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Phil Duckett
There's so many flies in here. Did you notice that? I've been, like, looking. I'm like, there's so many flies.
Joe Russell
There's a lot of flies.
Phil Duckett
Oh, my God. You think there's a body in here?
Turner Sparks
It could be.
Phil Duckett
There could be a dead dog.
Turner Sparks
We haven't looked in the. In the other rooms.
Joe Russell
They're here because the pod's dead.
Phil Duckett
Have you ever had a question you want to ask the opposite race, but you were too nervous to ask?
Turner Sparks
I'm Turner Sparks.
Phil Duckett
And I'm Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
And this is black and white advice.
Phil Duckett
But we answer all your questions about race, even the scary ones.
Turner Sparks
This is black and white advice.
Phil Duckett
You got a question but you're scared to ask. Just drop the boys a message. They're up to the task. They're rolling the dice. They ain't always nice, but you can't think twice when giving black and white advice. Black and white advice.
Turner Sparks
All right, everybody. Welcome to the show. My name is Turner Sparks. Feel the thrill behind the glass. On the ones and twos, we got Joe the Muscle Russell. Joe, how you doing?
Phil Duckett
Hello, everybody.
Turner Sparks
It's Russell Slimball.
Phil Duckett
Hey. He's back.
Turner Sparks
The EIB Network. One final time.
Phil Duckett
My fellow Americans. A day that will live in infamy.
Turner Sparks
Folks, we.
Phil Duckett
I'm Berliner. I believe that's what Kennedy said on his last podium speech. We have some sad but happy news. Okay. I love being your dad, but I don't know if I have what it takes. Your mom has found a better lover. So I'm going to the store to get some cigarettes, and I'm gonna let Turner take it from here.
Turner Sparks
We are transitioning the show. It is not goodbye. It's see you. It's see you later.
Phil Duckett
See you later. See you soon.
Turner Sparks
What we're doing is the podcast as you know it in this weekly podcast form, is going to, as they say in the business, sunset. Hey, we will sunset this show. This will be the final episode.
Phil Duckett
And it's not because we don't love you. All right? We love you. The listeners coach stint. When you hear this six weeks from now, because you behind. Thank you for listening, but we are transitioning to a live situation.
Turner Sparks
We did the live podcast or the live version of this podcast two or.
Phil Duckett
Three weeks ago, and it was just better.
Turner Sparks
It was so much better.
Phil Duckett
It was not even close. It was like, you know, I get it, but.
Turner Sparks
And we don't blame you.
Phil Duckett
No, no, no. Could you have liked and sent it to some friends? Possibly? But that wasn't in the cards for Us, we don't.
Turner Sparks
Here's what. Yeah, so we. We. It's. It. It works better as a live show because I think it's that it's immediate is that we're right there. It's.
Phil Duckett
People are writing questions as they think of them and putting them in the bucket and we get to interact with the people who ask the question because we thought a lot of people are going to go anonymous.
Turner Sparks
Wait, wait. Now that you know what I'm realizing right now, we've never. We. This is the first episode we've actually recorded since we did the live show. So we haven't even explained what happened. Yeah, it was great.
Phil Duckett
It was amazing.
Turner Sparks
It was so good that this show just got canceled.
Phil Duckett
That's how good the network was. Like, what are we doing?
Turner Sparks
Why are we do. Why are you doing that? You should just do the other thing. So yeah, the live show went so well. What happened? We had. We really had like 25 people.
Phil Duckett
25 people.
Turner Sparks
But that was enough.
Phil Duckett
Felt like Madison Square Garden.
Turner Sparks
Us felt like Madison Square Garden.
Phil Duckett
Me and Turner were on fire. The riffs were rapping and it will.
Turner Sparks
Be Madison Square Garden someday one day.
Phil Duckett
But guess what guys? Y' all can also. I'm thinking about we should maybe take it corporate. Go corporate with this shit.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Like it was that good. Like we. Since DEI dissolved. Turner taught me what that was earlier this season since DEI dissolved, we would be the best situation to like take to HR to break the ice, you know, understand like the questions you want to ask the co workers at work that you would never. You bring us as the mediators.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Phil Duckett
And we do the black and white advice show at your job corporate event. Yeah. It's like a team building experience.
Turner Sparks
The only issue is everyone now hates dei.
Phil Duckett
But no, they.
Turner Sparks
I think they hated it in the form it was it. No people. People are very. Every company's like canceling their DE because.
Phil Duckett
They really want Trump's funding. But guess what? Let's get into it. The Trump and Elon thing, bro.
Turner Sparks
Oh, it's fantastic.
Phil Duckett
Oh my God. Could you imagine? I think is. I knew it was going to end but I figured they'd be like professional about it. I'm so wrong. It is so petty.
Turner Sparks
It's pretty.
Phil Duckett
Did he drops the video of Trump and Epstein island with Epstein with the bitches. Bing, bang, boom, checkmate, bitch.
Turner Sparks
But yeah, but I don't. So who do you think is going to win this battle? I think Trump's going to win.
Phil Duckett
Well he's the president. If Trump gets out of office Elon would destroy him because he has more money.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but he has three and a half years left to go. That's how.
Phil Duckett
That's how Trump can really make his life difficult. He's going to move back to South Africa and take them.
Turner Sparks
Little did Trump really say last night was that a real tweet where he.
Phil Duckett
Said that he was going to take.
Turner Sparks
His funding where he said what it was. The tweet was like, mediocre musk is high on ketamine. Time to go back to Africa.
Phil Duckett
You. You.
Turner Sparks
Was that real?
Phil Duckett
That was the Onion.
Turner Sparks
Was that not real?
Phil Duckett
That was. I was like, no, that didn't come from.
Turner Sparks
If that was real. I was like, does he have Tony Hinchcliffe writing for him? Who's writing these?
Joe Russell
Isn't it funny that we thought that could be real?
Turner Sparks
Telling a white guy out of the realm of things, telling a white guy.
Phil Duckett
To go back to Africa is insane.
Turner Sparks
It was. No, but Trump can cancel. He's already said he's canceling all of his government contracts, which is like, billions of dollars.
Phil Duckett
He's like, you want me to make some room for some funding?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Well, I can't. Yeah. That's like, this is wild.
Turner Sparks
The other thing that's crazy.
