Ye Ye: Happy Chinese New Year!

Summary

Black and White Advice Podcast: "Ye Ye: Happy Chinese New Year!" Summary

Episode Release Date: January 28, 2025
Hosts: Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett
Guests: Yay Sparks (Turner's wife)

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1. Introduction to the Chinese New Year Episode

In this special episode titled "Ye Ye: Happy Chinese New Year!", hosts Turner Sparks and Phil Duckett delve into the rich traditions and cultural nuances of the Chinese New Year. Joined by Turner’s wife, Yay Sparks, a Chinese cooking instructor, the trio offers a blend of humor and insightful discussions to celebrate the Year of the Snake.

2. The Year of the Snake vs. Year of the Dragon

The episode opens with a light-hearted debate about the actual zodiac animal for the year. While Phil initially believes it's the Year of the Dragon, Yay clarifies the cultural distinctions:

• Phil Duckett [02:02]: "It's the year of the Dragon."
• Yay Sparks [02:13]: "Snake is also a form of snake is also called little dragon. So it's a little dragon year."

This clarification highlights the variation in cultural interpretations, explaining that in certain parts of China, dragons are perceived as more evolved forms of snakes, embodying traits like fire and magic.

3. Traditional Foods and Tasting

A significant portion of the episode focuses on traditional Chinese New Year foods. Yay introduces a dish consisting of yellow gelatinous rice balls filled with black sesame seeds:

• Yay Sparks [07:24]: "These are filled with a black sesame seed paste. So it's a sweet."
• Phil Duckett [10:00]: "It's a texture... like a Reese's peanut butter cup."

The hosts taste the dish, discussing its texture and flavor profile. Phil humorously mentions his peanut allergy, while Yay reassures him about the ingredients:

• Phil Duckett [10:03]: "I might call you the N word." (Humorous exchange about the presence of peanuts)

They also discuss the traditional practice of drinking baijiu, a Chinese distilled spirit, emphasizing its role in cultural rituals:

• Phil Duckett [11:06]: "There's a 1, 2, 3, 5... there's no fourth floor."
• Yay Sparks [16:17]: "Baiji is from the oldest distillery in China."

4. Listener Questions

The episode transitions into the Q&A segment, where Turner and Phil address questions from listeners, providing candid and educational responses.

a. Understanding Chinese Language Nuances among Black People in China

Question from Sam in Bangkok:
Sam shares an anecdote about a black individual in China who struggled to understand Chinese speakers when they only said words like "this" or "that."

• Phil Duckett [22:07]: "Keep your mouth shut unless it comes up. Why would you all of a sudden be like, you know, that's over there."

Phil advises discretion, suggesting that such topics should only be discussed if they naturally arise in conversation to avoid awkwardness or misunderstandings.

b. Microaggressions: Reality and Impact

Question from Kevin in Rhode Island:
Kevin inquires about the legitimacy and impact of microaggressions, providing examples like compliments that unintentionally offend.

• Phil Duckett [26:15]: "They are very real. Very real. Very, very real a thing."

Turner and Phil agree that microaggressions are genuine and can be hurtful, even if unintentional. They discuss scenarios where behaviors perceived as microaggressions arise, such as store owners following customers due to stereotypes about theft.

• Phil Duckett [26:29]: "At the beauty supply stores all the time. They support. They always follow you around like you need help."

c. Dancing and Cultural Stereotypes

Question from Mia in North Carolina:
Mia questions why certain groups, presumably white individuals, struggle to stay on beat while dancing.

• Phil Duckett [34:02]: "Y'all dance to have fun. Y'all don't dance to stay on beat."

The hosts humorously critique the stereotype that white people can't dance well, emphasizing cultural differences in dance styles and expressions of joy.

• Turner Sparks [34:10]: "They're having a good time. They do?"

d. Smiling in Pictures: Cultural Perspectives

Question from Jeff in Lexington, Kentucky:
Jeff wonders why black men often appear serious or don't smile in photographs.

• Phil Duckett [37:44]: "They are a statement piece. Especially with you with the homies. Last thing you want to do is be in a photo where everybody's mean mugging."

Turner and Phil explore historical and cultural reasons behind this phenomenon, touching on generational differences and the influence of past conflicts like World Wars that affected generations' demeanor in photographs.

• Turner Sparks [38:53]: "There’s not a single pic and he's usually looking like confused."

5. Additional Discussions and Insights

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in various entertaining discussions:

• Resilience of Rats:
  At [05:01], Turner and Phil discuss rats' ability to survive nuclear fallout, debunking myths with factual insights.

  • Phil Duckett [05:06]: "I'm on it, folks."

• Cultural Etiquette in Drinking:
  They delve into the proper way to pour baijiu, emphasizing respect and tradition in Chinese etiquette.

  • Phil Duckett [11:01]: "He knows what he was doing is the camera."

• Cultural Misunderstandings:
  Funny anecdotes about misinterpreting gestures and language barriers highlight the challenges and humor in cross-cultural interactions.

  • Phil Duckett [21:14]: "How about we just stay on language?"

6. Conclusion and Symbolism of the Snake

As the episode wraps up, Turner and Phil summarize the symbolic significance of the Year of the Snake:

• Turner Sparks [42:24]: "The snake's ability to shed its skin symbolizes letting go of the past and embracing the new. The snake is also a symbol of wisdom, cunning, and adaptability."

They extend their best wishes to listeners, celebrating the cultural richness of the Chinese New Year and encouraging a deeper understanding of its traditions and symbols.

• Phil Duckett [42:40]: "Happy snake season."

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Notable Quotes:

• Phil Duckett [22:07]: "Keep your mouth shut unless it comes up."
• Phil Duckett [26:15]: "They are very real. Very real. Very, very real a thing."
• Phil Duckett [34:02]: "Y'all dance to have fun. Y'all don't dance to stay on beat."
• Phil Duckett [37:44]: "They are a statement piece. Especially with you with the homies."
• Turner Sparks [42:24]: "The snake's ability to shed its skin symbolizes letting go of the past and embracing the new."

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Final Thoughts:

"Ye Ye: Happy Chinese New Year!" successfully blends humor with educational content, offering listeners a comprehensive look into Chinese New Year traditions, cultural stereotypes, and the intricacies of race relations. Turner Sparks, Phil Duckett, and Yay Sparks create an engaging and enlightening conversation that both entertains and informs, staying true to the podcast's mission of addressing race-related questions with candor and wit.

Transcript

[Turner Sparks]

He said, I think every black person that has gone to China has a great story about the first time they figured out how Chinese people say the words. Or that one. Oh, yeah, he knows what I'm talking about.

[Phil Duckett]

It's around, ain't it?

[Turner Sparks]

It is.

[Phil Duckett]

It is crazy. Have you ever had a question you wanted to ask the opposite race but you were too nervous to ask?

[Turner Sparks]

I'm Turner Sparks.

[Phil Duckett]

And I'm Phil Duckett.

[Turner Sparks]

And this is Black and white advice.

