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Episode 570 - North American Pronghorn Foundation || A New Nonprofit
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Robbie sits down with some of the board members of the newly birthed North American Pronghorn Foundation, one of the newest nonprofits in the conservation space! America is the bastion of species-specific foundations like this that dive deep into the conservation of one or another much loved and iconic species from Ducks Unlimited to NWTF to all the deer foundations and beyond - but with 14 states with pronghorn populations and only two with positive increases in those populations - this group couldn’t have come at a more important time.
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Shipping midway USA.com Dean Cribbs, Colin Fountain and Brock Wall Brock Wall wasn't on the podcast Today are board members of one of the newest nonprofits in the conservation space in the United States of America, and it's the North American Pronghorn Foundation. America is the bastion of species specific nonprofits. Got Ducks Unlimited, National Wild Turkey, Mule Deer, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation. I can go on and on and on, but for some reason Pronghorn has not really attracted the attention of anybody until now. So this podcast is really introducing you to the North American Pronghorn Foundation. You'll hear from Dean and Colin, why they're starting it, what they're going to do, and if you're interested, buy a membership. Support them 35 bucks a year. You will know and you'll hear. And if you if you want to read a little bit more about about this, Andrew McKean wrote a phenomenal article on outdoor life introducing everybody to the North American Pronghorn foundation, and in that article there is a map that shows pronghorn numbers by state. I won't go through it all. I go through it all on the podcast. But I'll say this. Of the 12 states or 14 states that have pronghorn, only two have positive increases in their population. Everybody else is in a downfall from 4% down to North Dakota's 37% decrease in pronghorn numbers. So that's really the reason for why the North American Pronghorn foundation was started. Enjoy. So there's a reason why I started Blood Origins, and that reason is simple, is that I wanted to convey the truth about hunting. It brings awareness to non hunters that it's more than just killing animals. How do I start it, Brittany? My name.
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Dean Krebs
Does my hair look okay?
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Mike Axelrod
My name is Mike Axelrod. Start again. Yeah, I hated it too. Braxton, you said something in the car to me. You said that you were living on borrowed time. There's a perception around who hunters are, what we're supposed to be. And a feminist that works for a nonprofit that is a hunter that has only eaten wild game for the last 20 years is likely not the thing that people think about when it comes to hunter. So it's, it's interesting. You know, obviously Blood Origins actually under a new name as of a couple of weeks ago, the Origins Foundation. You know, we're a nonprofit. We started a nonprofit five years ago. And it's very rare, especially in America, to have a new nonprofit come on scene that is species specific because literally America is the king of species specific nonprofits. So Dean, I'll turn it over to you, you guys, and you guys can introduce yourselves right away. You guys have formed the north, is it the North American Antelope Foundation.
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Dean Krebs
Pronghorn Foundation.
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Mike Axelrod
Sorry. Obviously we're going to get into semantics. You know, you've got a South African trying to explain what an antelope slash pronghorn is here. And Colin's giving me this, like, he's already like messed it up. But that's okay. That's the point of this podcast. So Dean, tell me about, introduce yourself first. And then you have started this thing, this, this new nonprofit foundation. So.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, so Dean Krebs, and I'm from Alexandria, Minnesota, and very big pronghorn capital of the world. Yeah, we're only probably, oh, I don't know, 700 miles from the nearest, no, not that much. Probably 400 miles from the nearest pronghorn. So not near pronghorn. But I love hunting pronghorn and I, and I've brought up my kids hunting pronghorn. And so Brock Wall threw out an idea and on Hunt Talk, and I jumped on it and said, hey, this sounds like a great idea because pronghorn do not have a species specific non profit that's dedicated to them. And there's some big differences between pronghorns needs and the needs of other animals out there. And there's certainly some overlap as well. And we can talk about those a little, a little bit. But that's really why I joined, joined this thing and tried to get this thing off the ground. I've, I've had, I had a number, I'M on a number of boards right now and, and when this one came up, I was like, I don't have much time. But you know, it just, it's a good opportunity to get in on something and really develop something that I feel strongly about. And, and the pronghorn need help. So whatever we can do as a foundation to, you know, help pronghorn across their, their area, we're all in.