Phil Duckett
I pray we don't get bombed soon, because this, I mean, what better time to come for America than this? We look so weak. We look. We're a joke. I honestly, somebody said they're like, I think, like, the rest of the world actually feels bad for us. I said, do you think that's how the world knows they will come and take over America?
Turner Sparks
Oh, no.
Phil Duckett
Like, dude, they don't.
Turner Sparks
Do you feel bad for, like, the Lakers when they're losing?
Phil Duckett
No. No one does feel bad for India.
Turner Sparks
We're the Lakers of America.
Phil Duckett
Okay, that was too far. But everyone hates, like, I don't care. Like, you know, problems outside of the U.S. i'm like, sorry, I don't really have the capacity for it. I know. It's so up to say that.
Turner Sparks
No, that's my point. You ever talk to people in LA who claim to be Lakers fans, and you're like, what do you think about what the Dallas Mavericks are doing? They're like, who? Yeah, I don't even. Never even heard of them.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, no, it's. It's gotten. It's gotten crazy.
Turner Sparks
Anyway, point is, we're gonna do a monthly live show. We don't know where yet.
Phil Duckett
It's gonna be in New York City. But listen, here's what we want you to know. We're Going to do these live shows, and then we're gonna clip it and then post it for y' all, like, share those shits. Because I think when you see what the live is versus the podcast, you're going to be like, holy shit, they're right.
Turner Sparks
You're going to fly in.
Phil Duckett
And then if you don't fly in, we get big enough, we can start touring this thing. We want to get into some. You know, we want to get into some festivals and things like that.
Turner Sparks
Corporate's a good idea, but comedy festivals, this is.
Phil Duckett
It's like, I don't want to limit myself to core. I'm just saying that'd be a lane that we would look at. We could do everything. I'm all about the money, y' all. If y' all don't know this, you guys could tell over these last couple of weeks, my life is in shambles. This is a cry for help.
Turner Sparks
We're getting real. Episode 35.
Phil Duckett
Episode 35. All right, I'm fighting for my fucking life, but we got to make money.
Turner Sparks
I would. I would. It would be the, like, number one thing I've ever done in my life. If I could be a DEI hire, that would be really. If I could be the one they bring in for DEI training.
Phil Duckett
The straight white man. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a Hail Mary, to say the least.
Turner Sparks
No, I'm saying it could have happened if this show. What I want to do. I'm going through our list here because I want to shout out our Patreons subscribers.
Joe Russell
Isn't it funny to think that if the audience was bad at the live show, the podcast would still be going on?
Phil Duckett
Well, we gotta be doing better than that. Yeah, but that's the thing. It was such a good first show. It's like, what mean?
Joe Russell
That's where it's at. Yeah, I agree.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. It was Turner. I was like, I had more fun doing the live show than I've ever had doing the podcast. No offense, you know?
Joe Russell
Yeah. I have to set up three cameras.
Phil Duckett
And I don't have to travel two days by mule and train to get here. Turner came to my house in the Bronx yesterday.
Turner Sparks
Oh, my God.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Yeah. He took the adventure. How long did it take you to get an hour and 20.
Turner Sparks
Hour and 20 minutes in an Uber? It said that. Said it would be 44 minutes.
Phil Duckett
Right.
Turner Sparks
And then it was one of those things you get in and it just keeps getting longer and.
Phil Duckett
Bro. And that's why I was like. When you were like, I'm in the Uber, I'M like, why wouldn't you just taking the train at this.
Turner Sparks
The train said an hour, five minutes, 44.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
So I'm like, I'll do the Uber and is an hour and 20 minutes to get there. By the time I got there, I was like, I'm quitting.
Phil Duckett
And then my air conditioning doesn't really. It works. But, like, I live in a greenhouse, so it was so hot in there. I felt bad for turn. I gave him a glass of water spot I could do.
Turner Sparks
He gave me water. It was great water. And then on the way out, I went. I was like, hey, can I get some to eat? So I go, he's.
Phil Duckett
I was like, there's a Popeyes down the street by the train.
Turner Sparks
There's a Popeyes down the street. I go into the Popeyes. I go, this is in the Bronx. First of all, bulletproof glass. All like, who's.
Phil Duckett
We protect our chicken.
Turner Sparks
People are shooting up the place for chicken, I guess on a regular basis. The Indian guy behind the. Behind the glass is scared for his life. And.
Phil Duckett
Nah. First of all, my boob definitely. He definitely was not for. He's a real. The guy works the Indian guys. The Indian people work at the Bronx. Popeyes are so cold.
Turner Sparks
Okay. So I go in there, and it's. It's. They have one of those, like, machines you order from. So I go put on all my information machine, go all the way through it. It takes five minutes because there's a line to even get to the front of the machine. Get to the front of the machine. Once you put in what you want, what drinks you want, what food you want, you get to the end, you put in your credit card, and it goes, oh, the machine's broken. But then tell you till the very end. So then you have to get back in the regular line, which by now.
Phil Duckett
Is almost out the door, because it's the Bronx. People love chicken.
Turner Sparks
10 or 15 people waiting, and the lady at the front waits for 10. Eight minutes. I'm gonna say eight minutes. And then.
Phil Duckett
Which. Eight minutes is a long time. We wait in line, by the way. Like, eight minutes. You don't realize how long 10 minutes is until you're, like, doing nothing. Eight minutes. Standing in line is out. Is out.
Turner Sparks
And she's in the front.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
There's 14.
Phil Duckett
So, you know, you got 38 minutes.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah. I'm doing the math.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
I'm 80 minutes away from getting to the front of this Popeye. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Let alone let them cook the chicken.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. And then also, the guy behind the glass just keeps walking back and forth, but not even acknowledging, not only that she's there, that there's other 14 people behind her. And so finally she goes, excuse me. And she taps on the glass, like, excuse me, can I. Can I order? And the guy's like, all right, fine. What do you want?
Phil Duckett
What do you want?
Turner Sparks
And I left.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
I'm like, I'm. I can hold it.
Phil Duckett
He's still mad. He. And get into medical school.
Turner Sparks
I took the train back downtown. An hour later, I ate dinner.
Phil Duckett
Oh.
Turner Sparks
And then I was like, yeah, this is too much.
