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Bitcoin Magazine Podcast
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The Bitcoin Magazine Podcast is on a mission to stay on top of what's happening with everything Bitcoin, guiding listeners through the major stories shaping the price, philosophy and community around the financial revolution. The show will also feature brief interviews from leading experts in the space.
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Investment Banker Christian Lopez: Why EVERY Balance Sheet Will Hold BTC | Bitcoin for Corporations
Sep 22Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Bitcoin For Corporations, host Pierre Rochard sits down with Christian Lopez, Managing Director at Cohen and Company Capital Markets, to explore the future of bitcoin treasury companies. Lopez explains why NOT holding bitcoin is becoming “irresponsible” for corporate treasurers, how inflation erodes fiat reserves, and why Strategy's 'strategy' has reshaped the corporate finance playbook.🔶 Connect with Christian Lopez on X: https://x.com/ChristianL_opez🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations: https://b.tc/corporations🔶 Follow Bitcoin for Corporations on X: https://x.com/BitcoinForCorpsChapters:00:00 - Introduction03:49 - Corporate and Institutional Bitcoin Adoption Landscape10:40 - Different Corporate Strategies for Bitcoin Treasury Management22:33 - PIPE Transactions and Convertible Notes Explained28:23 - Investor Relations 2.030:07 - Impact of Financial Products on Bitcoin Market Volatility32:17 - Factors Influencing mNAV and Market Correlations35:44 - Bitcoin's Four-Year Cycle and Capital Flow Dynamics38:28 - Competition and Overlap Between Bitcoin and AI/HPC Capital40:46 - Macro Economic Factors Affecting Bitcoin and Inflation42:55 - Passive Flows: S&P 500 Inclusion Outlook48:26 - Is Leverage A Concern?50:04 - Institutional Bitcoin Custody Standards51:49 - Asset Management Strategies: Cold Storage vs. Yield Generation56:47 - DCFs on a BTC Standard: Impact on Real Estate, Technology Investing, and Debt Markets57:42 - International Bitcoin Treasury Opportunities and Market Arbitrage60:20 - Closing Remarks#BitcoinTreasury #BitcoinforCorporations #investmentbanking #BTC #MSTR #Markets #ChristianLopez #PierreRochard #BitcoinMagazine #CoehnandCompanyDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
Transcribe →How the Company Securing $100B in Bitcoin Protects It | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 12
Aug 18Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Bitcoin for Corporations, host Pierre Rochard is joined by Mike Belshe, CEO of BitGo. Mike shares his journey from Netscape and Google to pioneering Bitcoin custody solutions. They discuss the evolution of multi-sig, fiduciary duty, cold storage, and how institutions protect billions in Bitcoin. Belshe explains why proof of reserves and market structure matter for Bitcoin’s future. This is a must-watch for anyone serious about Bitcoin security.🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre🔶 Connect with Mike Belshe on X: https://x.com/mikebelshe00:00 - Introduction and Context on Bitcoin Custody01:56 - Mike Belshie's Background and Early Bitcoin Experience06:09 - Discovery of Multisig and Founding BitGo09:00 - Entrepreneurial Drive and Early Development of BitGo10:49 - BitGo's Growth and Custody Philosophy13:15 - The Importance of Custody for Businesses and Institutions15:21 - Key Custody Criteria and BitGo's Differentiators16:55 - BitGo's Cold Storage and Security Measures19:23 - Operational Controls and Industry Examples of Failures21:17 - Insurance, Risk Management, and Wallet Segmentation23:01 - Multisig vs MPC and Security Protocols24:46 - Importance of Two-of-Three Multisig and Custody Quorum Decisions26:59 - Public vs Private Company Custody Requirements29:17 - Qualified Custodian Definition and BitGo's Global Custody Network32:18 - Multi-Jurisdictional Custody Benefits and Regulatory Alignment33:40 - BitGo's Custody Services Beyond Storage: Staking and Settlement36:45 - Fiat Custody and Regional Banking Integration38:19 - Transparency, Proof of Reserves, and Market Structure Needs41:26 - Future of Banking and Lending in Digital Assets42:29 - Lessons from Past Lending Crises and Current Market Outlook44:54 - Nation State Bitcoin Custody and Government Challenges48:33 - Big Tech and Bitcoin Adoption Challenges52:40 - Innovation Barriers and Political Considerations in Tech Adoption53:31 - Closing Remarks and Future Outlook on Bitcoin InnovationDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.