Love Island S7 (Midseason, USA)

Summary

Black People Love Paramore — Love Island S7 (Midseason, USA) Recap

Podcast: Black People Love Paramore
Host(s): Sequoia Holmes, Jewel Wicker, Ryann Graham
Date: June 26, 2025
Episode Focus: A lively, unfiltered, and humorous breakdown of the U.S. Season 7 of Love Island at the midseason mark. The hosts discuss eliminations, cast personalities, reality TV production, and the unique dynamics at play—in particular, perspectives often overlooked in mainstream pop culture critique.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the midway point of Love Island USA Season 7, sharing instant, honest reactions to episode 19, discussing the latest eliminations, and dissecting the nuances of reality TV through a particularly Black millennial lens. Alongside sharp commentary about systemic issues and fandom dynamics, the hosts serve up nostalgia and relatable humor as they give their verdicts on each remaining islander, the show’s structure, and the Love Island phenomenon overall.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Podcast Rebranding and Meta Commentary (00:55–03:49)

• Sequoia shares the podcast may soon change its name to clarify it's not strictly about the band Paramore, but about diverse Black interests in pop culture. Merch with the existing branding is now "vintage."
• The hosts riff on social media confusion when handles change owners (paralleling followers of the POTUS Instagram account).

"But until then, this is a pop culture show about the common and uncommon interest of black people and not a podcast about the band Paramore. And it was becoming increasingly unclear that that was the case." – Sequoia [03:13]

Jumping Into Love Island S7, USA (04:27–06:47)

• The hosts start right after watching episode 19, expressing frustration with the format that allowed fan-favorites (Nick and Alandria) to be eliminated.
• Ryann is grateful for being introduced to the show and notes the season’s addictive, campy quality.

Individual Islander Hot Takes (06:47–23:08)

The hosts deliver rapid-fire, hilarious “one-liner” reviews of each cast member. They highlight looks, vibe, and TV impact with quick, memorable jokes and sharp banter. Notable takes include:

• Austin: “Dumb as rocks. Love him, though.” [06:58]
• Shelly: “Beautiful, stunning, gorgeous. Talented. Well, I don't know if she's talented, but beautiful. Gorgeous doll.” [07:38]
• Nick: “My fave…he's very funny.” [08:46]
• Alandria: “Body. God damn body. Every time…she is also sweet, therapist-y…grounding.” [10:16]
• Taylor: “Interesting hats. Goofy.” [10:45–11:12]
• Amaya: “My favorite girl…too pure for this house. I want better for her.” [13:13]
• Coco: “Beautiful. Stunning. Good face. Oh, hell of a face.” [19:23]

Memorable banter:

• Comparing Amaya's Instagram photos to lighting and colorism [13:35]
• Extended shade and mockery for "Pepe," poking fun at the edit and production [14:06]
• Describing the boys as "just tall" rather than true bombshells, contrasting women’s standards [19:57]

"The girls have to have so much more than the boys do. The boys don't even have to have body…" – Sequoia [20:18]

Casa Amor & Bombshells Analysis (16:47–23:08)

• Newcomers are critiqued, especially stylistic issues (e.g., Clark’s wig [18:20]) and general forgettability.
• Discussion about how gendered standards of attractiveness impact casting and audience perceptions.

Key Production Choices and Twists (23:18–34:39)

• The hosts theorize about “fake eliminations” (where producers seem to protect certain cast members for drama) and speculate on behind-the-scenes manipulation.
• Extended discussion of the controversial dismissal of Jeremiah and suggestions he may return for a twist—a sign of reality TV’s concern for narrative over real competition.

"I definitely thought that he was going to come back for Casa Casa Amore…" – Sequoia [23:27]

• Critique on how male contestants build alliances (or “mean girls”-style cliques) to control the narrative and votes.

Couple Dynamics & Gendered Judgment (34:39–42:52)

• Criticism focuses on men who don't reciprocate affection (Taylor, Austin) or seem to play the game over genuine connection (Ace, Nick).
• The hosts express support for Shelly and Amaya as most deserving winners and debate which men, if any, “deserve” to win with them by association.
• The narrative about men avoiding “closing off” to avoid looking corny or hypocritical—a theme connected to toxic masculinity in reality dating.

"I think the reason Ace and Nick would not close off with Shelly and Sierra, even though it's apparent that those are their strongest bonds…is because they spent the entire season demonizing Jeremiah for being closed off with Huda. So they have made closing off so taboo that they can't do it." – Sequoia [36:48]

Reality TV, Editing, and Social Media Ethics (43:05–46:41)

• Reality vs. Perception: The hosts remind the audience that editing manipulates audience sympathy, and that hate online impacts real people.
• Mental Health: Discussion of the severe real-world consequences for cast members, referencing past tragedies across the Love Island franchise.

"People will get you pregnant and you will get pregnant as a means to trap or trap another person. So I feel like sex is probably something similar." – Sequoia [42:40]

• Social Media Responsibility: Sequoia acknowledges the power of TikTok and podcasting in shaping public perception, especially when reality TV contestants become targets.

"Maybe I need to think a little bit harder before hitting send on that video. Because at the end of the day, it's still kind of like trying to get viewership off of somebody else's hardship." – Sequoia [45:13]

Iconic and Viral Moments (55:10–56:58)

• The hosts recount favorite moments, including:
  • The infamous "I'm a mommy, a mamacita" line.
  • Amaya’s cheerful song.
  • Over-the-top emotional responses to recouplings and pillow-cuddling.
• These moments are celebrated for their meme potential and sheer campiness.

Reality TV Nostalgia, Drama, and Violence (60:27–63:02)

• Longing for the raw drama and occasional physical altercations seen in shows like The Challenge, The Real World, Bad Girls Club, or Flavor of Love.
• Complaint that current Love Island contestants are “too nice” on departures; the hosts joke about wanting more “I could you up right now” energy.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

On unfair elimination formats:

"Why have you all created an atmosphere? Even this can happen. Why have y'all set up a show or a circumstance where this is possible where like faves can go home…?"
— Sequoia, [05:12]

On male casting double standards:

"The girls have to have so much more than the boys do. The boys don't even have to have body… Versus the girls have to be literally model models."
— Sequoia, [20:18]

On “Cult Leader” Energy and Toxic Reality Tropes:

"I also feel like Ace could lead a cult…Charming, can like move masses…be careful. Or like, be aware that everyone on the Internet is a fully three dimensional person and they're adept to it."
— Ryann, [39:28]

On the ethics of recapping and social media:

"Maybe I need to think a little bit harder before hitting send on that video. Because at the end of the day, it's still kind of like trying to get viewership off of somebody else's hardship."
— Sequoia, [45:13]

On the show’s appeal:

"God, what a silly, silly show. I think, yeah. They are acting as if these people are dying."
— Ryann, [56:22]

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• 00:55 – Show rebranding and "meta" social commentary
• 04:27 – Immediate reactions post-episode 19 (Nick and Alandria eliminated)
• 06:47–23:08 – Rapid-fire hot takes on all the islanders
• 23:18–34:39 – Casa Amor: Theorycrafting producer manipulations, elimination drama
• 34:39–42:52 – Couples, "closing off," and reality dating game mechanics
• 43:05–46:41 – Reality TV’s editing, fan behavior, and social media impact (serious segment)
• 55:10–56:58 – Funniest viral moments
• 60:27–63:02 – Yearning for old-school reality TV drama, violence, and authenticity
• 63:13–65:39 – Looking ahead, listener engagement, and next steps

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Final Thoughts and Episode Tone

This episode blends biting critique, irreverent humor, and thoughtful cultural analysis. The hosts love the campy drama of Love Island while highlighting systemic issues in reality TV production and fandom—especially from a Black perspective. They cherish the absurdity, abhor production’s manipulation and audience meanness, and root for their favorites with passion. Sequoia, Ryann, and friends dish scorching, fair rounds of tough love to the show’s contestants, fellow fans, and each other.

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Attributions & Episode Credits

• Host: Sequoia Holmes (@SequoiaBHolmes)
• Co-hosts: Jewel Wicker, Ryann Graham (@GoodGuyRyRide)
• Theme Song: prod.joelteon
• Artwork: Pedro Fequiere

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Transcript

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I never said that was perfect. I never said I didn't have any flaws.

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Yeah.

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But at least I'm pretty. And at least I'm a little funny. And at least I'm my own best friend.

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Yeah. A poet, Honestly, Truly.

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That's a word. A bar, a sermon.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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They should have put that on the main show.

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They. They should have put that on the main show. I did need parts of that. If you can't tell by the intro, we're talking about Love Island Season 7, USA.

[B]

Amen.

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But before that, welcome to Black People Love Paramore. Also, heads up, y'. All. I'm probably going to be rebranding and changing the name of this podcast. I'm gonna, like, start saying that now so, you know, you can, like, prepare someone a new podcast. Enters your villa.

[B]

Villa into the villa.

[A]

I knew you're not gonna be like, what the is this? I never subscribed. Yes, you did. Look for me. Check for me.

[B]

Is it gonna be like when people when they were following POTUS and then they thought they were accidentally following Donald.

[A]

Well, now it's exactly like POTUS handle. Not realizing that the POTUS handle is just the POTUS handle. So whatever POTUS it is is. So now you think you didn't follow. They didn't had you follow Donald Trump, but really you're just following.

[B]

Right? Liter literacy. What? Literacy.

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Media not. You're trying to make fun of me. Media literacy and not knowing media literacy.

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Read me, drag me.

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That's Media Literacy 101. I remember when it was happening too, and it being such a whole thing.

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And I was like, you guys, it makes perfect.

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Are you. Is everybody okay?

