life, what, what light are you sharing with the rest of the world? We all have gifts. So what are you sharing? And if you can utilize social media, that's incredible because you're able to reach a lot of people. The other way I do it is via coaching. So I do coaching one on one. I do corporate coaching. There's so many ways to get through to women. But for me, social media has always been my favorite because I'm able to give free light. Yeah, it's free and it allows someone, at least one person to think A little bit differently. And isn't that the whole point of life? If you can even just get one person to perceive things a little differently, then you've won.
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Yeah, we actually had the discussion about it. So road got sold for a billion dollars. And a lot of people, some we know, some we don't have had a really hard time reconciling the fact that they have been, you know, managing a company in the beauty space for 20, 30 years and they didn't sell their company for a billion dollars. And someone wrote it was Beauty independent who shout out to Beauty Independence Independent our friends. Someone wrote an article saying, you know, it's very hard for me to reconcile that, like I, I have a 25 year old company, I'm barely on the X amount of target shelves or something like that and I know I'm never going to get to be a billion dollar salt company. And we had a discussion both on air but also off air about it where I'm saying we're a little bit indoctrinated that the volume of people that we've even touched once is the metrics of success. But really the company that I want to have, and I know Anastasia wants to have as well, is a company that has depth to the impact that it creates. And then we should measure ourselves in the depth of impact we can create, not by the volume of impact or people that we have lightly touched once.
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Right, Yeah. I actually just did a talk about this. I was at an event speaking about business, how I raised capital, how I did everything. And during COVID is when I had my son and I was doing my first raise of a million dollars, I just gave birth. I almost died giving birth. And everyone kept saying to me, how is it possible you've never raised capital before? How are you even gonna do this? We're in a pandemic. The economy is horrible. But my consciousness was, no, this is, this is what I'm going to do. I have certainty in it because I know I'm supposed to do this. The truth is there's always going to be people in your space doing better than you financially, physically, whatever it may be. And it brings me back to this book I read to my son. It's about a race car driver that had the worst car, didn't have proper painting. It looked like the not nice one out of all these fancy sexy race car drivers. And all These cars were 50 times nicer than his. At the end, he ended up putting headphones on and blockers around the car so he couldn't Focus on anyone else and he still won the race. And sure, it's a children's book, but these were the stories we were told growing up. And then as we aged, everyone said you need to live in reality. And that is the most horrendous thing you can say to someone when you're saying you should just live in reality or, oh, they sold for a billion and you didn't. What is reality? Because we create our reality. We are the creators of our reality. Everything is a mirror to us. So if you're focused on, they sold for a billion, they sold for 600 million. We've been working for 25 years. Why haven't we done it? Instead of focusing on the lack, focus on the good. And that's how you're going to attract more in. Will you sell for a billion? I don't know. I'm not God. Could you maybe. If you didn't, would you still be okay? Do you still feel like you shared what you wanted to? Because at the end of the day, she sold for a billion. But there's other areas in her life where she feels poor.
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Yeah, I, I agree. I agree. And I think this is, I'm sure.
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If we were to sit down with her and she were, to be honest.
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Yeah.
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There's areas in her life that she feels really.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Everyone is everyone. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. Anthony Robbins, like Tony Robbins, a long, long time ago, said that whatever you, you, you have success in, in life, that's what you ranked first in the things that you care about. So you can't rank everything first. You're always going to have things where you know they are not functioning the way that you want it to because. But really that's because you've directed your energy somewhere else. By the way, this could be you directing your energy towards lack. And then that's the first thing on your, on your real priority. And that's what you have.
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C
You're waking up and you're thinking of lack. She sold for a billion. Why didn't we. Yeah, she sold for a billion. That's amazing. That shows what everyone else can do, correct?
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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A
You know, talking about lack and the way that you wake up and energy. Do you remember we tried to instill it in people when we were, we were kind of building the first yunggoose routine and somehow it's. We never continued, but we used to really want people to have a kind of a consciousness journey.
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B
Affirmations.
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A
Affirmations around applying skincare in the morning.
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C
I love that.
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A
Is it something you how did it look?
