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It is Monday, which means there's always an M and a deal or two to over and the latest one is one in the media space. Fox buying Roku at a $22 billion valuation Fox shares are lower. That tends to happen the acquired down 17% in this case. Roku, interestingly enough, is also lower down by 1%. Let's bring in Geetha Ranganathan. She is our US media analyst here at Bloomberg Intelligence. Geeta, let's start first with what Is Fox buying when it acquires Roku? What does it want from Roku here?
Keith
So what Fox wants, Scarlett, is exposure to digital media. So Fox is one of those legacy media companies that really kind of doubled down on live tv. And if you look at their revenue mix, right now, they have about 90% exposure to the linear TV ecosystem. You compare that to some of their peers, even a Paramount Skydance or a Warner Brothers Discovery, which are exposed about 50 to 55%. So Fox definitely one of the most heavily exposed. They've played it pretty safe. So they've stayed away from the really expensive streaming wars. When everybody was spending billions, tens of billions of dollars on content to just kind of get streaming subscribers, they stayed away from that. But they've always kind of been shoring up capital to make this big play into digital advertising, into digital streaming. And that's exactly what they're doing today with this Roku acquisition. It helps them build up their digital advertising business and it really helps them win the streaming war in a very uni. Unique way because Roku is a streaming aggregator. So Roku gets paid no matter which streaming service wins. And I think that's really a unique benefit here for Fox.
Paul
I have to admit, Keith, I'm surprised that the stock is down as much as it is down 16%. Why do you think that is?
Keith
So one thing, Paul, is that this is a pretty big deal. So if you just look at Fox's market cap, for instance, it's close to about 25 billion. This deal is. The equity value of the deal is about 25 billion. So definitely a really, really big. A big size deal from a size perspective. And more important, I mean, Fox has always been very, very good in terms of its balance sheet management. They've had a pristine balance sheet, very low levels of debt, have always committed to a strong capital returns program and stock buybacks. And I think people are a little bit nervous right now because they are going to be taking on quite a sizable debt load with this transaction. More than $12 billion in debt. And while they've promised to kind of main capital returns, I think the street is still a little bit nervous.
Scarlett
Is there any reason to think that regulators might have any objections to this? And I ask, thinking that it's probably not because Fox is pretty close to the Trump administration. And this isn't an administration where, you know, friends get good treatment.
Keith
Absolutely. I totally agree with you there, Scarlett. I think, you know, the Murdochs obviously have this really close relationship with the, with the president, with the current administration. The only Thing that I would raise here is there is a little element of vertical integration. So Fox obviously owns content in terms of news, in terms of live sports, access to a lot of live sports properties. And with Roku, it's really more of distribution. Right. Roku has access to 100 million global streaming households, over 50% of the US broadband households. So that really gives them that whole distribution arm. And so regulators could make a case that this becomes again, a case like Comcast, where you have the cable business and you have content. And so, you know, whether there need to be any concessions or whether, you know, regulators are going to scrutinize it a little bit more closely.
Paul
This is kind of, I would say, the coming out party, if you will, for Lachlan Murdoch a little bit here. What's the, what's the call there? What's the thought there? Is this a management team that can pull off such a big deal?
Keith
I think they can. They've been very, very measured, Paul, as you well know, in terms of, you know, acquisitions, in terms of M and A, in just terms of general strategy. But we know that they' always been itching to do a deal. You know, they've, they've, they've done small deals much more quietly and they've, they've had this very eclectic collection of different assets, but really kind of spreading their bases a little bit. So they went out and they got all of these, you know, stakes and a lot of sports betting assets. Again, kind of identifying all the growth, you know, pockets, if you will. And so I think, you know, this deal, obviously they've, it's a huge deal. They've considered it over a long period of time and I think they feel like this, you know, with, with the, with the purchase of Roku, obviously they do get to supercharge their own advertising business pretty substantially. But then again, you know, they also get economics from any streaming platform. Right. Because Roku gets paid. They're pretty much like an Apple store. So they get that 30, 35% cut no matter which streaming service you subscribe to. So I think that, you know, Fox was obviously trying to get a part of those economics as well.
Scarlett
Is there any reason to think that someone else might come in with a higher bid? Could this result in any kind of bidding war?