#Bitcoin #BitcoinForCorporations #MikeBelshe #PierreRochard #BitGo #BitcoinCustody #BitcoinSecurity #ColdStorage #MultiSig #MPC #BitcoinTreasury #BitcoinInstitutions #FiduciaryDuty #ProofOfReserves #QualifiedCustodian #BitcoinAdoption #BitcoinInfrastructure
Transcribe →Is Strategy Becoming the Central Bank of the Future? | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 11
Aug 15, 2025Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show, Pierre Rochard and Spencer Nichols unpack Strategy’s Q2 earnings: FASB’s mark-to-market EPS, perpetual preferreds (“stretch/stride/strike/strife”), ATM/MAV guidance, and the idea that Strategy could scale from ~4% to ~8% of outstanding bitcoin. They also dig into bitcoin-as-collateral, reflexivity, and treasury risk management.🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre🔶 Connect with Spencer Nichols on X: https://x.com/DeSpencer_00:00 - Introduction and Context of the Episode01:09 - Significance of Strategy's Earnings Call and Bitcoin Accounting Changes05:59 - Importance of Investor Relations in Bitcoin Treasury Companies10:54 - Capital Flow and Bitcoin Treasury Market Dynamics11:22 - Overview of Strategy's Yield Curve and Credit Instruments14:53 - Comparison of Strategy's Model to Central Banking and Commercial Banking19:50 - Market Reception and Scale of Strategy's Offerings24:34 - Distribution Channels and Challenges for Bitcoin Treasury Products28:32 - Marketing and Trust in Bitcoin Treasury Securities30:11 - Macro Perspective on Strategy's Role and Bitcoin Treasury Competition35:47 - Potential Macroeconomic Impact and Competition with Traditional Credit Markets40:14 - Risks of Altcoin Treasury Models Compared to Bitcoin41:50 - Risk Pricing and Market Perception of Bitcoin and Other Collateral45:36 - Discussion on Bitcoin's Drawdown Risk and Capital Structure Resilience45:36 - Final Thoughts on Earnings Per Share, S&P 500 Inclusion, and Future OutlookDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.#MSTR #CorporateBitcoin #Strategy #PerpetualPreferred #YieldCurve #InvestorRelations #FASB #EPS #ATM #MAV #SNP500 #BitcoinCollateral #BTCStrategy #MoonMath #MicroStrategy #StrategyEarnings #bitcoinmagazine #bitcoin #bitcoinforcorporations
Transcribe →How to Value a Bitcoin Treasury Company w/ MSTR CEO Phong Le | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 8
Jul 10, 2025Tap to summarizeHow do you value a Bitcoin-native corporation? In this exclusive episode of Bitcoin for Corporations, MicroStrategy CEO Phong Le explains how Bitcoin transforms corporate finance—and why MSTR is more than just a software company.Phong breaks down the strategic evolution of MicroStrategy into a Bitcoin treasury leader, the rise of Bitcoin-backed capital markets, and how to understand NAV multiples for Bitcoin equities. He also details how preferred securities like STRF are opening Bitcoin access to institutions and retirees alike. This is the definitive guide to Bitcoin balance sheet strategy, capital structuring, and corporate valuation in the age of digital hard money.⭐ This episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show is sponsored by Ledn, a leading provider of Bitcoin-backed loans.👉 Visit their website at https://www.ledn.io/ to learn more!00:00 – Intro: How to Value a Bitcoin Treasury Company01:28 – Phong Le on MicroStrategy’s Bitcoin Thesis04:45 – Why MSTR Isn’t Just a Tech Stock Anymore08:12 – The Role of FASB Accounting in Bitcoin Adoption11:39 – Capital Markets: Equity, Debt & Bitcoin15:20 – Convertible Bonds & Leveraged Bitcoin Exposure19:05 – What Investors Miss When Valuing MSTR23:34 – How Institutions View Bitcoin on the Balance Sheet27:48 – Risks, Volatility, and Shareholder Expectations32:15 – Bitcoin’s Role in Long-Term Corporate Strategy36:20 – Advice for Other Bitcoin Treasury Companies39:12 – Building a Bitcoin-Backed Capital Market43:10 – Addressing Bitcoin Volatility in Financial Products46:00 – Why STRF Is Gaining Market Traction48:30 – Final Thoughts from Phong Le🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations and join our Network: https://b.tc/corporations🔶 Connect with Phong Le on X: https://x.com/digitalphong🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierreDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.