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C
That's what I do. I really believe in finding pockets and moments of peace. Because for me, with my routine in the morning with my son, when I do have him, I have him 50% of the time. My ex husband has him 50% of time. So when I have my son, my routine looks different. So I'm tending more to him in the morning. But once I'm done with him, then I go back into mine or I wake up extra early, whatever the situation may be. But I find five to 10 minutes or all throughout my day to reground myself because I may not have an hour in full to take care of myself. I may only have five minutes here, 20 minutes here. But I always find those moments, I put my phone down, I stay really present. You just need to find the moments of peace.
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A
Yeah, I love it. It goes back to that, you know, that practice of getting in and out of hyper focus, or Zen moment, however you want to call it. That's the real, that's the real practice.
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C
That is the real practice. And what's really cool is the mind and the body don't know the difference from one another. So if you're putting on skincare and you're saying, I am magnetic, today will be powerful. I see miracles everywhere I go. At first it sounds silly, it sounds stupid, and you're like, why am I doing this? But then it becomes so routine. It's like a muscle. You train to go to the gym. So for me everything's, what can I kill two birds with one stone? If I'm doing my skincare, I'm looking in the mirror and I'm looking at myself in the eye and I'm saying these affirmations and I'm saying it until I feel it. And if you don't feel it, just keep saying it. And then the mind and the body don't know the difference and then you just start to live as if you are her.
- [35:59]
B
Yeah, I love that. And it is very powerful. And we, we do still have it like as a part of our messaging on Instagram. But I hope I, I'm so happy that people get to hear it again. And from you, from like the OG of training the consciousness and kind of like training yourself to show up like this to the world, you have to.
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C
Do it for yourself. And again, if you don't believe it as you're saying it, just keep saying it because eventually, even if you don't, no, you're, you're speaking the words and words are spells. It's why? It's called spelling. So as you're spelling all day long, that's what you're creating. And even when you have the negative thoughts, sometimes when I'm moving through my day and I have a negative thought, totally normal. But what's interesting is the more spiritual you become, the actual more of a challenge it becomes. But then it becomes fun. You're like, oh, what was that test? Why did that come in? What's this? Because if you want to evolve, you're constantly be giving tests. And if you want to evolve mentally, spiritually, physically, you have to act like that person, embody that person every single moment. So when you're getting tested, you're getting reactive. Pull back, recalibrate. Pull back, recalibrate. Speak in the mirror. Retune. It's just. It's working a muscle.
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B
I love that. I was going to bring it a little bit back to the Biohacking Beauty. That's the name of the show.
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C
Yes.
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B
And to talk about, since we know, you know, how much of a biohacker you are, and we talked off camera that, you know, to us, the word biohacking, it's like just the words, you know, that does not carry the same exact meaning as it is sometimes in the media. But you already mentioned that you've seen kind of like you've lived in areas where the wellness is more evolved than it is, like, for the average listener from this podcast. So are there any kind of wellness or skincare trends that you're very excited about that they're emerging in the next five to 10 years that can like, really redefine of how we think about beauty and skincare?
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C
I'll say what I'm doing now, which is really has been a game changer for me, injecting myself at home with Peptides, Nad, Sirmolean, my globeptide, which has copper. What's really fascinating is you don't have to go to an office anymore and get the nurse to inject you. You can do this at home. And at first it feels strange, and then it becomes very normal. That has given me incredible amounts of energy, as if I'm 27 again. So that has been a massive game changer for me. Also, shower filters. I saw that you guys worked with Leah Filter baby. I consulted for them. I love filter Baby filters for shower heads. That's biohacking because our water's not clean and our systems are not clean, unfortunately. So nuanced things that you're doing every single day. Tongue scraping is considered biohacking to me. It's not. It's just normal.
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B
It's the hygiene.
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C
It's. It's just hygiene. Red light therapy is something. Again, I like to kill two birds with one stone type of situation. If I'm reading, I'm doing light therapy, acupuncture mats. When I'm meditating, I lay down on that so it hits my back while I'm also meditating. There's so many things I do throughout the day that are just so normal for me. And if you as the listener can get into the mindset of constantly speaking to the universe while you're in the car driving, doing the acupuncture while you're meditating, putting on your skincare while doing affirmations, everything that's kind of twofold. Physical, mental, physical, mental. And if you're doing that all day, that is biohacking.