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Mike Axelrod
And Colin, you're from my neck of the woods. We could have done this in person. And you're also in a, in a pronghorn stronghold of the world. Memphis, Tennessee.
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Colin Fountain
That's, that's right. You know, growing up here in Memphis, you dream about the west and playing cowboys and Indians. It's just a special thing. And pronghorn, I've always been an animal that I was interested in, but growing up here in Memphis, there's obviously not any pronghorn anywhere nearby. Was lucky enough to start with a company out of college that I traveled a lot all across the US and spent a good bit of time traveling in Montana and other western states and made some friends out there that invited me to come pronghorn hunting and really fell in love from there. And I've been on several trips since then. And just traveling out there, seeing them is so awesome. And any way that we can help enhance their numbers and habitats, I'm all for.
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Mike Axelrod
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, unfortunately the point situation out west, it takes more and more points every year. The point creep is a very real thing. And you know what, what we're trying to do as an organization, we're trying to make the pie bigger. Right. So how do we get the, the more people to get licenses? Well, if we have more animals on the ground, the state wildlife agencies, they can give out more permits. And so, you know, that's certainly not the primary reason that we're doing this, but certainly something that we think about and we want to make that piece of pie bigger. We have more animals on the ground.
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Mike Axelrod
Is that the whole point is that the, is that the mission of the organization, Colin, is more antelope on the ground?
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Colin Fountain
More antelope and enhancing their, we want to enhance their populations and their habitat just to keep their legacy going, you.
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Dean Krebs
Know, and, and make it sustainable so pronghorn populations can ebb and flow with the weather. And so we saw a major weather event in the winter of 2223 in northwestern Colorado, southeastern Wyoming that killed upwards of 80% of some of the pronghorns. So we have to be careful that we don't measure our success purely on antelope numbers because a weather event like that comes along and you can say, well, geez, you know, you started this foundation and all of a sudden the antelope numbers are in the tape. Well, that's not necessarily the case. You know, we also want to measure what have we done in terms of habitat, in terms of fencing, in terms of science based studies to try and help this population along.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah, I don't know, you, you might know this already, but we Blood Origins just invested, gosh, I think about with, with the help of the Dallas safari Club or DSC foundation, we just invested about 35,000 US, 35 to 40,000 US into a pronghorn connectivity study between Alberta, Montana and British Columbia, I believe. Okay, great.
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Dean Krebs
Awesome.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah, so we're very familiar with pronghorn. So who is obviously it is right now at its very nascent state. You guys have, have applied for your 501c3 status. You've got it or it's, it's still in the process.
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Dean Krebs
Believe we're still in the process, Colin, is that correct?
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Colin Fountain
Yeah, that's correct. We're in the final steps of that process right now.
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Dean Krebs
You know, that's one of the things that we could touch on a little bit is that we started over a year ago, I believe, and the amount of work and the amount of paperwork that it takes to do it and do it right is mind boggling. And I think everybody wishes that we could have started in two or three months. Later our paperwork was done and we're doing projects and, you know, we're funding stuff and it just doesn't work that way. And so there are so many different pieces of paperwork that got to be filled out and submitted and approved and, and you know, it just takes a lot of time. And the one thing we want to do as a foundation, we're not cutting any corners anywhere. Doing everything professionally for long term success, it's sustainable and, and so that just takes a lot of time.