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I say, and I'm like, it wasn't a switch. It just how this works.

[A]

Meta is not having you follow for Donald Trump. Right?

[B]

Like, I mean, I guess I get the benefit, but, like, that's not how that works, guys.

[A]

Right. But I.

[B]

This is off topic, but whatever. But to their two. No, not really to their defense. Like, take two seconds to think this, in theory, is the first president shift where, like, Instagram is ubiquitous.

[A]

That's fair. Where, like, people get a lot of their information.

[B]

Correct.

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If not most of their information from following a handle.

[B]

Right? Because I think. And it probably started with the first Trump presidency, where people probably kind of like, oh, I should be paying attention. And then getting news from Instagram where, like, Obama and before you really weren't. Instagram was silly fun times. You know what I mean? You weren't, like, on there for news. So I get it. But, like, still think like.

[A]

Like just take a second, think about it. Take a second ding.

[B]

And so think about it. When you get the new name in.

[A]

The podcast, when you get the new name of the podcast which has kind of been chosen, but not really chosen. And so I don't want to say it quite yet, but I will let you know when it's kind of chosen solidly. When you see a new podc to be like, maybe this is a black people up Paramore. It is, right? Okay, it is. But until then, this is a pop culture show about the common and uncommon interest of black people and not a podcast about the band Paramore. And it was becoming increasingly unclear that that was the case. So.

[B]

Yeah, fair. Sure.

[A]

I think Paramore has go from the name. We love you though. Always love Haley.

[B]

We. Yeah, yeah.

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We stand.

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We say, oh sure, of course. Yeah.

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You know, at the end of the day anyways. Yeah. Read us writer review, all that good stuff and we're getting.

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Yeah, great.

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Yeah. I mean buy merch while you can while it's cold.

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Wow.

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While it's called black people up Paramore. Vintage merch. Buy some. Buy vintage merch.

[B]

That's kind of fun.

[A]

Early merch.

[B]

Wow. Honestly, that's. Yeah. It's like when you get the. That you're like, oh yeah, you. You are og. Like, like when it's like you're on tour, you're like where the day ones. Who knows? Like it's like that. And then you throw back some. It's that.

[A]

Speaking of. Kendrick Lamar said that that's why he had the audacity while we went to the Kendra Mar tour. He said, let me wear my day ones at and then play off. Good K. Mad City, baby. You had two albums before that.

[B]

That's where I checked.

[A]

Was that about.

[B]

It was to me. He was talking to me.

[A]

He was talking to you, right? And I keep calling day tens day ones.

[B]

Thank you. And the thing is he. Whatever song he sang, I didn't recognize it. So. So he should have went to the.

[A]

Real day one and also didn't know that one either. Right. Cuz we were all sitting there, we were like, we about to get something from section 8. We about to get something overly dedicated.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Good kid. Okay. I love Good kid as much as next. As much. Hey.

[B]

I was like, do all the stars. I'm. I'm kidding. I didn't mean that. I didn't actually mean that. Screaming Anyways, I know we're way off.

[A]

That's not what we here for, child. We. We only here to talk about Love Island Season 7. We are in the middle of the season of the USA season.

[B]

Oh, dead middle, right?

[A]

This is like just about dead middle. Yeah. Cuz it's about 37 episodes. We just watched episode 19. We literally are turning on this camera seconds after finishing episode 19 where two big players went home to Casa Amore. Question mark.

[B]

Question mark.

[A]

Question mark.

[B]

So yeah, by the time this comes out, we might haven't. No, we won't have an answer.

[A]

No. Because this coming out Thursday morning. So we will not have an answer. By the time this comes out, we will not yet have an answer.

[B]

Right. And I'm honestly shocked. Like, I was pretty upset about the spoiler alert for if you have not watched it, if you're behind. When Nick and Alandria went home, I was like, legitimately? You weren't.

[A]

No, I was. I was annoyed, really fucking annoyed at the producers. I'm like, why have you all created an atmosphere? Even this can happen. Why have y' all set up a show or a circumstance where this is possible where like faves can go home where you're. We're phase. We're voted faves where we know like that these are the fan favorites are getting off my screen.

[B]

Especially for like new people that we do not, do not care. And I'm assuming we'll go home soon.

[A]

100. We couldn't give a damn about them. We could not give a damn about them.

[B]

Oh, I will say you are. Thank you for introducing me to Love Island.

[A]

You're welcome.

[B]

I was never a Love island girly. I typically don't watch like romance type shows because they were never like flavor of love.

[A]

That was my type of camp. Yes, you need. You needed some camp.

[B]

Touch of camp.

[A]

And then has a touch of camp.

[B]

Yes. And I. When you got me to watch it, I was like, oh, it is campy. I told you this is a great season to jump in. So I will say thank you for welcoming me. And now I kind of want to go back and watch because this.

[A]

This one last season was fantastic. So really? So Tommy, my best friend Tommy, I also got her into it. So she started watching the season. You started watching season. Jewel started watching season. Damn. Why was Jewel's name.

[B]

That's fine.

[A]

Anyways, Tommy's now going back to watch season six because she's obsessed and she's like live messaging me about season six. She loves it. She's like, this is fantastic.

[B]

Really? I need to go back.

[A]

You should. After this ends.

[B]

It just feels daunting because it's.

[A]

But you don't have to, like, rush through it.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Like once this. Because you have to keep up with this in real time. Once this finishes, you can go back and watch season six on your own time at your own pace.

[B]

That is fair and fun, and I'm.

[A]

Happy to talk about it.

[B]

Oh, I will be like, hey, let me. Let me jump in. Yeah. So I am. I am a new.

[A]

A new bombshell is into the villa very much. We're a lot of new bombshells this season. Entering the villa. Okay, what do we think about. I'm gonna name each character and you tell me what you think about them.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Maybe like a sentence.

[B]

Sure. Austin Dumbest rocks. Love him, though.

[A]

Phineas and Ferb. Matt McGuire from Lizzie McGuire. The White Brother from this is Us.

[B]

I didn't watch. This is.

[A]

Okay. The one that wasn't Randall.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Yeah.

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You know, and I'll add another one. The old oldest brother from Malcolm in the Middle.

[A]

Yes. Him as well.

[B]

Ed. Ed and Eddie.

[A]

Ed as well as Ed. And in addition to Eddie. Absolutely. That. Yeah. Okay. Boom. That. That's. Yes.

[B]

That's awesome. Of course.

[A]

Shelly.

[B]

Beautiful, stunning, gorgeous, talented. Well, I don't know if she's talented, but beautiful. Gorgeous doll.

[A]

Like, she's not. I'm like, are you real? This is. She's beautiful.

[B]

Like, she looks like Halle Bailey. And I don't. That who also has a very doll face. Yeah. I'm like, oh, gorgeous look like baby dolls. I want her. I want better for her. I will say that I want better.

[A]

For her as well, because we'll get to the couple. Yes. Hold on.

[B]

I'm going to be nice. We've had a conversation off. I'm finding it. Does it take that long? It does. Passionate.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

She is passionate.

[A]

She is passionate.

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I could do without, but passionate. She's very passionate.

[A]

How to me is familiar. And that's not healthy. That's not. That's not a reflection of me. Not familiar in the way where I'm like, oh, I've at you like that. Familiar.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Just. I'm like. I know a lot of girls like.

[B]

That before we got. Because we'll. We will circle back to the hood of it all.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Yes. Well, right now. Quick little whatever. We'll get back.

[B]

Nick, my fave. I want to say problematic fave.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I do think he's my favorite boy. Yeah, he's very funny.

[A]

My favorite boy as well. Funny. Cute.

[B]

Oh, you think cute and handsome. Yeah, I think. I don't. I don't Think he's ugly. He would not send out to me.

[A]

I. Ebb and flow. So when they first released the cast pictures, I was like, nick is the one. He's so hand. I thought he was objectively.

[B]

Well, well, well. Make sure.

[A]

Yes, absolutely.

[B]

Him too.

[A]

But Nick, I was like, oh, he's objectively handsome. Like, this is his cast photo. Doesn't that look.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You know what? It is for me, though, I think we disagree on this. He looks. Not literally. This is Ian Solmerhound. He's in that realm.

[A]

He looks just like this particular photo.

[B]

Right. And you know how I feel about that.

[A]

Oh. And y' all know, I. If it's one thing to know about me, Ian somerhalder, sexual reawakening 800 times.

[B]

Reawakening. You were 12.

[A]

I was old. I was old. When Ian Somerhalder appeared on my screen, I was like, oh, I'm straight. I was like, oh, I'm straight.

[B]

That's insane as hell. Sure.

[A]

Yes. Okay. That is.

[B]

And you know, I don't find him attractive, so. Sure.

[A]

That's fair. Yeah. I thought he was really cute at first. When the cast photos dropped, I was like, wow. And then he got on the show, and I was like, nah. And now I'm kind of back in on it. Like, he came back around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It was very much. Yes. It was like, yes. It was like, nah.

[B]

And now I'm on board. Now I'm on board. Yes.

[A]

Alandria Body.

[B]

God damn body.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Every time. Tits and ass. I'm like, jesus Christ. She's more than that. But that is what stands out to me.

[A]

100.

[B]

But she is also sweet therapisty.

[A]

Like, it seems like everybody in the villa, like, comes to her when they have a problem, you know, they're like, oh, Alandra will, like, talk to me about it and care about it. Know to do.

[B]

And I touch it. The guys also feel like she's. They say she's grounding. I think that is a compliment she gives.

[A]

I like her. Taylor.

[B]

I want to say gowns, but not even hats. Hats.

[A]

Hats.

[B]

I don't want to say beautiful. I don't. And I like cowboys.