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B
Yeah, I love that.
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A
Talk a little bit more about the globe peptide that you. You talked about. What's. What's in it.
- [39:35]
B
Yes.
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C
So it's a cocktail of copper peptides, and it makes me glow. It just really makes me glow. Injecting myself with peptides, even though NAD is not a peptide, I just group it all together. But injections have completely changed the game for me. And I know some people get freaked out with needles, but wow, if you can get over that. Game changer.
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A
Yeah. Do you believe in, like, taking breaks or are you trying to inject yourself as much as possible? Or you.
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C
If I can do it every day, which I do, that's. Obviously it's. You know, your doctor would always let you know what's appropriate for what's not, but. Yeah, every single day. Every single day, with my coffee prayers, I give myself an ample amount of time to. To slowly get into my routine. And if with my son, it's not as slow, but I always make time for myself because if I don't, I don't really like how I'm moving throughout my day. I just don't like the way I'm moving.
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A
Yeah, I've gone back to injecting myself with NAD recently because, you know, I've been taking NAD precursors. We are obviously like the kind of the go to companies for topical nad, so I didn't feel the need for injections for. For a while, but, boy, do these work. It's crazy.
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C
It's crazy.
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B
It works.
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A
Yeah.
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C
For the energy alone, you know, the energy alone, it's worth it.
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A
Yes. Energy alone and energy, you know, I. Here's the thing. The energy that we feel are normally from what are called catholicolamines are from molecules that energize the brain, which is very nice. But most of the energy in our body, we have no idea how it's functioning unless obviously testing our body, going to the gym, etc. But what I love about NAD is that is there are areas that you weren't aware that they're low energy. Some people, it's going to be their glow. For me, for example, it was like a nagging injury that just went away when I started, you know, when I went back to injecting nad. So we're not even aware of lack of energy, a lot of time in our body.
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C
Correct. We don't even know it's also, you know, the food that we eat. Even if it's quote unquote organic, half the times it isn't.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Right. So anything that you can do to reduce inflammation as well is biohacking. Yeah, anything you can do to reduce inflammation. And injectables do reduce inflammation and there's certain foods that reduce inflammation. And again, it's just really everything you're doing, doing it intentionally, from physically to mentally, it makes the world of a difference. And it's not about doing this for hours and periods of time, it's about finding those five minutes throughout your day.
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A
Since you are meeting a lot of people who are in different phases of their journey, what is your experience with what are called skinny shots or GLP1s? How do you feel it changed a lot, the discussion around health. When people are talking with you, how do you experience that tectonic shift in wellness and in health?
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C
GLP1 for me, if it's used correctly, I'm not against it because it does reduce inflammation. But unfortunately in la, a lot of women abused it to just lose weight. And you can lose the weight, but at the core there is no cheap, fast solution. So if you're using it just to constantly drop weight, but you're still eating whatever you want, or once you get off of it, you're going to be back on your same routine, then it's actually going to do more damage than good because you're just looking for a quick fix. There is no quick fix in life. There is none. It does not exist. It's accumulation of everything that you're doing and GLP1s, it's appropriate if someone really genuinely needs it. But quite often what I'm seeing coming from LA was quite the contrary. There's a time and a place for everything, in my opinion, and it does work and it does reduce Inflammation. It does help you drop the weight. But what are you going to do once that band aid's gone? It's like when some of my clients are on antidepressants, I'm like, well, it's just a band aid. Because the second you get off that antidepressant, you still haven't dealt with the wound. The wound is there. You're just band aiding it. It's a band aid.
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B
Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
- [44:01]
C
We can't be using band aids anymore. We're in a modern age. We don't need band aids.
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A
Yeah.
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C
There's so many solutions.