Phil Duckett
Well, while I'm over here, I'm going to go get one of those chop sandwiches. There's this bodega that does the chopped. You ever seen that? Like, they take everything. They make the sandwich before they put in, they chop it. It's almost like confetti. The entire. Then they put it. It is the best sandwich.
Turner Sparks
What do they chop up?
Phil Duckett
Whatever.
Turner Sparks
Vegetables?
Phil Duckett
No, whatever you order. So if you order a club, but it's chopped, so everything they put, they make it. And then before they put the bread together, they just take it and they chop it with the fucking cleaver.
Turner Sparks
Is it one of those Instagram things?
Phil Duckett
It was a TikTok thing I saw. And I walked in, the line was out there. Like, this place been here since the 50s. They've been doing job.
Turner Sparks
It's around here.
Phil Duckett
It's literally right down the street from your house. When I just did this. I did this comedy club. There's a comedy club.
Turner Sparks
Oh, I know.
Phil Duckett
75 Park.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, right down.
Phil Duckett
I just did a show there.
Turner Sparks
Laughaholics or something. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
It's a Black Club.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
125 people. I went in there and I said, holy shit, it was such a great room.
Turner Sparks
It's two blocks away.
Phil Duckett
It is that. And so when I was. When I come out, I was starving. I'm. I just type in bodega and I'm walking. I said, this is where Turner lives?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And so I was like, I had no idea. So when I leave here, I'm going to get the chops.
Turner Sparks
I asked you a few months ago if you've heard of that club.
Phil Duckett
I never heard about it. And then I. And then I got a text like, hey, just confirming tonight, seven o' clock. I completely forgot. I booked it. And he paid me fucking 250 bucks. Wow.
Turner Sparks
How much time did you.
Phil Duckett
15 minutes.
Turner Sparks
Whoa.
Phil Duckett
Hamburger gave me. Hamburger handed me an envelope full of cash. I said, damn, I love black rooms. You know, I mean, so. But no I'm going to leave.
Turner Sparks
Because they play the real rate that you're supposed to get paid.
Phil Duckett
Well, black rooms. The thing is, black rooms don't. When you first start, they. They do pay, but not that great. But once you're in, like, once you're the headliner.
Turner Sparks
Were you headlining?
Phil Duckett
No.
Turner Sparks
I mean, you were closing now.
Phil Duckett
I wasn't even closing. He paid everybody that amazing dog. I was like, dog. I had no. It was 125 people, and they were charging 25 bucks a ticket.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but that's every. That's all the good clubs in New York City. Not naming names.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, they charge that.
Turner Sparks
That's all the ones we were.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, but the black rooms ate.
Turner Sparks
You get paid 75 bucks.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, I said 250. So everybody got 250 from what I know.
Turner Sparks
Wow.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Who else is on the line?
Phil Duckett
Me. P.D. abreu, Sydney, Washington, a comedian. I didn't know, but those are, like, the three big names.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Phil Duckett
But not. And it was a great show.
Turner Sparks
Was it good?
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Do the. Did you talk to any of the audience? I wonder if they all live around here.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, they're all Brooklyn people. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
That's awesome.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. So I was like, okay, I'll come back. But that's Ray Dejan's room. He's like. He started back in the day with Comic View, and, like, he's a producer.
Turner Sparks
Producer. Okay.
Phil Duckett
So he. Yeah, this, like, his fourth club.
Turner Sparks
Phil, there's one thing I forgot.
Phil Duckett
What?
Turner Sparks
ExpressVPN.com Turner, everybody go there. For the last time.
Phil Duckett
You've only. I don't even know why you had to do it because. Because 12 listeners we have aren't even going.
Turner Sparks
Hey, easy. That's. Oh, I want to shout out.
Phil Duckett
No.
Turner Sparks
ExpressVPN.com. you sign up now, you get two. I can't remember if it was two free months or 4 free.
Phil Duckett
You are horrible at this advertising.
Turner Sparks
I forgot the ad. I didn't bring it.
Phil Duckett
Oh, I'll be tight enough before tonight when you're hosting. He's gonna fire you.
Turner Sparks
All right, I want to shout out our Patreon subscribers. That I can remember. I was trying to get the full list up, and I can't find it anywhere but. Gretchen Evans. What's up? Shout Out. Rebecca Grapevine. This is our last show, so I.
Phil Duckett
Want to shout out Heard it through the Grapevine.
Turner Sparks
Tyler Sparks, my brother, Gary Sparks, my dad, Silent S. We never found out your real name. That's your uncle Silent S. That could be Silent Sparks.
Phil Duckett
Pretty much your family's. Back in this podcast.
Turner Sparks
Pascal Houser, Joe Barnes son. We had somebody sign up like yesterday.
Phil Duckett
So, so he's going to get a refund.
Turner Sparks
Shout out to him. Yeah, Drew Fralich.
Phil Duckett
We got a few more questions though before we. Oh yeah, bring it on home. We have some questions that y' all have never heard before and we're just gonna like spitfire and what we're gonna.
Turner Sparks
Do so we the next time. Well, yeah, we're gonna, we'll come back in a second and then we Patreon subscribers, we're doing a full Patreon at the end of this and everybody else, the next time you'll hear us is we're going to announce whenever we get our live dates sorted out, when the month, what location we're doing in New York City, what day of the month it is, all that kind of stuff. We'll come back on, we'll do it.
Phil Duckett
And also send in if you like want to see us and you're not in New York, send in the cities that y' all are in and let's just see and we'll just like kind of play around, see if maybe we can.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, why not?
Phil Duckett
Why not See if we can call some clubs in those cities and see if they would be down. Totally have us out there.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
I mean we'll start like that.
Turner Sparks
All right. We'll be right back with your black and white advice, questions and answers for the last time, gays.
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Turner Sparks
Hey, you want to get bonus content, early episodes and have your questions answered on the show?
Phil Duckett
Well, then subscribe to our patreon@patreon.com blackandwhiteadvice and subscribe right now.
Turner Sparks
Do it, and we'll give you a shout out on a future episode.
Phil Duckett
And I might call you the N word.
Turner Sparks
All right, we're back, everybody. First, all these questions, by the way, today come to us. They're from the live show. They're the ones we didn't answer in the live show, and we thought, why not do them here? Do them here on the podcast. First question is. And Joe Russell, by the way, grab a mic.
Phil Duckett
This last episode, you chime in, buddy.