[Phil Duckett]

But we answer all your questions about race, even the scary ones.

[Turner Sparks]

This is black and White adv question.

[Yay]

But you're scared to ask.

[Phil Duckett]

Just drop the boys a message.

[Yay]

Cause they're up to the task.

[Phil Duckett]

They're all in the dice.

[Yay]

They ain't always nice. But you can't think twice when giving. Black and white and.

[Turner Sparks]

Black and white. What's up, everybody? Welcome to the show. My name is Turner Sparks and they.

[Phil Duckett]

Call me Chaching Philly G. Whoa. Chinese New Year, baby.

[Turner Sparks]

Welcome. You're the Snake. How we doing? Gongxi Fat Sai. We got Joe the muscle Russell on the ones and the twos behind the glass.

[Phil Duckett]

Hello.

[Turner Sparks]

What's up, folks? Hey. It's the year of the Snake. We're doing a Chinese New Year's episode. And look at if you're not. If you're listening to us right now on whatever podcast, go to YouTube and watch us.

[Phil Duckett]

Because I'm wearing silk. You see me?

[Turner Sparks]

We're all Chinese New Year's up. We got full on red. And we got your black and white advice questions coming up soon. We got Joe Russell, Dark White lies and dark truths coming up later. This has been a long day. But before all that, we got my wife. Yes. Sparks Cooking with Yay is the name of the company Chinese cooking instructor teaching us all about Chinese New Year. Welcome to the show. How you doing?

[Yay]

Good, good. Happy the year of the Dragon.

[Phil Duckett]

It's the year of the Dragon.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

I thought you said it was the snake.

[Turner Sparks]

The year of the dragon.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, snake.

[Yay]

Oh, my gosh. Okay.

[Phil Duckett]

Are you from China?

[Yay]

Snake is also a form of snake is also called little dragon. So it's a little dragon year.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, so wait, in China, they think so. Dragons are a form of snake. They just more evolved with legs and fire.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

Wow.

[Yay]

More magical.

[Phil Duckett]

I did not know that. I'm here to drag it. That's why I was like, is it really my year again?

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. But most people would call the year the snake, right?

[Yay]

Yeah, yeah, it is a year of the snake. But you can celebrate the way you celebrated Dragon Year.

[Turner Sparks]

There you go. So it's back to back years.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

And wait, what? We were talking off air. Phil's daughter was born January 2nd of 2024.

[Phil Duckett]

Right?

[Yay]

January the second.

[Turner Sparks]

What year would that be? Like this year, 2024.

[Phil Duckett]

She just turned one.

[Yay]

I don't think she's dragon.

[Turner Sparks]

What was before you dragon was that rabbit.

[Yay]

Rabbit. Rabbit.

[Phil Duckett]

She's not a hair, she's a rabbit. No, I don't like those.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, you're just going to say no to that because she doesn't identify predators.

[Phil Duckett]

I mean, rabbits are prey. All right? Dragons are predators. We do to attack it and we kill shit. Bunnies get murdered by everything.

[Yay]

Very good.

[Phil Duckett]

Is it?

[Yay]

Yeah. Well, even though they. A lot of people eat them. But there's a legend. Do you know that it's like a mid Autumn festival.

[Phil Duckett]

The Mid Autumn festival here.

[Yay]

And then you go see like the.

[Phil Duckett]

The Easter bunny.

[Yay]

Yeah, you see, not eastern bunny. Like you admire the moon. Full moon. Full full moon. And then you'll see like a shade of a tree and then a beautiful lady and then a rabbit.

[Phil Duckett]

What type of shrooms are those?

[Turner Sparks]

It's like the harvest festival.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, do we have them?

[Turner Sparks]

We do not have that.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, that's why I'm like, what are.

[Yay]

We talking about Thanksgiving later today? No, you have Thanksgiving.

[Phil Duckett]

Thanksgiving, yeah. Okay. And Halloween. And like. You mean the stuff around the fall time?

[Turner Sparks]

So like gets full.

[Yay]

Rabbits usually like, they're pets of those, like mythical emperors or like princess pets.

[Phil Duckett]

Our rabbits.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay, so my daughter is a royalty.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Yay]

Well, there are no bat animals.

[Phil Duckett]

There's a rat ear. I saw that.

[Yay]

Well, rats really good.

[Phil Duckett]

How is. How's the snitch smart thing? Oh, they're smart now.

[Yay]

Yeah, they're good business.

[Turner Sparks]

They're conniving.

[Phil Duckett]

God, they're coming. Yeah, they're cunning. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

They're good at business, America. Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Connotation, for sure.

[Yay]

A little shrewd. But usually they are like really good at not calculating. I don't want to use that word. But like, they can.

[Phil Duckett]

They can get out of any situations and survive any nuclear.

[Yay]

That's right.

[Turner Sparks]

There is street.

[Phil Duckett]

They're like roaches. They're roaches.

[Yay]

Street smart.

[Phil Duckett]

Is it?

[Turner Sparks]

We gotta fact check that at the end. Can rats. Survival. Nuclear holocaust.

[Phil Duckett]

I'm on it, folks.

[Turner Sparks]

Later. So what are we eating today? Ye brought food for us.

[Yay]

Okay, so Phil, let me ask you. What food do you think Chinese people eat during Chinese New Year?

[Phil Duckett]

Like based off what this looks like?

[Yay]

This is not relevant.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, okay.

[Yay]

I mean, this is relevant, but not.

[Phil Duckett]

Gotcha.

[Yay]

What Do I forget about what I'm serving you?

[Phil Duckett]

Okay. What do I think people eat during? I feel like you have to eat whatever your year is.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, like a snake or a rat or a rabbit or a dragon or like.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. Or like two snakes, since it's a great idea.

[Turner Sparks]

Everyone eats their own dish.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

You would eat a drink.

[Phil Duckett]

I would be mad as if I got rat. I swear to God. I'd be like, ain't no. I don't care how you spin it.

[Turner Sparks]

Wait, I'm here. The dog that seems like just go. Golden retriever.

[Phil Duckett]

So dog isn't a puppy. Puppy puppies. Okay.

[Turner Sparks]

People do in certain parts of the country.

[Phil Duckett]

Y'all know it. I thought that was just a racist thing. We said dogs are really eaten in China.

[Turner Sparks]

In certain parts of the country, there's a dog. Small.

[Yay]

Very small amount of people eat them. And then now they're. Yeah. Not. Not a lot of people.

[Phil Duckett]

So, like, this is like a small town thing. Like how people in America eat, like possums and like raccoons.

[Yay]

Yes, yes.

[Turner Sparks]

It's like when you go to a carnival in Mississippi. Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

And they're like, oh, we let you know.

[Turner Sparks]

And most Americans go, oh, gross. But there are some people who. Yes. Delete raccoon. Like on a stick.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. So then there's certain parts of China. You could get a dog.

[Turner Sparks]

What about Mississippi of China?

[Phil Duckett]

What about cat?