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A
And I do agree with you about inflammation. Like, the cool thing about what most people don't know, that most effective anti aging peptides actually started as an attempt to create a weight loss peptide. Like most of the, you know, whatever, whatever. Like moths see, or probably going to think of a few more. But like 5amino 1 mq, a lot of the popular peptides, like the Hollywood peptides now.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Started as a way to try to create what a GLP one has actually done.
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C
Yeah.
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A
So it's not surprising that we're finding that in micro doses, GLPs are actually really effective as conduits to, you know, a healthier body, whether it's lowering inflammation or other.
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C
I like the concept of microdosing GLP1, especially if it helps you stay on track. I love the microdosing of NAD GLP1. Yeah. Injections are incredible. It's changed my life.
- [45:04]
B
Yeah, absolutely.
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A
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B
Okay, so we usually like to close the interview with like lightning round, like a rapid fire questions. Okay, so red light or cold blanche?
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C
I don't like cold plunge for women. Red light. Okay.
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A
Okay. Not even at like 50, 60 degrees. You're like, don't.
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C
I think it's too shocking.
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A
Okay, okay.
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B
If there is time for only one skincare item, such as like serum cleanser, moisturizer. Which one? Just only one. You don't have time.
- [47:05]
C
Spf. Yeah, always spf.
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B
I love it. And I know I supposed to keep going with the rapid fire questions, but I just want to take a moment and say thank you. Thank you for sharing that because unfortunately in our very own biohacking community there's just so much misinformation and I'm scared. I'm scared for all of men and women that right now are in a camp of like, I'm just going to build a tolerance to sun. Yeah. And I'm just not going to put SPF on my body. And they go to various lengths, you know, to try and improve.
- [47:38]
C
That is not the same as it was even 30 years ago. It's not the same.
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A
It's much, it's much more than that. It's like we're not designed to live forever. If we want to have anything look good forever. You're gonna have to do things that are not, that are not completely. I don't want to say not completely natural, but that are not hardwired into your body directly. You're going to have to kind of upgrade it if you would.
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C
It's like maintaining a home. Would you keep a home the same way for 50 years? No. You have to repair things.
- [48:14]
A
Yes, exactly.
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C
And you have to protect it.
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B
Yeah. Okay, so you mentioned that you don't like the word anti aging. So the question that we had was aging gracefully or aging disruptively?
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A
Both. Why not? Yeah.
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C
Why not?
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B
Yeah. I love that. Okay, so since you mentioned you, you know you have like a regimen of peptides and nad. If you had to identify a favorite one for your skin, would it be like collagen and ad or spermidine for.
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C
The injectables.
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A
Or oral, Your favorite molecule for skin appearance.
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B
Longevity. Yeah. And appearance.
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C
I hate the question. Peptides.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Okay. Okay, okay, okay.
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C
It's such a hard one.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
Okay. One biohack that you think is overrated. I mean, you could say cold plunge.
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C
Again, but I do think it's cold plunge. Yeah, I've done cold plunge. I. I would do it again. But for me, I think it's so shocking and so disruptive and I think women are meant to. To stay more stable and not shock their systems. We already have enough things shocking our systems.
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A
Well, to. To your point, I think I just had a podcast with Eli which is a saliva cortisol test.
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C
Okay.
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A
That you can test your cortisol like two, three times a day.
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C
Wow.
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A
Really cool. And I think this is the missing link for pushing the envelope within the context of women's biohacking. Because a lot of the time, not only that is it is individual. You don't know where. How it affects you in different times of your menstrual cycle.
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C
That part.
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A
You don't know how it affects you if you're doing hormone replacement therapy. Because now you're different than how it affected you before you did that.
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C
Correct.
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A
You don't. There are so many.
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C
I still think water therapy is very healing. Water is so healing on so many different levels. But cold plunges, it's. It's so shocking.
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A
Yeah, I agree. I think you would need to be a person that measures very well for you to understand if it's good for you and how is it good for you especially. Yeah, especially for women.
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C
That's why testing is really important. People kind of just go into things or eat a certain way without realizing that they should test their blood and see what's appropriate. What's good for me is not good for you. What's good for you might not be good for her. You need to know what your body is made of. And things like Prinovo, the scans from Ponovo, those are life changing. You know what's going on internally. Yeah, you need to know what's going on.