Turner Sparks
Jump in on all these answers.
Phil Duckett
We don't want you to be motherfucking Anne Frank.
Turner Sparks
You got to do it as Rush Limbaugh.
Phil Duckett
And, Frank, I want you to be quiet.
Turner Sparks
Here's the. Is that what you're. Like mom used to say when you were being too quiet, stop being Aunt Franco.
Phil Duckett
Did you say something? Yes, ma' am.
Turner Sparks
All right, here's the first question. Who makes the best fried chicken, Koreans or blacks?
Phil Duckett
Man, don't even disrespect me with no stupid like that.
Turner Sparks
That's a great question.
Phil Duckett
That's a dumb question. First of all, Koreans just started making fried chicken, and you want to know how they started making good fried chicken? Motherfucker. All right, the fucking Korean War is when. When the. All the expats started fudgeing all y' all's hoes, and they was living over there, and they showed them how to fry chicken because most of them was from the south, and they stayed after the war was over. And Korean fried chicken is a spin off of fucking Southern fried chicken. Don't ever fucking play with me.
Joe Russell
But, Phil, these Asian people are working on it with precision for 80 years.
Phil Duckett
I will not have this debate with white men on whose chicken is better.
Turner Sparks
Korean fried chicken's so good.
Phil Duckett
It is very good. Yeah, it's very good. It's crispy. That's why you like it, because that's where they got. They got the crunch, but there's too many of them flavors. Nobody want no bok choy chicken wings. Keep it natural.
Turner Sparks
I'm. I don't think they have bok choy.
Phil Duckett
They got something vegetable. They have flavorings.
Turner Sparks
I know that. I know they have flavors.
Phil Duckett
I put my testicle on it. That there's a bok choy chicken wing out there.
Turner Sparks
No chances of buck.
Phil Duckett
Okay.
Turner Sparks
But they got other flavorings. They do have flavorings. Yeah. They're very good. They also got baseball at the same time. They're big into baseball from that war.
Phil Duckett
Oh, really?
Turner Sparks
Yeah. So, you know, they're not better than Japan. Not at baseball.
Phil Duckett
How did Japan's team get so good after we dropped that bomb on them?
Turner Sparks
Well, I think you, you know, we learned them a little bit. And sometimes you just got to be told a thing or two, and then you shape up.
Phil Duckett
Hey, shape up.
Turner Sparks
And you start swinging, you know, for power or whatever.
Phil Duckett
Oh, man, that's so great.
Turner Sparks
Not. I don't know how they got so good, but maybe because they also. The precision thing, that Joe the muscle.
Phil Duckett
There'S a lot of math. And they know velocity is physics. Baseball.
Turner Sparks
Yes. Right. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
They know how to, like, feel the wind. See, the.
Turner Sparks
I will say, I went to a Korean baseball game one time, and we were. Last summer, we were in Seoul, Korea, and I'm like, I want to go to a game. The game sold out. It's like 35,000 people there. Right. These guys are like, heroes. And there's one black dude on the.
Phil Duckett
Team just from Dominican Republic.
Turner Sparks
No, no. American.
Phil Duckett
Really?
Turner Sparks
American. Black guy hitting dingers just every time. Home run. Home run. The place is going bananas for him. And he lives in Seoul, South Korea. I looked it up. I think he makes, like, 350 grand a year. And then I also looked up his career. I'm like, who is this guy? He had been a career minor league, like, double triple AAA player in America. Got called up once or twice for a couple weeks by a few different teams. And then when he was 30, he was like, screw it. I'm moving to Korea. First off, you're playing double triple A baseball in America. You're making, like, 50 grand.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
So no one knows who you are. You're playing an empty stadium.
Phil Duckett
He has a statue now in Korea.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Or you're making 350 grand a year and you're a hero. Who wouldn' do that? And Soul's a big city. You're not out in the middle of nowhere.
Phil Duckett
Right. And they had the Olympics, so, you know, they got to be legit.
Turner Sparks
I'm like, why wouldn't everyone be doing this?
Phil Duckett
Do you remember what else happened in Seoul when Greg Luganus hit his head on the diving board?
Turner Sparks
Is that where he did it?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, it was at the 1988 Soul Games.
Turner Sparks
And he bled out.
Phil Duckett
Bled out. They emptied the pool.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Because there was an aid scare.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. They were like. He was like, he's gonna. Everybody up.
Turner Sparks
It's true. He's a graduate of University of Miami.
Phil Duckett
Is he?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, I went to my school.
Phil Duckett
He's probably where he got it.
Turner Sparks
Come on now, Phil.
Joe Russell
I once saw a Korean video of a person who taught a dog how to shoot a bow and arrow, and the dog was hitting targets. Like, if they can do that in.
Turner Sparks
Korea, they can make.
Joe Russell
They spent 10,000 hours with that dog.
Phil Duckett
Frying chicken is like.
Turner Sparks
Maybe they do have bok choy for chicken.
Phil Duckett
I'm telling you, they do.
Turner Sparks
Do you realize what bok choy is?
Phil Duckett
Yeah, it's a leafy vegetable.
Turner Sparks
It's like saying lettuce fried chicken.
Phil Duckett
Turner. I'm not an idiot. I'd eat bokoy. I don't. It is. And this is why. He just tried to white splain bok choy to me.
Turner Sparks
You said bok choy fried chicken.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. They season it with bok choy. Be like Italian seasoning, but it's bok choy for Asians.
Turner Sparks
Okay, dry.
Phil Duckett
They dry it. Grind it out, and then they put a bok choy rub on it.
Turner Sparks
I can't think of the other. It's like a sweet rubber. It's like. I think they might have invented, like, the sweet baby rays. You know that?
Phil Duckett
You know what? Y' all quit fucking playing with. Stop fucking playing with me. They created sweet baby rays.
Turner Sparks
Okay, next question. Yep, that's a fantastic question, by the way. We also should say at these live shows. I don't think we made it clear enough in advance, because everyone was surprised. All the questions are anonymous. People were telling me. Oh, even people.
Phil Duckett
They were telling us there are secrets, you know?
