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Turner Sparks
Bob in Pittsburgh, he says, how do I get the Indian guy at my office to stop heating up his food in the microwave? It's ruining my break. He says.
Phil Duckett
Have you ever had a question you wanted to ask the opposite race, but you were too nervous to ask?
Turner Sparks
I'm Turner Sparks.
Phil Duckett
And I'm Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
And this is black and white advice.
Phil Duckett
But we answer all your questions about race, even the scary ones.
Turner Sparks
This is black and white advice. You've got a question, but you're scared to ask. Just drop the boys a message. Cause they're up to the task.
Pranav Bahari
They're all in the dust.
Turner Sparks
Nice. They ain't always nice. But you can't think twice and give it. Black and white and light.
Pranav Bahari
Black and white.
Turner Sparks
All right, everybody. Welcome to the show. My name is Turner Sparks.
Phil Duckett
Real Deal Feel the thrill Back at it, baby.
Turner Sparks
Behind the glass Punching the knobs, spinning the dials on the ones and twos, threes and fours, fives and sixes. We got Joe the muscle Russell. Joe, how you doing?
Pranav Bahari
Hey, everybody. How you doing there?
Turner Sparks
Oh, who is that?
Pranav Bahari
I'm just Canadian guy.
Turner Sparks
Oh, just a. You could be the prime Minister of Canada. Sounds like.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, yeah.
Turner Sparks
Joe debuts on our show. Joe's also on your show.
Pranav Bahari
Joe is on our show. And, yeah, he never does that voice. That's not a Canadian. That's a pedophile's voice.
Phil Duckett
A new impersonation every week. He comes with a different person.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, is that right?
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Okay, it's time for you kids to hose down the ice.
Turner Sparks
Who's that?
Phil Duckett
It's Canadian.
Pranav Bahari
It's a Canadian guy.
Phil Duckett
Stay with us now. Stay with us.
Turner Sparks
I thought it was, like, Minnesota.
Pranav Bahari
Has Joe ever come through with the Indian?
Phil Duckett
No, no.
Turner Sparks
Next next week.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
We were waiting for you to be gone so it'd be less uncomfortable.
Pranav Bahari
That would have been the time, Joe.
Phil Duckett
Oh, man.
Pranav Bahari
That would do it, Joe. Do it. Thank you. Come again. It's not bad.
Phil Duckett
It's the most racist one.
Pranav Bahari
It's like the 1980s OG one.
Phil Duckett
It is so good, though. Wow.
Pranav Bahari
It's not that bad. Yeah, it was really the classic line, you know?
Turner Sparks
Thank you, Come again.
Pranav Bahari
I mean, but after however many years, Joe, of knowing Indian stuff from doing Mango Bay, I would think it could be a little better. But you say, you know what? That's fine. It's good. That's good. I could do a lot better, but I have to be in my shower alone.
Turner Sparks
Hey, last week was our live show. How about that?
Phil Duckett
Hey, man, great show.
Turner Sparks
Thank you all for coming out, people.
Phil Duckett
Good questions.
Turner Sparks
We really nailed it.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, well, I think. I think I look forward to the next one. You know, I was a little disappointed.
Pranav Bahari
In the turnout personally, but.
Turner Sparks
Listen, it was sold out as far as I heard. We haven't done it yet. We're recording this in advance, so we.
Phil Duckett
We know tournament was. We didn't know you were going to tell them.
Turner Sparks
We don't know.
Phil Duckett
We could have just act like we sold it out.
Turner Sparks
That's what it was.
Pranav Bahari
I was this the show where Phil pulled his dick out out of nowhere. That was crazy. That was a really good show. Until the cops showed up. You know.
Phil Duckett
I can't believe it.
Pranav Bahari
What was your nickname again? Phil?
Phil Duckett
Really?
Pranav Bahari
Dilly. Philly. What was it?
Phil Duckett
The Real Deal. Feel the thrill.
Pranav Bahari
You know, every day I feel like you're just fighting the urge of your true nature of just becoming a pimp, you know? Thank you, bro. It's like a pimp wrestler in a past life.
Turner Sparks
Let's introduce our guest. How about that?
Phil Duckett
Let's do it.
Turner Sparks
Well, wait, one last thing we got to say. The live show, if you were not there, but you're subscribed to the Patreon, we'll be releasing it, I think, in the next couple of days, if it's not already out now, but so you'll get to see all the questions. All the questions. The whole question and answer segment. And you'll know better than we will as you watch this right now. If there was six people there or if it was sold out.
Pranav Bahari
I forgot to tell you, I forgot to record the whole show, you son of a man.
Turner Sparks
So we will be releasing that to Patreon subscribers. The voice you just heard a minute ago, the fourth voice in the room. Pranav Bahari. You know him? Law and Order, svu. I saw you on the Grand Theft Auto Auto.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, I mean, I was in. I had a voice on four, but it was not. I didn't. Why? You don't need to use that as a crazy.
Turner Sparks
Most people know you from that. The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.
Pranav Bahari
That's right.
Turner Sparks
A couple other shows I haven't heard of. And Mango Bay Podcast.
Pranav Bahari
Yes.
Turner Sparks
It's just a couple other shows I haven't heard.
Pranav Bahari
That's true.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Someone wrote that.
Phil Duckett
And Daredevil.
Pranav Bahari
Daredevil.
Turner Sparks
Daredevil.
Pranav Bahari
I was on.
Phil Duckett
You heard of that? You heard a Daredevil recurring.
Pranav Bahari
I was a recurring role. Disney plus. Disney plus.
Turner Sparks
Oh, ding, ding, ding.
Pranav Bahari
What does that mean?
Phil Duckett
Means, hell, yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Hell, yeah.
Turner Sparks
If you like something, say. If you don't like something, we say.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, that's never going to come up. Why would that come up?
Turner Sparks
Use that at your will. And then also this summer. Problematic.
Pranav Bahari
Problematic. That is my web series that's dropping on Brick tv.
Turner Sparks
Brick tv?
Pranav Bahari
Yes.
Turner Sparks
All right, and then what's that? What's. How do you create a show? Pitch a show? You sold the show, right?
Pranav Bahari
Well, it's. I wouldn't say sold. Right. This is a web series. I have a pilot, an original long form, 23 minute pilot.
Turner Sparks
Okay.
Pranav Bahari
And I pitched it to. We pitched it. Me and my team pitched it to Brick, which is like the Brooklyn TV people. Right?