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B
And I also think, like to add a discussion about cold plunging. I think it could be appropriate for people that are really in tune with their bodies and they can really assess because I have. So for me personally, when I tried, I didn't want to do cold plunging. Actually, I really insisted that I try. And we were with friends who got a really cool cold plunge and they really needed support to do it regularly because they're very invested and they bought the most expensive one. They dropped 20 or 30k on their cold plunge. So we were like, okay, let's do it. And I just, I have seen Amitai and the couple that we're friends with just suffering like, you know, every time we come to their home and which at the time was like three times a week. And they're like suffering for even though it's just a couple of minutes. They're like. And I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to suffer. I don't want to do it for myself. So I was like staying away from it for as long as I could. And then, you know, I give in to peer pressure. And then for me, which I did not know it's gonna happen, I, the fact that like I come, I, I was born more north of the Arctic Circle. So I, I think I just like have something in my DNA to withstand cold. So I was able to master it like really fast, really well.
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A
We were screaming at her to get out.
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C
And she was just relaxed.
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A
Like after like five, six minutes in, she's like, all right.
- [52:06]
C
She's like, I'm fine.
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A
I was like, get out.
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B
And I did not expect it to for me at all. But what also was like a long time goal of mine is to master breathing techniques, but I wasn't disciplined enough to do it on my own. We went to a couple of like different breathing workshops and I've done it, but I've never been consistent. But here for the cold plunge because I was so scared of how I'm going to deal with it. I actually was doing the Wim Hof breathing method and like the Brooks breathing and some other techniques. And so for me it was just cool to say that a, I can handle it. And I have that ability to talk to my body to like convince myself, you know, that I'm fine and like master that physiology. And I really give a lot of credit to this practice for then being able to give natural birth just because I like it prepared me.
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C
I love that, that makes sense because you could withstand the pain from that. So natural birth for you, you're like, I'm fine. I put my body through something that was rather extreme, so I can handle it.
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B
Yeah, I mean, I didn't go back to it. Since giving birth, our son, it's gonna be two years. I keep like waiting for a sign that I wanna do it again. So it's not like I'm back to it, but like, I, I, I'm grateful for what it taught me and what it gave me. And I do have some friends, very few female friends that are like, oh, I wish you had a cold plunge again. Because at some point we did have it at our home. Yeah, it broke and they're like, I miss the, the, the clarity that I, you know, was able to get when I was doing it. I, I don't actually don't miss any of that. I don't. Don't feel like it gave me so much clarity or any other benefit except knowing that I can master my state.
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C
Beautiful.
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B
So I think it's like.
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C
And it gave you that? Yeah, for me, it definitely gave me breathing techniques, for sure. Like the way we tell our kids, right? Like, breathe in through your nose, out through your mouth. How many times do we remind ourselves to do that? So cold plunging does allow you to take you back to that breath work because you're in agony, so you need to use your breath to stay calm. Yeah, that's a very powerful part of it. But other than that, I don't like what it does to my body. I think it's very shocking and very jarring for me.
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A
Yeah, I think it's definitely overhyped.
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C
I think so, too.
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A
And now we need to find what is it really good for? Who is it really good for instead of everyone. To be honest, it's really cool, like, to know you're a person that can just get into, you know, below freezing water kind of, obviously whenever you want and just withstand it. It's a cool thing. It's a good badge of honor. But the question is now, how do we use it as a tool and not as a. Again, not as a badge of honor?
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C
Agreed. An Instagram moment.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And speak from the call tab. Like, some people.
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B
Oh, so many people. That's so mainstream these days. That's actually one of the biohacking modalities that made it. And it's so mainstream right now.
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A
Yeah, that's. I mean, I can go on and.
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C
On, but I feel like I love it.
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B
I mean, thank you so much for making the time. Thank you for driving to us.
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C
We love biohacking. Children, Life, motherhood, everything.
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A
Breathing. We love breathing. Yeah. Okay. Liz, thank you very much. We appreciate you.
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B
Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for coming by.