Episode 554 - Salim Khan || The Pakistan You Had No Idea About

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Blood Origins Podcast Summary

Episode: 554 - Salim Khan || The Pakistan You Had No Idea About
Release Date: April 29, 2025
Host: Blood Origins Inc.
Guest: Salim Ahmed Khan

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1. Introduction to Salim Ahmed Khan

Salim Ahmed Khan, a Pakistani native, has been involved in hunting since the age of four. At 57 years old, he has dedicated his life to outfitting hunting games in Pakistan and is passionate about implementing wildlife management models inspired by South Africa. His goal is to reintroduce and rehabilitate native wildlife species in Pakistan, such as Axis deer, Blackbuck, Nilgai (Blue Bull), and Suleiman Markhor.

“...he's involved in the outfitting hunting game in Pakistan and very interested in figuring out how to replicate wildlife management models from South Africa into Pakistan.” (00:40)

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2. Evolution of Hunting in Pakistan

Salim recounts how hunting in Pakistan has transformed over the decades. Initially, hunting was primarily for sustenance, with little regulation or conservation efforts. As the human population surged, habitat loss became a significant issue, leading to a drastic decline in wildlife populations.

“When we were young, there were no rules. We used to go and massacre whatever we could get our hands on... the value of that animal is reduced to just value for meat.” (05:19)

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3. Formation of the Safari Club of Pakistan

Around 2008-2009, recognizing the dire state of wildlife conservation, Salim, alongside a local partner, founded the Safari Club of Pakistan. They successfully drafted a law permitting private club game ownership and game farm ownership, modeled after South Africa’s conservation strategies. This initiative led to the establishment of the first private game reserve in the S Province.

“We opened the first private game reserve in that province with a friend who already had some landholding and some forest...” (14:29)

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4. Reintroduction of Native Species

The Safari Club focused on reintroducing native species by leveraging existing private breeding farms in Pakistan. Despite challenges such as floods and poaching, the initiative saw success by releasing species like Blackbuck, Blue Bull, Axis deer, and Chital into expansive private reserves totaling approximately 10,000 to 15,000 acres.

“Once you put value to the animals, then habitat becomes valuable, because without habitat, you cannot have the animals there.” (18:49)

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5. Socioeconomic Impact of Conservation Efforts

The conservation projects have had a profound socioeconomic impact on local communities. By setting aside land for wildlife, new employment opportunities have emerged, including game watchers, gamekeepers, and administrative roles supporting hunting operations. Additionally, these initiatives have stimulated local economies through infrastructure development and business opportunities.

“There's employment coming in. Second thing is then you need gamekeepers, you need a whole administrative system for the area. So that's jobs and only the area people could do that.” (22:09)

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6. Challenges in Conservation and Hunting

Despite the progress, the initiatives face several challenges:

• Habitat Loss: Rapid urbanization and agricultural expansion have continued to pressure natural habitats.
• Poaching: Illegal hunting remains a threat to reintroduced species.
• Human-Wildlife Conflict: Encroachment on habitats leads to conflicts, especially with aggressive species like the Blue Bull.
• Regulatory Hurdles: Navigating government regulations and securing exportable permits for hunting can be complex.

“Problem is that these animals are in the beginning, they're in captive conditions and they're eventually released. So they're susceptible to village dogs, to jackals...” (27:19)

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7. Future Plans and Ambitious Ideas

Towards the end of the podcast, Salim and Robert brainstorm ambitious ideas to bolster conservation efforts. One standout idea involves importing Selenium deer from Australia to Pakistan, addressing the invasive species issue in Australia while enriching Pakistan’s wildlife.

“We should do this. Well, we should do this. I'm ready I'm ready whenever you are.” (40:42)

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8. Addressing Misconceptions About Pakistan

A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to dispelling myths about Pakistan being dangerous. Salim emphasizes that with proper planning and security arrangements, hunting in Pakistan is safe and rewarding. He encourages potential hunters to visit and experience Pakistan’s rich hunting grounds firsthand.

“They need to talk to a couple of hunters that I've had. They land at the airport. Next day, they're screaming and shouting... It's not like that. It's a great country, really.” (42:36)

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9. Conclusion and Call to Action

Salim concludes by highlighting the importance of conveying the truth about hunting and its role in conservation. He urges listeners to share their stories and support initiatives that align hunting with effective wildlife management.