[A]

Is he interesting hats. I mean, interesting hats.

[B]

Interesting hats.

[A]

Interesting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Funny. Silly. Silly. Goofy.

[B]

Goofy, Goofy. I know. I'm not gonna give him silly, silly. It's too.

[A]

It's too good.

[B]

Yeah. I think goofy works.

[A]

Goofy. Okay.

[B]

Goofy.

[A]

Jerry. Yes. I hope you all get the references when we're doing this. I'm sure. I'm sure some of you do.

[B]

Again, if we go back to our Landia. I want better.

[A]

I want better.

[B]

I want better.

[A]

He's a Gemini.

[B]

Don't give us.

[A]

He's giving us bad.

[B]

Oh. Has anyone else been a Gemini so far? I haven't paid attention.

[A]

I do think that somebody else is a Gemini too.

[B]

Not that we've seen, though, yet.

[A]

I'm not positive. I didn't look. I just hate that he's Jim.

[B]

And I jumped out of here, screamed.

[A]

We don't even need to go over you, Lisa.

[B]

Who's that exactly?

[A]

Sierra.

[B]

I'm not gonna lie. I don't have many thoughts, really. I don't actually.

[A]

Sierra.

[B]

Yeah, nothing bad.

[A]

Wow. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. But I know you look.

[A]

I think she's such a cool girl. I like how sexually liberated she is. And she doesn't talk about it in a. In a. She doesn't talk about it in a way as though it's so feminist and so, like, sexual liberation, you know? She just is.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's like, yeah, I did the most men in the house, and if you have a problem with that, get laid.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

You know, I like it.

[B]

I forget. I will add. I jumped into this season, like, the. A little late after they did body counts. Okay.

[A]

So she. I think she had the highest body count, if I'm not mistaken. And, like, she genuinely felt no way about it, you know? Like. And a lot of women would, like, feel like you would be able to read a tiny bit of shame, if any. Nothing. She was like, yeah, okay.

[B]

That with.

[A]

She's like, if somebody has a problem with it, maybe they should get laid.

[B]

I think maybe I should go back and watch that with her. Cuz, like, I think I jumped in, and there was. I jumped in with the Jeremiah and Hood of it all. And so she was just like a.

[A]

Background character for me. Yeah, she was kind of getting lost.

[B]

Yeah. Okay.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, then that makes me like her.

[A]

Yeah, I really like her in general. Yeah, I like her. I mean, we're gonna ignore that she's a Libra. Okay. Is that bad for me?

[B]

Maya, I love this little girl.

[A]

I love her. She.

[B]

Is she a Gemini?

[A]

She's 25. She's Scorpio tracks.

[B]

Oh, she's 25.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You could have told me she was 22, and I'd be like, 100%.

[A]

No, if you told me she was 21, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, right. 25.

[B]

Amaya is my favorite girl, and I think that she is too pure for this house. I think that I want better for her. I Think, above all, I want better. I want her to leave the house only because I don't think she's going to find what she's looking for in here. And she deserves a silly, goofy man who's going to like, support and lift her up. And I don't think anybody in this house is going to do that.

[A]

I agree. Oh, God. A quarter million on. On Instagram, period. That's what the I'll be doing.

[B]

What is that photo? She was very dark there.

[A]

Oh. Oh, she black. I'm telling.

[B]

I mean, she's. She's Puerto Rican.

[A]

Is. She's Dominican, which to me says black. Yeah, that's not her, babe.

[B]

Who is that?

[A]

That looked like her to you.

[B]

That's why I was. That's why it confused me.

[A]

That's. That's her.

[B]

Okay, well, she should again. Of course.

[A]

She's in a Danessa Myricks ad. Okay, so she been that girl.

[B]

Oh, so they're okay. Yeah. Love her, though. Love, love, love, love, Love Amaya. Very fun.

[A]

Love Amaya. Okay, Iris, Sure. Who gives a damn, right? Again, Pepe.

[B]

I think his name is silly. And every time they say I'm so.

[A]

Sorry, I wholeheartedly agree. And I don't know if that's problematic.

[B]

Okay, well.

[A]

But every time, every time they say it with the accent, I.

[B]

Think they're being funny.

[A]

I think they're trying to be funny because the announcer.

[B]

And now we have. I'm like, that's not a real name. Every time, yeah, I keep being like, what is it short for? Insane.

[A]

What is his. What is his name? Unless it is Pepe.

[B]

I don't know if it is good for him, I suppose, but I do. Every time they say it, it sounds silly. So there's that.

[A]

And then we have the baddest bombshell to the villa has ever motherfucking seen, seasons one through seven.

[B]

In fact, calling her Bombshell feels unfair. It's a nuclear bomb.

[A]

Is this. They came and dropped a fucking nuclear bomb on the villa.

[B]

You know what, Trump? You're looking at the wrong spot. You need to be looking at this.

[A]

Bitch you worried about on countries. You need to be worried about Fiji in love with Andrina.

[B]

That's where the weapons of mass destruction are. God damn it. Like, I'm taking your man. Which, and it's crazy, cuz she looked at the camera and said, I said, I'm taking your.

[A]

Meanwhile, Derek is sitting right here as she says it. I said, cover your eyes. Don't ever. If you even so much as glances the television, don't you don't know. Don't look at this.

[B]

How dare you? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Please don't take my man. Don't take him. Cuz I believe she could do it. I believe she could do it. Child.

[B]

Yeah. She's. It's insane.

[A]

That was insane.

[B]

Is she English as a second language? It gives that. She's from Spain.

[A]

No, she's from. She was born in Spain. She is Dominican, I believe she said. And she grew up in Jersey.

[B]

Got it. Cuz she just. Her accent is just quite strong. I was like, oh, you seem like you and tj. Okay, we disagree here. I actively think TJ is attractive.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I. Yeah. I don't know. Something about him. He gives Midwest soccer boy, baseball boy, actually. Of course he is. And I think that's what it does for me.

[A]

You know what? He does kind of look like this boy I had a crush on in kindergarten. My first. His name was Daniel.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And he does kind of look like Daniel. Like, square, just square head, square body. Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I get it. Just like a quote unquote, all American stock model boy. Yes. Sock model boy.

[B]

That's what it. And I think when I really, actually sit with myself and think about my type, I don't think they have. It's not a white thing.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I think I do love a very boring, very pretty boy. Not very pretty, but, you know, I.

[A]

Mean, boring, very pretty boy.

[B]

He looks boring.

[A]

He does look boring. And he really does. And he has been boring.

[B]

Yeah, I've been bored. And I.

[A]

Yes, that is accurate.

[B]

And I like boring.

[A]

Okay, that's fair. Now we have. We're getting into the Casa Amore people who just got the boys and the girls. So the boys that came into the villa that are not in casa. The girls, whatever. Y' all know what the I'm talking about. We come into the new people.

[B]

Vanna in this photo, she looks like a had Bahabi or maybe Alabama.

[A]

It is giving Alabama. It is giving Alabama Barker. Yeah, the. Yeah, that's what. I'm gonna leave that there. She's a cancer. Jaden Duggar.

[B]

Sure. Oh, I'm not literally angry with her, but she sent my girl home. Our boy home.

[A]

Do you remember? You. You're not gonna remember. This is gonna be such a. Such a niche reference. I don't think anybody's gonna know what the. I'm talking about. Maybe the TV show. Oh, Grady, did you ever hear of the. Did you ever hear.

[B]

I don't know. I. I know it's a Nick Noggin. Yes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So I do know this show. I don't think I watched it, but I'm aware of it now. Girl, for you who don't know what she is pulling up. I thought o' Grady was going to be a TV show. She's pulling up a cartoon that looks like a less drawn version of Rick and Morty. It looks like a prototype now.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And so this is about to be.

[A]

She looks like a character on o'. Grady.

[B]

You're being disrespectful. This girl being dead ass.

[A]

She looked like a character on o'. Grady.

[B]

A photo of this girl.

[A]

Oh, Grady as a whole.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

She don't look like any specific character. She just looked like a character from o'. Grady.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But. Okay, okay.

[A]

Maybe a character from Rick and Morty.

[B]

It is Rick and Morty. She kind of looks like the sister in Rick and Morty. I could give you that.

[A]

Summer. She don't look like Summer.

[B]

No, but I. That it's. I see what you're.

[A]

She's in the Rick and Morty universe and the old Grady universe.

[B]

Disrespectful.

[A]

Okay, Clark, I.

[B]

We discussed. Needs a new wig.

[A]

Clark. Yes. I feel like.

[B]

Needs.

[A]

But Clark is a beautiful girl.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

By the face. Entire. And she looks good. Obviously. I feel like a jet black bust down is kind of weighing her down. It's really long. No layers in it or anything. No levity. It's just heavy. And then the dark lip is always heavy as well. I would like to see her with a big curly moment. Like the hair that Coco has I think will look really good on Clark.

[B]

You hit the nail on the head. It's all too. It's all too heavy and too dark.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, it's something to lighten it up. It feels. It's harsh.

[A]

Yes. It's almost aging. How old is she?

[B]

Yeah, it doesn't have her.

[A]

They don't have her age.

[B]

Oh, come on.

[A]

That's weird. Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, I agree. It does make her look older than I'm sure she is, but she seems fine. Other than that.

[A]

100. Yeah.

[B]

So bad styling. I would say there's that.

[A]

Yes. Grayson, Sure.

[B]

I don't know who this girl is.

[A]

Not a single thought about her.

[B]

She's there.

[A]

She's blonde.

[B]

Who is she with?

[A]

Is she there still? Who does she.

[B]

I could not tell you who she took.