Turner Sparks
Oh, yeah, I've seen.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, they do all, like, the free concerts and stuff at Prospect Park. They do a lot of cool shit. And they said, no, we want a web series. So we turned that into a web series, which we shot last year. We had a good festival run. We won best digital series series fest.
Turner Sparks
Nice.
Pranav Bahari
I didn't even get into writing. Best something else at Starable. We did a bunch of fests last year, though.
Turner Sparks
Terrible. Terrible. That's what I was gonna say. I. I applied to all these for this. No, no, I created a different show.
Pranav Bahari
A web series.
Turner Sparks
I don't. Yeah, I guess.
Phil Duckett
Well, that's why they shut you down. You don't even know what the it is.
Turner Sparks
It was on the web.
Phil Duckett
Something like.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, that's cool.
Turner Sparks
It was on YouTube. That's the web.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
I want to see it. What's it called?
Turner Sparks
It's called Lost in. The show's called Lost in. And then the. The show. The episode is called Lost in El Salvador. We went to El Salvador and did an episode on how to live in a country where bitcoin is the currency of the country. So what's it like to live there? And then we did stand at the end. We had the local comedians kind of take us through the country. And then at the end of the episode, I did stand up with all of them.
Pranav Bahari
That's great.
Turner Sparks
That's a great show.
Pranav Bahari
They shut it.
Turner Sparks
Everybody turned us down. It's a half hour. It's on my YouTube channel.
Phil Duckett
Pitching that, buddy.
Turner Sparks
It's good, right?
Phil Duckett
It was the bad time.
Turner Sparks
It was a good show. It was. Not only was it Covid. We were told. For real, we were told that they didn't want white people talking about a foreign country. I'm not kidding.
Phil Duckett
Fight the power. Touche.
Turner Sparks
But he's coming in here, Turner.
Pranav Bahari
Fight the power.
Turner Sparks
We were putting on three local El Salvadorian comedians who never been on television before.
Pranav Bahari
They hadn't even seen a television.
Turner Sparks
They haven't yet. And so they were doing stand up on the show, and I'm like, but we're featuring.
Phil Duckett
Pitch it again.
Turner Sparks
I think I need to pitch it.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, yeah. I think there's like 13 total people in El Salvador who are not in a prison right now.
Phil Duckett
Right.
Turner Sparks
So when we found all of them.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, I was gonna say now is the time to. That's an amazing concept. I like that.
Turner Sparks
That was the show. But what's this? What's problematic about.
Pranav Bahari
Problematic is a. It is a satire about woke and millennial politics culture.
Turner Sparks
Oh, fantastic.
Pranav Bahari
Based on a failed journalist who goes viral getting into a fight with a finance bro on the street. And then it shows her rapid ascent and rapid decline.
Turner Sparks
Who was that journalist that made his whole thing off of, like, trying to take down comedians? Most famously, he was the Shane Gillis guy.
Pranav Bahari
S. Something.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Pranav Bahari
That I remember his name. But we shouldn't promote.
Phil Duckett
Okay, we're gonna promote him.
Pranav Bahari
We shouldn't promote him, though.
Turner Sparks
So he was. He was a fail. Is it. Was it inspired by this?
Pranav Bahari
I think he was like a failed comedian at one point.
Turner Sparks
Yes. I remember seeing a video of the stand up. He was a horror. Like one of those guys who tries to be an alt comic because he doesn't know how to write jokes. So remember he just make bird sounds.
Pranav Bahari
That's what I had heard about it. I'd never seen it.
Turner Sparks
He'd go on stage and go like, this is my impression of a bird.
Pranav Bahari
And then actually, that was pretty good. That was good.
Turner Sparks
That's actually my new spot.
Pranav Bahari
That's got to be.
Turner Sparks
Coming out soon. And then he didn't. No one obviously liked to stand up. So then he started writing. He was like the joker. So. So. So then he went after comedians and he started. If. If somebody sold a show, he would go back into their Twitter as far back as it went and like, search certain words.
Pranav Bahari
Or in the case of Shane, the podcast.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. He watched hours of his podcast till he found something racist. He did. And then got him kicked off of Saturday Night Live.
Phil Duckett
That was his greatest thing that ever happened to him.
Pranav Bahari
Probably to Shane. Yes, Definitely.
Turner Sparks
It worked out.
Pranav Bahari
Karma is a dude. Karma's funny.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Anyway, so it would. Did this guy inspire this thing at all? No, no, no.
Pranav Bahari
It was inspired by my friend who I co created it with, who's like this type of person actually, who does the same thing. Sort of. Yeah, but. But she's actually funny and got some self awareness. You know what I mean? But yeah, it's coming out on Brick TV this summer, and we're going to.
Phil Duckett
Be looking to pitch it Indian tv.
Pranav Bahari
No.
Turner Sparks
Were you listening to the first five minutes of our show?
Pranav Bahari
He's like, that's on an Indian channel.
Phil Duckett
It's like, how do you get. Watch it? But I'm like, brick tv. I didn't know if that was like Bollywood or something.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah. There's a lot of singing and dancing in it. This elevated satire about woke culture in Brooklyn.
Phil Duckett
I didn't know if it was the musical, you know, Is it.
Turner Sparks
Is it? But is it funded by the, like, Brooklyn. The city government.
Pranav Bahari
The city. The city government of Brooklyn. Your taxpayer dollars.
Turner Sparks
That's fine. Eric Adams.
Pranav Bahari
Eric Adams himself rubber stamped it with his ring. With the seal on his ring.
Phil Duckett
As long as I get a cameo. It was easy.
Pranav Bahari
We handed him the script and he's like, I can't read. So he was like, I'm just gonna give this to you.
Turner Sparks
I see some in you kids.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah. But no, they were great, Brick. The organization was awesome. They gave us a bunch of money to make it and to really do our little festival run. Yeah, amazing. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have to pay anything.
Phil Duckett
So you're like Tarantino.
Pranav Bahari
Yes, that's exactly what I'm like right there. Yeah. Show me your feet.
Phil Duckett
I forgot Tarantino's on that freak shit.
Pranav Bahari
Why do you say I'm like Tarantino? Let's keep going with this. Thr.
Phil Duckett
Just pitching movies.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Having tax dollars fund the movie.
Turner Sparks
I love how Phil went from. I've never heard of that station. And is it in India? Whoa. You're the most famous person I've ever met in my life. Where are you from?
