Former Badgers TE Jacob Pedersen joins Bernie and Perko to discuss how he made it from a small town in the Upper Peninsula to Madison, setting the all-time touchdown record for tight ends for UW, why he nearly quit the team his freshman year, playing with Russell Wilson, and much more.

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While you're at it, tune into the Money Down Podcast with James White, LeGarrette Blount, Sojourn Shelton, and Warren Herring.

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