[A]

I have no idea. It might have been Pep. It must have been Pepe because Pepe was with Hannah.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And that's Hannah.

[B]

This is.

[A]

That's Hannah.

[B]

You know, and that's right.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay. And then Coco.

[B]

Beautiful.

[A]

Stunning.

[B]

Yeah. Beautiful girl.

[A]

Stunning.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Good face. Oh, hell of a face. 24.

[B]

Chris, which one is he?

[A]

Six, eight.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. I'm saying because Chris and J.D. who I did. I think Chris is the big, big one. He's the one with.

[A]

Shelly.

[B]

Shelly. Wow. Sure. So here's my thing. I'm gonna say this right now. All the boys from the Bombshells are not bombshells. So let's start there. I think we talked about it.

[A]

Don't you have to be bomb to be a Bombshell?

[B]

They're just tall.

[A]

Just tall.

[B]

They're just.

[A]

Just all. In fact, I'd go as far as to say the boys on the season are not we.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Hottest group.

[B]

And not. They are. They're all. They're all cute in, like a very normal, everyday way, you know? And it feels unfair in the sense that, like, all of the girls from, like, especially the original.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It feels like the girls have to have so much more.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Than the boys do. And that feels unfair.

[A]

The girls have to have so much more than the boys do. The boys don't even have to have body.

[B]

No.

[A]

It's not a requirement. The boys are not that cute by the face. They don't have to be tall. Like, they don't have to be any goddamn thing. Versus the girls have to be.

[B]

Stupid. Like, yeah. Like, they're all. They all have to be like, literally model models. Like, just like IG baddie.

[A]

Like, you have to be in with 200, 000 followers on Instagram type. And I guess I don't.

[B]

Maybe it's just as harder to get boys to do it. Or maybe like, all the really hot boys are taken doing something else already. No, I mean, like, in relationships, like, I think if you are a very hot boy, who is. But no, because if you're around, like, I don't know.

[A]

And they don't really be giving a damn about that. I told you. Gary's about if you're in a relationship or not. Gary's management hit him up like, hey, do you want to do the new season of Bachelor? Said. Excuse me.

[B]

No. I'm literally walking right. No.

[A]

What do you mean? Do you want to be put up to be Bachelor? No. Ellen.

[B]

So here's the thing. You can name any of these men.

[A]

And I wouldn't know who the we're talking about.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Ellen or Elon.

[B]

I don't know how you say he's bold. Nick.

[A]

That's Nick. And bold font, right? Yes. Pretty, pretty, pretty face, Softer featured, more feminine looking. Nick and bold font.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

JD Is the other tall black man.

[B]

And, you know, he just pissed me off because he picked Huda. And that is insane to see her to behave the way she behaved. Come in. See two bad black women, and you go, nope, I want the foreign one. The foreign one who's gonna act a fool. Yeah, yeah. Whack with his teeth. I'm sorry.

[A]

Is this man Brian?

[B]

Even in this photo, we don't like him.

[A]

And I don't know why. I hate Brian. I honestly have no idea. What about. I don't want to say hate, because I don't.

[B]

I don't know this man. Sure.

[A]

Something about him does not sit right with me.

[B]

I agree. Like, every time he speaks, he just feels whack. He just feels something about him. I'm like, you know, it's gonna reveal itself.

[A]

It's going to reveal itself. My discernment doesn't miss.

[B]

Something's wrong.

[A]

So something's wrong.

[B]

Yeah. He just irks me.

[A]

Your clothes, whack.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your shoes, whack. I don't like. I don't like.

[B]

I hate the way you walk, the way you talk. I hate the way you dress me.

[A]

At him, for sure. And then we have Zach with the K. So that's the Asian man who I life. Well, he's 30. He's way older than everything.

[B]

I think that also explains his energy. I think his energy feels way different than everyone else.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And maybe it is, like, coming off as a. I don't know if it's aggressive, but, like, he's, like, leading because he's literally 10 years older than ever.

[A]

That's super fair. He's really handsome to me. He's, like, very, very handsome. And I don't say that about most of the bombshells, I would say. And I don't like him.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Like, I like the way that he looks, and I don't like him. And then we have the other Zach.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

With the C. And I don't know nothing about that man. Don't give a damn.

[B]

Hate to say on some.

[A]

Right, Right. Hold it on. So that's who's in the house right now.

[B]

Right. Or rip to kind of. And Charlie and Jeremiah kind of. Well, how do you want to do this? How do you want to run with it?

[A]

Okay. We. Let's quickly touch on the fact that Jeremiah not being in the house is unacceptable because everybody who's watching this is already Know, we don't have to recap it because they know.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

But it's unacceptable that they actually let Jeremiah go home. I definitely thought that he was going to come back for Casa Casa Amore.

[B]

Oh, does that happen?

[A]

No. But you see how Alandria and Nick went home at the end of episode 19. Went home, quote, unquote. And we watched them not go home.

[B]

So it appears possible that that's what.

[A]

I thought they were gonna do with Jeremiah because I knew that they weren't going to let main characters get off this show.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And clearly they're not letting Alandria and Nick get off. So why did they let Jeremiah go home?

[B]

Is it possible that he. Like, I know we explicitly saw Nick and Alandra have a moment where it's like, they're not going home.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Is it possible that we just didn't see that moment for Jeremiah?

[A]

It is possible that they kept him up somewhere where they're about to take Nick and Alandri. Yeah.

[B]

I'm saying, like, what's his name? The dude that they tried to get Alandra to leave Taylor for. He's home doing interviews. I've not seen Jeremiah do a single interview.

[A]

Same. Right.

[B]

And so what I'm saying.

[A]

Get in front of a camera pretty quick.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was like, it is possible that Jeremiah is also being held and that, like, they noticed that mistake because I. I don't know who they. They probably thought Austin was going home. I don't know who they thought was going home.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[B]

I think what man they thought would have been going home.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Either way, I'm assuming they didn't expect Jeremiah.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so it is possible that that was the beginning of them being like, we need to find a way to put them back in. Because I'm saying, great drama, Jeremiah coming back because he just. He did not deserve that. I don't necessarily like him.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But I don't think he was a villain, and I think the show was painting him out 100.

[A]

So the main thing that bothers me about Jeremiah is his obsession with foreign comma Latina. So anytime somebody asked that, he repeated this multiple times on the show. What's your type? Foreign Latina. And when he says, it pisses me off because, like, you don't really mean foreign. No, you don't, because Shelly is Caribbean.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

So you don't mean foreign. That's not what you mean.

[B]

Yeah, you mean white passing. You mean.

[A]

Yeah, you mean.

[B]

That's what you mean correct.

[A]

Non black, non white. Anything else, and they could be from Boston, Massachusetts.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And you don't. Being foreign.

[B]

You sure don't. And also because you. You don't even. Sorry, I'm gonna get. And also, it just feels so. When you earnestly say it. Like, I know that people say that as a joke, but you earnestly say it and mean it. It just gives. Like, you're whack.

[A]

You're. You're whack. And. And again, I don't want nobody catching straight here. His mom is white.

[B]

Sure. And that tracks.

[A]

Of course, I'll say that's my biggest issue with Jeremiah. That held that suspended for a second. I began to like him as the show went on. I was like, okay. Because I started off not really liking, but everyone very much thought he was kind of swagless and just, like, kind of lame. And then as he left Huda and I started to see his personality a little bit more. I. I kind of. I was like, oh, okay. I like Jeremiah. Just when I was starting to warm up, they took his ass off the show.

[B]

And, like, also because that little mean girl group of the boys, Ace, Nick, and Taylor.

[A]

Right.

[B]

It was because of. I know that that was them trying to go after him. I think that's what also made it hurt because I'm like, y' all were just being haters.

[A]

Like, you're just being haters.

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like, Taylor.

[B]

I don't understand where Taylor's beef came from, because Taylor was on Huda's side, too. And I was like, what the is this about?

[A]

I, like, agree.

[B]

Why?

[A]

I agree.

[B]

Taylor, he actually might be my least favorite person.

[A]

Taylor, the fact that they had him deliver the speech that they were going to send Jeremiah home very much gave the energy of, like, sending your little brother to go tell your mom you want to order pizza for dinner, because you know that she's more likely to, like, take it well from him because he's innocent and cute and little and harmless. And that's why they sent Taylor up.

[B]

Right? Because, like, I feel like Ace likes to play, like, background. Again, Ace is playing the game, so I get it. But I think he also is aware of the audience watching him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And he's like, I can't be the one to do this because Will look like a bad person. They both.

[A]

That they both. I feel like they both were like, we can't. Whatever.

[B]

And Taylor, you think Nick is that way, too? Yes, I think Nick is playing. I think Ace is playing harder.

[A]

I think Ace is playing more Aggressively. I think they're playing just as hard differently.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, I feel like Nick is a little bit better at being aware of how America sees him as well as how the house sees him and Ace.

[B]

Ah.

[A]

He's like, I'm the prize. Like, I want to win. But you're not. Not playing the game well enough from our perspective. Like, you're not thinking about us well enough.

[B]

And I also wonder if Ace is too cocky. He's like, I'm gonna be able to get away.

[A]

He's a Leo man.

[B]

Oh, well, he is a Leo man.

[A]

Who already came into the house with 1.5 million tick tock followers from teaching how to dance online.

[B]

And so him saying 5:10, when there are literally photos of you on the Internet next to Jennifer Hudson. Hello.

[A]

To be five, y' all having on sneakers.

[B]

And.

[A]

And. And she is an inch on you. She got an inch on you.

[B]

So what are we talking?

[A]

So what are we talking about? And your feet dangling off the couch in the villa.