#BitcoinTreasury #PhongLe #MicroStrategy #BitcoinEquities #MSTRStock #BitcoinPreferredShares #BitcoinCapitalMarkets #BitcoinForCorporations #BitcoinAccounting #DigitalAssets
Transcribe →Jesse Myers: BTC Treasury Companies Will Dominate Every Capital Market | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 7
Jul 7, 2025Tap to summarizeWhy are corporations turning to Bitcoin as a strategic asset—and how will Bitcoin treasury companies reshape the financial system over the next 20 years?In episode 7 of the Bitcoin for Corporations, host Pierre Rochard sits down with Jesse Myers, Bitcoin Strategy Advisor at UTXO Management (a sister company of Bitcoin Magazine), to break down the emerging playbook behind Bitcoin treasury companies like MicroStrategy, MetaPlanet, and Smarter Web. From intelligent leverage to the rise of perpetual preferreds, Jesse shares why these firms may soon rival sovereigns in BTC holdings—and why institutional capital is now pouring in.Whether you're a corporate CFO, a macro investor, or a Bitcoiner curious about the next big shift in capital markets, this deep-dive unpacks how Bitcoin-native financial infrastructure is being built in real time.⭐ This episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show is sponsored by Ledn, a leading provider of Bitcoin-backed loans.👉 Visit their website at https://www.ledn.io/ to learn more!Chapters:0:00 - The Bitcoin treasury company model1:20 - Jesse Myers' Bitcoin origin story4:30 - Keynesian education vs. Bitcoin adoption9:00 - Why institutions were late to Bitcoin12:00 - What separates MicroStrategy and MetaPlanet16:00 - Corporate adoption tipping point20:30 - Why Bitcoin is better than bonds24:00 - Equity issuance vs. leverage27:00 - Fair value accounting and balance sheet strength30:00 - Why premium NAVs make sense35:00 - The endgame: perpetual preferreds38:00 - Competing with MicroStrategy42:00 - Capital markets tools only accessible to corporations45:00 - Global race for Bitcoin treasury dominance48:00 - The future of Bitcoin-native financial infrastructure🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations and join our Network: https://b.tc/corporations🔶 Connect with Jesse Myers on X: https://x.com/Croesus_BTC🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierreDISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
Transcribe →Alex Thorn: The "Great Filter" Coming for BTC Treasury Companies | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 6
Jun 30, 2025Tap to summarizeIn episode 6 of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show, Pierre Rochard sits down with Alex Thorn, Head of Research at Galaxy Digital, for a wide-ranging and high-signal discussion on the emerging wave of Bitcoin treasury strategy companies.Thorn breaks down the mechanics of Strategy's (formerly MicroStrategy) success, the role of financial engineering, and how Michael Saylor created a model that's difficult—if not impossible—for others to replicate. He introduces the concept of a "great filter" facing the next generation of Bitcoin-focused public companies: only a few will pass through it.⭐ This episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show is sponsored by Ledn, a leading provider of Bitcoin-backed loans.