“There's a reason why I started Blood Origins and that reason is simple is that I wanted to convey the truth about hunting.” (02:54)

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Notable Quotes

• “I've been using their gear for years... It's tough, it's reliable and it works whether you're just getting started or you're ready to take the step to the next level.” — Robert Arrington (00:08)

• “This can be a good podcast then, if you love your voice... What's the beauty about this podcast and the beauty about an environment like this is we get to speak to people from all over the world.” — Salim Ahmed Khan (03:47)

• “Once you put value to the animals, then habitat becomes valuable, because without habitat, you cannot have the animals there.” — Salim Ahmed Khan (18:49)

• “If you do a non-exportable, it's within the province and you can convince them at even having five males you could shoot one.” — Salim Ahmed Khan (33:03)

• “They just met each other yesterday... Why are we trying to bring hunters to Pakistan.” — Salim Ahmed Khan (04:06)

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Final Thoughts

This episode of Blood Origins delves deep into the nuances of hunting and conservation in Pakistan through the experiences and insights of Salim Ahmed Khan. It underscores the delicate balance between utilizing hunting as a tool for conservation and ensuring sustainable wildlife management. Salim’s efforts highlight how responsible hunting can contribute to ecosystem preservation and socioeconomic development in local communities.

For those interested in understanding the complexities of wildlife management in Pakistan or seeking opportunities to participate in conservation-driven hunting, this episode offers invaluable perspectives and actionable ideas.

Transcript

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[Salim Ahmed Khan]

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[Robert Arrington]

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[Robert Arrington]

It brings awareness to non hunters that it's more than just killing animals. How do I start it?

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Brittany My name. Does my hair look okay? My Name is Mike Axelrod. Start again. Yeah, I hated it too. Braxton, you said something in the car to me. You said that you were living on borrowed time. There's a perception around who hunters are, what we're supposed to be. And a feminist that works for a non profit that is a hunter that has only eaten wild game for the last 20 years is likely not the thing that people think about when it comes to a hunter. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever done a podcast before?

[Robert Arrington]

I've never done one.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

I love talking to people who have never done podcasts before. Bring that microphone.

[Robert Arrington]

Just a little touch up.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Bend it up a little bit more. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's perfect. Can you hear yourself better? Yeah, yeah, perfect.

[Robert Arrington]

Love my voice.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You love your voice. Well, this can be a good podcast then, if you love your voice. You know, what's the beauty about this podcast and the beauty about an environment like this is we get to speak to people from all over the world. And we just met each other yesterday.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes, we did. And, yeah, I've traveled all the way across from Pakistan and then never even knew people like you existed. And doing what they are doing, which is amazing because you're connecting that far remote areas. And like you said that people only see the hunts. They say the animal, the trophies, and the hunter, but there's a lot more behind it. What creates the opportunity? What allows for conservation to happen there? What allows for the hunters to go and enjoy the hunt. Very few people get to know about it, although they are contributing by hunting, by doing the trophy hunts. But what actually is going on, that's something very few people know. And you're the one who brings all that information out.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Introduce yourself to everyone.

[Robert Arrington]

Okay. I'm from Pakistan. I work with arcos. I'm their partner in Pakistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Your name is?

[Robert Arrington]

My name is Salim Ahmed Khan. I'm 57 years old.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Have you hunted all your life?

[Robert Arrington]

All my life. My. Since I guess I was 4 or 5. My dad used to take.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Really?

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. So.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So what would that be like when you were 4 or 5? What is hunting like in Pakistan? Are you hunting private ground? Is there public ground to hunt?

[Robert Arrington]

When we were young, there were no rules. There were rules, but nobody enforced them. And truly speaking, we used to go and massacre whatever we could get our hands on, which was like basically birds, franklins in areas.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You got a good diversity of Franklins in Pakistan?

[Robert Arrington]

Yes, we got two. Yeah. In fact, we've got more. But we hunted in the area we lived. We had black Franklin and gray Franklin. We had the Chinkara. We had the Blandford sheep, we had the Sindh ibex and we used to go. And I mean literally when I was about 12, we one day I remember having shot 19 Shankaras. And what's a shankara? Shinkara is a gazelle, the Indian gazelle.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

We used to go shoot many iPads.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And what are you shooting with?

[Robert Arrington]

Are you the rifle?

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What kind of rifle?

[Robert Arrington]

The rifle, it was like a 243, 270 Winchester featherweight model.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Easy to get in Pakistan at that time.

[Robert Arrington]

At that time, yes. And very basic scopes. But it was, the hunting was more, I mean it was just so much available and no laws and no awareness in those days. So it just seemed natural that you go out. We went out because we got out into the outdoors. We were camping, having a great time in the winters. The weather used to be absolutely perfect. A lot of friends used to go along so, you know, go out there, camp in the open.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Is this something? So when let's. You said you're 56 years old now. 7:57. So this is 50 years ago. What was the narrative and perceptions of hunting in Pakistan?