Turner Sparks
I mean, they were telling us they were scared. People were telling me they were scared to come, and they were, like, relieved when they got there, and then it wasn't. They didn't have to stand up and ask a question if they didn't want to.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
They could do it anonymously. So if you come to these shows, it's all anonymous. Your questions are anonymous. Here we go. Oh, here we go. This is one. Another one from the show. What cocktails do black people avoid at all costs?
Phil Duckett
Anything with white people names. Tom Collins.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
You know what I mean?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Arnold Palmer's Arnie Peas.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
I don't want no old white man's drink because there was a time they wouldn't let us take a sip of.
Turner Sparks
That motherfucker so do we know who Tom Collins is?
Phil Duckett
I have no idea who Tom's going. I know. It's a gin drink.
Turner Sparks
Anyone? I feel like gin.
Phil Duckett
I would drink a John Daly. I would drink one. You drink a John Daily. I would drink a John Daly. You know what I mean?
Turner Sparks
But Arnold Palmer with vodka.
Phil Duckett
Is that. Is that a real drink? Yeah, no.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, it's an Arnold Vodka.
Phil Duckett
Now I got to look it. Now I got to look that up. I'm like.
Turner Sparks
Because Arnold Palmer is. No, there's no alcohol in it.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
It's just lemonade and iced tea. So then a John Daly is Arnold Palmer. I'm almost.
Phil Duckett
Oh, yeah. John Day's cocktails. A Spike version of the Arnold Palmer. Wow.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
John Daly, huh? I would drink a John Daly.
Turner Sparks
I don't think he's an old racist, though.
Phil Duckett
I don't know. He's from Arkansas, so he might have said a couple times.
Turner Sparks
He probably has, but also.
Joe Russell
He probably has, but the sentence was I love.
Turner Sparks
No, you know what I'm thinking of? I think he's like boys with Barkley. Charles Barkley.
Phil Duckett
I can see it doesn't make. Well, he's from Alabama.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. He kind of runs in there.
Phil Duckett
So he might not.
Turner Sparks
There's that version of that southern white guy who's.
Phil Duckett
Who's just cool as with black people. I know those guys.
Turner Sparks
You know what I'm talking about? Their white trash.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. They grew up with black people.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Yeah.
Phil Duckett
I love those guys.
Turner Sparks
I think he might be that.
Phil Duckett
Those are the fun white people.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's great. Because he's also been screwed with by, like, they don't want him in any country clubs either.
Phil Duckett
Oh, he's smoking. Ripping six with a Bruski. I love John Daly.
Joe Russell
It's just because he doesn't shower. That's why I don't want him in there.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
They want him in the club.
Phil Duckett
He goes on benders.
Turner Sparks
He doesn't wear shirts. Have you seen him golf? He'll do.
Phil Duckett
Is he the Bert Kreischer of pga Pre.
Turner Sparks
Bur. Kreischer.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, he's. Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Before he's done whole things. Yeah. Where he'll just take his shirt off for, like, the. If he's losing by a lot and it comes down to the end, he'll take a shot. Shirt off for the 18th hole.
Phil Duckett
That's gangster.
Turner Sparks
And just play.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. I noticed they never cut to that. We never seen.
Turner Sparks
He might be the most. I like. I always think that the most highly skilled athletes of all time are the ones who are wildly out of shape, but could still compete at a professional level when everyone else had to be. Yeah, right.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Remember, you can kill.
Turner Sparks
Do you remember Hot Plate Williams, the basketball player? He played for the Harlem Globetrotter. No, he played for the LA Clippers.
Phil Duckett
And the Clovers were trash when they had Darius Miles. Probably.
Turner Sparks
It was. Yeah. Around that area. And he was like. He was their center. He might have been 400 pounds.
Phil Duckett
Mr.
Turner Sparks
Fat. Yeah, just full on. And then Pig Miller. Do you remember him? Anthony Pig Miller. Remember that guy? They were all just. There was an era in the 90s where you could just be a fat guy.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And still make it in the NBA.
Phil Duckett
That's when his game was still transitioned into full black.
Turner Sparks
They know these are all black guys.
Phil Duckett
Shut up.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Pig Miller.
Turner Sparks
Pig Miller.
Phil Duckett
I figured Hot Plate was pink.
Turner Sparks
Miller played with a toothpick in his mouth.
Phil Duckett
What was this, 1973? I think you're thinking of the ABA.
Turner Sparks
No, no, no. This is.
Phil Duckett
Playing with a toothpick in your mouth is crazy. I don't know if they ever let that happen.
Turner Sparks
I'm 100%. 100%.
Phil Duckett
Okay, well, that sounds a little. But, you know, that's why I said Harlem Globetrotters, because I'm like that. Yeah. Okay. That's pretty crazy. They also used to smoke cigs at halftime in the NBA, so.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, Vladi Zivak did throughout the 90s.
Phil Duckett
Jordan said when he first got to the Bulls, he was like. They were like doing coke on the plane.
Turner Sparks
And I remember him saying, yeah, that's good.
Phil Duckett
When they were. They lost like almost every game. When he got drafted as a franchise player. Yeah, he was like, oh, dude. He was like.
Turner Sparks
He was the rookie and he had to go tell all the old guys to shape up, basically because they were.
Phil Duckett
All just drunk coke and smoking cigs at halftime.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
NBA was a different place.
Turner Sparks
Amazing. The 1986 Mets, do you ever read about them? Daryl Strawberry and Doc Gooden.
Phil Duckett
Well, I know he, Daryl Strawberry, battled with addiction.
Turner Sparks
So the whole team. I read there's a book called the Bad Guys. One about the story of when they.
Phil Duckett
Won the World Series.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, they were fucked up the whole time, dude. The book's amazing. It's. It's. Basically, it's written by the. Who was the guy who was the beat writer for them at the time. So he went to every single game. He was on the plane with them. Their. Gary Carter was on the team. Kevin Mitchell, remember that outfielder? They said Kevin Mitchell was like a real life gang member and would rob cars in the parking lot during the game.
Phil Duckett
Why was he not on the field?
Turner Sparks
Like, if he wasn't in that day, if he wasn't playing or when they were in the dugout, he would, at some points during games, he would run out to the parking lot and break into people's cars and then run back in.
Phil Duckett
The MLB wasn't paying back then. What the. I have no Aaron Hernandez.
Turner Sparks
I have no idea. No. But he wasn't killing people.
Phil Duckett
But he didn't start killing people until later.