Pranav Bahari
Pennsylvania.
Turner Sparks
Pennsylvania.
Pranav Bahari
Pennsylvania, really?
Phil Duckett
Or like Harrisburg?
Pranav Bahari
Outside of Harrisburg.
Turner Sparks
Did you start comedy there?
Pranav Bahari
No, no, I started here.
Turner Sparks
New York City.
Pranav Bahari
New York City.
Turner Sparks
How's that?
Pranav Bahari
Started in Amish country. That'd be amazing. I was the best. Yeah, I started in New York. Started in New York nine years ago.
Turner Sparks
This field knows what I'm talking about. Nine years ago, New York City. All right. Wow, that's so. I could. We've talked about this before, but I could never.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, we got here around the same.
Turner Sparks
Time, I don't think. Starting in New York City.
Pranav Bahari
Where did you guys start?
Phil Duckett
Atlanta.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, that's good.
Turner Sparks
Started in Shanghai, China.
Pranav Bahari
Whoa.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, But I'm just saying, in general, starting in a big market like New York feels that's a tough. Daunting tough.
Pranav Bahari
So you have pretty good white, Mandarin or Mandarin.
Turner Sparks
But it was in England. I mean, I started an open mic. Yeah. There's like, nothing to Do I've asked you this.
Phil Duckett
You're fluent in Mandarin, right?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, pretty much.
Phil Duckett
Why don't we do it?
Pranav Bahari
What was your job there that you were doing?
Turner Sparks
I had the Mr. Soft the ice cream checks.
Pranav Bahari
Get the out.
Phil Duckett
But he franchised.
Pranav Bahari
I'll bet you they freaking stole that from you though, didn't they? They must have the Chinese government like you. It's Mrs. Softy now. And then they kicked you out.
Turner Sparks
You literally. Did you read this news story that's.
Pranav Bahari
Just like the economic story of China though. They'll like take the IP of a thing that comes in, they'll. They'll reverse engineer it and then they'll fucking take it for themselves and then kick them out. Yeah, like, oh, it's Mr. Hardy now. And we take the idea. Go do a good job with that. Yeah. And then they fucking ran with it. Right. They took your whole infrastructure. Am I wrong? Took your whole infrastructure, the branding, and they're like, oh, we got to take this now. Yeah. And now it's like a bunch of like nine year old slaves who are selling and churning ice cream and. Oh, come on. You could have just run with that. Fancy.
Turner Sparks
You almost had it.
Pranav Bahari
What, what's the rest of the story?
Turner Sparks
No, you really just told the whole story. I mean, there's like a. There's art.
Pranav Bahari
I did accents and everything. I played all the characters.
Phil Duckett
Buddy, that was the top notch recap I never knew I needed. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't even know.
Turner Sparks
It's almost like you read the news stories. There's two stories are written about it. It's almost like you read them minutes before getting here and then just retell, retold them. Right.
Pranav Bahari
Okay. So that's amazing that I called it.
Turner Sparks
Like, I moved there in 2004, but did got one Mr. Softee franchise in 2006. Did that for the next 10 years. Built it up to 10 stores and two trucks. And then the local government, around 2013, 14, sent their relatives to come work for us. And then, you know, learn everything. What you said, learn the idea, take the IP and then eventually pull our. And then start their own trucks, the park next to our trucks, and then pull our permits so we couldn't compete with the fake version. And I think there was one called Mrs. Softy probably. There was Mrs. Softy, the fake version of our trucks.
Pranav Bahari
Wow.
Turner Sparks
That's the story. There's one. Okay. There is something about living in the United States. Everyone likes to shit on everything all the time here.
Pranav Bahari
America is the best country, but there's no getting around that shit. It is the best fucking country.
Turner Sparks
But the fact that you don't have to worry about the US Government for no reason shutting your business down at any point just because they. You gotten a. You got in an argument with somebody, or they don't like you or they want it, or you do too well.
Pranav Bahari
Right.
Turner Sparks
Or you're not well enough. Sets us apart from a lot of most countries.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah. Unless, of course, you're Amish and you're selling raw milk. Yeah, that's. The Amish gets shut down for that. For selling raw.
Turner Sparks
Do they?
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Unpastured.
Pranav Bahari
That's like. That's like their crack.
Turner Sparks
That's because there's health and.
Pranav Bahari
Hey, tomato, Tomato. Darn it, Mississippi. Mr. Softy. Who's to say?
Turner Sparks
Somewhere right now, doing this exact podcast without mics, camera that doesn't work.
Pranav Bahari
Into a field.
Phil Duckett
Dreaming about the US government into a cornfield. Good.
Turner Sparks
Great.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, that's intense, dude.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, so that was the story. So I was there 2004 to 2016.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And then. So comedy's the back.
Pranav Bahari
They stole your jokes, too. They stole your open mic.
Turner Sparks
That was why Stand up.
Pranav Bahari
They sent an Asian, like, two. Yeah, we're gonna do it.
Turner Sparks
Oh, God. But that's what. So I mean, ice cream, big money.
Pranav Bahari
Make idea. Your comedy tool make money.
Turner Sparks
God, we're getting further and further away.
Pranav Bahari
This podcast is not going to be yellow and white. Yellow and white advice podcast. Not from ccp. Wait. Sure, sure. Sorry.
Phil Duckett
Turner ain't never going to be able to go back to China.
Turner Sparks
Why?
Pranav Bahari
You had big plans of, like. I'm going to see if I can mend fences with the people.
Turner Sparks
My wife's Chinese. We go. Her family's all still there.
Pranav Bahari
I'm sending this podcast to Seth Simons.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. What if he's like a. Like a stooge of the government out there?
Pranav Bahari
Now that is some Chinese government.
Turner Sparks
I have something to tell you. Excuse me. Just telling on people to.
Pranav Bahari
So you go back a lot?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, usually like once a year.
Pranav Bahari
Okay. Shanghai.
Turner Sparks
Suzhou next to Shanghai. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Nice. My girlfriend. Yeah, I was gonna say she's Cantonese. Oh, she's never been.
Phil Duckett
Asian lady, too.
Pranav Bahari
She's never been. She's never been to China, though.
Turner Sparks
Oh, yeah. I'm kidding.
Pranav Bahari
From San Jose, but yeah.
Turner Sparks
Wait, can. You mean she's. Her family's from Hong Kong.
Pranav Bahari
Her family's from Hong Kong? Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Somewhere down there.