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Mike Axelrod
You're absolutely correct. And I think that, that I appreciate you saying that. I think everyone really, you know, doesn't really understand what it takes and the decision making process. When you say, okay, I'm going to become a charity, I'm going To become a 501C3, the amount of work that needs to happen to get that over the finish line is. It's a little daunting because again, there's also these legal ramifications of what you're doing and how you're doing it. And if you don't do it right, she's.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, absolutely. It really surprised me. I think it's. I don't know, Colin, if it surprised you how long it took as well, but, you know, just getting, just getting your house in order so that you can, you know, have your bylaws, I mean, the bylaws takes a long time. You got to go through, you got to find a template and you got to go through it and the board of directors go through it and hey, how about this? And hey, how about that? And someone has a little different opinion and so you got to talk it out. And you know, it just, it just takes time. But it was a good process. I mean, I think we all, you know, worked. It worked really well, the process we used. And in the end, I think everything is going very well. But it did take time.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah. Colin, how many people on the board?
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Colin Fountain
I think there's about 10 of us.
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Mike Axelrod
On the board from all over the United States. It sounds like Dean from Minnesota, you from Tennessee, predominantly from the Western U.S.
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Colin Fountain
But there are a couple outlaws like myself and Dean.
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Mike Axelrod
Did you say outlaws or outliers? Outliers, yeah. So let me ask this question. I guess maybe a better for folks saying, you know, listening to this, has there been a measurable decrease in pronghorn populations? I know we talked about the winter storm that did knock down a population, but that happens. That's just biological, right? This is part of the system. Has there been noticeable trends down, or is it just this constant issue that we're dealing with of increased interest in hunting in the west, which means lower opportunity for people to hunt at large?
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Colin Fountain
I think looking back the last 10 to 15 years, across the entire west, the population has been down. Um, I know tags have been cut in Wyoming due to that severe storm in 22:23. There was also a severe storm back in, I think, 2016 that knocked the herd back. So that's something that we're always going to deal with is weather concerns and issues like that. But as human population expands and grows and more people are moving west, that's interfering with migration corridors and encroaching on their habitat. And there's a lot of different issues that are facing pronghorn, and we're trying to do our best just to take those head on and do what we can to mitigate the population decreases.
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Dean Krebs
I think one of the things also is the degradation of habitat and the loss of the sage brush steppe ecosystems. And when you lose habitat, you're going to lose animals on the ground. So that's definitely right in our bullseye of what we want to address and, and, you know, open up areas that are not accessible to pronghorn if we can, and enhance what's there if we can't.
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Mike Axelrod
So what, what do you think? Because, you know, the flux of, obviously the population is something you can't. You can't really change. But what is. You're absolutely right. I think it happens regardless of whether, you know, put pronghorn. We're talking about pronghorn right now, but it could be substituted for elephants, it could be substituted for roe deer, it could be substituted for whatever animal. And that today's world is not a sea of habitat anymore with islands of humanity. It's really an island. It's a sea of humans now with these pockets of habitat that we're trying to protect and we're trying to connect with other pockets of habitat. So if you had to look into a crystal ball, what are the kinds of projects that you guys, or maybe you guys have already got a list of projects that you like, hey, this is what we are going to focus on and this is what we're going to do.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, we've got, we've got a list of some things we're starting to do. The one thing that is unique to pronghorns that we should touch on is they do not like to jump fences. And they have all the ability in the world to jump fences, but they don't like to do it. They like to go under fences. And so fencing can be a very big problem for pronghorn. Now, if you grew up with deer in deer country, a fence doesn't slow down a whitetail deer or mule deer or an elk or anything like that. I mean, it's just, it's barely a hindrance to them. They hop right over and away they go. It's not true for pronghorn. Matter of fact, there's a film that was just released, short film by the Wyoming Migration Initiative, called Unwired. And if you haven't seen that, it's a fantastic film. Talking about the fencing issue. And they've got radio collar studies that show antelope, if they run right up to the fence and then they go back and forth, they don't want to cross it or they can't cross it for whatever reason. And I'll tell you, I'll take a little aside here. I'll tell you a good little story. So first time I ever go out elk hunting, I bring my 12 year old daughter out and she's asking me, plying me with all different types of questions about, about pronghorn and, you know, what they do and what they like to eat and all this different stuff. And. And I said, well, they don't like to, they don't like to jump fences. Well, she grew up in whitetail country. It didn't make much sense to her. And I'm like, no, really, they don't. She thought I was kidding. Like, I'm like, no, really, they don't like to. They don't like to jump a fence. They just very, very, very rare. And we're driving down the road as we're hunting and she's asking me this and all of a sudden we look and here comes a buck pronghorn running towards the road. And I'm like, oh, this is perfect. And I'm having to look like I'm gonna look so smart to my daughter. That buck pronghorn runs up to the fence, hops the fence through the ditch, over the road, through the ditch, hops the other fence and away it goes. And my daughter gives me that sideways look like, oh, dad, I'm not gonna.