[B]

I think as soon as he walked in, I distinctly text you and Drew and was like, are the girls tall?

[A]

Because you sure did. And I was like, no, he is 5 10. I was like, no, no. Yeah, he's 5 10. No, you're right. He's not 5.

[B]

Unless these girls are all giants.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He's quite small, right?

[A]

Quite literally.

[B]

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[A]

Okay, who do you want to win? Like, of all the boys, which boy would you be okay with taking the money? Devoid of couples, right? What? Which single boy would you be like, yes, you can take. I'd be okay with you taking the money.

[B]

Honestly, I guess if I have to pick a boy, yes, it. I guess it's Nick because he's my favorite. But I'm not gonna lie. I. I want want one of these girls. Like, when the girls were in the, like, oh, kiss two people that blah, blah, I wanted so badly for wanting to turn to another girl and be like me.

[A]

And that's another reason why people like Sierra a lot because. And Sierra's bisexual. Well, so is Shelly. Shelly's bisexual. Sierra is bisexual. And then in one of the challenges when you got to, like, kiss people or whatever, you have to, like, answer a prompt and then kiss the person who you answer the prompt about. Sierra answered the prompt because she wanted to kiss Shelly. She didn't give a about what the prompt said. It didn't matter. Yeah, she's like, kiss. And she chose Shelly. She didn't give a what the prompt was because she wanted to kiss her.

[B]

What she said, love that. That is what I'm saying. So, like, I guess, yes, if I have to pick a man right now, it is Nick. Okay, maybe Pepe baby. Only because he's not offensive.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But I really the only girl I want to win right now. Well, other than my girl Amaya. I want Amaya to have everything. She deserves the world.

[A]

Yeah. So Amaya will be the girl.

[B]

Yeah. I love that.

[A]

Okay. I would like. I would like. I think I would choose Nick or Ace. Unfortunately, Ace is insane. I know. But I would only choose Ace because now I can't think of them devoid of the couples. And I really want to take Shelly to the end.

[B]

And I agree.

[A]

I would like to take Shelly to the end. That's my. That's my ideal end game. Or Amaya. It would have been Alandria had she not just got eliminated, but she would also be in content. Yeah, I'm, like, devoid of Taylor. I don't want him in the final period because he doesn't like her. He doesn't deserve it. It.

[B]

I genuinely think.

[A]

And I think Shelly likes Ace, and so I'm, like, happy for them, even though Ace gets on my nerves. Taylor does not like Alandria, and Therefore does not deserve to get paid off of Alandria.

[B]

You're right. Because him making it to it with her and them winning would solely be because we love her.

[A]

Exactly. Love her. You cannot ride this lady's coattails. After you would not tell her she was beautiful. After, you should not touch her. She had to beg you to touch her.

[B]

Weird.

[A]

And then this new girl.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I'm sorry, my toxicity could be popping out. I like Coco a lot. This new lady Coco coming to house who is admittedly stunning and you have no issues. Immediately you all googly eyed over her. She's so stunning. She's so beautiful.

[B]

What is it about?

[A]

Because I.

[B]

Because I feel like that they have similar energies like Taylor or Coco and Alandria.

[A]

That's what he said.

[B]

But what I'm saying is. So he said that. Is it even physically they are similar.

[A]

He said it's like talking to Alandra in a different person's body. And then Ace or Nick was like, which body do you like better? And he was like, oh, you being messy.

[B]

I hate him so much. You whack.

[A]

So whack.

[B]

But what I'm saying is, I'm like, I, I understand him saying that. I still don't understand. I mean obviously everyone has their own taste. But I think Alandria and. And Coco have similar bodies. Even like, like that's. I wonder what makes him pick.

[A]

Honestly, Alyndra body is better.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

It's just crazy.

[B]

It is period. Not better.

[A]

Nobody can sit. Nobody can. Nobody. You know what I mean? Like you'd be hard pressed to find somebody whose body looks like that.

[B]

That's what I think. That's like. It would be one thing if Coco was like a Latina girl where I'm like, oh, you don't like black.

[A]

You don't like black women. Black women. Right. And so I want something better for her.

[B]

Oh. And maybe it's just that. Maybe it's straight up. I don't like her. Which is also.

[A]

Which is fair. He's allowed to not like her. But move. Somebody's going to like her.

[B]

Similar. Like with the issue I have now with Austin.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And Amaya. Because I'm like, like I love Amaya and Amaya is just being herself 100. And Austin, she literally asked you and you were like, anything making me.

[A]

Is anything I'm doing make you uncomfortable? Is it uncomfortable for me to call you babe? Like whatever. He was like, no, nothing's making me uncomfortable. And he's just like. You could tell he was like thinking about saying something else. He was like, yeah, no, nothing's making me uncomfortable.

[B]

Dot, dot.

[A]

Right. And you know, Amaya in her own world, not picking up on the cues there.

[B]

I know. You know, it's okay.

[A]

So. Yeah.

[B]

Poor her.

[A]

There was that or not.

[B]

Yeah. I just feel bad for her. But it's the same thing with Taylor where it's like, all right, if you just. If it is literally just a land just not your person.

[A]

Yeah, fine.

[B]

But say don't and then let her find someone else. We love her.

[A]

No, because we love her. Love her. And I will sacrifice you for her in a second.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

So don't piss me off, because if we ever get the opportunity to get you the up out of here.

[B]

Taylor, tonight, I was just desperately wishing, like, of the three of Ace, Taylor and Nick, the three mean girls.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I was like, oh, great. Taylor's time to go 100. Although I would have hated Taylor and Alyndra leaving together. Nah. Actually, no. I guess they would made her happy. But like, yeah, I needed him to go. I don't think.

[A]

I agree. And while I feel away about Nick going home and Alandria naturally.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Nick deserves it based on the way that he sent Jeremiah home. He ate and Jeremiah's going home. Okay, baby. You thought she was safe.

[B]

Karma. Good karma.

[A]

You thought she was running something. Oh, okay.

[B]

And I wonder if, like, that's a part of production. They knew. They were like, we have to scare y'. All.

[A]

They did, right? You can kind of tell that when Nick was going home, Ace couldn't believe his.

[B]

He was legitimately shocked.

[A]

It's you. You could be next, baby.

[B]

And I. That's okay. I want Shell. I agree. Shelly to win.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I need. I hope tall six eight. Chris, I believe is his man's name.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I know nothing about him. He's not impressing me right now, but I hope if nothing else, he comes back and that scares Ace into shape.

[A]

Right? Nothing. I hope it keeps Ace on his toes because.

[B]

Well, he's already keep gonna have to talk to him. But. So, I mean, yeah, but facts.

[A]

I'm gonna have a tippy toes regardless.

[B]

But yes.

[A]

Stand at attention, baby boy, because you. You've been playing with Shelly this whole time. I think I told you this. I have a theory that Ace and Nick couldn't close off. And for those of you who don't know, close off is just like a general term that the islanders use is not an official term by Love island tm.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah. It's not Like a part of a challenge.

[A]

Right. No, no, you don't get. Yes. You just clone. You know, you commit to each other more or less. Right, right, right. I don't think Ace. I think the reason Ace and Nick would not close off with Shelly and Sierra, even though it's apparent that those are their strongest bonds by a long shot. You know, and nobody else is going to come in better than either of those two, is because they spent the entire season demonizing Jeremiah for being closed off with Hutter. So they have made closing off so.

[B]

Taboo that they can't.

[A]

That they can't do it.

[B]

I understand that. And I also understand specifically because they are playing the game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That they have to do that. I don't think they like them like that. I really don't. I think they like lowercase L. Like Shelly and Sierra.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I really do, Ace. Especially after today, I'm like, okay, I do believe you like Shelly more. Nick. I don't know why.

[A]

Really.

[B]

Something about Nick. I think it was like after him and Shell or him and Sierra had sex, which. LOL. Not at lasting 20 seconds or whatever.

[A]

Oh, he did say that. He admit.

[B]

I love that he was honest about that. That made me. I was like, I love Nick as a person.

[A]

I love Nick. He's fun and he's a nurse.

[B]

I thought you going to say a nerd. I'm like, is he?

[A]

No, he's a nurse. He's cute. That's cute to me.

[B]

Oh, okay. Feminine.

[A]

No, it's caring. Like you take care of people.

[B]

I'm kidding. It's not feminine. There are a lot of men, male nurses. You doing the Lord's work? I don't know. Something about his conversation after they had sex was like the way he like, like kind of pushed away from her. It just felt very. I don't know, Something about it was like, oh, this is like a thing that men do. Not all, but like. Like men kind of have like, oh, I got the thing now. I'm like, whatever, that's locked up. And I just didn't. I didn't like the way he made her feel. She felt very devastated by this. And I was like, oh, I don't think you really like her.

[A]

That's okay. So it's something about how you arrive there. I will say I do think that he really likes her.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And like after they had sex, he even went in the confessional and said something like deeper that really deepened. Like, you know, that really was eye opening for me and like deep in my connection with her and like, you know, I'm really happy where I am is what he said. And I was like, okay, I. I do think he likes her. I think that he's just scared of looking like a hypocrite by being mad at Jeremiah for being closed off and then really liking this girl. I also think there's an element of men feeling like it's corny to outwardly like, oh. And be like committed to a woman. And so they're like. Especially because they ridiculed Jeremiah for it. That they're like, can't do it.

[B]

They did try to clown Jeremiah even when he started to get with Andrina or whatever, they try to get him again. And that's why.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

You're right. That is. I could see it being like, well, yeah, we're in this experience. We have to be exploit. Blah, blah, blah. When I'm like, just say you like.