[Robert Arrington]

There everyone accepted it, very few people hunted. It wasn't socially acceptable.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Was it a class thing?

[Robert Arrington]

Well you see historically when you look at it, all those people living in rural areas who were like well to do or had land holdings, great landholdings or had titles. My family came from India. They lived in an area where there was plenty of population of animals, especially blackbuck and blue bull. They didn't have fridges in that time, pre partition 1947. So whatever meat you ate, you shot that day. So literally it was the servants were given some buckshot and sent with a shotgun to just bring in a couple of black buck to be cooked. So when there's a lot of game around and not many hunters, the value of that animal is reduced to just value for meat.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You know, meat in the pot because.

[Robert Arrington]

Otherwise it did not have. It was eating the crops. It was conflicting with grazing rights of the domestic animals.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

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[Robert Arrington]

So, yeah, it was basically food in those times, which was carried over into Pakistan. And then when my family, my father came over. And then when I grew up, all I did was. I would love to. I mean, I couldn't sleep the night before we were going hunting. It was so exciting to go out in the wild. Population was very low at that time when I was Human population. Yeah, human population. So there were a lot of big areas. Let's move on to what's happening now because we've got about unofficially 300 million people in the area size of California and Oregon.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Jeez.

[Robert Arrington]

So you can well imagine habitat.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Oh, the pressure on habitat.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes. If you don't have habitat, you won't have animals. So with so many people, all the habitat came under the plow. And in areas where there was no agriculture, the mountains, they came under mining, thereby, as I said before, it was meat. Value for meat. The animal population went down to such an extent, I grew older, I came to the States, I studied here.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So you physically saw.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Ibex, Gazelle populations plummet to nothing.

[Robert Arrington]

To nothing. And there'd be days when we'd go out and go on the mountains for two, three days and not see a single animal. Because before, in the early 70s, it wasn't a question of a good male, it was a question of an animal.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Which one?

[Robert Arrington]

Anyone. Female? Male.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. It wasn't. You weren't picky.

[Robert Arrington]

No.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Because you were going. It was for the pot.

[Robert Arrington]

It was basically hunting.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Oh, okay.

[Robert Arrington]

So if you didn't see a male, you needed to shoot something.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

You'd come hunting.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

The awareness was honestly not there.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So when we. When I started growing up, then I finally realized the areas where I used to go and have fun with my dad had nothing. The trees were cut from there because people were relying on selling wood. All the forest was gone because they sold the trees and then started farming it.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But are these areas public areas? Can anybody go in there and cut the trees down and sell? Or is it private guys who said, I want to sell the trees because I want to make some money.

[Robert Arrington]

See the guys living there? It's not like America where you've got thousands of acres of land with nobody living there. There's people always living somewhere. And those people living on government land, obviously, for centuries, they claim it as their property.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Sure.

[Robert Arrington]

Otherwise you've Got landed gentry in the farmed area and they've got huge tracts of land also. So the river. The main population of animals was along the Indus river, which runs from north to south in Pakistan. So the forest was supposed to be there, but with the growing population, people just felled the forest and started cultivating within the banks of the river and they started settling there. So this was a big concern. And only few large landowners held onto bits and pieces of forest. And in those bits and pieces, what remained from earlier years was hogdeer, wild boar and jackal.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

And, well, you know, I came to the point around 2008, 9, when I seriously thought something must be done. So me and a gentleman in Pakistan, we got together, opened a club. It was called the Safari Club of Pakistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

And through that, we drafted a law for private club game ownership, game farm ownership.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Because at that time, you couldn't own game. It was all. Did it all belong to the government?

[Robert Arrington]

It all belonged to the government, even on your private parity. So on the. And we honestly copied South Africa's model.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So one province got that approved, which is the S province where I live, and we opened the first private game reserve in that province with a friend of mine who already had some land holding and some forest because he used to hold hunts for his friends. So he had hogdeer, he had wild boar and jackal. And then we started reintroducing blue bull, nilgai, axis deer, chital and blackbuck.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What's the Pakistani word for blackbuck?

[Robert Arrington]

Kalaharan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Kalaharan.

[Robert Arrington]

Kala means black. Haran means buck.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Nilgai is for blue bull. Neel. Neel means blue. And gai means bull.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And chital.

[Robert Arrington]

Chital is. I can't really. There's no definition.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

There's no real definition.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah, Axis there. And chital.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And so where were you getting these animals to reintroduce?