Pranav Bahari
Hong Kong. Yeah. Hong speaking Cantonese.
Phil Duckett
So Cantonese speaking people and Mandarin people, they gang this gangland with each other.
Turner Sparks
No.
Phil Duckett
I don't know. Yeah, no, now they all seem pretty.
Turner Sparks
Mandarin's the. The one that pretty much everybody speaks, including people from. Yeah, Southern. But then they also speak their own language.
Pranav Bahari
Well, I've heard that there's actually like dozens of different little sub ethnicities, but that people around outside the country have no idea about.
Turner Sparks
So there's three. I used to do a joke about this. There's 306 languages, China, but the people from the south are the ones who moved to America first in like the 70s or 60s or 80s. So American people think it's Cantonese or Mandarin.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Really? Mandarin is the umbrella one. And then everyone who moved here was from that part of China would speak Cantonese. But there's 305 other languages depending upon what part of the country you're in.
Phil Duckett
It's, you know, listen, I can't get caught up in all.
Turner Sparks
Phil's zoning out.
Phil Duckett
I'm like. I'm like this, like learning. Once this turns into math class, I'm like, I got a d plus in this.
Turner Sparks
We will be right. Welcome back, everybody, with your black and white advice, questions and answers.
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Turner Sparks
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Phil Duckett
And I might call you the N word.
Turner Sparks
And we're back. First question, question of the week comes us from Bob in Pittsburgh. Bob says, how do I get. Oh, we've tailored. So a lot of these questions. We get along the way and then we sa them for depending upon who the guest is. Bob in Pittsburgh, he says, how do I get the Indian guy at my office to stop heating up his food in the microwave? It's ruining my break. He says, what's a polite way to ask that? Do you know what I mean?
Pranav Bahari
That is time for segregated microwaves. You know, I mean, the problem is, is he. It's a double edged sword. It's not just normal politeness. Is that that Indian guy is probably also his boss.
Turner Sparks
So most likely, you know, Pittsburgh is like a. Is it a tech place now?
Pranav Bahari
I don't, doesn't Uber.
Turner Sparks
That's where they test. I think Uber is maybe out of Pittsburgh because of Carnegie Mellon. Is it Carnegie Mellon?
Pranav Bahari
Carnegie Mellon is in Pittsburgh, but Uber came out of San Francisco.
Turner Sparks
Oh, well, it was half right.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, yeah, they have like, they have like a. There's what would be a lot of Indians there because there's a big medical center there, upmc.
Turner Sparks
All right, so if your boss is heating up food in the microwave and it's ruining. It is ruining his brain.
Phil Duckett
Well, if it's your boss, you shut the fuck up and deal with it.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but there's a. Is there a polite way?
Phil Duckett
But you shouldn't be if.
Pranav Bahari
Is there a polite way? Here's what you do is unplug the microwave and break the microwave or something. You know, there's no other way to do this.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Like, what are you going to say? Oh, your food smells like shit? I mean, you could do that.
Phil Duckett
If he's not, if he's not my boss, there's a chance. Depending on like, what would you do if he's my boss? I'm not going to say shit.
Turner Sparks
If he's not.
Phil Duckett
If he's not. I'm going to. If he said fish. Because see, that's just common courtesy that you should never like microwave fish at like office.
Pranav Bahari
Right.
Phil Duckett
People do that and that's just out of line. Like you weren't raised well. Yeah, you know what I mean? But, but I don't know, Indian food does have quite a.
Turner Sparks
What I'm gonna do is very minimal.
Pranav Bahari
30 spices and everything.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, it has a sting to it.
Turner Sparks
So yeah, go ahead.
Phil Duckett
I'd be like, you got to go easy on the curry, my boy.
Turner Sparks
Oh, you would just straight up tell him. No, I'm too passive aggressive for that. I.
Pranav Bahari
Where does he work, though, that he's confined in with this.
Turner Sparks
Well, listen, man, there's a lot of.
Phil Duckett
You've never worked in a tough economy.
Pranav Bahari
I've worked in a cubicle.
Phil Duckett
Have you?
Pranav Bahari
Yes, of course.
Turner Sparks
One of those small kitchens that everybody has to share. Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Okay, so that's the kitchen. Just walk out of the kitchen.
Turner Sparks
Then sometimes those kitchens right next to them.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, no, it goes to the office. It goes to the office.
Turner Sparks
I would say what I would do is, you know, when they go low we go lower. That's what they always say. I would. You gotta just microwave something. Grow, like, something that smells worse.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, I was just gonna say, you got to start a war now.
Turner Sparks
Cold war, right? Durian.
Pranav Bahari
You know durian.
Phil Duckett
Oh, my God.
Turner Sparks
One of those things. Microwave durian.
Phil Duckett
When he was like, what the is this? Me, like, see how we feel?
Turner Sparks
Exactly. You start microwaving fruit that got banned. Banned in East Asia.
Phil Duckett
Just start making moonshine from mint in the fruit.
Turner Sparks
That's the answer I would give. All right, next.
Pranav Bahari
But here's the actual answer.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, what is it?
Pranav Bahari
Right? Here's the actual answer for how this will no longer bother him. Right?
Turner Sparks
Oh, yeah.
Pranav Bahari
All he has to do is taste a little bit of the Indian food, and then his senses will be transformed.
Turner Sparks
That's what I was gonna say.
Pranav Bahari
You know, that's how durian is.
Turner Sparks
Even if it smells bad, it tastes great. I love durian.
Pranav Bahari
Right? That's. That's how durian is.
Phil Duckett
Y' all have had that in, like, the smelliest fruit.
Pranav Bahari
I eat durian every chance I can get. It's unbelievably delicious. It's so creamy. It's sweet. Look, here's what it is. My mom. My mom actually spent a lot of her childhood in Malaysia.
Turner Sparks
Okay?
Pranav Bahari
So, you know, she grew up eating a lot of durian, right? But at one point in, like, our garage, we're like, something fucking died in the garage. Like, what the fuck's going on? And then it was revealed that my mom had bought. Found some durian, bought it, and kept it in the fridge in the garage. And we're like, what the fuck is that? Mom. Mom, come on. And then she was like, just try a little bit. Just try a little bit. I was the only one who tried it. I tried it, and I was like, I am transformed. Dorian is the most delicious fruit on.
Phil Duckett
Earth, but it smells like a dead body.
Pranav Bahari
It smells literally like something rotting. But when you taste it, it tastes sweet.
