Bloomberg Business of Sports

Super Bowl LX Radio Row Interviews: Day One

Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Vanessa Perdomo (with Michael Barr, Damian Sassower)
Featured Guests: Michael Irvin, Terrell Owens, Ja’Marr Chase & T. Higgins, Kyle Rudolph

Episode Overview

This special Super Bowl 60 (LX) episode brings real-time, in-depth conversations from San Francisco’s Radio Row. Host Vanessa Perdomo sits down with NFL legends and current stars to explore the intersection of sports, business, and personal growth. Key topics include player ventures off the field, the booming global footprint of football, the business and pitfalls of youth sports, and the unique paths players are carving in media and entrepreneurship.

Key Segments & Takeaways

1. Michael Irvin – From GridIron to Storytelling & Betting Partnerships

Segment: [01:12] – [14:46]

Highlights & Discussion Points:

• Cowboys’ Path Forward ([02:35]):

  • Irvin emphasizes the team’s need to blend stronger defense with its offense, specifically with the new defensive coordinator and signing George Pickens.
  • Quote: “You got the tools now to put a defense together, and let’s see what happens.” (Michael Irvin, [03:00])

• Playmaker Productions – New Ventures in Storytelling ([04:05]):

  • Irvin’s production company aims to tell empowering and underrepresented stories—focusing on “real heroes” like single mothers and first responders.
  • Brings a deeply motivational and faith-tinged perspective:
    • Quote: “The more we tell stories and tell the things that are going on in our lives, the more we can recognize the God in our lives...the more we help each other. That’s the whole idea.” (Michael Irvin, [04:39])
  • Wants to use sports as a cultural connector, transcending politics and division.

• Netflix Show “The White House” ([06:53]):

  • Discusses reclaiming the controversial legacy of the Cowboys’ “White House,” once a symbol of scandal, now reframed for deeper storytelling.
  • Uses the “Situation Room” as a platform for athletes’ personal narratives.
  • Quote: “You share stories to help people. We watch games to help ourselves.” (Michael Irvin, [08:42])

• Hard Rock Bet Partnership ([09:38]):

  • First time endorsing a sports betting platform post-NFL career. Notes how this was previously off-limits for NFL personnel.
  • Cites personal connection with the Hard Rock brand and its roots in Florida.

• Super Bowl LX Preview: Narrative Focus ([11:15]):

  • Praises both QBs’ journeys—either for overcoming adversity or entering greatness early.

• NFL Global Expansion ([12:26]):

  • Expresses strong support for globalizing the sport, pointing to the unique energy of international fans.
  • “They don’t leave when the game’s over—everybody’s singing...That’s the kind of stuff that brings people together.” (Michael Irvin, [13:19])
  • Dream team location: Brazil (specifically: Rio).
  • Quote, on Rio for the Pro Bowl: “They were like, boy, there’s so much trouble we get into Rio. I said, yeah, you’re right.” (Michael Irvin, [13:50])

2. Terrell Owens – Legacy Moments, Pickleball Entrepreneur, and Athlete Branding

Segment: [16:03] – [28:10]

Highlights & Discussion Points:

• San Francisco Nostalgia & ‘The Sharpie’ Moment ([16:07]):

  • Shares iconic memories from his 49ers tenure, including the impromptu Sharpie touchdown celebration.
  • Quote: “It was impromptu...I knew that on the confidence that I had in myself and my abilities, I knew that I was going to score on that on the next series going out, and surely enough I did.” (Terrell Owens, [18:00])
  • Now enjoys a partnership with Sharpie as a fun career full-circle.

• Pickleball Passion & Business ([20:27]):

  • Picked up pickleball just last year (“My own signature paddle”), now a brand ambassador and entrepreneur in the sport.
  • Provides practical advice on getting good at pickleball: “My three Ds...drives, drops and dinks.” (Terrell Owens, [23:49])
  • Reflects on camaraderie and lifestyle branding—Prototype 81’s Cross Court Essentials line.

• Youth NFL & Receiver Analysis ([25:04]):

  • Discusses current WR talent (DK Metcalf, A.J. Brown) and the need for consistency and playmaking to be a true “game changer.”
  • Quote: “There’s playmakers and there’s game changers. Right now, they’re on the cusp of being game changers.” (Terrell Owens, [26:12])

• Global Growth & Logistics ([27:11]):

  • Skeptical about team placement overseas due to travel strain—Canada feasible, Europe questionable logistically.