[Robert Arrington]

People had them in private breeding farms in Pakistan. Yeah, yeah. And they're blackbuck. There is a certain wild population, but it's on the border of Pakistan and India where you can hardly go and shoot very, very few animals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Same with blue bull. So traditionally, I mean, historically, they'd been here, so. But long time ago. So we started reintroducing them. It was a hell of a task because primarily the area that we. The forest remained in was within the riverbanks. And in the monsoons, there's a flood. So hog deer, axis deer will survive, but blackbuck and blue bull are not really water animals. But they do live in agricultural land along with the forest. So we kept doing that and lost a lot of animals also. But the good part was this guy had a huge chunk of land, and all the surrounding area was basically owned by his cousins with whom he had influence. So we got about 10, 15,000 acres as a hole where we could release them. It was successful. Few bad floods wiped all of them out. We reintroduced them.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And what happened was slowly and gradually, people first started laughing at him, saying, oh, you're selling your animals. Which is, like, you know, demeaning. You're such a big landlord, and now you're selling animals. But he stuck.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Who was it demeaning to him? Was it more cultural?

[Robert Arrington]

Cultural? Oh, my God, you're such a big landlord. You're so rich, and now you might be more money. Yeah. Instead of, like, having hunts for your friends. Because before, he used to have hunts for his friends free. So they were the ones who were the most affected. Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So the friends were demeaning. Yes. The top friend. To say, you're not giving us free hunts anymore.

[Robert Arrington]

Their rights were being violated anyway, so then what happened was as hunter started coming in, he didn't. The landowner didn't believe me when I said, we'll bring in hunters. And we started with. I remember Craig Boddington and J. Allen Smith.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

True.

[Robert Arrington]

They were the first ones. And after that, they recommended a lot of people, and a lot of people came in. The surrounding landowners realized, man, this guy's making money and he's making good money.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And this is Blackbuck and Nilgar.

[Robert Arrington]

And Access, we have a package of seven.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Seven species.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Which is all of these.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So I'm talking about the jungle species, because that's recent.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

The Blandford Sindhaibecks, Blandford, Oriel, the Markhor. Those are stories that have already been established. And they're popular. They've been existing for a long time.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But it's the same story for your jungle animals. It's all tied to value, Right?

[Robert Arrington]

Exactly. The story is the same. It's. The area is different, the people are different, but the story is the same. It's how you put value to the animals. Once you put value, then habitat becomes valuable, because without habitat, you cannot have the animals there. So starting point was where this guy had a few, you know, had some forest where we could release them. Like I said, people started realizing, man, there's good money in this. So eventually what happened was a friend who. Of mine, a common friend of mine and this land guy's who Is about an hour away from him, has a similar area. Approached me and said, I would like to do this too. And surprisingly coincidentally, Safari club, Shikar Safari club, a couple of their members had hunted with us, and they were very eager to get interested in reintroduction of species.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Didn't you say specifically. Was it Ricardo?

[Robert Arrington]

Ricardo, yeah. Ricardo helped us.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

He. He had come and hunted the jungle hunt with us, and he was with a bow. With a bow.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

He's an amazing bow hunter, isn't he?

[Robert Arrington]

He is. He is.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

I'm telling you what I say this publicly, I think. I think one of the best bow hunters in the world is Pedro Impero. Okay, okay. Out of Spain.

[Robert Arrington]

Uhhuh.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But probably very, very close to him, if not equal to Pedro that nobody knows about, because Pedro's a big public figure. Instagram, you know.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But somebody who's very close, but if not equal, that nobody knows about is Ricardo Longoria.

[Robert Arrington]

Absolutely. He got all the seven species with his boa, which is jackal being the hardest.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

He slings arrows at 100 yards in, like, little dime size. Just.

[Robert Arrington]

He got a Cincara Indian gazelle. I was there. I was the one who measured the distance was a 95 yard. So, I mean, you know, this guy can really.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Was that the hunt? I think I remember. Was it. Was it. Are there rocks in the landscape and whatnot?

[Robert Arrington]

No, no, no. That was when he went for the sheep.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay. That.

[Robert Arrington]

I didn't come with me for that.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Came for the jungle hunt.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

He'd done all his hunts, and then he came to me, the jungle hunt. I, you know. But he's coming back.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay. Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Provided his ankle lets on.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. He's doing well. He's doing well.

[Robert Arrington]

He's just, you know, reluctant to come back. But we're going to force him.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Sure.

[Robert Arrington]

So he organized this $50,000 grant for reintroduction of blackbuck.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Amazing.