Turner Sparks
It's interesting.
Phil Duckett
You know how hungry you'd have to be to try. Be the first person to try that. Like, when it's first discovered, like, you're on the brink of death like nobody else. You had to eat it.
Pranav Bahari
Listen, here's the other thing about this show.
Turner Sparks
Chitlins is way worse. Not even spice.
Pranav Bahari
Spiced. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
There was no spice on them, I don't think. I don't know. So when I. My. I first encountered durian by going through Southeast Asia and just seeing on hotels, they have, like, no durian band. It's banned.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
They have one of those smoking sections, durian fruit. And so I was like, I got. What is this? I gotta try it. And then I didn't even. It doesn't even smell that bad to me. But my wife hates the smell.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, you can get it in Chinatown now, but usually they'll come frozen.
Phil Duckett
They do.
Turner Sparks
We'll have it on the show.
Pranav Bahari
You should actually.
Turner Sparks
Because I'm fine with it. I don't find it.
Pranav Bahari
Invite me back for that. I want some durian, dude. Listen, I'm telling you right now, Phil, it is, like, creamy. It's custardy. It's. It's delicious. It's sweet. Like, you will love it. It's a great fruit.
Turner Sparks
Bring in durian, Bob.
Pranav Bahari
In Pittsburgh, usually once a year, I will get some durian and crack one open.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Where do you do it? In your house?
Pranav Bahari
In my house? Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Or like, under a bridge. I don't know.
Turner Sparks
I know, the Queensborough Bridge, right?
Phil Duckett
Even the homeless people, like, what the.
Pranav Bahari
That's a great way to get rid of homeless people, too. It's just. Crack open a durian.
Turner Sparks
All right, this one is bridge change, man.
Pranav Bahari
I don't know what the happened here.
Turner Sparks
Next question. Jeff. Hey says, hey. It's Jeff. I'm a white dude in Orlando, Florida, like Turner. I'm also married to a Chinese woman. Are you married or dating?
Pranav Bahari
Dating. She just moved in three years now.
Phil Duckett
Congrats, man.
Turner Sparks
Look at you.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, we're getting close.
Turner Sparks
He says in the movies, they make Asian woman out to be passive and quiet, but my wife and all of her family. Relatives are loud and pushy. What other stereotypes for Asian women do you find not to be true? What do you think? I mean, that's the.
Pranav Bahari
I mean, that is definitely not true. My. I've. I've dated. I've dated a lot of women of all kinds. I've dated a lot of Asian women. None of them have ever been submissive or anything like that.
Turner Sparks
My wife isn't at all. All.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And I don't know. Editor's single. Is that a Japanese thing? Maybe?
Pranav Bahari
It could be a Japanese thing, but, you know, at that point, every. All the Japanese are submissive because we just dropped a nuke on them.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Duckett
That humbles you?
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Not only one, two.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, yeah.
Turner Sparks
Back to back.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. We changed the culture over there.
Turner Sparks
We did.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. We definitely.
Pranav Bahari
So I don't know. I don't know what other stereotypes about Asian. Asian people are not true.
Turner Sparks
I mean, so the shoes thing is for sure true.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
No Asian family wants Shoes in the house?
Turner Sparks
Never. Absolutely not. Absolutely absolutely not.
Phil Duckett
So you walked in to an Asian household in, like, Shanghai in some tims.
Pranav Bahari
That's an Indian thing, too. Across all of Asia, South Asia to East Asia. No shoes.
Phil Duckett
Is it a religious thing or just like.
Turner Sparks
I know it's like, I don't want to bring them dirty. Yeah, we're clean. Yeah, inside's clean, outside's dirty.
Pranav Bahari
That's the whole thing.
Phil Duckett
Now, listen, no offense, in India, I could get that. But in Asia, Asia's pretty spotless.
Turner Sparks
China's.
Pranav Bahari
No, it's not at all.
Turner Sparks
Not spotless.
Pranav Bahari
I don't even know where that kind of.
Turner Sparks
Can I tell you, at our club in Shanghai, we had a comedian. I won't name him, but you guys all know him. And he came over and he had only performed internationally. He's a New York comic. Had only performed internationally previously in Australia. And he went. And he did this whole bit that I guess killed in Australia, where he was like. Like, I just. I live in New York. It's so clean here. Oh, my God. The streets are clean. New York's gross. And everyone's like, yeah, that's hilarious. So he. He first day, like, straight off the taxi. Tried it in Shanghai to like, it's so clean here. New York's disgusting. Silence. Crowd's like, what are you talking about? Like, everyone at this show in Shanghai had been to New York. It's all, like, international travel people, they were like, that's just objectively untrue.
Phil Duckett
So he was. That was his opener.
Turner Sparks
Just trying to relate, but without actually having. I think he just sort of thought all foreign countries were the same place, maybe.
Phil Duckett
Listen, I.
Turner Sparks
China's a dirty. I mean, like, people.
Phil Duckett
I'm thinking, everybody's telling me Japan.
Turner Sparks
Japan is very clean.
Pranav Bahari
Japan is very clean. South Korea is probably really clean.
Phil Duckett
North Korea.
Pranav Bahari
But, you know, even up until, like. Even up until recently, like, in Japan, it was up until the 50s where the Olympics showed up in Japan. I forget when that was. And they had to start an ordinance where it's like, hey, you can't piss out in the street anymore.
Turner Sparks
Because.
Pranav Bahari
Yes, because there's foreign people coming now, so there's no more street pissing. Stuff like that. And then when the Olympics in Korea, they had similar stuff there as well, where that kind of internationalizing event has an impact on various countries.
Turner Sparks
That happened in Beijing, the 2008 Olympics.
Pranav Bahari
Right.
Turner Sparks
I remember I went to those, and it was spotless.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And I'm like. It was like when neighbors come over and your parents. Yeah. Clean the house. They did that with the country.
Pranav Bahari
Exactly.
Turner Sparks
So I think it's a little cleaner now, but definitely for a while, it was. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
I do got a question, though, because you know how everybody they. Because I feel like Instagram reels all. Now all we see India and we see the videos of, like, them preparing, and it's just like, holy, this can't be real. So I'm wondering, is that accurate or they, like, giving y' all the Africa treatment, you know? Listen, bro, you know how they only show. Africa is like mud?
Turner Sparks
We eat.
Pranav Bahari
We eat with our hands, and we cook with our feet. You know, what can I say?