3. Ja’Marr Chase & T. Higgins – New Podcast, Athlete Identities & Media Ownership

Segment: [28:12] – [37:22]

Highlights & Discussion Points:

• First Pro Bowl Reflections ([28:33]):

  • Both players share excitement about Pro Bowl experience and camaraderie:
    • “I definitely had a great time...I’m blessed to even say that. Hey, I’m a Pro Bowler.” (Ja’Marr Chase, [28:33])

• Olympic Flag Football Aspirations ([29:03]):

  • Jamar teases his “number one pick” status for the potential Olympic squad, referencing the chance to be “part of history.”

• “Chasing Number One” – The Talk Show/Podcast ([29:37]):

  • Launching a podcast to show lives off the field; move beyond “just football.”
  • Motivation: personal growth, relatability, showing the “more than an athlete” reality.
  • Quote: “People only see us with our helmets on...we want people to pick our brains, not just about football.” (Ja’Marr Chase, [30:06])
  • Choosing Overtime for reach and prior relationship.

• On Learning & Ownership ([33:20]):

  • Both express desire for longevity and family legacy—using the podcast to learn, connect, and build post-career identity.

• Offseason Training & Growth ([34:22]):

  • Ja’Marr: focuses on physical health, reducing injuries.
  • T.: Always looks for new skills or routines to elevate game; emphasizes mental toughness.

• Bengals & NFL Global Expansion ([36:24]):

  • Both want the chance to play internationally—name Paris as a dream destination.
  • If they could pick a location for a team: unanimous on Spain/Barcelona.

4. Kyle Rudolph – Fixing Youth Sports, Financial Barriers, and Expanding Access

Segment: [38:05] – [50:22]

Highlights & Discussion Points:

• Youth Sports as Big Business ([38:39]):

  • Addresses how costs have soared—parents taking loans or working multiple jobs.
  • Quote: “It’s wild to think about: youth sports has become a business.” (Kyle Rudolph, [38:39])
  • Good Sports has donated $130M+ in resources to help level the field.

• Loss of Access Due to Cost ([40:31]):

  • 75% of parents have considered pulling kids out of sports due to expense.
  • Rudolph emphasizes non-pro aspects: “If none of my kids ever play pro sports, who cares? I want them to love sports as much as I did as a kid.” (Kyle Rudolph, [41:56])

• On Fixes & Education for Parents ([42:19]):

  • Acknowledges hyper-professionalization and says, realistically, it can't be reversed—but mitigation via organizations like Good Sports is vital.
  • Advocates for a parental focus on learning, fun, and growth—not chasing scholarships or contracts.

• Specialization & Injury Risks ([45:02]):

  • Warns about early sports specialization—encourages multi-sport participation to avoid injuries and burnout.

• Flag Football & Women’s Access ([46:24]):

  • Celebrates flag football’s rapid growth and inclusivity for girls, citing his own daughters’ participation.

• NFL’s International Ambitions ([47:48]):

  • Enthusiastic about global expansion—and shares personal stories about playing in the UK and Germany.
  • On international teams: “If the NFL can figure it out logistically, I wouldn’t put it past them...but the path is probably...[to] have every team play internationally at least once a year.” (Kyle Rudolph, [49:37])

Notable Quotes & Moments

• Michael Irvin on storytelling and redemption:

  “Why not take that same name that the devil meant for evil...and turn it into…a planting. You planted me and I grew something else out of it.” (on “The White House”, [07:38])

• Terrell Owens on legacy:

  “When you talk about Sharpie, you gotta think about T.O.” ([20:22])

• T. Higgins on using their podcast for authenticity:

  “It’s just more than an athlete, you know what I'm saying? You're just doing a lot.” ([30:29])

• Kyle Rudolph on the real value of youth sports:

  “The work ethic that sports instills in you is what really matters in life—not if you play for 12 years in the NFL.” ([42:09])

Timestamps of Notable Segments

| Timestamp | Key Segment/Highlights | |-------------|--------------------------------------------------| | 01:12–14:46 | Michael Irvin interview (Cowboys, business, betting, global NFL) | | 16:03–28:10 | Terrell Owens interview (49ers, legacy moments, pickleball business)| | 28:12–37:22 | Ja’Marr Chase & T. Higgins (Pro Bowl, Olympics, new podcast) | | 38:05–50:22 | Kyle Rudolph (youth sports, financial barriers, flag football) |

Tone & Style

The episode is energetic, candid, and motivational—balancing on-field bravado with off-field vulnerability. Guests openly discuss both challenges and opportunities, delivering insights in a relaxed, conversational style punctuated by humor and mutual respect. There is a strong focus on personal growth, giving back, and leveraging sports for positive change.

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