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Senator Mike Rounds
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Journalists and analysts around the world. World I'm Joe Matthew alongside Kriti Gupta in Washington where we come to you with breaking news this evening. Conservative activist Charlie Kirk has been confirmed dead by the President of the United States. President Trump's posting quote, the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead, unquote.
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Bloomberg Analyst Maura Gillespie
Kirk was speaking at Utah Valley University when he was shot on stage. Prominent Republican Jason Chaffet saying he only heard a single shot ring out. The shot that presumably struck and according to the President, killed Kirk moments before the president confirmed his death. House Speaker Mike Johnson said this from Capitol Hill.
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Senator Mike Rounds
This is detestable what's happened. Political violence has become all too common in American society and this is not who we are. It violates the core principles of our country, our Judeo Christian heritage, our civil society, our American way of life, and it must stop. We need every political figure, we need everyone who has a platform to say this loudly and clearly. We can settle disagreements, disputes in a civil manner and political violence must be called out. And it has to stop.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
This is a fast moving story and we have our reporters covering it with much more tonight. Bloomberg's Kate Sullivan joins us from the White House. And Bloomberg's Mike Shepard is with us here in our Washington bureau. Shep, let's start with you right now as someone who's covered politics for a long time around here and the element of political violence that has crept back into our culture over the past couple of years, something hard to ignore with regard to this young man, someone who started a movement as a teenager, helped to lift Donald Trump into the White House. What do we make of this latest turn?
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Bloomberg Analyst Mike Shepard
Well, this is Joe, as you pointed out, really does point to this fear many have had about an increase in political violence. We've seen the rhetoric over the past decade or so really intensify and an edge creep into the conversation when it comes to, you know, the core cultural and political and social and policy issues that surround daily life in the US and we've seen flashes of this violence, violence actually manifest itself, of course, more than a year ago. Then candidate Donald Trump himself was the target of two assassination attempts. The one, of course, in Butler, Pennsylvania, that was so high profile when he emerged to say, fight, fight, fight. But then more recently in June of this year, we saw two Democratic lawmakers in Minnesota who were targeted in their homes at night by a gunman who was politically motivated, according to authorities there. So this is the kind of incident that st the concern that the rhetoric and the intensified back and forth between the various and quite divided sides here in this country can spill over into violence. And that's something that we just heard the House speaker address moments ago.
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Bloomberg Analyst Maura Gillespie
Mike, I think I'm going to ask you the question that a lot of people around the country are asking, which is is there a policy response and policy fallout that we can expect off the back of this?
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Bloomberg Analyst Mike Shepard
Well, for the immediate moment, there will be calls for prayer for Charlie Kirk and for his family in the wake of this terrible incident and calls from both sides really to step back from the brink of violence, but then the actual policy steps, that always gets more tricky. And sad to say, in many respects, it is to be expected that each side will fall back on the norm, with Democrats perhaps urging control of firearms and access to firearms, and Republicans, you know, pointing to questions about extremism on the left. And so when it comes to a policy prescription emerging from this, or from, for example, the incident in Minnesota just weeks ago, the school shooting at a Catholic school in Minnesota, it is more of the same that we're likely to hear on this. And really, the whole issue, Kristie, is the question of political rhetoric and people now willing to take that next step and, and follow on their worst instincts and urges as we have seen fomented and promoted on social media for, for several years now.
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Bloomberg Analyst Maura Gillespie
Bloomberg's Mike Shepard, we thank you so much for bringing us up to speed. I want to go to Kate Sullivan, who's at the White House for us. Kate, just bring us up to speed on the reaction where you are.
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So we're seeing an outpouring of messages of prayer and condolences from across the White House and the broader. If the president called Charlie Kirk legendary, he said nobody understood or had the heart of the youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. Charlie Kirk was a fixture on the campaign trail. I saw him at countless events across many different battleground states when I was covering the Trump campaign last year. The president has credited him with really boosting his voter, his turnout among young people and getting young people excited about his campaign. You know, he founded Charlie Kirk, founded Turning Point usa, which specifically advocates for conservative politics on high school and college campuses. So we saw Charlie Kirk host many, many events across college campuses, particularly during the campaign season. You know, before news came out that he had actually died, JD Vance posted three different times on social media, you know, posting a photo of himself and Kirk, saying Kirk would answer any question and talk to everyone. So you're seeing the close ties that Kirk has with many people in the White House, many different Republican officials. We're all just reacting to this horrific news right now.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Somewhat unusual to have this announcement come from the President of the United States himself. Kate, is the press office or communications office saying anything about the fact that the commander in chief told us this as opposed to Kirk's family?