Keith
So we think. So we just ran some numbers, Scarlett, and we think that, you know, the Roku, I mean, the number is actually a little bit underwhelming. So, yes, Fox is paying about a 35% premium to where Roku was trading prior to all of this M and A news. But if you just compare some of the Roku profitability numbers. So just this quarter or just a few months ago, they started disclosing their advertising revenue as well as their subscription revenue. And what was more interesting than the breakout of the revenue itself was the gross margin. So you look at advertising revenue, for instance, it's a 60% gross margin business, which is really, really a profitable business stream, a profitable revenue stream. And then you kind of apply some of the multiples that peers are trading at, I mean whether it's a Google or a Meta or even a Netflix and Spotify on the subscription side. And we think it's actually slightly undervalued. So maybe almost 30% undervalued to some of where those peers are trad. That's what the market is slightly disappointed about today, both the price as well as the fact that this was not 100% cash deal. So only 60% of it is cash. The remaining 40% is being paid by Fox stock. Classy stock.
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It's Monday. Means we get some merger Monday stuff happening. We had a little bit M and A in the tech space today. Salesforce, the Dubai AI customer service firm, fin for $3.6 billion. What's going on here in the world of technology? Anuragrana, Bloomberg Intelligence senior technology analyst joins us here. Anurag Salesforce buying Fin. First, tell us what Fin is and why is Salesforce buying it?
Anurag
Yeah, we were actually lucky. Just a few months ago we had the founder of Fin on our podcast and we learned a lot from him actually. This is really, you know, you could see with AI how capitalism shows up. This was an AI native firm which came up with agents. So think about it this way. You want to go to a chatbot, but the chatbot is not tied to a particular software package. This is out of a box chatbot. It would work on any program that's behind the curve. So if you go to, let's say, a healthcare firm and, and you're. You're trying to solve some issues or customer service issues and these guys would help you and. And that's what they're buying. I think it's a very smart move on Salesforce's part.
Scarlett
I believe Salesforce has its own AI agent tool, Agent Force. Is this, does this perhaps suggest that Agent Force isn't developing or progressing the way that. Or scaling the way that Salesforce wants it to.
Anurag
I think you're absolutely right. I think this is a signal that maybe Agent Force is only made for the software package that's behind it, which is Salesforce's package. This one is a generic chatbot that can go across the board. So I think that's something that people would need because they're only not looking at the data that resides in Salesforce, but other areas as well. And frankly speaking, these guys have done a phenomenal job of coming up with their own models, own technology that sits on top of some of these systems of record. I think it's also a defensive move by Salesforce because one thing is if people are Buying an out of a box agent from fin or Intercom was it called before. Then down the road you can actually start storing data in their database, you know and then the system of engagement becomes a system of record. And that's not a good thing for Salesforce because that's really their bread and butter. So I think there is a little bit of defensive move as well. But you're absolutely right. I think this would help their agent for practices spread.
Paul
So stock of Salesforce is up just under 1% today but it is down almost 37% year to date on a ROG Salesforce is. And one of the challenges as you've mentioned to us before, is some of these software companies, software as a service companies, they just got to show that they can compete against AI or compete in a world of AI. Is this acquisition one way for Salesforce to say hey we're serious about, you know, integrating AI into our products and offerings?
Anurag
No, I as definitely that's the case. So I'll tell you another company that is in that same rep called Sierra. This is from the co founder of. I mean this company was founded by a guy by the name of Brett Taylor who is the chairman of OpenAI who used to be a co CEO of Salesforce and he was also the chairman of Twitter. In the last one and a half, two years that company has just taken off. I think the valuation is close to $20 billion and it does the same thing out of a box white label agents that can then interact on the behalf so it becoming the front office or the front face of some of these apps. And I think with this acquisition Salesforce can defend itself from somebody like Sierra who can eventually come out and start taking market share for them. So Salesforce I think is a good deal for them that they are more aggressive right at the front of any AI and they're not just dependent on their own product agent force.
Scarlett
So honor I'm just kind of looking ahead. Do you expect other enterprise software companies like a Salesforce to to come out and make similar acquisitions? If this is defensive for Salesforce, what does it do to other companies, you know, in its field of vision?
Anurag
Yeah. So this wasn't just in the realm of customer service. We call this a CX agent and there are like three private companies here, Sierra, as I said, 20 billion DOL dollars. That's too big for to be honest, anybody to buy frankly from this point because Salesforce is the biggest when it comes to customer service right now. There is another company called Decagon which is I believe the last valuation was somewhere around 8 billion. But the question is who's going to actually buy them? Because the natural buyer would have been Salesforce and the third one was Intercom in that framework.
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I want to focus on Anthropic here, Paul, because there's some big news about how the company was ordered to bar access, foreign access to its best AI models. Ordered by the government, in fact.
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Yeah, that doesn't seem like a good development for them. So if you think about going public.