[Robert Arrington]

First we were going to do it in another. Another area where there are certain issues recently developed. So we're going to change it to this guy, the new guy who wants to join in. And we've got the agreements going on and see what happens with. Once you put value to animals, then an entire economy, a socioeconomic development occurs in that area. Yes. You set aside land for forest, which gives you money every three years because you can't let the forest just grow. You have to cut it.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. So it's called TSI in America. Timber stand improvement. Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So what they do is they keep planting alternatives. So when you cut, you've already Got another. So more land is going into that, but more importantly, you need to protect the animals. Firstly means all the villagers living in the surrounding areas, one person from that village is employed as game watcher. So there's employment coming in. Second thing is then you need gamekeepers, you need a whole administrative system for the area. So that's jobs and only the area people could do that. Then you've got admin jobs where you, whereby you're arranging logistics for the hunters at that camp. So you got cooks, you've got drivers, you've got, you know, people servicing you at the, at the farm and wherever you're staying. These guys improve their, their lodgings also. So that entire industry starts off Skinners tack trackers.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yep. Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And those guys then start benefiting and realize that, you know, this is good money.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Tell me, give me a little bit of insight of what's happening in these areas. Without it, like what's the, what's the economy like in these areas? What are these guys doing for jobs in these areas?

[Robert Arrington]

And, and, and this area? It's basically farming.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

That's it. They're farming for themselves.

[Robert Arrington]

No, mostly they're farming for farmers. They're peasant farmers. What you would call, we call them the Hari. So he's a sharecropper.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

So he tills the land for a percentage.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. The input is provided by the farmer, but he does the actual work. And with farming and environment, you know, the climate change, there's no stability in prices, there's no stability in weather. So one year could be good and then two years you could have bad. So these guys, that's the only opportunity for income they have. So all of a sudden you've got this new source of income coming in. You've got a lot of meat. Every hunt the meat is going to these people. So.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And everyone eats the meat there.

[Robert Arrington]

Oh, it's just like even the wild boar and the jackal are eaten by communities that are non Muslims.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And they love it.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So they eat the jackals. Yes. It's a Hindu community. The low cost Hindus, they are there.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Wow.

[Robert Arrington]

They love the cat. Wildcat. But we don't, we can't shoot the wild cat.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Sure, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

Maybe one day, maybe it was allowed. But after the floods they were wiped out. So the Bandit, we've started seeing them.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Cool.

[Robert Arrington]

We were shooting them before and now maybe when there's a good enough population, we'll be allowed to shoot. Yeah. So yeah, nothing goes to waste. Absolutely nothing. Literally. As you might know, all around the world that they even cook the heads, the trotters.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You know what's funny about. I heard a community in Pakistan, you know, obviously people talk about trophies and all you guys are interested in the heads. That's all you're interested in. And this was this, this, this phrase came out of Pakistan, which is, they asked one of the, like, local guys and like, oh, you know, why won't you keep the heads? You know, he's like, why would we keep the heads? That's like the least most important part of the animal. We're giving that away. You take it, go back to America, take the head. We don't want it.

[Robert Arrington]

That's the money. That's what the money is for you.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But you take it because it means nothing to us.

[Robert Arrington]

Exactly.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We want the meat.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We want the organs, we want the jobs, we want the employment. The head. Screw the head. He take it.

[Robert Arrington]

Exactly. So what's valuable for somebody is not valuable for the other person.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And there's no conflict. But the biggest thing is this new, new employment opportunity coming in into these areas with this guy who, let's call him Akib, for instance, the guy who has the existing reserve. And then there's another guy who's just where we're going to be investing it. He's so excited. His people are excited because him and his people have seen what happens at Arkhips when the hunter comes. And, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's good money and it's something they like to do. So I'm going to go back, we're going to organize everything. And he's building the fences, the holding fences, where we're going to have the animals before we release.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So are these areas high fenced?

[Robert Arrington]

No, these are absolutely free range.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So it's just a collective of.

[Robert Arrington]

He's got a major trunk and his cousins own the surrounding land.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What are we talking about in terms of acreage?

[Robert Arrington]

All of them combined. Cousins and him. We're looking about 10, 15,000 acres. But of course, that's big. Yes. But the nilgai, the blue bull, is like an eland. Once it starts walking, it doesn't stop. So you're going to lose. You're going to lose animals, and that's.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Gonna lose animals to what? Poaching.

[Robert Arrington]

Poaching, yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

So problem is that also these guys, these animals are in, in the beginning, they're in captive, captive animals, and they're eventually released. So they're susceptible to village dogs, to jackals, because they're not really Aware it takes a while for a jackal can't.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Take down a bulbul.

[Robert Arrington]

Dogs can.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Really.