[Yay]

Nah.

[Turner Sparks]

Wow.

[Phil Duckett]

Y'all would eat. Y'all would eat a dog before a cat.

[Turner Sparks]

That's crazy.

[Yay]

What?

[Turner Sparks]

Why don't you want to eat a cat? Have you.

[Yay]

Well, I'm sure people. When they were starving.

[Phil Duckett]

Of course. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

I've never been. I've never seen it on a menu.

[Phil Duckett]

But you have seen dog on a minute.

[Turner Sparks]

I don't actually. I don't think I've ever seen.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Yay]

It's like we've heard people.

[Phil Duckett]

It's like chitlins.

[Yay]

It's like chitlins, except to.

[Phil Duckett]

Y'all eat Chinese people eat chitlins.

[Yay]

Yeah, we. We call just. Just intestines and organs. We don't cut chitlins because.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, they're called chitlins.

[Yay]

We prepared them very nicely and then, you know, clean them. Clean it now. Nah. All right. So.

[Turner Sparks]

So what is this?

[Yay]

Well, anyway, monkey. So. Because you guys are not being serious, so. Okay.

[Turner Sparks]

Well, you can't tell by our clothing.

[Phil Duckett]

We are being very serious. Yeah.

[Yay]

So normally I think people would think Chinese. We dumplings during Chinese New Year. Right. Well, it's actually certain parts of China, we do eat dumplings. Everybody in China loves dumplings. But it's not a festival food where I'm from. Okay, okay. So where I'm from, eastern part of China, it's a city called Suzhou. It's very close to Shanghai. Suzhou.

[Phil Duckett]

Suzhou.

[Yay]

Yeah. So we eat a lot of rice things. And then this is made with rice. And the yellow is from the millet. You know, the grain millet that, you know the.

[Phil Duckett]

What they make baijiu out of?

[Yay]

No, that's sorghum.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay.

[Yay]

Yeah, some. Some baijiu is made with millet. You're right. So that's why the yellow color. Right. Filled with black sesame seeds, like a paste. So it's a sweet. Normally it looks like a white because it's made with regular glutinous rice. White glutinous rice. So now they're trying to make it really fancy. What Turner's doing completely wrong.

[Turner Sparks]

What?

[Phil Duckett]

Cut it in half?

[Yay]

Well, you're not supposed to cut it in half.

[Phil Duckett]

Whole ball.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, Let me describe it to the listening audience.

[Yay]

You're losing the feeling. Sorry.

[Phil Duckett]

So wait.

[Turner Sparks]

So wait, let me describe to the listener.

[Yay]

Normally this is very hot, right? When you're serving it. Very hot. So what are you gonna do is you're gonna take a small bite. Very small. Okay.

[Turner Sparks]

Small oil's bite's too big.

[Yay]

And you're gonna blow cold air into it into. Onto the filling. And when it's cooled and take another.

[Turner Sparks]

Bite, I'm gonna explain to the listening audience. These are these yellow gelatinous balls in a bowl of clear soup.

[Phil Duckett]

What's the water in the bottom?

[Turner Sparks]

They're filled.

[Yay]

It's just the water. So they don't stick together.

[Turner Sparks]

They're filled with a black sesame seed.

[Yay]

Black sesame seeds.

[Turner Sparks]

By the look on his face.

[Yay]

You don't like it?

[Turner Sparks]

He seems to be. Enjoy my teeth.

[Yay]

Oh, it's okay.

[Turner Sparks]

Kind of tastes like a Reese's peanut butter cup. Yeah, Joe's eating them too. Yeah, I like it. Is it peanut butter, sesame with a.

[Yay]

Little bit peanuts, Maybe a little bit peanuts.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, I'm allergic to peanuts.

[Turner Sparks]

You're allergic to peanuts. There's no peanuts in here, right?

[Yay]

Oh, I have to look at the patties.

[Turner Sparks]

I'm told Bill just goes. But you might be right.

[Yay]

I do taste a little bit peanuts, but mostly sesame seeds. Black sesame seeds and sugar.

[Turner Sparks]

No. What. What's your review, Phil? Phil's making a lot of faces.

[Yay]

Well, he's not used to this texture.

[Phil Duckett]

It's a texture, It's a consistency. It's.

[Yay]

No, you just have to keep chewing.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, it's sticking to my lips, and I feel like I just ate a spider web. The consistency in the. Like, the taste in the middle gives me Reese's. Once you get. I think it's the fact that the outer yellow stuff tastes like absolutely nothing, and it's sticky, and I think that's what's throwing my brain. Once I get to the middle part, I'm like, I want the filling. Pause.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Because you're crazy. Crazy statement.

[Yay]

But, yeah, you have to chew it, like, with the filling.

[Turner Sparks]

Well, now you got to drink the baijo to wash it down. So we've done this before on this show, but it's time to do it again.

[Phil Duckett]

I would love some baiji.

[Turner Sparks]

There you go. I want me to pour it.

[Phil Duckett]

You have to. It's bad luck for you to pour your own baijo.

[Turner Sparks]

Is that true? Chinese history by Phil Duckett.

[Yay]

Baiji is from the oldest distillery in China.

[Turner Sparks]

There you go. That's what you're drinking for Chinese New Year for the year of the snake. Go ahead, you two drink it.

[Yay]

I don't normally drink. And then I'll drink this for you. So I'm older than you. How do you know you're dragon?

[Phil Duckett]

The way she said it with disgust was great. You're dragging.

[Yay]

No, you're a baby. So. So, okay, when you cheers, right. When you do chairs, you have to. If you know I'm older than you and your glass has to be lower than me. Yeah, like that.

[Turner Sparks]

The older person's lower.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, the older person is lower.

[Yay]

No, the younger person.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, the younger person's lower.

[Yay]

The younger person's lower.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, all the way down to the ground.

[Yay]

10Th floor. Do you want to go to no.

[Turner Sparks]

9?

[Phil Duckett]

Showing you respect.

[Yay]

Yeah. And then. Yeah, like that.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay. Bye, Joe.

[Turner Sparks]

And then you finish the whole thing, you say gambet, which means finish your glass.

[Phil Duckett]

Gambe.

[Turner Sparks]

So what.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

What is the year of the snake? What are the. What do we need to know? What are, like, the what. What's lucky this year? Or what does it mean? Year of the snake. What's good for a snake?

[Yay]

I actually really don't know.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, okay.

[Yay]

I think Phil would help me. I just, like, everything's like, there's no bad animal. Each year, they have some saying, like, I don't really. People only care about their animal size.

[Phil Duckett]

Really?

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

They're very selfish in China, would you say?

[Yay]

Yeah, well, they know about.

[Turner Sparks]

She said. Yeah.

[Yay]

No, I mean, like, not selfish, but that's how it is. Like, you know about.

[Phil Duckett]

How did you Know that I'm a baby just because I'm. You're the dragon. How many years are in between the animals?

[Yay]

12.

[Phil Duckett]

Really?

