Black and White Advice - Episode: "Have White Women Successfully Stolen Yoga?" | Released February 18, 2025
Hosts: Turner Sparks (White) and Phil Duckett (Black)
Description: Comedians Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett tackle all your questions on race, addressing even the most challenging topics with humor and insight.
Introduction
The episode kicks off with Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett welcoming their regular co-host, Joe "the Muscle" Russell, who joins them remotely. The trio engages in light-hearted banter about upcoming Patreon rewards, specifically Phil's potential stage dive at a punk rock concert in New York City. They discuss various bands and the dynamics of mosh pits, setting a casual and engaging tone for the episode.
Patreon and Upcoming Events
Turner and Phil express excitement about nearing their Patreon goal of $250, which promises Phil a spot in a New York City punk rock mosh pit. They explore different bands, including Fishbone, Nerf Herder, Diesel Boy, Hell Beach, and more obscure acts like Kidnapped, Livid, and Groin. The conversation highlights the intensity of New York City mosh pits compared to other locations, with Turner sharing his own experiences of stage diving and Phil expressing his eagerness to participate.
Notable Quote:
Turner Sparks [05:02]: "New York has like the real down and dirty. The mosh pits are more insane in New York City."
Listener Question 1: Cultural Appropriation of Yoga
The first listener question comes from James in Memphis, who observes that yoga is predominantly associated with white women rather than its Indian origins. He poses a two-part question:
- Is yoga the most successful cultural appropriation by white people?
- What have black people appropriated from white culture?
Discussion Highlights:
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Yoga as Cultural Appropriation:
Turner acknowledges that yoga has been widely adopted and commercialized by white communities, often disconnecting it from its Indian roots. Phil adds that the popularization of Bikram yoga in Beverly Hills contributed significantly to its mainstream acceptance among white women.Notable Quote:
Phil Duckett [14:38]: "They completely took that. They took that and it started getting big in LA, in Beverly Hills." -
Black Cultural Appropriation:
Transitioning to the second part, Phil discusses basketball as a major cultural element black communities revitalized. He emphasizes that while basketball was invented by Dr. James Naismith, it was black players who infused it with the dynamic energy that saved the NBA during its merger with the ABA.Notable Quote:
Phil Duckett [23:00]: "We revamped it for you. Basketball 2.0. A little razzle dazzle."
Listener Question 2: Land Acknowledgments in Black Communities
Spencer from Eugene, Oregon, raises a question about the prevalence of land acknowledgments in black communities compared to white communities, noting their brief surge in various public settings around 2022.
Discussion Highlights:
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Turner and Phil explore the concept of land acknowledgments, noting that they are more commonly practiced in white institutions and seldom adopted by black communities.
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They reference Australia's continued practice of land acknowledgments and the lack of similar movements in black communities, emphasizing the need for genuine reparations beyond symbolic gestures.
Notable Quote:
Phil Duckett [28:29]: "White people need to apologize because they have a lot to atone for. They normally don't make us apologize."
Listener Question 3: Misconceptions About Black Individuals
Fun Kilo from Phoenix, Arizona, submits a question addressing misconceptions that Phil wishes people had about him. Specifically, he mentions wishing people thought he was "packing a niner" (a slang term for a handgun) to deter unwanted attention.
Discussion Highlights:
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Phil humorously responds, expressing his frustration with stereotypes that undermine his persona as a comedian.
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Turner relates by sharing his own wish for slight intimidation to gain respect, highlighting the nuanced ways white and black individuals navigate societal perceptions.
Notable Quotes:
Turner Sparks [32:07]: "I wish people thought I knew kung fu so they wouldn't mess with me."
Phil Duckett [32:48]: "Laugh you right out of that. Victoria's Secret, come fucking with me."
Listener Question 4: When Do White Parents Let Their Kids Cuss?
Kim from Charleston, South Carolina, seeks advice on understanding at what age white parents typically allow their children to use profanity in front of them. She highlights her experience raising black children in predominantly white schools.
Discussion Highlights:
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Turner shares his personal experiences with parental discipline, noting generational differences in attitudes toward punishment and expression.
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Phil contrasts black and white parenting styles, emphasizing the harsher disciplining methods often present in black households compared to white ones.
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The conversation delves into societal expectations and the impact of disciplinary practices on children's behavior and self-expression.
Notable Quotes:
Phil Duckett [36:06]: "We got beat. Dog walked, if you will."
Turner Sparks [41:12]: "It was that, yeah, yeah, yeah, get all your feelings out, get your emotions out."
Fact Check Segment: Yoga Pants and Lululemon
Joe Russell leads the fact-check segment, verifying claims made during the show.
Key Points:
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Lululemon's Name Origin:
Joe confirms that Lululemon founder Chip Wilson named the brand to be difficult for Japanese speakers to pronounce, reflecting a racially insensitive intent.Notable Quote:
Phil Duckett [50:16]: "Remember? What an asshole." -
Legality of Spanking:
Joe addresses the legality of spanking in the United States, clarifying that as of 2024, spanking remains legal in all 50 states despite opposition from medical and social service professionals.Notable Quote:
Joe Russell [49:38]: "Despite opposition from medical and social service professionals, as of 2024, the spanking of children is legal in all 50 states."
Closing Remarks
Turner and Phil encourage listeners to join their Patreon for bonus content and continued discussions on race and societal issues. They reiterate their commitment to providing honest and unfiltered advice on black and white interactions.
Notable Quote:
Turner Sparks [51:19]: "You’ve got a question but you’re scared to ask. Just drop the boys a message because they’re up to the task."
Conclusion
In this episode, Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett delve into the complexities of cultural appropriation, parenting stereotypes, and societal misconceptions. Through humor and candid conversation, they challenge listeners to reflect on deeply ingrained norms and advocate for genuine understanding and respect across racial lines.
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