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Mike Axelrod
Believe anything else that you say.
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Dean Krebs
But yeah, so that was, that was kind of interesting. It's, it's pretty rare to see in jump offense. So they have different needs. Another project where we were looking at was potentially, you know, some of the quality of the native grasses that are out in the west have degraded to the point where, you know, do we didn't do we need to do some enhancement of the grasses. And so looking at that type of stuff, there's some radio collar stuff out there. You know. Another unique trait to pronghorn is that their, their hair falls out very easy. I don't know if you haven't ever seen that like a whitetail. You could grab a whitetail by the fur and roll it over. Well, the first time I did that, I ended up with two handfuls of, of hair in my hand. And so what when you. That's a unique trait. It comes out easy. And what if you put a radio collar on it like we see with mule deer or with whitetail or elk, whatever. It doesn't faze them at all. I've seen pictures of pronghorn that are basically hairless from their ears down to their shoulders because the collar has rubbed all the hair off. So they have different needs. So. And I know there's a group out there that's looking at ear tags, solar powered ear tags. Can that get us the right information? So that might be the right better suited for, for pronghorn. Colin, you got anything to add for our projects?
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Mike Axelrod
You would think that the biggest projects for you guys could be, well, one habitat restoration. You know, I know probably juniper removal or as you said, increasing of this, of the, the step and sagebrush ecosystems. But the other one would be probably, you know, you may get into the whole like land acquisition easement business in terms of protecting habitat.
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Dean Krebs
Colin?
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Colin Fountain
Yeah, no, I think you're spot on there. And it's just a unique situation with them. Did ask other projects that we're working on. There's a couple other projects that we have been discussing as a board with wild horses in a couple different states.
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Mike Axelrod
Oh, don't get me started on wild horses. We're getting involved in documentaries on wild horses in Arizona and potentially Nevada and just trying to tell the truth about what wild horses are doing on the landscape from an ecological decimation perspective.
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Dean Krebs
Absolutely. Very detrimental effects on the native animals of which pronghorn are very much affected by wild horse and burrosia.
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Mike Axelrod
So you were talking, you gave us a story about a fence. I assume fence removal projects are going to be pretty much up your bailiwick.
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Colin Fountain
Absolutely.
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Dean Krebs
Or rewiring. So not necessarily removal, but you know, they like to go under the, under the bottom wire, so remove. So putting non barbed bottom wire fencing is certainly something. And then the spacing, moving that bottom wire up a little bit and then they can, they can get under the fence safely and, and so not necessarily removal. I mean, we obviously want to work with landowners and ranchers and they have fences for cattle or whatnot. Absolutely. Work with them and, and you know, figure out a way that's, that's amenable to both pronghorn and their livestock.
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Mike Axelrod
Great, great. What about, are there existing pronghorn organizations in the West? Because I want to say that I've seen one in Arizona maybe or New Mexico that was like a local, I don't know, state wide, like Pronghorn foundation or something, right?