[Yay]

There are 12 animals.

[Phil Duckett]

So. So if I'm. If I'm 1988.

[Yay]

And then you say so in China, when you ask people how old are they, sometimes it's hard to remember the number. The number changes every year, right?

[Phil Duckett]

I'm sorry, what does it. What do you mean? What number?

[Yay]

The age. Their age number changes every year. Like Phil. Oh, how old are you? Oh, I'm 36. Exactly.

[Phil Duckett]

But I wouldn't be 36 next year.

[Yay]

Yeah, but the thing is you told me 36. And tomorrow, maybe two years later, he told me. I don't remember. 30 something. But if you tell me dragon, I won't forget dragon.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, you. So you know what? So If I'm born 88, that's dragon. The year 1989 is a different animal. And it takes 12 years to get back to dragon.

[Yay]

Right.

[Turner Sparks]

So it'd be year. So you're either born in 88, the year 2000, or the year 1976.

[Yay]

So your year will either be 12. You're 12 years old, 24 years old, 36 years old, 48 years old.

[Phil Duckett]

So I'm 36. My next birthday is 48.

[Yay]

No birthday. Dragon year. That's not their birthday.

[Phil Duckett]

But, but you don't. You only celebrate your animal year. So you don't celebrate your birthday next year. Like, just because you turn 37. It's like, that's no big deal.

[Yay]

Your animals, well, you do celebrate them, but you have to be very careful on your year.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. On your own year, it's like an extra level of celebration.

[Yay]

Yeah. Like either you.

[Turner Sparks]

Certain things you have to do.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Your year.

[Turner Sparks]

On your year, you're.

[Yay]

You either very lucky or either super unlucky. So on your year, you have to wear red things like red bracelets, red underwear, wear socks that's closer to you, to your skin.

[Turner Sparks]

The whole year.

[Yay]

The whole year.

[Turner Sparks]

Make sure you. It skews lucky.

[Phil Duckett]

The same pair of draws.

[Turner Sparks]

Well, you can buy multiple.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, I was like, it ain't never that serious. I'll be unlucky. And we got to wear the same draws for the year. But that.

[Turner Sparks]

Because if you don't do that, then it skews unlucky.

[Phil Duckett]

So what are the type of things that you like, are unlucky in your culture? Like splitting the ball.

[Yay]

Four.

[Turner Sparks]

You told us about four. The number four.

[Yay]

The number four is not lucky.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. What were you saying about that? You had to Only.

[Yay]

So I served you two pieces of this glutinous rice. Right. Normally when you serve food in China or anything that you don't serve the number four, because four sounds like death.

[Phil Duckett]

And what's the word for death? Is that close to four?

[Turner Sparks]

Because the number four in Chinese is. Oh.

[Phil Duckett]

That's why I'm like, wait. I was like that.

[Turner Sparks]

So it would be like if in English. Translate to English, if you say the number four or the word for death is four.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

And you go, whoa, Those are too similar. So there's no fourth floor. A lot of the elevators don't have a fourth floor. Like, buildings won't have a fourth floor.

[Phil Duckett]

There's a 1, 2, 3, 5.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Yay]

And you want to have a wedding. Sound the force.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

So I think in the top venue in the continent, if I'm like, we're going to do it on January 4th, they're like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

When I got my cell phone out there, it was the first cell phone number.

[Yay]

22 car license plate. Yeah. You can't have four.

[Turner Sparks]

I was 22 when I moved to China, and I got out there, first time ever having a cell phone. You have to. You go buy your cell phone, and then you go buy your number. You buy your phone number. And I was like, that was a foreign concept to me. Right. Usually you just get a number. I'm like, well, what are, like, the cheap numbers? And they're like, oh, if you want, like, all fours, that's like, nobody will ever buy $2. But if you want all eight, that's like $500. I'm like, yeah, give me as many fours as you got.

[Phil Duckett]

Eight is lucky.

[Yay]

But I would have. Say nowadays people are less superstitious about these taboos. If it's very inconvenient, they're just like, fine. I've been waiting for to buy a car and get a license plate for a while. So if there's a number four out, I'll take it.

[Phil Duckett]

You know, like, it's like, what if he had quadruplets? Like, you can't control that.

[Yay]

Well, you can't control that.

[Turner Sparks]

That's.

[Phil Duckett]

That's natural adoption. One's gonna die. They kill one.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. Which is also the number four.

[Phil Duckett]

She was a girl.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Do y'all. Are y'all still killing the daughters?

[Turner Sparks]

No, no, she's alive.

[Phil Duckett]

She could have been in a good woman. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe she's from the east side by Sichuan. Maybe they was like, nah, she good.

[Turner Sparks]

Should we get to our questions?

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, yeah. I would like to.

[Turner Sparks]

So we got people writing in. Before we get to those, I want to give a giant shout out to all our new Patreon subscribers. You guys are awesome. We've only been doing this. I think we launched our Patreon like less than a month ago. It's been like three or four weeks ago. And in the first three or four weeks we got so many of you to sign up. Just since last week's episode. I'm going to read off the new people we got. I think Funkilo and Will pre Chuck were around last week. Since then we've added Ross George. What's up? Aaron Welch. Ross George I believe is in New Zealand, by the way.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, Kiwi. What up?

[Turner Sparks]

Ross George out New Zealand. Aaron Welch. Sacramento, California. Sam Michael. Singapore. Dominic Mills. Brooklyn, New York. Brett P. I don't know where Brett is from. And then we got a guy who goes by the name Silent S. What's up Silent Silence. And Jake Sch, our newest Patreon subscribers. So Everybody go to patreon.com blackand white advice. We got the five dollar option, the $10 option, the $20 option. If you're 20 bucks you get to rename the name of our our Patreon subscriber group right now which is called the Gentry Fires. Thanks to Will Preach.

[Phil Duckett]

Nice.

[Turner Sparks]

All right, we will be right back with your black and white device. Questions and answers. It is Ryan Seacrest here. There was a recent social media trend which consisted of flying on a plane with no music, no movies, no entertainment, but a better going to chumbacasino.com it's like having a mini social casino in your pocket. Chumba casino has over 100 online casino style games all absolutely free. It's the most fun you can have online and on a plane. So grab your free welcome bonus [e-mail] sponsored by Chumba Casino. No purchase necessary vgw group void where prohibited by law 18 + terms and conditions apply. Hey, you want to get bonus content early episodes and have your questions answered on the show?

[Phil Duckett]

Well then subscribe to our [e-mail] blackandwhiteadvice and subscribe right now.

[Turner Sparks]

Do it and we'll give you a shout out on a future episode And.

[Phil Duckett]

I might call you the N word.

[Turner Sparks]

All right, we're back. Phil dug it. Just took his third baijo shot. He's doing kung fu. He's ready to rock. Yeah, still around. Well, we're going to be answering your questions right now. First question. This is from Sam in Bangkok. Sam's a Patreon subscriber. What's up, Sam?