Phil Duckett
I'm like, there's no way. These videos, like, I watch it, and all I say, I find myself saying out loud, I can never go to India. Like, I say that at least six times a day on Instagram.
Pranav Bahari
Listen. No, it probably here how it all started, right? If you're eating street food in India, which I don't recommend, even Indians don't. Most Indians don't eat, like, street food in India. So if you're eating. It's not like, Anthony Bourdain, you're going to Vietnam, and I'm gonna eat these, you know, crickets or whatever. Yeah. On the street. It's not like that there. You know, like, you could die. They don't use. I mean, it depends where you go, too, right?
Phil Duckett
Rats in the background by the food. I'm like.
Pranav Bahari
I mean, bro, I hate to break it to you, but if you get a falafel on the street, you know, New York City isn't, like, the best either.
Turner Sparks
Train late at night.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, yeah. It's like, you don't want to eat any street food in India.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
So you're gonna. Yeah. It started with one video of a guy who's making something, and they're like, oh. And then people started to run away with the phenomenon. Right. They don't. Bet you Indians got in on the phone. They're like the Algos jumping up for us, like, let's do the beat.
Turner Sparks
Indian people are purposely making these videos.
Pranav Bahari
It's. It's a possibility.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
Because Indians love the visibility.
Phil Duckett
That's so crazy, man. Those videos have me.
Turner Sparks
So is there a thing where, like, so people will say. I've had people say to me, oh, when I go to China, I want to eat. Eat the insects. Because I see Chinese people eat the insects. No, but when you live there, no one actually eats.
Pranav Bahari
No one eats the insects.
Turner Sparks
It's only tourists who come, and there's one Street. It'd be like going to Times Square if they sold some insane food.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And everyone's like, that's what Americans eat every day. It's like, no, that's kind of like a one thing you do for a picture once. Is it like that?
Pranav Bahari
I mean, with the street food. I honestly don't know who. Who eats that, because every time I've gone to India and I've been many times since I was a kid, they'd be like, no, you don't touch any of that. Like. Or if you do, you know, like, for instance, there will be, like, a marketplace where everybody's making stuff within the bazaar, and then that'll probably be okay. Right. So you'll get, like, Jalebi's. It's like a sweet thing, right? Or samosas. You can get some of those things. Right. But you don't just go to any random. Because you don't know what the kind of oil they're cooking in that they're cooking that in. Right. What kind of ingredients? Like, you have no idea. Yeah, it's like motor oil oil or something. It's like, you don't. You don't want that. That.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
You know, that makes me feel so.
Phil Duckett
Much better that even Indian people, like, don't touch this.
Pranav Bahari
You don't. Don't touch that. Indian food is. Is a really very delicious cuisine, but you got to go to the vetted places for it, you know?
Turner Sparks
What about. So the par. Her parents are from China.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Okay, cool. And how was it when you guys started dating? Were they cool?
Pranav Bahari
More or less? Yeah. Yeah, kind of.
Turner Sparks
I guess. They were in America. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And people feel safe with India.
Pranav Bahari
They're in America.
Phil Duckett
They know you're a success, and, you.
Pranav Bahari
Know, I mean, they feel. Say, you saying I'm a. You say, I got a small dick, Phil. I'm a pussy. No, I mean. I mean, I think her dad is definitely racist against Indians. He works in Silicon Valley. He has to deal with Indians all the time. He's probably. He probably wrote in the question about microwave Indian food, you know, but it's like, look, your daughter brings somebody home, and he's a nice guy, and he's funny, and he's good at hanging out. They're like, all right. No, he's fine. He's cool.
Phil Duckett
Fantastic, you know?
Pranav Bahari
No, they're great people. Super nice. I just saw her. I had dinner with her mom yesterday. She came out of town for a quick little trip, and so my girlfriend's not even in town, so we get.
Turner Sparks
Along, just the two of you hanging out, you and Mom.
Pranav Bahari
I picked her up from the airport, we went and got dinner, and I dropped her at her hotel.
Phil Duckett
And then you gotta hit me for the wedding. I won't win them outfits.
Pranav Bahari
Which one? The Indian outfit.
Phil Duckett
That'll be so smooth.
Pranav Bahari
I'm like, that's silk in a.
Turner Sparks
That'll be a wild wedding.
Pranav Bahari
Even Chinese outfit are great.
Phil Duckett
We have Chinese shirts for.
Turner Sparks
For Chinese.
Phil Duckett
Good as fuck.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, we dress up.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, we dress up.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Yeah, we go full in. Next question. This is from. Let's do this one. Dominic. I'm a white guy in Queens.
Pranav Bahari
Dom, Dom, Dom from Queens.
Turner Sparks
He says, for whoever your next Indian guest might be, here's my question. I saw an Indian kid and an older crazy Indian guy, unrelated to each other, arguing on the subway platform. The crowd is on the side of the kid. But then the kid started calling the older guy the N word.
Pranav Bahari
Oh, nice.
Turner Sparks
Not in a traditionally racist way, but more in the way where he thought he had a license to use it. Right away, multiple black guys on the platform. Platform told him to shut the fuck up. And I don't think the kid even realized what was wrong as he said it maybe two more times. What is the relationship with the word And Indians in America? America.
Pranav Bahari
Okay?
Phil Duckett
They should be saying it.
Pranav Bahari
They should not be saying it. And. But you will have. Look, and you come here as an Indian, right? You'll assimilate in two different ways. You'll assimilate either as black or as white.
Turner Sparks
That's right. O' Neill had that little bit, did he?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, probably true.
Pranav Bahari
Can't believe he stole that from me.
Turner Sparks
No, no, no. His was slightly. His said that his was Mexican and Chinese and Asian. And he said Mexicans pick black and Asians picked white.
Pranav Bahari
Yes, exactly. That's very true. Right. And so in Queens, most of the Indians that you're gonna find go naturally towards black, Right. Culture in school and whatever, right? And everything is culturally downstream of black people in this country and in the world, right? So they're raised with it. Maybe they're here at growing up and stuff like that. And so they just think, like, yeah, me and my N words, right? But the thing is, like, they're not necessarily hanging out with a lot of black people, you know, they're really just hanging out with a lot of other, like, Bengalis who got fades and who are cutting it cloth and maybe some Trinidadian Indian type, right? You know, and they just think, like, I'll estimate. I'll round up to black, right? Close Enough, they'll round up to black and they'll try to. They think they'll get away with saying the N word, you know, and then.