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No, and that's a great, that's a great point and question. All we know is, is what Trump has posted and, and we're seeing, you know, after he posted, then JD Vance posted. And so a lot of people are, of course, taking cues from the president and reacting to this news that you're completely correct that Trump broke on truth social himself.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Bloomberg's Kate Sullivan @ the White House. Kate, thank you as always. We just heard from the president again on social media. He was typing while we were talking. In honor of Charlie Kirk, he writes a truly great American patriot. I am ordering all American flags throughout the United States lowered to half mast until Sunday evening at 6pm our political panel is with us here in studio. Kristen Hahn, our Democratic strategist partner at ROC Solutions, joins us alongside Maura Gillespie, bluestack Strategies. It's great to see both of you, a Republican strategist. I'll start with you in this case. Maura, talk to us about the significance of what this means for the Republican movement, if not the MAGA movement, and why the White House is so deeply involved. Why did we learn this from the president?
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Democratic Strategist Kristen Hahn
Well, I think it's no surprise. The president feels pretty strongly about his loyalists, those who have been his champions. And I think that the biggest takeaway for me is to say that this isn't about being Republican. This isn't about being Democrat. This is about political violence in this country and why it's so prevalent here. That's a problem. And I don't know how we screen for it. I don't know how we you can't really necessarily see hate in someone's heart. And so we have a bigger conversation to have here because this is a man, whether you agree with him or not, or vehemently disagreed with him. This is a husband, a father, someone's son. And I just think that we have lost sight of really our humanity when it comes to our political discourse in this country, whether it was from Gabby Giffords to Steve Scalise to what happened in Minnesota to the president himself. And to watch this now and for anyone who has been on social media and those videos are playing, whether you wanted to see it or not, it is truly, I mean, I'm sitting here, I'm sure you're all feeling the same, but sick to my stomach about what this means, but also just seeing it. But we have to get a handle on it. And I don't know what that answer is, but it's not Republican or Democrat. It is us as Americans. And we have a problem here.
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Bloomberg Analyst Maura Gillespie
Kristen, just weigh in your immediate reaction.
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I mean, this obviously, I totally agree. This is not a one party problem or the other, as we've clearly seen throughout the years. And you know, I was on Capitol Hill working for the Blue Dog Coalition, of which Congresswoman Giffords was a member and, you know, you're a communications person trying to write statements. I remember just breaking down crying than trying to gather myself and pull myself together. I think an element, you know, it's hard to figure out exactly how to get at this, but an element is the rhetoric that's coming out of, you know, both sides of the aisle sometimes and toning that down, treating people like humans and you're leaders and the president starts with the president of the United States. People listen to what he's saying and, you know, I mean, and members of Congress and members of the Senate and having an honest dialogue that's civil with, you know, your next door neighbor, I think, you know, is really important. I don't think that maybe fixes everything because like you said, you can't see hate in somebody's heart. You can't necessarily tell what they're going to do. But, you know, it can definitely start there.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
You know, Maura reminds us of the Steve Scalise shooting. That was years ago. The Capitol Police shooting was what, 1999? This has been a conversation in Washington free years and whether we should provide more security for lawmakers who in many cases are dipping into allowances to find private security and protection for themselves. You worked for a former speaker in John Boehner, Maura. Does that need to happen?
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Democratic Strategist Kristen Hahn
You know, I think it's a conversation to be had about how much members make currently. You know, I know that that's not necessarily a popular conversation, but when you look at their salary, if they are, you know, in a situation where they need to get security, their salary is not really going to cover that, plus their housing here in D.C. so you think about that. That may be a conversation to have some built in funding for security needs, but I think that's Kristen's point there about talking and how we use our words referring to our political opponents as enemies. That's a problem, right? We can do better. And I think that for every member of Congress, anyone who's running for office, anyone who sits, you know, talking on politics on TV should try and do better and make a promise to try and do that, because I think that our words have impact and how we talk to one another as a Republican talking to a Democrat and be on a panel together, that makes I do think that people at home watch that and how we handle our discourse here really could make an impact at home.