[Phil Duckett]

You live in Bangkok. All right.

[Yay]

Sorry.

[Turner Sparks]

Why did I say bank? What did I say last time? Singapore.

[Phil Duckett]

You said Singapore.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, you know why? He came to my show in Singapore one time, but he was traveling for business. He lives in Bangkok. I forgot about that. Oh, apologies, Sam.

[Phil Duckett]

Sorry, Sam.

[Turner Sparks]

Sam and Sam and Bangkok Patreon subscriber. Sam. If you're a Patreon subscriber, you go to the front of the line to get your questions answered.

[Phil Duckett]

I want to come to Thailand, man. I hear it's sick.

[Turner Sparks]

It's pretty sweet.

[Phil Duckett]

I hear you got to watch out for a lot of things, but it's a good time.

[Turner Sparks]

Sam used to live in China. That's where I know him from. He said, I think every black person that has gone to China has a great story about the first time they figured out how Chinese say the words. Or that one. Oh, yeah. He knows what I'm talking about.

[Phil Duckett]

It's. It's around, ain't it?

[Turner Sparks]

It is. It is, yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

It's crazy the way she said, oh, did you have.

[Turner Sparks]

You know that already, or you just. You just figured.

[Yay]

So when you say. When you say this, this is closer to you or just something, anything, an object, or this.

[Turner Sparks]

The word. That.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay.

[Yay]

This thing. That thing, right? This. That chugga.

[Phil Duckett]

Well, y'all can kiss my ass. Y'all can kiss my.

[Turner Sparks]

It's not. It has no connection.

[Phil Duckett]

Well, bring this jigger over here.

[Turner Sparks]

I speak Chinese now.

[Phil Duckett]

I'm kind of nice with it. Yeah, kind of nice with it. I catch on pretty quick when that. When it's like that.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, that's literally it. But they're two Chinese characters, right? So it.

[Phil Duckett]

It is one lighter than the other. Coincidence is Jugga lighter than that? Lighter like what's painted white? The other one's all black.

[Turner Sparks]

I don't think they paint just the letters. The characters, the characters.

[Phil Duckett]

Well, hand me that, joker. After that, we need another bijou, because, I mean, we out here slanging in bomb.

[Turner Sparks]

You might have to take one more jigga.

[Phil Duckett]

Come here. Nick. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

You didn't think you'd be fluent in Chinese.

[Phil Duckett]

I did not know that I'd pick it up so quickly.

[Turner Sparks]

So next time you're on stage and there's a Chinese person in the audience, bust that out.

[Phil Duckett]

Come here.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Everybody's like, how do you know my name? He just walks on the stage.

[Turner Sparks]

His name is that.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

So the question from Sam is. He says to continue on. He says I knew a black guy in China who was in an elevator, and it sounded to him like the. That was the only word they were saying. He told me this. He goes, I would like to tell or warn black people I meet about it. However I understand it is sensitive. I'd like to get Phil's take on. If I meet a black person and we're discussing China, is this something for me to mention or should I just keep my mouth shut?

[Phil Duckett]

Keep your mouth shut unless it comes up. Why would you all sudden be like, you know, that's over there. I'd be like, I'm sorry. My name's Phil. What the fuck are you doing? I would be, like, weirded out because I'm like, it would have to come up in conversation.

[Turner Sparks]

Or you have to. Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Like, if I heard you saying it, I'd be like, are they saying that? Because, I mean, that's what most black people do. If we heard it.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

They're like, what's the word? Yeah, they're like, oh, this or that. But if you just Coming up, like, don't worry. I'm gonna say, but it's not what you think. I would be like, yeah, what the hell is he talking about? And why are you in my. Like, you just wanted to say that. That's like, it would. Yeah, you do just want to say it to me, like. Because there was no need to let me know.

[Turner Sparks]

You're not even in Chinatown. You're not in China.

[Phil Duckett]

We're in Hell's Kitchen.

[Turner Sparks]

You see a black guy, you run across the street. Wait, slow down. I got something to tell you.

[Phil Duckett]

They're not saying it means this or that.

[Turner Sparks]

If by chance you ever go to China. Right.

[Phil Duckett]

That would throw me off. So I would just leave that time and place. You would know when it was time to bring that up.

[Turner Sparks]

Yes.

[Phil Duckett]

My facial expression would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy.

[Turner Sparks]

Yes.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

But no, there was. I remember this story. There was a. @ USC, I think, during, like, 20. 20, 21, a professor who was fired for teaching a Chinese culture history class or something and, like, said it, but said it in Chinese, speaking Chinese, said it. And then the school. The students complained because they didn't understand what he was saying. And then the school fired, like, they.

[Phil Duckett]

Wanted to fire him anyway. Any definitely right person would have said, like, I'm speaking influential.

[Turner Sparks]

This is a foreign language.

[Phil Duckett]

You picked out the one word that sounds. I mean, there's a word in every language that sounds like something in American that's like, crazy. But, yes, you're speaking a Different language. I. What do we. Unless the sentence in Chinese was up. So he, like, uses in a slur. And the was crazy, too.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Like, in Chinese, he was like, that little pussy over there. I'm gonna take it. You know, I mean, it's like, whoa. But he was like, you know, I don't know. I just feel like he might have double whammied us if we didn't know. They just heard. But he was really talking that in Chinese.

[Turner Sparks]

He could have been. They knew the ulterior. The underlying.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, you know, I mean, that's the only thing I can think of. Because you'd have to be an idiot to fire a Chinese professor for speaking Chinese.

[Turner Sparks]

Yes.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, he was a white guy.

[Phil Duckett]

Fire him.

[Turner Sparks]

But he was speaking Chinese.

[Phil Duckett]

He knew what he was doing is the camera.

[Turner Sparks]

Okay, so the lesson is, if you're a white guy, and even if you are speaking Chinese, don't say this or that. You can say this. Can you say jigga?

[Phil Duckett]

I don't like how you said. I don't even like how you're saying I'm speaking.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

He was like, do you want the hard R or the soft R? Phil, jigger or jigga? I'm like, how about we just stay on language? Say that over there.

[Turner Sparks]

Next question. Kevin in Rhode Island. I'm just gonna assume he's white. He says, I've always wondered, are microaggressions something that people get upset about, or was that mostly in the media? Do you guys know what microaggressions are? I went and looked up a few examples.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, just give me a couple. I think. I mean, I think I know microaggressions is.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, so it's like if. Usually it's a white person saying something to a non white person that they think might be, like, interesting or a compliment, but actually it's. It's not like calling you a racist slur. It's some. You know, it's like a white person.

[Phil Duckett]

Looks at another one. We're like, are they all that fast?

[Turner Sparks]

Yes. Okay. Another one is so. So a few. I looked up. You're so exotic saying that to, like, any woman who's not white.

[Phil Duckett]

Microaggression.

[Turner Sparks]

These are what they claim to be microaggressions. But the question is, is this real or who cares? Or is it. Who cares? Your English is so good to a foreign person.