[A]

This is the only place in the world where you get to cheat. You get to kiss as many girls as you want at any point. And it's not a problem. You're gonna close off you're lame type.

[B]

It's very like, I'm trying to little brother everybody very much. You know why? It's because he's five' eight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's five' eight. And he. He needs to find his way to be big in some other way.

[A]

100.

[B]

That's really. That's the real issues, that he's five' eight.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, there's nothing wrong with being five' eight.

[A]

It's.

[B]

There's a problem. I'm five' seven and I'm proudly five' seven.

[A]

Yeah. Right.

[B]

Having an issue with it, like, that's the real.

[A]

That's fair. I will say. I also feel like Ace could lead a cult.

[B]

Okay, I see that. Sure. Yeah. Charming can like move masses. Like, yeah, he is. Part of me is glad that he's doing this because I think I'm glad that it is exposing that. Like, oh, there's a. Well, for those who can see it, a darker side to that. Like if you see him on Instagram, because he. I'm like, wow, got it. Mad, sweet mad. That. And I'm like, this is exposing. And I'm not. I'm sure he's a fine person. I'm not saying he's a bad.

[A]

We don't know him. Right.

[B]

But I'm saying. But watching it on tv, it's like, be careful. Or like, be aware that everyone on the Internet is a fully three dimensional person and they're adept to It. Even the most lovely, charming, sweet people have sides to them that you do not know.

[A]

100 even him on this.

[B]

He's not being bad. It's just like a. Like the cult unit. Sorry. The culture of it all. Where it's like. Ah yes. There's. This can be used for not good.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I. And I could definitely see that for him and a Leo man. The charisma.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

And also the need for power.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's like certainly a thing is a.

[B]

Gemini is also God.

[A]

Our sister.

[B]

For those of you Jewel is Libra.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So a lot of air. A lot of hot air.

[A]

Nothing behind these eyes. Nothing in his brain but air.

[B]

Stupid. Speaking of power. I have noticed and I guess it was just Sierra and Huda both did this. Is it interesting that people use sex? Because I feel like Sierra had sex with Nick after he still. Who does he have in feelings for? It was someone they was slightly. Was it Iris? I forget who it was. Was some other girl that he was like lightly talking to.

[A]

I kind of remember. Okay. When they had sex.

[B]

That's when she did it. And it could have did the same thing when Iris came in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's. Sorry.

[A]

Manipulative tendencies. So I think that that might have been. Yeah. That for that.

[B]

But even. And I don't think the series was like like necessarily malicious.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But it was like noted that this happened when there was a threat.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I just find that fascinating that sex becomes a.

[A]

A pawn.

[B]

Is that a thing that happens in the house often or. Or like I don't.

[A]

I don't know if it's something that happens in the house. I honestly don't know if they always have sex. Again. This is only my second violence. I tried to watch the first season of UK I was triggered by the way they treated black women. I couldn't do it.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

And this was before they cleaned up the show. So I was like nah, I can't do it. So I don't know. I don't actually know.

[B]

I will say I remember from my brief stint where I was gonna. Where I was kicked off a Big Brother. Not kicked off. Whatever. Backstory. Doesn't matter.

[A]

If you want to tell them backstory. You can.

[B]

Yeah. Whatever. I was alternate for it. They do have sex in the house and I know that they provide condoms and all those things. Like they. They ask you what brand do you like? So they have them in that. They do. They do. Yeah.

[A]

Why do we matter?

[B]

I don't know. I guess so because they're like in the house. But they're like, yeah, you can. They're like, they. So I know that when they're. They are told that they will like, yes, if you do. But also it is on camera. So just know that. And then they are just stocked full of condom. I do know that they not encourage. But they're like, we know this is going to happen. And like, if you want to go.

[A]

For it, we don't want any pregnancies on our very.

[B]

That So I don't know. But do women or. I don't know, I guess men might do this too. I'm just curious of your thoughts on that. Or maybe I'm reading too deeply in using sex as power.

[A]

No, certain. That's something that I feel like both genders do. Certainly. Or all genders do. Yeah.

[B]

So interesting.

[A]

I was kind of like, use sex as a pawn. I will say. I know people use baby as a pawn.

[B]

Oh my God. Well, you know, absolutely.

[A]

So. But it's like people will get you pregnant and you will get pregnant as a means to trap or trap another person. So I feel like sex is probably something similar. Yeah. Yikes. A little bit.

[B]

Or not yikes. Whatever.

[A]

Something else that I did want to touch on. What the hell My armpit look like. Okay. It's not too bad.

[B]

You shave your armpits.

[A]

It's. It's. No, they're pretty shaven. But you know, sometimes they just be dark and sometimes they do that. Yeah.

[B]

From hair.

[A]

Oh, like hyperpigmentation. From fiction of shaving.

[B]

I don't know that that's what. Okay.

[A]

Anyways. Oh, something else I want to touch on. 7 Previous, if I'm not mistaken, the number 7. 7 Previous Love island franchise at large. People have killed themselves. What from?

[B]

I'm so sorry.

[A]

Allegedly from online backlash that they've received. 7. Is that a lot of people?

[B]

I had no idea. Oh my God. From. From all of them. Not just us.

[A]

No. Yeah. From all franchise at large.

[B]

So again, we have to remember.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Not even. Not just the Internet. These people, even the people we're seeing, three dimensional people. You don't know them. And then also they are real people.

[A]

They are real people.

[B]

And so when they get off of this, they will see the things you say. And like, so I don't think I've like. And even on this I've been nice about Huda. I have had thoughts and feelings about Huda.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I have texted in the group chat.

[A]

Yes, no, 100.

[B]

And I'm like. I'm like, okay, yeah. That said she's still a person. And even, even if my feeling, my opinions and thoughts are my opinions and thoughts to put that on her and then to also mass quantities of people putting that on her. Remember, these are humans and not even like, even celebrities are humans. She's not even a celebrity in the sense that, like, I am used to this behavior, you know, I mean, like, there's a level of Beyonce is like, I'm used to people doing this. I've been doing this forever.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Huda is 24 and just got put on here. So, like, and all of that also has a daughter. So like, even if not for her, for her child, like, be cautious of what you are putting out there. Publicly.

[A]

Be super cautious. And also something else that I need to remind myself and also just like a reminder that I feel like it's helpful to put out when the world is dog piling on you. Even the videos that don't seem that mean hurt a lot when you're feel. You're already feeling sensitive because you're already being dialed. So like, even me, for instance, I will make a video. I'm like, you know, huddle. Starting to look a little funny in the light. Like X, Y and Z happens. Maybe. I don't know if I need to make that video, you know, like, maybe I need to think a little bit harder before hitting send on that video. Because at the end of the day, it's still kind of like trying to get viewership off of somebody else's hardship.

[B]

Right. And I, I with that. Like, even the show put a disclaimer on this last episode.

[A]

This is the first time I've seen this.

[B]

I was gonna ask. I was like, I've never seen that. Yeah. Being like, hey, remember, this show is about love. Like, we don't support or endorse bullying. So, like. Yeah, yeah. I just think that's a weird thing about like, like the Internet. And also there's kind of like this nature of like this type of reality show is. I think it's so easy to get swept up in the I.T.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And especially on this daily show when, like, we are really tuned into these people. Like, we're seeing more of these people than we see of any other reality show. Reality show? Yeah, Like Big Brothers. Every three days, this is the only thing that is five days a week.

[B]

Right.

[A]

With a sixth episode where we see like an unseen piece of footage, you know, so it's like we are seeing a lot of these folks and therefore we kind of get the feeling that we know them more than other reality shows.

[B]

Right. But we don't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And not only that, we also have to remember that at the end of the day, it is also a show. It's a show edited for entertainment. But I mean that. But I'm saying also, the. The story that is being put to us is also a story that is being crafted by a team of people.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And I'm not saying. Don't get me wrong. I'll just straight up be like, some of the things that I did and said and like, it feels not good. I'm like, it feels not like I'm like, I hear it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But at the end of the. It is also crafted by a group of people.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And so we don't know all of the things that are going into it. So, yeah, let that be what it is.

[A]

Crafted by a group of people whose primary focus is to entertain you, not to protect Hooda, not to whatever is to make entertaining television. And entertaining television, somebody's the villain.

[B]

Right. And I'm going to say even, like, like, even more so. Especially in the Internet age. Engaging. Yeah, it's like entertaining, yes. But also, comma. Engaging.

[A]

Stuff that people will engage with.

[B]

And we've learned from elections, all those things people engage with negative way more. We had a good. Like, I remember like you were saying earlier when we were watching the show that like, even some of his friends have had to come out and be like, hey, she's not like, blah, blah, blah. Because I've. There have been times where I've been like, I don't know, I. I like, she felt like, not great. I'll just say blue. No.

[A]

100. Like there. There's definitely times I. Okay.

[B]

Yeah. I'm trying to think of like a.

[A]

Okay. Also, I will say transparently, I feel safer to say exactly how I feel on my podcast than I do in a 60 second tick tock. You know what I mean?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

That goes out to, you know, the masses, people who can get a billion views in a few seconds. Whereas you have to be 50 minutes deep into this episode to hear this portion of the conversation. Maybe that's me being advocate, but it is. And has abusive tendencies. I don't want to say that she is abusive, but I recognize the girl. When she got mad at Jeremiah, she started clapping in his face, you know, and something like bent over. I'm like, oh, you hit me. Yeah, you hit me.

[B]

And like, yes. At the early. At minimum, these are the signs of someone who would. Yeah, like, it's like, it's a. Recognizing tendencies of people who do these things. 100 not saying that you are that person. But it's just like it's good to notice signs of like, oh, first step.