[Robert Arrington]

A pack of dogs.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And blue bull is aggressive, so that's another issue. If you leave him, it will eventually. If it comes in contact.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

There's some human wildlife conflict.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But I think in India somebody says that they're burying like 200 bulbul today.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. Because there's so many.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And they have incidents, but over here there's so few. So we're doing okay right now until our time comes. That's why also, they cannot be so cheap because reintroduction cost is so much and you're losing animals. So this is what my personal opinion was. Because we lost the habitat, because the population went crazy, we lost opportunities to hunt. Rules. Yeah. They're being implemented by the government a little bit more strictly. But of course there's an elite that does not follow those rules. And basically public areas, only those areas where the commercial trophy hunting for foreigners is going on, where they're getting money, there's protection of animals, where it's open areas, few people have kept it and they locally provide commercial hunts. So, yeah, it's all about placing value to the animals. And then. And then sort of, you know, that's when your conservation starts. That's it. So what we're now working on is an area up in the Northern Province, kpk.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Where.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What does KPK stand for? Okay. That's why you say kpk. Okay, I understand.

[Robert Arrington]

So it was Northwest Frontier Province before they changed it. So southern part of that province, you have the Suleiman Mountain range extending from Quetta.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

And you have the Suleiman Markhor and the Afghan Oriyal on that mountain. So this particular area has. We've worked towards creating a community, registering it officially, and it does have a very small herd of Suleiman Markhor and maybe a few Afghan Uriyals. We haven't.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And so everyone who's not aware understands the meaning behind the markhor in Pakistan. Give me quick rundown.

[Robert Arrington]

Okay. The markhor conservation program started many years ago because they're very rare animals and sought after. We've got four types of markhors and they. They sell four in Pakistan. All four in Pakistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Nobody else has four, right?

[Robert Arrington]

Nobody else has four.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Who else has markhor?

[Robert Arrington]

Tajikistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Tajikistan.

[Robert Arrington]

Bukharan Markhor.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Bukharan one.

[Robert Arrington]

Then there's the Kabul Markor in Afghanistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Nobody's hunting Kabul, though. Nobody's hunting Afghanistan.

[Robert Arrington]

Nobody ever hunt.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So we've Got four. One is a recent development. We've got the Kashmir Markhor, which is in the KPK process. We've got the Suleiman Markhor in the Balochistan province. We've got the Astor and Skardu Markhor in Gilgit. Okay, so these are four, unfortunately, the fourth, Skardu and Astoria, they're the same place. It's recently been classified as Kardu. So the total permits in that area remain four. Kashmir is four permits and Suleiman Markhor is four permits.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So 12 permits, 12 Markhor a year.

[Robert Arrington]

In Pakistan and an average price of 150,000 plus.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

150 plus?

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Used to be like 200 when it first started. Right.

[Robert Arrington]

It's going to end up at 250 because this is just the auction price that I'm talking about.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Oh, okay, okay. You've got the arrangement, then you've got everything else.

[Robert Arrington]

That's an average one.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

That's the tag.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. The last Kashmir markhor, the highest price was 271,000 just for the tag.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

That doesn't include your hunts?

[Robert Arrington]

No, nothing.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Food, nothing. Transport, nothing, Nothing, nothing.

[Robert Arrington]

So you're looking for a Kashmir that's sold at 271. Look at 350,000 package. So what we want to do is this new conservancy, community, you can call it, it's a community based organization where all the communities are involved.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And a lot of the Markhor stuff is community based.

[Robert Arrington]

Oh, all of it is.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

All of it is.

[Robert Arrington]

We all benefited. I'll tell you examples of some in Gilgit. The money, what do they do with the money? One community has built a hostel in Gilgit City for their community, people who go and study so they can live there.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Jeez.

[Robert Arrington]

So one community, one community has got a fund which they give to their own community members if one wants to start a business.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Very cool.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. And then there's one community is a little bit, well to do. They've been generating a lot of money. Amongst other things. What they did was go buy a tract of land near the capital and allotted portions to all the community members that if they want to go and work in Islamabad or they have to go there, study, so they'll have some land where they can build something interesting. So it's. It's amazing. It's amazing how they're benefiting from all these things. So that's one area where our next project will be to reintroduce the Suleiman Markhor and the Afghan Oriya.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And you said those again will come from private places?

[Robert Arrington]

Yes, private places. It's a long term plan. There is an initial herd already there.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So you said 10 animals.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

How many animals do you think you need on the mountain before say the Pakistan government says okay, we'll give you one tag.

[Robert Arrington]

Okay. If you do a non exportable, it's within the province. The decision lies within the province and you can convince them at even having five males you could shoot one. Why? Because the minute you kickstart the investment coming in is when they're going to.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Protect the animals that people really get interested.

[Robert Arrington]

It's.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

It went from like I don't know which mark or species but it went from you know, less than 300 animals to now three and a half thousand.

[Robert Arrington]

Oh yeah, animals, yes. And it's. We've been requesting the federal government which controls the exportable permits.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So the 12 you were talking about are the exportable permits. Exportable.