[Phil Duckett]

So you mean, like talking about black people like, oh, my God, they're so articulate. Yes, that is a micro. I hate that. I. That is. Yeah, that'll Piss me off.

[Turner Sparks]

Other ones are. You're so brave to a handicapped person. I didn't know anyone said that to handicapped people, but I do.

[Phil Duckett]

Some people do.

[Turner Sparks]

You do say that sometimes.

[Phil Duckett]

Because when I see them like rolling down the steps in the chair, I'm like, do you understand the level of athleticism?

[Yay]

Rolling on the stairs.

[Phil Duckett]

I've seen a homeless dude kick up on his back wheels and go.

[Turner Sparks]

There's no ramp.

[Phil Duckett]

No ramp. And I'm like, buddy, I'm. I'm so proud of you.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

That is the brave.

[Turner Sparks]

So apparently that's a microaggression.

[Phil Duckett]

Well, good for you because I've never even seen able bodied people do that. So yes, I'm very proud.

[Turner Sparks]

Microaggress.

[Phil Duckett]

Paraplegic. Tony Hawk.

[Turner Sparks]

Following someone around a shop based off their race or crossing the street to avoid Hurry up and buy. Asian people follow black people.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh. At the beauty supply stores all the time. They support. They always follow you around like you need help. You know, Hurry up and buy. Hurry up and buy. I'm like, me, Stop with me.

[Yay]

Well, they were worried about stealing.

[Phil Duckett]

Stealing. They follow you. They fight. Or they'll sit and they'll be like looking at something. I'm like, there's no way you're shopping. Right. You work here.

[Turner Sparks]

That's why this episode's great. That's why this show's great. Because there is, it does feel like there's something between black and Asians. Yes, there's some type of.

[Phil Duckett]

Asians are either like real hip, like real hip, like in the hip hop, or they're very white lady acting. Yeah. You know, it's either like one of the. There's like really no in between. They're either really cool or they're like, like, they stereotype like white people. Like, he's stealing. Yeah. It's like, okay, so. I don't know. Your wife's awesome, you know?

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, it's awesome. She's.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, you're awesome. But no, I've never really felt in between.

[Turner Sparks]

I think you're talking about like shop owners.

[Yay]

Yeah, shop owners.

[Turner Sparks]

Certain neighborhoods.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, like, like any, any Asian working in a black neighborhood. I feel like they're, they're, they're cool with it because they've been there. They're a staple of the neighborhood. But they also can be kind of racist too, because. Which, I mean, I'm sure they've seen some things.

[Turner Sparks]

They're fighting for their story.

[Phil Duckett]

Right, Right. Gentrification.

[Yay]

What do you think that they just follow everyone?

[Phil Duckett]

No, they definitely don't. I'VE seen other people walk in and they're like, hi, have a good day.

[Yay]

Well, because I'm in Chinatown, There are a guy following me around. Yeah. In the. In the grocery store. They just like, yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Don't brag about your stalkers in New York City. Okay. I feel like it's totally different.

[Yay]

Stalkers. He works there.

[Phil Duckett]

Some guy has a crusher. He's like. He follows me everywhere. I just can't get rid of him. Like, it's different. But you think that they follow you just because.

[Yay]

It depends on the store. I think, like, if they got, you know, a lot of things still stolen.

[Turner Sparks]

I think there's certain neighborhood, especially like. Like an elderly. An older Chinese shop owner or a. Or Korean a lot of times or whoever. Asian of any kind. Who's been ripped off a lot. Right. Profiling.

[Yay]

Korean.

[Turner Sparks]

Well, you're the one saying Asians.

[Phil Duckett]

Don't put this on me. It's not about me.

[Turner Sparks]

All right? I'm staying out of it. That's where we're at.

[Phil Duckett]

It's not about me.

[Turner Sparks]

Anyway, the point is. So microaggressions, real or not real? Annoying.

[Phil Duckett]

They are very real. Very real. Very, very real a thing. There's just different levels, I think to. Some are a little touchy, but there are real microaggressions.

[Turner Sparks]

Have you ever noticed someone crossing the street because of you?

[Phil Duckett]

All the time.

[Turner Sparks]

You do notice it.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. White girls, especially late at night, which, I mean, I'm not mad about.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

If I don't. Hell, I cross the street from certain black folks.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

You know, me. But I see. I've seen it quite. I've seen, like. Or the. Or the bag. The bag clutch.

[Turner Sparks]

Okay.

[Phil Duckett]

Like, you know, I mean, it's almost sometimes involuntary. I don't even know if they know they're doing it. Oh, hi.

[Turner Sparks]

I've had people. I feel bad when I'm. You know when you're walking home from the subway and there's, like, a woman by themselves 10ft in front of you, and they just happen to live in the same building as you.

[Phil Duckett]

They turn and you turn. I know that. Think about, as a brother, how I feel. I'm like.

[Turner Sparks]

And then they turn again, and you turn again.

[Phil Duckett]

Sometimes I slow down.

[Turner Sparks]

I've done that, too.

[Phil Duckett]

Just so she doesn't think I'm following.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. I'll slow down. I'll stop. I'll make a different turn.

[Phil Duckett]

That's how you know we're good men.

[Turner Sparks]

We are good.

[Phil Duckett]

They're good, man. Because even though we know we're Never going to harm. It's just like, I can't imagine what she's feeling. Like, the uneasiness. And I don't want her to think that I'm like, a creep. So I'll just slow down. Let her literally go into the building.

[Turner Sparks]

So many times I hear the door closed, and I'll go, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

You know, I've got my own key, so I'm definitely not following you.

[Yay]

It actually happened to me one time. A lady, like, looked around, like, looked back at me a few times because we were going the same way.

[Phil Duckett]

She's been like, yeah, she thought you.

[Turner Sparks]

Were gonna rob her.

[Yay]

Me. Five, three.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, I will say one time. So I did that. I. I slowed. I took it. I took a different turn. I'm like, I'm just gonna walk around the block.

[Phil Duckett]

I'm not.

[Turner Sparks]

That the other way.

[Phil Duckett]

That's crazy.

[Turner Sparks]

No, but it backfired because I came around the block the other way, and I was like, oh, I'll stop in. We have a little, like, corner store. I was like, I'll just stop in the corner store and get something on my way home. She was in the corner store, and.

[Phil Duckett]

It like, you on purpose.

[Turner Sparks]

She's like, I'm dead.

[Phil Duckett]

I'm dead.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah, because she thought she lost me.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. You're like.

[Yay]

Because Turner can be like, I can be creepy.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Yay]

He could be, like, a totally normal, like, a Mormon kind of really nice guy also, but also, like, a very bashy. Crazy.

[Phil Duckett]

He has that other side to him. Or he could just snap out. There's a dark side to Turner.

[Turner Sparks]

Hello.

[Phil Duckett]

Hi, Dexter.

[Turner Sparks]

Phil, if you want to stop scaring women, just keep wearing that shirt.