[A]

And the attempt to isolate him. Like being like you. You're talking to other people about our problems. You don't need to talk to other people about our problems.

[B]

I'm like wild also. What the is that?

[A]

I was like, that's abuse. That is emotional abuse.

[B]

Cuz I'm like, like. Cuz like what in. In a real relationship. What about therapy? Like, yeah, that was weird. Like. But okay. I remember I didn't see this on the show. Obviously. On the the flip side, people were saying that he would spray his cologne on her pillow. I heard that on the Internet. And I was like again, why would he do that as a term of manipulation to her? So he would. She would. Which I was like that.

[A]

That feels like it's giving him too much credit. He don't seem to be able.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Baby. Again, manipulation requires a little a level of smartness that I didn't get.

[B]

No. Is that the cat?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You talk.

[A]

She's getting. She's getting fed.

[B]

Oh wow.

[A]

She starts screaming when she's getting fed.

[B]

Wow. That was like meth for her. Her eyes were popping out of her head.

[A]

Popping out of her head.

[B]

Crazy. But yeah, I don't know if she. He did that. I heard that on the girl also don't believe on. On the Internet TikTok be just talking. Jeremiah Hood and knew each other other and so did Ally or Ali and aj, Ace and Shelly. Apparently everybody knows each other.

[A]

Didn't know each other. I don't think Jeremiah Hud knew each other but.

[B]

Oh, you were confirming they did know each other.

[A]

They said. They said that they did say. Yeah, they said they met New York City outside of a club or whatever.

[B]

I forgot about that.

[A]

I don't think they're going to work because he's 22 and she's 27.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know she was that old.

[A]

She's 27.

[B]

She's not old, but she's old for him.

[A]

Five years at 22. Five years old. There is a big age gap for the boy to be younger.

[B]

I agree. Because that means he's like he's actually 17.

[A]

Mentally he's 20 and she's 30.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Let that go.

[B]

Even career wise, I imagine you're in different places.

[A]

What Got it. Way different places in life. Right?

[B]

Oh my God. A22LA. No, no thank you.

[A]

I'm good.

[B]

Yuck.

[A]

Personally, I'M all right. Garrett at some point was a 22 year old LA. I didn't know him at that point.

[B]

That couldn't be me. You know, what is the. I'll be damned if whoever that was. Somebody's ringing the alarm somewhere there and.

[A]

I'll be d. Yeah, yeah. What was I gonna tell you? I was gonna tell you something else.

[B]

But yeah, so yeah, so I. I will say yes, Hood has tendencies where I'm like, yikes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I will say she has been less annoying since Jeremiah even post before he left. But like she's been less annoying. And I'm like, all right. I still don't, I still don't want her to win, to take the money. Part of it's still like I want you to be held responsible for your actions, but I have to remember you're 24. I'm sure, I'm sure I can look back and be like, oof. That was probably not good.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, oh baby. Me at 24. Yeah, it was not good. Sure I wasn't like Huda, but I certainly treated men badly. I will say I'm trying to remember, I guess.

[B]

Yeah, I guess maybe we not we. I shouldn't say we all maybe. I guess the thing with me with her is like I can see the. I understand the feelings, the actions feel 100%.

[A]

I understand the feelings and I even understand the first action that she takes.

[B]

Takes which one?

[A]

So like for instance, when she was feeling way about Jeremiah not cooking her breakfast well enough or something I didn't understand. And the rest of the. She was like the rest of the boys, you know, get up and cook breakfast in the morning and you don't. I need you to step it up. That's something I would say. I would get there. Now the subsequent action she took when the breakfast wasn't good enough or when.

[B]

Whatever like girl, I'm like.

[A]

Or when she, when she felt frustrated that he couldn't understand and she started yelling at him.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And being like you and lying about Taylor making her breakfast even though she asked Taylor to make her breakfast. Oh yeah, you're gonna let another man cook breakfast? Like Taylor had to make me breakfast because you asked Taylor to make you a pancake. Because he was already cooking a landry at breakfast.

[B]

Cuz at that point you're painting a narrative.

[A]

Exactly. Now you're lying.

[B]

I can't win. Yeah. At that point I can never win.

[A]

Exactly. You're twisting things to make yourself always the victim and me always the villain.

[B]

And then telltale of just like the future of what this relationship is going to be.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That's who I think it was going to be. Toxic. I just feel like with her I needed to go do some.

[A]

Well, some self. Some stuff.

[B]

A lot of people went to the house. Then he.

[A]

No, certainly not the only one in the house of people. Now, if you had to get rid of one of the islanders right now, what are the kind of original ones you're getting rid of? Ace.

[B]

If Ace has a million haters.

[A]

Okay, all right.

[B]

If Ace has 100 haters, I'm one of them. If he has no more haters, call the ambulance because I'm not breathing and do not resuscitate.

[A]

Got it? Got it. Okay.

[B]

Hey. I don't hate him, but I don't. I want him out.

[A]

Okay. Out of the house. Okay. So that's the boys for one of the girl. If one of the girls had to go right now, mind you, Iris is still there. Sierra, who you said you had no feelings about Amaya.

[B]

Honestly, I guess I want to say Huda, but I. I want to give her a second chance.

[A]

Maybe she'll get Andrina.

[B]

No, I would never get that one. Wow. No. Yeah. Keep her in the house. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Stay there, stay long where she's at.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I had to, it'll be Huda. Huda or Iris. Because Iris also. What the. Like she gets anytime she's on. Yeah, she seems lovely.

[A]

Yes, seems lovely. Yeah.

[B]

I don't. I kill nothing.

[A]

Who would you get out rid of of the boys? I think I would get rid of Austin.

[B]

I like Austin. People hate that he's like Trumpy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not me defending. Yeah. Being Trumpy is bad. But I'm saying any straight white man.

[A]

They'Re going to assume that they're. Yeah. I'm like.

[B]

Unless they are literally from. And even then I'm like, yeah, he's from Northville, Michigan.

[A]

Of course. That is right.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What? He's 22.

[A]

Yeah. I'm getting his ass up out of here though.

[B]

Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But now maybe it's because he trumpy.

[A]

Cuz he trumpy and also face card not eating at all.

[B]

No. But he's funny to me. I enjoy listening to him speak.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You enjoy listening to him Only because he's an idiot. Okay, okay, okay.

[A]

TJ could also go for me.

[B]

Don't do that to him.

[A]

Yeah. T.J. could get the hell.

[B]

Okay, okay. Which girly are you kicking off?

[A]

And for the girlies. Let me take a Gander at the girls again. Okay, so my options are Shelly never.

[B]

Never get rid of her.

[A]

Hutta is definitely contender to get the out of my. Out of my villa. Alandria, I would never get rid of her. And I don't think they're getting rid of her either. You. Lisa is gone. Sierra would never get rid of Sierra. I would never get rid of my. Iris could definitely go.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Iris would be my first. Iris will go, go. If it were up to me, Iris would go.

[B]

I agree. Because she's just kind of there. Yeah.

[A]

I'm like, I literally don't know anything about her.

[B]

And I guess I will say I imagine that is good in reality, in real life. Yeah, it's probably good that you are boring. Like, that is a good sign of like, oh, you're probably a normal adjusted person, right? Terrible for tv.

[A]

Terrible for tv. I'm so bored. Like, get. Go ahead and get on.

[B]

Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I. I would. I would keep Huda because if nothing else, although she's been boring lately. She's good tv.

[A]

She's good tv, baby.

[B]

She was a good, great, great tele. Yeah, I would want them eyelashes turned down a touch, but. Sorry, that's me.

[A]

No, I would like the eyelashes to turn the volume down. Turn the volume down a little bit on my eyelashes. Okay. What is your favorite viral moment to come from the village immediately so far, I'm a mommy, a mama. Sita.

[B]

No, no, I'm a mommy, a mommy, a mommy, mommy, mama.

[A]

He's so, so stupid of what a dog.

[B]

He's simply. That is mommy. Mamacita is so funny to me repeating back mom because he, like, what the did he think?

[A]

And then subsequently voted for her to.

[B]

Go that same immediately was like, well.

[A]

After he admitted to her, I'm your uncle, by the way, I have kids in the world too, because I donated sperm to a couple that couldn't have children. He said that and then was like, yeah, Wow. I love kids. I can't wait, wait. I can't wait to meet. I'm the uncle, but get the uncle. Nick voted your mommy gone immediately silly.

[B]

Yeah. Was funny.

[A]

That was a good one. The moment that I liked was at the top of the show when we were singing Amaya's little song also. We don't want to do that. No, we don't want to do that. Love.

[B]

All of the crying moments have been very funny. Like Hannah sleeping on that pillow with Pippe or not Pepe. Charlie's. Well, he even talked about Charlie.

[A]

I mean, he was aw I don't know.

[B]

Sure, Charlie was fun. I like him in the show. But he could go, yeah. Her crying with him in there. Funny.

[A]

Like, girl cuddling. That. That Polaroid of them together. So hilarious.

[B]

God, what a silly, silly show. I think, yeah. They are acting as if these people are dying.

[A]

Dying. She. She even said that she moved on to Pepe Before's body was cold.

[B]

Girl.

[A]

That was crazy. That really made me. I. I cackled at that portion.

[B]

Also, even Charlie being like, come find me on the outside. I'm like, you got guys. Please call. It is 30 days.

[A]

You also. Charlie had just met them. Come on, come find me on this. You've been there, what, three day, two days?

[B]

I need everyone. And I get it. It's like being a summer camp. Everyone goes to camp. You're locked in a room. You think you're in love with this. I'm sorry. You think you're in love with a theater boy, and it's like, you're not.

[A]

Yeah. You just did a play together.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It's not what it is.