[Robert Arrington]

So we finally managed to convince the KPK government to issue six non exportable Kashmir Markor permits this year. Two of them were auctioned by GSCO on behalf of the government. All the funds were sent back.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Perfect.

[Robert Arrington]

And that really created more awareness because.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Has any, have, has anybody done that before?

[Robert Arrington]

Is this the first year, first time it's ever happened?

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Non exportable markor?

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. In Kashmir. They did do it in Gilgit but then nobody followed it up so they didn't do it again. And we're working towards that also. And it's the first time it's been auctioned out of Pakistan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

In the relevant forum because all the clients that are coming, 90% come from GSE Oil and SCI.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So we we're going to try and ask the government to increase the exportable permits also. But meanwhile at least we'll be able to provide hunters with an option to hunt a non exportable Suleiman Marport. All the while creating employment in an area where there was none. Well, not the kind that we would generate and then provide a habitat for the animals to survive.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes. This is basically what my purpose has become. I don't hunt anymore. Done enough hunting of birds and everything.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You're not a good shot anymore.

[Robert Arrington]

I'm not. I never was a dead shot. I just like to hunt. I just like to go out and enjoy the camp, the campfire, the stars. Yeah, yeah. The cold weather and the camaraderie that always comes with it has.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Have you seen. I haven't heard about it. So maybe there isn't. Obviously your next door neighbor. India is like the epicenter of anti hunting, anti use rhetoric. I say either India or Nairobi, Kenya are the top tier, top places for that in the world. Is there any spillover into Pakistan of that kind of sentiment?

[Robert Arrington]

The only spillover is blue bull and blackbuck that are excess. And the Indians let them in through the gates on the border because they're destroying their crops.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. Shoo them.

[Robert Arrington]

The sentiment. No, because in India, in Kenya, there are two different reasons. Right. One, in India, it's more.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

I mean, Pakistan.

[Robert Arrington]

I'm just saying. And it's a religious reason.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

That they don't allow hunting Kenya, I'm not aware of why they don't. Because it's not in their.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

In 1977, it was the president who said, yes.

[Robert Arrington]

Somebody decided nobody has the guts to change that.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So the sentiment does not come over. But because of media, social media, because of coverage of all the trophy hunting, people have begun to realize that this is also a valuable national resource. And whoever can have game on his farm or area, he can generate another source of income. And obviously with the dollar exchange, it's big money.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Sure, sure.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah, yeah. And that's how they hold. Like people who want to hold control. There's always a tear of. Of power. Right. So the guy in that area who's the most powerful, he realizes now that to be politically relevant, he has to have economic power over his people. It's no longer based on tribes, it's no longer based on historical allegiances. Nothing. It's all economic matter. If you control the guy economically, he will be with you, he will vote for you, he will stand by.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Do you think control is the. Maybe I don't think control is the right word here because control seems to be like domineering.

[Robert Arrington]

It is domineering because he's the head guy. I mean. Oh, Frank, with you.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Oh, okay.

[Robert Arrington]

He becomes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Well, then explain to me how the system is, because obviously there is. Is it almost like a chief?

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah, it's. It's like a chief.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

The chief in. In areas where there's farmland, the chief can be. His area would have different tribes, but they would stand with him.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

So is the chief in Pakistan elected, or is it familial? Like you're always the chief, your lineage is always elected.

[Robert Arrington]

But the political bigwigs run in the family lineage. So you'll have 1, 2 guys, 3 guys fighting it out in one area. But they will be. Politically, they would have a history. Their father would have been elected. Sure, sure. So you've got these three people competing. Who are they going to vote for. Before, it was basically tribal. If you were from the same tribe, if you were the farmer for that guy, even from a different tribe or it was political allegiances created long time ago. But now the only allegiance that comes is if you are providing them with some economic systems. This, this provides. Sure, yeah, sure, yeah. So economic control.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

It's like any politician, Right. The politician saying, you know, I'm going to bring jobs to the area, I'm going to improve your lives in this area. Stick with me, I'm going to help you.

[Robert Arrington]

Exactly. But those are like making promises. This is you. When you deliver, that's when people believe you.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So there's a lot to do in Pakistan. There are so many species we are looking at reintroducing. One is the sambar, the other is the swamp deer.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah. Plus, you know, are those in private facilities also?

[Robert Arrington]

Well, get somewhere else. Not been able to find swamp deer. Yeah, the sambara are available. They're so few. They're very expensive.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

So they would be somewhere around $10,000 for a male.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Geez.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes. So to invest that kind of money to buy. Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

For reintroduction. Oh my gosh.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes, yes. So right now that's the biggest hurdle. And they're not that.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And you can't go get some in India and bring them back.