Turner Sparks
The book basically says that these guys would have won. They had the talent to win like five rings in a row. And because they were all just coked out of their mind, drugged out of the mind, they won one.
Phil Duckett
It's called the Bad Guys one.
Turner Sparks
It's called the Bad Guys one. It's maybe the best book I've ever written. The story of the 86 Mets and the. The manager. The what they call it managers.
Phil Duckett
That Basel calls them the coach.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. At the time was his rule was do whatever you want as long as we win. I don't care what you do as long as we win. And so they just destroyed everybody for like one season.
Phil Duckett
That's amazing.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Next question.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Why do some black people say ax acts instead. Instead of ask. I can barely say it. Oh, and then there's another one in this one, but we'll start with that one. Why do people. Why do black people say accents? Is it. Here's my question. Is it a conscious choice, do you think?
Phil Duckett
No, it's how they were taught. That's what they heard. If your parents say it, then you're going to say it. That's what, that's how you. That's how you learn English. Yeah. And like you start talking years before you ever go to school. So by the time you're talking, you say ax.
Turner Sparks
So he's running around saying ax.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Cuz that's what they hear their grandma say. Your grandma says or something like that. You know, my mom's an English teacher, so. But I have cousins like in South Carolina who they don't. The color orange. They. They're like, orange, it's earned.
Turner Sparks
So it's just. It's just something.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. And I remember I was like, why the. What the is orange. And that's what orange is. And like there's. Oh, eat that orange over there. And so acts the same. People say orange say X. I think.
Joe Russell
It'S all Southern just in general.
Phil Duckett
I think that's a Southern thing. I think it's slavery talk.
Turner Sparks
I've never heard a white person say.
Phil Duckett
I have never heard. And I'd be like, first of all, where are you from? I'd be like, all right.
Turner Sparks
That would kind of be cool now.
Phil Duckett
It would show his. His economic, socio. Economical status.
Turner Sparks
If John Daly. Maybe John Daly might say.
Phil Duckett
John Daly could possibly say. Can I ask y' all something?
Turner Sparks
Did you ever. I knew kids who used to say ambulance instead of ambulance.
Phil Duckett
Ambulance. That's how my cousin say ambulance.
Turner Sparks
Ambulance.
Phil Duckett
Ambulance.
Turner Sparks
I knew kids. So there's a part of.
Phil Duckett
So you're in California. So they might vote for. I'm from the South.
Turner Sparks
Ambulance.
Phil Duckett
They're like what? An ambulance called an ambulance.
Turner Sparks
I wonder if it's a version of that. There's. I'm from California, but I'm from inland. And there's some hills. There's some like the hills have eyes. The hills out there. There's hill people around where I'm from. And they would. They couldn't. This is like in high school. They're like 17 year olds and they're saying, ambulance.
Phil Duckett
Ambulance. I got cousins say ambulance. 100% ambulance. I was like, avalanche.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. So maybe it's just that for Some reason the AX1 is the one that befuddles white people.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. You're not that poor.
Turner Sparks
We stick on that one.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, we're poor. We're not Axe. Poor.
Turner Sparks
Yes.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. It's a different. Yeah, I guess. And then this person had a follow up question. Why. Why don't they. I assume this means black people. Why don't they replace the batteries and smoke alarms? I don't even know that was a thing. Like a racial thing.
Phil Duckett
If you watch TikTok or any video, there's normally in a black video, it's a beep.
Turner Sparks
There's a beep in the video.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. And honestly, because, let's be honest, what are the chances we're actually gonna have a house fire? Okay. You know how much batteries cost? I can use that little $12 right now. So, yeah, don't nobody leave the stove home. And we probably won't need it.
Turner Sparks
But is that also a socioeconomic thing?
Phil Duckett
No. Even black people I know with money, they'll. Rich black people, they'll let it beep for like a day or two. Now poor people let it be forever.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Like people money. It's going to be for a day or two.
Turner Sparks
Spike Lee lives down the street. If we went to his house, it'd be a beep.
Phil Duckett
It might be a beep.
Turner Sparks
We had a beep. We went to China for on that Korea trip last summer, we went to China for, like, 10 days, and then Korea for five or something. And two days into our trip, the neighbors on this floor started texting us that we were. We were beeping our smoke alarm, and we were like. We left.
Phil Duckett
White people texted you all that you're beeping?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
That's how you know this is a white neighborhood. And because that's crazy, no black person ever calls them and be like, hey, man, you check your smoke alarm? Like, yeah, bitch, what the fuck is your problem for?
Turner Sparks
Yeah, multiple. Multiple people on the floor, different households. But, like, hey, they didn't call you.
Phil Duckett
To say it was a fire. They said there's a beep.
Turner Sparks
You think you're annoying us. Yeah, your smoke alarm's going off. But guess what? And, yeah, you're right. So there's a black lady who lives right here behind us, and she didn't say anything. But I will say this. We left keys with her and then with the other white couple. And the other white couple. Three. Three group. Different groups.
Phil Duckett
You gave out three sets of keys to start to the neighbors.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, in case. In case you get locked out.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. Okay.
Turner Sparks
You got to get back.
Phil Duckett
Needs my key. Yeah, well, it didn't work out. A free for all.
Turner Sparks
Everyone. Everyone lost our keys. So we. We told them all. We're like, okay, well, you have keys. They have keys. And then the other people have keys. So one of you guys just go in there. You can. You can unplug it.
Phil Duckett
You know, the chance of three things. They threw them away. I guess they're like, yeah, okay, Turner.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but then. Then it's their fault then. So we didn't feel bad about the smart alarm. We're like, we gave you. You had our keys. Joe, what are you doing over there? We told you to be on. You're on this show.
Phil Duckett
Hey, man, Joe's over it, man. She says the show's done.
Turner Sparks
You're not even paying it. Joe's.
Joe Russell
No, I'm looking up Daryl Strawberry's crimes.
Turner Sparks
Oh, yeah, I forgot. We got to do a fact check at the end of this thing, so. Okay, so this is from. We didn't get to this question, but I know who it was from, and I'll just say in vague terms it was from an Asian woman in the crowd at our live show. And. But we didn't get to it. But she says, how do you explain to a child that the N word is very bad and why he should never say it's.
Phil Duckett
So I'm assuming the Asian lady I.
Turner Sparks
Know she has like an eight year old boy.