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Well, and as far as the security needs go, look at the members of the January 6 committee. They started getting, they didn't have to Secret Service or capitol police security 247 until they all started getting death threats, a lot of them on both sides of the aisle. And people were going to their houses at home when they were here in Washington, D.C. and going to their kids schools. And so, you know, we afforded them the protection of the Capitol Police, who do such a wonderful job of protecting our officials. But, you know, this is all members of Congress. I think, you know, the move to give them a little bit of money to, you know, out of their, their current allotment to, to provide some of that security for themselves and their family.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Was probably the result is unfortunately fewer people wanting to run for elected office right when we're having conversations like these. Kristen Hahn and Morgan Gillespie, I thank you so much for the immediate response now as we turn to Capitol Hill. Joining us now live from the Capitol, Republican Senator Mike Rounds of South Dakota, member of the Senate Armed Services Committee. Senator, it's good to have you here. It's not what we expected that we would be talking about this evening, but can you weigh in on this, your reaction to what took place, how we got here, and whether we need to have a serious conversation about Capitol Police security for lawmakers like yourself?
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Senator Mike Rounds
Well, let me begin just by offering my condolences, my thoughts, my prayers to Charlie's family, to his spouse and to their children. This is not something that any of us on either side of any political aisle want to see happen ever. And so this is simply very, very unfortunate. And we offer our thoughts and our prayers. And you look, this is just a bad, bad message from what we would hope otherwise would have been an opportunity for peaceful discussion on specific issues, talking about our differences in a very, very normal way, a way in which people can have a discussion, having differences, having differing points of view and still remaining as friends and as colleagues. And so to see Charlie Hickerk in this particular method, I mean, this is just a terrible, terrible day for America. And once again, it is something that I think with regard to what we do here in the capital of the United States and the way that we treat one another is something that should be an example that you don't have to have violence in the middle of political discussions.
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Bloomberg Analyst Maura Gillespie
Senator Rounds, do we need to hear from the president in a call for unity to end some of this political violence? Is that what we're waiting for?
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Senator Mike Rounds
You know, I think the first thing that the president did was to offer his thoughts, his prayers, his condolences to Charlie's family. I think that's, you know, the first thing that we all want to do. And then along with that, it is an opportunity for us to once again tell the rest of America and the rest of the world that we can have different points of view and not be violent about it. And so anything that any of us can do to offer as an example the way that we should treat one another with respect, that's a positive thing. I think that's what Charlie Kirk would have wanted to have had happen. And most certainly that's something that I think we should continue to carry on, which is peacefully discuss, have your different points of view, argue it, debate it. It's healthy for America. But our Founding Fathers wanted that to be done in such a fash that we could still be one strong, unified nation, even if we have differing points of view. And there's nothing wrong with having differing points of view.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Well, I appreciate your point of view on that, Senator. We were looking at some polling from Ipsos from back in July that asked voters about political extremism and threats to our democracy. This poll with Reuters showed 27% of Americans, Americans ranked political extremism as the most important problem facing the U.S. how about you?
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Senator Mike Rounds
I can just tell you from personal experience here in Washington, we work across some of the most polarized areas in terms of ideas and ideologies. But if you talk to members of the Senate, Republican and Democrat alike, we get along with one another. We have visits with one another. We go to lunch together, we have a prayer breakfast together. We have Bible studies together. We are not enemies. We may have different points of view, but that doesn't get across very often. And so the example that we should be able to offer is one of unity in terms of making America better than what it is today. Our Founding Fathers said that they wanted to create a more perfect union. They didn't say our union was perfect to begin with. They wanted it more perfect. That's what we should be focused on here. Sometimes in the middle of our strong emotions here, we forget to finish with that particular part of the message, which is regardless of our points of view, we're Americans first and we treat each other with respect and with dignity. And here in the Capitol, in the offices that we have, I can tell you personally and that behind closed doors, Republicans and Democrats alike get along. We respect one another. We consider each other as colleagues and friends. And we would hope that across America, whether it's a coffee clotch, or whether it's a political meeting, city council meeting, or a state legislative body, that we remember that we are all Americans. And that we have a whole lot more in common than we'll ever disagree on.
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Bloomberg Anchor Joe Matthew
Senator, it's great to have you and I appreciate your candor in talking about this very sensitive issue because I've been in that rotunda and I have seen Republican members like yourself get along quite well with Democrats, and I wish more people saw that side of the Capitol. Mike Rounds of South Dakota, thank you for being with us.
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