[Robert Arrington]

No, India. There's no trade allowed.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But they've got so many animals.

[Robert Arrington]

I know the only option remains Australia. America.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, America. Yeah. Australia for sure.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. We'll have to work on those at some point. But first, you know, just doing these black buck, the small animals where, where the area is. Right.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

How cool would it be to go to Australia where samba deer are considered non native, feral and invasive. Yeah. And do a helicopter capture.

[Robert Arrington]

Oh, it would be amazing.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Of 24 or 30 search animal and bring them back to Pakistan.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

How cool would that be?

[Robert Arrington]

That would be amazing.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

That would be, that would be national news around. That would be global news.

[Robert Arrington]

And then people would have an opportunity to hunt it in its natural. Yeah, it works for everybody.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Shit. It would be brilliant.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes. And swamp deer. Well, these two.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

I know you, you probably know this, which is a tragedy that the Australian government is shooting them out of the.

[Robert Arrington]

Helicopters, culling them because there's so many. They've got, they've got the habitat. They have areas where there are no people.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Robert Arrington]

And they've got enough to feed them. So there's forests. That's what happens when.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We should do this. Well, we should do this.

[Robert Arrington]

I'm ready I'm ready whenever you are.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We should go to Australia. Yeah. We can either figure out who we need to talk to.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And we need to get all the permits. And we. We catch 36 animals and we fly them to Pakistan.

[Robert Arrington]

You forget.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What am I forgetting?

[Robert Arrington]

The cost.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We'll go find the money.

[Robert Arrington]

Okay, I'm ready to do that.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

What do we think? What do we think? Quarter of a million.

[Robert Arrington]

I have no idea how much it would cost to bring them in.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We've got the areas, I think quarter of a million. Yeah. All we have to do is find a big, like, cargo buffalo plane.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Like they're moving the cheetahs, right?

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

From Namibia to India.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We get a big buffalo plane.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

We're causing trouble here. We get a big buffalo plane and they fly directly from Australia right into Pakistan.

[Robert Arrington]

We've got.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

And we march them out onto the. Onto the Runway. That all the politicians are going to want to be there.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Everybody would want to have bring Pakistan animals back home.

[Robert Arrington]

Yes. Let's do it.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Holy shit.

[Robert Arrington]

I'm ready if you are, dude.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

That's the kind of stuff I want to do.

[Robert Arrington]

Okay, let's make a plan.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

All right, man. Well, look, man, I think a lot of people don't really understand Pakistan. They see Pakistan. I'll ask this. Let me ask. Let me finish this podcast with this question. A lot of people hear Pakistan and they hear what you're saying, but they're like, I'm not going there. It's the most dangerous place in the world. I'm not going there.

[Robert Arrington]

They need to talk to a couple of hunters that I've had. They land at the airport. Next day, they're screaming and shouting, calling their friends and saying people have been lying to us about Pakistan. It's not like that. It's a great country, really. I have couples come in and I'll.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Be honest, I'm worried.

[Robert Arrington]

No, you should talk to Ricardo and Britt. Brett came with Ricardo. You should talk to.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

One of. My cameraman has been Jack Bottoms.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. So what did he say?

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Same what you said.

[Robert Arrington]

Yeah. So it's a big misconception, I think.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

But you guys provide security and all that kind of stuff. It's not like you just.

[Robert Arrington]

I don't have to provide security because there is no threat.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Huh.

[Robert Arrington]

I don't. When a client comes, I don't have anybody with a weapon accompanying us. There are no guards. You don't need it.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

You don't have those big police escorts through those cities and stuff like that. Only in Quetta Okay.

[Robert Arrington]

Because it's a six hour drive. Close the Afghan border. Otherwise, no, you don't need anybody. It's a. In our country, the tradition is that if I go to a friend's house and he says, oh, and you're coming to my area, I'll give you a guard. It's like prestige.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Gotcha.

[Robert Arrington]

Frankly speaking, if somebody wants to do something, no guard is going to be able to stop them. Whether it's in the, in the States or whether it's in Pakistan. Yeah, it's a safe place. So many hunters come, they go every, every year. Right. No need to worry at all. Where there is need in Quetta, you get escort, armed escort. But that also is just a formality.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. Man was the limit. It's a pleasure to meet you. Next time I see you, we're going to be moving sambal from Australia to Pakistan.

[Robert Arrington]

Pleasure to meet you. And it's great what you're doing, amazing stuff. Thank you very much.

[Salim Ahmed Khan]

Appreciate you, boss. All right, well, that's it for today. Appreciate you listening as always. Leave a review, share it with your friends and most importantly, do what's right to convey the truth around hunting.

[Robert Arrington]

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