Phil Duckett
Well, she. She was Asian. Her husband was white. So this little half Asian baby turning.
Turner Sparks
Around saying, I think she might be from.
Phil Duckett
And they're rich. Because she told me that we were at our daughter's violin lesson. So that makes you. Let me tell you something. Let me say. See how much violence? They're not giving those away, Turner. All right? Not to some Asian white baby. They're paying high dollar.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, but if you're Asian, sometimes you put all your money into the violin lessons.
Phil Duckett
Now, she said her husband was in tech. They got money.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, they're doing all right.
Phil Duckett
Yeah. So your little mixed baby, who has no black descent, shouldn't be saying at all. Especially if they play a fucking classical instrument.
Turner Sparks
No, no, I think she knows he shouldn't be saying her thing.
Phil Duckett
How do you explain it?
Turner Sparks
How do you explain that he should show.
Phil Duckett
Show him the movie Roots.
Turner Sparks
I would assume he's trying to say it as like a cool way. Yeah, like, I live in Brooklyn, I'm cool.
Phil Duckett
You live in a brownstone in Brooklyn. You're not fudgeing. Cool. Tell them that. Look at where you live. I will drop you off in the projects. You make it a week.
Turner Sparks
Now that's the answer.
Phil Duckett
You.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, you.
Phil Duckett
I'll drop you off in the project for a week. If I come back in a week, you're still alive. You can say every day.
Turner Sparks
Yeah, there you go. But, mom, it rolls off the tongue. What if he just makes it in the project? They love him.
Phil Duckett
He just comes a kingpin. Yeah, they take him under his wing.
Turner Sparks
Mom, I'm not coming home after a week.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, that'd be. And then I'd be like, say, nick away.
Turner Sparks
There you go. That's the. That's the deal. That's.
Phil Duckett
Mom, that chicken is so much better than yours because you've never been to Korea, baby.
Turner Sparks
Joe Russell, for the final time, what did we get right? Should we do fact check? Should we add. I was thinking, should that be something we add to the live show?
Phil Duckett
No, let's not overcomplicate this.
Turner Sparks
Okay.
Joe Russell
Okay, so number one, what do we get right?
Turner Sparks
What do we get?
Joe Russell
You got right, that. Yes, the pod is ending.
Turner Sparks
What was our big argument about? Oh, if there's bot. Is there such thing as bok choy fried chicken?
Joe Russell
I didn't look it up, but. No, there isn't.
Phil Duckett
I'll do my own fact check. We need a second opinion.
Turner Sparks
It's not a spice that you would.
Phil Duckett
Make it Bach choy fried.
Turner Sparks
Can I do one fact Check of my own. By the way, there's been multiple times on this show where I've said something. Phil's told me I'm wrong, convinced me I'm wrong, and then I look it up afterwards and I was right.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
One of them.
Phil Duckett
They've only done stir fry, bok choy, fried chicken.
Turner Sparks
Oh, well, it's not a flavor. I'm.
Phil Duckett
I'm going to make it now.
Turner Sparks
Okay, sounds good.
Phil Duckett
All right.
Turner Sparks
One. You. We were talking with Ari. We were talking about the neighborhood down the street where Jay Z grew up. And I was like, oh, he grew up in a Jewish neighborhood? And you're like, no, the Jews came way later.
Phil Duckett
Totally wrong.
Turner Sparks
I googled it. The Jews moved there in like the 1920s or something.
Phil Duckett
Really?
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And they let Jay Z live there.
Turner Sparks
He grew up in like the 80s.
Phil Duckett
They were the landlords.
Turner Sparks
No, he's from the. What do they call? Marcy? Projects.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Turner Sparks
And. But all around the project is the Jew is the Hasidic Jew.
Phil Duckett
So how did the projects get built if it was Jewish land? They allowed that?
Turner Sparks
Well, it's government lands.
Phil Duckett
Oh, got you.
Turner Sparks
What's the point? I don't know. What's your point?
Phil Duckett
I don't either.
Turner Sparks
Okay. All right, what else do we got?
Joe Russell
Okay. The recipe for a Tom Collins.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Joe Russell
Is it's a refreshing gin based cocktail. Typically consists of gin, lemon juice, simple syrup and club soda served over ice. A maraschino cherry and lemon slice are often used for garnish.
Turner Sparks
And who is Tom Collins? Do we know or not?
Joe Russell
In 1874, a practical joke spread where people would claim to know a Tom Collins who is supposedly talking about others, often leading to listeners to seek out the supposed Tom Collins and get served the drink.
Turner Sparks
Wait, it's like a can.
Phil Duckett
He was like a gossiper.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And. And they were like, it was some guy who was fucked up on gin and he was gossiping and they're like, oh, Tom Collins over here.
Turner Sparks
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
And oh, my God, we got to make a Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
Some chatty patty. Yeah, yeah.
Phil Duckett
Telling all Phil Duckett.
Turner Sparks
Is that it?
Joe Russell
Unless you want to hear Daryl Strawberry's crimes.
Turner Sparks
Yes, of course we do.
Joe Russell
Child Support Violations, 1995. Drug and solicitation charges.
Phil Duckett
Trying to buy dope.
Turner Sparks
Buying.
Joe Russell
Buying cocaine. Yeah. He tried to buy cocaine off of an undercover officer. Tax evasion. Sure. Violations of probation. And then he's also charged for following or filing police records. Fake police report.
Phil Duckett
Oh, nice.
Joe Russell
So he's just.
Phil Duckett
Man, I think he got a bad rap. Those aren't that bad.
Turner Sparks
Yeah. Plus He's a. He can.
Phil Duckett
He won a World Series.
Turner Sparks
I was gonna say that should absolve you of all crimes.
Phil Duckett
Yeah, he should have done these crimes in New York.
Joe Russell
His name wants me to eat strawberries. Makes me want strawberries.
Phil Duckett
Daryl. Strawberries.
Joe Russell
Yeah.
Phil Duckett
Yeah.
Joe Russell
Makes me hungry for berries.
Turner Sparks
Good one. That's the show. I think that's a good way.
Phil Duckett
That's a good way to end it.
Turner Sparks
Next time we talk to you guys, it will be an announcement right here for the start of our monthly live show. Thank you all, every Patreon subscriber, thank you very much. Every listener, thank you very much. And Patreon subscribers, stick around. We still got more for you. Everybody else, stay black.