Scarlett
Exactly. So let's bring in Mandeep Singh, he's our global tech research head here at Bloomberg Intelligence. And Mandeep, just give us some context for this latest news. Anthropic, it seems like run into situations where the US Government keeps getting involved in figuring out or determining who has access to its AI models.
Mandeep Singh
Yeah, I mean, look, they were labeled as supply chain risks before, and now this happened after they commercially released their metals model. And look, I think the concerns are around the ability to jailbreak the model, which everyone talks about as having capabilities that go well beyond the frontier models that we have seen, you know, around coding agents or image generation and those type of things. But the Mythos model specifically has a lot to offer in terms of finding vulnerabilities, which is why all the the cybersecurity companies were involved in testing the model under Project Glasswing. And in this case, I think Anthropic just needs to work closely with the US Government, which clearly is keen to regulate Anthropic and probably other frontier models. And I think they're walking a very fine line in terms of really being branded as supply chain risk first and then releasing a model without really getting approvals from the government.
Paul
Mandeep, you're going to have to help me out with this one. What does it mean to jailbreak a model?
Mandeep Singh
Well, so in the past, if you look at, you know, something like a Microsoft operating system, there is always, you know, something that can basically give you access to functionality that only Microsoft knows or, you know, somebody who is really good at coding can figure out how to leverage the kernels or things that are very complex in terms of how to access the code, but can be done. In this case, the way Anthropic released that commercial version is they put guardrails around the Methos model. Which is very capable. Like I said, when they release it commercially, they put the guardrails and said nobody can access that type of functionality because we have put guardrails. Well, guess what, what is guardrails? It is a piece of code or some checks and balances that somebody sophisticated may be able to say, okay, this is the prompt by which I can bypass this guardrail that has been put in place. And so something along those lines is what seems to have happened here.
Scarlett
Mandy, what does this mean for Anthropics plans to list? Does it affect the timing? Does it make a roadshow more difficult?
Mandeep Singh
I mean look, this is a company that has grown their annual recurring revenue by 5x this year, almost $50 billion revenue run rate. So lots to offer in terms of top line growth. I would argue their margin structure is better than SpaceX or OpenAI for that matter. It's just that they seem to be going on the wrong side of the government in terms of making sure they work with the government. They seem to be really taking them on in a lot of ways. And I think overall they don't seem to have a very good message in terms of the global deployment of these models. And they keep talking about how the white collar jobs losses will be huge and I just feel the messaging needs to improve before they do the roadshow. So that that could certainly help you.
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Here's an interesting industry, the technology industry that's certainly bought back stock. Now they're adding stock in the marketplace.
Scarlett
Is that an Alphabet?
Paul
Right, an Alphabet with that massive equity offering, the biggest equity offering there just it's really a different market dynamic. Let's see how it's playing out with Carmen Reinhe, deputy team leader for U.S. equities Bloomberg News. She joins us live here in our studio. So Carmen, what are you and your team thinking about here is about all this new equity issuance coming into the marketplace.
Carmen Reinhe
Yeah, well, it was a huge thing kind of coming into the ipo. Some people were worried Friday that, you know, there would be issues sort of with the market's internal plumbing and that also that the there might not be enough demand to really absorb an IPO of this size. And it was a record listing. And obviously the first day of SpaceX trading really showed that that was not the case. Right. The market, you know, digested it really well. Everything sort of went off mostly without a hitch and things were pretty good. So that bodes well for some of the other equity listings kind of coming down the pipe. And these other companies like you were just talking about Alphabet, but as long also Meta and Oracle that are listing shares to, you know, raise money to build data centers and spend more on AI. So it does sort of represent a big, big shift. We've seen companies really buying back their stock to the tune of, you know, $12 trillion, really shrinking the total market. And so now we're seeing these companies, some of the same companies, really adding them back.
Scarlett
So I'm glad you bring that up, the former dynamic, because that was seen as supporting share prices as well. This idea that they were taking shares off the market and reducing the share count. And now that you have IPOs coming to list and you have the Alphabets, the Metas, the Oracles of the world selling more shares, does that mean that you no longer have that support, support for share prices and the market is more at risk of falling?
Carmen Reinhe
I think that's a big concern. Right. Because when you're adding stock back, it's dilutive. Right. And it's not that level of support that shareholders have been getting. So it'll be interesting to see how these companies are then maybe returning value to shareholders. I think they would argue that the spending that they need to do is going to be, you know, great for their businesses. AI is going to change things and that should elevate accretive to earnings. Exactly. So I think that's the argument going forward and we'll see if investors can look at that positively or negatively as sort of those earnings continue to roll in.