Turner Sparks
You'Re on a subway platform about to.
Phil Duckett
Get beat some real.
Pranav Bahari
Exactly, exactly. Every time I see an Indian guy trying to affect the blackness.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
I'm like, kick that guy in the ball balls. Kick him in the balls. It's not real. It's not real. It's just. It's. It's the worst kind of appropriation because Indians are very privileged class of people here.
Turner Sparks
Indians have done well.
Pranav Bahari
Indians have done extremely well. We're the number top earners in the country at this point. Wow. We've even. I think we're neck and necker of surpass the Jews.
Turner Sparks
The owner of my favorite basketball team is an Indian man.
Pranav Bahari
Which team is that?
Turner Sparks
Unfortunately, the Sacramento Kings.
Pranav Bahari
Okay.
Turner Sparks
He's Indian vivekaranadive. Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
He's a couple South Asian tech billionaires. Yeah, of course.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Duckett
So do they. I mean, because y' all are technically Asian Indian, right? So do they. Are Indian parents, like, just like Asian parents, like, they just push their kids extremely hard?
Pranav Bahari
Like they push them extremely hard? Yes.
Phil Duckett
Do they make y' all kneel on rice, too?
Pranav Bahari
Was that.
Phil Duckett
They make you kneel on rice? I heard Chinese kids had to kneel on rice when they fuck up their tests.
Pranav Bahari
No, but we have other things, like. Well, you'll make a kid hold his ears in a corner for a few hours. And so what is. All kinds of penance that you have to perform?
Turner Sparks
What does that do?
Pranav Bahari
Make sure your arms get tired and you're. It's like, you know, in.
Phil Duckett
The.
Pranav Bahari
Asians in general are very good. They know the body very well, so they understand torture very well.
Turner Sparks
So this is if your kid's bad.
Pranav Bahari
As opposed to the same cultures they came up with, you know, qigong, tai chi, yoga. Right? These people. Thousands and thousands and thousands of years of studying and understanding the body. So they know how to torment people. Right. So for Indians, it's. It's. You have to hold. Go somewhere, stand in a corner holding your ears. Stand on one leg.
Turner Sparks
Maybe something like for like 10 minutes or something.
Pranav Bahari
How longer? Maybe, but depends how bad you up. You know?
Turner Sparks
What's the worst thing your parents ever made you do?
Pranav Bahari
Oh, I don't know. I mean, I had it kind of easy. If I would go to India, you know, hold. Stand in the corner, hold your ears or. My brother went to school in India once when he was a kid. Just as like a lark, right? And.
Turner Sparks
And.
Pranav Bahari
And he got in trouble in school, and they made him stand on the desk holding his ears for the whole class in school. Yeah, yeah. Holding your ears is also painful, right?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah.
Pranav Bahari
It's not. It's not an easy thing. So it's a thing that you do as penance. You know, he went as a.
Turner Sparks
He went to school there for fun.
Pranav Bahari
It was like. It was like a kind of like, was he back there on summer vacation? And they were like, hey, the school you're starting, they're like, let's give it a shot of like, let's put him in school.
Phil Duckett
Oh, summer vacation.
Pranav Bahari
Let's. Exactly.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Pranav Bahari
There's no summer vacation for Indian kids. You know, like, you're. You're just pulling out. Then it's homeschooling, basically.
Phil Duckett
My mom. Yeah. Every day I used. My mom used to make me do like two hours each day during the summer. And I'd have to like pass her homemade test.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
To get outside.
Pranav Bahari
That's good.
Phil Duckett
I used to be so mad because some days, especially when I got to the math.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
There were days I'm like, well, I'm just not gonna see the sun today. I'll stay inside.
Pranav Bahari
Disobedience at its finest.
Turner Sparks
She would homeschool you all summer.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Every day. We had words. Words like us. We had spelling tests. Like, she gave me different words through this encyclopedia.
Pranav Bahari
That's a good mom.
Phil Duckett
And then I'd have a math.
Turner Sparks
That's too good of a mom.
Phil Duckett
Dude. I'm telling you, I used to just be so pissed, bro, because I, you know, school, English and all that.
Turner Sparks
Everyone else's parents, they're like, gone. You know what I mean?
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
My parents would leave in the morning and they come back at five at night. My mom was doing everyone.
Phil Duckett
My mom was a stay at home mom. So my dad was at work, so. Yeah, she was there.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah. I mean, they would try and institute it where they'd be like, same with mine. My parents would work, but they'd be like, hey, when we get back, X, Y and Z has to be done in this workbook.
Turner Sparks
Oh, my God.
Pranav Bahari
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Never been happier to be white. We didn't have to do anything.
Pranav Bahari
No.
Turner Sparks
You could build your. My friend is my friend who I grew up or I became friends with later. We grew up near each other. Palestinian American. And he was bad. So bad. One year in school, his parents for the summer sent him to Palestine.
Pranav Bahari
That is the punishment.
Turner Sparks
To go live with his cousin.
Phil Duckett
That's a different type of penance because.
Turner Sparks
He was like, Spoiled. They thought he was too spoiled as an American, you know.
Phil Duckett
Is he still alive?
Turner Sparks
I haven't seen him in a while. Shout out, Rami, if you're out there. All right, that's the show, everybody. One last thing we got to do. Joe Russell Black. Wait. White lies and dark truths. This is the fact check segment of the show. We find out what anything we said, what we got right, what we got wrong, what do we get?
Pranav Bahari
Yeah, so I just got a few fun facts and we'll just read through these worst things to put into a microwave. Fish. Phil said that broccoli, Brussels sprouts, sauerkraut, burnt popcorn and egg stuff.
Phil Duckett
Egg stuff stinks.
Turner Sparks
No, like hard boiled eggs in a microwave would be disgusting smelling. All right, that's for Bob in Pittsburgh.
Pranav Bahari
And then the one last thing. In America, 11 of unintermarried couples are a white man and an Asian woman. 4% involve a white woman and an Asian man.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, I think that's about right.
Pranav Bahari
Sounds about right.
Turner Sparks
But you're an Asian man. Asian woman.
Pranav Bahari
Yes, we are.
Turner Sparks
Look at that. Good for them how? What's the numbers on that? In Indian, Asian, East Asian is probably a. Is that in America?
Pranav Bahari
It's probably high.
Turner Sparks
Is it?