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, I think there's a, there's a couple out there at the state level. There's nothing out there at the federal level or the, or area wide that covers all the states. And, and obviously that's something that we've talked about as a board too. The needs of a pronghorn in Arizona are different than the needs of a pronghorn in Montana. You know, Arizona may not get the type of, of winter weather that the, the northern area does. So you know, we, we need, we're cognizant of that and you know, we need to, to make sure that we're addressing pronghorn across their range and it's just going to be very, very varied needs.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah, I see the Arizona Antelope foundation, that's the only one I, I very much remember. They just, they, they do almost like, you know, very, very similar obviously work to you guys, habitat and herd recovery efforts, they do raffles to raise money, that kind of stuff, so. Well, you guys got a really cool write up in the Outdoor Life by Good old Andrew McQueen. Yep, that was very cool.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, that was kind of right at our launch, which was April 21. And so people can now go and we really seen a bump to our, our membership due to that article and the associated social media that it was on. But yeah, people can now go to pronghornsplural.org and, and sign up for a membership. We've got some hats and T shirts and that type of stuff there and we've got some Information about what we're doing and how we're doing it and the people involved and all that type of stuff.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah. So I'm looking at a map on that article, and that shows what we were talking about in terms of the number across the board. So Texas minus 4% down. Oklahoma, minus 26. New Mexico, minus 30%. Colorado, minus 26. Utah, minus 4. Wyoming, minus 22. Nebraska, minus 20. South Dakota, minus 6. North Dakota, where Brock's from, minus 37. The highest number across the board, happening in North Dakota, minus 18% in Montana. Only two states, Washington and Nevada, increasing their numbers across the border. Alberta and Saskatchewan. Sorry, that's it. Alberta and Saskatchewan. Montana. That's the pronghorn project. I'd said bec earlier, it was actually Saskatchewan. They're minus 10 and minus 10%, respectively. So, yeah, definitely need somebody, some organization to step up and do something.
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Dean Krebs
Yes. And, you know, the reason is they're so fun to watch. You know, if you're a. If you're a wildlife watcher. They don't, you know, another unique trait. They don't disappear during the daytime. They're very viewable, typically during daylight hours. They're.
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Mike Axelrod
They're.
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Dean Krebs
They don't dive into the deep timber and disappear so people can go out and watch them. They're so fun to hunt. They're, you know, they're great for new hunters, kids, because you can go out there and you find them and you put a stock on them and you goof it up. And then you go find another one and you stock that one and you goof it up, and you keep doing that until eventually you don't. They are extremely good eating. So we've had some taste tests in my house that we put antelope, elk, mule deer, whitetail, and beef. That was our. That was our taste test. And antelope and elk came out tied at number one. Sometimes they get a little bit of a bad rap. And I really think that's because of two reasons. One, I mentioned earlier that the hair comes out really easy. And if you get in there in that sage brush, and so their hair is very pungent, I guess would be the right word. And it gets on the meat. And now you have some meat that is. That has been tainted with that sagebrush taste. And. And so people might not like that. The other thing is, is that typically, many times you're hunting them, it's pretty warm. And so meat care is so important to get that meat cooled down. But if you took the best beef in the world and you put it at 95 degrees and kept the hide on and drove around in your truck for three days. It probably wouldn't taste real good either.
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Mike Axelrod
Yep, yep. Agreed. So tell me about it. Seems like that article. It did note that there was another conservation group called exactly the same thing. Do we know who they are? Because I'm always very cognizant of. And in the beginning of Blood Origins, Blood Origins wasn't actually called Blood Origins. We were called something else. And we changed our name right then and there because of somebody else in the space that potentially could overlap with us or we be confused with them or we could be associated with them if they did something essentially a little silly. And you got wrapped up in the whole legal political drama of it.
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Colin Fountain
Yeah, absolutely. It's not a group that I'm really familiar with. I think it's been a good bit of time since they started their organization and they kind of went away.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, they're defunct now and have been for years. So they're not. They're not doing anything.
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Mike Axelrod
Okay. And we're confident that that is the case. They're not going to raise their head up and go, oh, hey, that's our name and we want it back.
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Dean Krebs
Yep, yep. Brock reached out to, I think, somebody that he could. That was involved at one point in time.