Paul
I think all this new issuance, you know, it's. On the one hand it's good because public investors get a chance to invest in these great companies. On the other side, it's all concentrated into one industry and it's not helping out with that broadening out of the market performance. But that's where the growth is. That's where the earnings are. Presumably, that's where the investment's going. And I guess, I mean, is there a concern there, Karen, about. Yeah, they're all kind of AI levered.
Carmen Reinhe
Well, look, looking at concentration risk, I saw a stat this morning. If you're sort of looking at the entire market and including maybe like media and some of the TMT companies, technology is 50% of the market. That's a huge Concentration of, you know, sort of all resting on the, the future of this, of AI. Right. Obviously people are really bullish on it. But you know, things can be bumpy. We just don't know how it's actually going to turn out. So concentration risk is definitely an issue. We're also considering it and watching it on an index level. You know, it's just probably a matter of weeks until Space X is added to the NASDAQ 100. That's going to change things. And then, you know, space or, sorry, the s and P500 didn't change their rules to allow it, you know, faster entry. But it's still, you know, probably a couple of years. It's not very long term that it could be also added to the S&P 500. And then you just sort of bump up concentration risk. I mean, today its valuation is more than two, two and a half. Not two and a half, about two trillion. A little more than that. It's already the top six company in the market.
Scarlett
Just like that. Carmen. Retail investors play a big role here and they're not seemingly afraid of concentration risk. They're kind of diving headlong into it. Especially if you look at, you know, the popularity of single stock leverage ETFs as well. How much of this is really, you know, retail investors are responding and generating a lot of the demand for all this equity.
Carmen Reinhe
I mean, that's definitely a huge component. I think it was one of the biggest days for retail buying in the market for. I'm reading the data correctly.
Scarlett
On Friday.
Carmen Reinhe
On Friday, yes. And I mean we, we know that there are so many like Musk evangelists. And the thing that I think is most interesting there is, if you think of that cohort, they're really happy to buy and hold. They're very long term investors. Where I think sometimes retail is sort of thought of as much more maybe like in and out of stocks or adding more volatility. So that, that is really interesting. It's definitely a dynamic we're going to watch going forward. On the flip side though, there was a lot of institutional investment here and that's really the bulk of sort of like the market support.
Paul
30 seconds. Do we have any sense of timing for anthropic or open air? Is that the fall?
Carmen Reinhe
I guess they're definitely expected by the end of the year and we'll see. I mean it will be really interesting to see how fast they might want to get out in front of this market and kind of. Yeah.
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Episode: Fox to Buy Roku at $22 Billion Value in Streaming Video Push
Date: June 15, 2026
Hosts: Paul Sweeney and Scarlet Fu
Analysts/Guests: Geetha Ranganathan, Anurag Rana, Mandeep Singh, Carmen Reinhe
This episode focuses on major recent developments across media, technology, and AI sectors, leading with Fox’s landmark $22 billion purchase of Roku. The hosts and a roundtable of Bloomberg Intelligence analysts break down the rationale, implications, and market reaction to Fox’s move, as well as examining Salesforce’s AI-driven acquisition, government regulation around AI models, and the impact of mega-cap tech companies issuing new stock amid an AI-fueled market boom.
Fox’s Motivation for Acquiring Roku
Market Reaction and Debt Concerns
Regulatory Risks
Lachlan Murdoch’s ‘Coming Out Party’
Valuation and Deal Structure
“Roku gets paid no matter which streaming service wins.”
— Geetha Ranganathan (03:40)
“It’s also a defensive move by Salesforce…down the road you can actually start storing data in their database, and then the system of engagement becomes a system of record. And that’s not a good thing for Salesforce.”
— Anurag Rana (12:23)
Background
The U.S. government ordered Anthropic to prevent foreign access to its most advanced “Mythos” AI models, days after their commercial release (18:46).
Reason for Scrutiny
“Their margin structure is better than SpaceX or OpenAI…It’s just that they seem to be going on the wrong side of the government.”
— Mandeep Singh (22:00)
“It’s just probably a matter of weeks until SpaceX is added to the NASDAQ 100. That’s going to change things. ... Its valuation is more than two trillion. ... It’s already the top six company in the market.”
— Carmen Reinhe (28:52)
This episode connects the dots between seismic M&A activity, the evolving tech and AI landscape, and the impact on capital markets. Fox’s Roku deal underscores traditional media’s scramble to stay relevant; Salesforce’s AI investments signal the high stakes of platform wars; Anthropic’s government scrutiny highlights regulatory growing pains for cutting-edge AI; and public markets are reshaped by a new era of capital-raising and retail investing enthusiasm driven by AI optimism.