Phil Duckett
Hey, black, you've got a question but.
Turner Sparks
You'Re scared to ask?
Phil Duckett
Just drop the boys a message?
Turner Sparks
Cause they're up to the task?
Phil Duckett
They're all in the dice? They ain't always nice? But you can't think twice and give it black and white advice? Black and white.
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Black and White Advice: The Final Episode (But The Show Continues)
Hosts: Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett
Release Date: June 10, 2025
1. Transition Announcement
In what marks a significant turning point for the beloved podcast Black and White Advice, hosts Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett announce that this episode will serve as the final installment of the weekly podcast format. However, they reassure their dedicated listeners that the essence of the show will live on through a new live format.
"We are transitioning the show. It is not goodbye. It's see you. It's see you later." [01:45] – Turner Sparks
"We did the live podcast or the live version of this podcast two or three weeks ago, and it was just better." [02:25] – Phil Duckett
2. Rationale Behind the Transition
The decision to sunset the weekly podcast stems from the overwhelmingly positive response to their recent live show. Turner and Phil highlight the superior engagement and immediate interaction that live performances offer compared to the traditional podcast setup. They emphasize the dynamic nature of live shows, where spontaneity and real-time feedback enrich the content.
"It's gonna be in New York City. But listen, here's what we want you to know. We're Going to do these live shows, and then we're gonna clip it and then post it for y' all, like, share those shits." [06:33] – Phil Duckett
"We did the live podcast or the live version of this podcast two or three weeks ago, and it was just better. It was so much better." [02:25] – Turner Sparks
3. Future Plans
Looking ahead, Turner and Phil outline their ambitious plans to expand the show's reach. They intend to establish a monthly live show schedule, primarily based in New York City, with aspirations to tour and participate in comedy festivals. Additionally, they contemplate corporate events, leveraging their platform to facilitate conversations around race in professional settings.
"They get to interact with the people who ask the question because we thought a lot of people are going to go anonymous." [02:49] – Phil Duckett
"We want to get into some festivals and things like that. It's like, I don't want to limit myself to core." [06:53] – Phil Duckett
4. Highlights from the Q&A Session
The core of this final episode centers around a lively Q&A session, where Turner, Phil, and guest Joe Russell delve into various questions submitted by listeners. The discussions are candid, humorous, and sometimes provocative, staying true to the show's mission of addressing all questions on race, even the most challenging ones.
a. Who Makes the Best Fried Chicken: Koreans or Blacks?
One of the standout questions sparks a spirited debate over the culinary prowess of different communities. Phil defends the rich history of Black Southern fried chicken, while acknowledging the growing popularity and unique flavors of Korean fried chicken.
"Korean fried chicken's so good. It is very good. Yeah, it's very good. It's crispy." [17:10] – Phil Duckett
"Korean fried chicken is a spin-off of Southern fried chicken... don't ever fucking play with me." [17:15] – Phil Duckett
b. What Cocktails Do Black People Avoid at All Costs?
The hosts humorously explore the cultural implications of certain cocktail names, touching upon historical contexts and contemporary preferences within the Black community.
"Anything with white people names. Tom Collins. Arnold Palmer's Arnie Peas." [22:14] – Phil Duckett
"I would drink a John Daly. I would drink one. You drink a John Daily." [22:17] – Phil Duckett
c. Explaining the N-Word to a Child
Addressing a more sensitive topic, the hosts provide advice on how to communicate the gravity and historical weight of the N-word to young children. They emphasize education through media such as the film Roots, combined with real-life context to foster understanding and respect.
"Tell them that. Look at where you live. I will drop you off in the projects for a week. If I come back in a week, you're still alive. You can say every day." [33:19] – Phil Duckett
"How do you explain it? Show him the movie Roots." [33:02] – Turner Sparks
d. Socioeconomic Factors Affecting Home Safety Practices
A listener’s inquiry about why some Black individuals might neglect replacing batteries in smoke alarms opens a dialogue on socioeconomic challenges and cultural attitudes towards safety practices. The hosts discuss how financial constraints and communal behaviors influence such decisions.
"Because what are the chances we're actually gonna have a house fire?... no, nobody leave the stove home." [29:44] – Phil Duckett
"But is that also a socioeconomic thing?" [29:30] – Turner Sparks
e. Athletic Performance and Physical Fitness
The discussion veers into the realm of sports, with references to historical athletic figures and the intersection of physical fitness with racial identity. The hosts reflect on how certain athletes defied expectations and stereotypes through their unique approaches to sports and fitness.
"I always think that the most highly skilled athletes of all time are the ones who are wildly out of shape, but could still compete." [24:23] – Turner Sparks
"Hot Plate Williams played for the Harlem Globetrotters... he could smoke cigarettes during halftime." [25:02] – Both Hosts
5. Engaging Listener Interactions
Throughout the Q&A, the inclusion of humor and personal anecdotes keeps the conversation engaging. For instance, Phil shares his experience of performing at a comedy club in the Bronx, highlighting the camaraderie and unique challenges of live performances.
"He was like, he was a comedian. I did a show there... Got paid 250 bucks." [11:44] – Phil Duckett
"And then you have to get back in the regular line, which by now is almost out the door, because it's the Bronx. People love chicken." [09:45] – Turner Sparks
6. Conclusion and Farewell
As the episode draws to a close, Turner and Phil extend heartfelt thanks to their Patreon subscribers and loyal listeners. They reiterate their commitment to the upcoming live shows and express optimism about the show's future direction. The hosts leave their audience with a blend of humor and sincerity, ensuring that the spirit of Black and White Advice will continue to educate and entertain.
"Next time we talk to you guys, it will be an announcement right here for the start of our monthly live show." [37:16] – Turner Sparks
"They're all in the dice? They ain't always nice? But you can't think twice and give it black and white advice?" [37:43] – Phil Duckett
Final Thoughts
Black and White Advice: The Final Episode (But The Show Continues) serves as both a farewell and a gateway to a new chapter for Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett. By embracing the live show format, the hosts aim to deepen their connection with the audience, fostering more interactive and impactful discussions on race and society. This episode encapsulates the essence of their comedic yet insightful approach, leaving listeners eagerly anticipating what lies ahead.