👉 Visit their website at https://www.ledn.io/ to learn more!Chapters:00:00 – Pierre Rochard & Alex Thorn at the BPI Summit01:45 – From MicroStrategy to MetaPlanet: Bitcoin treasury strategies emerge04:10 – Shareholder value, buybacks, and Bitcoin: shifting capital allocation06:00 – Why miners are becoming treasury companies09:00 – Financial engineering behind Sailor’s success11:00 – Can others replicate MicroStrategy’s playbook?12:30 – The coming saturation of corporate Bitcoin strategies14:00 – Why Bitcoin is unlike any commodity15:30 – IPO window and reverse mergers for crypto firms16:15 – Where we are in the 2025 Bitcoin market cycle17:30 – Why long-term holders are anchoring this cycle21:15 – Final thoughts: retail is still sleeping on Bitcoin🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations and join our Network: https://b.tc/corporations🔶 Connect with Alex Thorn on X: https://x.com/intangiblecoins🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre#Bitcoin #AlexThorn #BitcoinforCorporations #Markets #Investing #PierreRochard #Saylor #BitcoinTreasury #MicroStrategy #btcetf #GalaxyDigital #MSTR #CryptoFinance #corporatebitcoin DISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
Transcribe →Insurance Insider: "Inevitable" That BTC Becomes a Fiduciary Duty | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 5
Jun 18, 2025Tap to summarizeOn Episode 5 of The Bitcoin for Corporations Show, Pierre Rochard is joined by Garrett Johnston of Marsh to explore how Bitcoin can radically transform the insurance industry. From the trillions in insurance float to the fiduciary risks of ignoring Bitcoin, this episode uncovers the hidden forces shaping treasury strategy, litigation risk, and D&O coverage in the age of BTC.Garrett breaks down the disconnect between Bitcoin-native firms and traditional insurance carriers, and explains why a failure to adopt Bitcoin may soon be seen as a breach of fiduciary duty. Essential viewing for corporate leaders, CFOs, risk managers, and Bitcoin-aligned executives.Chapters:00:00:00 Fiduciary Duty & Bitcoin 00:04:30 Garrett’s Insurance Journey 00:09:00 Bitcoin’s Disconnect with Insurance 00:13:30 Institutional Misunderstanding of BTC 00:18:00 Insurance Float & Melting Ice Cubes 00:22:30 Litigation and Inflation Risks 00:27:00 Bitcoin's Role in Corporate Risk 00:31:30 Misconceptions about BTC & FTX 00:36:00 MicroStrategy’s Legal Landscape00:40:30 Future of Governance & Communication 🔶 Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations and join our Network: https://b.tc/corporations🔶 Connect with Garrett Johnston on X: https://x.com/garrettoj🔶 Connect with Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierre⭐ This episode of the Bitcoin for Corporations Show is sponsored by LEDN, a leading provider of Bitcoin-backed loans.👉 Visit their website at https://www.ledn.io/ to learn more!#BitcoinForCorporations #BitcoinTreasury #BTC #CorporateBitcoin #BitcoinInsurance #BitcoinStrategy #PierreRochard #GarrettJohnston #Strategy #MSTR #DNOInsurance #Legal #Insurance #BitcoinAdoption #bitcoinmagazine DISCLAIMER: The views and opinions expressed in this show are those of the participants and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of BTC Inc., Bitcoin Magazine, Bitcoin for Corporations, or any affiliated entities. This content is provided for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as investment, legal, tax, or accounting advice. Nothing contained in this show constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer to buy or sell any securities or financial instruments. Viewers should consult their own advisors before making financial or business decisions.
Transcribe →Bitcoin: The Corporate Finance Revolution w/ Pierre Rochard | Bitcoin for Corporations Ep. 1
May 16, 2025Tap to summarizeIn this premiere episode of The Bitcoin for Corporations Show, host Pierre Rochard, CEO of the Bitcoin Bond Company, explains how Bitcoin is transforming modern corporate finance.Coming off the heels of the landmark Bitcoin for Corporations 2025 event co-hosted by Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy), this episode delivers a masterclass on why Bitcoin is being adopted by leading firms around the globe—from Japan’s Metaplanet to America's fastest-growing Bitcoin treasuries.We explore the corporate Bitcoin flywheel, examine the MSTR strategy, and analyze global adoption trends including sovereign wealth funds and newly public firms like 21, Strive, and Nakamoto.Whether you're a CFO, institutional allocator, or strategist, this show is your front-row seat to the future of finance.Chapters:00:00 – Intro: The Speculative Attack Thesis01:00 – Meet Your Host: Pierre Rochard02:45 – Challenges Facing CFOs Today05:00 – Bitcoin as a Balance Sheet Solution09:30 – Bitcoin’s Monetary Policy & Technical Reliability17:00 – Structuring Financial Products Around Bitcoin24:00 – Bitcoin vs. Gold, Real Estate & Global Assets28:00 – Corporate Demand is Outpacing Bitcoin’s Supply29:30 – Strategy’s Convertible Bond Model39:00 – The Corporate Bitcoin Adoption Flywheel42:00 – Global Case Studies: Metaplanet, Blockchain Group, 21, Strive, Nakamoto45:30 – What’s Next: Guests, Metrics, and the Road AheadFollow Pierre Rochard on X: https://x.com/BitcoinPierreFollow Bitcoin for Corporations on X: https://x.com/BitcoinForCorpsFollow Spencer Nichols on X: https://x.com/DeSpencer_👉 Subscribe for weekly episodes featuring top executives, policymakers, and fund managers reshaping balance sheets with Bitcoin.🔗 Learn more at: https://b.tc/corporations🟠 JOIN US for the Bitcoin for Corporations Symposium at Bitcoin 2025 May 27th in Las Vegas, NV!👉 https://tickets.b.tc/event/bitcoin-2025Read more about "The Bitcoin for Corporations Show" in Bitcoin Magazine: https://bitcoinmagazine.com/news/bitcoin-magazine-launches-the-bitcoin-for-corporations-show-hosted-by-pierre-rochard-ceo-of-the-bitcoin-bond-company#BitcoinForCorporations #CorporateFinance #PierreRochard #BitcoinTreasury #MicroStrategy #Metaplanet #BitcoinETF #ConvertibleBonds #InstitutionalBitcoin #BitcoinVolatility #BitcoinCapitalMarkets #BitcoinMagazine #BitcoinStrategy #CFOInsights #MSTR #BitcoinAdoption #BitcoinShow #CryptoFinance
Transcribe →Michael Saylor Bitcoin for Corporations 2025 Keynote Speech
May 7, 2025Tap to summarizeMichael Saylor, Executive Chairman of Strategy, delivers a landmark keynote at Bitcoin for Corporations 2025. In “The Case for Corporate Bitcoin Adoption,” Saylor makes the argument that Bitcoin is not just an asset—but the Apex capital strategy for companies seeking long-term growth, durability, and relevance in the AI age.With data-backed comparisons against the Magnificent Seven, sovereign bonds, and gold, Saylor lays out why corporate treasuries are structurally failing—and how Bitcoin offers a way out. Whether you're a CFO, CEO, or institutional investor, this talk will challenge your assumptions about capital allocation and the future of digital money.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction02:15 - Why Corporations Should Consider Bitcoin04:10 - The Magnificent Seven vs. Everyone Else06:30 - Zombie Companies and the Collapse of Public Equity09:10 - The Exclusionary Nature of Capital Markets12:00 - Volatility, Liquidity, and the Illusion of Safety16:00 - Why AI Is Not a Sufficient Strategy25:15 - Capital vs. Currency35:25 - The $26 Billion Result of Saylor’s Strategy38:00 - Why the Capital Markets Reward Courage40:20 - How Bitcoin-Backed Bonds Beat the Market49:15 - Saylor’s Pitch to Microsoft’s Board59:30 - The Bitcoin Merger That Any Company Can Do#MichaelSaylor #BitcoinForCorporations #CorporateBitcoin #NatalieBrunell #BitcoinAdoption #MicroStrategy #BitcoinKeynote #DigitalCapital #BitcoinStrategy #BFC2025
Transcribe →1723.HK: The MicroStrategy of Hong Kong w/ CEO John Riggins
Mar 24, 2025Tap to summarizeJohn Riggins, CEO of HK Asia Holdings Limited (1723.HK), joins Bitcoin for Corporations on Bitcoin Magazine X Spaces to discuss bringing Bitcoin treasury strategies to the Hong Kong market, and the trajectory of corporate adoption in the region.The conversation covers Hong Kong’s emerging role as a Bitcoin-forward jurisdiction, corporate adoption trends across Asia, and the vision behind 1723’s pivot into a Bitcoin-native public company.With direct insight into boardroom sentiment, regulatory clarity, and Asia's accelerating Bitcoin interest, this is a front-row seat to Bitcoin's next corporate frontier.Learn more about Bitcoin for Corporations: https://b.tc/corporations🎟 JOIN US at Bitcoin 2025, May 27-29 in Las Vegas, NV!🛒Use code BM10 for 10% off your ticket: us.b.tc/discount/BM10#BTC#BitcoinNews #BitcoinMagazine #HKAsiaHoldings #BitcoinforCoporations #SoundMoney #Investing #Markets
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