[Yay]

Oh, you're right. You should do a social experiment with that shirt.

[Phil Duckett]

I should.

[Yay]

Oh, there's a joke.

[Turner Sparks]

You look like you can protect them with your kung fu.

[Yay]

Well, this is off, off record. Someone. I showed you a comedian that. He said, if you carrying a Starbucks latte, no one's gonna bother you.

[Phil Duckett]

Nobody bother me.

[Yay]

Police officers won't bother you because you have a latte.

[Phil Duckett]

I feel like back in the day, maybe that would have worked, but I think Starbucks has gotten too trashy.

[Yay]

Okay.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, yeah. There was a time that was like a power sandwich.

[Turner Sparks]

There's, like, homeless people live in Starbucks.

[Yay]

What's a Starbucks now? Blue bot.

[Phil Duckett]

To go, like, Starbucks reserve.

[Yay]

A reserve.

[Turner Sparks]

Reserve, Reserve. I love those Starbucks reserve. They're like, no, but we. We brew the beans right here. I'm like, you're still Starbucks.

[Phil Duckett]

Still Starbucks. I mean, so funny. Same caramel macchiato Got it. But you get a pastrami sandwich.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. You got cushions on the couch. Big deal.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. Totally different.

[Turner Sparks]

All right, next question.

[Yay]

Tuna goes to Starbucks, reserving China.

[Phil Duckett]

There was a Starbucks reserve.

[Turner Sparks]

There's one in Shanghai. I mean, it's pretty.

[Yay]

There's one in Su. Multiple cities.

[Turner Sparks]

Excuse me. Oh, it's everywhere. Excuse me.

[Phil Duckett]

Because Turner, having your wife here keeps you humble.

[Turner Sparks]

Excuse me.

[Yay]

Turner likes.

[Turner Sparks]

All right, now, here we go.

[Yay]

Like black coffee, but in a lot of Asian countries, they only have espresso, so you can't.

[Phil Duckett]

You can't get black drip.

[Yay]

You can't get it. You can get drip.

[Phil Duckett]

You.

[Yay]

You can get shot. Or you can get latte. You can get a cappuccino. All those drinks.

[Turner Sparks]

Or Americano.

[Yay]

Americano with water.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Yay]

But he likes drip. So he goes to Starbucks. They'll pour over. They have pour over.

[Turner Sparks]

They don't have it in Australia. I was in Australia. They don't have Dr. And they think we're like Neanderthals for drinking drip coffee.

[Phil Duckett]

But why isn't that, like, how the normal type of coffee.

[Turner Sparks]

Yes, that's what I think. They would rather have a glass of water. And then they pour an espresso shot, and they go, it's an Americano. I'm like, I don't know any Americans who drink like this.

[Phil Duckett]

If I'm gonna do drip.

[Turner Sparks]

That was an Australian accent, by the way, not a Chinese one.

[Phil Duckett]

I'll do a red line.

[Turner Sparks]

What's a red line?

[Phil Duckett]

Espresso poured into my drip coffee. So drip coffee with an espresso shot.

[Turner Sparks]

Wow. It's even better.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, it's good. And it's that. Yeah, yeah, you Also your pants, but it'll kick you in the gear. Oh, man, your stomach locks. You're like, holy. This is jet fuel.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, there's nothing like more just funky than a Starbucks bathroom.

[Phil Duckett]

I mean. Oh, any coffee shop is literally built.

[Yay]

Any coffee shop.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

Next question. This is from Mia from North Carolina. She says, why y'all never stay on the beach?

[Phil Duckett]

Must be talking about dancing.

[Turner Sparks]

She must be talking about white people.

[Phil Duckett]

I don't if from North Carolina. That's where I'm from. I don't. You don't need to translate that question. Why y'all can't stay on beat is all I need to know.

[Turner Sparks]

I. Why can't I assume she means white people?

[Phil Duckett]

White people. When they dance to a beat, here's.

[Turner Sparks]

All I will say. And this is a giant deflection. We. That's true. White people can't dance well, right.

[Phil Duckett]

Y'all dance to have fun. Y'all don't dance to stay on beat. Y'all dance with whatever your soul is going through.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. And it's usually. It's letting out a lot.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. And that's why they always grab their hair first. And white girls always grab their hair and they do the imaginary. Like Pamela Anderson, when they wipe their hands through their hair and they always look at you and they're like, my black friend taught me how to dance. Never fails. White girls. White girls always do that in a club. They're like, my black friend Keisha taught me how to dance. And then they start doing that full body roll.

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, God.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh, it is hard to watch. It's like. It's like convulsion.

[Turner Sparks]

Like, convuls.

[Phil Duckett]

I know Keisha did not teach you any of that, but.

[Turner Sparks]

Okay, but they're saying that with confidence.

[Phil Duckett]

With confidence and having a blast. All right. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

They're having a good time. We have a good time when we dance. They do? I. Yeah, they do. Hey, they do. Well, no, but I wanted to say this, and I'm sure. Yeah. Is going to disagree with me here. When I moved to China, I was like, oh, wow. You thought white people didn't know how to dance?

[Yay]

We don't dance.

[Turner Sparks]

Chinese people. There's no beat involved anywhere.

[Phil Duckett]

Y'all don't dance.

[Yay]

It's so conserved. Like, reserved. We're so reserved.

[Phil Duckett]

Footloose.

[Turner Sparks]

It's there.

[Phil Duckett]

Are y'all allowed to dance?

[Yay]

We are allowed to dance.

[Turner Sparks]

A dance floor in a nightclub, but people just be standing on it. Like a junior high dance.

[Yay]

They were like. Like they were. Get a table, and then they'll have a bunch of alcohol, and they just sit there and then just do this.

[Turner Sparks]

Or if they.

[Phil Duckett]

So what would happen if somebody went out on the date?

[Turner Sparks]

There's a lot of this. There's a lot of sitting and then waving your finger in the air.

[Phil Duckett]

But there ain't no girl Chinese girl out there who just goes to the dance floor and just starts twerking on something.

[Yay]

Well, there are some, but most people are not. That's why. That's what we get.

[Turner Sparks]

Doesn't exist in the continent.

[Phil Duckett]

Way off the beat.

[Yay]

Well, you can tell me. I think that's true because we know a few friends that clubs will hire. Not hire. Would love expats like Turner or, like, you know, white girls and friends and whatever. They'll give them free alcohol so they could be there and then just, like, you know, hang out and, you know, like, be the Vibe and the people can like make it American. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

And get on the dance floor because.

[Yay]

Otherwise maybe they're encouraging other people to dance too. Now they have like a whole like dance teams in clubs and dance on the table for the customers.

[Phil Duckett]

They bring like a choreographed Coyote Ugly type.

[Yay]

Yes.