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Mike Axelrod
Oh, good, good. Yeah. Oh, excellent. So if people want more information on the North American Pronghorn foundation, not Antler foundation, where can they find more information of that?
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Dean Krebs
Pronghorns.org and that's plural.
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Mike Axelrod
Oh, that is a cool freaking web handle, man. That was very clever to get that. Pronghorns.org that's good.
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Dean Krebs
Yes. And the best part was it was free. Some of the other ones that. Well, I think it cost us ten dollars or something.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah, ten bucks. Ten bucks to go, daddy. Or something like that.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, yeah. So some of the other ones that we looked at were not free and then came up with the idea of put an S on the end of that prong horns. And. And. Oh, geez, that's free. Bingo.
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Mike Axelrod
Done. Exactly. Very cool. Okay. And so how can people join? What is the. Is a membership set up. What's the. What does that look like, Colin?
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Colin Fountain
Yeah, we've got some membership opportunities, so you can go onto our website, join. We've got some merchandise for sale. We've got a blog that has some updates on what's going on. We're going to have a newsletter that kind of gives a periodical update of different things we're working on and initiatives that were putting Forth.
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Mike Axelrod
So on the website it says your life membership coming soon. Sold out. Did you sell out of life members already?
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Dean Krebs
No, no, no, no. It's. It's still coming soon. So there's two. Two different memberships levels right now. You got your standard membership and then your sponsor membership. We, you know, back to how much work it is to get this, get it up and going, we had to punt a little bit on our life member and life membership level. And just to determine how we're going to handle that, there are some considerations with a life membership level different than the other membership levels. So we got to put some more thought into that. And, and, but we wanted to get rolling right away and, and get out there, and we didn't want that to hang us up.
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Mike Axelrod
Yeah, a hundred percent. One hundred percent. Well, cool. If anybody's interested, go to Prong Horns. You can go to the join page. There's also donate button, obviously, as you can make donations, and then you can buy some. There's some hats and some T shirts as well as a sticker pack. And obviously you can become an annual member at 35 bucks a year or an annual sponsorship membership at 250 bucks a year. Final words, Dean.
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Dean Krebs
You know, for people listening, you know, do a little research into pronghorns. If you don't know much about them, they're. They're really neat animals. They're unique to North America. Their closest relative is the giraffe. Ironically, they are not antelope. They are pronghorn. Antelope is something everybody calls them. I do it myself. Probably did it half a dozen times on this.
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Mike Axelrod
I did it in the beginning of this podcast and got absolutely told. Note.
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Dean Krebs
Yeah, exactly. But we all do it. I mean, it is what it is. But they are pronghorn. Very unique. Go to our website, check us out, see what, what we're all about, and keep tabs on what we're doing. And we're trying to build this thing, so a little bit of patience is needed because we are starting. We're all volunteers. Nobody paid for anything on this. So, you know, we're. We're trying to build this thing for the long term. So we're gonna, we're gonna do it, do it right and, and have a lot of fun doing it. I mean, it is kind of fun to be on the, on the beginning level of this thing and build something from scratch. And we've got a lot of help from a lot of people. Thank you so much for having us on here and getting the word out to your audience and hopefully they learn just a little bit about us and about pronghorn today. And we'll follow up on that.
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Mike Axelrod
Absolutely, Colin.
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Colin Fountain
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for having us on and letting us use your platform to try to springboard us and to getting us started up from from nothing really.
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Mike Axelrod
Too easy. Too easy. Our pleasure. And As I said, pronghorns.org go check them out, get an annual membership, help them out. And yeah, one day. One day I'm gonna hunt a pronghorn. Not an antelope, a pronghorn. And it'll be good stuff.
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Dean Krebs
Thanks boys. Thank you.
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Colin Fountain
Thank you.
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Mike Axelrod
Well, that's it for today. I appreciate you listening. As always, leave a review, share it with your friends, and most importantly, do what's right to convey the truth around.
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