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Episode Overview

Title: Farmgirl Flowers CEO on the Challenges of Bootstrapping
Date: November 19, 2025
Hosts: Carol Massar & Tim Stenovec
Guest: Christina Stembel, Founder & CEO of Farmgirl Flowers

Main Theme:
This episode dives into the journey of Christina Stembel, who, starting from her San Francisco apartment in 2010, bootstrapped Farmgirl Flowers into a $35 million business. Christina discusses the unique challenges of growing a business without outside funding, lessons learned from rapid expansion, the importance of profit over revenue, the impacts of tariffs and labor shortages, and her perspective on the current consumer landscape.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Growth, Profitability, and the “Too Fast” Trap

• Christina reflects on Farmgirl Flowers’ 15-year journey—from rapid scaling to an intentional slowdown, focusing on profitability over revenue.
  • “It's the first year that we're actually seeing any growth since 2020, but very small couple points, and that's very intentional. We're really focused on the bottom line.” (Christina, 02:50)
• In 2019, the company hit $34M in revenue but only $36,000 in profit—an eye-opener that led her to rethink priorities.
  • “2019, we did 34 million in revenue, and I did 36,000 in profit, and I paid myself $60,000. Like, this is not a success story.” (Christina, 04:13)

2. Lessons Learned After 15 Years

• Christina shares self-awareness and honesty about entrepreneurial ego and the façade of Silicon Valley success.
  • “When I started, I wanted that founder story ... It was like all my ego. I finally realized it was my ego.” (Christina, 04:05)
• The real founder journey is far less glamorous than glossy magazine profiles suggest.
  • “Everything I thought the business world was isn't. Like all these glossy pictures of people that made it ... I'm like, yeah, it was like a fire sale most of the time.” (Christina, 04:35)

3. Building to Sell vs. Building to Keep

• Christina candidly discusses her initial intention to build and sell, and the pivot after an underwhelming acquisition offer.
  • “I built this to sell ... then we got an offer from one of our big competitors ... it was a horrible offer. And so now I'm building to keep, and building to sell. And it's a completely different thing.” (Christina, 05:35–06:00)

4. The Power and Tradeoffs of Bootstrapping

• Christina highlights how not taking outside investment gave her autonomy and long-term strategic flexibility.
  • “I don't go into every board meeting being worried I'm going to be fired right now. Because you're the boss. ... We bought a farm. Nobody, no investors would ever let you buy a farm.” (Christina, 06:09)
• Vertical integration—buying a farm to control more of the supply chain and manage tariff implications.
  • “We bought the farm because we're like, let's do this ... we do think long term, this vertical integration will allow us to keep a couple million dollars more in our pockets every year.” (Christina, 06:44–07:07)

5. The Realities of Flower Sourcing, Tariffs, and Labor

• U.S. flower farming is in decline: not enough supply, sky-high labor costs, and few American workers willing to do the work.
  • “When we started, I only bought American grown flowers. ... We ran out of flowers in 2017 ... Now there's fewer farms than there were in 2017 because labor's so high now with immigration issues.” (Christina, 09:07)
  • "There are not people here that are wanting to be farm workers. Let me just say." (Christina, 09:30)
• Tariffs and trade policy directly affect costs, design choices, and ultimately the consumer.
  • “Tariffs ... actually hurt the consumers more ... we raise prices ... or we have to buy off the shelf instead of making custom things ... we have to make concessions because we don't want to price ourselves out of the market.” (Christina, 08:44)

6. Immigration and the Supply Chain

• Christina is forthright on the role of immigration:
  • "We're not going to bring farming back to this country unless we do something about immigration. There are too many ripple effects going on with why it won't work." (Christina, 09:57)
• Roughly 50% of Farmgirl Flowers' bouquets are made in the U.S., but much of the raw product must come from abroad (especially South America).

7. The American Consumer and a “K-Shaped” Economy

• The demand for bouquets is bifurcated—affluent consumers keep spending, while many cut gifts due to economic pressures.
  • "It's not the company I want to be where I'm only appealing to one type of consumer ... I don't want every bouquet to cost $150 ... so we're looking at something." (Christina, 11:18–11:40)
• Farmgirl is innovating on shipping and operational cost structure to keep bouquets accessible.

8. Products and Seasonality: Wreaths and Thanksgiving

• Christina shares excitement (and constraints) over their popular wreath-making program:
  • "They're high labor. ... We work with small farms on our wreath-making program. So very proud of that and trying to get more for us." (Christina, 12:10–12:20)

9. Outlook and Closing Words

• Christina’s assessment of the business and broader environment is frank but optimistic.
  • "If you had to do a word to describe the outlook, how do you see it right now?" — Host (12:32)
  • “Two words: bleak but hopeful.” (Christina, 12:42)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Ego and Growth:
  “I finally figured out that, like, everything I thought the business world was isn't ... all these people I wanted to be, that girl bosses that made it ... they don't own their companies anymore.” (Christina, 04:13–05:00)
• On Building Autonomously:
  “Nobody, no investors would ever let you buy a farm. We ... are farming now. That's a long term goal.” (Christina, 06:09–06:20)
• On Structural Challenges:
  “Having production facilities of making bouquets in the United States. We do ... but the flowers are coming from South America.” (Christina, 10:23)
• Candid Market Perspective:
  “Two words: bleak but hopeful.” (Christina, 12:42)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:10] — Christina Stembel joins, reflects on profitability focus in 2025
• [03:49] — 15 years in, key lessons & the pitfalls of fast growth
• [05:35] — Building to sell vs. building to keep
• [06:09] — The autonomy of bootstrapping, buying a farm
• [07:07] — U.S. flower supply chain issues
• [08:44] — Tariffs and their effects on consumers
• [09:57] — Immigration & agricultural labor crisis
• [11:04] — How today’s economic climate affects consumers & Farmgirl’s pricing strategy
• [12:10] — Wreath-making and supply constraints
• [12:42] — “Bleak but hopeful”: Christina’s two-word outlook

Tone & Language

Christina speaks candidly—with humility, humor, and the unvarnished realism of a founder who’s seen both press hype and practical hardship, often debunking myths about entrepreneurship and growth. The hosts maintain a conversational tone, asking questions rooted in concern for business and consumer realities.

For listeners interested in startup life, the realities behind “success stories,” or hard-won insights in running and scaling a modern business, this episode offers a trove of actionable lessons and honest perspective from a trailblazing founder who’s still thriving—on her own terms.