[B]

He's just. You're. Yeah.

[A]

I never went to summer camp, so, like, I didn't have this experience.

[B]

Well, you talked about this. Not. You never did, like, a play or anything where you just spend a lot.

[A]

Of time not into a play. I wasn't a joiner.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. So you never did a group activity where you spent a lot of time with someone.

[A]

And the only time at summer camp, I went to day. Summer day camp, which is different. And I was, you know, on some gay. Gay at that point. I told you that was when, like.

[B]

I didn't realize that was when you started to have those little things.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. All right. So you did have it. It just was with women.

[A]

Right. So I can't. I can't imagine having fallen head over heels for a man in three days.

[B]

I can.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Oh. But I would quickly come back to reality.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I understand the getting lost in. Like, I remember I did a study abroad where I thought I was in love with the ta And I was like, no, we're just in Brazil spending every day together for, like, two weeks. Like, it just feels.

[A]

You did tell me about that.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I'm like, no, you don't love him. You're just horny because you're in this room like this. Yeah.

[A]

Nobody else speaks the language. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Stop it.

[A]

That's fair.

[B]

You don't love it. But, yes.

[A]

That sounds really fun, though.

[B]

It is. I mean, I get it. I'm like a summer fling. Or like a. It's always fun, but. Yeah, it's not. They can grow, but they're usually not rooted in reality.

[A]

How do you feel about the season overall?

[B]

I'm. I'm. Again, I'm so glad that you showed me this show I'm in. I. I hope that every season is like this. I'm gonna go back and watch six.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I love the teaser at the end of this episode. I. I guess we'll find out tonight when this airs. We'll find out tonight what that means.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Part of me feels okay, actually. Question. What do you think that meant? Or like, what do you think? How do you think it's gonna play out?

[A]

I think so. Before we started recording. Recording. You said what you thought. Did I was gonna happen? Yes. And that's what I think is gonna happen.

[B]

Oh, before.

[A]

Is that. Yeah, before we started recording. And that is. They are going to put Alandria and Nick on ice somewhere. Maybe have them watch what's going on in the villa, and then they're going to return them to the villa after we. Both Sierra and Taylor have made connections with the people currently 100, that they're in villa and castle with.

[B]

And I think Taylor is gonna fold. I think Taylor's gonna around.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think Sierra's gonna be devastated.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I think we're gonna get a solid week where they're gone. I also think unless we see Jeremiah on an interview soon. Yeah, I think he's there.

[A]

Same. Unless. You know what somebody did say on Tick Tock that Jeremiah's sister's birthday was yesterday or today. I can't remember. And his social media posted. This is what Jeremiah would post about his sister if he had his phone. Guess you're stuck with me for a little bit longer, winky face.

[B]

Oh, girl. Then he's not gone. You know, I fully believe he's not gone.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And because. Okay, how long does Casa More normally laugh?

[A]

I don't know, like a few episodes. A couple days.

[B]

So what I'm saying is maybe they are all because he left right before Casa More.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And what I'm saying is, is that maybe it may be handed too at this point. All four of them could be locked away somewhere during Casa More.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And then when they all come back, they also come back. And then it's like a huge shuffle, like a huge recoupling with the people who are voted off of Casa More.

[A]

Right.

[B]

The new people and the old people. I. Which I would kind of. I want Jeremiah back because I do want Jeremiah. I Don't even like him like that.

[A]

Y' all got me over here caping for a talking about. He like foreign, comma Latina.

[B]

He's so whack. Like, yeah, that's what I want to happen. I will also add. I. I think sometimes with these shows, what I want is I need people to fight more.

[A]

Now what they need to do is.

[B]

Introduce physical, not violence. Violence is never a real ass.

[A]

Give a about a right six working bag, whole five, six figures. That's what they need to introduce a baddies Fiji.

[B]

I didn't now baddies Fiji.

[A]

Yeah, that's what they need.

[B]

Because I'm like, I. I think that's what always turned me off about these shows sometimes where I'm like, like, if you're not gonna be camp, at least give me, like, drums, like, real drama crying. I want you to be like, I will beat your ass.

[A]

And Hunter did kind of give drama.

[B]

It was abuse, but she was gonna fight a man. Yeah, that's fair. Okay, that's fair. But also, even when people leave, like, I think when Jeremiah left, he was very nice.

[A]

And I'm like, he was so nice.

[B]

And I'm like, no. I'm like, I am taking.

[A]

He should have took that shirt off and started squaring up with Ace.

[B]

I will step on you.

[A]

Yeah, I will step on you, you little teeny, tiny ant.

[B]

Yeah, I just think I. And I get it. Like, you. Especially in the reality TV or the social media era, you probably have to have a level of. I'm being buttoned up. I'm like, I want some real, like, no, you.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

You.

[A]

Did you ever watch the Real World or the Challenge? Yeah, I love you watch the Challenge.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

You like the Challenge?

[B]

Before I watched, like, the early days, so, like, the ct. The ct.

[A]

I'm thinking about ct trying to rip. Rip this one man's head off his body.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

It was blood on the walls.

[B]

That is what. Yeah, that is why I loved it. And then I think I got a little bit too, like, not PC, but, like, they got a little too, like. I think it was after Jersey Shore when Snooki got hit, I think all of MTV got a little, like, no more violence, which they did. That is the right thing to do. Yeah, but the OG when they used to, like, fight, I was like, oh, this feels not good. But I was like, this is good tv.

[A]

That's very cg.

[B]

People up.

[A]

And before Baddies, there was Bad Girls Club. That was on Oxygen in the first, like, six season of Seasons of Bad Girls Club. They would fight and they would show the fights in full pretty much. And then they started editing them. Like weird effects and stuff. Or like, didn't see what was going on. And I was like, ah, this is really annoying. So I do kind of miss old school ass whoopings on reality television, cuz. Yeah.

[B]

I feel like, yeah, that. That was before people were trying to get famous on reality tv. And I was like, yeah, they would just be like, it. I don't give a right.

[A]

Or like New York chasing Pumpkin down, trying to snatch her hair.

[B]

Even that like life drama.

[A]

If Pumpkin was scared for her life, you knew that was real. Like, that was real real. Newark was a character where she was out of character when she was trying to.

[B]

I will actually.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm from New York. Did you know that?

[B]

Did you know that?

[A]

I'm from New York.

[B]

I know. I'm joking about loving Flavor Flav, but don't spit on me.

[A]

Don't ever spit on me.

[B]

This is. This character will drop, baby.

[A]

I will clean.

[B]

She meant it. That's the even. That is a perfect level of like. Because it's a little bit of like a little bit of danger.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But they. Then they're like, all right.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I think.

[B]

I want. Would love them to introduce into Love Island. Just a little bit of like, I. I could you up right now.

[A]

And then they cut it.

[B]

The two nice. When they leave.

[A]

That's nice. That's. That's so real.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I'm excited for the rest of the season. Circle back at the end of the season because I will be doing another episode.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

I know. We going to cover the rest of.

[B]

This and see who wins.

[A]

And see who wins. Cuz. Don't piss me off.

[B]

Shell's gonna win with someone else. There was something else I needed to know.

[A]

I just. I do want Shelly and Ace to win. I'm actually kind of annoyed by it. But like, like, I do want Shelly. I like them. I don't like him, but I do like them.

[B]

Oh, I get it. You like Shelly a lot. Them together. You're like, also, this is good.

[A]

When he let that guard down and he, like, started being outward about how much he likes her, I was like.

[B]

Don'T let it work. Don't let it. This is the cult leader.

[A]

It is.

[B]

This is the cult leader.

[A]

I always. I'm telling you, I hate it.

[B]

I hate it.

[A]

I'm susceptible to cult behavior.

[B]

This is insane. Saying, oh my goodness.

[A]

But yeah, I think that's really it. You got Anything else you want to say?

[B]

No, there was something. The thought went away. Something about violence. New York fighting, more violence.

[A]

Yeah. No way.

[B]

It'll come back.

[A]

In the meantime, if you would like to talk to us about Love island or literally anything else, or suggest stuff that you want us to cover while the. The theme of the podcast will remain the same. The title will be changed sooner or later, but you can still suggest topics and all that. It'll be the same podcast under New Brain or anything.

[B]

Yeah. What the do y' all want to talk about?

[A]

What do you want? And also if you actually have suggestions for a title, because while I do have one that is working, if you think something else sounds better, if you have a personal suggestion, send it my way.

[B]

I. I would like it also because I'm like, put us on to something. I would like to be something that I don't know, that I'm like, oh, let's go watch it. Or like, explore this thing. Talk about. Because that's kind of fun too. There might be some that I don't know.

[A]

Yeah. So, yeah, if you have suggestions, hate mail and all that, you can email me at.

[B]

Dude, don't send the hate mail. I mean, well, maybe I don't know.

[A]

My haters are my motivators. You can send it at Black people love hairmore gmail.com or you can add us across social media at VPLP5. And my own personal socials are at Sequoia B. Holmes.

[B]

Yeah, you can find me at Good Guy Ry Ride. But yeah, I'm excited.

[A]

And that's really it. And again, if you want to listen to me every single day, five days a week, you can check me out on the daily dirty on SiriusXM on the unwell On Air channel. We are Alive. It is not a podcast that is confusing to people. Is a live radio show, live every day from 3 to 4pm Pacific Time, and it is live nationwide.

[B]

In Canada, you talk on Love island there, too.

[A]

Talking Love island every single day. So you can get. You can get daily updates, right? If you want that real thoughts, check it in. Because I'm chatting, baby. I always got something to say. But yeah. Yeah. All right, well, see y' all next time.

[B]

Bye Bye, Sam.