Pranav Bahari
Because these are all kids in the engineering department at school? I guess that's true. Like that these days. So when we go to the Patreon Pranav, can you tell the story of when you were robbed in India with a cobra? Sure, sure.
Turner Sparks
That's the greatest tease ever. That's the show, everybody. Patreon subscribers, stick around. You're gonna get the full story of when Pranav was robbed with a cobra in India. At five bucks a month. Patreon.com blackand white advice and you get that plus more. That's it, everybody else. See you next week.
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Black and White Advice: Indian Food in Office Microwave OK?
Episode Release Date: May 27, 2025
Hosts: Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett
Guest: Pranav Baheri
In this episode of Black and White Advice, comedians Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett tackle the often tricky intersection of workplace etiquette and cultural diversity. The episode kicks off with the hosts humorously addressing a listener's concern from Bob in Pittsburgh:
Turner Sparks [00:00]: "Bob in Pittsburgh, he says, how do I get the Indian guy at my office to stop heating up his food in the microwave? It's ruining my break."
This question sets the tone for a lighthearted yet insightful discussion on racial dynamics and cultural misunderstandings in everyday settings.
The episode welcomes Pranav Baheri, a seasoned comedian and content creator, known for his appearances on shows like Law & Order: SVU, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel, and Daredevil. His diverse background brings a unique perspective to the conversation.
Pranav Baheri [04:08]: "Yeah, I mean, I was in. I had a voice on four, but it was not."
Pranav shares his experiences working on the Mango Bay Podcast and his venture into creating original web series, highlighting the challenges and triumphs of navigating the entertainment industry.
The core of the episode revolves around addressing Bob's question about Indian colleagues using the office microwave. The hosts and guest delve into broader themes of cultural sensitivity and the importance of understanding and respecting diverse backgrounds in the workplace.
Phil Duckett [19:07]: "Well, if it's your boss, you shut the fuck up and deal with it."
Through a mix of humor and candid conversation, they explore the often unspoken tensions that arise from cultural differences. Pranav offers a nuanced take on office dynamics:
Pranav Baheri [18:25]: "That is time for segregated microwaves. You know, I mean, the problem is, is he. It's a double-edged sword. It's not just normal politeness. Is that that Indian guy is probably also his boss."
This segment emphasizes the delicate balance between addressing personal discomfort and maintaining professional respect.
Pranav shares personal stories from his time in India, including challenges with business ventures and cultural mishaps. These anecdotes serve to illustrate the complexities of cross-cultural interactions and the importance of empathy.
Pranav Baheri [13:31]: "I moved there in 2004, but did got one Mr. Softee franchise in 2006. Did that for the next 10 years. Built it up to 10 stores and two trucks."
The discussion further extends to stereotypes portrayed in media, particularly regarding Asian women and familial expectations. Through candid conversations, the hosts and guest debunk common misconceptions, advocating for a more informed and respectful understanding of different cultures.
Pranav Baheri [23:59]: "My wife isn't at all."
A significant portion of the episode addresses the sensitive topic of cultural appropriation, especially in the context of language and identity. The hosts and Pranav discuss instances where cultural elements are misappropriated or misunderstood, leading to uncomfortable or offensive situations.
Pranav Baheri [33:12]: "Cannot believe he stole that from me."
This conversation highlights the fine line between cultural appreciation and appropriation, urging listeners to approach interactions with cultural awareness and sensitivity.
Throughout the episode, humor remains a central theme, with the hosts and Pranav using comedic storytelling to address serious subjects. Listener questions are answered with a blend of wit and wisdom, making the content both entertaining and educational.
Phil Duckett [19:09]: "But you shouldn't be if."
One notable exchange revolves around the notorious durian fruit, serving as a metaphor for embracing discomfort to appreciate diverse cultures fully.
Pranav Baheri [21:04]: "It smells like something rotting. But when you taste it, it tastes sweet."
This segment underscores the episode's overarching message: true cultural understanding often requires looking beyond the surface.
Towards the end, the hosts engage in a fact-checking segment, where they verify statements made during the show, ensuring accuracy and dispelling myths.
Phil Duckett [37:26]: "Egg stuff stinks."
Additionally, they provide statistics on interracial relationships, offering a data-driven perspective on societal trends.
Pranav Baheri [38:04]: "And then the one last thing. In America, 11 of unmarried couples are a white man and an Asian woman. 4% involve a white woman and an Asian man."
The episode wraps up with a teaser for exclusive content available to Patreon subscribers, inviting listeners to delve deeper into the discussions and personal stories shared by Pranav.
Turner Sparks [38:29]: "That's the greatest tease ever. That's the show, everybody. Patreon subscribers, stick around. You're gonna get the full story of when Pranav was robbed with a cobra in India."
Overall, this episode of Black and White Advice masterfully blends humor with meaningful dialogue, encouraging listeners to navigate racial and cultural conversations with openness and respect. Through personal anecdotes, expert insights, and engaging banter, Turner Sparks, Phil Duckett, and Pranav Baheri offer valuable perspectives on fostering a more inclusive and understanding workplace environment.
Notable Quotes:
Turner Sparks [00:00]: "Bob in Pittsburgh, he says, how do I get the Indian guy at my office to stop heating up his food in the microwave? It's ruining my break."
Phil Duckett [19:07]: "Well, if it's your boss, you shut the fuck up and deal with it."
Pranav Baheri [21:04]: "It smells like something rotting. But when you taste it, it tastes sweet."
Pranav Baheri [23:59]: "My wife isn't at all."
Pranav Baheri [38:04]: "And then the one last thing. In America, 11 of unmarried couples are a white man and an Asian woman. 4% involve a white woman and an Asian man."
Key Takeaways:
Cultural Sensitivity in the Workplace: Addressing issues like microwave etiquette requires understanding and respecting cultural differences.
Breaking Down Stereotypes: Media portrayals often misrepresent cultural groups, necessitating conversations that debunk these myths.
Balancing Humor and Seriousness: Using humor can be an effective way to discuss and dismantle sensitive racial and cultural issues.
Personal Stories Enhance Understanding: Sharing personal anecdotes provides relatable insights into the complexities of cross-cultural interactions.
Continued Learning and Engagement: Exclusive content and fact-checking segments encourage listeners to engage further and deepen their understanding.
Black and White Advice continues to be a platform where tough questions about race are addressed with honesty, humor, and a commitment to education, making it a valuable listen for anyone looking to navigate the nuances of cultural diversity.