[Turner Sparks]

Well, you know, they do this at Jewish bar mitzvahs. There's a career. I forget there's a comedian who did this for a long time. I forget who it is. She was, I heard her talking about it. But there's a career you can have where. Because 13 year old bar mitzvah kids, Jewish kids are also scared to get on a dance floor. So they'll hire the parents who pay for the bar mitzvah will also hire like a 22 year old to come and get on the dance floor first and then pull like the 13 year old boys and girls out to dance. And that's sort of what they did with foreign people in China, but in Chinese nightclubs. So my point is, if you're a white guy and you're sick of people of black people in America telling you don't know how to dance, just go to China. You'll be like the black guy. Yeah, yeah. The role.

[Phil Duckett]

China's where all the non rhythmic people need to run to.

[Turner Sparks]

Exactly.

[Phil Duckett]

Gotcha.

[Turner Sparks]

You'll feel great.

[Yay]

They'll think you're Michael Jackson or something.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh my God.

[Turner Sparks]

Next last question. This is our last question. This is from Jeff in Lexington. Lexington, Kentucky. Excuse me, Jeff in Washington, Kentucky. Why don't black guys smile in pictures?

[Yay]

What?

[Turner Sparks]

That's an interesting one.

[Yay]

You don't.

[Turner Sparks]

Smartness. I thought that was be the answer.

[Phil Duckett]

You know, so for. It depends on where you're at. You know, there's a time for black boy joy, but black boy joy. But most of the time when you're in a picture, you're. It's a statement piece. Especially with you with the homies. Last thing you want to do is be in a, in a photo where everybody's mean mugging and you're like, hi. The one guy smiling and that is the sheep. All right, we'll kill him first.

[Turner Sparks]

Yes.

[Phil Duckett]

To infiltrate the group.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

You don't ever want to be that guy. So, you know, I mean, I don't think. But even most of the time when we take pictures, somebody be like, yo, what's up? We smiling or not?

[Turner Sparks]

Oh, really?

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. What's up? We smile. I'm like, no, I ain't smiling that oh word.

[Turner Sparks]

And then no one smiles.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, but they're like all right, we'll do one for like your mom or something.

[Turner Sparks]

Everyone throw that away.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah. Hey man, put the blunt down, man.

[Turner Sparks]

Only goes to mom.

[Phil Duckett]

Put the blunt down, man. Just smile real quick. Quick. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

Christians, I don't think first of all. So Chinese people don't typically historically smile in pictures. White people don't historically. It's a new thing. My grandpa never smiled in a picture.

[Phil Duckett]

We're talking about the real white men back in the day. The Yellowstones, the cowboys.

[Turner Sparks]

Whiter.

[Phil Duckett]

No. Well, first off, to take a photo back in that time took like 45 minutes.

[Turner Sparks]

It did take a long time.

[Phil Duckett]

They couldn't smile.

[Turner Sparks]

You needed like a.

[Phil Duckett]

They had to just stand there and the camera. Yeah. And they're like, God, I hope this happens soon.

[Turner Sparks]

Like powder everywhere.

[Phil Duckett]

Right. But I think as soon as it became an option, like they were like, oh no, life is really good. We have nothing to worry about. We're white. We can smile.

[Turner Sparks]

In all, I think the baby boomers in America were the first generation to smile.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

The. The greatest. My grandpa never.

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

There's not a single pic and he's usually looking like confused.

[Phil Duckett]

Well, they had that thousand yard stare from the Great War, so most of them probably couldn't smile cuz they were having PTSD. Yeah.

[Turner Sparks]

World War II, World War I. Yeah.

[Yay]

Well, in, you know, China, like I would assume my grandparents generation, they learned how to smile at pictures because they didn't have pictures growing up. Right. It was a poor. And then. And then I think they only took pictures when like there's like a factory like group photo and you have to be serious. And I think later on they go travel and then they would take pictures with family, with the family they're traveling with and then they'll smile. But like my parents generation, they all smile in the pictures.

[Phil Duckett]

They do.

[Yay]

Yeah.

[Phil Duckett]

Okay.

[Yay]

Well, millennials like my generation.

[Phil Duckett]

Oh yeah.

[Yay]

In the old we. We do like to not be serious. I'm our parents generation because they're all serious in the picture. Like maybe a little bit like that. But we want to post, but we don't know how to do it. So we just do this peace sign. Oh yeah. Like a victory.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. When I moved there, there's a lot of peace signs when I first got there. And then a lot of people doing this. That's they kids like a seven with their hands kids and put it across their face.

[Phil Duckett]

Does that mean good luck?

[Turner Sparks]

It I. People told me it meant 007.

[Yay]

Oh, right. You're right.

[Turner Sparks]

And they went, oh, it's James Bond.

[Phil Duckett]

That's why I gotta go to the guys. It was like James Bond, when the last time you come out with a movie.

[Turner Sparks]

The reason why I know that is because when I would get in a picture when I first moved out there, and you're just confused by everything. And people would look at me, the person take the picture and they go, turner, James Bond. James Bond. And I'm like, I don't know what that means. And they go, no, you do this, you do the James Bond. They put their hand, the seven, to their chin. I'm like, oh, okay. That's what we're doing. That's it. All right. I think we answered all the questions. Happy Chinese New Year, everybody. You're the snake, Joe.

[Yay]

Happy Chinese New Year.

[Turner Sparks]

What do you got for us? White lies and dark truths. And then after that, Patreon subscribers, you're all awesome. Stick around for the bonus show. So in the beginning of the episode, you guys are talking about rats. And yes, rats are considered one of the animals most likely to survive a nuclear fallout.

[Yay]

Whoa.

[Turner Sparks]

Due to their remarkable resilience. Yep. Is that because they can scurry underground real fast?

[Phil Duckett]

They can survive anything, but their skin is not. They can literally eat through metal if they're.

[Yay]

What about cockroaches, too?

[Phil Duckett]

Yeah, cockroaches will.

[Turner Sparks]

Yeah. Wow. Didn't know that. Also, you guys are talking about. Look at the brain on this guy.

[Yay]

The brain of the show.

[Turner Sparks]

Mr. Phil asked if it master's degree philosophy was rude if he poured his own shot. And in Chinese culture, it's generally considered more polite and respectful to poor for others as it signifies a gesture of hospitality. Nailed it.

[Phil Duckett]

Two for two. I am China.

[Turner Sparks]

And then the last thing guys are talking about. The symbolism behind the snake and the. The year of the snake.

[Phil Duckett]

And it's.

[Turner Sparks]

The snake's ability to shed its skin symbolizes letting go of the past and embracing the new. The snake is also a symbol of wisdom, cunning, and adaptability. Happy year the Snake, everybody.

[Phil Duckett]

Happy snake season.

[Turner Sparks]

Patreon subscribers. Stick around. Everybody else, stay black.

[Yay]

Little drag question but you're scared to ask.

[Phil Duckett]

Just drop the boys a message cuz.

[Yay]

They'Re up to the task they're all in the dice they ain't always nice but you can't think twice when giving.

[Phil Duckett]

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[Turner Sparks]

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[Phil Duckett]

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[Turner Sparks]

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[Phil Duckett]

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[Turner Sparks]

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